What if Britain had WON the American Revolution? | American Reacts | (Part 2)
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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As an American I am very glad to be where I am today, but what if that were not the case? Today I am very interested in continuing to learn about what like would be like if Great Britain had won the revolutionary war against America. If you enjoyed the video feel free to leave a comment, like, or subscribe for more!
Most important of all America would have had REAL Cadbury's chocolate!
But there again they did buy it off us so it's now not really the same as it was like adding popcorn and jelly beans to my chocolate thats Americans taste not ours
Well they still can since they bought the factory but then started doing what Americans are good at ruining things that works perfectly fine
The US is the teenager who had a huge fight with Mum and stormed off (probably on a motorcycle) and doesn't come to family dinners or help the family with problems. Canada instead moved into their own place near the family home with Mum's help, kept coming to family dinner every Sunday, helped out when problems arose and eventually grew into their own life as an adult.
Britain abolished slavery before the USA so you probably would not have had slavery at all in this scenario.
We did win but you didn’t realise it ,we got out just in time and left the inmates to run the asylum just ask your Neighbours in Canada 🇨🇦 . I know that Canadians call it the mad house and they remain our cousins
Living in their bubble they don't realize.. but we Canadians came out the unluckiest.. one word says it all - neighbours. (Damn those lucky Aussies, Kiwis and other realms for their distance.)
@@mw-wl2hm Don’t worry every one has neighbours we have the Frogs next door
@@robertlangley1664 Yes, but their culture hasn't impacted your own.(And you don't have to worry about being mistaken for them when travelling.)
@@mw-wl2hm I understand it’s time to wear a small badge on a jacket with the Canadian 🇨🇦 but I do sympathies
I'm working with the rude arrogant toads at the moment, can't wait to get back to ❤better everything❤ and away from their lazy arses. Plus i promise you they hate their kids- rubbish playgrounds and filthy toilets @@robertlangley1664
You consider it a Win, we consider it a Lucky bloody escape. 200+ years and still trying to teach the rest of the world how to suck eggs.
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It's certainly interesting to think about alternative timeliness.
Remember, it was basically Britain vs ex-Pats plus French et al.
So... Basically Brits versus French on both sides of the Atlantic ...at the same time?!
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Another time line would be that WW2 might’ve not happened if the USA lost the revolution. Hitler might’ve been a bit more conservative about doing war because one of the main reasons why Germany didn’t want Japan to attack was to not have the USA in the war. Also another alternate timeline would be that the USA lost but the crown still let them be more autonomous and allow the USA rule itself like more in the way of Canada now.
If you lost the American Revolution you would've had universal healthcare and a better government that helps its people more.
Universal Health Care I agree with but what government are you on about? what have the Tories ever done for the British People?
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Not any side of government...just not the US style where they let corporations take over and they don't protect the people from their exploitation.
I'm Australian and right now I don't particularly like our own two main parties lately...but they do try (not hard enough though) to keep things stable and try to prevent monopolistic big corporations from taking advantage.
The US government just lets those corporations do what they want.
@stevenbalekic5683 don't know much about Australia politics don't really hear much on them but I do have to agree with you on that point.
@@Sankey84GamingWhat has either Labour or the Tories done for this country.
@@Sankey84Gamingwhat have any political party ever done for the people!!
Can't wait to see part 3
As a Brit we hear a lot about how Americans kicked our butt during the war of American independence but in truth it wasn’t exactly like that because the Americans had a lot of help from the French, Spanish and Dutch. And britain did not send as many reinforcements because it had to maintain the the rest of the British empire across the globe. Ideally in an alternative timeline it would of been good if America separated more peacefully and became like Canada, a commonwealth country. But it was a sore piece of history for GT. Britain when you think it was British people in the 13 colonies that turned their back against GT. Britain, their ancestral home after Gt. Britain helped America become a country in the first place.
Given how England managed the problems in Ireland, India and the other colonies after the us revolution, I really doubt it could have been any better
Thank you Tyler, we don't need you to pause every 5 sentences and repeat what they said.
Yes we do.
Really.. ??? @@MrGrahawk
@nolajoy7759 Yes! Otherwise you're just watching someone else watch a video - you might as well watch the original video.Tyler's reactions are much more fun than those.
Tyler has too he has the memory of a goldfish
@@nolajoy7759 Yes, we do.
So many variables that it is impossible to know, if Britain had won the 1776 war, would they have been so open to commonwealth countries self determination or would revolutions and total independence have happened in many more countries destroying the commonwealth, North America might be divided into Spanish, French, English and Russian regions, some joining Germany during ww2.
It's a good question, but I believe so. Canadian history may give us an idea of how the British government would have reacted. Rebellions in Upper and Lower Canada in 1837/1838 (centred around political grievances similar to the American rebellion in the 1770s) led to the British government appointing Lord Durham to report on the causes of the rebellions and recommendations on changes regarding the administration of British North America. One of the outcomes of the report was the adoption of Responsible Government for the Canadian colonies, making the executive of the colonies responsible to the legislature instead of the governor (appointed by the government of the UK). Albeit a simplification, over time, responsible government led to self-determination in internal affairs (Dominion status), equality in foreign affairs (after the Statute of Westminster), and then to being an independent Commonwealth realm. Not certain, but probably likely, that this hypothetical North American Commonwealth country would have had a similar path. The one big loser I see in that scenario is the francophone community in Quebec. Maintaining Quebec's distinctiveness may have been harder in a much larger anglophone majority superstate.
@@ryanpotter3812 trying to predict alternative futures impossible, the failed rebellions may have had more support, the successful changes may have had less support, leaders may not have been born because grandparents never met, inheritances differed because the eldest did not die in a war, timeline would be different, interesting to speculate about, but it is i to say with certainty. Good intellectual exercise however.
Hawaii would likely still be an independent nation in such a world.
The native Hawaii kingdom was a British ally in our world, which had a white business owning minority made up mostly of US expats. Said expats weren't comfortable with the native kingdom trying to protect itself and it's population from exploitation, and instigated a coup against the kingdom. This lead to the overthrow of the native kingdom, and the US takeover of the territory, followed by further oppression of the native Hawaii people.
In a world like this said expats would either have to go entirely alone, and risk fighting their original homeland with the UK protecting its ally. Or try and tempt in a different colonial power - instigating a potential major war.
If the British had won the American War of Independence, it would have just become one with Canada - a large North America. Which would have just meant independence a little later .
I just want to point out that N.A. includes Mexico (I feel they get forgotten surrounded by us giant neighbours.)
Slavery WAS a point of contention in our timeline. The Americans WERE forced to give Britain preferential trade and all other trade was supposed to go through Britain in our timeline too. One thing I think this animation gets really wrong is the impact an independent USA had on the motherland. It became a template for democracy in Britain, which helped to secure greater voting rights in the Great Reform Act following the Peterloo Massacre in Manchester. America has also been a template for independence movements and freedom around the world. As a Brit, I'm sure things might have turned out as described on this video but we might have all been slightly less free and we have the Americans to thank for that, however flawed all of our histories might be.
...and you'd have Canadian health care?
Yes definitely
If GB had won today you'd have healthcare for all and a better educated population. The USA would have to become part of the Commonwealth.
but America was never part of Great Britain, it was just 13 small colonies on the east coast.
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And from where did they come from?
There's a well known British saying...
"Never a truer word spoken in jest" ...
I'm thinking of what Tyler said...
"As an American, I have never thought of this..." ... ... 🇺🇲 ... ...
...d'you see what I mean?!! 🤔
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Nice one 😂
Do you Wuv him but he won't talk to you? Bless
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Don't be silly!!
'Canada and the United States have combined into one super country' - just threw up a little in my mouth 🇨🇦
Read the book The Two Georges by Harry Turtledove.
In this alternate history North America bcame a British Dominion in the 1770s.
Britain is the motherland no doubt about it
If the Napoleonic Wars had happened in this timeline like in our own, as posited in the first half of the video, Spain would more than likely have lost most of her American colonies whether the American Revolution had been successful or not, as their grievances against the Madrid government were legion and their overlord pretty much dead in the water after the Peninsular War (1807-1814).
The question shouldn't be "would this have been better?", but could it have been any worse? The US, big business running a county at the expense of its people, two candidates ofr the top job of being president, Joe Biden and Donald Gump? What a choice, those two out of 330 million!
Many countries of the empire still had their own parliaments
here shows it’s better it happened the way it did.
But with a few exceptions.
Today the USA would be more like Canada, less guns, better education, better health care available to all - not just the rich or those so poor they’re resented. considered a burden to society.
Slavery would have been abolished 30 years earlier than it eventually was after a devastating civil war.
Canada has had independence from the British parliament since 1867 when they got their own parliament who they could vote for.
When British, British-Canadian and American women were involved in woman’s suffrage British New Zealand’s woman had already been able to vote since 1893.
I have many American friends and I go to USA very often and today many STILL think that the 4th July is a sad day for me - it never has been and never will be because we have 100 countries who have their own 4th July (!)
And if the revolutionary war had never happened the USA would not have been as strong or rich enough to help us Brits out in both the world wars.
USA has always been looked to as the future until recently - now it feel like looking into the past.
If Britain can have free schools and private schools we can and do also have free healthcare for ALL and private health care for those who wish to jump the line.
Our crappy cheap health system keeps Brits healthier for longer than our American cousins with their bankrupt health care - it’s morally bankrupt and Americans are so brainwashed they continue to blindly follow the opposite of robunbhood - your rich steals from the poor and keeps it that way and everyone just accepts it ?!
Crazy
And today if I were American I’d make a point of NEVER celebrating July 4th - not because it offends Brits - it never has - I’d make a POINT of only celebrating Juneteenth because you’re not free until ALL of you are free and that includes the slaves.
- when the British empire made a pact with the leaders of the countries they colonised they mostly honoured that contract .
By contrast american USA history is littered with tales of broken contracts with native Americans as soon as gold was found on their land.
40 states and not even one could be an honorary Native American state?
I’d like to see a Native American USA president - sadly I don’t think that will EVER happen.
Americans are SO hypocritical it’s not even funny.
Queen Victoria was a boss, and an Empress.
Would it have been better ,of course it would.
Now it's time to built a time machine and fix a few things. ;-)
Interesting thing is, if North America was British, they could've ended WW2 way faster, the formation of NATO would be different and there may not be the war in Ukraine either. It all depends on many factors, but the probable outcome is, it would be overall better.
In this time line i am guessing there would be people living in North America that would want to stay there but still be part of Great Britain, akin to northern Ireland.
Do you think the US could have stopped Britain in 1816? Imagine if instead of the recession that followed the Battle of Waterloo, Wellington had taken his veterans to the US with the promise of free land. 200k+ Veterans supported by the whole RN and no support for the US from France or Spain?
One thing that wouldn't have changed: You wouldn't have a "British" accent, because there isn't any such thing as a British accent, there are lots of different accents in different parts of the UK. You would probably have better spelling skills though.
Yes, a (universal) British accent just like Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders have. So brainy that Tyler!😉
This lacks historical context. Canada, for example, gained independence in 1931 after the costs of WW1.
I think if Britain had won the War of Independence, I think North America would be an enormous Canada. Slavery would have been abolished much earlier and the native Americans would have got a much better deal.
It does genuinely seem like history would have been much better in this timeline, with hundreds of millions of lives saved compared to real timeline wars and conflicts.
The only unknown we don't know is how the UK would have handled all that extra power long term, we would have used it well or it could have corrupted.
If you want an alternative history, imagine what would have happened if America had adopted German as its primary language. Could easily have happened.
So the world would have been better if the US was more like Canada? Sounds about right.
I'd also add a much less militant/right to bear arms incorporated in the American constitution as a direct result of the war of independence and civil wars that US would have a much less gun oriented culture and probably have stricter gun laws online with UK, Canada and other commonwealth countries. You also might have had less partisan government situations as like Canada and other Commonwealth countries you would likely model government after British model with multiple parties possible.
To win we would have had to fully commit and leave our own borders wide open to a French invasion, which totally would have happened. So we did the right thing dropping out and playing the long game, which we win anyway.
Also you would've had ur own castles and a much lower gun crime culture 😂❤
You have more accounts?? I stumbled upon this when I was watching your other account “Tyler Walker”??
Don't Forget you would also have had Australia,New Zealand,& India(Then Including Pakistan,Burma,& Bangladesh) Alongside !!America would now be part of the Commonwealth with all the benefits too all you would have English Law, British style of policing, British Style of Education, British Health Service, & European Food & Agricultural Regulations, a much Larger nationwide Rail Network allowing more ease of public movement of people & Freight that would ease the lives of long distance Truckers by allowing shorter journeys? & Americans would be Working to LIVE!! NOT LIVING TO WORK??(set pay set hours of work employees protection sick pay & designated Holiday time & PAYE(Pay as you Earn) Taxation No Forms unless Self Employed!!
Ive discoveded if yu press your finger on the screen, this div sounds cartoon an faster but if britain had won the revolution americans might drink normal tea 😊😊😊😊
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The war of independence was an easy victory as we were having a little difficulty with a French dictator called Napoleon Bonaparte, who you may have heard about.
We needed our better armed me for the little upstart.
That came after the war for independence, though it still was the French that lead the Americans to victory.
If the UK had won, slavery likely would have been abolished in 1833 (when the UK abolished it for the empire), a generation earlier. It seems unlikely there would have been a war over that. AFAIK, the UK government compensated slave owners, so why go to war? The US civil war damaged the US economy and especially the economies of the confederate states. So, the US might have transitioned to an economy without slaves, with much less bitterness and rancour between groups of states, and a much stronger economy. That economic power might have funded a much later purchase of some of the territories the USA purchased.
It seems plausible Alaska might have been acquired anyway because the UK was a close ally of Imperial Russia.
With the enormous economic 'powerhouse' of a united North America (USA and Canada as one), WW1 might not have happened, or had a dramatically different outcome. WW1 might have been settled by German defeat. Instead it was a harsh armistice (formal agreement to stop fighting) that curtailed German military power. That armistice created the conditions for Hitler to come to power. No WW1, or swift German defeat might have prevented Hitler's rise to power and WW2.
Hitler started WW2 by attacking Poland. Poland had a defence treaty with France and the UK. Would Hitler have attacked Poland if the united North America would almost immediately join in on the allies side? I think it's more likely Hitler would have attacked Russia. Depending on the outcome of the Russian revolution, it seems plausible the UK and empire might have helped Russia defeat Germany. Russia had the man power and territory to absorb Hitler's attacks. AFAICT, Russia only lacked technology and manufacturing capacity to eventually defeat Germany.
Further, Great Britain fought against the revolutionaries in Russia. With the resources of a united North America against the revolutionaries, the outcome of the Russian revolution might have been less damaging to Russia. This seems practically impossible to predict because there were some terrible people involved on both sides.
I don't understand enough to venture a reasonable opinion about Japan. The combined might of a united North American Navy and the UK's Royal Navy might have forced a dramatically different type of war with Japan. If Russia had not signed the none-aggression pact with Germany (eg. because Russia had been Hitler's main target), Japan might have attacked Russia _instead_ of the USA first. Also Japan might have pulled Western Europe, including the UK and empire, into a war to fight against Japan's attacks on European colonies in the pacific. So, if there was no war with Germany (in this scenario Germany only attacked Russia), a war with Japan might have been very different.
The UK was already developing a nuclear weapon before it shared its research with the USA (that research was significant enough that the UK and Canada both developed nuclear power after WW2, and the UK developed nuclear weapons, without US involvement). With the resources of a united North America, it might have developed nuclear weapons it in a similar time frame.
This is all wild speculation. The personalities and abilities of a few key people (eg Monarchs, Leaders or Prime Ministers) could cause unpredictable chaos.
Best Wishes. ☮
Tyler has another entire channel just on Canada (Tyler Bucket) and he still knows nothing about Canada...
Yes. He has 'learned' all about the commonwealth, Canada and UK parliament and everything else but still it's "I never knew that!."
Your not getting it, in this alternate time line it would have been the north American territorys asking for independence, the US and Canada would be a single country.
I think soccer could be a popular sport in Big Canada
This timeline could have prevented the spread of communism as well.
But yeah if America had been getting independence in that timeline, UK could not have gotten Australia or couldn't colonized them.
You would not have had a British accent just like Australia and New Zealand don’t. Also Ireland had a war of independence. When you hear one thing that’s not everything that happened in the world
And roundabouts ha ha just yanking ur chain❤
That was a fun 2 parter 😊
Because the US didn't exist before colonisation unlike India...the US would have no reason or even desire to split from the UK until relatively recent. Like Canada and Australia...the split just happened bit by bit naturally...even now because everything is running so well (except the housing crisis) even if we have a vote to break from the Commonwealth to become a republic, it's highly unlikely to pass because most people will vote to stay and have the monarch as our head.
No you would still have your accent. it might be slightly different with more British influence but softer maybe in certain states. I'm not sure if anybody down below has touched on it but one thing not mentioned in this video is if you had gained independence later but more peacefully as part of the Commonwealth. The 2nd ammendment to have the right to bare arms would not have been nessesary so probably would never have existed. Lower crime, no mass school shootings and your cops likes ours not carrying weapons.
Somewhat.. but Canadian police carry guns.
@@mw-wl2hm true but they don’t have anything like the problems the US have it’s a different (better) mentality north of the boarder both by the police and the general population
No, Ryan, the American colonies would have remained British, not just been a part of Britain, and so would the majority of the Colonists.
I doubt you would've had British accents if you'd lost your revolution. Just look at the rest of the commonwealth nations like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India and so on. All these nations used to be British colonies but still have their own accents or, in India's case, languages. If America was a commonwealth nation you'd still probably have your accents
Plus America would of most likely of adopted a form of the NHS when we did..
Disagree. The nhs came about in the socialist movement after ww2 when Britain was battered. In this time line Britain isn't destroyed in ww2 so less likely the nhs exists In either country
That might not actually be true, we adopted a national health care system due to WW11, if the war didn't last as long because of the US being involved right from the start, without the huge death toll and poverty of our nation because if the war, would we have decided to have a national health service? Also, we borrowed the money from the US to fund the start of it, so would that still have been possible it they were still part of the Empire?
You ask if it would have been better? Surely what you should be asking is, could it be worse!!
Declaration of Independence would not exist
the flag would of or could of been changed to having the union flag instead of the stars
US gun laws would of been so different
could of been driving on the left instead of on the wrong side
could of been called USGB instead of USA
You missed the most important one, the Right to Drink at 18 yrs old
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@@user-TonyUK HAAA damn it lol
@@user-TonyUK Technically the Right to Drink is from 5 years old.
@@Jee123123 YES it is at HOME ONLY
U would also have the NHS and lower equal taxes
I know its all what if's buthe even got the factual bits wrong, Great Britain banned slavery from our shores in 1066 at the same time as the US, he is probably mistaking when we banned slavery in our colonies but that ways still decades before the US.
Tyler rumple
And you wouldn't have half as many guns as you do now, the reason you have so many is because of the civil war.
"Major ramifications!!"
Yep... Better education for one...
Better help (not advertising!!) for, er, "backwards souls" ...
And maybe, Tyler and Ryan would be better Reactors...🇺🇲💙💙🤔🙂🖖
(though, Ryan does _try_ ...!!)
Queen Victoria dictated far _too much_ of her (_9_) children's lives during her _63_year old reign ...
Queen Elizabeth II reigned for 70 years, and meddled far less in her (_4_) children's lives...though it might've been so much better if
Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, had not "ruled" that her firstborn grandson marry "a young Lady Diana" in order that she produce "an heir and a spare" for the future of the monarchy....(Just sayin'!!)
The UK and the US always better together, if you look at all of the english speaking colonies pretty much all of them have prospered
Let's get one thing straight. If you had been defeated by Brits, you would have been part of UK. I think there would have been a lot of pluses for both countries. Don't forget Alaska would have been Russian. This never happened, so we're all where we are now. 👵🏴🌹🌹
Frankly the way the USA is at present,thank god Britain lost.
The use of 'Great Britain' here is totally wrong. Great Britain isn't a political entity, but a geographical landmass - the large island within which you will find Scotland, Wales and England. You should use 'United Kingdom' or 'The British' in this context.
Nope. Great Britain was the name after 1703 up to 1800.
YOU’D BE HAVING FREE HEALTH SYSTEM (NHS) INSTEAD OF GOING BANKRUPT and 5-6 WEEK VACATIONS ETC THERE GOES THST SLIDING DOORS SCENARIO 🤣 🤗 🤷♀️
Why is he telling us what the narrator just said? We heard it the first time. 🤷♀️
Because he has to fill 20 minutes of time for the UA-cam algorithm to maximize the monetary value of the channel. He also thinks that because he is dumb, he thinks that people from other countries are as ignorant as he is.
Tim are plastic money has brill on it for the blind x
Independence through violence, nothing has changed since🥲
Wow!!😅
You would also drive on the left and get longer maternity and vacation day , oh well it is what it is lol
I am just glad we British didnt win, nearly every US president was of British stock including George Washington, and an ancestor of mine Taft
2nd amendment wouldn't exist saving 1000s of Americans every year
I doubt America would have got the Louisiana ourchase, Texas, and Calufornia.
Americans: "If we lost the war, then we would be speaking with a British accent."
Canadians: "Then why don't we have a British accent?
if only.. then people wouldn't assume WE are THEM abroad!
It's a bit like a parent telling their kid, "if only you had lived your life the way I wanted you to", it would have been so much better. Then look at the atrocities they carried out in their other colonies. 🤔
Very interesting points, alternative histories of course are hypothetical but the American war of independence was a world shaping event, it created the United States and forced Britain to find alternative territories to occupy and colonise, without the loss of it’s American colonies the British may have never colonised Australia or New Zealand, the American revolutionary war was also incredibly inspiring to the oppressed and subjugated peoples of the world, it’s Possible the French Revolution or Indian independence movement never happened. Just those few things are enormously world changing.
No General Custer
We did win it but never told the Yanks so not to upset them.
if america was still part of GB empire, the empire would be less democratic today. we may have gone on to invade russia in 1916, and kept expanding the empire through asia. at some point it may have slipped into a civil war, thats would likely have been a early version of WWIII. (instead of in october24)
The Empire was more democratic than America.
Why would we have invaded Russia in 1916?
The UK was an ally of Russia in the First World War. And after the Russian Revolution, both the UK and the USA invaded Russia to assist the White Army against the Bolsheviks.
What are you talking about?
I know it's not like this, but a lot of brits do think of the anglosphere (UK USA Canada Australia New Zealand) as family with the closest family being America.
Just think if Great Britain had won you'd have been speaking English..... Oh wait!
Happy Victoria Day /
Fete de la Roi!
(Happy Birthday to the King!)
On Monday, May 20th, 2024 Canadians Celebrate The Official Birthday Of The King Of Canada!
But The Brits Celebrate The Official Birthday Of Their King On June 15th, 2024!
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We would happily swap Princess MEGAN MOAN and Prince Horrible Harry to be your Rulers...
I didn't know Harry and Megan were making policy in the UK... The fact that you would describe the as "rulers" indicates how dumb you are.
It is like watching a CHILD read and give a book report.
Now, play nice. He doesn't deserve this.
@@neuralwarp Yes he does. If you are going to make numerous channels dedicated to "learning" about other countries, but can't be bothered to do the homework or even bother to learn the basics... You deserve to be trashed.
It's just a hypothetical scenario. Calm down
No self-respecting American would ask if it would’ve been better.
That explains why YOU asked.
It’s ok to think about even if you don’t agree the same can be said about politics
Is this OP a Bot?
Relax will ya. The British never did anything truly wrong to us and are a great ally of us. There's no point in getting upset.
Calm down, it's just a what-if. Don't take it so seriously
Judging how England is now compared to the US. This country would have been better off for sure.
You have more accounts?? I stumbled upon this when I was watching your other account “Tyler Walker”??