Missing Rings: Bill Elliott 1985
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2019
- Bill Elliott was one of the winningest and most popular drivers in NASCAR during the 1980s. But in 1985 he would have one of the toughest championship defeats in NASCAR history. This is the story of Bill Elliott’s 1985 NASCAR Winston Cup season. This is the story of Bill Elliott’s missing ring.
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Starts: 28
Wins: 11
Top 5s: 16
Top 10s: 18
Poles: 11
Laps Led: 1920
Standings: 2
Average Finish: 8.7
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I gotta admit, that was the first time I have ever heard anyone say "points leader Lake Speed" lol.
I didn't start watching NASCAR till 91, huge Richard then Kyle Petty fan, but can't ever forget Lake Speed Spam #9 car and Michael Waltrip punching him while in the car. 90's great sponsors...lol
@@vintvarner16 90's also had good paint schemes
@@billelliott7036 totally agree, like I said I was a huge Kyle Petty fan so the Mello Yello car with black and yellow and red and neon green to me was the coolest
Sad thing is. There was a time I wouldn't miss a race but now I don't even know what day they are racing or who the drivers are. Such a shame what NASCAR did to its self. Total suicide!
You're absolutely correct, I also never missed a Race weekend for the Winston Cup. The Busch Grand National & then even the The Craftsman Truck series came about. The Old "VCR Tapes recorded many of races. Then I got really lucky after moving from western New York down to West Palm Beach, Fl. In June of 1990. I got a job running Heavy Wrecker, Lowboy & Specialized Extended drop with added StingerTails that were Remotely Controlled rear steer. Anyways the company that they bought there Wrecker Units From (Miller Industries) Could get tickets to any Nascar track with Full Vip, true PIT PASSES All For Free. That wasn't even the Best Part Of The Hookup. The Best Being Able To Actually Work The Races Operating A Wrecker!!!!
All I Had To Do Was Ask Mike For The # of tickets I needed, for what race & If I was going Operate a Rollback Wrecker for the weekend & id have them within a few days. This is before Internet & all of the Electronic stuff of today. Thanks to MI inc. I was able to go to every track east of the Mississippi. I worked for the company in West Palm from 1990-1999. I was working The race when Earnhardt Sr. & Ernie Irvan Crashed & the deck lid flew off the #28 Texaco Havoline Ford up into the grandstands. That was when Sr. Got out of the Ambulance, told the guy who was running another Rollback to get the hell out of the car. He finished that race somehow. Was the wrecker driver who Towed The #20 Home Depot Car Crashed By Sliced Bread At Dover when he rolled it a bunch of times. Man there was so many BC I think over the 9 yrs or so that I worked probably 2-5 races a year but attended upwards to 12-15 maybe even upwards to 20 a year. I also have so many autographed stuff. I Had other Nascar items that I paid good $ for or that my Exwife bought. Now I Could Careless if I watch or even just listen to MRN's or PRN's Radio call of them races. Now I'll watch if It's a good track that puts on great racing but to watch every weekend on a damn 1.5 mile or even the 2 mile tracks is just boring AF. then they put the playoffs in & changed the points system to what they have now & the stages which are dumb as well. Then you get the short races in the Trucks & Xfinity series that when the stage ends & they throw the yellow flag & run 5,6 heck IVE counted up to 8 laps under yellow at the end of a stage until the throw the green again for next stage. Well if the race is 150-200 laps/miles & add in those yellows without any other reasons for them to throw the yellow caution flag & it's a lot of laps that isn't being run competitively. They Should Throw the yellow & let or make everyone put for fuel/tires & didn't count those laps under yellow it be better I think. Plus the 5 minute pit road clock is bs also. NASCAR better do something BC I know lots of folks that pay no attention to the sport anymore. Now the wanna make the series Worse by making the next gen 2022 cars built mostly made by outside vendors & the 3 auto makers in the series so that the dumber crew chiefs & whatnot are on a equal playing field. Might well bring back the cars they Ran for The "IROC" series. They don't like crew chiefs like Andy Petree, Jeff Hammonds & Chad Knuas Who Where All Great crew chiefs who could think outside of the box. There's nothing STOCK in these cars & trucks. If they wanna build the cars so all are equal, THE MIGHT AS WELL JUST SAY THE HELL WITH IT & GOTO ALL IRACING OR E RACING. LOL. TAKING so much away from teams so that the slow cars & teams are able to run up front. Not going to happen though bc alot of the drivers crash each race & or are always in the tail end laps down. Hell you & I could go take a driving experience sessions & then strap into say jj yeleys or some of these other drivers that always are in say like 25 place on back & we could do just as good if not better. At least I know I sure the hell could. You gotta have the balls to sometimes Flatfoot the bitch, Drive It Super Deep Into The Turn, stick the Nose & Bumper in Spot That Maybe is only there for a slut second. I believe that is a difference maker. It's like they know they suck, the car sucks so why try to do any of that & risk crashing & getting Hurt. When they can run 35th & go home with hood purse winnings & whatever else they get paid for endorsements & the team pays driver depending on the contract they have between them. I'd get sick of running in the back race after race. I'm telling you all that I bet out of everyone who's seen this posts & have commented that there's a few of us who if giving some time, could do just as good if not way better then some of these drivers. If any of you or if I had $150K to $250K to blow, we could get in a Camping World Truck or a Xfinity Car for a few races. Just like the Great North East Modified Shoe of Ryan Preece did with JGR in the xfinity series a few years ago. Bought his own ride BC of having sponsors & or himself had X amount of $ that he had to bring to team for funding. He chose JGR & a very limited HANDFUL of Races over a full season with a shitty team. It worked out for him. You can't tell me that there's only 40+ drivers in the states who are capable of wheelin a race car around. It's not like being a Nfl starting QB. Where all of the 32 football teams don't have a ghy who can play that position hood or great. It's racing for Christ Saks.
Feel exactly the same way. I couldn’t care less about nascar now.
I remember that year like it was yesterday,all the people and myself that were Nascar fans knew they had something that no one else had,when the others caught up or figured out what they were doing,the 9 didn't dominate anymore!!!they still won a championship a few years later,great driver and man, awesome Bill from Dawsonville!!!LATER!!!
When nascar scrambled to change rule after rule
In Bill Elliott's autobiography. It mentions where he and Harry Melling argued with NASCAR over the roof height rule change, raising the Fords a half inch and lowering the GMs a half inch. And yet Bill's cars were running the original ride height for GMs because the teardrop Thunderbird had enough down force that they had to raise the car to sit at the preferred height at speed and keep the fenders off the tires.
Winning the Winston million was way bigger than any championship.
Too bad they don't have anything like the Winston Million for the Cup Series anymore. 😞😞😞😞
The ironic part to me in how Darrell won the title that year was he did it being being so against how he was in 81 and 82.. in both those years he was like Bill but maybe a little more dominant as he won a ton of races especially at the short tracks. To win the title in 1985 he had to do the complete opposite and focused on those high finishes and not wins. Still blows my mind how he managed to switch it up so dramatically. Bill in contrast won the big deal races in 1985 but not many short tracks.. when they were both in their primes DW and Bill were to of the greats at both short tracks for DW and Big ones for Bill.
It still bums me out Bill only had 1 title, should had 2 at least.
1985 was very similar to 1996...Terry Labonte beating out Jeff Gordon for the title. Consistency and two wins trumped DNFs & ten wins.
RolandJovi 24 I’m a Gordon fan and as hard as that is to chew, it’s legit. NASCAR NEEDS to go back to season long championships
@@johnboy4025 I never said it wasn't legitimate. Just stating what happened. NASCAR will do what they think is best. For better or worse. I like a full championship season or a ten race elimination style playoff. I'm not particularly picky.
In my opinion the playoffs aren’t needed but they should have adjusted or overhauled the points system to rewards wins more
The playoff format is dumb. It shouldn't be counted the same as the real champions from seasons prior to the chase bs. Nascar should go back and re score the last 15 years by the previous scoring system. If you change the points system, how can you compare past champions to current ones? Pushed a lot of fans that built the sports popularity away.
Some say Dale Earnhardt could see the wind..... Bill didn't need to, he was that wind.
Was packing a little something extra under the hood....when it was found out, became nothing more than a breeze.
@@andrewfotopoulos7766 The Thunderbird aero package was of more importance.
Yeah Ernie built that little something extra under the hood and when no one else could make that magic, they started restricting them.
You damn right I am!
@@billelliott7036 we will always love ya brother. #9 ! 👍🇺🇸
No green white checker? No mystery caution for debris with five laps to go? No shootout finishes taking 7 restarts and 2 hours? Wonder how the sport even survived?🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
It’s crazy to think he scored 25% of his wins in this one season
..and was screwed by bill france and nascar.
Should have been champion 85 and 92(since Davey crashed out last race)as well as 88!!!
Finally you did the video I requested of my favorite driver and he should have won that title in 85 still my all time favorite NASCAR driver Bill Elliott
I saw the last time you requested and looked on my schedule seeing it upcoming. Glad you liked it man!
He won in 1988
Man bill was the man i remember his final full time race he blew a tire and bobby labonte won
@@sk8terboi10003 that made two races in his career he had won in the last half lap an i just wasn't mint to be he lead the 87 transsouth500 at darlington going into turn 3 an ran out of gas.
How he didn't win another title in his career is quite surprising
To think, reason he doesn’t have two championships is because Kulwicki led one more lap at Atlanta than he did.
Seems like mechanical problems proved to be Bill Elliott's undoing in both 1985 and 1992 (the latter case allowing an opening for both Davey Allison and Alan Kulwicki to catch up)
Alot of nascar outlawing everything that worked for fords
Because 1992 was the damn fuelman not giving me enough fuel
@@billelliott7036 if this is really you, just know, me and my family loved how you made those wndsors run and win for fords
Dale coulda won 2000, maybe 2001, just like Bill coulda won '85. Nobody thinks about that.
Ironhead was BF jr. favorite. EVERYBODY knew the favoritism. And the The Plate at the big tracks was NOT for safety. It was to keep the red Ford in sight. The WWF that was NASCAR at that time was ignorant.
Dale ernhardt wrecked nascar
Yeah. It's exactly the same. Earnhardt won two races in 2000. What a valid comparison. Earnhardt's true talent was playing the no DNF game. 2000 was a classic example of that. Elliott dominated 1985 but came up short. Rusty won 18 races over a two year period but lost both championships to Dale. The champion isn't always the most dominate car, driver, and team.
And how the hell does this not have more views already? The world needs to see his hard work!
People tune out when it gets further back than about 1996. The only real exception being for Dale Earnhardt.
@@TheIceberg I can see that. I enjoy watching the '90s, so it dont make sense to me, but I enjoy it. Keep it up!
God what great memories! Always was a Bill fan! It's what got me started watching NASCAR in 1985! Million dollar Bill!!!
Right there. 85 was the best yr for race cars.
They’re so bad ass
They need to get back to those styles.
So tuff & pimp too.
Same in F1 racing
Making up two laps under green at Talledega will never happen again
Idk. With Stages, its very doable.
I said "under green"
@@evannuh-koo-la4054 Ok.
I miss these 500 mile races. Now we run the daytona 200, stop, give everyone a chance to catch up, then go another hour or so and give another chance to catch up. 500 mile races should just run wire to wire. If there is a crash and caution then that's the way it goes. Green flag pit stops and strategy was part of winning a race. Stage racing and "playoffs" blow.
The 500 is still 500 miles, it’s 200 LAPS, not 500 laps
@@Ob1tuber I think you missed the point, I never said it was 500 laps.
Crazy how his car was so much better on the superspeedways where he could pull out that far in front of the pack. Couldn’t imagine that today.
Subscribed thanks for doing this bout my favorite driver keep up the awesome work!
I have enjoyed all your videos keep up the good work 👍
Absolutely Awesome !!
Really enjoy your content keep it coming!!!
Bill Elliott's #9 Coors Ford Thunderbird was a Rocketship that was faster than Keemstar when he's Fast AF, Boi! (That's Right, I went there.)
Lol
Is keemstarstar still relevant?
@@dougboukeboom3015 Yes because of his war against K-Pop Fans
He put Ford back on the map .My all time favorate
What he did at Talledaga will never be done again. It is the # 1 most impressive thing I have ever seen in racing!
The 80s had the best looking cars imo
Bill was the Man !
If anyone makes another "Hard to Swallow Pills" meme, one can be, "A $2 car part can cost you a Million Dollar Championship."
Bill Elliott won 11 races in 1985 number 9 Coors Ford Thunderbird including three Winston million crown Daytona Talladega and Darlington this before Jeff Gordon in 1997
I love y'all vids
Missing Rings: Greg Biffle 1999 Trucks
Back here after Chase Elliott’s 2020 Cup Championship win!
I miss Winston cup that's when racing to me was better i liked the original points system you had to be consistent. But you still had to win races look back at 2014 Ryan Newman could have won the championship if the other three drives would have problems and ryan didn't win a race all year long. If harvick would have problems early in the race or the last few laps then newman would have won back in 2014
This was the first year I really paid attention to the championship. I hated DW for years after that.
When looking back on Bill Elliott’s highlights back in 1985, this honestly feels like a championship season. But hey, at least Elliott did eventually win a title in 1988. Also, do a good seasons video on Cale Yarborough’s 1985 Campaign, as he had a pretty solid run before he fell off soon after this season.
I would love to but I’m not Black Flags Matter Lol. I’ll pass the idea to him though.
The Iceberg When you forget about which NASCAR you tuber made this video😂
Cant wait for bill to be on jrs podcast and go in details of that talladega car
I like the single camera view.
You forget to tell the part about how Nascar changed the rules multiple times to slow Elliott down an let the competition close in.
After that win at Dega - NASCAR and all the GM teams were pissed Rule changes weekly to slow down the 9 car the rest of the way. But the big issue for Bill was DNFs late in 1985 - team just ran out of gas and luck.
The year of Chevy crying 🤣
@@jimbosc nobody else could make that Ernie Elliott magic under the hood. And Bill handled it great, the two were amazing.
@@jeffstephen90 Erie outa be in hall of fame if nothing else for building the engine in the Daytona car that won the 125 by 38 seconds an the engine that made up 5 miles under green.ernie was not only a great engine builder but also crew chief he has 33 wins as a crew cheif an 40 as an engine builder their is very few with numbers like that in both. Wadell Wilson is the only one that I can think of with that many in both.he definitely should be in the hall of fame.
@@brianbooher7318 100%
Next you should do Missing Rings: "The Big 3" 2018
Hey this was racing at it's best no restrictor plates minimal rules just go balls out till the checkerd flag not stages where you must stop for pits
Maybe There was something to the theory NASCAR had to slow him down the Bobby Allison crash was the excuse they needed ..hmm
Of course they had to slow him down. Ernie was building power plants that no one could touch, Bill was driving the champion he is, and that Thunderbird was slick! Everyone would have been crying if he won 4 or 5 titles in a row (Mainly Waltrip and Earnhardt)
Personally, I think Elliott has 2 missing rings. 85 and 92.
Missing Rings: Lake Speed 1985
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That talledega car was fast.
Yes it was fast. what I think was more impressive than making up 5 miles under green was bills run in the first twin 125 in 1985.he won by 38 seconds
He won nearly 40% of races and still was second.
Missing Rings
Darrell Waltrip 1979
Bobby Allison 1981-82
Matt Kenseth 1998-99
Carl Edwards 2008
I think that at this time it was as important to win races as it was to win the points. After this year it started to change and now it's really about points. I can't understand today's races. I remember when a fast team could blow an engine, change it during the race, and still finish in the top ten.
Bill will always be better than Chase.
Depends in what aspect. In the speed record, yes, in the Work-For-Your-Ride, yes, but in more kid friendly sponsors, Chase will prevail. Also, you doing QuipLash still?
@@camedicracing5866 yes but my brother is hogging the tv and Idk when he will be done
@@fishproductions22 Siblings be like that. I will probably be back on YT in about half an hour. Gonna join if/when i can.
I’d love to see this video from d.w championship quest prospective
Elliott won a lot, but DW racked up points in those races. Elliott was inconsistent on the short tracks. DW took advantage of the points system not awarding enough points for actually winning the race. DW won the Cup by stealth.
Just an FYI
I made a really nice model of Million $ Bill’s #9 Dodge with Evernham.
Bill’s last yr. I built it and did a good job too I mite say. 😏
Love that thing because I did it myself instead of buying a diecast but I’d much rather have this Coors car or his Budweiser car.
Those are so bad ass.
When Nascar was exciting
When he beat you he beat you good
I recall Bill and Ernie saying Inexperience was the biggest reason they lost the championship in 85. They had stupid stuff fail, Batch of bad parts, bolts...when it happened more than once they should've went a different direction with parts.....Quote from Bill himself. He really should have 3 championships. 85-88-92. Just wasn't meant to be. NASCAR making them boys tear the car down every week in 85-86 and 87 didn't help either. Trying to find something wrong on it. When you have less than 20 people on the whole crew including engine guys and everything, and they're already working 14 plus hour days. That kind of puts even more stress on you, having to put your race car back together over and over while getting ready for the next weekend. They should've left them alone and let them race, but nooooo people like "Jaws" ran their mouths, chevy was crying. No telling what they could've done if NASCAR would've left them alone. Ole France Jr...."You're not gonna stink up my show". Well being a Bill Elliott fan, it smelled pretty good to me. Ernie was sharp on engines as well. Still is.
Those ominous concrete walls though 👀
My dad.
Miss watching your Dad with my Dad. Great memories.
Same here Chase! And congrats on your championship!
I should also say, when I first saw " missing rings" I thought it was a conspiracy about missing piston rings or something!
Same here. I thought maybe an "after race" teardown they found missing rings and disqualified him.
Bill Elliott missing rings Daytona 500 1992, 1997, & 2000 he should have at least three Daytona 500 wins if not possible five wins in that race. 😊
Missing Rings: Kyle Busch 2018
More like missing rings the big 3
Are you Serious What If ?
Everyone in life can look back and say What if
Million dollar Bill
Don't u mean missing rings: william clyde elliot 1985?
alief guache Ha!!!!! That is almost as funny as Ironhead Earnhardt.
As you say “What if?” What if he had a true blow in one of the races he won? Unfortunately we will never know.
Fact is Before nascar banned the Cleveland canted valve heads the ford racers were unstopable winning most everything just like Glidden did in pro stock with his ford clevelands. If those awesome breathing heads had never been banned then earnhardt etc would have never been anybody.
RIP Winston Cup
3:24 a middle finger from waltrip lol
That car belongs in the Smithsonian. The pinnacle of what NASCAR allowed men to create
The sad part was #3 didn't like it and he cried so badly but after all was done the man took his name frome being most popular driver away bill won the million but junior johnson stops all of it
Missing Rings: Harry Gant 1984
Well they described aysewhole Waltrip correctly: JAWS!
bIlL!
Is there any videos on this car? Why did it dominate so much. I know the car restrictions were NOTHING like they are now, but that 9 team had to be cheating.
That car dominated so much because that T-bird was sleek, Ernie built a monster power plant under the hood and Bill wasn’t scared to mat it.
You have to be kidding me
Missing rings: Greg Biffle 2005
1992 was the real bullshitz...(bill's)very comparable to Chase's 2020 won 6 total including last race of season...unfortunately the hooter's car finished second and stole the 🏆 from Bill and Davey!!! Still miss Davey on track and off...he'd b here next wk to hunt with us again like he used to n a perfect world! along side my dad whos gone also...Davey was hell of a guy always had time for us mountain kids (was 14 n 92) even though was his post season getaway Vacation...
NASCAR did not like a Ford wining NASCAR liked GM car's NASCAR and GM had something going on
If ya can’t beat em restrict them right Childress/Earnhardt??? 😢😢😢😢
Then nascar started changing rule after rule like they have everytime Ford's start dominating ...get a book and read the rule change history
When you win a third too nearly half the damn races in a season and not win the championship... there is a problem with your point system. BTW that can very well happen too today and the fandum would lose their minds.
No matter what people are just going to complain sometimes, people say the playoffs are awful because the guy who has seasons like Bill Elliott in 85 lost out but whenever this happened back then it's ok. No matter what format is made the champion earned it and deserves it whether they light the season on fire or sneak their way into it
Problem is that usually when Elliott wasn’t winning his team was failing him and they were having mechanical failures. Waltrip was much less streaky. He deserved the title because Elliott couldn’t stay as good as him when it counted most.
@@TheIceberg To me it's so frustrating that people crap on this playoffs format over the guy who wins the most races missing out on the championship but when Richard Petty wins a championship in what is probably the most idiotic system ever nobody complains
@@nascar4842 what was that point system? (Not trying to start an argument, just curious)
@@SergioMenaGTS You mean when I brought up Richard Petty?
I miss the old NASCAR I do not watch the new NASCAR I grew up on Tobaccoville Road MRN racing on every station on a Sunday afternoon. The racing today with the PC correctness and all this going on I just lost interest. Back then I knew every driver every car every crew chief every race. Listen to qualifying on Thursdays and Fridays getting in on the race pools love the race pools. They stole NASCAR .
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MEEEEE!
Everybody knows who bill elliott is.lol I didnt pull for him but anybody knows him. Nobody knows who his son is because nobody watches nascar anymore. I could ask 100 people I know who he is and maybe 3 would know.
Missing Rings: Chase Elliott 2015
you should make a video on why you don't like women