You just keep on doing you. People trust you and that's what matters! The only places that would treat you so negative are the ones with something to hide!! You have a legal freedom of speech and if these shady places don't like it, they are only hurting themselves!!! Let them "blacklist" you because retaliation and discrimination is illegal and rest assured they WILL NOT like the consequences that comes from it and that would be an extremely stupid and ignorant business move because word of mouth is a very powerful thing and anyone with followers who do legit and honest work, will always prevail! Its just a campground and in this day, age, and economy especially, people depend on those reviews moreso now than ever before!
One word - integrity. As a former park manager who supervised 5 separate campgrounds, I can tell you that we appreciated bad reviews the same as good. How else were we supposed to make our camper's experience better. I think you should be absolutely honest about your reviews, AND publicly out this campground and the corporation or entity behind it. Why? Because that's the only way this kind of crappy business practices will stop. I think you'd be surprised by how many will ban this business. Again - integrity. You shouldn't be afraid to honestly evaluate a property. AND, it shows great integrity on your part to protect fellow campers and consumers from this type of shady operations. IMHO
New here but totally agree! God asks us to be honest & fear no evil or enemy! Especially Christians!! Stand out from the wickedness of the world & make a difference‼️
There is a PayPal link in the video description if you would like to donate if we were to be sued. Seriously though, it is called libel and we prefer to not spend our time or money on court fees only to serve people that have no clear concerns for us. Actually NOT naming them was the smartest thing we did - the conclusion to this will cover that. Remember as we said in the video, no review was ever made of their properties. Safe Travels Karri
@redbaron474 - C'mon big shot, don't be a "wimp" as you put it - share the "real reason" since you clearly know so much. First, you insult us, then our faith and you continue to hide behind a keyboard slinging nonsense - here is you chance ... Expose Us!
We know the network and it is LARGE, we feel confident that our family attorney can clear this up. Our video reviews of campgrounds are very mild and nothing damaging was ever said on video. We are starting to believe this is a misunderstanding.
@@liferedesigned why did you delete my comment it was mild and not divisive. You kicked me out of the comment section was that to a misunderstanding. I just want to say I've been kicked out of the comments section exactly in the same way you've been kicked out of the park
not sure what you are talking about, you are obviously not kicked out as you are able to leave this comment 😊. We got flooded with tons of comments at once- maybe it never made it to us? UA-cam has a lot of hiccups.
As a former park ranger we always wanted reviews good or bad that always told us what we need to improve on. And how we could make things better for Park visitors, if you cannot be open minded, and tell the truth about rv parks and how it can be improved or if there’s any safety issues that need to be addressed. Nobody likes bad reviews, but that your chance to turn a negative into a positive and come out strong and promote your Park.
As a retired attorney, I understand the exact “eviction” rules vary from state-to-state, but here’s the thing. Since they are corporate, and they say their corporation is ordering you to be evicted, then the location isn’t involved. They are merely passing along the order. But the corporation itself is the one that caused you damage and inconvenience. I assume you’ve retained a lawyer from your reference to waiting to get that opinion before you name the place. The lawyer ought to consider where it would be best for you to file a lawsuit. Filing a lawsuit may be necessary to obtain their “full attention.” They offered you a stay, and you prepaid evidently for one month, then they cancelled and evicted you for no good reason. That caused you to be damaged. Their corporate “network” should also be held to account for spreading false and/or misleading claims about you two. Whether or not you name them, you ought to try to obtain vindication and also a promise not to disseminate that information to others. A court could order that and retain jurisdiction in case they violate the agreement. Anyway, assuming the facts are as you represent, then what they did was pretty bad. BTW the 1st Amendment applies against the federal, state and local government, not corporations or private persons. There are other laws that make it more likely they are in trouble with your attorney.
Hi Bill, Thank you for your input. Hopefully everyone reads this comment. We respect their right to refuse service as a private property. We have zero issue with them asking us to leave. The issue here was simply the blacklist reference as well as the fact that we never reviewed any of their properties. While we can’t go into further details currently, the amount of people demanding that we release the name and “expose” them is extremely concerning. Your explanation is spot on. We look forward to providing an update within the next couple of weeks
@@liferedesigned They gave up the "right to refuse service" to you when they entered into a contract for a month's stay and took your money. Changing their mind and refunding you doesn't change that. It takes two to tango in canceling a contract.
California and some other states have laws against review extortion. This would (in my not a lawyer-eze) run afoul of those laws. Lawyer up.@@liferedesigned
Unless in public with public access then they have zero right to privacy and as an atty one would think you'd make that extremely clear in today's tyrant policing
I wouldn't wait for an "All Clear" that may never come. Just tell us who it is. They can't blacklist you from EVERY campground in the country. They're bluffing and playing games . Don't fall for it!
More than the park. Name the management company. Anyone that punishes someone for a bad review really shouldn’t be in business. They should reach out to you for details and update you on how they made changes so,other guests don’t get your experience.
We have heard that from quite a few hosts over the years. Our favorite is the ones that offer us free stays for a positive review. We have turned every offer down
Wow! Not surprised. I don’t camp but I have a cousin and wife who are also camp hosts and just tour around America and Canada all the time. Not my kind of life but they love it
Wow. Like fake reviews on Amazon or any website, I guess. You can buy reviews and pay for positive press announcements. I worked for a high-tech company that couldn't get any media attention so the president decided to purchase an interview from a tech magazine... it blew my mind at the time. It was all fake. Bogus info.
They are easy to spot. I only look at negative reviews, it's also easy to spot fake negatives from competitors. Too many business operate off the "screw them once" principle.
Same thing is happening with those who are speaking out about poorly constructed RV's. There is a YT channel that tries to be a voice for those who cannot get the RV companies to answer their complaints and that woman has been threatened with legal action if she assists others. She's not backing down. I appreciate your honest video!
@@liferedesigned What? “…word about that channel - take it all with a grain of salt.” What are you talking about. I know Liz Amazing and you don’t know what you’re talking about. She’s doing great work.
Kathy, if you feel entertained by her channel that is all that matters. We simply stated our opinion, Last I checked we were still entitled to do so. It does not mean you have to agree with us. #WeMissPaul
@liferedesigned I liked Liz Amazing at first, as it seemed like a good RVing channel, but I became uninterested and stopped watching as it seemed to take a downward turn and focus on the dramatics.
It looks like they think that it’s you when it was somebody else maybe? So we have stupidity on top of corporate monopolization. What a delicious recipe.😮
thank you 🙏 i’m sorry. i’ve moved many times at a moments notice from discrimination for my disabilities and my YT channel. It’s the most HORRIBLE feeling to be told “YOU CANT STAY HERE” as a disabled veteran with service animal. it’s horrific how public and private entities treat people because “they don’t like it” keep on keeping on. deeja. thanks 🙏 for being truthful and transparent and helpful. I appreciate you. ❤
First: Thank You for your service! We don't advertise our youtube channel for exactly this reason. We have heard horror stories from park owners about threats from youtubers if they don't get their way. Ruins it for the rest of us for sure
That’s awful. Companies are supposed to take those bad reviews and improve that issue for future guests. Thank you for sharing with clarity and honesty. Enjoy all you do in life guys✌🏽👽
Another way to look at this is…..if the RV park was doing things the way they should be, they would welcome you with open arms and know that your review (if any) would benefit them. The fact that they don’t want you in their park for fear of a bad review speaks for itself. I had an extremely bad experience several years ago in a city campgrounds and I am not a UA-camr! But my very lengthy review on Google still gets read to this day.
Wow. Just wow! Thanks for sharing this story. It's helpful to be more aware of the pitfalls of life on the road, and how few protections there are for travelers. Conversely, squatters are occupying private homes all over the U.S. -- sometimes high end properties -- and the authorities are refusing to kick them out, telling the owners THEY have no rights, but the squatters DO! What a bunch of insanity we are currently dealing with, and growing exponentially in the last 4 to 6 years. 🤬
They shouldn’t ask for reviews if they don’t want to hear a negative opinion. Thats the point of asking, so they can fix the problems for the next person.
I was a patient in a hospital for surgery and had horrible care to the point that I became unresponsive. They refused to give me any pain medication, even a Tylenol, or an ice pack despite major surgery. I asked for a comment card on the way out and they wouldn’t give me one. With my follow up appointment with my surgeon who does the majority of his cases at this hospital, I told him that I was still upset about the care (he was off call that weekend) and he wasn’t aware of everything else that had happened. About a week later, I never heard from the hospital but didn’t receive the bill that I expected so I called. Apparently, the bill was ‘resolved’. Surgical procedures are the bread and butter for these hospitals so the surgeon’s involvement did more than what my comment card would have done. If I had been able to leave my comment, I would have been fine with just leaving my opinion and nothing else was done. As a hospital nursing supervisor of a different hospital, I would be asked to meet with unhappy patients or family members and always appreciated their feedback. Improvement comes not from praise, but rather from deficiencies.
I work for the court system and I see people evicted for the craziest reasons. When I saw this it really infuriated me how they can get away with this. Thank you for sharing your experience. New subscriber and hoping you can be a voice for people that have no voice. God Bless
Viewers want honest reviews from influencer s. If a company doesn't want bad reviews then keep a nice, kept up campground. As long as you tell the facts. the truth and not slander a company you can give honest reviews. Don't let people like this bully you into posting anything else or not posting. In fact you should add to the post how you were bullied over posting an honest reviews of the campground
This is the new generation of people who are doing this. Not only to RV traveling but also to most anyone that has hurt their feelings or not kissed their feet even though this new generation hasn’t earned a good review or they aren’t doing their job as is expected. They are whinny kids that can and will use the internet to communicate bad things about someone if that someone “hurts their feelings “, or doesn’t kiss their feet as mommy and daddy did. They can do no wrong. They are mean and abusive to older generations. I promise you nothing would have been said if you were less than 25 years old. It’s awful how they treat people and they should be black listed from all RV travelers
Unbelievable!!!! My wife and I are about 2 years into the RV lifestyle, and have stayed at 2 parks that were absolutely horrendous. We do not have a youtube channel, but only word of mouth to get the word out. I hate to see Constitutional rights trampled on. Would love to know the name of this park, so we can avoid it at all costs.
Once we have the situation resolved so that we don't jeopardize our ability to stay places we will provide an update. This video was really only intended for our small channel's loyal viewers that noticed gaps in our timeline and was meant as a way to update them. We NEVER thought it would have received as much attention as it has.
This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with constitutional rights, but everything to do with bad business. This park deserves to be boycotted to the point it goes out of business.
As stated by others, Freedom of Speech, a Constitutitional Right, has to do only with the government, Fed., State, County, Local. If you say something about a company that isn't true and they were damaged by your words, they can sue you. Example: Fox "News" promoting election lies and having guests on their shows that promoted election lies. In particular, the lie that votes were changed from Trump to Biden by certain voting machines. One voting machine company sued Fox, and from deposition testimony, text messages, and emails of on-air personalities, producers, and the owner, it was abundantly clear that they decided to lie to their viewers and they allowed and promoted the lies told by guests. Fox had to pay Dominion Voting approximately $800 Million for lying about their company's product. There is no freedom of speech to slander someone. But, these people and the RV Park has its own issues, and it sounds like these good people are doing their best to resolve things the best they know how. I will come back to find out just how, and I hope they will be all smiles.
Man I am so happy that I boondock 100% of the time. And you are right in that this kind of thing will intentionally stifle honest RV park reviews if the review is not positive.
I love that you had a goal to embarrass your kids. My dad used to embarrass me all the time, but I look back at some of the things he did and he was really very funny and he still is at 93. To have a Colonel in the US Air Force, at Shakey's Pizza Parlor with his family, singing along with the player piano, and walking around the restaurant to the other tables holding out a mug for tips for his singing... Yes, my Dad. So, I was often embarrassed by him, but looking backat my own life, I am so much like him in so many ways, and more than anyone else I look a bit like him (as he looked like his father).
Much respect for you two bringing this to light. My opinion on this ridiculous and obsurd fashion of bulling ? This is America, we are FREE to inform, bitch, complain and write any sort of diatribe we please. This behavior can never be tolerated. We all depend on reviews for "Truth"... It seems nothing anymore out there is honest or ethical. I am not coming down on you, however, this is becoming a big problem and we need to find the integrity to shut the bullying down. I enjoy your content always 🙏 and will continue to do so. It saddens me this happened to you, however, its happening to many others as well. Stay Safe 🇺🇸🇺🇲
I’m guessing it’s a KOA, I was kicked out of a KOA as a seasonal when they bought it from a private seller. We were not the only ones. We followed all the rules, but we complained about 5 year olds driving golf carts, adults driving drunk, loose dogs, & ridiculous rate hikes. They bought it for 5.5 million dollars so I’m happy I didn’t have to help them pay for it.😂
Their corporate mafia can't be bigger than their customer base. I encourage everyone to post a review of their stay good or bad and let's see how that works for them.
So true. You're afraid to say ANYTHING on social media these days for fear of it offending someone. It saddens me that freedom of speech is slowly being taken away from us.
You are absolutely correct. Between that and the amount of hate comments from viewers on UA-cam (across all channels) , it is quite obvious that social media has become disgusting. We personally know a 71 year old Vanlife UA-camr, that got so much hate for simply living that she stopped making videos altogether - such a shame
In real life it is the same. I was going to back out of a parking stall but noticed a woman super close with the door open. Obviously I startled her so I rolled down my window and said “ Oh excuse me” but before I could apologize for startling her a man started yelling at me not to talk to her or his child! Society is broken for sure.
You are my favorite UA-cam RV channel now. Honestly I'm sick of pretentious channels that can't be honest in their reviews for campgrounds, gear, etc. Hubby and I went full time before family needs required us to park for a long while...then covid hit. we are picking up our new RV tomorrow to do over. Keep it real, keep it classy. No need to mince words we are too old for that. Its called adulting...guess its time 😊
I live in a park model down in BlackRock RV, in Brenda Arizona, I know some parks down here will not allow RVers that have RV channels, The parks do not want content creators possibly showing "Less Then Favorable" content. The park I live in is really chill. But some are real ignorant about things like that. Heck come out to Quartzsite this winter, we will meet and have coffee.
I'm a retired RV dealer. We had a customer that begged for a very cheap RV to live in. We all know it needed work. We immediately got threats from her neighbors old RV that needed work. We already did her DMV work so I sent to repair men down there to help her. They came back immediately and said she started a petition to sue the the RV Park. They trespassed her the next day! That is the last we heard from her 🥴
We live in a really weird time when everything someone does seems to offend someone else. There is usually no rhyme or reason . This really is crazy because of how long ago it was. I hope my hubby and i can travel in the future like yall do. Godspeed and safe travels.
Word of mouth is an effective way to convey experiences. Eventually the word gets out whether it was good or bad. Businesses have been successful or diminished on word of mouth alone. Posting to social media is not necessary. There was a day when people actually spoke to each other face to face. 🤣
I've been to several parks myself. A lot of them come right out and ask to be reviewed. The company you were dealing with obviously don't need to be in this business if they are going to get butt hurt about any bad reviews. If I only see good reviews, that's usually a red flag to me.
You two are fantastic. Any respectable business will accept constructive criticism and go out of their way to make it right, within reason. I understand that some people aren’t reasonable and just want to get something for nothing but you good people don’t come across as being that way.
I saw a video recently from Australia where a guy gave a review based on his real experience about some overlanding electrical power equipment. The company is suing him because of the facts based opinion he expressed online. Reviews have kept me from buying bad products and staying at sketchy locations. Back in April we were on our way home from TX and stayed in a Marriott Courtyard. I should have checked the reviews because the place in Amarillo TX was a dump. We gave them a 1-star review and that was generous. After we left we saw that the recent reviews were all terrible. Now, even with Marriott we check the reviews to make sure it's not something we should avoid.
Honestly I would rather see a honest review then a sugar coated review. My RV is a 1999 Holiday Rambler and I bought her damaged, we have fixed the damage but not to most RV park’s liking, which sucks because we would love to stay at RV parks once in a while. We do a lot of boon-docking. It sucks that people are getting punished for being honest. ❤ new subscriber!
So sad but true , and it's not just this situation but other types of situations as well it can happen on any platform of the Internet you just never know
Bob and Kerri, my wife and I are owners in a Co-Op campground and to answer a question you said in your video, campgrounds are able to “Red Flag” customers who have been or are possible problem customers. So yes campgrounds are inter- connected.
I PUTS A BAD REVIEW ABOUT A CAMPGROUND AND THEN THE HOST CAME TO MY CAMPER AND ASKED ME WHY I PUT MY REVIEW IN & THEY WEREN'T HAPPY BUT, I WASN'T HAPPY WITH MY STAY THERES, I WAS FREAKING SCARED AND I DIDN'T CARE WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY TO ME BUT, I DON'T HAVES A YT CHANNEL ! & IT WAS ON MY FB PAGE ! & NOT MANY PEOPLE FOLLOWS ME EITHERS ! LOL I JUST TOLD THEM GET OFF OF MY FB PAGE AND STOP STALKING ME AND THEY LEFT ME ALONE !
I'm so sorry you're going through this The past is the past At least when I embark on my journey in the RV or small van life you've educated me in this matter Thank you Y'all are amazing ❤
Good information guys. There is another issue with reviews. My wife and I were Full Timers for just over 2 1/2 years, and we work-camped in RV parks. One thing we noticed is RV parks aren't enforcing their own rules because they are too afraid to get a bad review online. We've seen it happen over & over again. JT
We saw that exact same thing at Thousand Trails Parks. We will say we see more rules enforced at smaller private campgrounds /resorts. Safe Travels, Karri
If I might suggest: You have a LOT of campgrounds visited under your belts soooo... Send out invites to all of them to view your channel and ask if they would like a visit and a review. Your business is legit, and your rig looks great. Keep standing on the hind legs, Nothing, and NO ONE to fear. And YES! Small campgrounds ROCK! My parents lived the RV life and even managed one close to the Winstar in Oklahoma. They loved the life and didn't take crap from anyone. They have both passed away, and I feel that they would have been very proud to have known you. I think of the stories you and your wife might have swapped with them, and it makes me smile.
WOW - every once in a while, a comment comes over that reminds us why we make content on UA-cam - THIS comment is one of those! Thank You for such kind words, sounds like your parents were amazing :)
This is so concerning. I would get attorney, advocate advice as it is one thing to ask you to leave for "any' reason, it is another to carry that threat to their sister campgrounds use it to intimidate you and make your life unsafe all in all. Get professional advice on how to name them- as freedom of speech, your life experiences are yours to share. God Bless both of you.
I complained about the way a Gestapo Security Guard was treating a lady (nothing to do with us) at the West Yellowstone KOA and the Manager (Simp/Beta Male) ordered us to leave and even call the Gallatin County Sheriffs office. We have never stayed at another KOA again.
That’s pretty sad and a very petty thing for that campground to do. Threatening to be blacklisted for an honest review is the lowest of the low. I have not had that happen, but I don’t blame you for being upset. It was definitely uncalled for. I wish you all the best in your future travels. I enjoy your channel.
I've never heard of your channel until a few minutes ago, but I have heard of this type of thing happening to other campers. I'd be very interested in the final outcome.
If an RV park does not want bad reviews then they should always be on their A game. When choosing a park we always read reviews and also try and find a video about the park if we are going for a week or more. Thanks for sharing your experience. Makes you wonder how good the reviews will be from now on 🤦🏼♀️
The interesting part of UA-cam video reviews is that a great portion were invited for free to stay and review the park. We turn down about 3 a month. One large channel we know of has NEVER turned it down and even gives info for parks that want them to stay and do a review - those reviews (of course) NEVER say anything bad.
I can honestly say that in the 30 plus years I have been camping. I have never been asked to leave a camp ground. I have had officers come out for a number of different things but not once have I been asked to leave. Stay safe out there as always
Is It...is there tenant laws?...I rent a property and have rights...sort of have ownership rights...but I am seriously asking about rental rights in a RV park as a renter...ones I know that do month to month...the renter have rights als...might be state regulated...🤷♂️
I've heard of people being used for sharing a negative of a restaurant and getting sued and losing in a courtcase, ending up owing $$$$! So you are very wise to be careful and not provide details. I would find that difficult to do... Such a crazy world. Good luck!
When I was working as an independent plumber, I kept a "Never Ever" list of particularly troublesome clients. I didn't advertise, relying entirely on word of mouth referrals. I always asked a new client about how they heard of me. If the contact was a person from my never ever list, I wouldn't work for that person. I wouldn't be surprised at all if other businesses kept the same sort of list. In this incident, they already entered into a contract and took your money. I don't think they should retroactively cancel that contract especially if you didn't break that contract. I'd say you could sue them, but the money you could get wouldn't be worth the time and trouble. I would be blasting this park's name on the internet so people could avoid it, (but that's just me).
You should have some fun and investigate the owners via GIS data. Then you can find out what other parks they own or what other shell companies they have. I always say, follow the money. Then you will know where to bypass or have more fun with.
Don't get discouraged keep putting out your content. Don't let the haters put you down, otherwise they win and control you. You guys do what's right. And are up front with people. I don't understand why we live in such a sensitive world where people can't take even a small amount of criticism. My opinion has always been if it offends you, you need to be able to brush it off or maybe look at it as you may need to change something. I love your channel and your content 🎉 . Just keep it up and i believe you have many supporters other than just me united Rvers stand together no matter ♥️.
Thank you so much for the kind words! This video was intended as an update for our core audience and apparently has been taking off and attracting an audience that is very mean lol - WE APPRECIATE YOU!
At least you're able to find out who was kicking you out and that they're blackmailing you to not saying anything. I do hope it comes out 1 day because it'll hit them back hard.
These are very sad times- I absolutely appreciate when anyone lets us know whether their experience was good or bad. Shameful that people are being bullied into staying silent
That one channel who goes to bat over poor Rv build quality has been threatened by lawyers too. I forgot the name but apparently the companies like to bully people and take advantage of people by building junk. You’re not alone. Only choice is to lawyer up for discrimination.
In the entertainment and gaming industry there's a frowned upon process where journalists get extra access to companies if they are not negative toward the companies products. If they are, they are blacklisted. It's called "Access Journalism". Sounds like the same, just a different version, for the camping/RV industry.
Absolutely! A lot of free stays in return for positive feedback are given out to large UA-cam channels. A good way to know is that they are always staying at the best spots and always give a glowing review
Yes we need to know the name of this park and location so that the rest of us can avoid them. I don't want to stay somewhere that would do something like this
Don't feel bad. My family is proudly banned from 3 rv parks. The first park my wife is banned when I married her came along with the married. Second park like you I left a bad review the camp site power station did not work and.my rv was.not able to fit on the lot THEY lied about.😂😂 I got into it with the owners❤. The third I will alway be proud of away be paired to defend your family and home it's why I carry.
I once was at a campground up north and since im a surfer I had a surf naked sticker on my back window of my car and someone saw it and complained about it to the office the owner came over and said either cover it up or leave i told him im not covering it up and if you throw me out i want a refund then i pointed out 6 other campsites and told him they are going to expect refunds as well because we're a group he didn't say another word and just walked away
"I'm a surfer" does not normally equal "so I have a Surf Naked sticker" - I'm just saying. I am all for everyone's right to free speech. I have used the risqué bumper stickers and decals (like yours) that we've been subjected to seeing as tools to educate my kids on their rights. But I also included in the lessons a part on being respectful in public. It doesn't mean you lose your 1st Amendment rights, it's just simple respect for everyone around you. I think your parents skipped that part of the conversation with you. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
This is what happens when "everything" is owned by few corporations! They've used their money to band together against their customers because they know there is power in numbers! However, we still outnumber them! And though I wouldn't leave a PAPER/digital trail, I would make sure that their name and corporate tactics got out to the public because after all, we all like to give the middle finger to the man!!😝😂
I got a long story. Was walking my dog in a CG and passed a man and his dog. Man had a oak baton in his procession and as we passed my dog trailing behind me decides to stop and play with his dog. I turn to see what she is doing and I see the man hits my dog with the baton. I grabbed him and took the baton and cussed him out, Since I grabbed him he calls the law and says we attached him. A eye witness confirmed to the law the man was hitting my dog before I turned around. Law say I was wrong in touching him. I said he hit my dog. One year later a trial by jury finds me not guilty thankfully. The county passed it to the State of Florida and they pursued it. $10000 for a criminal lawyer. So I own a $10000 Golden Doodle.
this is exactly why we didn't name this park in this particular video and glad we didn't as we never expected the video to have this many views. People asking to burn it down have no idea how much lawyer costs are!
I would have went to jail by using his weapon against him. That is another reason to have your dog "heel" by your side when walking. No leading or tagging behind. Did you get him for animal abuse? I would have.
@@Wonderingwoman1 When I received the call from law enforcement that I had a Court summons I called the number for animal cruelty. The Lee County Sherriff Dept. played it off. Says to me after describing what took place the officer says well you probably startled him and I said you know fellow thats the same excuse that asshole said to me. I guess his dog barking at us meant nothing to him. I now make my dog walk beside me and we stop to let dogs that look aggressive clear us before we move. Two years later I have since been attacked by a German Sheppard and the family never did a thing or never apologize so I reported them to CG and found out they were told to muzzle the dog and they didn't so they were removed from the park. Me and my sweet little Golden Doodle are just trying to get our walks in my wife says I'm a magnet for trouble, I think its dogs smell that Star is passive and non agreesive and mess with her. Only thing I can come up with.. My lawyer says after court, Rush just count it as a win and let it go. It would be more costly than its worth to pursue getting our money back. So I hand it over to my God and let him handle it.
If you are stuck for a place to set up near Myrtle Beach, let me know. You’re welcome anytime to the creek! Crooked Oaks looks beautiful, glad you got a spot!
Just watched the follow up vid about your mis adventure at the RV park due to scammers. Love the channel so far. Sorry Karri got so fired up, although she had every right. Mistakes happen and had the errant RV parks' main office been upfront about WHY you were asked to leave, it possibly could have been rectified then and there. That said, there are just too many idiots in corporate offices these days. Kudos to you both for handling this WAYYYY better than I would have. Don't be afraid of telling folks the truth about your experiences. Good Luck and happy trails.
I stay at the State Park on HWY 17. Gate closes at 10 pm but you stop at guard shack to get the no. that opens the gate. Huge private beach. My daughter stay at the one with amusement way more expensive!!
I'm no expert on this. But I do remember someone doing a video or making a comment about, even if it were a privately owned park because they rent spaces to tenents they fall under HUD regulations and as such can't just deny service to anyone they want for no reason. Image if you were black and the owners white and they told you to get out or refused you service and had no evidence you did something wrong(illegal) or against park rules. Some have rules about picking up after your pets or noisey dogs they fine you and if you refuse to pay the fine they will throw you out. You probably signed a form when you checked in but I doubt it says you can't do review videos about our park system. You should ask your lawyer about the HUD regulations for landlords. Safe travels and enjoy the journey.
I worked for a journal once that refused to publish negative reviews. The editor said, There are enough good things out there that people don't know about to waste the time talking something down.
Don’t let those jealous haters push you around. Put them on blast so everyone knows how they did you dirty. I would urge everyone to ask them if they are intending to push them out like Bob and Carry every time they park their rigs just so they know you can’t do things like this for NO legitimate reason.
While we appreciate your support, the better option for us was to remain silent- you will be surprised at the conclusion of this - hope to have that video out in a couple of weeks. Be well, Karri
You guys are so real ! I was a switch crew member gave what thought was a compliment! Wow. A rockstar rig !! Omg the hate that I received from Tod and Sheila was crazy. ! I donated monthly! Switch crew is like a mega church!! You guys are the only channel my wife and I follow!
I am surprised at how much negativity people spew. So I was going to say thank you. Thank you for the honesty and information. I think you guys are great!!
What you can do is pull over due to truck issues on the street out front and film it all not saying a world about the campground. Be sure and film all around you👍🏻
At this point we are hoping to resolve it peacefully and without getting blacklisted from a network. We are full timers and rely on Rv parks and resorts. We honestly don't want any trouble and were just trying to update our loyal viewers.
This is happening to UA-camrs in all types of categories. Recently DCS batteries sued an Australian UA-cam channel for an honest review they didn’t like - despite the fact that an Australian government review came to similar conclusions. And unfortunately that is not an isolated instance. I actually think it’s important to bring these issues to the public’s attention as many people use UA-cam for research on products and services.
At least they did refund your money., and No one went to jail. :-) It's stupid for something that happened years ago. You would think they would say: Let's fix this issue on why we got a bad review. Look on the bright side- You have a nice smaller campground that is excited for you two to be there! As always thank you for posting this. Sorry people just suck. Take care you two!
CONCLUSION TO THIS STORY HERE ---------------------------> ua-cam.com/video/E3ARlJeiZk8/v-deo.html
You just keep on doing you. People trust you and that's what matters! The only places that would treat you so negative are the ones with something to hide!! You have a legal freedom of speech and if these shady places don't like it, they are only hurting themselves!!! Let them "blacklist" you because retaliation and discrimination is illegal and rest assured they WILL NOT like the consequences that comes from it and that would be an extremely stupid and ignorant business move because word of mouth is a very powerful thing and anyone with followers who do legit and honest work, will always prevail! Its just a campground and in this day, age, and economy especially, people depend on those reviews moreso now than ever before!
Check out the update video!
One word - integrity.
As a former park manager who supervised 5 separate campgrounds, I can tell you that we appreciated bad reviews the same as good. How else were we supposed to make our camper's experience better.
I think you should be absolutely honest about your reviews, AND publicly out this campground and the corporation or entity behind it. Why? Because that's the only way this kind of crappy business practices will stop. I think you'd be surprised by how many will ban this business.
Again - integrity.
You shouldn't be afraid to honestly evaluate a property.
AND, it shows great integrity on your part to protect fellow campers and consumers from this type of shady operations.
IMHO
While we totally agree with you, for now we are going to take our attorney’s advice and remain quiet.
@@liferedesignedlisten to your attorney
A great way to look at it ! Ways to improve are never bad !
New here but totally agree! God asks us to be honest & fear no evil or enemy! Especially Christians!! Stand out from the wickedness of the world & make a difference‼️
There is a PayPal link in the video description if you would like to donate if we were to be sued. Seriously though, it is called libel and we prefer to not spend our time or money on court fees only to serve people that have no clear concerns for us.
Actually NOT naming them was the smartest thing we did - the conclusion to this will cover that. Remember as we said in the video, no review was ever made of their properties.
Safe Travels
Karri
This poorly run and managed campground needs to be publicly identified.
Tell us which campground so we can avoid them, Please??
*AGREE!*
They won't because they're hiding the real reason
@redbaron474 - C'mon big shot, don't be a "wimp" as you put it - share the "real reason" since you clearly know so much.
First, you insult us, then our faith and you continue to hide behind a keyboard slinging nonsense - here is you chance ... Expose Us!
I heard them mention KOA, so any/all KOA campgrounds can/will pull this crap. Sounded like a 'corporate' decision. Tread lightly out there.
If a place is afraid of being reviewed, there's probably a good reason!!
anyone that does not appreciate bad reviews along with the good does not want to improve and does not deserve campers.
Another way to look at it, name the park so we can blacklist them.
Waiting on the “all clear” from our lawyer. Not that we want to return there but we need to protect ourselves so we don’t get shut out every place
@@liferedesignedyou already have been blacklisted from the rest of list.. so look up the network so you know
We know the network and it is LARGE, we feel confident that our family attorney can clear this up. Our video reviews of campgrounds are very mild and nothing damaging was ever said on video. We are starting to believe this is a misunderstanding.
@@liferedesigned why did you delete my comment it was mild and not divisive. You kicked me out of the comment section was that to a misunderstanding. I just want to say I've been kicked out of the comments section exactly in the same way you've been kicked out of the park
not sure what you are talking about, you are obviously not kicked out as you are able to leave this comment 😊. We got flooded with tons of comments at once- maybe it never made it to us? UA-cam has a lot of hiccups.
As a former park ranger we always wanted reviews good or bad that always told us what we need to improve on. And how we could make things better for Park visitors, if you cannot be open minded, and tell the truth about rv parks and how it can be improved or if there’s any safety issues that need to be addressed. Nobody likes bad reviews, but that your chance to turn a negative into a positive and come out strong and promote your Park.
we agree 100%! Just wait until you see the conclusion to this ... even more bizarre!
park ranger? government, right? private places don't give a damn about improvements. Just shut up or leave. nice, eh?
@@bevfrench3496Just shut up or leave. nice, eh? More common sense
As a retired attorney, I understand the exact “eviction” rules vary from state-to-state, but here’s the thing. Since they are corporate, and they say their corporation is ordering you to be evicted, then the location isn’t involved. They are merely passing along the order. But the corporation itself is the one that caused you damage and inconvenience. I assume you’ve retained a lawyer from your reference to waiting to get that opinion before you name the place. The lawyer ought to consider where it would be best for you to file a lawsuit. Filing a lawsuit may be necessary to obtain their “full attention.” They offered you a stay, and you prepaid evidently for one month, then they cancelled and evicted you for no good reason. That caused you to be damaged. Their corporate “network” should also be held to account for spreading false and/or misleading claims about you two. Whether or not you name them, you ought to try to obtain vindication and also a promise not to disseminate that information to others. A court could order that and retain jurisdiction in case they violate the agreement. Anyway, assuming the facts are as you represent, then what they did was pretty bad. BTW the 1st Amendment applies against the federal, state and local government, not corporations or private persons. There are other laws that make it more likely they are in trouble with your attorney.
Hi Bill, Thank you for your input. Hopefully everyone reads this comment.
We respect their right to refuse service as a private property. We have zero issue with them asking us to leave.
The issue here was simply the blacklist reference as well as the fact that we never reviewed any of their properties.
While we can’t go into further details currently, the amount of people demanding that we release the name and “expose” them is extremely concerning.
Your explanation is spot on.
We look forward to providing an update within the next couple of weeks
@@liferedesigned They gave up the "right to refuse service" to you when they entered into a contract for a month's stay and took your money. Changing their mind and refunding you doesn't change that. It takes two to tango in canceling a contract.
California and some other states have laws against review extortion. This would (in my not a lawyer-eze) run afoul of those laws. Lawyer up.@@liferedesigned
Very well presented Sir. I’m sure it is appreciated by the couple.
Unless in public with public access then they have zero right to privacy and as an atty one would think you'd make that extremely clear in today's tyrant policing
As soon as you get the all-clear, please name this park. RVers and campers need to know.
PLEASE!!
I wouldn't wait for an "All Clear" that may never come. Just tell us who it is. They can't blacklist you from EVERY campground in the country. They're bluffing and playing games . Don't fall for it!
More than the park. Name the management company. Anyone that punishes someone for a bad review really shouldn’t be in business. They should reach out to you for details and update you on how they made changes so,other guests don’t get your experience.
Rotten egg smell and rotten egg MB camp ground
@@hedykarim3614somewhere sulfurous are you saying
We are Camp Hosts and know for a Fact that the owners put up fake reviews. Thanks for bringing us along :)
We have heard that from quite a few hosts over the years. Our favorite is the ones that offer us free stays for a positive review. We have turned every offer down
Wow! Not surprised. I don’t camp but I have a cousin and wife who are also camp hosts and just tour around America and Canada all the time. Not my kind of life but they love it
@@liferedesignedthat’s probably why you’re being black listed.
Wow. Like fake reviews on Amazon or any website, I guess. You can buy reviews and pay for positive press announcements. I worked for a high-tech company that couldn't get any media attention so the president decided to purchase an interview from a tech magazine... it blew my mind at the time. It was all fake. Bogus info.
They are easy to spot. I only look at negative reviews, it's also easy to spot fake negatives from competitors. Too many business operate off the "screw them once" principle.
Same thing is happening with those who are speaking out about poorly constructed RV's. There is a YT channel that tries to be a voice for those who cannot get the RV companies to answer their complaints and that woman has been threatened with legal action if she assists others. She's not backing down. I appreciate your honest video!
Just a friendly word about that channel - take it all with a grain of salt.
@@liferedesigned What? “…word about that channel - take it all with a grain of salt.” What are you talking about. I know Liz Amazing and you don’t know what you’re talking about. She’s doing great work.
Kathy, if you feel entertained by her channel that is all that matters. We simply stated our opinion, Last I checked we were still entitled to do so. It does not mean you have to agree with us. #WeMissPaul
@liferedesigned I liked Liz Amazing at first, as it seemed like a good RVing channel, but I became uninterested and stopped watching as it seemed to take a downward turn and focus on the dramatics.
@@Tia.H that's unfortunate because some people work hard to create honest and informative content. Someone going for the dramatics kind of ruins it.
Ridiculous. An honest review of a campground is an honest review, and you shouldn’t be turned away for it!
And the kicker is - we are still trying to find out what place it was as none of our reviews were really bad - the world is a crazy place!
🤣!! Keep making honest content! It sure is!
It looks like they think that it’s you when it was somebody else maybe? So we have stupidity on top of corporate monopolization. What a delicious recipe.😮
thank you 🙏 i’m sorry. i’ve moved many times at a moments notice from discrimination for my disabilities and my YT channel. It’s the most HORRIBLE feeling to be told “YOU CANT STAY HERE” as a disabled veteran with service animal. it’s horrific how public and private entities treat people because “they don’t like it” keep on keeping on. deeja. thanks 🙏 for being truthful and transparent and helpful. I appreciate you. ❤
First: Thank You for your service!
We don't advertise our youtube channel for exactly this reason. We have heard horror stories from park owners about threats from youtubers if they don't get their way. Ruins it for the rest of us for sure
@@liferedesigned it is its own "eco system" hehe. Fair winds and Following seas. Thanks for responding, blessings on your travels.
That’s awful.
Companies are supposed to take those bad reviews and improve that issue for future guests.
Thank you for sharing with clarity and honesty.
Enjoy all you do in life guys✌🏽👽
Sorry, that happened to you.This country of ours has turned ultra.Sensitive about anything that said it's really scary
Another way to look at this is…..if the RV park was doing things the way they should be, they would welcome you with open arms and know that your review (if any) would benefit them. The fact that they don’t want you in their park for fear of a bad review speaks for itself. I had an extremely bad experience several years ago in a city campgrounds and I am not a UA-camr! But my very lengthy review on Google still gets read to this day.
100% agree ❤️
Wow. Just wow! Thanks for sharing this story. It's helpful to be more aware of the pitfalls of life on the road, and how few protections there are for travelers. Conversely, squatters are occupying private homes all over the U.S. -- sometimes high end properties -- and the authorities are refusing to kick them out, telling the owners THEY have no rights, but the squatters DO! What a bunch of insanity we are currently dealing with, and growing exponentially in the last 4 to 6 years. 🤬
Thanks for sticking up for your rights. We are under attack by an ideology that was agreed-upon. Keep up the great work.💪🏻🇨🇦👍🏻
They shouldn’t ask for reviews if they don’t want to hear a negative opinion. Thats the point of asking, so they can fix the problems for the next person.
I was a patient in a hospital for surgery and had horrible care to the point that I became unresponsive. They refused to give me any pain medication, even a Tylenol, or an ice pack despite major surgery. I asked for a comment card on the way out and they wouldn’t give me one. With my follow up appointment with my surgeon who does the majority of his cases at this hospital, I told him that I was still upset about the care (he was off call that weekend) and he wasn’t aware of everything else that had happened. About a week later, I never heard from the hospital but didn’t receive the bill that I expected so I called. Apparently, the bill was ‘resolved’. Surgical procedures are the bread and butter for these hospitals so the surgeon’s involvement did more than what my comment card would have done. If I had been able to leave my comment, I would have been fine with just leaving my opinion and nothing else was done. As a hospital nursing supervisor of a different hospital, I would be asked to meet with unhappy patients or family members and always appreciated their feedback. Improvement comes not from praise, but rather from deficiencies.
I work for the court system and I see people evicted for the craziest reasons. When I saw this it really infuriated me how they can get away with this. Thank you for sharing your experience. New subscriber and hoping you can be a voice for people that have no voice. God Bless
Thank you and welcome to the journey!
Viewers want honest reviews from influencer s. If a company doesn't want bad reviews then keep a nice, kept up campground. As long as you tell the facts. the truth and not slander a company you can give honest reviews. Don't let people like this bully you into posting anything else or not posting. In fact you should add to the post how you were bullied over posting an honest reviews of the campground
This is the new generation of people who are doing this. Not only to RV traveling but also to most anyone that has hurt their feelings or not kissed their feet even though this new generation hasn’t earned a good review or they aren’t doing their job as is expected. They are whinny kids that can and will use the internet to communicate bad things about someone if that someone “hurts their feelings “, or doesn’t kiss their feet as mommy and daddy did. They can do no wrong. They are mean and abusive to older generations. I promise you nothing would have been said if you were less than 25 years old. It’s awful how they treat people and they should be black listed from all RV travelers
That’s an overall appraisal of it, anywhere you go.
@@FloridaProud7684bingo
This is the reason when we start RVing boon docking as much as possible.
Everyone has their preferred method of RVing - just remember that each of them come with their unique set of problems.
Safe Travels
Unbelievable!!!! My wife and I are about 2 years into the RV lifestyle, and have stayed at 2 parks that were absolutely horrendous. We do not have a youtube channel, but only word of mouth to get the word out. I hate to see Constitutional rights trampled on. Would love to know the name of this park, so we can avoid it at all costs.
Once we have the situation resolved so that we don't jeopardize our ability to stay places we will provide an update. This video was really only intended for our small channel's loyal viewers that noticed gaps in our timeline and was meant as a way to update them. We NEVER thought it would have received as much attention as it has.
This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with constitutional rights, but everything to do with bad business. This park deserves to be boycotted to the point it goes out of business.
As stated by others, Freedom of Speech, a Constitutitional Right, has to do only with the government, Fed., State, County, Local. If you say something about a company that isn't true and they were damaged by your words, they can sue you. Example: Fox "News" promoting election lies and having guests on their shows that promoted election lies. In particular, the lie that votes were changed from Trump to Biden by certain voting machines. One voting machine company sued Fox, and from deposition testimony, text messages, and emails of on-air personalities, producers, and the owner, it was abundantly clear that they decided to lie to their viewers and they allowed and promoted the lies told by guests. Fox had to pay Dominion Voting approximately $800 Million for lying about their company's product. There is no freedom of speech to slander someone. But, these people and the RV Park has its own issues, and it sounds like these good people are doing their best to resolve things the best they know how. I will come back to find out just how, and I hope they will be all smiles.
What they did to you is vile. Congrats on 25 years!🎉❤🥳
😊@@Crimedog1286
Man I am so happy that I boondock 100% of the time. And you are right in that this kind of thing will intentionally stifle honest RV park reviews if the review is not positive.
I love that you had a goal to embarrass your kids.
My dad used to embarrass me all the time, but I look back at some of the things he did and he was really very funny and he still is at 93. To have a Colonel in the US Air Force, at Shakey's Pizza Parlor with his family, singing along with the player piano, and walking around the restaurant to the other tables holding out a mug for tips for his singing... Yes, my Dad. So, I was often embarrassed by him, but looking backat my own life, I am so much like him in so many ways, and more than anyone else I look a bit like him (as he looked like his father).
Such a great story, sounds like you have an awesome father!
Why would you be embarrassed by your father playing the player piano...people are strange
This is exactly why I do not use nor trust reviews for anything out there at all and never will!! They aren’t honest, truthful reviews!
Much respect for you two bringing this to light. My opinion on this ridiculous and obsurd fashion of bulling ? This is America, we are FREE to inform, bitch, complain and write any sort of diatribe we please. This behavior can never be tolerated. We all depend on reviews for "Truth"... It seems nothing anymore out there is honest or ethical. I am not coming down on you, however, this is becoming a big problem and we need to find the integrity to shut the bullying down. I enjoy your content always 🙏 and will continue to do so. It saddens me this happened to you, however, its happening to many others as well.
Stay Safe 🇺🇸🇺🇲
you can do all these things only as long as you don't stick your nose where it doesn't belong like a good boy
I’m guessing it’s a KOA, I was kicked out of a KOA as a seasonal when they bought it from a private seller. We were not the only ones. We followed all the rules, but we complained about 5 year olds driving golf carts, adults driving drunk, loose dogs, & ridiculous rate hikes. They bought it for 5.5 million dollars so I’m happy I didn’t have to help them pay for it.😂
Not a KOA as they are definitely not affordable for full time living. We have heard many stories like yours though - sorry you had to go through that
Was it the one by Glacier National Park? They’ve made a bunch of changes for the better I believe
We love the glacier KOA. Pricy though. @@wallashakalla
“ Complained” though what does that mean? Werer you bugging the manager multiple times complaining? They prob didnt want the headache.
Don't have any idea where you are but this is BS!
I have a relative who owns a campground and there is a blacklist, but it's generally used for "Local troublemakers" aka partiers.
Their corporate mafia can't be bigger than their customer base. I encourage everyone to post a review of their stay good or bad and let's see how that works for them.
We are confident that we will have this resolved shortly. Should have a video update within the next 2 videos.
LOL what kind of corporate clown has the time to sit and watch all the videos of their campers UA-cam channels ? What a sheet show of a company 😅
@@liferedesigned these are the monopolization nightmares that keep me awake - and I don’t even have a motorhome. lol
So true. You're afraid to say ANYTHING on social media these days for fear of it offending someone. It saddens me that freedom of speech is slowly being taken away from us.
You are absolutely correct. Between that and the amount of hate comments from viewers on UA-cam (across all channels) , it is quite obvious that social media has become disgusting.
We personally know a 71 year old Vanlife UA-camr, that got so much hate for simply living that she stopped making videos altogether - such a shame
In real life it is the same. I was going to back out of a parking stall but noticed a woman super close with the door open. Obviously I startled her so I rolled down my window and said “ Oh excuse me” but before I could apologize for startling her a man started yelling at me not to talk to her or his child! Society is broken for sure.
@@robertasmith7780 That poor woman. That is an abusive relationship for sure.
You are my favorite UA-cam RV channel now. Honestly I'm sick of pretentious channels that can't be honest in their reviews for campgrounds, gear, etc. Hubby and I went full time before family needs required us to park for a long while...then covid hit. we are picking up our new RV tomorrow to do over. Keep it real, keep it classy. No need to mince words we are too old for that. Its called adulting...guess its time 😊
Thank you and congrats on your new RV!! ❤️❤️
Honest reviews posted on Google are hard to beat.
I used to be a manager of an RV park and there are places where you can be added as people that parks should avoid.
Let’s blacklist that company!
Yeah and more crap from them❤
I live in a park model down in BlackRock RV, in Brenda Arizona, I know some parks down here will not allow RVers that have RV channels, The parks do not want content creators possibly showing "Less Then Favorable" content. The park I live in is really chill. But some are real ignorant about things like that. Heck come out to Quartzsite this winter, we will meet and have coffee.
Quartzsite is on our list for either 2025 or 2026!
@@liferedesigned Outstanding, Y'all be safe out there.
You as well!
We're the new BLM Volunteer Coordinators. See you in Q.
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We appreciate honest reviews regardless of petty confrontations . It would be helpful to know who's the petty culprit
I'm a retired RV dealer. We had a customer that begged for a very cheap RV to live in. We all know it needed work. We immediately got threats from her neighbors old RV that needed work. We already did her DMV work so I sent to repair men down there to help her. They came back immediately and said she started a petition to sue the the RV Park. They trespassed her the next day! That is the last we heard from her 🥴
We live in a really weird time when everything someone does seems to offend someone else. There is usually no rhyme or reason . This really is crazy because of how long ago it was. I hope my hubby and i can travel in the future like yall do. Godspeed and safe travels.
Endtimes scripture, easily offended
Word of mouth is an effective way to convey experiences. Eventually the word gets out whether it was good or bad. Businesses have been successful or diminished on word of mouth alone. Posting to social media is not necessary. There was a day when people actually spoke to each other face to face. 🤣
Those days are unfortunately long gone lol
I miss those days
I've been to several parks myself. A lot of them come right out and ask to be reviewed. The company you were dealing with obviously don't need to be in this business if they are going to get butt hurt about any bad reviews. If I only see good reviews, that's usually a red flag to me.
You two are fantastic. Any respectable business will accept constructive criticism and go out of their way to make it right, within reason. I understand that some people aren’t reasonable and just want to get something for nothing but you good people don’t come across as being that way.
The funny part about all of it is that we never really made a bad review video, at least not the we remember
I saw a video recently from Australia where a guy gave a review based on his real experience about some overlanding electrical power equipment. The company is suing him because of the facts based opinion he expressed online. Reviews have kept me from buying bad products and staying at sketchy locations. Back in April we were on our way home from TX and stayed in a Marriott Courtyard. I should have checked the reviews because the place in Amarillo TX was a dump. We gave them a 1-star review and that was generous. After we left we saw that the recent reviews were all terrible. Now, even with Marriott we check the reviews to make sure it's not something we should avoid.
Honestly I would rather see a honest review then a sugar coated review. My RV is a 1999 Holiday Rambler and I bought her damaged, we have fixed the damage but not to most RV park’s liking, which sucks because we would love to stay at RV parks once in a while. We do a lot of boon-docking. It sucks that people are getting punished for being honest. ❤ new subscriber!
Welcome to the journey!
Love our 2000 Rambler!
So sad but true , and it's not just this situation but other types of situations as well it can happen on any platform of the Internet you just never know
Bob and Kerri, my wife and I are owners in a Co-Op campground and to answer a question you said in your video, campgrounds are able to “Red Flag” customers who have been or are possible problem customers. So yes campgrounds are inter- connected.
We are seeing that more in the comments - very interesting
I PUTS A BAD REVIEW ABOUT A CAMPGROUND AND THEN THE HOST CAME TO MY CAMPER AND ASKED ME WHY I PUT MY REVIEW IN & THEY WEREN'T HAPPY BUT, I WASN'T HAPPY WITH MY STAY THERES, I WAS FREAKING SCARED AND I DIDN'T CARE WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY TO ME BUT, I DON'T HAVES A YT CHANNEL ! & IT WAS ON MY FB PAGE ! & NOT MANY PEOPLE FOLLOWS ME EITHERS ! LOL I JUST TOLD THEM GET OFF OF MY FB PAGE AND STOP STALKING ME AND THEY LEFT ME ALONE !
Put the RV park on line for people to not go there.
I'm so sorry you're going through this
The past is the past
At least when I embark on my journey in the RV or small van life you've educated me in this matter
Thank you
Y'all are amazing ❤
Good information guys.
There is another issue with reviews.
My wife and I were Full Timers for just over 2 1/2 years, and we work-camped in RV parks. One thing we noticed is RV parks aren't enforcing their own rules because they are too afraid to get a bad review online. We've seen it happen over & over again.
JT
We saw that exact same thing at Thousand Trails Parks. We will say we see more rules enforced at smaller private campgrounds /resorts.
Safe Travels,
Karri
@@liferedesigned
We have since sold our rv and bought a small 2 bedroom home in Barren County, Kentucky.
Kentucky is beautiful!
@liferedesigned
Yes it is. The people here have been wonderful to us too.
They should be black listed!
1000% !!
If I might suggest: You have a LOT of campgrounds visited under your belts soooo... Send out invites to all of them to view your channel and ask if they would like a visit and a review. Your business is legit, and your rig looks great. Keep standing on the hind legs, Nothing, and NO ONE to fear. And YES! Small campgrounds ROCK! My parents lived the RV life and even managed one close to the Winstar in Oklahoma. They loved the life and didn't take crap from anyone. They have both passed away, and I feel that they would have been very proud to have known you. I think of the stories you and your wife might have swapped with them, and it makes me smile.
WOW - every once in a while, a comment comes over that reminds us why we make content on UA-cam - THIS comment is one of those! Thank You for such kind words, sounds like your parents were amazing :)
This is so concerning. I would get attorney, advocate advice as it is one thing to ask you to leave for "any' reason, it is another to carry that threat to their sister campgrounds use it to intimidate you and make your life unsafe all in all. Get professional advice on how to name them- as freedom of speech, your life experiences are yours to share. God Bless both of you.
I complained about the way a Gestapo Security Guard was treating a lady (nothing to do with us) at the West Yellowstone KOA and the Manager (Simp/Beta Male) ordered us to leave and even call the Gallatin County Sheriffs office. We have never stayed at another KOA again.
It is sad. Stay strong and keep rolling ❤
That’s pretty sad and a very petty thing for that campground to do. Threatening to be blacklisted for an honest review is the lowest of the low. I have not had that happen, but I don’t blame you for being upset. It was definitely uncalled for. I wish you all the best in your future travels. I enjoy your channel.
Thank you for the kind words- safe travels!
Actually. You don't have to say their name. Just a photo of the campground property sign from the public roadway would do it.
No one wants violence against anyone, including this campground...I'm afraid that could happen, causing even more trouble for this couple
I've never heard of your channel until a few minutes ago, but I have heard of this type of thing happening to other campers. I'd be very interested in the final outcome.
If the outcome is what we think it is going to be --- it is crazy for sure!
this is a great video. people can learn that not all are welcoming to good people and the abuse of a little power.
If an RV park does not want bad reviews then they should always be on their
A game. When choosing a park we always read reviews and also try and find a video about the park if we are going for a week or more. Thanks for sharing your experience. Makes you wonder how good the reviews will be from now on 🤦🏼♀️
The interesting part of UA-cam video reviews is that a great portion were invited for free to stay and review the park. We turn down about 3 a month. One large channel we know of has NEVER turned it down and even gives info for parks that want them to stay and do a review - those reviews (of course) NEVER say anything bad.
I can honestly say that in the 30 plus years I have been camping. I have never been asked to leave a camp ground. I have had officers come out for a number of different things but not once have I been asked to leave. Stay safe out there as always
It was a first for us for sure - check out the update video, gets even crazier!
If it’s private property, they can ask you to leave for any reason or no reason.
Believe we covered that in the video - thanks for watching
Is It...is there tenant laws?...I rent a property and have rights...sort of have ownership rights...but I am seriously asking about rental rights in a RV park as a renter...ones I know that do month to month...the renter have rights als...might be state regulated...🤷♂️
I've heard of people being used for sharing a negative of a restaurant and getting sued and losing in a courtcase, ending up owing $$$$! So you are very wise to be careful and not provide details. I would find that difficult to do... Such a crazy world. Good luck!
Thank you! We are hopeful that this will be resolved quickly and peacefully.
Don't be scared. Keep up the good work.
Very sad to hear this. I appreciate you telling your story. Safe travels to you both.
Well that’s really petty of them. They are so afraid that their campground is crappy that they don’t want you there. They must have something to hide!
When I was working as an independent plumber, I kept a "Never Ever" list of particularly troublesome clients. I didn't advertise, relying entirely on word of mouth referrals. I always asked a new client about how they heard of me. If the contact was a person from my never ever list, I wouldn't work for that person. I wouldn't be surprised at all if other businesses kept the same sort of list.
In this incident, they already entered into a contract and took your money. I don't think they should retroactively cancel that contract especially if you didn't break that contract. I'd say you could sue them, but the money you could get wouldn't be worth the time and trouble. I would be blasting this park's name on the internet so people could avoid it, (but that's just me).
You should have some fun and investigate the owners via GIS data. Then you can find out what other parks they own or what other shell companies they have. I always say, follow the money. Then you will know where to bypass or have more fun with.
We have additional information that we are holding onto now until it is all sorted out 😀
Don't get discouraged keep putting out your content. Don't let the haters put you down, otherwise they win and control you. You guys do what's right. And are up front with people. I don't understand why we live in such a sensitive world where people can't take even a small amount of criticism. My opinion has always been if it offends you, you need to be able to brush it off or maybe look at it as you may need to change something. I love your channel and your content 🎉 . Just keep it up and i believe you have many supporters other than just me united Rvers stand together no matter ♥️.
Thank you so much for the kind words! This video was intended as an update for our core audience and apparently has been taking off and attracting an audience that is very mean lol - WE APPRECIATE YOU!
At least you're able to find out who was kicking you out and that they're blackmailing you to not saying anything. I do hope it comes out 1 day because it'll hit them back hard.
These are very sad times-
I absolutely appreciate when anyone lets us know whether their experience was good or bad.
Shameful that people are being bullied into staying silent
Check out the update video (link in the pinned comment) for the even crazier outcome.
Put them on notice! Spread the word!! Treat people with respect and know what you’re talking about!!! Bad form from the management!!
That one channel who goes to bat over poor Rv build quality has been threatened by lawyers too. I forgot the name but apparently the companies like to bully people and take advantage of people by building junk. You’re not alone. Only choice is to lawyer up for discrimination.
That one channel also over embellishes things for clicks. A good majority of the videos have no basis is reality.
In the entertainment and gaming industry there's a frowned upon process where journalists get extra access to companies if they are not negative toward the companies products. If they are, they are blacklisted. It's called "Access Journalism".
Sounds like the same, just a different version, for the camping/RV industry.
Absolutely! A lot of free stays in return for positive feedback are given out to large UA-cam channels. A good way to know is that they are always staying at the best spots and always give a glowing review
Yes we need to know the name of this park and location so that the rest of us can avoid them. I don't want to stay somewhere that would do something like this
Sorry, we are going to heed our attorney’s advice and stay quiet for the time being
Don't feel bad. My family is proudly banned from 3 rv parks. The first park my wife is banned when I married her came along with the married. Second park like you I left a bad review the camp site power station did not work and.my rv was.not able to fit on the lot THEY lied about.😂😂 I got into it with the owners❤. The third I will alway be proud of away be paired to defend your family and home it's why I carry.
I HAD 66 years with my honey, together 68.❤❤❤❤❤❤
That is a long time and amazing! We have been together 30 years and counting!
I once was at a campground up north and since im a surfer I had a surf naked sticker on my back window of my car and someone saw it and complained about it to the office the owner came over and said either cover it up or leave i told him im not covering it up and if you throw me out i want a refund then i pointed out 6 other campsites and told him they are going to expect refunds as well because we're a group he didn't say another word and just walked away
"I'm a surfer" does not normally equal "so I have a Surf Naked sticker" - I'm just saying.
I am all for everyone's right to free speech. I have used the risqué bumper stickers and decals (like yours) that we've been subjected to seeing as tools to educate my kids on their rights. But I also included in the lessons a part on being respectful in public. It doesn't mean you lose your 1st Amendment rights, it's just simple respect for everyone around you. I think your parents skipped that part of the conversation with you. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
This is what happens when "everything" is owned by few corporations! They've used their money to band together against their customers because they know there is power in numbers! However, we still outnumber them! And though I wouldn't leave a PAPER/digital trail, I would make sure that their name and corporate tactics got out to the public because after all, we all like to give the middle finger to the man!!😝😂
I got a long story. Was walking my dog in a CG and passed a man and his dog. Man had a oak baton in his procession and as we passed my dog trailing behind me decides to stop and play with his dog. I turn to see what she is doing and I see the man hits my dog with the baton. I grabbed him and took the baton and cussed him out, Since I grabbed him he calls the law and says we attached him. A eye witness confirmed to the law the man was hitting my dog before I turned around. Law say I was wrong in touching him. I said he hit my dog. One year later a trial by jury finds me not guilty thankfully. The county passed it to the State of Florida and they pursued it. $10000 for a criminal lawyer. So I own a $10000 Golden Doodle.
this is exactly why we didn't name this park in this particular video and glad we didn't as we never expected the video to have this many views. People asking to burn it down have no idea how much lawyer costs are!
I would have went to jail by using his weapon against him.
That is another reason to have your dog "heel" by your side when walking. No leading or tagging behind.
Did you get him for animal abuse? I would have.
Florida pursued what? Double jeopardy prevents you from being tried twice. The individual may pursue civil litigation......that's it.
@@Wonderingwoman1 When I received the call from law enforcement that I had a Court summons I called the number for animal cruelty. The Lee County Sherriff Dept. played it off. Says to me after describing what took place the officer says well you probably startled him and I said you know fellow thats the same excuse that asshole said to me. I guess his dog barking at us meant nothing to him. I now make my dog walk beside me and we stop to let dogs that look aggressive clear us before we move. Two years later I have since been attacked by a German Sheppard and the family never did a thing or never apologize so I reported them to CG and found out they were told to muzzle the dog and they didn't so they were removed from the park. Me and my sweet little Golden Doodle are just trying to get our walks in my wife says I'm a magnet for trouble, I think its dogs smell that Star is passive and non agreesive and mess with her. Only thing I can come up with.. My lawyer says after court, Rush just count it as a win and let it go. It would be more costly than its worth to pursue getting our money back. So I hand it over to my God and let him handle it.
Lee County handed it over to the State of Florida and to young Prosecutors handled it. They charged me with Battery Misdemeanor
Sorry to hear they gave you any grief.
If you are stuck for a place to set up near Myrtle Beach, let me know. You’re welcome anytime to the creek!
Crooked Oaks looks beautiful, glad you got a spot!
Awesome thank you!
So sorry this happened to you both, but it doesn't surprise me in this day, people are so angry about their life good luck and God Bless 😊
There is a point that a rv park is private and can deny entrance to anyone but they should have denied you when you were making your reservation.
Just watched the follow up vid about your mis adventure at the RV park due to scammers. Love the channel so far. Sorry Karri got so fired up, although she had every right. Mistakes happen and had the errant RV parks' main office been upfront about WHY you were asked to leave, it possibly could have been rectified then and there. That said, there are just too many idiots in corporate offices these days. Kudos to you both for handling this WAYYYY better than I would have. Don't be afraid of telling folks the truth about your experiences. Good Luck and happy trails.
Thank you! We’re just happy it was resolved between us and the park.
I stay at the State Park on HWY 17. Gate closes at 10 pm but you stop at guard shack to get the no. that opens the gate. Huge private beach. My daughter stay at the one with amusement way more expensive!!
Oh Wow thats Crazy!! Sorry to hear this!! Glad you guys are ok.
Been a crazy few weeks for sure but we are good!
Safe travels!
I'm no expert on this. But I do remember someone doing a video or making a comment about, even if it were a privately owned park because they rent spaces to tenents they fall under HUD regulations and as such can't just deny service to anyone they want for no reason. Image if you were black and the owners white and they told you to get out or refused you service and had no evidence you did something wrong(illegal) or against park rules. Some have rules about picking up after your pets or noisey dogs they fine you and if you refuse to pay the fine they will throw you out. You probably signed a form when you checked in but I doubt it says you can't do review videos about our park system. You should ask your lawyer about the HUD regulations for landlords. Safe travels and enjoy the journey.
I worked for a journal once that refused to publish negative reviews. The editor said, There are enough good things out there that people don't know about to waste the time talking something down.
Don’t let those jealous haters push you around. Put them on blast so everyone knows how they did you dirty. I would urge everyone to ask them if they are intending to push them out like Bob and Carry every time they park their rigs just so they know you can’t do things like this for NO legitimate reason.
While we appreciate your support, the better option for us was to remain silent- you will be surprised at the conclusion of this - hope to have that video out in a couple of weeks.
Be well,
Karri
You guys are so real ! I was a switch crew member gave what thought was a compliment! Wow. A rockstar rig !! Omg the hate that I received from Tod and Sheila was crazy. ! I donated monthly! Switch crew is like a mega church!! You guys are the only channel my wife and I follow!
Thank you- we are honored to have you along!
Be well and God Bless
@@liferedesigned I’m crazy drive a old class a gas with over 200k on the odometer!! Carry fire arms ! Even got guns in my aircraft!
Thank you for the warning. Sad we can’t be honest.
I am surprised at how much negativity people spew. So I was going to say thank you. Thank you for the honesty and information. I think you guys are great!!
Thank you for the kind words - this video and the audience it has attracted has been an eye opener for us
Thank you - the negativity is the worst we have seen in years. We try to take it all in stride!
That is so sad. That just tells me they have no integrity. They should be blacklisted. Thanks for your honesty.
Thanks Mel - appreciate you!
Wow …So crazy…Can’t believe people can be that way aye…I love both of you… Don’t stop your videos ❤❤❤❤
What you can do is pull over due to truck issues on the street out front and film it all not saying a world about the campground. Be sure and film all around you👍🏻
At this point we are hoping to resolve it peacefully and without getting blacklisted from a network. We are full timers and rely on Rv parks and resorts. We honestly don't want any trouble and were just trying to update our loyal viewers.
Be brave. It is, after all your opinion. You are entitled to your opinion. Tell your stories, as you want to, and ‘damn the torpedos’!💕
Sorry that happened to you. How about checking out the national forest campgrounds much cheaper and really nice.
This is happening to UA-camrs in all types of categories. Recently DCS batteries sued an Australian UA-cam channel for an honest review they didn’t like - despite the fact that an Australian government review came to similar conclusions. And unfortunately that is not an isolated instance. I actually think it’s important to bring these issues to the public’s attention as many people use UA-cam for research on products and services.
At least they did refund your money., and No one went to jail. :-) It's stupid for something that happened years ago. You would think they would say: Let's fix this issue on why we got a bad review. Look on the bright side- You have a nice smaller campground that is excited for you two to be there! As always thank you for posting this. Sorry people just suck. Take care you two!
Thank you- we take it all in stride 😀