Taranis QX7S -- Better than the X7 but...
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2017
- The FrSky Taranis QX7S is definitely a better radio than the QX7 but for some folk it isn't better value. Watch the review to find out why.
Disclosure: this radio was provided for review purposes by GearBest.com.
Product link: goo.gl/nhtDDi
Pros:
- based on the well-proven QX7
- looks much smarter
- better positioning of front-panel switches
- hall effect sticks
- cat's-bum stick ends
- comes with a 2000mAH battery
- comes with an excellent protective carrying case
- comes with excellent stick-protectors
- excellent build-quality
Cons:
- battery charging setup is stupid
- as with the QX7, neck-strap setup is clumsy
- quite a bit pricier than the QX7
Summary:
If you want/need the extra features that the 'S' version offers then this is a fantastic radio -- in fact, if you don't need/want sliders, I'd opt for this radio over the X9D because it probably represents better value.
Definitely a good radio! - Наука та технологія
Thanks Bruce
I must say I am very happy with your video presentation I hate the reviewers that just review and you have to wait for the part 2.....
Great job love this format keep it up
Thank you so much Bruce :)
I think you will have much more to say with their latest X10!
Looking forward to your review about it, i hope soon!
Have a great weekend and happy flying!
P.S.: Nice editing at the beginning of your video ;)
Bruce, the delayed on off switch is a blessing in disguise and if you have ever witnessed someone trimming a 3 meter Imac model with two clicks of up and one click of "OFF" you will get what I mean. The inconvenience is so minimal with that two or three second wait compared to seeing your model taking a full dirt nap or pull to trash bag as its often referred too. If you don't have the balance arm mounted the on off switch is very open and accessible. You do not want fingers blindly feeling for the trim switch and finding the holy shit button instead.
I was thinking the same! Really like that feature! Much harder to accidentally switch it on (or off), great safety feature, whether on the bench or in the field.
Same, I really like it on mine. I wasn't even aware the "normal" one didn't do it!
I think they all have the delay for going off. This one has it for going on, as well. I didn't think that accidentally turning the tx ON was much of a concern? However, it is an opentx firmware feature, so you could probably add or lose the feature, by simply (!?:) changing a #define and compiling up your own firmware image. Well, easy on linux anyway.
p.s. the change might be opentx version/build specific.. the last Q X7 I bought didn't have delayed start, but the more recent Q X7S purchase did - it came with a newer build of opentx.. 2.2v0006 vs 2.2v0010.
Interesting. One of the first things I did on mine was update the firmware, and when I did, that went away, so it turns on instantly like a "normal" one. I do prefer not having to hold it to turn it on though.
accidentally turning on: Can it drain the battery or does it have a timeout?
The new regular x7 has the same frame . Everything the same without the hall gimbas. I threw hall gimbals in and cat bum sticks. In my case I was far better off getting the S version. In either case I'm really happy with the set up. I'm used to a worn out Devo 7 controller. Definitely have to learn this transmitter being new and precise. Love the channel! Thanks for all of your help and support
Another great video. I just bought a standard QX7 and am wondering if there is a battery available with the charge lead already attached? Thanks
Hi Bruce, i wonder if the hold to power on is to help avoid the issue with the x7 in that putting pressure on the lanyard hook when its on could activate the switch. (Ive had mine turn on in my bag before)
I just bought the QX7S and I love the Gimbals. I am coming from a Flysky FS-I6 and I am a pincher. I can fly alot better with this radio right out of the box. I really love the gimbals and the fat stick ends on them. The bigger ends are better for pinchers like me because it helps me control Throttle and Pitch better without stretching too much. This is not really a problem for thumbers. As a Pincher I think the stick ends are a nice upgrade. But the feel of the gimbals is really what really makes this radio great. To get these gimbals in an X9D you need to buy the Special Edition or install them yourself. As a pincher I use the neckstrap and I think the bracket would actually stop the radio from accidentally turning on if it was in a bag and it got bumped. Because the bracket protects the switch. Mine came with the ratcheting throttle and I undid that when I opened it and tried to tighten up the throttle but its not as tight as the springs of the others. So that is a bit of a downside. I still really like it.
Good point about the oxide. Never thought of that. On paper the provided NiMH pack and individual AA NiMH batteries are basically the same capacity-wise.
Well, I bought the Q X7 just after it came out. After that I bought the M7 Gimbals and created a 2s 5000mAh LiPo for it (lasts for weeks, even months), and the costs where around 180... the only thing that's now really different are the angled switches and the wireless trainer thingy, both things 90% of all people don't use/care. So I after all it was cheaper and I have a much better battery ;) (the weight of the LiPo is perfect, the Radio now balance nice on the strap)
Having the balancing neck strap piece conveniently covering the conveniently delayed on/off button is pretty good on my book.
It prevents unwanted shutdowns when trying to trim a model or, if you have "friends" like me, it prevents pranks like turning off your radio when you're flying inverted 2 meters high.
Yeah, on my budget I'd have to go with the X7 as well and I think the X7 has all the features I would need. Thanks for the review and comparison and Happy Flying!
I´m trying to decide what radio to get as a lender! Are the length of the stick throw the same on the QX7 and QX7S?
Can you use this transmitter for toy grade drones and mid level like hubsan h501s?
Will crossfire system work with it, or do you have to mod it?
Dodgy neckstrap goings-on... My old Sprengbrook Variomodul set had a brilliant suspension system. It hung from a regular neckstrap that attached to two 90° sprung/retractable arms fitted to the bottom corners of the case, which left the radio hanging flat and balanced. It had a very long aerial. The Tx body was a wide 'tray' design without a tray, and was the most comfortable thermal and slope soaring radio I ever used.
I flew with pinched sticks that I'd extended to the full 2 1/2" (63mm) - they were VERY long - which gave fantastically fine control for gliders at extreme altitude. To get faster, coarser response, you just slid your grip down the stick shank, so it was like having modern rates and expo on a radio that didn't have such things. The ultra-fine rolling trim wheels were excellent, too.
Still got it, but I've only got 27 and 35 meg modules for it, so I can't fly with it any more. (Sob, sniff...)
Thank You for an honest review "Knowing Is Half The Battle" is it ? And I don't want to battle I wanna FLY!!! hehe .Great track ya made yourself their ,I could see after second spin around you was sticking to it way more Grats . That gave me the idea on how to make myself some tracks in fields ,I will walk & drag some 4-6' board/pipe .Tracing a path into the grass EUREKA!! I will have a race track to practice with .Thank You very much For your instructive vids Cheers
I like the hall sticks but , yes there too tight coming from a Devo 7 controller. I guess we will get use to it. Love the channel
Hi Bruce, Does it suffer from EzUHF interference like the original X9D?
On my Taranis I use a tray (and I'm what you call a pincher) so don't need the strap bracket but I still have it fitted. Why? Because when I first got the radio I inadvertently switched it off whilst flying when I missed the elevator trim. (I was used to a Multiplex3030 on 35Mhz).
So a hard to reach on/off switch ian't always a bad thing - especially for a clumsy oaf like me.
While you were showing the springs and levers my mind was already coming up with a possible solution to your problem.
When you put more tension on the spring with the adjuster, is there enough length to fit a slightly longer spring?
Maybe not a longer spring, but maybe a lower-rate spring. Just my theory. :-)
You can use a screw driver between spring coils to loosen up the spring tension on your sticks,it spreads the gap just a tad. I do it on mine and no ill effects. Sometimes you just have to think outside the box.
You didnt seemed to have any problem reaching and operating the switch with the balancing connector on?
As a fellow "thummer" who also prefers light sticks, I suggest going to your local "junk Chinese tool store", where I was able to find a whole assortment of tiny springs for a few bucks. Found a few that worked perfectly on my new Q7XS.
What's the deal with a Ni-MH 2000mAH 7.2 Volt battery anyway? Couldn't you get better capacity from a lipo pack? Confusing!
Hello, I have the QX7S Access 2019 apparatus, I have purchased a TBS crossfire - after opening the apparatus, I have a different scheme. I do not know what to do. Don't you have to solder it here, or something else?
Might replacing the springs with elastic bands help?
You may be able to achieve your desired stick feel by using a longer spring and winding the tensioner fully out there is probably 3-4MM of length available.
Always like you vids keep them comeing
Thanks for the review. I managed to break my poor old x9d plus so I'm now in the market for a replacement. Too bad this radio doesn't have sliders. I like pretty much everything else about it. For a little more dough, the x9d special edition would be a great upgrade if it weren't for all the wobbly antenna and range issues that so many people seem to be having. In the end I might just end up getting another x9d plus..
While there are some good reviews out there already, I would still be very interested to hear your comments on the X10.
Can't seem to get a good pinch with this tx,
I even switched it the stick ends.
It just doesn't feel right.
Is there a modual that supports d 8 mode for qx7 or does tje s support d8
Hey !! I had received mine but I am wondering with one things, maybe someone have the answer. On the inside mainboard as we can see on 17:00, there is a yellow transparent tape just above the battery connector, who cover a cms, on the place identified by D504... But on mine, i got no yellow tape, and no cms, it look like it have been unsoldered cause i can see some marks of an old cms overthere which have been remove... Someone who have knowledge in electronic can tell me what about this piece ? what the matter to have it or not ? that's really curious and strange for me... Nicolas
Is the battery connected to the USB port? So can’t i charge it via that or is it seperated? Ty in advance 😊
Is the wireless trainer builtin to the main motherboard, or is it a daughter card?
Would you still recommend it on 2021? Or is there something better?
Hey there Bruce a quick question if I may,I am thinking of pulling the trigger on a taranisx9dplus I was wondering if there is any chance that the receiver will pick up interfearence from a cdi ignition on a 20cc gas engine setup penny for it thoughts,are they interfearence free using the x8r receiver.
IIRC most 2.4 radios suffer interference in some form from gas engines and there systems, Frsky's ACCST protocol is pretty rock solid tho, but if your worried I personally would go with a RX8R, so you can then connect a 2nd RX similar to how Spektrum uses its satellites except your using 2 full range RX's
I was under the information that the x7s had more channels than the x7? am I wrong?
Is it possible to fly qx7plus controling with fingers, not thumbs? They all fly with their thumbs ..
my taranis qx7s has just been delivered to me......it has a charging port!!! to the right of the sd card flap, they have supplied a fly lead so no having to get the battery out, looks like they listened to you.....and mr steel :-)
I love the look at those sick ends... reminds me when my cats point their dipping end at me.....
I have the QX7 but I also have the hall effect up grade on stand by when the stock ones wear out.
Is it possible to operate fingers on this apparatus? Or just thumbs?
if your up for the mod try the flysky springs also look in to wireless charging for the remote I have been tossing around the idea.
Hi Bruce,
Another nice, down-to-Earth review.
One thing I noticed though...
The Tx aerial is soldered to the PCB & as they are prone to breakage,
I can't understand why they did not use the "normal" clip type. (Don't know the name of it.)
Anyway, just a thought.
&, As for reducing the spring tension...just use one the same length BUT use a smaller/finer gauge spring.
Keep up the good work.
Regards, L..
Across the ditch.
Wow Bruce...Artistic camera work now days uh!? Did you get an apprentice? Keep up the fantastic work!
Do you know if you can set up the run cam split to take pictures with a switch controller
There's some support for split control in the latest betaflight versions. Check that out. It's a fairly new feature, so not much covered in youtube reviews as yet.
My X7S has a charging port in the bottom - rev. 2 perhaps?
can the X7S do D8 internally like the X7?
Perhaps the beefy springs are used for longevity. A lighter spring may stretch over time, or, it’s just the cheapest spring of that size they could source:)
Bruce. Could you do a review that's less of a teardown and structural critique and more of a review of the functionality and usability? There are those of us that are new to Taranis and FrSky. I'd like to know how to work it and how to tune a craft to it. What goes in the compartment at the rear on the Taranis transmitters?
Quick video suggestion: Using sliders.
I'm a fixed wing pilot and have never used them so what exactly are the benefits?
Hi, LoC! I find sliders are excellent for big gliders with flaps, spoilers, air brakes, and variable wing camber. Switches are good for any on-off things, but it's so much better when you can vary settings with a slider.
Changing the aerofoil section needs ultra-fine adjustment, so if you mix several channels and assign things carefully you can still have regular ailerons and flaps (maybe on the throttle stick) along with optional airbrake interactivity (switched) that blends with the wing camber (slider) so that descending from a 'speck in the sky' thermal involves zero guesswork and gives much better control than 3-position switches.
Or not. Whatever. I just like sliders for certain variable functions. :-)
Does anyone know where I can get small jet engines.
How does the range compare to the X9D?
It is always safer to disconnect from the hardware before charging. It will probably be fine but charging voltages and currents can damage electronics if they are not protected from it.
not possible if you wanna fly on a simulator
Im going to buy a qx7 i might get the qx7s if it goes on sale on 11.11 we will c!!!??!!? I have never heard of 11.11! Did gearbest make it up?
Why cant they include a charge circuit :(
Its been about three or so years on mine with the hall effect gimbals and they are going south Time for a new transmitter ,, Sad I did the crossfire mod too so I wont be getting another one of these and doing that mod again for sure
I've got the QX7 myself. This looks a little better with the vinyl on the sides as mine is also blue and I do plan to upgrade to the M7 Hall Effect Gimbals at some point but other than that it doesn't really seem to offer much more. I removed the battery tray from mine and also have that same Taranis battery but yeah it has the same issue of having to remove it from that balance port to charge it. As for charging I simply soldered a 2S balance connector to a XT60 connector and I can now charge it on my 4 button charger.
I'm a thumber myself but still use the neck strap for that extra security incase I drop it but I don't really have any issues with the balance bar placement, I can press the button fine like that though as you probably know the standard model doesn't require you to hold the button in to start but does to power it off which is nice as you can't accidentally turn your radio off in flight.
I think they should of added a bit more to the S model though for the extra money such as a longer range aerial maybe.
I just noticed at the end of that video, You tilt your body in the turns with the quad. I know I have done that playing video games, now I will have to have some one watch me fly to see if I do it while flying fpv.
was it really necessary to tease us living in the upper half of the planet by showing your beautiful sunshine from down under??? Here in good old Germany we are waiting for the rain and fog to disappear and for the wind to calm down ... temperatures approaching zero deg C the coming weekend ... :-( ... while being rather jealous of your weather, I like your clear explanations and objective videos and reviews.
Poland the same. Have to wait for spring. Fingers are freezing, hard to fly😟
Same here in the UK where the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
You realise you're on the bottom of the planet?
The maps just drawn wrong.
(33deg C today and will remain around that for the next 5 days or so - I wish we had your 0C)
Friedrich Mandel lots of snow here in BC
Why not just a 5.5mm charge plug in the side. For lipo maybe not but standard they are using NiMh packs.
If I buy one I would mod this somewhere in the case.
Those connector sometimes break contacts to the main wire when plugged in.
The springs can be easily fixed. I did it with my X9D hall gimbals. Just stretch the springs. Be careful of course. Stretch them just far enough that they no longer have a preload. Then you can use the adjuster to make them very soft as they cross center.
If you mount a fpv screen to your tx - like i do, you will find that you need to fit the neck strap balance bracket around the other way - so that it is above the speaker - not above the on/off switch, that is the only way i can get it to balance with my 7" fpv screen attached. As for the delayed push to turn it on - i can only wish that my X7 had that, i am forever accidentally turning my tx on when i do not mean to - especially if you put it in a bag or back pack. So that is a welcome new feature in my view.
Hey Bruce,
you can try to find springs with a lower spring rate. Then you'll get lower forces and the sticks will still center. Just an idea.. Bye, Sven
I tried but my hands are too small to reach all corners without sliding ...
I like the leaning left and right as the quad turns left and right Bruce! Does that make you go faster?! 🤣
It's called body-English... comes from my MotoX days :-)
RCModelReviews I'm not sure if
You're serious or not..... Lol
aloft hobbies do a barrel plug adaptor which fits into the case for easy recharging of battery
do share a link
Wanna say on all videos ever seen yours are the brightest.
LOL!!! I was mindboggled about the charger! was like WTF does it plug into?
What would you use sliders for? Also what do you people use dials for?
ah i see thanks
I use one dial as a volume control. It's nice to be able to turn Amber down.
That hair on the corner of the LCD is driving my OCD nuts!!
What do you think about those expensive Flysky radios ?
(Not frsky) :)
I use the Turnigy Evolution and swear by it, (as does UAVFutures). It uses the Flysky protocol, it's well made, the range is not a lot less than the Taranis, it's tiny and so easy to carry and best of all it's currently £30 with an Rx from HK!
patrickcol yeah,and it has really good latency.
As DroneMesh shown it is almost same to fs-i6
patrickcol uavfutures actually has gone back to the taranis recently!
From my experience. Don’t waste your money on flysky. Not worth it. Your gonna lose birds. Just get yourself a x7 for 90$
pls do a video pot repairof radio gimbals
you just buy the new hall sensor gimbals, shouldnt have to replace those for a long long time
A major design problem, easy to fix! I found hard way yesterday! The coin battery inside is totally exposed. When I was removing the back of my radio accidentally dropped the screw in the battery bay and went inside rolling over the circuit board. Apparently touched the back of the battery (+) and shorted. The replacement board is $60! And I lost all my models because I didn’t back up on SD card.
I so wanted to see you review the Taranis X10 , i would love to buy the X10 but they have sent it for review to only mini quad pilots , that is just so silly to send a radio like that to someone who wont review it in the way i want to see it tested .......
x7s or xd9+?
The on button is that way cause issues on X7 where if you had balance peace bolted on for your neck strap.. and pushed a little on it it would turn on the radio :D ( the plastic would bend enough to push the button ) resulting in you having your radio in bag turned on whole time and arriving with flat radio... than cursing whole way home... I know its oddly specific, cause that what happened to me :D
Awesome intro :)
Bruce you cannot charge the battery in parallel with the transmitter connected if the transmitter has a soft power switch. Your charger (micro controller version) can not measure the battery (internal resistance) correctly. The delta peak time will be wrong and will shut off to soon or, in the worst case, to late. A good transmitter has a build in charging circuit that can handle Ni-MH and Lithium. Just stick the DC barrel jack of the plug pack in the transmitter, the plug pack in your wall outlet and it will charge.
I charged my selfmade NIMH pack with paralell plug for quite eleven month now without any downside. Same technic I have on my Devo., This switch cuts
the connection between battery and board. BTW , in the beginning of this year
Aloft Hobbys (US dealer) ran several test on this and agreed.
Solution to overstiff springs would be if they could supply a set of identical springs with finer gauge wire.
The geometry would remain the same, yet give a lighter touch and still home properly.
like a new car i think a brake in period is all that is needed
Either finer wire or larger diameter coils on the spring. Either should be easy to get
Bruce: I picked up a QX7S today and it looks like they've added a charge port!
Nice video
I don't know about silicone wire in crimped connections, the insulation crimp can cut through the soft insulation. The insulation crimp holds better with PVC or teflon insulation than with silicone. Many times I have seen the insulation crimp on the terminal cut through the insulation over time leaving the conductor crimp unsupported which is why I have stopped using silicone wire in servo extensions. I have the DuPont/Berg HT-95 (female) and HT-102 (male) official hand tools for crimping mini-pv terminals (which is what servo terminals actually are) not generic crimpers so it's not the crimps that are the problem.
Personally I've found applying a thumb to a cats bum offers very little control and almost instant full acceleration.
You need to be smoother, think juicy.
I might be better with a neck strap.
Tell my thumbs... they shake like hell :-)
I can't help thinking someone should be able to fit your thumbs with accelerometers and filter out the normal shake frequency, debounced pinkies technology. Either that or replace the gimbals with glass domes that detect the touch with light, just a dimple for centre.
Single stick transmitter Bruce? You should be able to make one of those?
This radio is closer but still not enough for me to switch from my Hitec Aurora 9.
Exactly. I was thinking of trading in my Aurora 9 but not any more. 8 switches and 2 sliders make it damn useful
11:06 no neck strap for me
I’ve ordered one
Nice intro:)
Better and cheaper to buy the X7 with a set of M9 gimbals and fit them yourself.
Dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you guys are stoned like me atm then you can watch all the latest series on InstaFlixxer. Have been binge watching with my brother for the last couple of months xD
@Alec Anson Yup, been watching on instaflixxer for years myself =)
For $36 you can add the hall effect gimbals to a QX 7.
Nice i will buy this one chur
Why can't they make these things with a USB charge lead
poor old FrSky, they can't win. One of the modifications done to the early Taranis was heavier Futaba gimbal springs. Agree if they include a rechargable battery in a newly created model then at least include a charge socket.
I really want this radio. But they don't make it in pink anymore. Such a bummer.
Spray paint or hydrodipping will do the trick (if done properly).
I will not buy anymore on Gearbest. I bought batteries from them since 19. November, I have not received till yet. At the same day, I make 2 orders, both came with missing items.
The whole charging bit is crazy! Why can't Taranis design a plug in a charger like every other device ever made?
You would also need to drill a hole in the case and fit a charge jack.....easy pezy
Can I mention I’m giving one of these away right now? :-)
DroneRacer101 you just did! 😁
MM75 oh yea
you spoilt the surprise now lol
DroneRacer101 I'll take one thanks
Everyone please reply: Pinch or thumb?? What do you do?
Isaac Lyons I'm a pincher
Darren Reeves, I use thumbs
Thumber
The Mr Steele pinch-thumber.
Mike Jackson, same here!
Yeah about Gearbest. I got a Florion 250 with fpv and a LCD. The LCD was broke out of the box and the props we're all one color and one direction. They would not replace the LCD and I had to go hobby shop to get props. I will never buy from them again