Styro Wars: Styrofoam Glue Tests
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Pitted glues to see which one is the best glue for styrofoam (pink or blue). Contenders were Loctite PL300 Foamboard Glue, Super 77 Spray Adhesive, Glidden Gripper, Foam Fusion, Gorilla Glue, Great Stuff and StyroGoo. They were tested with the surface scratched/ unscratched and at 24/48 hours. Watch to see the surprise winner. By the way - SimplyJenn is the member at HF that gave me the heads up on the surprise winner :)
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youtube is filled with worthless videos and this ain't one of them! Love it! not trying to sell a product just what works the best!
thanks
+Damian DeLapp You are so right. It's frustrating to find a video that just tells you straight up - what works. That's what forced me to make this video in the first place. Prior, there wasn't any help in finding a better glue and the project I made (Hellhound) became frustrating using the crappy glue (foamboard caulk) I had picked.
Thanks...the video answered my question and the demo was so convincing that I don't feel the need to look at any other video's on the subject. Thanks again.
+Gary Schmaltz Awww, that's a wonderful thing to say. Thank you :)
Good to know someone is out there testing stuff and letting us know what works.
Your vids are very good.
I recently came across this video while researching foam adhesion. I needed something that would uniformly glue two pink EPS surfaces together for CNC machining. I can personally attest to the holding power of Glidden Gripper. My two pieces of foam did separate after just 24 hours.....but I pressed them back together and let them sit for an additional 2 days, and now I physically cannot separate them, the foam itself actually tears/shears off before the glue joint gives out (which it still hasn't after the extra 2 days of drying time) YAAAAAAAAY!!!! :)
+Matthew Neesley That's awesome and yes - doesn't it surprise you how it tears itself apart - all from paint primer?! I was stunned myself - there had to be something I was missing. Too cheap, easy to get and easy to use.
Thank you, this was very helpful now I know what to try and find for making custom reptile hides.
Glad it was helpful.
THANK YOU! There is a special heaven for people who do useful product demos. I've been trying to figure out how to glue pool noodles to a styro ball for a craft project and it has been driving me nuts.
You are welcome and I hope it works great for you. Something to watch out for though. Pool noodles are a different type of foam than pink/blue foam and I didn't test that bond. Consider using Gorilla Glue for that.
Glad it could help :) In regards to filling imperfections there are a few ways but none is a perfect fit. My best one is to use wood filler. For bigger gaps I've used pink snow and caulk.
Thank you for this. I have a project from the past , I can NOW repair with the Glidden Gripper. And future projects will be done with it as well.... I Will be passing this info on, to model railroaders who use this stuff.
That's wonderful and glad this can help :)
You did a great job with your video and your tests were spot on. On a side note, I build signs and use a lot of poly. I paint my white (wood) posts with Kilz 2 Latex Primer. I noticed when I stored the posts, even some that had returned from the field, if I let them have full length contact against each other, I would need a pry-bar to pull them apart.These were only leaning, not stacked. I was stunned at the force needed to separate them. I decided to try the Kilz on the poly. I painted both surfaces and put them together at various stages of drying and found that if I let it dry to the touch and put them together under pressure for a few hours, it was much the same as your Gripper test. Kilz is about $70.00 for a 5 gallon bucket. I just took a roller to put it on and under fair conditions, it would be 15-20 minutes until glue-up. I would love to see you do a video test on that. It works for my purpose but I don't have time or space for that kind of testing. Thank you. I love your video and I'm a new subscriber.
I've been wondering if I let it tack up some if it would cure faster. Thank you so much for that insight. I haven't been making tombstones lately so not sure when I can get this tested out to be sure. But, with what I've done so far I can only think that would be an even better way of gluing poly together. Thank you and thanks for subscribing :)
Scaryladyvideos .... P.S. I used to do something similar with Titebond III Waterproof wood glue. I would cut it, 50/50 with water, then spray it with one of the cheap Harbor Freight guns. Same method, let it dry to touch, then glue-up. It worked well but was a lot more work, especially including clean-up. Both work pretty well to use as a shell, too.
I was looking at wood glue but thought that it would dry too hard and be tough to carve through. Thinning it is a great idea.
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So glad I could help. I am very sorry for the loss of your sister. She sounded like a fantastic person and thank you for sharing that I brightened her day sometimes. It's funny that Halloween is supposed to be a 'scary' holiday but in reality it is a 'joyful' one :)
Outstanding job. Thanks for taking the time to share your testing. You saved me a bunch of time and aggravation. Never heard of that Glidden product before. Well done.
Thank you and glad to hear it will save you a bunch of frustration. That's my main goal when making the tutorials. We have precious time to work on props and can't be wasted on things like crappy glue.
Thanks for doing that test, you helped me out a lot and I appreciate your efforts
Very pleased that it was helpful :)
Thank you for your very informative and time saving video! I am embarking on a large set design and will now be including Glidden Gripper into my bonding tool set.
Glad this could help. Let me know how it went for you :) I have noticed that the larger the surface to be glued - the longer time it needs to dry. It dries fast on the edges and then works its way in so if you aren't carving into it then you can start working on it earlier.
So glad you made this! I started worrying yesterday trying to glue the Lowes insulation boards together when I saw them melting after using spray adhesive. I tried more tests with some other sealants and laquers (including clear acrylic) and kept watching the stuff dissolve. This was perfect help to stop me from needing to experiment with every glue in the store!
Thanks so much for this! This is one of the reasons I love the intrawebs. I was struggling with trying to use white glue to bind large pieces of styrofoam to make a mask, so I thought I might search for better products. To find the exact kind of side by side comparison that I needed to make an informed decision by someone who appears to be doing the exact same type of styrofoam sculpture was extraordinarily helpful.
+TRUEstories PRODUCTIONS So glad this helped you. I made this because I was in the same boat as you :)
I'm finding it's a delicate balance of how much Gripper to apply and whether to apply it to both sides or not. Still working that out. I'm leaning towards both sides. If you make the application too thin then there isn't enough to grip the other side. If you apply too much - takes forever to dry. I use a paint brush to apply it. I don't know how it would work for EPS foam - haven't tested it. Gripper itself is very light - think of it as paint.
Just tested it out. Carving with the SureForm Shaver (rasp) - not at all :) Also cut a chunk off with the Hot Knife and cut right through. It does leave a bit of a ridge that you can knock back down with the rasp. Guessing it's because of different boiling points. Looks to me like the Glidden 'cooks up' faster then the styro itself. Still - not a problem. Noticed the same result when using the Hot Wire knife on the foamboard glue. You just have to knock it back down.
Fantastic comparison. This is the best new I heard and just in time for the build this year....Glidden Gripper ...Hmnnn.... THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!
Thanks.
Note that Gorilla Clue is just a low foaming polyurethane version of other polyurethane foams such as Great Stuff. I suspected that these might work, but did not know until I saw your tests. The Glidden Gripper is a great outside the box solution.
Nice work!
I was wondering that. Thanks for the info.
Totally agree. Each glue has a learning curve to make it perform juuust right. Lemme know how the Glidden Gripper works out for you. I've learned that the longer the drying time you give it (at LEAST 48 hrs) the better it sticks.
Thank you :)
I think so but not 100% sure. I used the Gripper on the faux wooden caskets (see that video) and the underside of them was unpainted Gripper and they looked great after the season but it wasn't used to glue anything - just a protective coat. All my tombstones have Drylok applied after the gluing.
Fantastic, I am about to shape my first surfboard out of EPS and this helped so much! you saved me all the time and testing I'd have to do first hand!! thank you again!
+Mickey Ugolini So glad this will save you some time. Remember - the bigger the surface area - the longer you'll need to allow it to dry all the way through. I'd suggest for a big surface area like a surf board - I'd scuff up the surface a bit to give it a little help.
Glad it was helpful. The search for a good foam glue has always frustrated me before.
Thanks for the video! Very well done! Best of luck!
Thank you :)
Thank you and yes - tried gluing a little thing one time and that worked pretty good :)
I took your winner, Glidden Gripper, and experimented with it a bit. I found that if you treat it like contact cement (apply thin layer to both surfaces and allow to tack up for ~5min, then bond) you can get a decent initial hold that will allow you to work on the piece while the "glue" continues to dry over 24hrs. At $10/qt this is some very cheap glue. Thanks so much for this well thought out and informative video. Hard to find these days.
Wow - well thank you for your tip. That tacking up should help a lot on future projects :)
Scaryladyvideos For those that are willing to go 'online' for a solution, you must try 3M 78 Spray Adhesive. It beats even the Glidden Gripper. 3M 78 is made for gluing foam sheet. Spray on both surfaces, wait 1 minute, and bond. It has incredible strength the moment the two halves make contact. I have not found 78 anywhere locally. I would love to hear someone say otherwise.
Wow, that stuff sounds amazing and the description says the spray doesn't eat the foam. If I ever see some on the shelf I'll grab a can and try it out. Thanks
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I found the 3M 78 @ my local Menards for ~$8.
So glad you found the right glue. I was with you on the frustration of building a prop and the damn glue becomes it's own challenge. You are like, "I don't have time for this!"
Thank you! Thank you! I'm building some horse puppets (life size) for a show, and was really concerned about the cost and effectiveness of foam adhesives. I'm definitely going with Glidden Gripper. It reminded me of a director who taught us to make large foam drops by seaming together the 4'x8' panels with a strip of muslin brushed down with paint. When the paint dried, those drops hung from the rigging and never separated at the seams. He called it "dutching" but I've never seen a reference to it online.
Joan Verdegan i bet his technique worked wonderful. Am familiar with 'dutching' in regards to wood repair. That's a good tip to use if you don't have to carve into it. The key I've learned with my technique is allow more time to dry as the span of the square footage you are gluing increases.
Yeah, it's advertised as a paint primer. I couldn't believe it when a fellow haunter told me they used it as glue. To say I was skeptical was an understatement. In the time since I've heard that the Glidden reps show the Home Depot employees how you can also use it to glue two wood 2x4's together. Wow!
Thank you so much for the helpful video! Question on the Glidden Gripper - Did you just stick it while it was fully wet, just rolled/brushed? Or did you give it X amount of time to tack up, or anything similar? I'm trying to get a good adhesive on large foam board to metal (both completely non-porous) and everything we've tried has failed and remained wet because there's no air exposure to the middle of the piece (up to 5 ' x 4'). Thanks!
I agree, I have been using Glidden Gripper for years! It's the shizzle! :)
It was such a happy surprise for me :)
Thank You FOR A "Great-Unbiased- Honest" comparison of all the competition out there for foam board. I must admit I never heard of Glidden Gripper but I'm on my way NOW to Home Depot to buy some. I ship a lot of breakable items and you just made each "DAY" for me a little "Easier" Thanks to unselfish Smart people like you who know how to make a UA-cam video to help all of us out here !!!
Wow, thank you so much for that nice comment. Very much appreciated :) :) :)
Excellent info! Thank you so so much for taking the time to do this test, not to mention filming and uploading it!
+RatSawGod My pleasure :)
Fun to watch, clearly demonstrated and very informative! Thanks for doing this!
Thank you :)
Have been wanting to run a similar test for a long time. You saved me a lot of work! Great info and thanks a lot!
Thank you so much for giving me the answers I needed! I need to stick my foam insulation together on my bus conversion. No squeaky floors! Thank you!
Glad to help!
Ah, bummer! Didn't think of testing the white styro. Thanks so much for letting me know.
I bought some Glidden Gripper. I'm hoping for some goodness in 48 hours. ..... good video. Very lean and informative.
Oh please let me know how it goes for you!
Thank you so much for this video! I have a very large project, a whole home theatre to look like the inside of the Hoth Rebel base. This will save me tons of headache and $$$ too!
Oh, does that sound cool! A couple more tips if you decide to use the Glidden Gripper. Try to keep an even layer of it. Not too thick (will take forever to dry) and not too thin (will dry before you sandwich it together).
Thank You I love you for this ! you have solved a major dilemma for me if you were here i would give you the biggest hug !!!!!!
+Charles Spencer Awww, love hugs and glad to help :)
I have to defend 3M #77 spray. I have used it for years on foam. When correctly applied it makes permanent bond. Yes, the Acetone formula since 2002 does dissolve the board a bit, if used incorrectly. But this should not concern you since you will never see the bonded surfaces. It is by far the easiest product to use. But do not use on surfaces that will show.
How to:
The trick to using #77 is to apply it in light coats from a distance. You need 12-16" from the nozzle (to allow time for the acetone to evaporate), before it cones into contact with the foam. Spray a light coat, Wait 10 minutes and then spray a second coat. Do this for both surfaces. , Wait about 6-10 (even up to 15 minutes) more minutes before bonding the surfaces. the longer you wait the stronger the bond.
Now this seems like a lot of waiting and we all want instant gratification. Well the gratification is than in 90-120 minutes you have a permanent bond that can be handled It is fully cured in 48 hours depending on temperature and humidity. The less humidity the better.
It takes a little practice but it can be done.
Will not gum it cutting tools either.
So it you need a spray . #77 still works.
3M also makes a #78 Spray just for Styrofoam too.
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I'll try this. Thanks for the tip.
I tried the #77 spray, and yes, it does work... kind of. I found the holding power to be minimal.
This was a great test! I always wanted to know the most economical strongest glue to go with when it comes to gluing tombstones and this video helped so much. Thanks for taking the time to do this. :)
Tara, I LOVEYOU Dearly. I have been searching to glues that would work on foam board to make RC planes. I tried some of your results and I just started to cry. THANX THANX THANX.
PS. I love your videos on the tombstones
I tried the Great Stuff and Glidden and no problem. With a hot knife the Glidden leaves a bit of a ridge which is easily knocked down with a shaver. No Hot knife test on the GS or GG yet. Haven't tried the Gorilla Gluein a shaving test but another commenter said it's difficult to sand so I'm thinking it could be a bit tough to carve as well. I'll try to get a bit to test later on.
PVC too? Very cool. And I'll be sure to wash my hands after using it. I wonder if they shouldn't advertise it more as an adhesive. It sure the heck surprised me.
LOL... you have a great laugh and smile! Love your information and humor!
Aww, thanks :)
I've cut into the Glidden and it does cut nice and smooth. But, it does leave a bit of a ridge. I guess it's because if the Glidden is still a little wet then the boiling temperature is higher if you are using a Hot Knife to cut it.
Thank you! I'm building a Stand up paddle board and I had second thoughts about my glue so I went to UA-cam. So glad I did. I subscribed.
Glad to help and thanks :)
Yes, I think I'm gonna give the Elmer's a test next time I'm working with foam. I didn't know that GS and GG glue was the same thing. That kind of makes sense because the GG foams up. huh. Thanks for the suggestions :)
Thank you so much and please let me know how it goes. For larger projects the more time (days) you give it to dry - the better.
The PL300 works great...if you brace whatever you're doing for like 10 days. I used 30 tubes of it on my basement - had to thoroughly brace each sheet of polyisocyanurate for over a week, but I was patient and got it done. It's super solid. If I was doing a job for someone else, they would have fired me.
Ha, ha... Yep, been there :)
Hi, great video, I use the glidden gripper primer to put broken Styrofoam gliders back together, I also use it to bond Styrofoam to wood.
Great to hear it is working for you.
l used Gripper,it holds very well. I coated both surfaces. The hot wire didn't like the seams. I am very pleased with the results. Your vid was very helpful. I would have been really upset to have a glue not work. Thanks so much. I am making a large Japanese lantern. 30 inches tall.
+DENNIS KOWSKIE Glad it worked for you. In regards to the hot wire - I've thought that it's because the hot wire basically is boiling the foam and foam and Gripper have two different boiling points so a ridge is left behind. It's not a huge ridge but it is something you have to sand or fill if you need it seamless. But, I've found this issue with all glues and Gripper leaves a pretty small ridge compared to most other glues. Also, I use a blade-type hot wire - not a thin wire so it's not a big resistance when I hit the glued areas.
I use the Glidden Gripper for also. I have it tinted the light blue of the Lowes foam board, to get consistant color when I paint, Thin with water, apply with small brush, Clamp with HF clamps and Homedepot paint sticks.
That's such a good idea to tint the paint to help it disappear. Thanks!
Thanks, very useful test. I have had good results by painting the flat foam surfaces beforehand to prevent solvents from dissolving the foam, and the 3M blue contact adhesive is usually very good, though spendy.
I had never heard of that glue but it sounds like a great glue for foam.
I wouldn't think so. It's labled interior/exterior. I still always finish my projects with either Drylok or exterior latex paint.
Thank you very much. Im learning to fly a slightly expensive full styrofoam airplane and I crashed it the first time out! Cracked the wing. I guess i will be grabbing some glidden gripper!
Glad this to help you repair it. Let me know how it goes :)
You're welcome and glad to do it. Wish I had done all this years ago though.
Thank you so much! Wholly crap - you cannot find this information anywhere on the internet. Everyone has a different answer and I was just about to just throw my hands up and use Super 77 because I saw so many suggestions for it. I actually have Gripper on hand, too! (It happens to be the best primer ever made.) So Yay! I don't have to run to the store - again! :D Thanks again!
this is EXACTLY what I needed; you rock.
Terrific. Glad it could help :)
I've never heard of Best Test Paper Cement - must get my hands on it. Thanks so much for your recommendations. They are going to help a lot and save a lot of time!
Used like crack....cracked me up! Thank you so much for doing this...so good to know. You know everyone looks to the master to find out what kind of glue she uses!!! Love your videos.
thanks for the info, I just glued my first 2 tombstones together using liquid nails, hopefully as it eats the backside of the foam that is sandwiched together hopefully it will also sort of fuse it together forever. Good tips, thanks again. Love your videos.
Thank you so much for doing this comparison. I was hoping something I already had on hand would work and don't really have the time to test all my adhesives to make sure they don't melt the foam and stick well. I have Gorilla Glue and will use it to splice together some foam insulated faucet covers to make them larger in order to cover my faucets and their attached Y fittings. There won't be much strain on them so I think it will work well.
You are welcome and you'll like the absolute grip that the Gorilla Glue will give you. it's an amazing glue.
This is incredibly useful! I'm building a custom hard case for a musical instrument I invented. Will be following your tips!
Glad to help and sounds like a fascinating project.
Other glues: I tried low voc (green container) Weldbond contact cement yesterday and it does NOT work well. I also tried original Weldbond contact cement on both white and pink foam and it ate through it! I just tried Best Test Paper Cement and it worked really well! Super 77 works ok if you use it on 2 sides. In other posts I have seen recommendations for Loctite® PL 300® VOC Foamboard Adhesive (used with caulking gun) and 3M™ Fastbond™ Contact Adhesive 30-NF Neutral (water-based).
Thank you for the informative video - this answered my questions on what to use for my foam prop that keeps falling apart (used hot glue - which held, but only temporarily).
You are very welcome :)
This is brilliant. Thank you very much for all the work. I am off to buy a can of glidden gripper!
I would think so but please do a test first. What I used is the Glidden Gripper that is considered a paint primer. It says it's outdoor/indoor use. White and green label and I got it at Home Depot.
3M 78 is specifically made for polystyrene foam. 70 and 90 will melt it. Great video!
Oooh, a new glue to try. I've always thought a spray glue would be the easiest. Thanks!
Thank you for your time in making this! This is really good stuff
Thank you and always thrilled that this helps :)
I've used Liquis nails a few times and it also never seems to dry. Plus, it actually eats away the foam over time.
Not sure if this question was to betternyou but I'll throw a suggestion or two your way. Glidden Gripper is a strong primer paint. You may want to check out your hardware store to see if they carry something similar. Also look for foamboard glues in the caulk section. Finally see if they a spray foam can like the Great Stuff we have here. Hope that helps :)
I saw this video years ago, made an archway and 2 years later it's still holding up strong. Though now im having to use PPG gripper but it still is economically the best for bigger projects.
That's great to hear that you are finding the PPG Gripper to work as well as the old Glidden Gripper. Also wonderful to hear your archway is holding up great. Thanks for updating me :)
i used gorillia glue last Halloween for my foam boarded up windows, super strong bond but it expands alot and that created some issues for me. I will try the Gripper this year, thanks for the tip!
Outstanding video! I'm in the process of building a model railroad and tried liquid nails only to find out it ate into the styrene a bit! I'm definitely going with the Gripper this time after watching your video. Very helpful and thank you for your time and effort you dedicated to this experiment.
+Joe Campbell Glad it could help. Yeah - that Liquid Nails surprised me too once. Grrr...
Thank you for all your time and for this video...I was thinking what you said...gonna give the gg for glass a try. Just needed someone to kinda brain storm with on this...and there you were..thank you fellow creative!!
My pleasure and love to do this sort of thing. Brainstorm with me anytime :)
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Oh yeah - great point about the sanding problems. That would suck.
A nice study, well performed, many thanks!
Thank you!
I was so nervous the entire time the knife would slip and cut your hand! D:
Good video!
***** heh. Thanks but it was just a 5-in-1 tool. Not sharp - more like a wedge :)
PVA glues, which includes wood glue, need air to dry. By spreading out the glue you prohibit air access to the glue. Instead of spreading it like peanut butter put many short strips of glue. On a piece of 4" x 4" for eg. you might put 6 or 9 little one inch strips. Works like a charm and dries much faster. Wood glue is stronger than wood. A few thin strips are more than enough to hold XPS or anything else together and
it's far cheaper than Gorilla glue and a little goes a long, long way.
That makes total sense! I'm going to do that. Thank you for sharing this critical information.
Excellent work! Thanks so much for your contribution to fellow styrofoam prop fans.
You are so welcome and Happy New Year!
I have not tried gluing white foam as yet. I was wondering how it would do myself.
You're welcome. Kind of figured people would get bored looking at every single gluing result - I know I was...
Thanks for making this! Just picked up some of that purple stuff and I was planning on using rubber cement.
Great Video. Saved me a bunch of time and money. Thanks!!
Awesome to hear! Thanks
Hey back. Not sure about the effect of the plastic covering being dissolved by the Great Stuff but that makes sense. I've seen that plastic protective cover on 1/2 and 3/4" foamular. You do pull that protective cover off. I usually use 1 1/2 and 2" thick foamular and it doesn't come with the protective plastic cover so not an issue. Hope that helps :)
Awesome, i'm right in the middle of doing the review on HWFF foam glue. Thought of doing a comparison of other glues, but now i don't have to. You already did it, and you probably did it better then i ever could. Lol
Thank you.
Because I have used it in the past and have discovered that over time the Liquid Nails actually dissolves some of the foam. Reading further about it I have discovered that it isn't a good glue for Styrofoam for that exact reason UGH! I liked it too because it's easy to get.
thank you:)
one of the best technical trainings
I have seen seen by the way have used to gripper for years to create a bondable or paintable surface in sculpture but never dawned on me to use it as the adhesive genius you are awesome thanks....
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Thank you for the nice comment. I was also surprised as you that it can glue as well as it primes.
thanks for the grunt work! I'll never trust the caulking for large surface areas again!
Great video very informative I'm going to be building a a camper in the back of my pickup truck and I heard of the gripper stuff they actually take they take a fiberglass screening in the use that with that gripper stuff that you have to make some very strong structures
That's interesting that they combine the Gripper with fiberglass. I bet it gets super strong.
Fantastic video, I was looking for a 10 x 15 sheet of foam board for the bottom of my Endless Fastlane Pool but wasn't able to find anything larger than 4 x 8. I never thought I'd find a reliable glue, much less a "how to video" on what would work to attach two
4 x 8 together, lengthwise. Still not sure how it will work on 1" board, not a lot of surface to grab on to but you gave me hope, thank you :)
Oh please let me know how it goes! bet you are sweating some bullets here too and now I am :) Best of success to you.
This was super helpful! Thank you!
Glad to help :)
It's not glue, it's just the good ol' expanding spray foam insulation Great Stuff. You can get it practically anywhere: from hardware stores to Wal Mart/Fred Meyer.
Thank you so very much! After trying the PL300 Foamboard adhesive from Home Depot (which is what they recommended) and which reacted the same way as in your video, I was having the same problems getting styrofoam to stick to styrofoam in building a platform for a bearded dragon enclosure. You saved me a LOT of money trying other products, off to Home Depot to get some Glidden paint gripper!!!
+Katherine Pruschen Please let me know how it works out for you. Remember, the greater the surface area the more time it will need to fully cure. :)
I've heard that you have to have use a heavier application (even both sides) so it has enough to wick into the space between the beads. It dosen't eat over time and it gives a pretty good waterprroof seal. I did some on another project and it had bubbled in a few sections but I pushed it back down and it held after that for the one season it was out. Yes, you can carve with a hot knife :)
I'm telling you. Was thrilled that for once the easiest one to use is the best performer. That's happens sooo rarely.
thanks
i was looking for same type of this video for a long time
thanks again
Glad it could help :)
You are very welcome and yes you should peel off that plastic.
nice job-works well!
Glad to hear it :)