The 12800 base ISO on the zv-e1 is worth more to me than the viewfinder and MP on A7C2. I work overnights, and the majority of my pictures are in quite low light. At the same time compact lens to match the smaller cameras are often 2.8 or 4 maximum aperture. Have no detail loss at 25600 ISO is an absolutely insane feature in a camera this cheap.
I personally shoot videos and literally had these two side by side. I'm definitely going with the Zv-E1. My A7ii already makes my photography game easy. I just need a honest video camera that won't break the bank and that might be it.
@@senndyjules if you’re looking to just take photos for social, I’d recommend the ZV-E1 bc you’ll like the better lowlight performance and dynamic active stabilization, if you NEED higher res photos, then I’d say a7Cii but ZV-E1 would be my preference here
@@DavidZhoudoes the low light works on photo? Some how I’ve heard that it’s only for video? I mean I know lower pixel with each pixel being larger captures more light but there isn’t anything like second iso in photo so.. I am a newbie so any info is greatly appreciated thinking which to get thanks!
Nicely done! I bought the a7Cii as it’s by far the better hybrid camera, has a nice EVF when your outside in sunny weather, never overheats when I do long form videos like concerts or stage-plays or weddings and has more custom buttons as well as sharper 4K videos due to it’s downsampling from 7K resolution to 4K. Brilliant and I LOVE IT!!!
I still pick A7CII instead of ZV-E1 for video shooting for 70% outdoor work, because it had super 35 crop mode, which is easier for run and gun situation like events shooting or wedding that you might not know what will be happen next forever, ZV-E1 sensor is great, specs are great inside a small camera body, but however the potential overheating issue is a extreme downside, It just can't give me enough confident to use during work, nor the clients... for proper work might consider A7S3/FX3 better with no overheating at all, but I think I will defintely wait for A7S4 or FX3II in the future when they have the AI focus features and Dynamic active features, because now A7S3 been 3yrs old already since it released.
100% agree with your take! a7C II ends up being a better video camera as long as you don't want/need the higher frame rates or dual base ISO at 12,800. For more general work, I think the a7C II is fantastic (just look at all of the happy hybrid-shooting a7 IV owners). I still love my ZV-E1, but it does have it's extra considerations :)
As a hybrid shooter, 90% stills vs 10% video, I will go with the A7CR. Why mess with only 33mp when you can get really sharp photos with 61mp. Comes in very handy when a picture is cropped yet retains excellent picture quality. I see many are loving the ZV-E1 for both streaming, making YT videos and street photography/video. Though I have to say the person who loves stills, the A7C2 or the A7CR is the way to go. If you are into video, don't hesitate and get the ZV-E1. You will love it.
Due to pixel bin’ing, video quality of A7CR is not as good as A7CII, for both 4K30 & 4K60. There are good comparison videos on YT that show the difference. Is the downgrade in video quality worth upgrade in image quality?
Have a second back up battery for the ZV-E1 and alternate when the camera seems to be getting hot. But that being said i've heard plenty of people say they never had issues with it.
Just spent 5 days straight shooting in Santorini getting clips for a travel video and it didn’t overheat, I think it’s really just when you’re filming 1-hour+ videos, streaming while charging via USB-C, or leaving your camera out in the sun in 90 degree plus weather 😁✌🏼
@@DavidZhou David thanks! Makes sense. So if I’m not editing photos and shooting jpg I should be good printing those for framing at home or making a photo book ! So maybe zve1!
I went with the zv-e1 as i primarily shoot video. It's an upgrade from the a7iii that i will still keep. Surprisingly i did experience overheating om the a7iii but when shooting for a while in the hot sun
I think it’s just unavoidable with mirrorless cameras in the hot sun, yeah it’ll overheat but so do other cameras when pushed really hard in high temps also, just means you have to be more careful and intentional! (I’m sure I’ll get a lil frustrated when summer rolls around again haha)
@@DavidZhou yeah, my zv-e1 has gotten warmer than my other cameras and it will probably overheat at one point, but I doubt it will be much of an issue for me
Hey there, I recently acquired the ZVE1 for my work and daily photography needs. However, after using it for about six months, I've started to miss having an EVF especially for outdoor events like weddings and other shoots. I find it particularly useful for both photo and video work outdoors. I'm thinking of upgrading to either the A74 or the A7CII. Could you advise on whether it's worth upgrading to one of these models, and which one you would recommend more? p/s: Please don't suggest using an extra monitor; I want to keep things compact! 😄🤣😂
Hmmm… If you’re shooting client work like weddings, the a74 would be nice because you can have the peace of mind with dual card slot recording-plus it has a higher shutter speed maximum which is helpful for outdoor photography!
Excellent video! I have both of these cameras and am debating which camera to keep! It's still up in the air for me... as they're both very different and both great!
Shot on the a7S3 (same sensor as the ZV-E1) in S-LOG3 and color graded with CineMatch (paid plugin) and Lumetri Color (free in Premiere Pro)! And no I don’t sell any LUTs yet :(
@@DavidZhou I just bought cinematch. Thanks for responding. I just subscribed to you. In Cinematch did you match with any other cameras or did you just applied rec 709 and color graded it?
@@morningdrivecoffeebreak Typically I just use it to color correct to Rec709 (and use the exposure/temp/tint sliders to dial in the correct exposure/white balance) and then color grade with Lumetri Color (using LUTs I've purchased or manual grading)
I'd say that even though the zv-e1 is marketed as the more video centric camera, the a7c2 is the better one - also for video. Because... Overheating. Are you getting the shot or not. Or even more important - can you rely on getting the shot? A grainy shot is better than no shot. So this kinda leaves the zv-e1 in a position where it can only be used for small, and not important b-roll. And for small clips of 120p 4k. Let's say this still is an important part of your workflow. But since you're still going to need another camera that doesn't overheat while recording video, you're probably better of just getting the a7s3 if the extreme video specs are important. For me.. I'd always pick the a7c2. Much better value for money and much more utility imo.
If you’re looking for an overall better camera, I’d say the a7C2 edges out the win just because it’s more versatile-but I still wouldn’t discount the ZV-E1, I’ve only ever had it overheat on me in baking hot, direct sun shooting scenarios, but out of 15+ YT videos and 10+ client shoots I’ve shot with it since this video, it’s only overheated on me once. I still don’t recommend it as a main cam if you have the budget to get the a7S3, but otherwise it’s a killer B-cam to match your A-cam footage and it’s great for a compact solution for max video quality when you’re trying to run the smallest setup possible! Your point still stands and I don’t disagree with it though!
As an A7IV user who also owns the ZV-E1, I would be worried about using the A7Cii for long form video and without dual card slots I would not want to use it for pro work, on a side note the updates seem to have helped the ZV-E1s over heating. But at the end of the day if you are doing paid for video get the FX30.
It does not, it's a result of the sensor readout speed and they'll be present on both cameras (however, noticeably less present in the footage from the ZV-E1)
In the Low Light section of your video what did you mean you'd be picking the "little brother" of the A7sIII over the "little brother" of the A7IV every time? Thanks!
As I’m looking at shooting for real estate and need low light performance since the ac7ii crops in 4k60 which is how I shoot real estate for slow mo, would that have the same low light performance as a apc crop sensor camera? Say the fx30 in 4k60 which doesn’t crop in ontop of its apc sensor. Sorry if that doesn’t make sense 😅
You’re going to get “sharper” photos with the a7C II because it has a 33 megapixel sensor vs. the ZV-E1’s 12.1 megapixel sensor. So you’re going to get more details (and ability to crop/zoom on your photos) with the a7C II. If you’re not planning on heavily color grading your videos, they’re going to look similar between the two cameras. The ZV-E1 however can shoot video in S-LOG3 at 12,800 ISO with very little noise, making it the better choice for lowlight and it’ll have slightly better color latitude when color grading, so if you’re planning on diving really deep on the video side, the ZV-E1 is quite a beast. But if you’re looking for an overall more versatile camera, I’d go with the a7C II. Hope that helps!
@@DavidZhou Thank you for the detailed answer. What dual ISO values would you use for the Sony 7c ii? For top photos and videos? 50-3200? Which ISO values are actually the base ISO values, SLOG3 and Cinetone for the Sony 7C ii?
@neveoney7865 I believe it’s 800/3200 for SLOG3 and 125/500 for Cinetone. For stills, I believe it’s 100/400. Those are the values you’d get the cleanest looking image!
@@DavidZhou How can I get the videos and photos from the camera to my Mac (from the memory card) without data loss using the supplied HDMI cable or what do you suggest?
i wear eye glasses. can i use Atc 2 viewfinder to manage basic settings and menu without wearing glasses? secondly, what are the clear image zoom options ( if it works) in both camera when you are. in 1080 p at 120 fps? And how good is a7c 2 stabilization over all
I like your more nuanced assessment of video capabilities. I am 90% video but will choose the A7CII as I need a third studio camera for video podcasts and livestreams without paying double money and have the A7S3 for any run and gun stuff that comes up
@@DavidZhou ah I see. I think built quality and premium feels is important on this price range for me. Yeah I'm deciding to get A7Cii vs E1. I'm 80% video, but I think I'll just get the a7Cii because of the body material.. (It's also a bit cheaper here)
Thanks for the video bro, really went over all the main points! Well done. Question for you when you got the time, what Lense would you recommend for Gym workout videos/ and just overall vlogging lense for the zv e1? Got urself a new Sub! Keep crushing it!
I think the Sony 24mm f/1.4 GM is the perfect lens for shooting gym content, but if you want to be able to get a variety of angles/looks and don’t mind the extra size, I’d check out the 24-70 f/2.8 GM, just be wary of the front heavy weight haha. Another option is the Sony 20 f/1.8 G, it’s smaller, it’s a little cheaper, and is the perfect focal length for vlogging, but you’ll need to get a bit creative with your angles at the gym when you’re at that wide of an FOV. Hope that helps!
@@DavidZhou hey man! Thanks for taking the time to provide an answer to my question! Appreciate ya and sure will just wanted your experienced input for me to decide. Enjoy your week, and new year!
The viewfinder is the piece you look through on a camera! The a7C II has one but the ZV-E1 doesn't, you can only view the image you're about to take/have taken on the back LCD screen :)
Excellent comparison video. As a filmmaker, I don't find myself shooting long sequences. I don't shoot weddings, so that's not a factor for me either. Between these two cameras, the ZV-E1 would be my best choice. Not to mention the reframing feature of the ZV-E1 that makes it look like someone else is filming you. A feature that would be great for my one man short films. Subscribing.
I feel like the a7C II will be more versatile for you, you may not need the higher frame rate or better rolling shutter performance of the ZV-E1, instead you’ll probably benefit most from the better heat management of the a7C II based on use case
Is a7c2 better to upgrade from the a7m3?? I was suprise how a7m3 still makes great video quality but need a compact size body like two of them but still afraid of the overheating issue with zve1 as situation always changes and never wants to get frustation😅
The a7C2 hasn’t had overheating issues like the ZV-E1. I actually specifically upgraded from my a73 to the a7C2, and it’s been an upgrade for both photo and video-I think you’ll like it!
Hey mate -- how sure are you regarding the C2 being better for streaming over the E1? It's such a frustration to me that a £2k+ camera has this issue. What's different about the C2 body regarding this? Thanks so much
It seems the ZV-E1s processing is a little bit more intensive resulting in higher heat output. Again, anecdotally, the ZV-E1 has overheated on me both times I streamed with it while the a7C II did not (in test environments). There are workarounds that will allow the ZV-E1 to stream without overheating but the a7C II is good to go out of the box. Definitely frustrating, like you said. Hope that helps!
Kind of you to come back@@DavidZhou, thank you. It's an unacceptable scenario that anyone should be asked to spend so much money whilst knowing they will have to come up with, as you say, work-arounds. Poor show.
I would go with the ZV-E1, it’s an underrated beast. Just make sure to learn how to shoot in SLOG3 if you’re really going for that super cinematic/high quality look!
@@Johnwick01-d7p The FX30 is a beast but I love full-frame and the lowlight performance of the dual native ISO of the ZV-E1, in my opinion, helps it produce a better image (though there are definitely people that can run circles around me with the FX30)
@@GuiFanI was using the NiSi C5 matte box+ND system! It’s a bit pricey (and bulky), but it’s the best I’ve used so far. Good alternate is the Freewell magnetic VNDs! (I have videos on both on my channel)
Have the zv e1 and it definitely is a mini beast for video especially its small form factor. I sold my a74 so I can get the a7cii because of the better a.i and autofocus but most of all the small form factor. The small form factor is what I care about most that way it's less intimidating and more stealthy.
@DavidZhou that is true...my wife said why did you downgrade from a74 to a7cii...I had to explain to her that it's basically the same camera just smaller. lol...
@@chickenandricecrew9867this is the problem I had with a sigma fp and Leica lens shooting for a client. You could see how disappointed they were and unfortunately that was the last time I did it even though that’s how I get my best possible picture quality
Funny you should ask, I just picked one up haha-I still think full frame wins every time because of better lowlight capability but in well lit environments oof, it’s a hard choice
Not sure I agree with this take, the a7C2 is a really capable photo (and video) camera. It’s a cheaper and more compact version of the a7IV with very few sacrifices (namely lack of full sized HDMI and dual card slots)!
@@DavidZhou worse than a7IV ( in both photo and video ) , ok 250$ less expensive. It's supossed to be FF camera for beginners , just like Canon R8 , but its price is 1499$ .
@@DavidZhou one card slot, rolling shutter, fewer buttons, body. This camera is not for work. This is a camera for the average amateur user not for a work . I thought u knew that . I perfectly see the camera segment ZV1 / A7-4 / a9, and how they differ. But Sony simply decided to re-release the a7-4 in a different body
@@mex5341 agree it’s not an A cam for work but as the 4th Sony camera in my video podcast studio it’s ideal and far less likely to overheat than its ‘amateur’ sibling the ZV-E1
Is the significant rolling shutter on the A7Cii improved when you're cropped in 1.5x? I'm shopping for a new camera to replace my old D600 and I've narrowed it down to the ZV-E1 and A7Cii. My primary use cases will be 20-30 min interviews, a bit of cinematic work at various go kart tracks (both of people in the paddocks, vehicles, landscape, and the go karts themselves), webcam/streaming, and portrait photography. My big concern in going with the A7Cii is losing the 120fps slow-mo capability of the ZV-E1, but on the flip side, having a 33mp sensor would allow me to ditch my D600 since I could take pictures (at the track and during interviews/portrait sessions, etc) with A7Cii. I'll be getting a Tilta cage setup for whatever camera I choose. I do like the fan for the ZV-E1 (which doesn't seem to be available for the A7Cii...I guess it really doesn't need it?) I really hate these trade-offs. :) What lens would you recommend for walking around. I like the idea of the 16-35mm, since on the A7Cii in 60fps recording, I'd get a 24-52mm lens but I also like the 24-70mm 2.8 and perhaps getting a fast prime wide angle for walking around + streaming.
I don’t think cropping will help with rolling shutter. It will gain the benefit of 33MP but yeah, you will lose out on some video features if you choose the a7C II. The a7C II really doesn’t need a fan (but can accept the ZV-E1 one from Tilta, since all of the LCD wells are basically the same. 16-35 would be better if you want more wide angle shots (good for streaming, action shots like go karting if you’re on the track, etc.), but 24-70 gives you more range and reach (better for portraits, interview, shooting action from a bit more of a distance). Personally I’d go with the 24-70 just because it’s a bit more versatile (and just pick up like the Viltrox 16 1.8 as your wide prime). TBH, a7C II may suit you better if you want just one camera for photo/video, but if you’re ok with eventually picking up a second camera for photo or continue to use your d600, the ZV-E1 is a really underrated video camera. Hope that helps!
@@DavidZhou Thanks for the feedback! With regards to rolling shutter, I thought I had read that cropping helps because less of the sensor is being read, improving read times, but perhaps it isn’t significant enough. So much to take into consideration. Maybe I should just buy both 😂
@Digitalfiendscom if you DID get both… you’d have two really capable cameras and could do it all 🥴 maybe start with the a7C II since you want photo capabilities and then if you feel like you’re really missing out on some video features, pick up the ZV-E1 after that? I know it’s not an ideal solution, but may be the best approach!
@@DavidZhouthat’s how I’m leaning: get the A7cii first and if I really find I need the 120fps or less rolling shutter etc, I can grab the ZV-E1. My thinking is that Sony is going to update the FX3 probably next year, and that will probably get the new AI processor and other upgrades. Thanks again for the feedback.
FYI, you have some incorrect information in this video. The A7CR has a 1.24x crop, the A7C II is 1.5x crop for 4k60
Good catch, I didn't notice while editing but you're right, it's a much more significant crop (1.5x) than the 20% I said--pinning for others to see!
Thank you! Absolutely helped me to make a decision - I'm buying the Sony - Alpha ZV-E1 😍
I'm real close to getting it too😊Do you like it?😮
Video quality is valid and comparison is thorough MY MAN ALWAYS KILLING IT
Thanks Kip! Just trying to deliver some value haha
The 12800 base ISO on the zv-e1 is worth more to me than the viewfinder and MP on A7C2. I work overnights, and the majority of my pictures are in quite low light. At the same time compact lens to match the smaller cameras are often 2.8 or 4 maximum aperture. Have no detail loss at 25600 ISO is an absolutely insane feature in a camera this cheap.
The effect of photos taken in low light with zve-1 is how? Can I use flash? zve-1弱光下拍摄的照片效果如何？可以使用闪光灯吗？
Very thorough comparison video
The only thing i want from a7c and c ii is the dual body color. It somewhat gave it a classic look.
Cool factor is undeniable
I personally shoot videos and literally had these two side by side. I'm definitely going with the Zv-E1. My A7ii already makes my photography game easy. I just need a honest video camera that won't break the bank and that might be it.
Which one would you choose? Sony a7C II or ZV-E1? 💭
Trying to upgrade from my action cameras.
Looking at the zve1 or fx30
Don’t know if i should invest in full frame or aps c.
@@remyz6360 FX30 is a great camera! I personally love full-frame but it will be more pircey so just keep that in mind going into it.
@@senndyjules if you’re looking to just take photos for social, I’d recommend the ZV-E1 bc you’ll like the better lowlight performance and dynamic active stabilization, if you NEED higher res photos, then I’d say a7Cii but ZV-E1 would be my preference here
@@senndyjules ZVE1
@@DavidZhoudoes the low light works on photo? Some how I’ve heard that it’s only for video? I mean I know lower pixel with each pixel being larger captures more light but there isn’t anything like second iso in photo so.. I am a newbie so any info is greatly appreciated thinking which to get thanks!
I would go for the ZV-E1 because of 4K 120fps and the better sensor for video
I agree!
Great summary man! I plan on snagging the A7c2 fo rmy main travel camera. 30+ megapixel photos plus 10bit slog. Hell yah!
It’s the perfect travel camera! And it looks great too haha
very clear message. the best review video
Nicely done! I bought the a7Cii as it’s by far the better hybrid camera, has a nice EVF when your outside in sunny weather, never overheats when I do long form videos like concerts or stage-plays or weddings and has more custom buttons as well as sharper 4K videos due to it’s downsampling from 7K resolution to 4K. Brilliant and I LOVE IT!!!
I still pick A7CII instead of ZV-E1 for video shooting for 70% outdoor work, because it had super 35 crop mode, which is easier for run and gun situation like events shooting or wedding that you might not know what will be happen next forever, ZV-E1 sensor is great, specs are great inside a small camera body, but however the potential overheating issue is a extreme downside, It just can't give me enough confident to use during work, nor the clients... for proper work might consider A7S3/FX3 better with no overheating at all, but I think I will defintely wait for A7S4 or FX3II in the future when they have the AI focus features and Dynamic active features, because now A7S3 been 3yrs old already since it released.
100% agree with your take! a7C II ends up being a better video camera as long as you don't want/need the higher frame rates or dual base ISO at 12,800. For more general work, I think the a7C II is fantastic (just look at all of the happy hybrid-shooting a7 IV owners). I still love my ZV-E1, but it does have it's extra considerations :)
As a hybrid shooter, 90% stills vs 10% video, I will go with the A7CR. Why mess with only 33mp when you can get really sharp photos with 61mp. Comes in very handy when a picture is cropped yet retains excellent picture quality. I see many are loving the ZV-E1 for both streaming, making YT videos and street photography/video. Though I have to say the person who loves stills, the A7C2 or the A7CR is the way to go. If you are into video, don't hesitate and get the ZV-E1. You will love it.
Due to pixel bin’ing, video quality of A7CR is not as good as A7CII, for both 4K30 & 4K60. There are good comparison videos on YT that show the difference. Is the downgrade in video quality worth upgrade in image quality?
Well, he shoots mostly stills so I guess it is worth it
This is by far one of the best comparison videos ive seen, very nicely done
Have a second back up battery for the ZV-E1 and alternate when the camera seems to be getting hot. But that being said i've heard plenty of people say they never had issues with it.
Just spent 5 days straight shooting in Santorini getting clips for a travel video and it didn’t overheat, I think it’s really just when you’re filming 1-hour+ videos, streaming while charging via USB-C, or leaving your camera out in the sun in 90 degree plus weather 😁✌🏼
I made boxing photo and videos with ZVE10. I will buy ZVE1 in the future.
Great review, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
I went with the ZV-E1 and kept my ol' a73 as my photography camera..
That's a perfect pairing 🤝
Curious why not shoot photo with zve1 for most stuff? 10fps seems good
@jaymills1720 really just because of no EVF and 12MP photos, otherwise I would!
@@DavidZhou David thanks! Makes sense. So if I’m not editing photos and shooting jpg I should be good printing those for framing at home or making a photo book ! So maybe zve1!
@jaymills1720 should be good for printing as long as it’s 8x10 and smaller! Shouldn’t notice the lack of MP! It still takes phenomenal photos 😂
I went with the zv-e1 as i primarily shoot video. It's an upgrade from the a7iii that i will still keep. Surprisingly i did experience overheating om the a7iii but when shooting for a while in the hot sun
I think it’s just unavoidable with mirrorless cameras in the hot sun, yeah it’ll overheat but so do other cameras when pushed really hard in high temps also, just means you have to be more careful and intentional! (I’m sure I’ll get a lil frustrated when summer rolls around again haha)
@@DavidZhou yeah, my zv-e1 has gotten warmer than my other cameras and it will probably overheat at one point, but I doubt it will be much of an issue for me
Hey there, I recently acquired the ZVE1 for my work and daily photography needs. However, after using it for about six months, I've started to miss having an EVF especially for outdoor events like weddings and other shoots. I find it particularly useful for both photo and video work outdoors.
I'm thinking of upgrading to either the A74 or the A7CII. Could you advise on whether it's worth upgrading to one of these models, and which one you would recommend more?
p/s: Please don't suggest using an extra monitor; I want to keep things compact! 😄🤣😂
Hmmm… If you’re shooting client work like weddings, the a74 would be nice because you can have the peace of mind with dual card slot recording-plus it has a higher shutter speed maximum which is helpful for outdoor photography!
@@DavidZhou Okay man, that means a lot! Would consider Sony A74 soon! Thanks mannnn
Excellent video!
I have both of these cameras and am debating which camera to keep! It's still up in the air for me... as they're both very different and both great!
It's a hard one! I'd say keep both but of course, that's easier said than done haha
The effect of photos taken in low light with zve-1 is how? Can I use flash?
well done review
Hi, and the sony a7c2 works well with flash speed 1/200 or 1/160
Great video this really answered a lot of my questions. Will the fans really help with over heating?
It’ll dissipate the heat! It’s worked for me.
May I ask what camera did you use to film this video and also which lens? Beautiful video quality. Did you also color grade and do you sell any luts?
Shot on the a7S3 (same sensor as the ZV-E1) in S-LOG3 and color graded with CineMatch (paid plugin) and Lumetri Color (free in Premiere Pro)! And no I don’t sell any LUTs yet :(
@@DavidZhou I just bought cinematch. Thanks for responding. I just subscribed to you. In Cinematch did you match with any other cameras or did you just applied rec 709 and color graded it?
@@morningdrivecoffeebreak Typically I just use it to color correct to Rec709 (and use the exposure/temp/tint sliders to dial in the correct exposure/white balance) and then color grade with Lumetri Color (using LUTs I've purchased or manual grading)
I'd say that even though the zv-e1 is marketed as the more video centric camera, the a7c2 is the better one - also for video.
Because... Overheating. Are you getting the shot or not. Or even more important - can you rely on getting the shot?
A grainy shot is better than no shot.
So this kinda leaves the zv-e1 in a position where it can only be used for small, and not important b-roll. And for small clips of 120p 4k.
Let's say this still is an important part of your workflow. But since you're still going to need another camera that doesn't overheat while recording video, you're probably better of just getting the a7s3 if the extreme video specs are important. For me.. I'd always pick the a7c2. Much better value for money and much more utility imo.
If you’re looking for an overall better camera, I’d say the a7C2 edges out the win just because it’s more versatile-but I still wouldn’t discount the ZV-E1, I’ve only ever had it overheat on me in baking hot, direct sun shooting scenarios, but out of 15+ YT videos and 10+ client shoots I’ve shot with it since this video, it’s only overheated on me once. I still don’t recommend it as a main cam if you have the budget to get the a7S3, but otherwise it’s a killer B-cam to match your A-cam footage and it’s great for a compact solution for max video quality when you’re trying to run the smallest setup possible!
Your point still stands and I don’t disagree with it though!
Which sensor is a better image for video? Color, DR, highlight rolloff and sharpness?
IMO, ZV-E1
@@DavidZhou thanks David
As an A7IV user who also owns the ZV-E1, I would be worried about using the A7Cii for long form video and without dual card slots I would not want to use it for pro work, on a side note the updates seem to have helped the ZV-E1s over heating. But at the end of the day if you are doing paid for video get the FX30.
Fx3 I think you mean. Fx30is also good but it’s different sensor than the Fx3 and ZV-e1
question - does rolling shutter go away on manual shutter speeds?
It does not, it's a result of the sensor readout speed and they'll be present on both cameras (however, noticeably less present in the footage from the ZV-E1)
Hi, what about eye autofocus? Which one is better?
They perform pretty similarly!
Well done. Does the dynamic active stabilization of,the ZV-E1 introduce pixel binning (line skipping) ?
In the Low Light section of your video what did you mean you'd be picking the "little brother" of the A7sIII over the "little brother" of the A7IV every time? Thanks!
Just meant that I’d pick the ZV-E1 over the a7C II for lowlight!
ZV-E1 = a7S3’s little brother
a7C II = a74’s little brother
@@DavidZhou Thanks so much!
As I’m looking at shooting for real estate and need low light performance since the ac7ii crops in 4k60 which is how I shoot real estate for slow mo, would that have the same low light performance as a apc crop sensor camera? Say the fx30 in 4k60 which doesn’t crop in ontop of its apc sensor.
Sorry if that doesn’t make sense 😅
Hi, in terms of sharpness and colors for photos and videos, which one do you think is better? The Sony 7Cii or the Sony ZVE1?
You’re going to get “sharper” photos with the a7C II because it has a 33 megapixel sensor vs. the ZV-E1’s 12.1 megapixel sensor. So you’re going to get more details (and ability to crop/zoom on your photos) with the a7C II.
If you’re not planning on heavily color grading your videos, they’re going to look similar between the two cameras.
The ZV-E1 however can shoot video in S-LOG3 at 12,800 ISO with very little noise, making it the better choice for lowlight and it’ll have slightly better color latitude when color grading, so if you’re planning on diving really deep on the video side, the ZV-E1 is quite a beast.
But if you’re looking for an overall more versatile camera, I’d go with the a7C II.
Hope that helps!
@@DavidZhou Thank you for the detailed answer. What dual ISO values would you use for the Sony 7c ii? For top photos and videos? 50-3200?
Which ISO values are actually the base ISO values, SLOG3 and Cinetone for the Sony 7C ii?
@neveoney7865 I believe it’s 800/3200 for SLOG3 and 125/500 for Cinetone. For stills, I believe it’s 100/400. Those are the values you’d get the cleanest looking image!
@@DavidZhou thanks :)
@@DavidZhou How can I get the videos and photos from the camera to my Mac (from the memory card) without data loss using the supplied HDMI cable or what do you suggest?
i wear eye glasses. can i use Atc 2 viewfinder to manage basic settings and menu without wearing glasses? secondly, what are the clear image zoom options ( if it works) in both camera when you are. in 1080 p at 120 fps? And how good is a7c 2 stabilization over all
can you please provide 4k clips of both cameras so we can test out ourselves in editing plzzzzzzzz
I like your more nuanced assessment of video capabilities. I am 90% video but will choose the A7CII as I need a third studio camera for video podcasts and livestreams without paying double money and have the A7S3 for any run and gun stuff that comes up
a7C II is perfect for that since you're not dealing with a lot of fast movement and you don't need high frame rates for that. ✊🏼
i just bought my zv -e1. a7siii lil bro all the way hands down.
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Hi, is the ZV E1 body made from meral or plastic like zv e10? Cant find any info on internet
Plastic like ZV-E10, but it does feel like "nice plastic" if that makes sense. Feels very durable and it helps keep the weight down.
@@DavidZhou ah I see. I think built quality and premium feels is important on this price range for me. Yeah I'm deciding to get A7Cii vs E1. I'm 80% video, but I think I'll just get the a7Cii because of the body material.. (It's also a bit cheaper here)
Is a7cii have only 5 stop stabilizer? Or 7 stops?
Thanks for the video bro, really went over all the main points! Well done. Question for you when you got the time, what Lense would you recommend for Gym workout videos/ and just overall vlogging lense for the zv e1? Got urself a new Sub! Keep crushing it!
I think the Sony 24mm f/1.4 GM is the perfect lens for shooting gym content, but if you want to be able to get a variety of angles/looks and don’t mind the extra size, I’d check out the 24-70 f/2.8 GM, just be wary of the front heavy weight haha. Another option is the Sony 20 f/1.8 G, it’s smaller, it’s a little cheaper, and is the perfect focal length for vlogging, but you’ll need to get a bit creative with your angles at the gym when you’re at that wide of an FOV. Hope that helps!
@@DavidZhou hey man! Thanks for taking the time to provide an answer to my question! Appreciate ya and sure will just wanted your experienced input for me to decide. Enjoy your week, and new year!
@Aesthetics622 if you ever wanna ask any other questions, you should join my discord server! 😁
Interesting 🤔 what’s a view finder??
The viewfinder is the piece you look through on a camera! The a7C II has one but the ZV-E1 doesn't, you can only view the image you're about to take/have taken on the back LCD screen :)
Excellent comparison video. As a filmmaker, I don't find myself shooting long sequences. I don't shoot weddings, so that's not a factor for me either. Between these two cameras, the ZV-E1 would be my best choice. Not to mention the reframing feature of the ZV-E1 that makes it look like someone else is filming you. A feature that would be great for my one man short films. Subscribing.
Appreciate the perspective! This is what I try to tell people when they get up in arms about overheating.
I believe a7Cii has this feature as well?
It absolutely does@hansenli5573
No idea how I haven’t found you before but I just benched a number of your videos at the gym….fantastic content inspiring for sure!
Really appreciate that man!
@@DavidZhou of course bud….killer content. I need to take notes 😂
just because of rolling shutter i am not buying a7cii , i am gonna wait for fx3 mark ii and it will work for me for 10 years
Waiting on that FX3 II right there with you
Hi are they about the same weight? Thx
Yup!
I make long-form UA-cam podcasts + Short form content which will be the best for me sir?
I feel like the a7C II will be more versatile for you, you may not need the higher frame rate or better rolling shutter performance of the ZV-E1, instead you’ll probably benefit most from the better heat management of the a7C II based on use case
Thank you so much@@DavidZhou
Sony a7c 2 or a7s 3?
a7S3 is just a better ZV-E1 minus some of the newer bells and whistles but for video work, a7S3 ALL the way! Still lacking imo for photos though
Out of curiosity, when you tested streaming, what frame rate were you running? 24 or 30?
30 or 60, can’t remember which
@@DavidZhou whoa! Either way, that’s wild. I wonder what explains the a7cII’s outpacing the zv-e1. It has to perform downsampling, too…
@cabellofatto that’s honestly a really good question I want to research into!
"you dont take that many photos" - me, a sports photographer: 🤡
Is a7c2 better to upgrade from the a7m3?? I was suprise how a7m3 still makes great video quality but need a compact size body like two of them but still afraid of the overheating issue with zve1 as situation always changes and never wants to get frustation😅
The a7C2 hasn’t had overheating issues like the ZV-E1. I actually specifically upgraded from my a73 to the a7C2, and it’s been an upgrade for both photo and video-I think you’ll like it!
Hey mate -- how sure are you regarding the C2 being better for streaming over the E1? It's such a frustration to me that a £2k+ camera has this issue. What's different about the C2 body regarding this? Thanks so much
It seems the ZV-E1s processing is a little bit more intensive resulting in higher heat output. Again, anecdotally, the ZV-E1 has overheated on me both times I streamed with it while the a7C II did not (in test environments).
There are workarounds that will allow the ZV-E1 to stream without overheating but the a7C II is good to go out of the box. Definitely frustrating, like you said. Hope that helps!
Kind of you to come back@@DavidZhou, thank you. It's an unacceptable scenario that anyone should be asked to spend so much money whilst knowing they will have to come up with, as you say, work-arounds. Poor show.
Which one would I choose? For film making but I need slow motion, plz rply😊
I would go with the ZV-E1, it’s an underrated beast. Just make sure to learn how to shoot in SLOG3 if you’re really going for that super cinematic/high quality look!
@@DavidZhou ok last bro, which one is beast zv E1 or Fx30, for film making 🤔
@@Johnwick01-d7p The FX30 is a beast but I love full-frame and the lowlight performance of the dual native ISO of the ZV-E1, in my opinion, helps it produce a better image (though there are definitely people that can run circles around me with the FX30)
ok
What about in 1080 p on zvE 1 any overheat
Negatory!
@@DavidZhou I need so testing bro my plan is for live event 1080 and for cinematic shot 4k
Super macha😊❤
6:02 which lens did you use for this shots?
Pretty sure it was the 24-70 f/2.8 GM
@@DavidZhou Thank you. There was some ND filter also?
@@GuiFanI was using the NiSi C5 matte box+ND system! It’s a bit pricey (and bulky), but it’s the best I’ve used so far. Good alternate is the Freewell magnetic VNDs! (I have videos on both on my channel)
Have the zv e1 and it definitely is a mini beast for video especially its small form factor. I sold my a74 so I can get the a7cii because of the better a.i and autofocus but most of all the small form factor. The small form factor is what I care about most that way it's less intimidating and more stealthy.
I love the form factor of these smaller cameras, though I do feel like I'm packing less heat when I walk into the room for client shoots haha
@DavidZhou that is true...my wife said why did you downgrade from a74 to a7cii...I had to explain to her that it's basically the same camera just smaller. lol...
@@chickenandricecrew9867 Love to see that your wife is interested in your gear collection! 😂
@@chickenandricecrew9867this is the problem I had with a sigma fp and Leica lens shooting for a client. You could see how disappointed they were and unfortunately that was the last time I did it even though that’s how I get my best possible picture quality
I'm waiting for a7cs.... But I probably will never see it😢😢😢
That’s what the ZV-E1 is!
Or... FX30?
Funny you should ask, I just picked one up haha-I still think full frame wins every time because of better lowlight capability but in well lit environments oof, it’s a hard choice
@@DavidZhou yeah, I‘m using a FX3 at the moment and searching for a second cam (top down + product shots). So APS-C might be a plus in that situation
@@MatthiasKleine definitely not a bad choice, cheaper too while doing exactly what you need it to and it’d be so similar to using your FX3
this new a7C-2 camera is rly strange step from Sony , actually step back . They should have closed their 7С camera series after bad a7C.
Not sure I agree with this take, the a7C2 is a really capable photo (and video) camera. It’s a cheaper and more compact version of the a7IV with very few sacrifices (namely lack of full sized HDMI and dual card slots)!
@@DavidZhou worse than a7IV ( in both photo and video ) , ok 250$ less expensive.
It's supossed to be FF camera for beginners , just like Canon R8 , but its price is 1499$ .
@mex5341 what’s worse about it for photo/video?
@@DavidZhou one card slot, rolling shutter, fewer buttons, body. This camera is not for work. This is a camera for the average amateur user not for a work . I thought u knew that . I perfectly see the camera segment ZV1 / A7-4 / a9, and how they differ. But Sony simply decided to re-release the a7-4 in a different body
@@mex5341 agree it’s not an A cam for work but as the 4th Sony camera in my video podcast studio it’s ideal and far less likely to overheat than its ‘amateur’ sibling the ZV-E1
The A7Cii has 7 stop IBIS not 5😅
You missed the Zv e1 auto framing feature
Sony A7iv vs sony A7cii making video
a7cii because have i.a
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I was so excited about that, ngl 😂
Zve1 is sa video camera 😅
Gosh, these are both no brainers compared to my a6500 crying on my shelf 🥲
That's going to be an antique some day 😂
Is the significant rolling shutter on the A7Cii improved when you're cropped in 1.5x? I'm shopping for a new camera to replace my old D600 and I've narrowed it down to the ZV-E1 and A7Cii. My primary use cases will be 20-30 min interviews, a bit of cinematic work at various go kart tracks (both of people in the paddocks, vehicles, landscape, and the go karts themselves), webcam/streaming, and portrait photography. My big concern in going with the A7Cii is losing the 120fps slow-mo capability of the ZV-E1, but on the flip side, having a 33mp sensor would allow me to ditch my D600 since I could take pictures (at the track and during interviews/portrait sessions, etc) with A7Cii. I'll be getting a Tilta cage setup for whatever camera I choose. I do like the fan for the ZV-E1 (which doesn't seem to be available for the A7Cii...I guess it really doesn't need it?)
I really hate these trade-offs. :)
What lens would you recommend for walking around. I like the idea of the 16-35mm, since on the A7Cii in 60fps recording, I'd get a 24-52mm lens but I also like the 24-70mm 2.8 and perhaps getting a fast prime wide angle for walking around + streaming.
I don’t think cropping will help with rolling shutter. It will gain the benefit of 33MP but yeah, you will lose out on some video features if you choose the a7C II.
The a7C II really doesn’t need a fan (but can accept the ZV-E1 one from Tilta, since all of the LCD wells are basically the same.
16-35 would be better if you want more wide angle shots (good for streaming, action shots like go karting if you’re on the track, etc.), but 24-70 gives you more range and reach (better for portraits, interview, shooting action from a bit more of a distance). Personally I’d go with the 24-70 just because it’s a bit more versatile (and just pick up like the Viltrox 16 1.8 as your wide prime).
TBH, a7C II may suit you better if you want just one camera for photo/video, but if you’re ok with eventually picking up a second camera for photo or continue to use your d600, the ZV-E1 is a really underrated video camera.
Hope that helps!
@@DavidZhou Thanks for the feedback! With regards to rolling shutter, I thought I had read that cropping helps because less of the sensor is being read, improving read times, but perhaps it isn’t significant enough.
So much to take into consideration. Maybe I should just buy both 😂
@Digitalfiendscom if you DID get both… you’d have two really capable cameras and could do it all 🥴 maybe start with the a7C II since you want photo capabilities and then if you feel like you’re really missing out on some video features, pick up the ZV-E1 after that? I know it’s not an ideal solution, but may be the best approach!
@@DavidZhouthat’s how I’m leaning: get the A7cii first and if I really find I need the 120fps or less rolling shutter etc, I can grab the ZV-E1. My thinking is that Sony is going to update the FX3 probably next year, and that will probably get the new AI processor and other upgrades.
Thanks again for the feedback.
@@DavidZhouJust realised I wasn't subbed...sheesh. 🤣 Btw what lens are you using for these videos? Sony 14mm 1.4?
A7IV or A7Cii? which one to choose?