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Trigger clamps for me are like an extra set of hands. I don't really use them for actual clamping, I just use them to help hold or support things until I can get more robust clamps in place or drive some fasteners in. The fact that can be used one-handed is what gives them unique utility over F-style clamps. I really do think every shop or home owner can benefit from a few 6" to 12" trigger clamps. You certainly don't need a ton, but a few can be beneficial.
Just recently I was using them to help hold gable ladders in place for the shed I was building. Would have been a nightmare to do that with F-style clamps.
exactly. I build a lot of outdoor furniture and they are essential to help hold parts in place until they can be either marked or fastened. But I do agree they have limited clamping power.
Understood. I have about 20 of the 6" irwins and maybe 10 or 12 of the 12".
But in my defence, The big box, Menards near me was blowing them out for about 6 months because they were going to (and did) stop selling them.
The 6" were selling for $10 for a 4 pack and the 12s were $10 for a pack of 2! I couldn't pass that up!
But I do use them kind of often. Mostly smaller edge glue ups.
I freaking love my Makita router, been using it for 4 years now. I will say the base is small though. It's great on the plunge base! Also I bought a base extension for it on Amazon. Just thought I'd mention that I'm a professional carpenter who is self employed and as someone who is building cabinets and doors and doing millwork the Makita has been great!
“Red wall collecting used to be a thing” as he’s standing by a green wall with 4 track saws😂😂
Was just about to post the *exact* same comment. LOL, "its not necessary to have the red wall"... with thousands of dollars of the same tool behind him.... (and LOTS of Festool boxes in shot as well)
Those green tools are ridiculously over-priced for no more than what they are....lots of much more affordable alternatives to that stuff. That woodpecker stuff is the same way, over-priced for what it is, and far more affordable alternatives.
I would have been shocked if the Ridgid sander wasn't on your list. It is on everybody's list of tools to hate. I love mine. Use it all the time. I don't like the storage of cylinders either because I have it on a flip base with another tool. I agree dust collection is poor so I made a dust collector box that works great and gets about 90% of the dust, maybe more.
Thanks for the video. I have the Makita corded handheld router and love it. Haven't tried the dewalt but kind of laughed when you used 2 hands to adjust it after complaining about the Makita.
Thanks for watching!
I use trigger clamps every day all day. as a cabinet installer you need them but you only need like two and that is enough! I also use them to hold things down quickly and easily onto my workbench when I am routing or flush trimming
Yeah, I have four Irwin squeeze clamps that get almost constant use. It's just nice to have one-handed operation when moving them around. F-style and bar clamps are my go-to when doing glue ups. Parallel clamps are just too expensive for my hobbyist woodworking.
I'm not a cabinet installer but the trigger clamps get used a lot in my little shop too. Admittedly, they are cheapos from that place where cheapo things are bought but for my purposes they are fine, at least for now. The cross pattern on the rubber pads allow me to hold apron frames in place when building things like coffee/end tables. And, as you said, great for holding a piece to the workbench. If you follow the advice of Izzy Swan, you can add a rubber band to make them "quick-clamps"...sorta.
I didn't care for the Makita base or adjustment either. DeWALT and Milwaukee Cordless Trim routers are much better IMO. Cool clock on the wall :)
I got a Milwaukee router when you posted a deal about it back in 2022 -- no regrets! 👊
Need to get one for your wall 😉
I bought the plunge base for my Makita trim router, I haven't used the base it came with for a very long time. The Plunge Base solved all of those issue for me.
Ditto I like my makita plunge base, it has all the stops and setting options I need, - just picked up a throat insert and a set of template guides for the makita to upgrade from my 1980’s craftsman that’s showing its age.
Jason. Appreciate your honest experiences and yes all of us eventually find out the hard way what we should have done. That's the fun of woodworking.
Jason, you're reasoning for the router table is exactly the same reason that I went the same direction. I ended up with the Jessem Ultimate Excel II Router table package. I went all out and got the dust box with it as well. I have to say that I can HIGHLY recommend the table package. Like all of Jessem's products, it is accurate, precise, easy to use, and tough as a brick s***house. It is worth every single penny that you have to scrape from the bottom of the couch cushions to get it.
I also went the extra mile, and enclosed the table base, adding some drawers to it for storing accessories and bits. It's a purchase that will feel like highway robbery, same as Festool, but damn if it isn't an absolute joy to use.
JessEm is great stuff. I bought an "Xacta" lift about 25 years ago. It was the first one I've seen, likely because it was the first one. I found out later that it was made by JessEm. I've since replaced it with a JessEm with a standard footprint (the Xacta is 14", by 11-1/8, or some such). Last year I put it in a Harvey cast iron wing extension (on my Unisaw). It took me a while to get it adapted but it's been great.
Another thing I use trigger clamps for is in extention mode, I use them in a jig I built to join together scarfed plywood for boats. Not something everyone needs, but the take-away is that while every other clamp might be better for some specific use, the trigger clamp was the one that adapted to this major need I have, and made it happen after years of searching for a solution. They are really adaptable.
I went through the same process a few years ago, I went with Milwaukee M18 wanting to only have one battery platform.....
10+yrs later i got Milwaukee, Festool, DeWalt, Makita & Fein batteries 🤔
I have got the 18v DeWalt trim router with fixed & plunge & I would recommend it to anyone.
Rule #1: NEVER tell your wife you bought a tool you don’t need or never use. It’s NOT at all like her shoe collection! And it ruins your chances of getting new and better tools.
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lol yes I would never admit to purchasing a tool I didn't really need, Id never hear the end of it!
My biggest fear is that when I’m gone, my wife will sell my tools for what I told her I paid for them!
@@enzprintco.8625On the other hand, if she knew what they were worth, you might have an unexpected and early demise.
@@enzprintco.8625 But you might be “gone” earlier if she knew what they were really worth. 😀
Handy to have a few trigger clamps for one handed clamping until you can get something better on
Re the router table segment- I’d recommend getting a combination machine to replace your slider (e.g Hammer C3-41, Minimax lab 300 or similar). Sliders are great and what makes the combination machine even better is the shaper (some can be fitted to use regular, cheaper router bits). The shaper enables you to use the length of the table as well the sliding table itself with the fence. You cannot beat that with any router table.
Great video--solid reasoning on all these choices. One thing I'd add--not buying cheap router bits (and any other cheap bits) is also a lot safer.
You have 4 festool track saws. How many do you need? I see three festool routers too.
We all have tools that were mistakes.
As a 20-year veteran of the Navy, I just wanted to say thank you for your service. Also, I definitely like your videos. I only do the woodworking as a hobby, more to occupy some of my time than to actually produce something, so most of your tool recommendations are outside my budget. Not because I can't afford them (I truly have more money than sense), but I just can't justify the cost vs. the intended use. Still, your teaching videos are top-notch and I do appreciate your patience in showing just how to do something.
As a 25-year USAF veteran, I thank you for your service!
I am a lot like you but sometimes buying that quality tool makes your hobby more enjoyable even if the quality isn’t necessary. And if you can afford it, that can be worth a lot.
I don't understand why (former) military personnel always thank each other for their service. Since both parties provided the same service, just usually a different branch.
@@ernavill3261I am retired from the Vietnam era but I still thank those currently serving and retired. Not hard to understand at all if you can comprehend what is sacrificed and for what.
@@ernavill3261 It's showing some love.
Maybe a waste for some, but I use the hell out of my spindle sander.
Me too. This guy seems to buy anything that is perceived as the best, needed or not. Definitely distasteful.
I think it’s cause he’s more into cabinets than anything else.
I like mine so much I bought a second - one with the spindle always setup and one with the belt… I’m a guitar builder so I’m always sanding curved shapes. I can see it not being that useful to somebody who deals with straight stock 99% of the time
I think if you build furniture it would be very nice addition
Amazing. With the exception of the bobbin sander, I've made all the same mistakes as you, and couldn't agree more.
One other tip about drill bits: don’t buy the good ones one by one because over time you’ll just end up with a full set anyways, just more expensive. Just buy the full set in one go.
Except...: that expensive set will have the bits YOU actualy use. Not some random sh*t... ...where the one or two you do use won't last!
and NEVER use them for anything except your wood working stuff because those fancy expensive bits are made for that, not to drill holes in metal, and other stuff LOL. I keep the cheap bits around for those non-wood working tasks, and they're in different cases of totally different styles so I don't grab the wrong bits for the wrong job LOL.
I completely agree with you on getting rid of all yourWoodpecker’s stuff
I wonder why …
LOL. No bias in that comment, right?
Agree with about everything except Makita router. Yes the depth adjust isn't great. But the Makita plunge base is amazing. That's where this thing really shines. Also as far as the router itself goes. It is the arguably the best on on the market. It actually has more power than the corded model.
I have the WEN oscillating sander still in the box, sealed for over a year.
I was watching another video and saw the thumbnail.
I already completely agree and I am just starting the video! That ridgid sander was tons of wasted space. Some people love it, but I’m in a 12 x 16 shop and space is at a premium.
In all honesty, I’m not dropping on others who love the sander or other tools, but to much time is spent only talking about the good things a tool can do and not enough about how it could be not only more than you need, but larger than you have space for. There’s almost a pressure in the community where you “need” all the types of tools.
In almost every case, there is more than one way to do ANY specific task. It took me years to learn that and now I have spent the last couple years getting rid of certain tools for more space to work.
Great video….
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’d be interested in what your alternative to the Rigid sander is - I have a tiny shop too, and have made do for many years with an old bench top vertical belt/disc sander (virtually never use the disk). I tried to get by with a Jet oscillating drill press that can function as a spindle sander, but it’s just too much of a compromise. So, was about to buy one of the many that are nearly the same as the rigid, but to hear the OP say he doesn’t use it anymore and you say it’s not worth the space - would love some other ideas. I know I’m fed up with hand sanding things that would be faster and better done on a spindle sander of some kind, and yearn for something like the larger bed on this than the few square inches on my belt sander.
@@3weight Your decision ultimately is based on what you like to make. I own the Rigid sander, an old 6x48 craftsman belt / disk sander (never use the Disk) and a sand-rite drum / flap wheel sander as stationary tools. I restore and build furniture, make executive desks to bird houses. When I need to sand curves, one of these sanders gets called into play. The old craftsman gets the most use though. The Rigid beats the snot out of a drum on a drill.
@@garywhite9908 Yeah, seems like the OP must have evolved into different kinds of projects, since he said he used to use it a lot and now never touches it. Hoped @Andrew_Sherman might reply since we both have microshops :-) I guess OP Brent is likely just doing different kinds of work vs. having found a better alternative for the same kinds of processes. I’ll probably move forward with either the Rigid or one of the one that gets OEMed to different brands - the Grizzly, Harbor Freight and WEN all look like the same machine, for about a hundred less than the slightly larger Rigid. Thanks for the 👍on the Rigid.
@@3weight Remember the Rigid also gives you a 4x24 belt sander in that package that works great as well in a small footprint.
There's an interesting difference between how we use analog and digital readouts, and I'll go with a clock as an analogy to demonstrate it. I've been around long enough that I lived through the introduction of digital watches. I currently wear one, because (a) it's actually a fitbit and I want to display more than just the time on the screen (digital takes less real estate) and (b) I work in computing where knowing the precise time is often important. On my phone, I have the clock configured as an old style analog face.
But how often do you really need to know that it's 7:45:23 rather than "about quarter to 8"? I ran a little experiment where, for a few days, whenever I saw someone look at their watch, I would wait a breath or two then ask them the time. They always had to go back and look at their watch - they didn't actually record in their head what they had just read. That's because, most of the time, we are looking to answer a different question, such as "is it lunch time yet?". In other words we're interested in a "relative" time - and analog watch faces work much better for that. You don't need to do any mental arithmetic, or even really read the real time. You just look at the relative positions of the two hands, or maybe just the hour hand.
Now, to bring it back to woodworking: I have both a digital and an analog vernier caliper. When I want to measure something (like a drill bit size, or screw shank etc) I go with the digital. When I want to transfer a measurement from one piece to another, I go with the vernier - because I never actually read the vernier scale, and it never runs out of batteries (which sometimes cost more than the tool itself)
This digital/analog dichotomy between precision and "good enough" permeates our lives. For example, which is easier to understand: 133.7 degrees, or "roughly South East"? Airplanes need the former, humans the latter.
I've been watching your videos for years. Had no idea you were a fellow Hoosier. Hello from Fortville, IN.
Yup, lived here since 2020
Nicely done. I have tools that i feel the same way about. On another note, I noticed your 10th Mountain patch in the background. I served there as well from 93 to 95 as part of Division Artillery.
I buy cheap drill bits because I break a lot of them, via bad practice or mishandling. But, based on your advice, I'll buy Forstner or Brad Point henceforth.
I have a few of the items you showed the 1)wood pecker Combo that fastened together they are better then what I had 2) the Ridgid spindle belt sander 1 of my favorite tools in my shop (dust collection could definitely improve) 3) the Dewalt clamps don’t use them much …. I think my biggest regret is getting a bunch of 48” Rockler bar clamps and NO 24” clamps, with the most of my current stuff I do the 24” Rockler clamps would be nice to have
This makes me want to compare the Milwaukee against the DeWalt since I have the Milwaukee drills & batteries. 🤔
Do we need cordless trim routers? 🤕
Great information! Also enjoyed thr Mr. Roger's throwback opening.
Glad you enjoyed it
Sound advice. I agree with the Forstner(they are a great brand), Brad Bits, Larger Grip Clamps, Laser Level. I don't have any Woodpeckers, I did look but their international freight are not reasonable. I do use similar corner clamps and I have used 1000mm,600mm,300mm Stainless Steel rules for all of my cabinetry . I also buy once and cry once. I'd recommend the NOVA drill press , I also found the belt driven one a pain in the arse. I will recommend you to the Jessem Router Table though I have never got the Wixkey digital dial to ever work on it with an unresolved ground error. Regards
Thanks for doing this podcast. It was very helpful to me as I’m starting to set up my woodworking shop at home. I wish someone had done this for all the camera gear I’ve bought over the past 20 years that I never use. I could have funded my workshop with those wasted buys.
Not sure which drill press you have there. I think Nova, who also makes lathes (Teknatool) was the first to make a variable speed drill press. I have one of the PMs, and love it. I think I use it mostly for lathe projects though. Some jigs also. I use rulers all the time, 6, 12, and 24 inch. A lot of the time I use them for drawing. When possible, I like to draw out furniture plans full scale. Never learned CAD stuff....
Everything you have said lines up with my own personal experience except for the trigger clamps.
I have a lot of them and still sometimes wish I had a couple more in the middle of a project.
That is more a function of what I work on so it may not apply to everyone.
Dude I just got that DeWalt trim router in the mail this week and used it for the first time yesterday to do an inlay. No idea why I waited so long. And it sounds nice!!
Nice!!
Same. It was this channel that convinced me to get it even if it meant adding another battery ecosystem. I'm glad I did. Got a good package deal that included two batteries, the trim router, a jig saw, and a sander. I don't understand how I lived so long without a cordless trim router, let alone one as nice as the DeWalt. The main issue is that it's rather bulky for a trim router. I have big hands and it's right at the limit of what I can comfortably grip one-handed. The other thing I don't like is the switch. DeWalt loves those dastardly microscopic rubber encased rocker switches that are super hard to use.
It is always better to be pissed off than pissed on! 😂😂😂 A little old-time humor.
100% agree about the router bits!
Calmly waiting for Festool to step up their cordless trim router game, while we are at it, we need the cordless version of the TS60. And don't get me started on the SYS power station.
Iam with you on that
Thank you for your service.
I bought the incra router table years ago, and completely agree with your comment that you need to relearn it every time you use it unless you are using it daily. Mine is free standing in the middle of my shop, so I don't have the wall issue you have, but I don't come close to maximizing its capabilities.
I can see the Woodpecker lovers coming for you with the pitchforks now😂
I don’t think they can afford a pitchfork since they spent all their money on crappy red aluminum tools!
@@coolbugfacts1234 😂😂
Im very happy with my orbital sander.
If I already had the incra router table I would just build it into my main workbench to get around the issues you are having. The fence system just drops into dog holes if Ivremember correctly so you can easily just remove it and hang it on the wall when not in use.
All your points are very well put. Some don't reflect exactly my position, but they all make good sense. Well done!
My next buy is a sander and had either that one or one of the many look-alikes in mind. I wish you had spoken more to what you use instead of that!
I use my Ridgid spindle sander all the time and it works well for me!
I find the reverse Woodpecker rule handy. If I add anything to my fence, and I want to measure the distance to the blade, the reverse ruler is handy. Reverse means 0 on the right.
Brilliant, you made it real; taken some supposedly must buy tools and related them to practical woodworking uses. what struck me most was pointing out that inaccessible tools are not often used - that is so true especially if your are earning a living from production or just need to get the job done fast. makes me wonder if tool s on wheels is the way to go?
I struggled with Incra router table and settled with jessem. For me, the jessem has everything I want.
Great video. Other than two spokeshaves and a small shoulder plane I can't get to work, I've been lucky with most of my tools/equipment; with one expensive exception, and it's the costliest tool I've purchased: an Inca 10.5" jointer/planer. It worked beautifully for building my workbench, all my shop cabinets, and a few furiture pieces, then the nylon weirdo gear stripped. Inca was out of business, so I now have a $3,000 paperweight. Makes me sick.
Ha! These are lots of the same things I’ve found. I recently bought the cordless Dewalt trim router. I am so glad I did. I love it. I reach for it over my Bosch corded trim all the time now.
The Rigid sander… I had the Triton one. Same thing. The more I used it and the more i learned… it just wasn’t giving me the results I wanted.
I have TONS of router bits that I bought the whole package. Buy the bit you need and buy a good one. The rest just take up room. I gifted a set that I had to a new woodworker that was just starting out. You’d have thought I gave him my right kidney. Same thing with bits. I have multiple cheap kits. It’s time to get rid of them and just buy a good set.
I’ve been holding off on replacing my trigger clamps. I started out with them and of course… they did the job. But once you start using the f-style it changes. I still use some of my trigger clamps. But not as often as I used to. Especially now that I have an MFT
Great video!
One thing seemingly not a lot of people know when it comes to battery platforms... you can get adapters to use just about any battery on any platform, so if you do try a new tool on a different platform and end up not liking it... get the adapter and that battery can be used on your other tools.
The problem is that these are not proprietary items and may be of questionable quality. Also, using them would probably invalidate any warranty.
Very good information, Bent. And easy to watch and listen to. Thanks a lot.
I think you just made half of a buy once cry once video, looking forward to the other half. Thanks for your service
You need 2 hands to adjust the DeWalt as well
Great video thanks for sharing as a new woodworker it’s easy to get lost in all these tools so it’s great to see someone say what not to buy. So for a new woodworker what router bits from Whiteside would you recommend to start buying?
I would suggest a spindle moulder over the router table. The ability to run all of your router bit, plus other cutter heads. Super solid construction. The option tomhave sliding tables. It depends on your needs but definitely worth looking at.
I like the intro and outro on this with you coming in and out of the shop.
I have an Incra router table, too, and I have similar feelings about the sometimes awkward fence orientation but also love the great dust collection and the fence micro-adjust (a godsend compared to bump and pray). So, I'm looking into adding a second fence that runs in the other direction. Swapping fences wouldn't be fun to do everyday but it's only a few bolts and I'll have the best of both worlds available.
I liked this video content and have enjoyed your other tool reviews, shop build outs, etc. What would help though is more context. By that I mean not necessarily specific project videos but something like "a year in my shop". I think it would informative and interesting to know the mix of projects and how that affects your tool needs. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the idea!
I'd never get rid of my drill press, even though I don't use it all that often. When I need it, I need it. I have a monster and likely will never need an 18" drill press. Once in a while I need to drill metal, and it can't be beat, particularly with Viking Vortex bits. I'd also add a set of twist drill bits to your list. Brad points are fragile. Hit buried treasure and it's ruined.
I'm glad you mentioned the Woodpeckers drill press table. It's outrageously expensive, as are all their products (and I have a lot) but had never seen any sort of review of it. Maybe.
In addition to Woodpeckers center-zero rulers, the left-to-right, left-to-right are very useful for setting distance to a fence. The zero isn't always on the wrong side.
I bought a oneway base, and I have two Mit. digitals, but I still reach for the dial indicator more often. And they are super cheap. The magnetic bases are also very cheap, and they work in so many different functions. There are a lot of those "Red" things that are 10X expensive for what probably ends up as a one time measurement. For instance the New Katz Moses thing for making sleds. It is nice, but if you can't figure out 10 ways to measure that out for peanuts, including some with a dial, the tools aren't the problem.
You have a gigantic MFT. Buy the Precision Dogs mounting plate for your Inca router fence and build the router table into your MFT!
I have the Incra fence for my tablesaw and the Incra router fence and lift. Love them both.
Sage advice
Glad to see the weight loss. Also it's cool to know that we live in the same state.
Thank you!
I have the same Rigid oscillating spindle sander and it's not perfect. But I needed it for a special project (interior weight-reducing oval cutouts in a fishbone frame for a paddleboard) and I have since used it quite a lot for odd projects. The storage is not well designed, and the dust collection is horrible. But it was not expensive and it lets me get the job done.
Totally agree with you on these, especially the cheap drill bits and router bits! Just spend the few extra dollars on quality bits and you'll be a lot happier with them!
One problem with trigger clamps is the price has soared. I do have bar clamps, and a lot of C clamps. But trigger clamps are useful for freezing parts, or work holding, if you don't have the perfect set of vises or MFTs. I actually use boxes of the mini trigger clamps all the time. Great for guitars and other small projects.
Late last year, Home Depot had DeWalt four-packs (two 300#, 12" and two 150# 8", I think), for $35. I picked up a bunch, even though I also have Irwins. I need them in two rooms. I've used sixteen for one project. Ten were used to clamp cauls, so there is probably a better way for them.
I would recommend the Jessem Masterlift 2 table . The crank handle on the side is so handy I mean next level handy . I also have the new Jessem Spindle along with the dust box and hose kit. I have the TA fence with the added micro adjusting added . This Kit is expensive no doubt but does it work great YES! I am intrigued by the new Woodpecker fece I think that fence is probably pretty awesome as well. The Jessem Miter slide is a pretty clever and pretty handy item as well . Those are my two cents. I am at a period of my life where I have some discretionary income and I hate buying things twice.
Agree with most of your observations, except trigger clamps. I use them constantly - not as a glue up clamp but on general carpentry. Working by yourself they make a good third hand that can solve some safety problems also. I try to figure out the "planned obsolescence" of a tool - my definition. Since I always try to repair any damaged tools, I look at which platforms that do not make repairs easy or less expensive. Example - DeWalt drills to replace something like a trigger you have to buy the complete guts of the drill which is not cost worthy. As for nice tools that you seem not to use much - solution - build an addition to your shop. Think outside of the box.
Enjoyed your video. Kudo's for talking about BetterHelp. Appreciate your take on what to buy, or not. Only disagreement was on trigger clamps. I mount some power tools on 3/4" plywood and use trigger clamps to my workbench. I have a Rikon slow speed grinder, with one grinding wheel and one wire wheel. Use it to buy old auger bits and clean off the rust. Also have a Kreg K5 mounted to 3/4" plywood board. I can put these tools out of the way, and when I need them, put them on my bench clamped securely. Love the Whiteside bits.
Thank you for invalidating thousands of dollars worth of tools in my collection! ;.) j/k I absolutely agree with you about the Incra router table. Don't buy the Incra router table if you DO NOT HAVE THE ROOM for it. Now if you DO have the room for one I absolutely whole heartedly endorse the entire INCRA system.
Agreed! It’s such a great accurate system. Just doesn’t work well for my space anymore
21:59Recent use of this very tool with 4” sanding belt setup to strip old finish off the spindles/slats (from a queen-size bed frame I made 20+ years ago) made it worth every penny I paid for it 10+ years ago ($80?) at a local pawn shop. For some reason, I never used spindle sanding setup with the Ridgid and I’ve had (still do) the handheld Porter Cable spindle sander (with bench top mounting throat-plate still in its bag) forever. I think that for someone like me (who still has/uses original Indra Miter Gauge 1000 w/o any add-ons on a non-SawStop tablesaw😂) this is one of those tools you just can’t use it up or get rid of only because there are more ‘expensive’ tools out there.
I prefer Dial indicators myself. I also really like my Ridgid bench top sander. It is a good tool to have when you need it.
Great video! Totally agree with the bit packages, I get them, use a few till they die, then end up getting new ones, so I have a bunch of quarter used sets...
Jason, i have exact same setup with Nova and WP DP Pro Kit. However I did some mod that i actually record it and hopefully i can find time to edit it and publish it. It give it much better depth usaibility.
One thing about the dewalt router that I also use is the location of the on/off switch. I'm right handed and I was doing champfer edges and found when done is putting the router down, upside down to look for the off switch. Not thought out I feel. And no builtin vac attachment, as some wood shavings get caught in the shoe-base openings, and can fight you using it. Sure there is the DNP615 but it now blocks your view of the bit. I dislike router tables ever since I used a shaper.
For me, once in a blue moon, I need a sanding drum. I get by with a few for the drill press.
Question: What digital readout tool do you recommend?
Good video Jason. During your discussion on the bench-top drill press, I opened another browser window and was looking for F-style clamps on Amazon to replace my PITA trigger clamps. Then, a couple minutes later, there you are talking about trigger clamps. Yup, me too, I have more trigger clamps than parallel or f-style. And, BTW, looking good my man! Keep up the great work.
I didn’t buy the rigid sander but got it from my dad. I really thought it be great but it’s very underpowered and now sits in my shed outside.
So the back side, I have 3 large good quality power tools that almost never get used, 22/44 Jet Drum Sander, Jet Oscillating Spindle sander, Delta floor drill press. Hate the though of getting rid of them, not sure how best to sell them, but sit along a wall taking up space.
And yes, the Graco Power Shot got me into the DeWalt battery space, and first other DeWalt tool I got was the very same trim router! Otherwise love the blue cordless I have, from impact driver to multi-tool. So far all my green tools are corded, and if you go for my Domino you'll pull back stump.
It would be cool, one of these days if you could share your views on disposing of tools.
Notice the trim too awesome 👏🏽👏🏽
Thanks!
I don't know if I missed it but why don't you set the router table up so it's facing out and can be used 'left to right' so you can use it without moving?
Cant tell for sure, but it looks like you have 4 or 5 festool track saws on a shelf back there.. if so, why so many?
Good analysis and recommendations. Thx.
Glad you enjoyed!
I have the Rigid oscillating sander. I use it all the time, but you are right, the dust collection stinks.
I have a few trigger clamps never use them. Purchased some cheap router bits mostly not used but some only once others wore quickly, then working out what I needed. As for the sander mine is well used.
I really don't understand why the flat edge is used on the router base because it is a disaster waiting to happen. The round base ensures the router bit is always the same distance from the reference edge. When you have a flat face, like on the DeWalt, you have to to keep both the base and reference edge perfect in alignment; otherwise, the distance changes and you don't get a straight cut.
Honestly I agree with most of what you are saying, I think what happens is (I am speaking of myself as well as others lol) Some people just jump in head first and see all of this or that and say I need it. But may have a smaller budget then what they want. So you end up buying cheap stuff and work your way up, I agree with you that some stuff is buy once cry once and boom you done but I think its a knowledge issue of what you actually need. I also think that if you are getting into it to make a living then buying the better tools makes sense. I myself have Ryobi 18 and 4 volt as well as Milwaukee 12 volts and I do everything and I mean everything with them. But I also do it as a hobby and not a living, for me as cool as festool is I cannot justify the money for the stuff again if your making a living then it makes more sense for taxes and such. I am currently going through stuff slowly but surely and getting rid of some of the cheap stuff I bought and not replaceing until I need something and then buying better products. It is just to easy for novice people to go down the rabbit hole.
I agree!
Interesting points and I have made many tool purchases that were great tools but I didn't use them much. I ditched the drill press nearly 3 years ago to make room for a CNC and haven't missed it. One point on digital vs. analog for dial indicators though. The digital are great for a point to point measurement such as verifying blade alignment to miter slot/fence to an individual blade tooth however, it is lousy for detecting trends for adjustments such as tramming a CNC spindle. Both have their places which is why I have and use both. Steve
What brand of drill bit set did you use?
Over the years, I've even gotten rid of some Festool tools. I would be curious to know if you have gotten rid of any too. MFS comes to mind. finicky and very little use for them.
I like to work on small projects, so I disagree on some of the tools. I did just buy the Wen sander. So far, it has been great.
Drill presses are better suited for metal workers and not wood workers.
Cheap bits are great for people who are starting out and learning, because cheap bits can be thrown out when you damage them and not cry about the price you paid for them.
I use my drill press constantly for woodworking.
Why do “wood workers” buy tools, jigs, tables that are easily made? YOUR A WOOD WORKER! MAKE IT! WORK WOOD!
Some of them don’t grasp tool purpose or basic design principals very well. They lack the insight as to why a jig works and they just want a plug and play solution.
I’m an engineer so jig design and process improvement is half the fun for me, but there’s tons of guys that don’t care about why something works and just want to make sawdust without thinking g too much.