USS Astoria (CA-34) - Guide 223
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- USS Astoria, an Astoria class heavy cruiser of the US Navy, is today's subject.
Read more about the ship here:
www.amazon.co.uk/Neptunes-Inferno-U-S-Navy-Guadalcanal/dp/0553385127
www.amazon.co.uk/U-S-Cruisers-Illustrated-Design-History/dp/168247626X
www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/a/astoria-ca-34-ii.html
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Next on the list:
Caio Duilio class ironclads
Garibaldi class
Pisa class
HMS Inflexible (1876)
German S-90
HMVS Cerberus,
USS Minneapolis, CA-36
USS Long Beach
SMS Lutzow
HMS Sovereign of the Seas
SS Great Eastern
Pinguin
German Auxiliary Cruiser Atlantis
Project 24 Sovetsky Soyuz class Battleship
PT Boats
Z Class
Cleveland class
SM U-156
Boston class
Des Moines Heavy cruisers.
Hydra Class Ironclads
Audacious class CV's
Malta class
Hunt class
Tennessee-class cruiser
The Merrimack and Mersey class of frigates
Henri IV
USS Marblehead
HMS Caroline
Ships of Battle of Campeche
Pinned post for Q&A :)
Ship class renames seem pretty rare...any other examples?
Class guide(s) on the German WW2 destroyers, please? :)
Did any of the rocket based anti-air systems during WW2 get any use and where they at all effective?
The Germans get a lot of flak for escorting the Bismarck only with Prinz Eugen but what if they did the opposite and threw everything including the kitchen sink at it. Bismarck is not only escorted by prinz eugen, but also every single available light cruisers, destroyers, torpedo boats, Schleswig-Holstein and Schlesien are also brought in, and finally the Kriegsmarine sailing training ships decides to join in because they didn’t want to miss the party. How would the British react to this rag tag fleet and would the Germans do better, worse or the same?
Note: The sailing ship are equipped and prepared for a boarding action.
How are those damage report drawings made? I can't imagine somebody calmly walking around in a battle taking Pictures or making sketches? (Ofc applying for sunken ships)
Whow! 5 min and 40 seconds.. that as close as you've managed to a 5 min guide in years! *sits in awe of Drach's mastery of matters nautical*
Could have been closer to 5 minutes but for the repeated segment :-)
2:43 "Just in case a random Hilfskreuzer decided to hilf itself to a US ship."
GET OFF MY LEG!
Hilfe! 😂
That's now the canonical persona of said ship, should one ever appear in an Anime' as a recurring character XD.
"Get off me; Hilfe-chan!!"
@@VersusARCH
Veni
Vidi
Hilfi
Pin it. First sighting of a brand new Drachism. And a damn solid one.
Lol so I had UA-cam on autoplay whilst I slept and this came up apparently ... the gun salvo sounds woke me up. I'm not even upset.
Welcome! I'm sure you'll love this channel.
Guess you found your alarm clock tone.
Gun goes boom
Nice way to be woken up. I was playing a Ace Combat one time and started dozing and repeatedly got woke up by the "Pull up" warning me I was about to hit terrain.
Resting in Ironbottom Sound with Vincennes, Quincy and Canberra for nearly 80 years
spoiler
Speaking of resting on the bottom, was that picture of a sonar specifically of her laying on her side, or was she sitting up right? And thank you for your time
@@Cbabilon675 she reportedly was upright but her bow is missing
Resting there until the low life scum that have been stripping WW2 wrecks for salvage get to her. They should use those pirates for target practice.
well maybe they should have jinked when they tried to juke
My mother's first husband was killed on this ship. He was Eugene Earl Amick. A DE, USS Amick was named in his honor.
That must be a weird feeling. Unless your father was the first husband, you wouldn't exist if not for his loss. 😳
Yes, and it's heart wrenching to remember these guys, and their young wives, were just kids really, and in a sense they sacrificed their lives and futures so you and I, all of us, could be here.
So my mom greived, her life went on and a year after christening the ship named after her husband, she met my future dad, a career army man. Good thing for me, I guess!
BTW, This is one of my favorite history channels.
Sorry to hear this, my Great Uncle was aboard this ship when she went down, they were probably friends or at the least familiar with one another his name was Vincent Patrick Healey he was in the water for a while before being saved..those guys were of a different kind!!
@@justinhealey2408 I see that he became a Navy rear admiral. Thank you, Bruce and Justin, for writing the stories of those men.
@@workingguy-OU812 True Heroes!
I live in Astoria, Oregon (all 28 years of my life) where this ship is named after. It's very famous here of course.
Sixty years ago I knew how many steps were in the tower there from various family trips down the coast. Have lost that count somewhere in the recesses of my brain.
@@shorttimer874
Do stop by again. Tower is always a good visit as well as the Oregon Coast.
I remember going to Astoria before the bridge across the Columbia River was built. You either took a ferry or drove to Longview to cross south into Oregon.
Home of the Goonies too lol
My grandfather survived the sinking of this ship, I received stunning details from his Navy file such as the reimbursement forms the survivors had filled out for the replacement of personal items lost ,such as a hair comb, toothbrush,etc. Grateful to be alive, thanks for sharing this video
Bonus points for pronouncing New Orleans correctly. Bravo
"Through the Perilous Night: The Astoria's Last Battle" by Joe James Custer gives a war correspondents perspective of the USS Astoria through it's final battle. Picked it up over a decade ago, great read.
1:29 , we get it drach, Astoria was launched first, no need to repeat it twice
Hundreds of video's all of exceptional quality, released at a near break-neck pace. I for one can live with the occasional editing oversight. (Though I did look up at that moment as well :) )
I had to back that up to be sure I didn't miss something
@@paulwoodman5131 There are more than one 'editing oversights' associated with this particular thread. :)
Compared to Robo-Drach's [glorious] slipups; tis a minor hiccup!.
Thank you Drach! I've been waiting for this one. Holy Crap, my uncle got to serve on the same ship as Admiral Fletcher! He never mentioned that or that he witnessed the sinking of the Yorktown either.
As an Oregon resident I appreciate so light being shined on the poor Astoria. If I remember right. Her wheel house still sits in the Astoria maritime museum
Probably one of the most good looking cruisers
Was only this morning reading about the Astoria in "Neptune's Inferno" and thought, hmm, must look into the Astoria. Thank you, Drach. Superb timing.
My father, Richard A. Pefley, was a crew member on board the Astoria. Just before Dec 7, the
Astoria left Pearl Harbor. But she left a hand full of the crew in Pearl to do small boat maintenance at the coal piers. My father being a boatswain's mate, was one of those men. The battle at Savo Island left my father a psychological mess for the rest of his life. He would never talk about the experience. I would think his battle station would have been a ammunition handler at an antiaircraft gun. His re assignment was to a convoy aircraft carrier in the Atlantic for the remainder of the war.
Good morning from the Left Coast. Another request for an episode on the USS Savannah CL42, or how to survive a Fritz in your magazine. And thank you for your work. Terrier is awake, gotta take her out.
I myself have an Attack Yorkshire terrier
So Terrier is your...wife/girlfriend?
@@richardm3023 just my pet dog
@@richardm3023 Terrier is my medium range SAM
@@gluesniffingdude Mine too, I was an FTM on a Terrier missile battery
I don’t know how to express how much this channel works for me
Patreon, subscriptions, etc
Best Saturday Am: Coffee? Check Pipe? Check Drac vid? Check
Never get tired of these episodes. In the far future, when you've run out of WW2 topics, it would be interesting to hear about the use of WW2 ships for naval gunfire support in the Vietnam War. Was accuracy and spotting any better? [Drachinfel rolls eyes, links me to video issued years ago covering this very topic...]
Granted: our lord and saviour Drach' should have a FAQ web' page; each linking to the particular Drydock segment where he's answered it ^_^ .
(as it is possible to link a UA-cam video down to a specific time index)
From what I recall, most naval artillary came in the form of destroyers and their 5" 38s. They could get in close to the coast and be pretty accurate with a spotter on the phone. If they needed anything bigger, I don't remember if there were any gun cruisers left, and I think they only activated a BB once in the theater.
@@davidkaminski615 USS Saint Paul (CA-73, Baltimore class) made five deployments to Vietnam, which included some shots at 70,000 yards using sub-caliber (about 4.125") projectiles.
Lastly, the story of the New Orleans-class is mixed in with the Portland-class, as USS Portland and her sister USS Indianapolis were authorized immediately before and after Astoria as CA-33 and CA-35 (and all were preceded by New Orleans' authorization as CA-32), yet the two Portland-class cruisers were laid down prior to any of the subsequent cruisers and completed far more rapidly than the latter vessels, due to the need for heavy cruisers that could serve as fleet flagships.
This doesn't diminish what USS Astoria accomplished or represented in the slightest, but understanding USN conventions were and aren't now completely compatible with RN convention tells a much fuller story of naval history.
It has little to do with "the need for heavy cruisers". CAs 32-36 were all initially authorized as marginally improved Northamptons for FY 29. However, due to a general dissatisfaction with their protection and the signing of the 1930 London treaty the design was thoroughly reworked. Since CA 33 and 35 were ordered to private builders, it would be too expensive to alter their contracts, so the builders continued with the earlier design. The rest (32, 34 and 36) were built at navy yards so changes in the design could be accommodated more easily, but it also required an extra time to complete them.
Reference:
Chapter V "Second Generation Treaty Cruisers" in
Norman Friedman, U.S. Cruisers, 1984, by the United States Naval Institute, Annapolis, Maryland, 496 pp.
ISBN 0-87021-718-6
@@alexanderyankovsky7804 Um, no. The Portlands, originally envisioned as a class of six heavy cruisers, was the lead authorization of the Cruiser Act, not the preceding Northampton-class. The Portland-class did share the designed fleet flagship mission with three of the Northamptons, but it was the effect of the Great Depression that radically altered the first four members of the New Orleans-class, not the treaty from the following year.
The London Naval Treaty of 1930 allocated a maximum of 18 heavy cruiser hulls paired with a 180,000 ton total tonnage limit, yet it wasn't until 1935 that the USN matched the hull limit when USS Wichita was laid down halfway through FDR's first term in office. The aircraft carrier tonnage limit would not be fully allocated until the following year when USS Wasp was laid down.
His predecessor was so stingy only seven of the 19 heavy cruisers authorized by the Cruiser Act were laid down during Hoover's term, reflecting the "Great Humanitarian's" philosophy as shaped by his Treasury Secretary Andrew "Liquidate" Mellon. It was the federal government that set policy, and the treaty system collapsed not only due to the Japanese, but the authorization of capital ship construction above the original tonnage limits in the Naval Act of 1938, to say nothing of the immese buildup triggered by the Two-Ocean Navy Act of 1940.
I had a great uncle on the Astoria when it was sunk at Savo Island. He had just transferred from the Vincennes just 3 days prior.
The Episcopal Priest who baptized my son was the senior surviving officer on the Vincennes. He was the gunnery officer. He took holy orders after he retired from the Navy. (Rear Admiral Robert Craighill.
Been watching the videos on the naval battles of Guadalcanal and the Japanese came frighteningly close to winning it all.
Midway may have been a turning point but it was Guadalcanal where we finally turned the dagger away from our heart and towards Japan's
I really love the pics of sunken ships at the seabed, so ominous...
The last time I was this early, Ugg's brother still thought fire was a good idea.
Floaty Log is best of warships
That must of been before Ugg tried to BBQ the live pig.
Not as big a discovery as people think. Between the discovery of how to make fire, then how to make bread and finally how to make beer, it was 200,000 years before we could have a BBQ
Grog not like floa-tee log. Grog feel strange...🤢
"Fire not problem, location problem." -Ugg after "The Incident"
my stepfather [Petter t Pappas] was on this ship when it wen't down...he became a guest of the japanese.
@Surigao 1944 pete was pretty tight lipped about the whole affair, but i understand he ended up on shanklin island to the end of the war.
Brave ship and brave crews. 👍
Astoria is a very pretty little city. Definitely visit if you get the chance.
Coffee and Drach, first thing in the morning
Or Tea & Drach' :D
You said that the class was named after the Astoria because it was the first ship laid down twice, at least I’ll be sure to remember that now. Its funny to see a little mistake in people their videos, makes it feel more human if you ask me.
I was looking for someone mentioning the glitch. The repeat starts at 1:25.
Proud ship, proud crew.
Thank you, Drachinifel.
My Pop grew up in Astoria, Queens. Part of New York City. I was born in Astoria General Hospital. Have always had a place in my heart for this ship.
Tragic.... brave saliohrs.
its kinda sad seeing her Vincennes, and Quincy fighting to the very last, assuring the two girls it'll be fine, and being grateful for the two to also join her in the fighting
Is Azur Lane a documentary and not fiction? ;)
@@tominiowa2513 part documentary part fiction, you can't say these girls doesn't exist, they're just in a different form, but at the same time you can't say these limited time events happen because there is no such thing such as Siren threats
no please
@@nitsu2947 - If it was real, it would be weird for Bismarck to be asking Tirpitz to dance with her at the ball, since they are sisters.
@@tominiowa2513 there was a proposal for Bismarck's breakout to be delayed so Tirpitz can finish up training and building. But it was rejected. Not sure how you interpret this, but to me its technically Bismarck asking Tirpitz out for a dance
Ahhh... the Saturday morning Drach snack..
Brunch.
1:41 getting a definite deja Vu/groundhog day vibe here
USS Astoria, going closer and closer to USS Minneapolis. Yay!
This was a good ship.
This came out the same time when I was reading the axis of time series and it had this ship centered stage for a chapter
8 views, 12 comments and 102 likes. Well we all know how good his videos are. Even people who haven't seen it like it and will say so.
How about showing something about the USS Snowden haul number 246 that is the ship my father was a Captain of the destoryer
Is it me. But the people that put dislikes on the video. And don't say why 🙄🙄🙄. Just do it for the sake of it
Don't think minor slip-ups merit comment. Thank you for your hard work and videos.
Can you do the uss nashville? My grandpa served on it in ww2
Love your work.
...nor was the loss of a lead ship a guarantee that a class would be renamed. USS Atlanta and Juneau were both lost in the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal, yet the class name did not devolve to the oldest surviving ship, namely USS San Diego.
The tendency to rename American warship classes after the lead vessel is lost at sea is a thing, as the Thresher-class attack boats became the Permit-class after the loss of the original class-leader in 1963, but it doesn't appear to become customary until the Cold War.
Still waiting for one of my favourite ships... HMS Aurora. By my count she was “involved” in the sinking of around 17 ships and survived some battle damage as well. Almost in the class of Warspite!
Scrolling down to see how much of the comment section is complaints about Drach's pronunciation of "New Orleans" :P.
You mean the proper way
I will always call the class 'Astoria class', as [like most Brit's] french nouns are a pain to iterate.
That; and Astoria deserves no less.
Nawwlense
Sticking with Arlo Guthrie would be safer than trying to copy the natives of said city.
He's made at least two different attempts (French and then noo-OAR-lee-enz in the first minute.
noo-oar-LEENZ is still nowhere to be found, let alone the more local NOOR-lenz.)
We do get PYOO-jet. There are some 'Muracnisms creeping in. And then I'm quite surprised to hear ree-PRIZED rather than reh-PREEZED. ("re-PRIZE-uhls", I would expect.) Yankee Doodle, Keep it Up, just never confound PRIMM-er (a lesson) and PRYME-er (gunnery). You should never go Full 'Mur'can. Besides, it would become itchy.
Whats all that paper looking debris flying out of the gun turret as it fires in the opening credits ?
Keeping with the tradition of US cruisers losing their bows, her bow separated and landed on her aircraft hanger at the bottom of Ironbottom Sound.
It's like a mix of the Town class and the County class.
Didn't Chicago fail to give the Astoria, Quincy and Vincennes any warning?
Did you cut this right? seems weird to me around 1:28 and 1:38 area... Covering the same info twice, just worded differently?
Hadn't seen a picture of that class before. Rather an unlovely ship IMO.
Name of the class passed to new orleans ?
Vae victis indeed, that sound a bit harsh.
Extremely interesting channel, love it, thanks.
Hey Drach, can you consider doing a video on the time the Royal Navy lent the US a carrier in the pacific?
Yay, more Drach
Could you do a special or series of specials on the various US fleet problems and talk about what they involved and the lessons learned (or not learned, as the case may be)?
Also, could you add the submarine USS Flounder to the list of ships to review? The only reason I ask is because she has a silly name with plenty of potential for a thorough mocking.
He made an interesting video (longer than 2 hours) on Savo Island with World of Warship where he and others also talked about the various US fleet problems.
Also, if I recall correctly, he also talked about those in his own video on Savo Island (I haven't watched the others yet, so I cannot talk about those too)
Some of the lessons learnt are:
- firefighting "loops" should be "vertical" (= they can be broken in various points and still function)
- emergency (diesel) generators should be installed on ships
- move the floatplane facilities away from the central part of the hull, to the back
- modify the "general quarters drill" to match more the british navy one
And others problems that, if interested, I covered in my last video (on the battle of Savo Island)
Also there are some generic ones, like "don't underestimate the japanese" and "don't be too reliant on radar"
@@themodernwarfarehistorian825 I remember that video. I'll need to go rewatch it.
Also, I meant the lessons learned from the fleet problems, not Savo Island. He did a pretty great job in explaining those in his video on it.
Didn't the Astoria assist with the rescue operations when the USS Lexington was sunk, and provide cover at the Battle of the Coral Sea?
Could you do a five minute review of the secretary class Coast Guard Cutter’s that served in World War II.
Look how short that rear turret is, it must be cramped underneath
My father's ship the USS HELM was one of her escorts that dreadful night.
Wait a sec... is this a Catalina turning in behind a Val at 4:09...?
pretty sure about the cat, not so sure about the plane in the front...
make an video for the italian ww2 cruisers
I'm not sure if I've asked this but any plans to do modern/cold war vessels?
I would say nope
Sorry but he has said on a number of occasions he doesn't do cold war ships because much of it is still classified.
AFAIK up to 1950 or so - for later periods however, Drach contributes to the Bilge Pump podcasts. Also, maybe look up Dr Alexander Clarke's channel.
the-bilgepumps.simplecast.com/
ua-cam.com/channels/E2x09tU0GwAGiSbFPEhIwQ.html
Uncle Drach made the wise decision to stay in a time frame where there is no longer "secret" information making a true history a bit difficult. Also, he has said he has no interest in all the political complications that come with Cold War and post-Cold War...friction.
1950's on back that's where Drach stated his focus is.
Can you do a video of the New Mexico class of battleships?
3:14 Are those torpedo nets around the two Cruisers?
The more I watch this channel. The better I feel about not going into the navy.
I rather enjoyed my years in the Navy, but then, I served "between wars" - 1980 to 1986.
the "NASTY ASTY"
You missed a re-take at about 1:35, Drac.
"Heavy cruiser" due to 8 inch main battery guns and lots of flammables on board. Light cruiser due to bugger all armour. But a sad loss nonetheless. RIP.
Tnak.you.Drach.for.another.wonderful.video...I.was.wondering,when.you,make.a.review.of.a.ship.that.is.out.of.service,could.you.talk.about.her.post-career?..For.example,if.sunk.if.when.how.the.wreck.was.found,when.and.where.she.became.a.museum,etc.
Is your space bar broken? When you use a dot instead of a space, YT attempts to make a link out of it.
What's with the duplicate speech or repeated text?
Cannon class destroyer escort please.
You mean the super top secret time traveling stealth ship probably built by aliens? /s
I'm so early that the Asiatic Fleet is still in the Philippines.
(and there is still no pinned comment for Q&A, jeje)
Why was the Astoria class renamed after her sinking, but both The Yorktown and Lexington classes kept their names. Also did noone at the time time consider it disrespectful to the fallen (and whoever was in charge of the records) to remove the name of the ship.
I think it's because of how much of an embarrassing clusterfuck Savo Island was, whereas Lexington and Yorktown were both lost in a more "dignified" manner with Coral Sea being a strategic victory and Midway being one of the most famous and iconic battles of the war and a massive win for the US.
But yeah I find it really disrespectful too. Astoria put up a good fight and did good work prior to Savo, and even if she didn't changing the class name would still be unwarranted, imo.
Think part of the reason was to confuse the Japanese that they never sunk them in the first place. Second US Navy has a (understandable) habit of giving ships names previously used before. As for the Enterprise (which of all ships should have never been scrapped due to distinguished service during WW2 & Admiral Nimitz tried to save her from such a fate after the war - a big shame in retrospect) there have be two further aircraft carriers with such a name the CVN-65 (the first nuclear power aircraft carrier - only one in class built) & the new CVN-80 of the Gerald R. Ford class set to be operational in 2028 and not to leave out the prototype of the Space Shuttle that was only flown as a test bed glider (without engine power) & currently on display at the Smithsonian Museum in Virginia. A footnote to The Sorge comment US aircraft carriers since WW2 have (usually..) been named after famous battles, US Presidents or military leaders with exceptions USS Constellation, USS America and USS Enterprise as previously mentioned (off the top of my head). Also the US did at one time have aircraft carriers named both Coral Sea & Midway (both Midway class aircraft carriers).
@@NesconProductions That's not true, the last USS Yorktown was a Ticonderoga class cruiser CG-48 which entered service in the 80s and is now retired. Once a ship has been stricken from the List its name is eligible for use even if the ship survives as a museum or whatever. Constellation is an example; the mid-1800s frigate still exists but the name has been used again.
Similar question could be asked of why a certain German Cruiser class wasn't renamed when the lead ship thereof was.
"Lutsow class" certainly is easier to pronounce & spell XD.
@@RCAvhstape Err.. you are correct & should have remembered about the Tico. class USS Yorktown & yes I've been on the USS Constellation when visited Baltimore :-P. Cruisers (think being largest warships in the US Navy) also named for famous battles (such as the USS Antietam both so named as an aircraft carrier & crusier). The Constellation is another example of aircraft carriers not being named after a US President or famous battle. Know the USS Jimmy Carter also an exception (being a submarine) so named for his prior service on one. Again (off the top of my head) could have added the name of the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower & Nimitz to aircraft carriers not named after famous battles or US Presidents. I'll have some humble pie for breakfast, cheers & a thumbs up.
Good story on USS Astoria, but the confusion over if USS New Orleans was class leader or not will become immense when you research the five-minute guide for the Colorado-class battleships. These are going to confuse you to no end when you read that USS Maryland, the second ship in the class of superdreadnoughts, was laid down AND commissioned a full two years before the class leader (Maryland in 1917 and 1921 vs Colorado in 1919 and 1923).
American surface combatants never followed the class and naming structure of contemporary navies going back to the Illinois-class predreadnoughts in the 1890s--USN battleships and cruisers often were laid down and commissioned out of order. This was because Congressional authorization set the names ahead of time, as battleships by custom were named after states and gun cruisers were named after cities (typically American, but the odd Australian capital city thrown in to boot after the loss of Canberra off Savo Island).
However, assignment of warship construction to various American shipyards of course was dictated by slipway or other launching method availability, so American warships were often built "out of order" for the first half of the 20th century.
There were a few ships that were in Ppearl Harbor on December 7th and Managed to stay afloat and make it back to the west coast, some barely... Would you tell their histories?
He’s done a series on the ships that were recovered from Pearl. It’s called “The Salvage of Pearl Harbour”
Why not give the name New Orleans to the first completed ship?
Hey, what happened to video about uss franklin? Did you delete it?
Drach did NOT repete himself, YOUR ears flapped !!!!
At this point "5 minute guide" should be renamed to "6 minute guide" with the recent videos mostly reaching 6 minutes lmao
30 seconds of noise before the video starts.
It does have the caveat (more or less)
They're Washington Naval Treaty minutes
We have official documentation that no video on this channel is above the 5 minute regulation of the Drach Washington Naval Video Treaty
Drach, have you done a review of the design of this class? No disrespect intended to the valiant crews of Astoria, San Francisco, etc., but I always thought they were a poor design for a warship in WWII. They seem really top heavy and so much superstructure could only have given enemy gunners a "broad side of a barn"-sized target to aim at. I know all that space dedicated to the scout planes caused major problems with fire-fighting during the Guadalcanal engagements, but the entire class just seemed like an evolutionary dead end.
Keep in mind that the Astoria/New Orleans class is the end of a design evolution that proceeded through the Pensacola, Northampton, and Portland class cruisers. The New Orleans would end up ore compact and better protected than the three preceding classes, but all were originally "light" cruisers until the London Naval Treaty made anything with 8" guns a "heavy" cruiser. As it is, the entire series of classes is a graphic illustration of the fact that a cruiser with 8" guns on 10,000 tons is going to suffer from some compromises.
I'm sorry if i don't understand, but ¿why is know like the New Orleans class?
Hey, you didn’t go over the armament
That's what the class guide video is for :)
He's covered it in depth in the New Orleans class and New Orleans (CA-32) videos.
Pinned post for Q&A?
I don't see it. I figured I was just dumb. Maybe were both dumb!
This class is high on my list of FUGLY ships. Something about the mid to aft superstructure is off putting. At least there aren't any casemate guns.
Looks alright to me... though compared to the horrors of French warship design... anything would XD.
@@jimtaylor294 Hon Hon Hon do you not like french six stacker ships they're the best eyesores of the seven seas...
I was extremely mortified looking through the french section of Jane's WWI lol..
USS Ross
I can't be the only one who originally read the name as "USS Artoria" right?
Ditto; albeit that I saw "HMS" for a moment too XD.
(the thumbnail however making it obvious that she was a USN vessel)
WHERE THE HOVERCRAFT AT?
Ah yes; Hovercraft & Ekranoplans'... maybe some day he'll 5MG those too.
Ouch. Re-naming a class because the lead ship got turned into flaming swiss cheese...
I've always thought this was the nest looking class of heavy cruisers ever made
Barista, refill please.
Insert "the last time i was this early" comment here....
Last time I was this early there were no "insert last time I was this early" comments :D
And let’s not forget those unoriginal “first” and “when the world needed him the most” comments.
Hoomans on the net eh. . .
Re
170th
You repeated one line twice there, Drach,
8 views, 80 likes :O