Darktide's use of the bolter is one of my favorite examples of just how uncontrollable the bolter truly is in human hands. Even with a considerably smaller version, you can see every time the bolter is fired it looks like it's about to be thrown over the veteran's shoulder or how much of a struggle it is to reload it during a firefight due to its sheer G I R T H .
Correction: Throughout the Great Crusade, and the Horus Heresy, the Astartes legions made use of the Phobos pattern boltgun as their standard issue service weapon. THAT one was .70cal. The Astartes-grade Godwyn pattern, was stepped up to .75, and the MKII Cawl pattern series inherited this caliber. And occasionally, Astartes during the Crusade and Heresy would make use of the Umbra-Ferrox pattern, chambered for a smaller caliber than the Phobos, firing non-explosive rounds which would impart overall less destruction on each target, but had increased penetrating power due to their solid heavy metal cores.
Spectacular breakdown with great visuals! The fact that it reaches its maximum kinetic energy and armor penetrating potential at a certain distance also acts as a clever in-universe explanation as to why chainswords and thunder hammers are a viable option; if an astartes gets too close, a bolter won't be able to pierce his armor, so your only remaining option is to engage in glorious melee!
No combi bolters are typically two weapons in one often time combi bolters feature either under slung needle rifle snipers or miniature plasma and verrrrryyy rarely volkite weaponry
@marcdman6229 no, thats just combi weapons. The boltor is a given, so when you have a combi-volkite or a combi-melta it's a boltor with either attached. Just check the lexicanum.
You are thinking of "twin-linked" Bolters where they are indeed two bolters in a chasis but the Storm bolter is mechanically the same just the frame has a unified trigger mechanism rather than two side by side with a jerry rigged single trigger. The storm bolter also has a shorter barrel as it's more for room clearing or ship boarding actions where you don't really need to aim to hit much. Combi weapons are typically two different weapons like an under slung nade launcher in real life it can be a plasma gun or flamer and in some cases even a melta gun which is bonkers to think of an under slung anti-tank weapon but it is a space marine so chances are he could need it. In lore more than once storm bolter and twin-linked bolter have been used as though they were same thing as well as used as though they were two different types of weapons but in 7th they were shown to be different though I doubt it matters much as they are all being phased out for the primaris stuff sadly.... Storm bolters are fun.
@@taliawtf6944 nope, he's right. Storm bolters are double-barrelled bolter with a single magazine feed. Combi-bolter also includes the rougher combination of two bolters into one weapon.
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Wow what a good Warhammer channel. It feels like watching documentarys about past engagements, technologies and characters of the Warhammer universe. Please keep up with the great videos 👍👍.
god I love your works, the clean monochrome and simple colors are spot on, and the anecdotes add a real sense of tangibility and humanity (superhumanity? mutanity?) to what is otherwise an encyclopedic piece
It has been a while since I subbed to a Warhammer 40K channel, most of the new ones are AI regurgitating the same lore. I like this though, short, concise but clearly a lot of effort has gone into it, nice one dude!
0:12 I think you forgot to swap the primaris helmet for the old helmet. It's kinda weird because he does have the correct horus heresy chest piece with the straps, and at the beginning, you can see one with the aquila, so clearly there was some modification. Also, a storm bolter is not just two bolters strapped together, that would be the the combi bolter. A storm bolter has much more extensive modifications. Edit: Never mind, you use the same helmet in the entire video Edit2: On second thought, that might just be the mark 4 Maximus armour that has the same looking helmet. Compleatly forgot about that one.
I hardly know enough lore to comment on the various types of sm armor, but wasn't there a brief period where space marines were supposed to universally receive armor with respective helmets similar (but not the same) as modern day primaris helmets?
@@therealw04 Yeah, the mark 4 maximumus armour has the same looking helmet as the primaris armour. I admit I forgot about about it and it definitly could be that. Also, not really related to this, but a lot of the time the armout was heavily modified, with the helmets being swapped around a bunch, not to mention that legions often had their own helmet type.
Can't wait to see where you go man, I love seeing moments from the Heresy being portrayed. I would love to see something on the Great Siege of Lesser Damantyne at some point. Dantioch deserves some love.
Hey I do love the video but the armor is kinda bugging me. I should be Mk lll, IV, V or VI and not Mark X which would be used way after the Horus Heresy for Primaris Marines not Horus Heresy-era marines.
I came looking for this comment. It has the MkX Tacticus backback. Also, the face mask is vertical, when it should be more sloped. Subtle, but irksome.
Don’t wholly agree with the emperor being its designer as it is evidently a STC design. Bolters are weapon left behind from the age of tech and can could be found on other worlds during the great crusade. Eg: Caliban and the Orijan Technocracy.
He's not, when horus met the Auretian Technocracy they had power armour and bolters, big E probably sized it up but the originals was for baseline humans not the otherway around.
I created a Godwyn Pattern Bolter model in Blender and 3D-printed it at a 1:1 scale for someone who does Warhammer 40K cosplay. The bolter was so large that I had to print it in nine separate parts. The printing process took a total of 250 hours and used two spools of filament. After sanding and painting it, I was really pleased with the final result. I earned $500 from this project, and it has inspired me to consider starting an online store that sells cosplay props for Warhammer 40K.
>MKX helmet/backpack >Godwyn pattern bolter used in HH I encourage you to make more of the analysis videos but your info is getting tossed up, brother. I hope you can get access to more accurate models (and lore references) in the future.
Also, as much as I like the old bolt guns, the Godwyn is punished by the age-old "British people not knowing how guns work" since even the chamber/ejection port doesn't line up with the barrel. Still a classic gun, though, physics/engineering be darned.
people calling bolters minitature grenade/rocket launcher never sits right with me, i rather compare them to ww2 era antitank guns, except fully automatic and handholdable (by astartes but still) AND used for normal anti-infantry warfare. Sure theyd rather see a multi-las or two staffed by guardsmen mow down an enemy horde, but an astartes would still manage aswell. For the sheer shrapnel effect that these bolt rounds cause to the human body, as morbid as it is. Either way, wonderful video, cant wait for more. Nice narration, animation, informative but no lore dump either. Keep em coming !
DoW II has one of the best bolter sounds. I rank bolter fire sounds from various media as follows: Ultramarines movie (yeah it's sh but the sound design was really good), DoW II, Astartes fan animation, Inquisition Daemonhunters, and Space Hulk Deathwing. I really do not like both SM 1 and 2 bolter sounds.
Combi-bolters were made to be used alongside Terminator armour, since the stronger servos in that, alongside the increased difficulty the wearer has with easily reloading makes a larger capacity gun with doubled firing capacity the perfect match.
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I felt if I wanted a bolter I'd go ak shotgun with the cheap 20rnd drums. Are shotguns fun to shoot? My shoulder says no. Looks nice but it's too much work, like the girls I date.😊 may slaanesh give you blessings. That inquisitor chick with the crossbow bolter...greyfax
It is deuterium because it is a fusion bomb, and it is depleted so it has impurities, which is most likely regular hydrogen. So it is not a strong fusion bomb, but still an explosive tip. How? No idea, I guess the same way fusion grenades work in other fiction.
Depleted Deuterium, lmao. It gets me every time. Some fool wrote that, and everyone reads it in full seriousness. My guys, Deuterium is Hydrogen isotope. Depleted means it is not isotipe anymore, so just plain Hydrogen. Hydrogen is the most light element in periodic table, and most common gas in universe. Stop reading depleted Deuterium. Get some help.
lol and the 40k Fandom/Wikia page for bolter has long censored the use of the phrases "depleted deuterium" and "deuterium core" and does not replace them with uranium or any other element
The way the bolter works and the way it is portrayed are very at odds with each other. A 19mm rocket assisted round would not only look smaller then that, but the recoil would be lower then a conventional 20mm AMR; which while it would suck is hardly unusable by normal humans if given a proper stock.
Ah but they don't usually have a stock now do they? Honestly I don't really subscribe to the "it'll break your body" recoil explanation. Not when "The holy bolter is reserved for His Angels" is plenty enough reason why humans don't get to use them.
what really confuses me is both human and astartes bolters are chambered in .75 caliber which is almost identical to shotgun shells, and have multiple ammunition types, I think one of the only games that nails bolters realistically and quite well would be wh40k darktide, other games seem to treat the bolter as just a normal rifle with comically large ammo, than 12 gauge high explosive round weapons.
Human-sized bolters fire smaller .50 cal bolts. And the portrayal would depend on who's using it against what, wouldn't it? Because at Astartes scale against Tyranids, yeah it's just a standard rifle. In Darktide, you're a human fighting other humans. Yeah it'll be a devastating weapon. But drop an Astartes in that situation and it'll be laughable in comparison.
@@SeanCrosser dawg they arent that was like only one rare bolter variant, not to mention in-game space marine 2 guardsmen can one shot most tyranids with las guns while starters bolters require 3-4 shots on the average tyranid every bolter is chambered in .75 caliber, and wh40k darktide gets bolters right
you know whats sad? the fact that we are in 2024 and reaching 2025, no one has ever made an actual functioning bolt gun. Yet an AK 50 can be made, not to mention with how much understanding we have and diagram of the bolter rounds itself. Not even a prototype is built. I'm sad.
In summary, bolts guns r just litteraly anti tank guns converted into a hand gun with actual APHE rounds in it, shooting it will probably NOT lead to a dislocated arm😭
As much as I adore 40K, it can be difficult to suspend disbelief at the creative team's grasp of the physics of ballistics at times. Please don't think this is a criticism lodged towards you, @FriendlyNighthaunter, I'm happy to see you put out another video so quickly!
We already have the tech for all this. We can make a bolter round, but it's not cheap or simple. Look at the Mk19 grenade launcher, look at the old gyrojet gun.
Realistically speaking, it's an incredibly bad weapon. The primary means of damage is the explosive charge. This means that the velocity of the projectile is completely irrelevant when it comes to killing. AKA, it's "rocket propelled" for no reason, basically being 1000x more expensive and complicated to manufacture. If armor penetration is desired, you make it a tandem warhead projectile which can defeat far thicker armor. Once you remove all the unnecessary rocket fuel and make it a regular bullet, you have the means to either drastically shrink it or fill all the fuel payload with explosives, making them 5-10 times more deadly.
It's not meant to be the best at anything. It's neither meant to pierce through everything, nor is it meant to blow up everything. The standard bolt round is just a good all-rounder, SAPHE, rocket-assisted projectile. They have AP bolt variants, they have better explosive bolt variants, air-bursting ones, acid-filled ones, napalm-filled ones. But the standard bolt round is just that: a standard, decently performing round for most applications.
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Sisters wear power armor also, but they lack the black carapace to truly make it functional . Yes sisters can carry Heavy bolters, modified Guard versions, but a regular bolter is too big in scale to be wielded effectively, Remember a 8 foot tall Marine with out armor is a much larger scale than a say a Sister who is 5,10. The Godwin Diaz version is human scaled so sisters, commissars, inquisitors ect...can use them
I'm confused why are their rules in place to prevent normal humans from using bolters when they literally are physically incapable of using the damn thing?
It's like how back in the day, a commoner or peasant couldn't hunt deer because it was their lords property. Space marines are also called lords by regular infantry in 40k, and a lower rank battle brother out ranks a regular infantry commander due to their title.
A lot of the lore for bolters simply couldn't be true due to reality: 1. The recognition system in bolters wouldn't ever work since power-armored marines fully encase their hands in combat gloves or powerfists. Only scouts could make use of this feature, preventing "grown-up" marines from using bolters meant for scouts. 2. The camera on bolters could be easily disabled en mass by the enemy by using even 20th century EW systems, forcing all space marines in the field to aim through their shitty back-up iron sights. 3. Bolters wouldn't really cripple you if you were to fire them, even one handed. We, modern day humans, have made much more powerful guns than bolters, that are also substantially lighter than a bolter, which can be shoulder-fired without endangering the operator's health at all (like WWII anti-tank rifles, which *can* be shoulder-fired, even if you wouldn't want to). On top of that, a substantial portion of the energy from a discharge comes from the gyrojet inside each bolt round, which would prevent some recoil as that acceleration happens outside of the barrel of the gun. Couple that with the fact that the bolter is massive and has an equally massive muzzle brake (or similar muzzle device), which would also make recoil a lot more manageable. 4. The hardened "adamantium" tip on every bolt round, meant for increased penetration, would simply sink into the rest of the bolt when it hits a target, even a soft one. In real-life armor piercing projectiles, the internal penetrator is typically almost the entire length of the projectile itself. When striking the target, the softer outer shell of the projectile shears off to the sides while the narrower, super-dense penetrator (often made of steel in small arms, or turngsten or DU in larger guns) burrows deep into the target. 5. Disregarding what I just said, if the bolt needs to have both an explosive mass and a gyrojet propeller, then either both the detonation and propulsion would be absolutely puny for such a tiny shell, or the bolt round would need to be about three times as long to achieve the desired effect. Also, forget about penetration - there's a reason modern tanks no longer fire projectiles that explode after penetrating: the amount of explosives you can cram into a shell that needs to be dense and rigid enough to pierce armor is laughable. Modern tanks simply fire APFSDS rounds, which, though inert, penetrate the target at such speeds that the armor itself becomes a cloud of tiny, incandescentl fragments within the hull, which can turn humans into paste before the penetrator has even had time to come out the other side. Basically: penetrators to kill anything inside the armor; explosives to kill anything outside the armor. 6. The bolter used by the new Primaris is as stupid as the Primaris themselves. All the attachments would be completely useless since the the bolt rifle still has a camera and no stock to get a firm stance on any sights. The sensors and targeting computers inside space marine helmets already provide them with much more than any bolt-on could add (considering nobody uses EW systems in 40k). Another thing is that the increase in range for the longer barrel is completely superfluous since marines often fight in extreme close quarters combat and because standard bolters already provide much more range than is needed, thanks to the gyrojets. Also, the name "bolt rifle" just makes it seem like they are supposed to be "bolt action rifles," which they aren't at all; they are astartes-sized, select-fire assault rifles (I'd call them "battle rifles" if they used a full powered cartridge, but that's what the heavy bolter uses, meaning standard bolter rounds are intermediate calibre cartridges, and those used in bolt pistols and bolters made for regular humans can be probably considered to be handgun ammo).
Bolt pistols, carbines, rifles, and Storm Bolters all use .75, Heavy Bolters use .998 Also I would assume the Black Carapace, ceramite shell, and the bolt weapon all cooperate with each other And T'au is notorious for using electronic attacks, which at one point disabled all SM helmets and making them liabilities forcing the wearers to take them off and be very vulnerable to pulse shots
@eyeballpapercut4400 What I don't understand about bolt pistols is: why can humans use those but not full size bolters? Absorbing the supposedly maiming recoil of the .75 round from a tiny pistol would surely only make things worse! My headcanon is that SM officers use .75 versions of the bolt pistol, to make logistics easier and because they want the better performance from using a pistol over a bolter in melees, but regular humans use a toned-down version of the round, making Sororitas bolters and Astra Militarum bolt pistols into a sort of PDW from the perspective of a Marine. Also, I appreciate that GW made EW and it's consequences canon, but why did it have to be with the Tau? Those guys make everything so lame! It'd be way cooler if the forces of Chaos had done that, through possessing the machine spirits in the Marines' helmets with malignant warp magic, making them see things that aren't actually there or something like that. The Necrons, the Eldar or even the Orks or the Tyranids would have had a more interesting way of replicating the effects of EW without defaulting to modern day technology. The Tau are so boring and unoriginal it's not even funny. Also, on an non-serious note, Space Marine heroes are often depicted without their helmets on, so maybe the fact that the Marines had to take them off during that battle didn't change things too drastically xD.
75 cal is less then the 787 of 20mm rounds and 988 is a 25mm round or really closer to genades since even a space marine would suffer from a regular 25mm auto cannon round
@@lordtomlluckrahthegreat9014 human-scale bolt pistols use .50 cal bolt rounds, and they're usually issued to Commissars or other officers. Not your basic line troops
The censorship at 0:40 sucks and pulls you out of the video. You could have animated that better just on the model, instead of throwing a mosaic at your problems.
Warhammer 40K is really interesting and this is a great channel. However, certain things such as the oversized shoulder pauldron armor that completely limits mobility doesn’t make sense. If you watch newer adaptations of space marines, such as the Amazon Secret Level episode / space marine 2, you will see that they have made the shoulder pauldron armor smaller. I understand this is supposed to be the future, but the bolter doesn’t make any sense either. Look at a modern carbine / rifle and you’ll see a charging handle so you can send the BCG forward / a bolt catch or bolt release so you can load the weapon efficiently. There doesn’t appear to be any option for that on these bolters. So a right handed space marine is going to reach over with his left hand and finishing loading the weapon after inserting a magazine? Or even worse, have to take his right hand off the pistol grip and do everything with his right hand while holding the bolter with his left hand? Also, if Space Marines are supposed to be as massive as they are made out to be: how are they supposed to get their finger in that tiny trigger guard? Hip fire and no butt stock? OK I guess since they have a HUD in their helmet connected to the bolter…however if space marines are operating in such dangerous environments, they probably should have a back up sighting system…which would require shouldering the weapon. At least we have some kind of optic on the new version bolter. Finally, Space Marine infantry tactics don’t make sense. I understand they are essentially walking tanks and have some of the best PPE / armor available. However, what happens when they are fighting a faction with the weapons that can penetrate their armor? Cover, concealment, and small unit tactics don’t seem to be a thing: space marines just get in a line or form a random mob around their standard bearer…sure I guess if you’re only fighting factions that don’t have any sort of ranged weapon capability? Can’t say it enough I really think Warhammer 40K is interesting and I understand it is fictional: but folks at GW: maybe talk to someone with firearms and tactics experience before you just throw something out there? Great channel though and I hope you make a video on space marine tactics and answer some of these questions.
You have a lot of misconceptions about things. Like, for one, they're not just standing there taking hits, for one. Space marines move quite quickly, and they do utilise tactics and not just march in a line towards the enemy. The main thing is that you should understand that you should be finding ways to explain why things work and make sense, because things are how they are, because of how they are, not despite it. Firstborn pauldrons being too big? They're motorised and can adjust their position. Bolter charging handles? There are hundreds if not thousands of patterns of bolters. Some have charging handles on the left, some on the right, some might not have it at all. Plus Astartes are drilled and practice with the weapon enough so that whatever the gun's controls are like does not impede in their efficiency with it. Boom. It's easier to enjoy things when the 2.5m tall slabs of meat wearing a fridge and firing miniature rockets when you just accept that it's gonna be at least 50% goofy.
@ Boom? More like a fizzle. The only person with misconceptions about anything (and likely everything) is you. It doesn’t matter if the pauldrons are motorized, do you understand how human anatomy works? The answer is no. You can’t be efficient at anything if you can only move your arm from 180 to 90°, if you move those massive pauldrons in any direction, it is going to impede the Space Marine another way. So that doesn’t make any sense. Space Marines having no tactics is completely valid because every adaptation shows them not using cover / concealment or SUT. They just walk in a line towards the enemy. Look at Amazon Secret Level. Do you know anything about firearms? The answer is no because you very clearly have no proficiency with firearms. That was a feeble attempt at coming up with an answer that you know is nonsense. “Well space me just practice a lot.” That doesn’t make any sense either because if the controls aren’t there for them to be efficient with in the first place then it doesn’t matter how much a Space Marine practices with it. Elite troops are required to have the best training and equipment to be effective at their mission. Go back to your parent’s basement and let the adults talk.
They use casings because is a two-stage propel projectile one charge to get it out of the barrel the other to propel it to their target with more force
You should have gone for the actual calculations of how powerful bolter it is.....your own calculation what ever you feel fitting ...also since you are into visuals ofc how about a debate about the bolt round size? 0 75 seems small for the artwork and models we often see....a bolt round could be bigger than a 40mm gernade and still dont make the bolter look ridiculously large
I own a bolter for home defense since that's what the Emperor of Mankind intended
4 Heretics break into my Fortress Monastery
3 chaos cultists break into my domicile. "What the emperor?"
It shouldn't matter what type of bolter rounds I own.
The emperor expects all humans to be proficient in the operation of firearms.
@@applepiepieapple5464as i grab my cawl patten bolt rifle and mark 10 tatictus power armor helmet
Thank you for not using the AI and actually doing the VO yourself. Liked and subbed. Keep up the good work!
Darktide's use of the bolter is one of my favorite examples of just how uncontrollable the bolter truly is in human hands. Even with a considerably smaller version, you can see every time the bolter is fired it looks like it's about to be thrown over the veteran's shoulder or how much of a struggle it is to reload it during a firefight due to its sheer G I R T H .
The smaller bolters are essentially .50 cal handheld "rifles". It's a miracle normal people can even use them.
Correction: Throughout the Great Crusade, and the Horus Heresy, the Astartes legions made use of the Phobos pattern boltgun as their standard issue service weapon. THAT one was .70cal. The Astartes-grade Godwyn pattern, was stepped up to .75, and the MKII Cawl pattern series inherited this caliber. And occasionally, Astartes during the Crusade and Heresy would make use of the Umbra-Ferrox pattern, chambered for a smaller caliber than the Phobos, firing non-explosive rounds which would impart overall less destruction on each target, but had increased penetrating power due to their solid heavy metal cores.
How the hell do you make such high-quality content with such little appreciation for what you do? I really admire your dedication, man.
These animations and voiceovers are priceless. You my friend are one of a kind. Not like those AI people who reuse other people's content.
Spectacular breakdown with great visuals! The fact that it reaches its maximum kinetic energy and armor penetrating potential at a certain distance also acts as a clever in-universe explanation as to why chainswords and thunder hammers are a viable option; if an astartes gets too close, a bolter won't be able to pierce his armor, so your only remaining option is to engage in glorious melee!
The Battle of Gaduaré demonstrate how horrific and deadly bolters were.
Also, really good video!
3:39 that's combi bolters. Storm boltors are made from the get go as a double barreled version, not slapped together like the first ones.
No combi bolters are typically two weapons in one often time combi bolters feature either under slung needle rifle snipers or miniature plasma and verrrrryyy rarely volkite weaponry
@marcdman6229 no, thats just combi weapons. The boltor is a given, so when you have a combi-volkite or a combi-melta it's a boltor with either attached. Just check the lexicanum.
You are thinking of "twin-linked" Bolters where they are indeed two bolters in a chasis but the Storm bolter is mechanically the same just the frame has a unified trigger mechanism rather than two side by side with a jerry rigged single trigger. The storm bolter also has a shorter barrel as it's more for room clearing or ship boarding actions where you don't really need to aim to hit much. Combi weapons are typically two different weapons like an under slung nade launcher in real life it can be a plasma gun or flamer and in some cases even a melta gun which is bonkers to think of an under slung anti-tank weapon but it is a space marine so chances are he could need it. In lore more than once storm bolter and twin-linked bolter have been used as though they were same thing as well as used as though they were two different types of weapons but in 7th they were shown to be different though I doubt it matters much as they are all being phased out for the primaris stuff sadly.... Storm bolters are fun.
@@taliawtf6944 nope, he's right. Storm bolters are double-barrelled bolter with a single magazine feed. Combi-bolter also includes the rougher combination of two bolters into one weapon.
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I really do appreciate with the folks from the Adeptus Mechanicus take the time to put together instructional videos like this one so my simple civilian brain can learn things better. Glory to Emperor and Praise be to the Omnissiah
Just found you after the Fulgrim Assassination video, now Istvaan?! Hell yeah brother!
Wow what a good Warhammer channel. It feels like watching documentarys about past engagements, technologies and characters of the Warhammer universe. Please keep up with the great videos 👍👍.
god I love your works, the clean monochrome and simple colors are spot on, and the anecdotes add a real sense of tangibility and humanity (superhumanity? mutanity?) to what is otherwise an encyclopedic piece
It has been a while since I subbed to a Warhammer 40K channel, most of the new ones are AI regurgitating the same lore. I like this though, short, concise but clearly a lot of effort has gone into it, nice one dude!
Just wanted to let you know that youve become my favorite 40k channel i love these videos and the cool style you use
Cant wait to see this channel blow up. No one is doing WH content like this
Hey, night haunter I really love your video essays and the visuals explaining it makes me feel like rediscovering 40K all over again. Thank you
0:12 I think you forgot to swap the primaris helmet for the old helmet. It's kinda weird because he does have the correct horus heresy chest piece with the straps, and at the beginning, you can see one with the aquila, so clearly there was some modification.
Also, a storm bolter is not just two bolters strapped together, that would be the the combi bolter. A storm bolter has much more extensive modifications.
Edit: Never mind, you use the same helmet in the entire video
Edit2: On second thought, that might just be the mark 4 Maximus armour that has the same looking helmet. Compleatly forgot about that one.
I hardly know enough lore to comment on the various types of sm armor, but wasn't there a brief period where space marines were supposed to universally receive armor with respective helmets similar (but not the same) as modern day primaris helmets?
@@therealw04 Yeah, the mark 4 maximumus armour has the same looking helmet as the primaris armour. I admit I forgot about about it and it definitly could be that.
Also, not really related to this, but a lot of the time the armout was heavily modified, with the helmets being swapped around a bunch, not to mention that legions often had their own helmet type.
Nice work dude! The effort you put into this is clear to see and I can't wait to see what you do next!
Can't wait to see where you go man, I love seeing moments from the Heresy being portrayed. I would love to see something on the Great Siege of Lesser Damantyne at some point. Dantioch deserves some love.
Damn my man, your subs are skyrocketing! Congratulations on everything you've accomplished man! Great content 😊
Hey I do love the video but the armor is kinda bugging me. I should be Mk lll, IV, V or VI and not Mark X which would be used way after the Horus Heresy for Primaris Marines not Horus Heresy-era marines.
Wonderful visuals, good quote from the Iron 4th
The MK IV armor in the intro has the wrong backpack.
I came looking for this comment. It has the MkX Tacticus backback. Also, the face mask is vertical, when it should be more sloped. Subtle, but irksome.
I'm glad I'm not the only mega nerd here. If its IW, give them Crusade armor.
Was about to comment this
Phobos Bolter came first actually, but, still cool
And umbra came after phobos, godwyn is one of the most recent patterns
and most before Godwyn do not use .75
Don’t wholly agree with the emperor being its designer as it is evidently a STC design. Bolters are weapon left behind from the age of tech and can could be found on other worlds during the great crusade. Eg: Caliban and the Orijan Technocracy.
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He's not, when horus met the Auretian Technocracy they had power armour and bolters, big E probably sized it up but the originals was for baseline humans not the otherway around.
I created a Godwyn Pattern Bolter model in Blender and 3D-printed it at a 1:1 scale for someone who does Warhammer 40K cosplay. The bolter was so large that I had to print it in nine separate parts. The printing process took a total of 250 hours and used two spools of filament. After sanding and painting it, I was really pleased with the final result. I earned $500 from this project, and it has inspired me to consider starting an online store that sells cosplay props for Warhammer 40K.
what about phobos umbra and tigris pattern bolters?
weren't they first?
i love the style of these
This is incredible, you are incredible, keep up the good work. The Emperor protects!
Subscribed so fast after the Fulgrim video! Keep working hard man!!
You cool 3d animator!Never stop
Amazing work man!
I really hate the silhouette of the new bolters. It’s a small thing, but it just isn’t the same as the classic design
Yeah. I understand the logic of making the longer-barrelled bolter be standard issue... I just like the more compact-looking Godwyn much more.
>MKX helmet/backpack
>Godwyn pattern bolter used in HH
I encourage you to make more of the analysis videos but your info is getting tossed up, brother. I hope you can get access to more accurate models (and lore references) in the future.
Also, as much as I like the old bolt guns, the Godwyn is punished by the age-old "British people not knowing how guns work" since even the chamber/ejection port doesn't line up with the barrel. Still a classic gun, though, physics/engineering be darned.
people calling bolters minitature grenade/rocket launcher never sits right with me, i rather compare them to ww2 era antitank guns, except fully automatic and handholdable (by astartes but still) AND used for normal anti-infantry warfare. Sure theyd rather see a multi-las or two staffed by guardsmen mow down an enemy horde, but an astartes would still manage aswell. For the sheer shrapnel effect that these bolt rounds cause to the human body, as morbid as it is.
Either way, wonderful video, cant wait for more. Nice narration, animation, informative but no lore dump either. Keep em coming !
DoW II has one of the best bolter sounds.
I rank bolter fire sounds from various media as follows: Ultramarines movie (yeah it's sh but the sound design was really good), DoW II, Astartes fan animation, Inquisition Daemonhunters, and Space Hulk Deathwing. I really do not like both SM 1 and 2 bolter sounds.
This dude deserves a Dimond play button already ❤
love this vid but those intro astartes shouldn't be primarus
it might be mark4
Those aren't Primaris tho. I know they got the Maximus face plate angle wrong but the chest plate is correct.
this was awesome.
I kind hope you do more long form content in the future, maybe like a series where you read the books?
Leaving a comment before this channel goes big.
Yeah, your comment is only gonna increase in value over time.
This is good, nice job
is there any chance you gonna do a detailed breakdown for the Imperial Lasgun or Hotshot Lasguns?
Awesome dude, can't wait for the Istvaan video
3:40
Alright, 1 bolt gun's fire power isn't enough for this mission.
What if we strap another bolt gun to that bolt gun?
You're a genius!
Combi-bolters were made to be used alongside Terminator armour, since the stronger servos in that, alongside the increased difficulty the wearer has with easily reloading makes a larger capacity gun with doubled firing capacity the perfect match.
Well actually that is the wrong armour, canonically iron warriors would use the heavy duty mkIII armour
New lore says all legions had everything from MkII-VI.
Great video bro
the horse heresy
During the Horus heresy the Phobos pattern Bolter was the most common
1:42 Well consider this son of Corax foreboded, forewarned and foreshadowed Mr. Nighthaunter. Can't wait to be miserable next week as you break down and discuss The Bad Times on The Place With Black Sand That We Don't Talk About Or Name.
Edit: Also consider me subscribed
Can you make video about Abaddon's subterrean assault on saturnine gate?
I felt if I wanted a bolter I'd go ak shotgun with the cheap 20rnd drums. Are shotguns fun to shoot? My shoulder says no. Looks nice but it's too much work, like the girls I date.😊 may slaanesh give you blessings.
That inquisitor chick with the crossbow bolter...greyfax
Fostech Semi Auto Breaching Shotgun is almost a perfect analogue.
@cousinzeke4888 yep that's a bolter for sho. They weren't big sellers though with the hefty $
It is deuterium because it is a fusion bomb, and it is depleted so it has impurities, which is most likely regular hydrogen. So it is not a strong fusion bomb, but still an explosive tip. How? No idea, I guess the same way fusion grenades work in other fiction.
Depleted Deuterium, lmao. It gets me every time. Some fool wrote that, and everyone reads it in full seriousness. My guys, Deuterium is Hydrogen isotope. Depleted means it is not isotipe anymore, so just plain Hydrogen. Hydrogen is the most light element in periodic table, and most common gas in universe. Stop reading depleted Deuterium. Get some help.
lol and the 40k Fandom/Wikia page for bolter has long censored the use of the phrases "depleted deuterium" and "deuterium core" and does not replace them with uranium or any other element
Well, it's canon so 🤷
@@techa6336 everything is cannon nothing is true lmao
Bro thinks he’s smarter than the God Emperor of Mankind
The least dumb and brainwashed heretic right here
You need to make more videos like this.
Amazing 🤩
Dude. KILLER content. I hope you go far.
Any lore on how much it costs to produce bolter rounds?
What about the darktide bolters? They are completely different from the godwyn pattern and the rejects can use it pretty effectively
Smaller version chambered in .50 caliber. They do make bolters for mortal use
The way the bolter works and the way it is portrayed are very at odds with each other. A 19mm rocket assisted round would not only look smaller then that, but the recoil would be lower then a conventional 20mm AMR; which while it would suck is hardly unusable by normal humans if given a proper stock.
Ah but they don't usually have a stock now do they? Honestly I don't really subscribe to the "it'll break your body" recoil explanation. Not when "The holy bolter is reserved for His Angels" is plenty enough reason why humans don't get to use them.
Make a bolter a bipod mounted squad support weapon and have two child-Whitesheilds operate it
What about the heavy bolter for the sisters?
Big bolter carried by power-armoured humans.
what really confuses me is both human and astartes bolters are chambered in .75 caliber which is almost identical to shotgun shells, and have multiple ammunition types, I think one of the only games that nails bolters realistically and quite well would be wh40k darktide, other games seem to treat the bolter as just a normal rifle with comically large ammo, than 12 gauge high explosive round weapons.
Human-sized bolters fire smaller .50 cal bolts. And the portrayal would depend on who's using it against what, wouldn't it? Because at Astartes scale against Tyranids, yeah it's just a standard rifle. In Darktide, you're a human fighting other humans. Yeah it'll be a devastating weapon. But drop an Astartes in that situation and it'll be laughable in comparison.
@@SeanCrosser dawg they arent that was like only one rare bolter variant, not to mention in-game space marine 2 guardsmen can one shot most tyranids with las guns while starters bolters require 3-4 shots on the average tyranid
every bolter is chambered in .75 caliber, and wh40k darktide gets bolters right
Just as the God Emperor intended
It would be very cool if you put a mechanicus voice effects on your voice.
Alt+f4, the weapon
you know whats sad? the fact that we are in 2024 and reaching 2025, no one has ever made an actual functioning bolt gun. Yet an AK 50 can be made, not to mention with how much understanding we have and diagram of the bolter rounds itself. Not even a prototype is built.
I'm sad.
How long does it take you each time?
Last one was 40+ hours, this one was 30-ish.
In summary, bolts guns r just litteraly anti tank guns converted into a hand gun with actual APHE rounds in it, shooting it will probably NOT lead to a dislocated arm😭
I know it's not video creator's fault but dear lord, depleted deuterium...
Just as our Lord God Emperor intended.
Can you believe it guys? Istvaan III, just a week away
boyyy WHY you using a mix of primaris and mark 4
why is it so thick, i feel like it would be less useful and democratic with the extra weight
All the better to protect Super Earth with!
Love the animation. Could we get colours to some of the models though?
As much as I adore 40K, it can be difficult to suspend disbelief at the creative team's grasp of the physics of ballistics at times. Please don't think this is a criticism lodged towards you, @FriendlyNighthaunter, I'm happy to see you put out another video so quickly!
We already have the tech for all this. We can make a bolter round, but it's not cheap or simple. Look at the Mk19 grenade launcher, look at the old gyrojet gun.
@tarektechmarine8209 You and I are not in disagreement on anything you listed, I had more misapplication and deployment of ordnance by SMs on my mind.
It's 80s action scifi, it's not gonna be perfect.
Realistically speaking, it's an incredibly bad weapon. The primary means of damage is the explosive charge. This means that the velocity of the projectile is completely irrelevant when it comes to killing. AKA, it's "rocket propelled" for no reason, basically being 1000x more expensive and complicated to manufacture.
If armor penetration is desired, you make it a tandem warhead projectile which can defeat far thicker armor. Once you remove all the unnecessary rocket fuel and make it a regular bullet, you have the means to either drastically shrink it or fill all the fuel payload with explosives, making them 5-10 times more deadly.
It's not meant to be the best at anything. It's neither meant to pierce through everything, nor is it meant to blow up everything. The standard bolt round is just a good all-rounder, SAPHE, rocket-assisted projectile.
They have AP bolt variants, they have better explosive bolt variants, air-bursting ones, acid-filled ones, napalm-filled ones. But the standard bolt round is just that: a standard, decently performing round for most applications.
2 attacks and Strenght 4, take it or leave it
idk shit abt wh40k but i was autistically enthralled by ur assassination breakdown video so im a devoted subscriber now. god i adore this animation/art style and direction you've done.
It's a fascinating universe. If you like this you should look up janovich
If a sister of battle can wield a heavy bolter then they can wield a space marine sized boltgun too
Sisters wear power armor also, but they lack the black carapace to truly make it functional . Yes sisters can carry Heavy bolters, modified Guard versions, but a regular bolter is too big in scale to be wielded effectively, Remember a 8 foot tall Marine with out armor is a much larger scale than a say a Sister who is 5,10. The Godwin Diaz version is human scaled so sisters, commissars, inquisitors ect...can use them
Can Chaos just Order 66 the Primaris and get rid of Cawl.....
meanwhile they have 1 damage on the tabletop ☹
4:08 thats not how that works but okay
Absolut quality content! Keeo it up!
This is so peak Wth
Brother
I'm confused why are their rules in place to prevent normal humans from using bolters when they literally are physically incapable of using the damn thing?
It's like how back in the day, a commoner or peasant couldn't hunt deer because it was their lords property. Space marines are also called lords by regular infantry in 40k, and a lower rank battle brother out ranks a regular infantry commander due to their title.
Like how only knights could have horses or samurai use a katana, its a prestige thing.
Being caught in possession of a single bolt round can have you punished. You have to remember that the imperium is partly a theocracy
A lot of the lore for bolters simply couldn't be true due to reality:
1. The recognition system in bolters wouldn't ever work since power-armored marines fully encase their hands in combat gloves or powerfists. Only scouts could make use of this feature, preventing "grown-up" marines from using bolters meant for scouts.
2. The camera on bolters could be easily disabled en mass by the enemy by using even 20th century EW systems, forcing all space marines in the field to aim through their shitty back-up iron sights.
3. Bolters wouldn't really cripple you if you were to fire them, even one handed. We, modern day humans, have made much more powerful guns than bolters, that are also substantially lighter than a bolter, which can be shoulder-fired without endangering the operator's health at all (like WWII anti-tank rifles, which *can* be shoulder-fired, even if you wouldn't want to). On top of that, a substantial portion of the energy from a discharge comes from the gyrojet inside each bolt round, which would prevent some recoil as that acceleration happens outside of the barrel of the gun. Couple that with the fact that the bolter is massive and has an equally massive muzzle brake (or similar muzzle device), which would also make recoil a lot more manageable.
4. The hardened "adamantium" tip on every bolt round, meant for increased penetration, would simply sink into the rest of the bolt when it hits a target, even a soft one. In real-life armor piercing projectiles, the internal penetrator is typically almost the entire length of the projectile itself. When striking the target, the softer outer shell of the projectile shears off to the sides while the narrower, super-dense penetrator (often made of steel in small arms, or turngsten or DU in larger guns) burrows deep into the target.
5. Disregarding what I just said, if the bolt needs to have both an explosive mass and a gyrojet propeller, then either both the detonation and propulsion would be absolutely puny for such a tiny shell, or the bolt round would need to be about three times as long to achieve the desired effect. Also, forget about penetration - there's a reason modern tanks no longer fire projectiles that explode after penetrating: the amount of explosives you can cram into a shell that needs to be dense and rigid enough to pierce armor is laughable. Modern tanks simply fire APFSDS rounds, which, though inert, penetrate the target at such speeds that the armor itself becomes a cloud of tiny, incandescentl fragments within the hull, which can turn humans into paste before the penetrator has even had time to come out the other side. Basically: penetrators to kill anything inside the armor; explosives to kill anything outside the armor.
6. The bolter used by the new Primaris is as stupid as the Primaris themselves. All the attachments would be completely useless since the the bolt rifle still has a camera and no stock to get a firm stance on any sights. The sensors and targeting computers inside space marine helmets already provide them with much more than any bolt-on could add (considering nobody uses EW systems in 40k). Another thing is that the increase in range for the longer barrel is completely superfluous since marines often fight in extreme close quarters combat and because standard bolters already provide much more range than is needed, thanks to the gyrojets. Also, the name "bolt rifle" just makes it seem like they are supposed to be "bolt action rifles," which they aren't at all; they are astartes-sized, select-fire assault rifles (I'd call them "battle rifles" if they used a full powered cartridge, but that's what the heavy bolter uses, meaning standard bolter rounds are intermediate calibre cartridges, and those used in bolt pistols and bolters made for regular humans can be probably considered to be handgun ammo).
Bolt pistols, carbines, rifles, and Storm Bolters all use .75, Heavy Bolters use .998
Also I would assume the Black Carapace, ceramite shell, and the bolt weapon all cooperate with each other
And T'au is notorious for using electronic attacks, which at one point disabled all SM helmets and making them liabilities forcing the wearers to take them off and be very vulnerable to pulse shots
@eyeballpapercut4400 What I don't understand about bolt pistols is: why can humans use those but not full size bolters? Absorbing the supposedly maiming recoil of the .75 round from a tiny pistol would surely only make things worse! My headcanon is that SM officers use .75 versions of the bolt pistol, to make logistics easier and because they want the better performance from using a pistol over a bolter in melees, but regular humans use a toned-down version of the round, making Sororitas bolters and Astra Militarum bolt pistols into a sort of PDW from the perspective of a Marine.
Also, I appreciate that GW made EW and it's consequences canon, but why did it have to be with the Tau? Those guys make everything so lame! It'd be way cooler if the forces of Chaos had done that, through possessing the machine spirits in the Marines' helmets with malignant warp magic, making them see things that aren't actually there or something like that. The Necrons, the Eldar or even the Orks or the Tyranids would have had a more interesting way of replicating the effects of EW without defaulting to modern day technology. The Tau are so boring and unoriginal it's not even funny.
Also, on an non-serious note, Space Marine heroes are often depicted without their helmets on, so maybe the fact that the Marines had to take them off during that battle didn't change things too drastically xD.
75 cal is less then the 787 of 20mm rounds and 988 is a 25mm round or really closer to genades since even a space marine would suffer from a regular 25mm auto cannon round
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@@lordtomlluckrahthegreat9014 human-scale bolt pistols use .50 cal bolt rounds, and they're usually issued to Commissars or other officers. Not your basic line troops
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The censorship at 0:40 sucks and pulls you out of the video. You could have animated that better just on the model, instead of throwing a mosaic at your problems.
Everyone's a critic nowadays 😬
Warhammer 40K is really interesting and this is a great channel. However, certain things such as the oversized shoulder pauldron armor that completely limits mobility doesn’t make sense. If you watch newer adaptations of space marines, such as the Amazon Secret Level episode / space marine 2, you will see that they have made the shoulder pauldron armor smaller. I understand this is supposed to be the future, but the bolter doesn’t make any sense either. Look at a modern carbine / rifle and you’ll see a charging handle so you can send the BCG forward / a bolt catch or bolt release so you can load the weapon efficiently. There doesn’t appear to be any option for that on these bolters. So a right handed space marine is going to reach over with his left hand and finishing loading the weapon after inserting a magazine? Or even worse, have to take his right hand off the pistol grip and do everything with his right hand while holding the bolter with his left hand? Also, if Space Marines are supposed to be as massive as they are made out to be: how are they supposed to get their finger in that tiny trigger guard? Hip fire and no butt stock? OK I guess since they have a HUD in their helmet connected to the bolter…however if space marines are operating in such dangerous environments, they probably should have a back up sighting system…which would require shouldering the weapon. At least we have some kind of optic on the new version bolter. Finally, Space Marine infantry tactics don’t make sense. I understand they are essentially walking tanks and have some of the best PPE / armor available. However, what happens when they are fighting a faction with the weapons that can penetrate their armor? Cover, concealment, and small unit tactics don’t seem to be a thing: space marines just get in a line or form a random mob around their standard bearer…sure I guess if you’re only fighting factions that don’t have any sort of ranged weapon capability? Can’t say it enough I really think Warhammer 40K is interesting and I understand it is fictional: but folks at GW: maybe talk to someone with firearms and tactics experience before you just throw something out there? Great channel though and I hope you make a video on space marine tactics and answer some of these questions.
You have a lot of misconceptions about things.
Like, for one, they're not just standing there taking hits, for one. Space marines move quite quickly, and they do utilise tactics and not just march in a line towards the enemy.
The main thing is that you should understand that you should be finding ways to explain why things work and make sense, because things are how they are, because of how they are, not despite it. Firstborn pauldrons being too big? They're motorised and can adjust their position. Bolter charging handles? There are hundreds if not thousands of patterns of bolters. Some have charging handles on the left, some on the right, some might not have it at all. Plus Astartes are drilled and practice with the weapon enough so that whatever the gun's controls are like does not impede in their efficiency with it. Boom.
It's easier to enjoy things when the 2.5m tall slabs of meat wearing a fridge and firing miniature rockets when you just accept that it's gonna be at least 50% goofy.
@ Boom? More like a fizzle. The only person with misconceptions about anything (and likely everything) is you.
It doesn’t matter if the pauldrons are motorized, do you understand how human anatomy works? The answer is no. You can’t be efficient at anything if you can only move your arm from 180 to 90°, if you move those massive pauldrons in any direction, it is going to impede the Space Marine another way. So that doesn’t make any sense. Space Marines having no tactics is completely valid because every adaptation shows them not using cover / concealment or SUT. They just walk in a line towards the enemy. Look at Amazon Secret Level. Do you know anything about firearms? The answer is no because you very clearly have no proficiency with firearms. That was a feeble attempt at coming up with an answer that you know is nonsense. “Well space me just practice a lot.” That doesn’t make any sense either because if the controls aren’t there for them to be efficient with in the first place then it doesn’t matter how much a Space Marine practices with it. Elite troops are required to have the best training and equipment to be effective at their mission.
Go back to your parent’s basement and let the adults talk.
Notice there is no empty shell casings being ejected. The bolt is completely self contained. I wish all of the artwork reflected this obvious fact.
They use casings because is a two-stage propel projectile one charge to get it out of the barrel the other to propel it to their target with more force
You should have gone for the actual calculations of how powerful bolter it is.....your own calculation what ever you feel fitting ...also since you are into visuals ofc how about a debate about the bolt round size? 0 75 seems small for the artwork and models we often see....a bolt round could be bigger than a 40mm gernade and still dont make the bolter look ridiculously large
2:35 that is not a Spacemarine, that is a Primaris and Primaris is Cancer
Ok grandpa
Take yer skulls back to the heresy