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What she said about dealers and salespeople was too kind. No seriously, let's be honest, most dealers, and especially salespeople only pretend to care about the customer's needs, and are ALMOST ALWAYS more concerned with making the sale and the commission.
Seven states have full lemon laws for RVs, but many more have coverage excluding living quarters and/or under a weight limit. Google will bring up the list.
Also, what dealerships should understand is, this woman is actually helping them to avoid future customer headaches and negative reviews. Getting rid of the known problems before that thing leaves the lot keeps everyone happy. Rv inspectors help both the consumer and dealer.
I was a home inspector for several years and the realtors treated me like the dealers treat you. They hated it that I checked all of the little things that many inspectors didn't check and after a few years of getting no realtor referrals, I decided to quit the business. Beware of realtor-recommended home inspectors for the same reason you would not trust a dealer-recommended RV inspector.
Great info : ) I could've bought anything new, but opted for a 1994, 36 foot Holiday Rambler. All aluminum except the front and rear fiberglass. It was when Harley Davidson owned the company. Some things were actually over-built in the suspension (8 wheel) and no water leaks. Solid oak wood cabinets and huge Onan generator. Ford F-53 frame, Ford 460 engine with high performance add on items from the factory, 5 speed auto transmission etc. Rides like a luxury bus. No computers to shut things off :) Love it. Got it for $7,000 cash. Put about $1,000 in parts, and I do my own work so labor is free for me.
I purchased a used Newmar Baystar from an old guy who had owned it from new. When I purchased it, it was 10 years old but it only had 6000 miles on it because he and his wife would use it for a week each year. It had always been covered up, he showed me all the paperwork for the upgrades and the maintenance and in 6000 miles he had changed the oil about 10 times 😂 Taking care of it and his other plastic cars was basically his hobby. I couldn't believe the extra thing they did AFTER I'd paid for it. I wired the money and went to collect it on a Friday and I'd told him that I was going to take my family out in that weekend. He and his wife cleaned it from top to bottom, filled the fresh water tank, filled the gas tank, filled the fridge with sodas, beer, hot dogs, etc. Decorated it with balloons and July 4th banners pillows and blankets. They even bought new sheets for the master bed and switched them out and laundered the old ones and stowed them. When I said I can't believe it they both just said "Now you can take your family out tomorrow with no work." I stayed in touch with them and the first summer sent them photos of the 10,000 mile road trip we were on. I’ve owned it for three years now and put 35,000 miles on it with very few problems other than the normal generator issues (one which was TOTALLY my fault) and other small annoying things that happen because you’re driving a house thousands and thousands of miles.
I wish we would've hired an inspector. Our last purchase ever, not because of quality but being stuck with a piece of junk will forever turn us against RV industry forever. We bought a new Forrest River Puma in 2020. Within one year it had to be sent back to the manufacturer for a complete teardown and rebuild. But, the manufacturer said it was the dealers responsibility, and the dealer claimed it was the manufacturer's responsibility. We finally had to threaten to sue. You name it. Water heater dumping carbon monoxide into the cabin. Toilet leaking at base. Several water lines leaking. Shower pan split down the middle. Wallpaper peeling off. Trim falling off inside and out. Screws just simply backing out of their holes inside and out. Bolts popped off the tongue jack. Frame has had several recalls over complete failures at welded joints, sometunes near axles. Outdoor speakers failed. DVD player stopped working. Air conditioner stopped working. Three weeks later we got it back. Everything replaced or fixed. BUT. A year later, the slide out won't run out completely. There's a bulge developing in the metal siding on the outside top middle above the slide-out. The plumbing is leaking again. The outside trim they replaced is gone while towing, screws are backing out again. No one wants to fix it, again. So I take it to places that have RV shows and give free tours, showing the horrible manufacturer fails, I show them pictures of the previous failures, before the "rebuild". If I can stop just one family who is going to spend $30,000 or more on these doorstops with wheels, I'll feel vindicated. NEVER BUY A FOREST RIVER PRODUCT, YOU'LL REGRET IT IMMEDIATELY!
Do the research, hire an inspector and watch each and every episode in the Liz Amazing series … I have rewatched several in this series as I have viewed rigs and I really appreciate the expertise shared. Thanks, Liz.
I sold RVs at one point in my life. When people asked me who makes the best RV, I told them they are all equally poorly built and that is the reality. The industry warranty system is like the VA deny until the warranty is over or the vet is dead. If you think you bought "quality" from any company, you need help, they all sell garbage , some are just look better.
There is a huge market for used trailers that are 6 years old or older all because of the workers that made those older trailers cared about the job and the quality with self respect and honor of the work they did.
She explained the issues very well when Dutchman purchased Komfort in 2009 my neighbour bought a 2010 Dutchman/Komfort and he walked thru my 2006 Komfort and said how the difference in quality was downhill in comparison thanks Liz 😊
I have purchased an older caravan, 8 years old, fully built in Australia. On the money I have saved buying it new, I have been able to change any defects and have a full service from a caravan repairer. Very happy. Having it on a hoist, inspecting it thoroughly is worth every cent.
Yes ma'am! The wife kept wanting to get a newish (08) and up and I was DEAD set on something pre 2006. Ended up finding a 2005 Cardninal and it is SO well built compared to some of my families 2020 5th wheel. I am the 3rd owner and the previous 2 were older couples that never used it.. This thing has real wood cabinents, solid frames, heavy duty furniture and pex plumming. Super awesome.
I purchased a used 2011 KZ travel trailer in 2019, all original components till this day and tons of miles. Only issues were new tires and awning material this year. Rv has been awesome.
Everything they say is absolutely true. I've been in the RV industry for over 20 years and worked on the production floors of Trail Lite Forest River and Keystone. The quality has gotten so bad over the past 20 years. They try to use the cheapest products they can find
This was a very informative video, thanks Liz and Debbie! We recently purchased a 2005 Four Winds RV (Ford motor) from a family member. It has been very well taken care of. Solid wood Cabinet doors! We are doing some updating and pulled up the carpeting and linoleum flooring. I was expecting to see water damage, and the floors were dry, no signs of water damage at all! We expect to spend about 1,000 in renovations, (doing the work ourselves) and it will look brand new! And the best part, it is completely paid for!
I name names here! Trailers and fifth wheels built in 2018 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching. For more about what to buy used see my recent video where I name names: ua-cam.com/video/JSo5n2B62MA/v-deo.html
My neighbor was a day laborer one day and a week later he was a full train RV Technician! I had to pay $160/hr at RV Dealership for him to make $20/hr. You have to be able to identify the problem and fix it or call Ready Labor, or a skilled labor or some kid and tell them how to fix it for $10-$60/hr. That’s my reality.
I owned a 2003 Monaco and a 2004 Newmar and both were built like a Sherman Tank! I had very few issues and really it was just general maintenance. All these new electronic systems where if they fail other things fail is just a problem IMO. The frames on my RVs were excellent along with the slides. Leaks weren't an issue in thunderstorms. You can buy a pristine one for 60-70k now and I'd look for an owner who stores his RV undercover. I would never buy new or from a dealer!
I see both are from companies other than Thor. My wife was researching RVs to buy one but found all the ones in our price range were made by Thor. She (wisely) decided to give up the hunt.
I research for over a year before we purchased our coach. Six months prior to our purchase, we secured a garage for the coach to keep it protected from the Florida sun. Yes, we had the garage before we had the coach!!! We did have an inspection. It took the man 8 full hours and he only discovered a few very minor issues which the dealership corrected. We had (and I do recommend) all the fluids sent to an outside laboratory for analysis.
If I had known how horrible Camping World was I would have never purchased my pull behind trailer from them. Horrible customer service and they did a half a$$ inspection on the one we bought and lied to to us about our warranty. Lesson learned I just wish I had known about this page. Great information thank you
It is the manufacturers to blame for the warranty process, Camping World is just the biggest in the game.....if they wanted to they could change the industry. they saved Thor once.
Excellent info. I have learned in my 3 rv’s I have owned throughout the years. I bought my 2020 wolfpup in 2022 from a pp and they had already got the bugs out as you said. It already had a replacement refrigerator & water pump from the dealer. They also had an extended warranty that was transferred to me. I never buy New autos,RV’s or outdoor toys. The best deals are used.
Great guest and really makes the case for an inspection. Of course you have been saying this forever. If I was a dealer I would pay her to come in and do an inspection. Then I would get ALL employees together and go over the results. This would be on a rig that they "had ready for sale and delivery". Or I would have her do five and share the results on what was found and the repairs on how they fixed it with a potential customer. They might find this is a great selling point. Thanks for the video and enjoy your week.
Good video again Liz, finding someone who knows the inns and outs of the RV industry, bringing this to the forefront of the customers, yes I can say this was exactly what we needed to hear, Liz your Amazing! Stay safe out there!
There are so so SO many reasons I've decided to buy something used. Something from at least 2016 or before. I can always fix it up and add new things. At least I know it will last. Yeah, I'll have to do some major tech upgrades, but at least it won't fall apart on me for awhile. We are living in ours, and quality SERIOUSLY matters. We'll be getting something newer soon, and I'm crossing my fingers for finding something decent. Thanks so much for all you do, Liz. And for all the great information you share. Sometimes our lives and adventures depend on people like you, who take the time to inform and care.
Deb, don’t worry about making the dealers happy. The dealers job is to make the client happy. The inspectors job is to protect the client. There is a conflict of interest if the inspector is worried about their relationship with the dealer. any dealer who shows antagonism toward the inspector should be avoided like the plague. The buyer should be informed that the dealer is uncooperative so that they will not make a mistake dealing with them.
One would think that the RV manufacturers would do a full inspection top to bottom before delivery. It would save them thousands in repairs plus happy customers
Yes indeed! Or even the dealers do a full inspection before putting it on the sales lot. That way customers could leave with their RV the day they purchase it, instead of having to wait for repairs. Thanks for your comment!
Awesome information, Deb. We need more of you around. And you highlighted a common business practice: Eat the Cash Cow. Large(r) companies buy up small(er) ones in their industry when they are cranking along making a lot of money. Then to accelerate their profits, they "eat" (gut) the acquired company by firing senior people (higher salaries), sometimes replacing them with unskilled or lower-skilled workers (or none at all), and using cheap Chinese parts that do not have good quality control, so they are less expensive. In many industries, they just run the former cash-cow into the ground and sell off the remainder for scrap. This is what I hear people saying about Thor eating cows.
Thanks Randy. Sure seems like a race to the bottom, and very short sighted of the companies. It's a wonder they can stay in business. All it will take is one company doing it right and they'll be a line out the door! The rest will either fall in line or close their doors. Thanks for watching!
Yes Liz... the 2000s was the best era of motorhome reliability and craftsmanship... this was the era when motorhome manufacturers tried to "out-craft and put-built" each other... so reliability and craftsmanship were at all time high... Monaco, Holiday Rambler, Fleetwood, Winnebago, Meridian, Seals, American Coach, See-Yah, etc. churned out the best products... my favorite motorhome of this era is the Monaco Class A diesel coach with the Roadmaster chassis and the 600 horsepower Cumming engine....
I’ve got a 2000 Park Avenue 34’ fifth wheel by Thor and is built like a tank the under side is covered wth with metal and the slides underside was white aluminum and it has all the stuff inside the fridge furnace fridge are all still working fine and wth the metal underside keeps mice out. The new trailers have tar coated cardboard and raw ply wood on the slides so this Thor is a very well built .
I had a brand new avion 35 foot. I had a leak from the black water flush plumbing. I pulled the access cover off. Someone took the days floor sweepings, saw dust (a lot) empty beer cans, chip wrappers, etc, and dumped them in that black water tank compartment and then put the cover on. I took lots of pictures and sent them to a lot of places.
Here’s my thoughts I wound not take a RV if it was free because of the lousy construction knowing what I was going to face in replacement and repair costs Was once considering a purchase but those days are long gone
Thanks Liz and Debbie I really enjoyed your video. I feel the same with between new and used. Glad to hear some manufactures are starting to put out a better product. People only want a fair deal on the items they purchase.
You are spot on about the quality with large manufacturers. I worked in global logistics for 40 years and supported large equipment manufacturers. The decline in quality was always lead by procurement commoditizing parts and driving down costs, seemingly on benign little parts. I can use the example of a procurement person responsible for a hydraulic part who found a supplier in Turkey for about 9% cheaper than the supplier in China. So, we shifted sourcing to Turkey and within months, the assembly line saw problems with fit and finish. Within a couple more months, warranty claims were coming through for that part and additional parts affected up-stream of the newly sourced part. It simply was not engineered correctly or with a focus on quality. So additional parts associate with original part started to fail. The procurement department said they would go back to the original supplier, but the price went up and lead times increased. Management said no way on the change back, and the problem became part of the BRAND of the manufacturer - their name suffered for it! All for the sake of, what amounted to be, about $6 (landed cost) savings. In my Lance trailer, the water heater board, and the furnace board both failed. Both made by the same Chinese company, but different functions. So, I bought a board (refurbished) made by a young guy in CA for half the cost of the dealer's retail price (for the chinese crap), and the water heater continues to work to this day.
So crazy. It's a wonder they can stay in business. All it will take is one company doing it right and they'll be a line out the door! The rest will either fall in line or close their doors. Thanks for watching!
Thanks again Liz. You’re the best. I’m not sure what the rewards are for you to continue, but one reward for you I hope is how much you are genuinely appreciated. Why can’t the RV manufacturers just make great vehicles from the start? (Rhetorical).
We have had 4 RVs since 2000. In order, 2001 Fleetwood, 2005 Puma, 2011 Jayco, and the newest, a 2020 Keystone Cougar. The first 3 were flawless. We always wanted a Cougar cuz all the ones we looked at in the past were built so well. In 2020, we were finally able to get one. After getting it home and before even taking it out on first trip we were so disappointed. The floor was popping, trim was falling off walls and ceiling. On the first trip, we I've been issues with pulling water out of the tank and a leak under kitchen sink and a few other issues. This was the RV we have wanted for a long time. We spent over twice the money we spent on other units and have been so disappointed. We had planned on this being our last RV, but I don't think it's going to make it that long. In 2021, my sister an brother in law and a friend of theirs both bought new keystones and just as many or more issues than we did right from the start. Since the start of 2020, this country and its quality of products built have gone to 💩💩💩💩!
Deb's RV services 🏆 Deb has a utube channel folks. I would hire this lady in a heartbeat been following her since first time Liz mentioned her, months n months ago. 🍻
The problems start with companies wanting to make significant profits despite not producing a quality product. Speed of production and get it out the door is their only driving factor. Quality Craftsmanship and speed of production never meet !
I can't tell you how grateful I am for the information that you've provided. I would have wasted a lot of money on a modern diesel pusher but it makes sense that the quality isn't there anymore. I'll buy from a time when Americans actually cared for each other.
The whole "light-weight" selling feature is where the RV industry went off the rails. Flimsy frames have ruined the industry and resale values are in the basement now.
I'm full time in my year 2000 Tioga class C on a Chevy Express 3500, with no slides or fancy bells & whistles, just the basics. It's built like a tank, runs like a dream, and I gladly give it its regular service to keep it shipshape. It had a roof leak when I bought it, which I fixed with Eternabond, and liked that so well that I have since pre-emptively taped every seam, and have not had a leak since. I plan to hang on to MoJo in perpetuity.
First thing I reccomend is go thru all the plumbing fixtures you can access and check every single plumbing fitting. They are always loose from The factory. I just know from working on them for over 10 years
The attempted lawyer shut down of your channel content SEALED THE DEAL WITH ME.... I WILL NEVER BUY ANY RV WITH A LIMPIT FRAME OR ANY RV MANUFACTURED WITHIN THE WHINNYBUNGO GROUP.... period. I will not do business with snakes..imho😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
I know two Brinkley owners that recently purchased a 5th wheel each based on the Brinkley adds about quality and as of right now they are both at the dealers shop for repairs, one for the entry door replacement which was out of alignment after its first tow and the other for a complete replacement of the floor. These are beautiful rigs and the quality is there however anything can happen when you’re pulling any RV across the open road.
An important fact to mention when there is a water leak any where this is a potential to grow mold!!! No one needs to be exposed to mold and is HUGE issue in Rvs. We found that out the hard way because no one talks about. Mold is a huge issue in used and new rvs
We went to camping world as we were seriously looking. They did not have anything that checked the boxes. Made the mistake of giving them phone & email. They harassed me, until I threatened to sue. Left me alone for a while, then it started all over again
Seems like the new MADE IN THE USA means Less quality, higher price and the worst customer service. The fleecing of the customers by these corporations with CEO's making 10s if not 100s of millions a year is coming home to roost.
Great job you are doing, and you tell the truth. I could talk for hours about this, but the number one thing is roof leaks, they cause huge, huge problems in RVs. And did they use marine plywood for the flooring? Especially in the bathrooms, I have fallen through the bathroom floor on one motorhome I had. The one I have now some of the beautiful walls are rotting away from roof leaks which I have fixed numerous times. Another huge problem is the plumbing/water lines, huge problems after time and almost impossible to get to and repair. They use cheap plastic water lines. Mine is parked now and I live in it. It is a huge motorhome with dual rear axles. Real oak cabinets and flooring. Insulation is another big one.!
There all junk, you can’t inspect junk, because there junk, but they don’t want to change, my roof leak two time in the first three years, needed new tire because there junk and blew one at 3500 miles, my furnace broke in two weeks, my fridge in a year, soft floors in the kitchen in two years, replaced half my screws and replaced with bolts or lock tighten the screws in, slides needed adjustments two years, what you don’t know is you will need 3 to 10k in add ons, there junk
Exactly it’s junk when you buy it and still junk when you get it home . And the fooors are built useing cdx wood chips glued together ones it gets wet it’s all over .
Debbie was spot on !! Great having her on Liz ! I waited for 7 months to go pick up my Casita . I know it’s little and built different. Totally worth the wait . Roofs on RV’s are critical! I guess that’s why they install permanent ladders on them! 🤨 Thanks Liz ! 👍
Lazy Days? LAZY DAYS?? That’s a full stop joke right there. The Lazy Days dealership in Mesa AZ has had our brand new, 2023 $145k rig in for THEIR repair, since October of last year!!! It’s now almost May of 2024, and we are having to cancel our vacation because they can’t seem to get their act together to save their lives. DO NOT buy an RV from anyone and expect reasonable service. These people couldn’t possibly have demonstrated a greater level of ineptitude, if they were paid! Still waiting for our rig. 😡
@@jeffwhite3021 A few months ago, I would have said yes. But now, not so much. My husband is up to his elbows, as I text, trying to fix an electrical problem. After being in their possession for 7 months, we are still dealing with the aftermath. I regret ever letting them touch our rig. The list of reasons is extensive. I think the RV industry at this point is just a mess. All of it. Very sad.
It's not hard to design a RV that will not fall apart look at tractor trailers they last a very long time and go millions of miles with tones of weight inside. RV'S cannot go any were without problems something is very wrong and motor homes DO NOT HAVE TO MEAT ANY FEDERAL SAFTY STANDERD'S EXCEPT FOR SCHOOLBUS AND THAT IS IT. THIS WOULD MAKE A GOOD VIDEO. I enjoy you video's. @@LizAmazing
Our 1989 31' Airstream Excella(Thor) was $33k new, but it has been an exceptional camper. We have replaced items(fridge, A/C, inverter, torsion axles/brakes), but they were scheduled upgrades and never lost a day of camping. In 2017 our Zip-Awniing's mainspring broke and we had to manually roll up the awning, but Zip-Dee had one in stock for our year/model. Unfortunately, a rig like ours is now $160k+ and far more technical, but we aren't in the market for new and enjoying what we have. Travel safe!!
I bought a 2024 Salem by Forest River travel trailer 4 weeks ago... had to return it to the dealer 2 days later for the water heater (on demand) trying to start with the trailer still in winterized mode, i.e. no water or pressure and pump turned off..Have yet to hear from them at all...
Oh. no. So very sorry. Thank you for sharing this and I hope this will be resolved soon. If not, send me an email and I'll interview you for the channel. They won't want that publicity!
It's not capitalism. It comes down to greed and concerns for the produced product. If you understand capitalism, it is designed to add open market competition to balance greed. However, when big companies are allowed to buy out the competition, then monopolies form that control the market. Bottom line.. when you have selfish, greedy, narcissistic people involved in business, then any system will fail. So... pretty much every system will fail, lol.
It's not capitalism. While no system involving humans can ever be perfect, capitalism has created more wealth, health, and freedom by far than anything else. The fact that you can even buy such a first-world luxury as an RV says it all.
Liz, until now, you were my favorite fantasy RV lady. But! Debbie has a Lazy Daze! Likes Lazy Daze! My old '91 LD is glowing with pride tonight, here in a warm Tombstone sunset. This was a very good video. What was unsaid is that it would take an actual consumer revolt, on a nuclear strike on Elkhart, to get this industry back to quality. Neither will happen. Best bet? Shop for a 2005 to 2015 Lazy Daze. Do you really need slideouts?
Thanks for this! Enjoy that LD! And I'm watching the sunset from Tucson, it's a good one. And these companies will go out of business if they don't start treating their customers right. Thanks for watching.
I recently had a Schwintek motor die. Once I was able to remove it I found that it was very wet and rusted. The water infiltration into the slide destroyed the motor. I am amazed at the lack of quality from hitch to bumper.
At one time I was hauling RY loads out of the Indiana sources. The construction flaws I noticed as I tied down the units that I carried were noticeable 20 years ago. You points are well taken.....
Great video! It would make a valuable video for her & you to go through the brands and years she sees as good ones for A class, C class, campers, etc! That would much appreciated by folks.
RV life called on me. I never thought in a million years. Id still be in my 2021 premier rb26 by keystone I need my floor replaced already. And im gearing up to do this. Its the widest slide. But ive learned a whole bunch since i bought this barely used a month. At camping world.
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What she said about dealers and salespeople was too kind. No seriously, let's be honest, most dealers, and especially salespeople only pretend to care about the customer's needs, and are ALMOST ALWAYS more concerned with making the sale and the commission.
All expensive crap😅😅😅
You are doing the Lord's work exposing the truth. Thank you.
Where and how can I find a good RV inspector?
@@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars unfortunately, she’s only giving you less than half the story
If there were lemon laws for RVs, these problems would go away.
Seven states have full lemon laws for RVs, but many more have coverage excluding living quarters and/or under a weight limit. Google will bring up the list.
@@flagmichael yes but they only cover drive train issues and not common RV issues
You can be sure the industry makes substantial campaign contributions to legislators to keep a national RV lemon law from happening.
Yes until Blackrock buys out the inspectors.
Sure they would. They would just cost thousands more. People are demanding cheaper products and then complaining when they get them…
Also, what dealerships should understand is, this woman is actually helping them to avoid future customer headaches and negative reviews. Getting rid of the known problems before that thing leaves the lot keeps everyone happy. Rv inspectors help both the consumer and dealer.
Exactly this! Thank you for saying so! And for watching.
Dealerships don't care, that is the industry of RVs. Ask Marcus Lemonis how much he cares.
Well put. I thought it’s a win-win for everyone (including the manufacturer).
I was a home inspector for several years and the realtors treated me like the dealers treat you. They hated it that I checked all of the little things that many inspectors didn't check and after a few years of getting no realtor referrals, I decided to quit the business. Beware of realtor-recommended home inspectors for the same reason you would not trust a dealer-recommended RV inspector.
True!! I’ve had clients contact me saying they chose me because I was not referred by the dealer.
@@debsrvservicesYou must be, well should I say, Let's start over 😅
That's the American way today, with almost everything. It's very disappointing and frustrating
I was a Realtor and I totally understand. Thanks for your comment!
@@LizAmazing Hi Liz,I see Deb got my friendly hint.
This is one of your best installments in this series so far.
Yay, thanks so much for saying so!
Great info : ) I could've bought anything new, but opted for a 1994, 36 foot Holiday Rambler. All aluminum except the front and rear fiberglass. It was when Harley Davidson owned the company. Some things were actually over-built in the suspension (8 wheel) and no water leaks. Solid oak wood cabinets and huge Onan generator. Ford F-53 frame, Ford 460 engine with high performance add on items from the factory, 5 speed auto transmission etc. Rides like a luxury bus. No computers to shut things off :) Love it. Got it for $7,000 cash. Put about $1,000 in parts, and I do my own work so labor is free for me.
That's the way! Hang onto that Rambler! And thanks for your comment and for watching.
7K? That was a steal.
@@fitfogey That is the average price for a 1994 Holiday Rambler of that age. But you will need to get your tool box out for neglected maintenance.
Wow! What a great deal!
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I purchased a used Newmar Baystar from an old guy who had owned it from new. When I purchased it, it was 10 years old but it only had 6000 miles on it because he and his wife would use it for a week each year. It had always been covered up, he showed me all the paperwork for the upgrades and the maintenance and in 6000 miles he had changed the oil about 10 times 😂 Taking care of it and his other plastic cars was basically his hobby. I couldn't believe the extra thing they did AFTER I'd paid for it. I wired the money and went to collect it on a Friday and I'd told him that I was going to take my family out in that weekend. He and his wife cleaned it from top to bottom, filled the fresh water tank, filled the gas tank, filled the fridge with sodas, beer, hot dogs, etc. Decorated it with balloons and July 4th banners pillows and blankets. They even bought new sheets for the master bed and switched them out and laundered the old ones and stowed them. When I said I can't believe it they both just said "Now you can take your family out tomorrow with no work." I stayed in touch with them and the first summer sent them photos of the 10,000 mile road trip we were on.
I’ve owned it for three years now and put 35,000 miles on it with very few problems other than the normal generator issues (one which was TOTALLY my fault) and other small annoying things that happen because you’re driving a house thousands and thousands of miles.
Wow, what a great story. I will always remember it, thanks for sharing.
Deb is incredibly well spoken and really explains things so well. Great show Liz! Your show is a vital service.
Word for word Liz, what they said!! You are a fantastic Lady! 👍❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾
Thank you!!!
Totally agree. Deb is not only very knowledgeable, but also an excellent communicator. 👍🏆👏
@@MilescoI appreciate that comment! 😊
I wish I could travel around with Deb and Liz in a RV.
I wish we would've hired an inspector. Our last purchase ever, not because of quality but being stuck with a piece of junk will forever turn us against RV industry forever. We bought a new Forrest River Puma in 2020. Within one year it had to be sent back to the manufacturer for a complete teardown and rebuild. But, the manufacturer said it was the dealers responsibility, and the dealer claimed it was the manufacturer's responsibility. We finally had to threaten to sue. You name it. Water heater dumping carbon monoxide into the cabin. Toilet leaking at base. Several water lines leaking. Shower pan split down the middle. Wallpaper peeling off. Trim falling off inside and out. Screws just simply backing out of their holes inside and out. Bolts popped off the tongue jack. Frame has had several recalls over complete failures at welded joints, sometunes near axles. Outdoor speakers failed. DVD player stopped working. Air conditioner stopped working. Three weeks later we got it back. Everything replaced or fixed. BUT. A year later, the slide out won't run out completely. There's a bulge developing in the metal siding on the outside top middle above the slide-out. The plumbing is leaking again. The outside trim they replaced is gone while towing, screws are backing out again. No one wants to fix it, again. So I take it to places that have RV shows and give free tours, showing the horrible manufacturer fails, I show them pictures of the previous failures, before the "rebuild". If I can stop just one family who is going to spend $30,000 or more on these doorstops with wheels, I'll feel vindicated. NEVER BUY A FOREST RIVER PRODUCT, YOU'LL REGRET IT IMMEDIATELY!
I love that you take it to the shows to stop others from falling victim too. good work! 👏
Had 2 forest rivers, both junk.
I have a 2018 puma. Been a great camper with minor issues. Any camper built during covid years, run away.
that's why its not a good idea to drag your house around the country
@@sl123sl or your "donut" (like a dog with worms)
This is probably the most important video yet on your channel. A must watch
Awww, thank you so much!
Do the research, hire an inspector and watch each and every episode in the Liz Amazing series … I have rewatched several in this series as I have viewed rigs and I really appreciate the expertise shared. Thanks, Liz.
I sold RVs at one point in my life. When people asked me who makes the best RV, I told them they are all equally poorly built and that is the reality. The industry warranty system is like the VA deny until the warranty is over or the vet is dead. If you think you bought "quality" from any company, you need help, they all sell garbage , some are just look better.
Even Oliver?
There is a huge market for used trailers that are 6 years old or older all because of the workers that made those older trailers cared about the job and the quality with self respect and honor of the work they did.
Went from a 2020 Grand Design to a 2001 Alpenlite 5th wheel. Night and day difference in quality. They really don't make em like they used to.
I keep my camping simple: tent, cooler, chairs, and of course, beer.
Me too...
In 1883..
Now this old back needs a bed😮
Air mattress that’s good
Mmmmmm.... Beer.
This may be the direction I’m going. Minus the beer. 😆
Yea!
She explained the issues very well when Dutchman purchased Komfort in 2009 my neighbour bought a 2010 Dutchman/Komfort and he walked thru my 2006 Komfort and said how the difference in quality was downhill in comparison thanks Liz 😊
Yep. It's really a big difference. Thanks Corey!
Nice to hear from an actual inspector. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you!!
Thank you for watching!
Happy camper always a plus
This completely cured me from ever wanting to own an RV! Thank you!
I have purchased an older caravan, 8 years old, fully built in Australia. On the money I have saved buying it new, I have been able to change any defects and have a full service from a caravan repairer. Very happy. Having it on a hoist, inspecting it thoroughly is worth every cent.
Yes ma'am! The wife kept wanting to get a newish (08) and up and I was DEAD set on something pre 2006. Ended up finding a 2005 Cardninal and it is SO well built compared to some of my families 2020 5th wheel. I am the 3rd owner and the previous 2 were older couples that never used it..
This thing has real wood cabinents, solid frames, heavy duty furniture and pex plumming. Super awesome.
I purchased a used 2011 KZ travel trailer in 2019, all original components till this day and tons of miles. Only issues were new tires and awning material this year. Rv has been awesome.
Yes! Thanks for this. That was a good year for travel trailers!
Everything they say is absolutely true. I've been in the RV industry for over 20 years and worked on the production floors of Trail Lite Forest River and Keystone. The quality has gotten so bad over the past 20 years. They try to use the cheapest products they can find
This was a very informative video, thanks Liz and Debbie! We recently purchased a 2005 Four Winds RV (Ford motor) from a family member. It has been very well taken care of. Solid wood Cabinet doors! We are doing some updating and pulled up the carpeting and linoleum flooring. I was expecting to see water damage, and the floors were dry, no signs of water damage at all! We expect to spend about 1,000 in renovations, (doing the work ourselves) and it will look brand new! And the best part, it is completely paid for!
That sounds awesome!!
Yay! Thanks for sharing this. Enjoy that classic Four Winds! Happy travels.
Time to start naming names here Liz! These inspectors know which years and brands are lemons.
I name names here! Trailers and fifth wheels built in 2018 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching. For more about what to buy used see my recent video where I name names: ua-cam.com/video/JSo5n2B62MA/v-deo.html
My neighbor was a day laborer one day and a week later he was a full train RV Technician! I had to pay $160/hr at RV Dealership for him to make $20/hr. You have to be able to identify the problem and fix it or call Ready Labor, or a skilled labor or some kid and tell them how to fix it for $10-$60/hr. That’s my reality.
I owned a 2003 Monaco and a 2004 Newmar and both were built like a Sherman Tank! I had very few issues and really it was just general maintenance. All these new electronic systems where if they fail other things fail is just a problem IMO. The frames on my RVs were excellent along with the slides. Leaks weren't an issue in thunderstorms. You can buy a pristine one for 60-70k now and I'd look for an owner who stores his RV undercover. I would never buy new or from a dealer!
That's the way! Thanks for sharing this, and for watching.
I’ll take a toggle switch over Bluetooth connection to operate systems any day. I now sound like my grandpa’.
I see both are from companies other than Thor. My wife was researching RVs to buy one but found all the ones in our price range were made by Thor. She (wisely) decided to give up the hunt.
I research for over a year before we purchased our coach. Six months prior to our purchase, we secured a garage for the coach to keep it protected from the Florida sun. Yes, we had the garage before we had the coach!!!
We did have an inspection. It took the man 8 full hours and he only discovered a few very minor issues which the dealership corrected. We had (and I do recommend) all the fluids sent to an outside laboratory for analysis.
If I had known how horrible Camping World was I would have never purchased my pull behind trailer from them. Horrible customer service and they did a half a$$ inspection on the one we bought and lied to to us about our warranty. Lesson learned I just wish I had known about this page. Great information thank you
Camping World is the worst dealers in the game
Thank you for being here!
General RV is pitiful also. Would never step foot in one of their dealerships.
It is the manufacturers to blame for the warranty process, Camping World is just the biggest in the game.....if they wanted to they could change the industry. they saved Thor once.
Get an old Silver Streak. Anything new is crap.
Excellent info. I have learned in my 3 rv’s I have owned throughout the years. I bought my 2020 wolfpup in 2022 from a pp and they had already got the bugs out as you said. It already had a replacement refrigerator & water pump from the dealer. They also had an extended warranty that was transferred to me.
I never buy New autos,RV’s or outdoor toys. The best deals are used.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing this!
Great guest and really makes the case for an inspection. Of course you have been saying this forever. If I was a dealer I would pay her to come in and do an inspection. Then I would get ALL employees together and go over the results. This would be on a rig that they "had ready for sale and delivery". Or I would have her do five and share the results on what was found and the repairs on how they fixed it with a potential customer. They might find this is a great selling point. Thanks for the video and enjoy your week.
That would be awesome if a dealer did this!!! Thanks for your comment, Dan, and wishing you a wonderful week as well!
She said it well and is obviously well trained in her field of RV inspection!! That’s what we need !
Indeed we do! Thanks for your kind words, Norman!
Good video again Liz, finding someone who knows the inns and outs of the RV industry, bringing this to the forefront of the customers, yes I can say this was exactly what we needed to hear, Liz your Amazing! Stay safe out there!
Thanks so much for your support, Bill, hugs to you!
My dad has a 76 holiday, damn thing was built to be lived in back then and still is
There are so so SO many reasons I've decided to buy something used. Something from at least 2016 or before. I can always fix it up and add new things. At least I know it will last. Yeah, I'll have to do some major tech upgrades, but at least it won't fall apart on me for awhile. We are living in ours, and quality SERIOUSLY matters. We'll be getting something newer soon, and I'm crossing my fingers for finding something decent. Thanks so much for all you do, Liz. And for all the great information you share. Sometimes our lives and adventures depend on people like you, who take the time to inform and care.
That's the way to do it! Looking forward to seeing you on the road.
Deb, don’t worry about making the dealers happy. The dealers job is to make the client happy. The inspectors job is to protect the client. There is a conflict of interest if the inspector is worried about their relationship with the dealer. any dealer who shows antagonism toward the inspector should be avoided like the plague. The buyer should be informed that the dealer is uncooperative so that they will not make a mistake dealing with them.
Yep, my goal is to help my client. I always let my client know if they are giving me a hard time.
Exactly. Thanks for watching, Norm.
One would think that the RV manufacturers would do a full inspection top to bottom before delivery. It would save them thousands in repairs plus happy customers
Yes indeed! Or even the dealers do a full inspection before putting it on the sales lot. That way customers could leave with their RV the day they purchase it, instead of having to wait for repairs. Thanks for your comment!
What repairs? I haven’t heard of any dealer or manufacturer that has a good reputation/record of handling warranty issues. Not one.
This is exactly why I bought a one owner 1990 Fleetwood, its in far better shape than my friends 2022 Jayco.
Wow! She is really a pro at what she does
She is! Thank you for watching, Steve.
This woman knows her stuff. Great video!
Awesome information, Deb. We need more of you around. And you highlighted a common business practice: Eat the Cash Cow. Large(r) companies buy up small(er) ones in their industry when they are cranking along making a lot of money. Then to accelerate their profits, they "eat" (gut) the acquired company by firing senior people (higher salaries), sometimes replacing them with unskilled or lower-skilled workers (or none at all), and using cheap Chinese parts that do not have good quality control, so they are less expensive. In many industries, they just run the former cash-cow into the ground and sell off the remainder for scrap. This is what I hear people saying about Thor eating cows.
Thank you!
Thanks Randy. Sure seems like a race to the bottom, and very short sighted of the companies. It's a wonder they can stay in business. All it will take is one company doing it right and they'll be a line out the door! The rest will either fall in line or close their doors. Thanks for watching!
Yes Liz... the 2000s was the best era of motorhome reliability and craftsmanship... this was the era when motorhome manufacturers tried to "out-craft and put-built" each other... so reliability and craftsmanship were at all time high... Monaco, Holiday Rambler, Fleetwood, Winnebago, Meridian, Seals, American Coach, See-Yah, etc. churned out the best products... my favorite motorhome of this era is the Monaco Class A diesel coach with the Roadmaster chassis and the 600 horsepower Cumming engine....
Lazydays motorcoach was built to such a standard that they wouldn't install a slideroom in the coach in fear of ruining their reputation.
I know. They never compromised. Thanks for watching.
😅😊 4:24 4:25 4:28 4:32
5:39 5:40 5:43 😢😅
6:15 6:16 😢😮
I’ve got a 2000 Park Avenue 34’ fifth wheel by Thor and is built like a tank the under side is covered wth with metal and the slides underside was white aluminum and it has all the stuff inside the fridge furnace fridge are all still working fine and wth the metal underside keeps mice out. The new trailers have tar coated cardboard and raw ply wood on the slides so this Thor is a very well built .
R V stands for " RUINED VACATION"
And rickety vehicle 😂
I had a brand new avion 35 foot. I had a leak from the black water flush plumbing. I pulled the access cover off. Someone took the days floor sweepings, saw dust (a lot) empty beer cans, chip wrappers, etc, and dumped them in that black water tank compartment and then put the cover on. I took lots of pictures and sent them to a lot of places.
Here’s my thoughts
I wound not take a RV if it was free because of the lousy construction knowing what I was going to face in replacement and repair costs
Was once considering a purchase but those days are long gone
Thanks Liz for featuring Deb as watch her inspection videos often - she is so good at what she does plus she's from my state of Michigan.
PURE GOLD 🎉....thank you.❤
Thanks Liz and Debbie I really enjoyed your video. I feel the same with between new and used. Glad to hear some manufactures are starting to put out a better product. People only want a fair deal on the items they purchase.
Thanks for your support, Jeff!!!
Thanks Jeff and I agree.
As a mechanic, tightening a bolt is a sacred act , you have to care
Indeed! Thanks for watching.
This woman knows her job. I'd hire her to inspect an RV in a heartbeat. It would be money well spent.
She's the real deal! Thanks for watching!
My girlfriend bought a 1995 Skyline Boomer and while it needs a few minor repairs, so glad we got it for 3k CAD and not some pricy piece of junk.
You are spot on about the quality with large manufacturers. I worked in global logistics for 40 years and supported large equipment manufacturers. The decline in quality was always lead by procurement commoditizing parts and driving down costs, seemingly on benign little parts. I can use the example of a procurement person responsible for a hydraulic part who found a supplier in Turkey for about 9% cheaper than the supplier in China. So, we shifted sourcing to Turkey and within months, the assembly line saw problems with fit and finish. Within a couple more months, warranty claims were coming through for that part and additional parts affected up-stream of the newly sourced part. It simply was not engineered correctly or with a focus on quality. So additional parts associate with original part started to fail. The procurement department said they would go back to the original supplier, but the price went up and lead times increased. Management said no way on the change back, and the problem became part of the BRAND of the manufacturer - their name suffered for it! All for the sake of, what amounted to be, about $6 (landed cost) savings. In my Lance trailer, the water heater board, and the furnace board both failed. Both made by the same Chinese company, but different functions. So, I bought a board (refurbished) made by a young guy in CA for half the cost of the dealer's retail price (for the chinese crap), and the water heater continues to work to this day.
Exactly!!
So crazy. It's a wonder they can stay in business. All it will take is one company doing it right and they'll be a line out the door! The rest will either fall in line or close their doors. Thanks for watching!
Thanks again Liz. You’re the best. I’m not sure what the rewards are for you to continue, but one reward for you I hope is how much you are genuinely appreciated. Why can’t the RV manufacturers just make great vehicles from the start? (Rhetorical).
Liz ,your rv inspector said it best "the quality doesn't match the purchase price ".
Exactly. You're paying more to get less.
We have had 4 RVs since 2000. In order, 2001 Fleetwood, 2005 Puma, 2011 Jayco, and the newest, a 2020 Keystone Cougar. The first 3 were flawless. We always wanted a Cougar cuz all the ones we looked at in the past were built so well. In 2020, we were finally able to get one. After getting it home and before even taking it out on first trip we were so disappointed. The floor was popping, trim was falling off walls and ceiling. On the first trip, we I've been issues with pulling water out of the tank and a leak under kitchen sink and a few other issues. This was the RV we have wanted for a long time. We spent over twice the money we spent on other units and have been so disappointed. We had planned on this being our last RV, but I don't think it's going to make it that long. In 2021, my sister an brother in law and a friend of theirs both bought new keystones and just as many or more issues than we did right from the start. Since the start of 2020, this country and its quality of products built have gone to 💩💩💩💩!
Deb's RV services 🏆
Deb has a utube channel folks. I would hire this lady in a heartbeat been following her since first time Liz mentioned her, months n months ago. 🍻
Yes, it's been about a year since I first did a video with her. She's the real deal! Thanks for your comment, Spykers!
🙏🙏🙏 appreciate you sharing your expertise with us RV owners. Liz you are amazing.
Thank you Inspectors your honesty and knowledge is appreciated
The problems start with companies wanting to make significant profits despite not producing a quality product. Speed of production and get it out the door is their only driving factor. Quality Craftsmanship and speed of production never meet !
I can't tell you how grateful I am for the information that you've provided. I would have wasted a lot of money on a modern diesel pusher but it makes sense that the quality isn't there anymore. I'll buy from a time when Americans actually cared for each other.
There you go. I hope those good times come around again. Thank you for watching and happy RV shopping.
The whole "light-weight" selling feature is where the RV industry went off the rails. Flimsy frames have ruined the industry and resale values are in the basement now.
I don’t own a RV, but applaud your videos.
you said it. CEO WANTS HIS 100 million paycheck
I'm full time in my year 2000 Tioga class C on a Chevy Express 3500, with no slides or fancy bells & whistles, just the basics. It's built like a tank, runs like a dream, and I gladly give it its regular service to keep it shipshape. It had a roof leak when I bought it, which I fixed with Eternabond, and liked that so well that I have since pre-emptively taped every seam, and have not had a leak since. I plan to hang on to MoJo in perpetuity.
I have a 2000 jamboree Ford engine and it runs like a tank. I couldn’t be happier.
Yay! Happy to hear this and thanks for being here Cher!
First thing I reccomend is go thru all the plumbing fixtures you can access and check every single plumbing fitting. They are always loose from
The factory. I just know from working on them for over 10 years
Good tip, thank you!
The attempted lawyer shut down of your channel content SEALED THE DEAL WITH ME.... I WILL NEVER BUY ANY RV WITH A LIMPIT FRAME OR ANY RV MANUFACTURED WITHIN THE WHINNYBUNGO GROUP.... period. I will not do business with snakes..imho😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
Hello;
So which fall under that group?
I don’t have a clue on all this so any help is appreciated.
Sadly the whole rv industry is trash.
No vendor in the industry called limpit so you should know what you are talking about before you comment
@@JimJim-y3kHe meant Lippert.
Liz, I think th RV industry should be held accountable for all the peeling furniture they pushed out for the last few years. Thanks for what you do!
I know two Brinkley owners that recently purchased a 5th wheel each based on the Brinkley adds about quality and as of right now they are both at the dealers shop for repairs, one for the entry door replacement which was out of alignment after its first tow and the other for a complete replacement of the floor. These are beautiful rigs and the quality is there however anything can happen when you’re pulling any RV across the open road.
Thank you for sharing this.
I also heard about issues with Brinkley. Much more money and some of the same issues! Just no pride in the work! It’s a shame!!! 😞
An important fact to mention when there is a water leak any where this is a potential to grow mold!!! No one needs to be exposed to mold and is HUGE issue in Rvs. We found that out the hard way because no one talks about. Mold is a huge issue in used and new rvs
Do not go to Camping World for anything I wouldn’t even buy a roll of toilet paper from them they really screwed me over
I totally agree that this is true. 7:41
We went to camping world as we were seriously looking. They did not have anything that checked the boxes. Made the mistake of giving them phone & email. They harassed me, until I threatened to sue. Left me alone for a while, then it started all over again
I have owned 3 new NEW Travel trailers over the past 13 years. All are made without any Quality control.
Seems like the new MADE IN THE USA means Less quality, higher price and the worst customer service. The fleecing of the customers by these corporations with CEO's making 10s if not 100s of millions a year is coming home to roost.
Great job you are doing, and you tell the truth. I could talk for hours about this, but the number one thing is roof leaks, they cause huge, huge problems in RVs. And did they use marine plywood for the flooring? Especially in the bathrooms, I have fallen through the bathroom floor on one motorhome I had. The one I have now some of the beautiful walls are rotting away from roof leaks which I have fixed numerous times. Another huge problem is the plumbing/water lines, huge problems after time and almost impossible to get to and repair. They use cheap plastic water lines. Mine is parked now and I live in it. It is a huge motorhome with dual rear axles. Real oak cabinets and flooring. Insulation is another big one.!
There all junk, you can’t inspect junk, because there junk, but they don’t want to change, my roof leak two time in the first three years, needed new tire because there junk and blew one at 3500 miles, my furnace broke in two weeks, my fridge in a year, soft floors in the kitchen in two years, replaced half my screws and replaced with bolts or lock tighten the screws in, slides needed adjustments two years, what you don’t know is you will need 3 to 10k in add ons, there junk
They're junk
Exactly it’s junk when you buy it and still junk when you get it home . And the fooors are built useing cdx wood chips glued together ones it gets wet it’s all over .
@@SHENDOH: I see what you did “there” ;)
GREAT video, Liz. Really enjoyed the inspector lady and the info she offered. Keep up the good work (both of you)!
Debbie was spot on !! Great having her on Liz !
I waited for 7 months to go pick up my Casita . I know it’s little and built different. Totally worth the wait . Roofs on RV’s are critical! I guess that’s why they install permanent ladders on them! 🤨 Thanks Liz ! 👍
I had a couple friends with Casitas, they are really good!!! Congrats on yours and thanks for watching, Ralph.
@@LizAmazing You’re welcome Liz !😁
Lazy Days? LAZY DAYS?? That’s a full stop joke right there. The Lazy Days dealership in Mesa AZ has had our brand new, 2023 $145k rig in for THEIR repair, since October of last year!!! It’s now almost May of 2024, and we are having to cancel our vacation because they can’t seem to get their act together to save their lives. DO NOT buy an RV from anyone and expect reasonable service. These people couldn’t possibly have demonstrated a greater level of ineptitude, if they were paid! Still waiting for our rig. 😡
You're talking about a dealer, not the Brand "LazyDaze"
@@jeffwhite3021 A few months ago, I would have said yes. But now, not so much. My husband is up to his elbows, as I text, trying to fix an electrical problem. After being in their possession for 7 months, we are still dealing with the aftermath. I regret ever letting them touch our rig. The list of reasons is extensive. I think the RV industry at this point is just a mess. All of it. Very sad.
As a builder, you are a gun...great integrity and work.we need more you!
It is all about profit make more $$$$
You know it, Philip! Thanks for watching
It's not hard to design a RV that will not fall apart look at tractor trailers they last a very long time and go millions of miles with tones of weight inside. RV'S cannot go any were without problems something is very wrong and motor homes DO NOT HAVE TO MEAT ANY FEDERAL SAFTY STANDERD'S EXCEPT FOR SCHOOLBUS AND THAT IS IT. THIS WOULD MAKE A GOOD VIDEO. I enjoy you video's. @@LizAmazing
Our 1989 31' Airstream Excella(Thor) was $33k new, but it has been an exceptional camper. We have replaced items(fridge, A/C, inverter, torsion axles/brakes), but they were scheduled upgrades and never lost a day of camping. In 2017 our Zip-Awniing's mainspring broke and we had to manually roll up the awning, but Zip-Dee had one in stock for our year/model. Unfortunately, a rig like ours is now $160k+ and far more technical, but we aren't in the market for new and enjoying what we have. Travel safe!!
Hang onto that oldie but goodie. And thanks for sharing your experience!
LET'S HOPE SHE DOESN'T END UP LIKE THAT LEAKER OF BOEING DID!!!
I bought a 2024 Salem by Forest River travel trailer 4 weeks ago... had to return it to the dealer 2 days later for the water heater (on demand) trying to start with the trailer still in winterized mode, i.e. no water or pressure and pump turned off..Have yet to hear from them at all...
Oh. no. So very sorry. Thank you for sharing this and I hope this will be resolved soon. If not, send me an email and I'll interview you for the channel. They won't want that publicity!
The RV industry has definitely turned into a cheesy scrap market full of used car salesman. lots and lots of junk out there.
This was great. Deb rocks. Thanks for having her on Liz
Corporate greed is ruining everything. Capitalism is starting to eat itself alive.
It’s not Capitalism really.
It’s specifically the rv industry. They’ve always been crooks.
If you don’t like capitalism move somewhere else that doesn’t have it.
It's not capitalism. It comes down to greed and concerns for the produced product. If you understand capitalism, it is designed to add open market competition to balance greed. However, when big companies are allowed to buy out the competition, then monopolies form that control the market. Bottom line.. when you have selfish, greedy, narcissistic people involved in business, then any system will fail. So... pretty much every system will fail, lol.
It's not capitalism.
While no system involving humans can ever be perfect, capitalism has created more wealth, health, and freedom by far than anything else.
The fact that you can even buy such a first-world luxury as an RV says it all.
Liz, until now, you were my favorite fantasy RV lady. But! Debbie has a Lazy Daze! Likes Lazy Daze! My old '91 LD is glowing with pride tonight, here in a warm Tombstone sunset.
This was a very good video. What was unsaid is that it would take an actual consumer revolt, on a nuclear strike on Elkhart, to get this industry back to quality. Neither will happen. Best bet? Shop for a 2005 to 2015 Lazy Daze. Do you really need slideouts?
Thanks for this! Enjoy that LD! And I'm watching the sunset from Tucson, it's a good one. And these companies will go out of business if they don't start treating their customers right. Thanks for watching.
Yes! Another Lazy Daze owner!! I love it!
You have the best RV channel out there. You’re really helping people.
Thank you, Billy, it's a good feeling. Glad you are here!
I recently had a Schwintek motor die. Once I was able to remove it I found that it was very wet and rusted. The water infiltration into the slide destroyed the motor. I am amazed at the lack of quality from hitch to bumper.
First time seeing this. Remarkable lady offering so much value.
So glad I found my 2019 used mint condition Grand Design Imagine bumper pull. Had to have it for work, very happy with it so far.
Wow. This lady knows her stuff. Really good information
At one time I was hauling RY loads out of the Indiana sources.
The construction flaws I noticed as I tied down the units that I carried were noticeable 20 years ago.
You points are well taken.....
Thank you for this, and for watching!
I hand built my own from wood. Was a great experience and I wish I would have done it sooner.
That's the way for sure! Thanks for watching.
Very Good Video Liz, Thankyou For Keeping Us Informed.
Wow! I like what this lady has to say and I agree! Thought it was just me noticing this problem.
Great video! It would make a valuable video for her & you to go through the brands and years she sees as good ones for A class, C class, campers, etc! That would much appreciated by folks.
thanks for this, and for watching.
RV life called on me. I never thought in a million years.
Id still be in my 2021 premier rb26 by keystone
I need my floor replaced already.
And im gearing up to do this.
Its the widest slide.
But ive learned a whole bunch since i bought this barely used a month.
At camping world.
She's right about buying a Lazy Daze!
WHEN WE WERE ON THE ROAD IN AN OLDER CLASS A , WE SAW TRAILERS FLIPPED IN WIN# 1ST 5TH WHEELS NEXT BUT CLASS A OR C FLIPPED LESS OFTEN !!