Hi, I copied my response to Tronkel1 to you, just to make sure you see it. There was a problem on the November ISO when using Archinstall through profiles. That is, to install a desktop or window manager with other apps. It would stop part way through with an error message. However Archinstall would work with a base install. Since the November ISO, there have been two updates to Archinstall. I'm sure the new version will be on the December ISO. However, you can still use the November ISO. After you boot up to the ISO do this: pacman -S archinstall After it updates, type: archinstall Now you can go through the regular install process and do a full install. It works, I tried it twice. Note, the new installer has changed, but it's still easy to use.
I am on Debian Trixie which is Debian testing and has kernel 6.11.9. My other laptop has Debian Bookworm with backports so that also has the same kernel. So I expect we will be getting Kernel 6.12 soon in one of the updates. I don't bother to change the kernels. I just use what ever one I get with the updates. As long as everything's working I don't mind.
Wow, that's a current kernel for Debian. I never tried Debian testing or the backports. Sticking with the kernel that's given you from the distro is good advice.
@@linuxmench2118 You only get that kernel if you are on Debian Testing or Debian 12 Bookworm with backports. If not then you just get kernel 6.1 which is the LTS version I think. I know Linux Mint 22 Wilma has a later version than that. There is also Debian Sid which is the unstable but Testing is better because it is less likely to break. Debian Trixie is the Testing version of what will be Debian 13 which I think Debian may release next year.
6.1 is the second LTS kernel. Older kernels may not work with newer hardware and they don't receive new features; however, they do receive security updates until Kernel Dot Org labels them EOL. I'm looking forward to Debian 13. Debian 12 was released in June, I think, of 2023.
@@linuxmench2118 Yes Debian 12 which is Debian Bookworm was released last year in 2023. I think Debian only release new versions every 2 years. Unlike Linux Mint which releases a new version every 3 months and Ubuntu once a year for the LTS. Debian 13 is Debian Trixie which is what the next version of Debian will be called. Trixie is still in Testing but it is very stable. It has Gnome 47 which is the same version that Ubuntu now has and also Cinnamon 6. So you are getting the same desktops and software as what the latest LTS version of Ubuntu is using, so although Debian call it "Testing" it's not really Testing. As Ubuntu and other Ubuntu based Linux are already using those versions of software. Debian Sid is the unstable version and more bleeding edge though many people do use it. You can still download individual packages from Debian Sid and they do work on Trixie as well as Bookworm. I would not use Sid as my daily OS. I decided on Trixie because the Testing version is less likely to break than Sid. I think Trixie is very stable. In fact if you use it you don't even know you are on testing.
Last week I tried to install the November ISO from Arch and tried to install the stable kernel using the archinstall script. No joy - the installer failed half way through the install process. I then went and downloaded the ISO which was released the previous September and it installed and ran fine. I think the archinstall script itself was broken sometime between September and November. Not sure if the kernel version was to blame here. I'll now be having a go with the December Arch ISO and see if that installs OK with the stable kernel. Otherwise Arch runs great on my collection of Mini PCs (all made in China) and very reasonably priced too. A 16GB version can be found on Amazon for well under €200. Thanks for your great videos! 😇
I ran into the same thing and seems to be related to installing Pipewire. I choose no audio server and the install works and it can then be installed from Pacman later
You're welcome. Thanks for the positive feedback, I appreciate it. There was a problem on the November ISO when using Archinstall through profiles. That is, to install a desktop or window manager with other apps. It would stop part way through with an error message. However Archinstall would work with a base install. Since the November ISO, there have been two updates to Archinstall. I'm sure the new version will be on the December ISO. However, you can still use the November ISO. After you boot up to the ISO do this: pacman -S archinstall After it updates, type: archinstall Now you can go through the regular install process and do a full install. It works, I tried it twice. Note, the new installer has changed, but it's still easy to use.
Yes, you can install a newer version of archinstall onto an ISO. However, next time you boot to that ISO, it will have the older version of archinstall. Sometimes, archinstall updates after an ISO is released.
before using archinstall script ... you must update ... sudo pacman -Sy ... to update extra repository ... and there is a newer version of archinstall script ...
Hi Menchie When you get the time, could you please update your Gitlab Arch (btw) manual install instructions to include setting up a root partition with BTRFS subvolumes. This is one advantage of using the archinstall script, in that it allows for automatic setup of these BTRFS subvolumes. It would also be nice though, to have a concise manual cheatsheet option as an alternative to the archinstall script - ideal for those Arch (btw) anoraks like myself! 🕶🕶🕶🕶🕶🕶🕶🕶
@@linuxmench2118 Never mind. I'll do some research myself on this and make out a little cheat sheet add-on that you could upload to your GitHub repo. That repo is a useful resource for newcomers to Arch, so it makes sense to keep everything together in the one place. 🙅♀
LOL. I suppose you never set btrfs with subvolumes manually. If you can get some instructions, I'll test it in a virtual machine. If it works, I post it to my Gitlab repository and I'll make a video about it. Since I only ever used ext4 file systems, I should use the install script to make a virtual machine with btrfs just to see what it's about.
BTRFS works very well on Arch along with Timeshift which has 2 methods of taking snapshots - BTRFS and RSYNC. Both are good systems, but BTRFS snapshots are way faster to create, almost instantaneous in fact. ZFS file system as used in FreeBSD is also excellent for snapshots, but ZFS is not so great on GNU/Linux. Fedora uses BTRFS by default but doesn't set up the BTRFS subvolumes correctly at install time. Installing them after the fact is a bit complicated and unfriendly etc. I reckon your concise approach to beginner-friendly video tutorial creation would be welcomed by many Arch users who wish to get BTRFS snapshots up and running on Arch as well as other distros with the minimum of effort. I'll try to keep the cheat sheet as small and friendly as possible. BRB
I read about BTRFS and subvolumes on the Arch Wiki. Seems kind of complicated. Like you mentioned, it's good for snapshots. Oddly, I never used Timeshift or snapshots because I can easily do a new install using my post install script and all my personal stuff is backed up on external devices. If an update causes a problem, I just downgrade the offending app. Using the Arch install script, I installed a VM with BTRFS and subvolumes. It's just a base install with root, no user, apps, window managers, or desktops. When I do lsblk, I can see the subvolumes. That's as far as I got when my wife called me for dinner. Now, I'm off to my 9 to 5 day job. Cheers!
Fantastic explainer, thank you
You're welcome. Thanks for the positive feedback, I appreciate it.
Hi, I copied my response to Tronkel1 to you, just to make sure you see it.
There was a problem on the November ISO when using Archinstall through profiles. That is, to install a desktop or window manager with other apps. It would stop part way through with an error message. However Archinstall would work with a base install.
Since the November ISO, there have been two updates to Archinstall. I'm sure the new version will be on the December ISO. However, you can still use the November ISO. After you boot up to the ISO do this:
pacman -S archinstall
After it updates, type: archinstall
Now you can go through the regular install process and do a full install. It works, I tried it twice. Note, the new installer has changed, but it's still easy to use.
Great video as always... I love your channel!! (my wife is asking why on earth I keep saying 'I aaammmmm the Linux Mench!' 😉😁
Thanks for the positive feedback and kind words. I really appreciate it. 😀ROTFL
That is too funny.
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Great Vid! Many Thanks to YOU!
You're welcome. Thanks for the positive feedback. I appreciate it.
I am on Debian Trixie which is Debian testing and has kernel 6.11.9. My other laptop has Debian Bookworm with backports so that also has the same kernel. So I expect we will be getting Kernel 6.12 soon in one of the updates. I don't bother to change the kernels. I just use what ever one I get with the updates. As long as everything's working I don't mind.
Wow, that's a current kernel for Debian. I never tried Debian testing or the backports. Sticking with the kernel that's given you from the distro is good advice.
@@linuxmench2118 You only get that kernel if you are on Debian Testing or Debian 12 Bookworm with backports. If not then you just get kernel 6.1 which is the LTS version I think. I know Linux Mint 22 Wilma has a later version than that. There is also Debian Sid which is the unstable but Testing is better because it is less likely to break. Debian Trixie is the Testing version of what will be Debian 13 which I think Debian may release next year.
6.1 is the second LTS kernel. Older kernels may not work with newer hardware and they don't receive new features; however, they do receive security updates until Kernel Dot Org labels them EOL. I'm looking forward to Debian 13. Debian 12 was released in June, I think, of 2023.
@@linuxmench2118 Yes Debian 12 which is Debian Bookworm was released last year in 2023. I think Debian only release new versions every 2 years. Unlike Linux Mint which releases a new version every 3 months and Ubuntu once a year for the LTS. Debian 13 is Debian Trixie which is what the next version of Debian will be called. Trixie is still in Testing but it is very stable. It has Gnome 47 which is the same version that Ubuntu now has and also Cinnamon 6. So you are getting the same desktops and software as what the latest LTS version of Ubuntu is using, so although Debian call it "Testing" it's not really Testing. As Ubuntu and other Ubuntu based Linux are already using those versions of software. Debian Sid is the unstable version and more bleeding edge though many people do use it. You can still download individual packages from Debian Sid and they do work on Trixie as well as Bookworm. I would not use Sid as my daily OS. I decided on Trixie because the Testing version is less likely to break than Sid. I think Trixie is very stable. In fact if you use it you don't even know you are on testing.
That’s great information. Thanks for explaining it. I appreciate it.
Last week I tried to install the November ISO from Arch and tried to install the stable kernel using the archinstall script. No joy - the installer failed half way through the install process.
I then went and downloaded the ISO which was released the previous September and it installed and ran fine. I think the archinstall script itself was broken sometime between September and November. Not sure if the kernel version was to blame here. I'll now be having a go with the December Arch ISO and see if that installs OK with the stable kernel. Otherwise Arch runs great on my collection of Mini PCs (all made in China) and very reasonably priced too. A 16GB version can be found on Amazon for well under €200. Thanks for your great videos! 😇
I ran into the same thing and seems to be related to installing Pipewire. I choose no audio server and the install works and it can then be installed from Pacman later
You're welcome. Thanks for the positive feedback, I appreciate it.
There was a problem on the November ISO when using Archinstall through profiles. That is, to install a desktop or window manager with other apps. It would stop part way through with an error message. However Archinstall would work with a base install.
Since the November ISO, there have been two updates to Archinstall. I'm sure the new version will be on the December ISO. However, you can still use the November ISO. After you boot up to the ISO do this:
pacman -S archinstall
After it updates, type: archinstall
Now you can go through the regular install process and do a full install. It works, I tried it twice. Note, the new installer has changed, but it's still easy to use.
@@linuxmench2118 Wow - that is cool!. Re-install archinstall using pacman! That's a recursive solution I think. LOL! 😂
Yes, you can install a newer version of archinstall onto an ISO. However, next time you boot to that ISO, it will have the older version of archinstall. Sometimes, archinstall updates after an ISO is released.
before using archinstall script ... you must update ... sudo pacman -Sy ... to update extra repository ... and there is a newer version of archinstall script ...
Hi Menchie
When you get the time, could you please update your Gitlab Arch (btw) manual install instructions to include setting up a root partition with BTRFS subvolumes. This is one advantage of using the archinstall script, in that it allows for automatic setup of these BTRFS subvolumes. It would also be nice though, to have a concise manual cheatsheet option as an alternative to the archinstall script - ideal for those Arch (btw) anoraks like myself! 🕶🕶🕶🕶🕶🕶🕶🕶
I never used BTRFS, so I wouldn’t be able to make a video on it or type instructions for setting it up. Sorry 😞
@@linuxmench2118 Never mind. I'll do some research myself on this and make out a little cheat sheet add-on that you could upload to your GitHub repo. That repo is a useful resource for newcomers to Arch, so it makes sense to keep everything together in the one place. 🙅♀
LOL. I suppose you never set btrfs with subvolumes manually. If you can get some instructions, I'll test it in a virtual machine. If it works, I post it to my Gitlab repository and I'll make a video about it. Since I only ever used ext4 file systems, I should use the install script to make a virtual machine with btrfs just to see what it's about.
BTRFS works very well on Arch along with Timeshift which has 2 methods of taking snapshots - BTRFS and RSYNC. Both are good systems, but BTRFS snapshots are way faster to create, almost instantaneous in fact. ZFS file system as used in FreeBSD is also excellent for snapshots, but ZFS is not so great on GNU/Linux. Fedora uses BTRFS by default but doesn't set up the BTRFS subvolumes correctly at install time. Installing them after the fact is a bit complicated and unfriendly etc. I reckon your concise approach to beginner-friendly video tutorial creation would be welcomed by many Arch users who wish to get BTRFS snapshots up and running on Arch as well as other distros with the minimum of effort. I'll try to keep the cheat sheet as small and friendly as possible. BRB
I read about BTRFS and subvolumes on the Arch Wiki. Seems kind of complicated. Like you mentioned, it's good for snapshots. Oddly, I never used Timeshift or snapshots because I can easily do a new install using my post install script and all my personal stuff is backed up on external devices. If an update causes a problem, I just downgrade the offending app. Using the Arch install script, I installed a VM with BTRFS and subvolumes. It's just a base install with root, no user, apps, window managers, or desktops. When I do lsblk, I can see the subvolumes. That's as far as I got when my wife called me for dinner. Now, I'm off to my 9 to 5 day job. Cheers!