Konflikt 47: A Better Sci-Fi Wargame
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Had it with Games Workshop? A historical gamer looking to try out something a bit more fantastic? Or a sci-fi/fantasy gamer looking to nudge into historicals? Have I got a game for you! If you're looking for a quality, affordable wargame with a fascinating premise, a great ruleset, and excellent miniature support, Konflikt 47 is your game.
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Glad Konflikt 47 getting more attention now. What went on with GW really helped many people open their eyes to how many good tabletop/mini companies are out there. Hope it was the majority :(
Glad you like it. Thank you for the support.
My closet is full of now defunct games that were all hailed as the next big thing that was going to dethrone GW/40k over the past thirty years.
As much as I’d like to see it happen you’ll have to excuse my skepticism. Instead of trying replace 40k, just focus on making a good game and being your own animal and if it’s meant to be it will be.
No kidding I'm now hopeful that get an actually Battletech playgroup in the coming months.
@@CatholicDragoon what I like about battletech is that you need little money to start. I got the beginner box for 20 pounds (hasnt arrived yet) but only with tbat I can get my friends into it. If we like it, Ill get the AGOAC box and will play even more lol
@softlightsymphonyband6848 This never claimed to replace it
It’s an add on to a ww2 ruleset
Games Workshop: "If you don't like the direction we're going then leave; you won't be missed."
Me: "Well shit... looks like I'll have to spend my money elsewhere."
Warlord: "Please allow me to introduce myself..."
Per the Rolling Stones, "Please allow me to introduce myself" is more something GW would say.
That aside, I agree that it's important to
Stop. Giving. Money. To. People. Who. Hate. You.
Warlord made the entirety of a regiment for me
@@skirk248 And for literally half the price of an equivalent 40K regiment
The problem is warlords prices are starting to get over the top as well, they had a price increase in july, and now in the switch from GBP to USD for most of the world most of their items are even more expensive
@@GuyMaleMan I noticed. That is coincident with record price inflation in the US and global supply crunches, so I don't attribute that to greed though.
I ordered the band of brothers starter box and the houses were missing in the box. I sent warlord games a mail and they sent me the houses free of charge. Really good customer support!
I was missing one arm from a set of ten guys and they sent me the arm, plus extras, within a week.
Same here for Beyond the gates of Antares.
@@attentionspanlabs this game Konflict looks like a semi-sequel to the Scythe/Iron Harvest franchise
@@akumaking1 I've seen the paintings, but other than that, I don't know any of the Iron Harvest backstory.
@@akumaking1 yes, I was thinking that since I first saw them!
The best advertising any tabletop company can have right now is that they're not GW. Thank you, GW, you're probably helping pay for someone else's career.
This would be a great ruleset to built a pre-war Fallout wargame from.
Agreed.
Konflict, Star Wars Legion, Battletech, or just good old 3d printing, there's always an alternative.
I’ve got Bolt Action and Konflikt 47. Been playing for years. I love warhammer, but GW is it own worst enemy. Got Japanese, Italians and Germans, my sons have US, English and Russian.
Cheers! I hope you'll stop by for future K47 videos, as I have several in the pipe. Next up is one on military walker doctrine and theory.
@@attentionspanlabs I certainly will. I’m hoping they expand on this version of Bolt Action. I love the Nachtjeagers and the lesser cousins with no wings. I also love the Japanese troops in the phase armor that can walk through walls.
Warlord should really publish a second edition of Konflikt 47, integrating the new rules and errata. I'd happily pay for a new book if they did so. They don't even need to add the new nations. But I do believe the rules should be compatible with Bolt Action 2nd Edition. The current K47 rules are basically ported from first edition BA.
The two expansion books apparently did that.
Jumping ship from GW, and loving learning about different war games. Honestly im a lore guy more than a tabletop player, but i had been saving money to get a 40k army to learn and tabletop with until gw really went off the rails. Now im looking to get into different games. And for the price, its looking like i can get into several different games, build several different armies for them, for the same price i was going to pay for a 40k army. Plus, i can have a bunch of diverse models sitting around just looking cool when im not playing. And i gotta say, K47 sounds awesome, and sounds like something im going to want to invest in. Thank you for doing this video, and showing me a new universe to love.
You are welcome! I am glad to be of help.
I visited the shop in Nottingham last week, lovely shop with friendly staff, plus alternative paints.
I hope you picked up some Konflikt47 stuff and will share on FB and Insta 😜 enjoy.
Konflikt 47 is amazing game, I've been playing it for around 3 years now
What army do you play?
More to the point which army don't I play 😂
@@andrewatherton4808 Good answer!
Great to shine a spotlight on Konflict47. Bolt Action is a great game but not to everyone's taste gaming a historical conflict, the K47 weird war stuff seems an easier thing to transition to. I've got a large BA collection and keep meaning to paint up some K47 and Aching Cthulhu models to add some Weird war elements so hopefully my armies can have a dual purpose!
jumping ship from GW and was looking at the warlord stuff. i have picked the Judge Dredd stuff for now as i love 2000ad comics but i think i may be having to do a british and german force for bolt action and this game as the bolt action stuff will slot perfectly into a konflikt 47. so 1 army being 2 armies is a fantastic thing that may have sold me on the game. great video thank you.
Hey Mike! Great vid. Glad I looked it up. Great setting, love the minis. Thanks for covering K47.
Thank you for watching!
THIS AMAZING! I hope they add new factions. And unlike 40K, I want all factions.
Glad I could introduce you to this great game! Thanks for watching.
@@attentionspanlabs Thank You! I can't wait to have German Warewolves fighting Soviet Warebears in Stalingrad
@@Chordus_Gaius make sure you post the pics on Insta and FB so we get to see them please. Glad you like our game. Enjoy 😉.
I'm glad that Konflikt 47 is talked about more, a system that I definitely want to get into once I get the funds for it.
Also yeah I agree that parts of the lore should be expanded upon with a second edition of the game-on top of all the meta stuff.
One of the big things that got to me as I was reading was how wasteful the Soviet Union was during the invasions of Eastern Europe. Granted they had more of the numbers, but given all the wonder and horrid tech Germany posses and the countless casualties they caused on the Union, you would start to think there be some dissent with Soviet High Command or regular troops.
It's a good basis, they have something here and I would think it be a missed opportunity to not expand on it. Maybe the rifts operate differently depending on the location? How do the nation's populaces act with a dragged out war or new terror weapons invented? Something to make the world feel more real in this bizarro timeline.
They say some things about the German army escaping from Stalingrad in good order, or Japan faring better at Midway (in 1943 instead of the correct year, for some reason), as justifications for the continued war, but completely ignore the overwhelming problems that remain, like the complete German lack of oil which is only starting to be addressed in late 1946 with thrusts into the Caucuses and Iran via Turkey, or the Japanese having a tiny fraction of the industrial output of the US. They would have been better served with introducing supernatural elements for the handwavium and adopting an entirely different history of the war, perhaps making it start later under different circumstances.
Glad you like our game. Please post pics on FB and Insta when you get started. Enjoy.
Great vid! I tried to start wargaming with 28mm (40k) a lot of times during my whole life. During the pandemic i made a serious attempt because i painted models as a sort of therapy. I bought 40k but at the same time started getting into Bolt Action. UA-camrs talked about how the price and the rules were superior. I have a hard time with the rules of 40k but i feel that Bolt Action make sense right away. Warlord Games is taking over. I feel like they are making moves that deserve our attention and money. As i said, great post by you! 👍🏼
Thanks for watching, Don. The really nice thing about Warlord, especially in contrast to Games Workshop, is that they respect their customers. Warlord bent over backwards to not alienate their fans during the shutdowns, supply chokes, and shipping delays (some of which are still going), even taking a financial loss in some cases. They would rather lose money than lose a customer. This is almost unheard of today in the world of exploitative, pump-and-dump business models.
@@attentionspanlabs Yeah i totally agree on that one. I hope they can keep that good spirit going. Hopefully it will grow into a community similar to the GW fans. It’s already happening i believe. Take care! Greetings from Sweden.
Glad you like our game. Please post pics of units on FB and Insta when you get started. Enjoy.
I've been eying Konflikt 47 for a couple years now. Glad it's picking up a bit.
If you haven't already, consider sending Clockwork Goblin and/or Warlord an email telling them that you enjoy the game and want to see more. As a writer, I know that those notes of appreciation make a big difference.
We have loads of new stuff coming up. Glad you like it. Enjoy 😉
Great video. Thank you for being clear and explaining everything really well.
Thanks for watching!
Really enjoyed the video! Been looking for a GW alternative for a while now and this looks to be right up my alley.
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching!
Those figures and builds you have made look really cool. Dream Pod 9 has a similar idea, "Gear Krieg". It came as they started the pivot away from gaming, sadly. If stores have old stocks, there might have some figures you can liberate to use here. Many are 15mm, but they were supposed to have made some 28mm ones as well.
I own (or used to own, can't seem to find it now) the Gear Krieg book. I can't remember the details of the alt hist part, but I always liked DP9s other games, including Jovian Chronicles and Heavy Gear. Heavy Gear was actually very influential in terms of handling the "near future" military technology of my first attempt at a game setting, Undertow.
And yes, I know that Heavy Gear took place 6,000 years in the future, but the tech wasn't that advanced for various reasons.
@@attentionspanlabs Jovian Chronicles was an RPG we played fondly. I like HG, but never got a group together for it.
The one setting of theirs that baffled me a bit was "Tribe 8". (This may be better discussed elsewhere, in fact.) It got so weighed down in trying to sound 90s cool, it failed to explain itself adequately to play. I did like the idea of a spiritual apocalypse, though...
@@juddgoswick2024 I was baffled by descriptions of Tribe 8 too, so much so that I never looked into it further.
I've just started getting into Konflikt'47, so this video was ideal. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! There's another video on getting started with your army coming up soon.
Make sure you post your units up on FB and insta please. It helps us develop the game more with more support. Enjoy.
So where the heck was this hiding the entire time? Really cool gameplay, WWII models, wierd heroes, and a fringe technology backstory? Nice!
Hard to believe, but it's been out for almost eight years already!
Love the look! The mechs remind me of Front Mission!
Loved that game 😊
Will repost this now, I think Warlord Games needs to get this pitched more and out for people to see. They have a SF game (Gates of Antares) but it doesn't quite have that same kind of...insane glory that Konflikt 47 has. And, we need more stuff for the various factions and more reasons to get this game.
Real interesting game. Glad I found your video!
There is a novella (with another one coming soon, I hope) written in the Konflikt '47 world. Its a good alternate introduction to the Konflikt world
I love this game. The rule set is approachable but got depth. The model kits got SOUL. I don't know how to put it, just feel like the kind of toys I wanted to have in my childhood but never had.
Glad it does that for you. That was what we wanted when we designed it. Post yor pics on FB and insta please. Enjoy.
@@H8FTW Holy shit. Never thought I would get a reply from the one of the designers. I'd definitely do that once I finish building and painting them.
I have been curious about this game. Looks really cool
Been having friends tell me about konflikt and Bolt action for awhile now. I hope its as good as they say
One oif the best games and a really nice community
Thank you for your kind words and support. Post your units up on FB and insta please. Enjoy.
Sorry if someone asked this before, but in the video you mention you bought STLs for some of it? Where did you find Konflikt STLs?
I downloaded STLs for real-life WWII vehicles, like the M4 Sherman, the M7 Priest, and the jeeps.
I seen something about that game a few years ago. Looks like something I would play.
Hi, you mentioned that Konflikt 47 is fully compatible with Bolt Action, do you think it is a good idea to buy Bolt Action starter (Band of Brothers), and try out the game with my friend, and if we find it fun, expand the forces with Konflikt 47 units?
Yes, but the rules are a bit different between the two. Anyway, that's basically what I did.
Sounds kinda like a Tannhauser vibe! I'm interested!
Happy you found a table top you like. I’ve been playing 40K since 1994 yes there Problems in 40K sure but I honestly think if you like 40K keep playing it and if you like another game play that play things that make you happy very informative video definitely sumthing I’d look into as well thank you for the informative information 👍🏾
I don't think I said anything about not playing 40k. I still have many miniatures and I play with them, though I prefer to use non-GW rule systems like Stargrunt or Afterlife. What I don't do is give GW my money. Thanks for watching and commenting.
If you continue to support them despite admitting they have significant problems, you are the problem yourself.
@@DakotaMilesO read the post they have problems but i don’t have a problem with playing 40k never have I believe everyone plays what they want thank you for your comment have a nice day.
You have a very nicely painted army. I wish you would've shown it in more detail while you were speaking.
Thank you, Steven. I will have some more close up images in a forthcoming video.
Thank you! A great Video!
Glad you found it useful! Thanks for watching.
Awesome video and I love the game
Thanks for watching!
you can carry your 40k army to age of sigmar as long as you play chaos daemons
And if you're a man's man, you can take your Kharadron Overlords into 40k as Squats.
awesome vid....
i have a German heavy force in k47....and a big usa army in bolt action
love the way one can blend.
but we have expanded....as tech should in conflict.
so we brought in Dust Tactics/ Warfare vehicles....i have several AX801 Sturmluther/Stummel/Prinzluther
....basically walker half tracks......adds changes the tactics of the terrain. and on the campaign map....
anyways it could changes the wars potential out come in some fields where the germans were stalled....
a beer at the campfire talk for another day.
but with my upgraded night attack jadgars units....several victory break thru's on the campaign map front lines
until my foe adapted and my was units destroyed...lol
dust is the same basic theme.....so more toys of the same scale to play with
we also have a sprinkle of the sci-fi per-painted miniatures game AT-43 vehicles
so we dont follow the true k47 timeline....but we expanded our battlefields....story lines
and added some new tech.....tons of new units.....to an already weird war....more weridwar
now all we need is hail hydra and the red skull
same rules more potential what if....and a great game to build on
Walker transports would be very useful in urban and mountain areas. I would like to see more of them. Although I thought Dust was 1/35 scale?
I'm definitely buying a resin printer for my next miniature army so I'll check this out. Just be mindful of setting your focus on a distant object and then brining miniatures in close and out of focus.
I'll post a video in the next few days that shows all these models up close. Thanks for watching!
As someone with a resin printer, A couple of things i like to mention to folks looking to get into one. Unlike with any of the various filament printers, there is some additional things you have to know/have to work with them. The first big one. No matter what, do not ever let uncured resin touch your skin. Contact dermatitis is not fun whatsoever. Latex gloves are absolutely your friend. It won't be an issue at first, but over time it will create a sensitivity and you'll start breaking out in really painful rashes. I know too many people who did this to themselves to not make sure people know about this when they are looking into resin printers. The other thing I recommend is get a UV curing station. You can cure models in a sunny windowsill, but it can take quite a while and may not cure evenly. And if you have a few days of clouds, your models will be curing for several days before they are ready. A UV curing box is just more convenient, faster and more consistent.
All of that said, I absolutely love resin printing for models. they come out so smooth, so clean and just look absolutely fantastic. I've printed models for all kinds of games ranging from demons for Reign in Hell all the way to heavily armored troops for sci fi games like Five Parsecs from Home, and they always turn out really well. resin printing is definitely worth looking into for all kinds of tabletop gaming
Wanted to say thank you for visiting my site, I was unable to comment or read your entire comment. I guess thats UA-cam for ya. :)
I was mainly reminiscing about those airfix German bunker kits. I also suggested painting the bottom of the sand pit with Mod Podge to help with the warping, and then gluing a bit of yarn to the rim wherever there are gaps and then gluing Lichen or foliage to the yarn. That makes a flexible border with the ground.
I really enjoyed your videos. They are a walk down memory lane.
i like warhammer 40k but honestly konflikt 47 looks VERY intresting and nice really loving the allies mechs iron harvest syle
Best part is if you already play bolt action just buy some armored infantry, a tank conversion, and a mech, and behold, you're now playing Konflikt 47.
Yes, it is a pretty easy proposition to start playing K47 if you already play bolt action. To be honest though, I regret making these videos a little because I talked so much about how affordable the game was. Now, alas, it is extremely expensive.
@@attentionspanlabs cheaper than Warhammer when it comes to infantry, and to be honest I 3d printed my infantry and vehicles.
@@mr.buttram2837 Aye, but cheaper than Warhammer doesn't mean much. I definitely encourage anyone who wants to get involved in this game or any other historical period game start 3D printing.
I'd say it is way better then 40K. Keep, keeping it WEIRD!
Really late to the game here, but Kaiserreich has a great lore premise for althistory campaigns using this system
I have really wanted to play this for a while. If only I had a community 😪
Do you have an active bolt action group? Shouldn't be too hard to get a few to play with their existing armies.
Would love to see these weird war armies used with the Crossfire rules.
I hadn't heard of that before. But having just read it, variable-length turn concept sound super interesting
@@attentionspanlabs Yes, it's a super interesting ruleset. Eliminates measuring and even movement rates. Yet, nonetheless presents a believable representation of skirmish/platoon level combat. Worth looking into.
I have been thinking of creating an imperial guard army/necromunda gang in a setting between turnip 28/darkwood video games with a bit of steampunk mecha like in Iron harvest, I might check the ruleset. I had already heard a lot of compliment about bolt action activation rules from mini wargaming and your video reinforce that.
I love that sort of creativity. Back when I first started playing 40k, nearly every website (this was long before anti-social media) had their own take on things, with bizarre armies in fascinating sub-settings.
Turnip 28 is... uh... pretty weird, but has an interesting aesthetic. I could easily see Iron Harvest crossing over into K47. In any case, I definitely recommend checking out both the ruleset and the miniatures. You'd have to do a bit of cutting and gap filling, but you can combine parts from different models to make something unique.
Thanks for commenting!
@@attentionspanlabs man. Even white dwarf was like that back then. Is till remember the homebrew story around the flesh tearer in one of the old (around 15 years ago) white dwarf.
@@killyekfael4909 It was even crazier 25+ years ago. Alas, much of the fanbase today are obsessed with mathhammer and tournament play, slavishly following the latest codex even as they bitch about it.They will make videos complaining about it, but will never fail to buy the newest release. Oh well.
Anyway, if you like old White Dwarf, you should checkout the Herohammer fanzine: herohammer-fanzine.com/
21:00 Are you just unaware of West Wind's Secrets of the Third Reich WWW2 game, or were you deliberately omitting all mention of it for some arcane reason? The figs from that range are largely compatible with Konflikt 47 and Warlord's stuff can be ported to Secrets even easier (since Secrets has a robust design-your-own vehicle system), so your WWW2 figs have homes in multiple systems, and of course there are dozens of straight historical WW2 rule sets out there with varying degrees of complexity and realism.
I had heard the name, but that's about it. Pray forgive my inability to instantly recall every game I've ever encountered. I assure you there was nothing malicious about it and it will never happen again. ;)
I have a couple of small armies worth of 40K minis. I really don't like GW's ruleset. I just haven't got into playing a game with those rules in a long time. Konflikt 47 rules are really fun. I have taken units from my 40K armies and found the best fit from the Konflikt 47 ruleset for each. It can work well enough and games are fun.
Which models do you use as proxies for which units? I've seen a bunch of people online using Chaos Cultists and plague zombies for German Totenkorps.
@@attentionspanlabs It is kind of the reverse. I like the 40K setting and like the Konflict 47 rules so I take a 40k unit and kitbash the Konflict 47 rules that best fit. So like a unit of Tau fire warriors become for example: regular infantry with rifles 30" range with options for anti-tank grenades :XV8 Crisis Suit becomes a light jump walker with 3 hardpoints for systems or weapons. `light howitzer, mmg etc. I start with small 500-750 point games and then adjust points and such so nothing is so OP.
Yo, what's your take on One Page Rules' systems while we're on the topic of games to replace Warhammer with?
I actually have not played a game of OPR, though I support free, easy to learn rule systems on principle. When I want to play something set in the 40k milieu, I use one of the older editions (esp. 2nd) or modified Stargrunt II, which is also available for free on Ground Zero Games website.
@@attentionspanlabs Looking over it right now, it looks like a great crunchy game. I'd recommend Grimdark Future for the opposite reasons of it being a quick and streamlined game (and not streamlined as in dumb down, just removing unnecessary details and condensing the rules that have the same effects but given different names into a standardized set of rules).
Not sure how much of an endorsment it is, but I've tried getting my wife to play 40k for ~5 years, and only had 2 games. After playing OPR's game, she actually bought her own Robot Legion minis from their store and wants to build her own army.
@@KimKhan That's great to hear! Simpler games are the best introduction for new players. Desire for more crunch will develop overtime, or will arise naturally as house rules are made to cover unusual situations. At least, that's my take on it.
@@attentionspanlabs I've flip-flopped on that myself. In tabletop RPG's, I've always liked crunch (everyone wants to play D&D, I want to play percentile games based on RuneQuest rulesystems), and on wargames I WANT crunch because it makes things interesting and you can fiddle with it, but some games I am okay with it being simple if -the only thing more rules do is slow the game down-, which is what I kind of feel 40K is doing. But older editions were beautiful for that reasons, so much zany stuff was in them that was stripped out in later iterations.
@@KimKhan warlord games is operated by the same chaos who were working for games workshop 20 years ago. The rule set plays much easier and I think the best part is dice activation system. Really helps balance the game. No getting shot of the board on turn 1 or anything that just kills the fun of a game outright.
That's awesome! Where did you get the files for the Sherman and the jeeps?
Please see the description of this video for links to all of the STLs: ua-cam.com/video/HwtqNeTQuQQ/v-deo.html
Thank!
Hi is Konflict 47 cross compatible with Bolt Action? My friends are interested in Bolt Action and I'm looking at those werebears lol
Yes, this is one of the main highlights of the video.
Short answer yes. Long answer 1>Cheaper buy in compared to 40K 2> Better balanced than 40K 3> Better overall rules than 40K 4> Did I mention cheaper than 40K?
Oh yeah your K47 army also largely doubles over for Bolt Action also. So your tank with the K47 turret also comes with a BA turret a simple swap and bam its ready. A lot of the troops cross over as well.
@@WarpedMindFilm Two games for the price of one is a big deal. When I first started, I figured I would only play K47, but now I am almost as interested in playing vanilla Bolt Action. Also, compared to modern 40k players, most BA players don't care if you want to use proxy models.
How does this compare to dust 1947? I have a lot of minis for that weird world war 2 game.
For one thing, this is 28mm(1/56) while Dust is, I think, 1/35. So vehicles without visible pilots may be able to be used, but otherwise it will obviously out of scale.
Looking at what GWs doing recently this seems like a great alternative to make my wallet empty
Thanks for watching. This is a really good game and will stretch your gaming dollar.
I find it encouraging that your only real gripe is that the unrealistic, fantastic game is unrealistic with regards to being plausible. I'm going to have to check this out.
You mentioned that you had ideas on how to expand the universe and make it make more sense. Would you mind expanding on this? I would like to hear them.
Yes sir, I will. I am going to put up some videos hopefully over the next week about my adaptation of the K47 setting and using other Osprey Adventures books ("Nazi Occult", "Nazi Moonbase", and "Cthulhu Wars") for source material, as well as public domain fiction. One thing that I abandon is the idea that WWII happened as it did in real life until 1944. There's just no way that the Axis could hold out two more years, unless maybe they were the only ones with super-tech, because they simply did not have the industry or the fuel. On the other hand, if you tweak the history so that the war starts later, or there are entirely different principles at work at the start of the war, you can do things that area bit more wild and yet still plausible within the context of the setting.
For starters, in my setting WWI played out differently, with a faster Russian collapse and a negotiated peace. America never enters the war, Russia never falls to the Communists, and Imperial Germany is in control of most of Eastern Europe. Throw in a lot of spiritualism from Arthur Conan Doyle stories, Edgar Rice Burroughs' Pellucidar and a Vril Society to conquer it, and Heaviside Layer entities sending mysterious transmissions to human belligerents and mix it up. I hope you'll subscribe to follow along with the hobby vlog.
@@attentionspanlabs sure will subscribe. That sounds really cool but if the US doesn't even enter the war than they will be at a huge disadvantage at the start of WW2. How will they have the experience from the vets previous wars? What about all the generals who rose to rank because of that war? Does the stock market crash still happen? So many factors. I agree that Germany couldn't last longer but if you change it that far back then so much changes. If the commies don't take over then the Soviets will be so different. Will Japan even have a reason to start conquering? Sorry to go off but it opens up so many questions.
But I can't wait to hear more about K47. And glad to see someone else liked the Osprey Adventure series. It's a shame they don't publish new ones.
Want to get it started locally but after the rapid rise and fall of 40k 8th edition locally it's hard to get local players into any tabletop game. There were attempts at starting other tabletop games but most were content to return to magic the gathering. We have a slowly growing Warmachine/Hordes group and that's about it.
Whereabouts do you live? You might want to pitch historical wargaming or sci-fi wargaming more generally. If you build it, they will come.
@@attentionspanlabs I did wind up buying 2 starter armies to paint up and see if I can grow some interest. I have some Bolt Action experience. I remember when the only issue was the theme lists that let you take 2 flame tanks for Soviets. It was a very OP combo but tournaments quickly banned it. Unlike 40K one thing I've found with historical wargame type groups is if something is released that is very unbalanced they will just flat out ban it from tournaments.
@@slimjim7411 Thanks for the update. I hope you convince some more people to pick up the game.
Flame weapons are seriously devastating in a lot of games, including Bolt Action, Stargrave, and Stargrunt II, which is fair. I am a fan of flame tanks myself and I have a few Sherman Crocodiles printed for my use.
with the first turn kill meta going on in competitive 40k right now, the action dice method that bolt action uses seems so much better.
to me, the system does a much better job of simulating what might happen in real time.
Nothing is perfect, but the random activation is pretty good
Looks like a remake of Gear Kreig by Dream Pod 9 from 2001.
When I looked up on the game I was suprised, but in defience they have a lot of more army than I though, they even have hungarian and romanian forces as well. It was a very pleasent suprise because as a hungarian is rare than I can see my country representet in a game.
Indeed, Warlord has an extremely well supported WWII line, with units from just about every belligerent. Thanks for watching!
@@attentionspanlabs Yes, it is really good suprise. I never played such games, but the Warhammer stared make me pretty more interested, but than happend what happend so now I am little lost that I want even doing anything with the whole hobby or not at all. + In my country I don't even know that it is even a relevantly big wargame community at all, but I digress becuase it is just a little sad rant.
It was a interesting video and I agree with your verdict about the lore, it is very unbelivible, if this strange supernatural things doesn't give food, oil and other resources to the axis I don't know how are they survived until this long.
Excellent video. Do you have any recommendations for air craft. GW have the Valkyrie - does anyone else do an alternative?
Unfortunately, it is very hard to find 1/56 scale WWII aircraft. You can 3D print almost anything, of course, but aside from that...
Sarissa Precission makes a 1/56 (true 28mm) scale Sioux helicopter from the Korean war. These are the medical airlift helos used on M*A*S*H. I use other Korean era vehicles in K47, so you could use this reasonably as well.
Revell makes a 1/72 scale Haunebu II (German Flying Saucer). 1/72 scale is of course wrong, but since the Haunebu II didn't really exist (or did it?), it's hard to quibble over whether or not it is scaled correctly for the table. It's still quite big and takes up a lot of tabletop space, but looks quite impressive. I'm still painting mine, but I'm sure I will feature it in a future video.
I hasten to add that you can call in air strikes without representing it with a model. This is not GW, after all.
I love it. As an ork player, American walkers feel kind of orky....
I am not a serious player though, as you can tell by me being an ork player in 40k. Is one of the armies relatable to the ork play style (I dont mean for tournament play either)? Kind of wild, lucky with a dash of skill when required?
Soviets do the "human wave" with mass quantities of usually lower quality troops. They also have werebears that are completely savage in combat. Japan's 'banzai' suicide charges and several units focused on close combat might also qualify.
@@attentionspanlabs Awesome! I am gonna check out the game, specifically the Soviets and the Werebears!. It looks awesome and should be a great alternative to GW. They have done a great job alienating me lately so here I am👍
I started to make a homebrew-book on the BoltAction/Konflikt47-Universe, which is set in a TNO-esque, post apocalyptic setting.
As for vanilla K47/BA: Both systems are by far better and arent made by a moneyhungry juggernaut whos trying to tell you what you have to put on the gaming table in their shops.
What is TNO?
Looks very similar to Dust: Tactics, etc...
Yep, although Dust: Tactics miniatures are mostly incompatible because they are a larger scale. Which is a shame, because I was hoping to buy some Dust minis to augment my force.
I was lucky to pick up the German and American starter boxes at half price. About 70 bucks Australian
Good deal!
this game would be the perfect place for me to implement my custom ww2 faction. freakin awesome
What is your custom WW2 faction?
@@attentionspanlabs Its an amalgamation of a number of different features from sci-fi and history. The ruthlessness of NOD from C&C, the defensive focus of the British forces from the Company of Heroes dlc, the armament's of Kriegers from 40k, and the seemingly hopeless and passionate situation of the Polish and French people of WW2.
Defensive specialists in siege warfare that have access to highly specialized technology. Low in number and manpower, but makes up for it in ferocity of national spirit, and a long history of marital training among the population (much like Switzerland).
"APCs" that have quick-trench laser cutters that can carve out a trench in minutes. Infantry forces that are low in number, but wear well designed corrugated steel plates on their chest and shoulders and wield powerful semi-automatic rifles and incredibly intimidating spiked maces for close combat. Large munition stockpiles of many multi-colored smoke grenades for every soldier, that act as not only defensive screens, but also as a completely separate battlefield language that can be easily traded out with different color dyes to keep the enemy from understanding it over the length of a war. Tanks that essentially, look like "dwarves", able to shrug off artillery shells and can burrow into the ground to reinforce trenches (NOD tick-tanks).
I never really landed on a name for the country though.
When ar you doing a konflikt 47 battle report?
Do people like those? If so, I'll set one up. I was going to do an after-action report on some recent games, but more particularly a series of videos on unit tactics (e.g. light walker tactics, infantry tactics, Rift-tech tanks vs. regular tanks, etc...)
@@attentionspanlabs It would be great to see more content on konflikt 47 keep it coming 🙏
Jacket and Mudskipper. Choice of champions. I actually did a vid of these two to prove my agreement!🙂🙂🙂
I watched that video!
Dads (who played 40k from the beginning), get your sons into Warlord games, I know I will. GW was ripping us off since I remember in 94’
I was painting a German grenadier tonight and my 8 year old daughter walked in and thought it was so cool, she asked “is that a bad guy?” I said he’s not good or bad he just loves his country, now go find your mom lol
That kind of answer will get you banned from certain wargaming conventions these days! I hope your daughter hasn't been talking to Midwinter Minis :D
These models look like they could be decent converts for a 40k army
How do you find people that play these games?
I have friends that are interested in the same things as me. There are also several local gaming groups that meet up at the FLGS.
And subbed. 🙂
Love K47, great game
What army do you play?
Got a German and US army,
Thinking of doing a Galahad and wardogs British soon.
I really like the visual look of this game and have done for a long time .. shame I cant find more people interesting in playing where I live .. one thing that sucks is investing into a new game system that you get no one to play with ...
Think I need to push more in my instagram account to try find people in uk to play diff stuff with ....
Good luck. I hope you find some players!
@@attentionspanlabs yeah I hope so .. a few of people in my area have just started to try out BattleTech alpha strike , I am just in process of printing some mechs to use .
Always a pain though when you try play something else that locally isn't popular .. we found this with titanicus and kill team both off which died a death here not long after launch .
This looks cool. I do love me some Weird War stuff. I hate the more fantastical variants with zombies, etc (I did get Reichbusters from Mythic. It was what was at the time). This seems more of a non fantasy mecha variant. I'm going to watch this vid. This reminds me of Dust. I swear some of those mechs look similar... Edit: ah it seems to have more fantastical themes that are typical in other weird war. Oh well...
The zombies, werewolves, werebears, and vampires are all technological. In my view, this is a huge weakness of the setting. If the Germans can stave off the 1944 advances in the west and east by supernatural zombies, the state of the world is almost believable. If they have to redirect industry they don't have to implanting machinery and power generators in their dead soldiers, then they have the same war-ending logistical problems as in real life.
Love DUST 1947. Hate that it's dead.
If the dollar wasn't so expensive for me rn (I'm from Brazil) I would totally start collecting the USSR Konflikt army, cause Warlord does have some nice bundle princes. But for rn, I'll have to wait for the economy to have a shift.
Their prices jumped considerably since this video posted. There are a lot of other manufacturers and of course you can 3d print if you have a machine and then just buy individual kits.
Speaking of Brazil, I would have liked to see a weird war Cobras Fumantes detachment.
@@attentionspanlabs yeah, when the prices of 3D printers drop a bit I'll grab one, so that I can do some army building and minis for ttrpgs.
Damn, this is cool, after getting shitted om FLGS, i decided to take dip on K47, tell me, which army should i play? I usually use Soviets on WWII themed games, but the Jerries are goddamn cool....
It depends on your aesthetic sense and the type of army you want to play. I like the American mechs best, so I picked them, but I also like the Germans and I have an unpainted army in the wings. My two friends play Russia and Japan, respectively.
reminded me dust war mech
This needs to be an RTS game in the vein of Iron Harvest.
Dos this have books
You mean prose novels and so forth? I believe there are a couple. One is called Seaforth's Ladies.
I'm a little puzzled by the lore for Konflikt '47, concerning contact with an unknown intelligence, because it was the German Nazis who claimed to be in contact with the Elurians(?); giving them advanced technology. Interesting game concept, though!
Every atomic bomb creates a rift in reality through which encoded transmissions are sent, containing, I guess, technical specs and so on. But nobody knows who or what the source is. My take was that it was an alternate reality humans, but nonhumans are also possible.
I'm sure the Germans think they are from Thule or Agartha or something. Assumptions by the other powers about who they are would be am interesting topic for a video.
@@attentionspanlabs Cool! I've just tried to find the name given to the entities the nazis alleged to have been in contact with, because I'm not certain that the name i give above is actual. But the nazis had enough crazy beliefs to help build an interesting game.
Cheers!
@@attentionspanlabs the Nazis claimed to be in contact with the Vril, whom they claimed gave them advanced technologies - apparently.
@@gavinjames1145 Yep, one of tee weirder beliefs of certain Nazi occultists, considering the Vril-Ya come from an early sci-fi book by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. I use them quite a bit on my setting based on public domain fiction.
@@attentionspanlabs I'm guessing you've heard about Operation Hi-jump, 1946-7? From the Vril to alleged antarctic nazi bases, I can imagine there's plenty to draw on for inspiration in Konflikt '47 and other such games.
I began playing Dust 1947 during lockdown late last year. I saw a K47 starter at my local store and loved the walkers and panzerpunk kind of units so I picked up a German starter. Since I had the troops, I decided to check out Bolt Action... now I have enough troops for full Bolt Action armies for Germany, USA and Soviets.
I wanted to get a K47 American starter but it comes with the old US infantry, which is not very good by comparison to the newer plastics. I may still pick up some of the walkers because they are really cool. Only the fact that they are resin and metal has put me off somewhat. I prefer to work with plastics whenever possible.
Another vote for "Secrets of the Third Reich". Germans, British, American and Soviets with supplement books adding Partisans and now Japanese and U.S. Marines.
Basic forces are an Infantry platoon with addition of up to 3 vehicles/mechs etc.
So no 40K issue of minimum base troops and hordes of super units
I really like the American rocket troopers and magazine-fed mortar, among some other units. Their Tesla cannon makes a good alternate model for the K47 towed Tesla, too. I will be picking up some of these in the future.
I notice a lot of gas masks. Are there rules for gas weaponry in the game?
Where can I find a place near me that plays this. I’m in Dothan Alabama. But everywhere around here is 40k!!! I want bolt action or flames of war!!!! Lol
Try posting fliers around your game stores or clubhouses. Maybe run a demo game or two.
Secrets of the Third Reich is another rule set you can use for this period .
Some Krauts from that game appear in my 'New Bolt Action Fire & Maneuver Rules Tested' video.
@@attentionspanlabs nice think about those rules you can use Konflict 47 figs
A game with mechs and historical sci-fi that didn't know about.....Please, Tell me more
I've got a bunch more K47 videos in the pipeline. Thanks for watching!
how about dust tactics?
I was tempted by Dust Tactics several years ago, but I never bought into it because of its larger scale. What do you think of it?
@@attentionspanlabs i have never played it but liked the idea of grid or measure play.
Maybe it's better maybe it isn't. But I do know what I'm using to kitbash my Guard army with...
Before I go and get accused of being a GW fanboy and jumping to their defense (I've seen the comments), I am a veeeery casual player who only kinda got into WH40k a little under two years ago, and only started actually building an army under a year ago. Their interactions with their fanbase in my limited experience has been pretty sh**ty, and their marketing practices while smart for getting them money, feel terrible as a consumer as they can string you along for a long time (still waiting on a damn 9th edition codex to even be announced for T'au). However there is a point that was brought up I immediately looked into because this game looks really interesting and I wanted to possibly get into it.
So I was taking a look at pricing, and while my experience is somewhat limited in WH pricing, they do feel slightly comparable to an extent. I do think there are some rough "equivalents" where Konflikt edges out ahead, and in general there are a lot more large/huge models in WH than Konflikt which would naturaly be more expensive, but there are also things like infantry squads where they can actually be slightly more expensive per model than some WH stuff (T'au player here, don't judge. Did a comparison of the cost of a box of fire warriors which in most stores is $50 which can support 10 models, and looked at infantry groups for Konflikt with similar to the same model count and was seeing price ranges from $44-58). Was seeing similar things with some vehicles as well but that was mainly off memory. It's mainly the low model count options where Konflict seems to really drop its price relative to games workshop which I can actually appreciate given how pricy a certain HQ unit I'm waiting to be restocked is. This is mainly an observation and not a major critique, but at least for me personally the relative cost is not a huge selling point for me (I also have a 3d printer that I enjoy using, so when possible I go cheap and just use that). Only bringing this up because the term affordable was thrown around, and the reality with "affordable" is that it's a somewhat relative term. Also depends on what you are interested in fielding.
Now, with that said, this game does still seem really interesting to me and I probably will dump some money into it once I actually have some disposable income. I enjoy the theme and have friends who would also be into it. While I'm not a major history buff like another friend of mine, I enjoy looking at the time period and like alt-history type shenanigans, especially if things get a bit weird with supernatural elements or sci-fi tech. It certainly peaks enough of an interest in me to have this go on a list of things to keep an eye on. Going to keep an eye out to see if I can find a rulebook in any local game shops, or if not just buy it from their website.
Unfortunately, Warlord raised their prices for many models after I made this video. I do not represent Warlord or Clockwork Goblin in any capacity, and I do not intend to speak for them, but I can only assume this is related to the diminishing purchasing power of the USD due to massive inflation, supply shortages, and perhaps other cost of business increases related to the superstitious, self-destructive policies of the Branch-Covidians that have virtually taken over the western world. To put this into perspective, two burgers, a hot dog, and an order of fries at Five Guys cost me $45 a few weeks ago.
Even so, Warlord sells a box of (for example) 30 US plastic multipose US Marines for $53 (previously $48). GW hasn't sold any unit of that size at that price point in at least two decades. Yes, these are standard Bolt Action miniatures, but most of any K47 is going to be standard Bolt Action miniatures. If you want to outfit an entire US reinforced platoon of Heavy Infantry in powered armor, you are going to pay quite a lot of money.
Also, Warlord is still doing a promotion to help offset the higher costs of shipping to the US, Europe, and the rest of the world by basically giving you a free unit with every order (including some of those $53 30-man units!).
Thank you for watching and commenting.
I see chaos is alive and well in the comments. Such heresy will not be abided lightly.
Convoluted backstory but the game looks cool
2 years later....here we are again, GW lol
Don't look back.
@@attentionspanlabs I dont plan to. Been wanting to find a new wargame and man, does this look like it scratches the itch
@@kornklone There's a lot of good weird WW2 games and minis out there, especially if you have a 3D printer.
So D-day is important for the time-space continuity, well shieeeeet
How does this compare with Dust?
I haven't played Dust. Dust is a larger scale and probably features fewer models per force.
@@attentionspanlabs I've been using the Dust and K47 Models together since 8th edition. I have some dust tactics Horten VTOLs as Arvus with my K47 Heavy German Infantry as Krieg Sturm Troopers, Spinnemechs as Sentinels and World War Toons Tigers as Leman Russ.
Oh yeah, I used to run a Cougar Exosuit as an Ogryn bodyguard with the slab shield and the death mask of Olanius.
The settings are kind of the same - Konflikt 47 evolved from AT43, which came from the mind of Paolo Parente, who is the creator of Dust 1947 as well. The rulesets are completely different though. Dust 1947 does away with all of the stuff that causes squabbling in games like 40K and even BA/K47 - no possibility for movement shenanigans, range squabbles, line of sight, cover-or-not, or template placement. It's fast and fun to play.
And it's not against the law to enjoy both!
How does it compare to battletech?
If you're asking about the wargame, I don't know. I only ever played the RPG. The scale is certainly much smaller than Battletech and the game world, is, of course, enormously different.
It doesn't. Battletech is MUCH better and cheaper to start playing.
How many armies are in this game?
There are K47 specific models for: Germany, US, UK & Commonwealth, Soviet Union, Italy, and Japan. Finland has a box set, but no K47 specific models (they use German stuff, mostly). Bolt Action supports all those, plus France, Belgium, Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, etc...