Dead Air #28: The Regime, 3 Body Problem, The Truth vs. Alex Jones, Quiet on Set, Ruby Franke
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- This week we discuss 3 Body Problem, The Regime, Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV, The Truth vs. Alex Jones, Ruby Franke: From Momfluencer to Felon, Mary Kay Letourneau: Notes on a Scandal, and more.
Intro 00:00
Move update 01:30
Tiny House Hunting 13:52
Mary Kay Letourneau: Notes on a Scandal 28:48
Ruby Franke: From Momfluencer to Felon 33:57
Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV 47:32
3 Body Problem 57:25
The Truth vs. Alex Jones 01:16:56
The Regime 01:25:20
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If you want to really go down an Alex Jones rabbit hole, there's a podcast called Knowledge Fight that debunks everything about him.
no... dont like rabbit holes about idiots.
"Debunk" is a bad term. Dude is definitely mentally ill. You don't debunk schizophrenic people. Maybe you mean something like, debunk the stuff his hardcore followers believe. Presumably some of them are otherwise sane persons who don't need institutional assistance.
What really happened was that, at a young age, a mentally ill Alex Jones realized stuff like Bill Clinton was a known adulterer and kiddy diddler, before he ever became President. Hitchens was also talking about this decades before Epstein Island became public knowledge, for example. That realization pushed a mentally ill Alex Jones over the edge. It's like Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory. Dude is 100% absolutely mentally ill. He also saw something he wasn't meant to see. There's no way to disentangle those issues. And saying Alex Jones is "debunked" also unintentionally says things like Bill Clinton is innocent. That's a bad situation to be in.
There's also been this trend in progressive circles to deny mental illness to people they don't like. Because they hold mental illness as a status symbol. So for instance there was a Breadtuber wannabe who went on a whole crusade to "prove" that Elon Musk was faking autism. Which. Weird hill to die on. Especially because to do it, he needed to do things like quote Elon Musk's abusive father. I'll just let that one speak for itself.
Alex Jones is mentally ill and deserves treatment. And, also, his illness has resulted in a massive amount of damage to other people. These aren't contradictory.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Regarding tiny homes and climbing ladders to go to sleep, almost most of my childhood to save space we slept in small spaces (we called them galleries) above our study rooms. So we had to climb 2m/6ft ladders every time we went to sleep. As with any repetitious activity sometimes you will slip. Once I fell from the top on my back, and hit my head hard. I tried calling for help but I couldn't speak due to concussion. After 5min of lying there everything was ok. After that I was super careful
wow that sounds like you grew up in a strange place. Would like to know more about it.
It's an old joke where I live that you should get bunk beds for the kids so you can hear the thump when they fall out of the bed.
It's not a good joke. but... yeah...
'There were 150 of us living in a shoebox in the middle of the road...'
Luxury
On The Regime: I happened to have watched a documentary about Rasputin recently, courtesy of my partner [Must admit, she got me hooked on the subject of cultleaders ever since you guys turned us on to the "twin flames" dumpster fire a few months back]. As a result, to me The Regime feels like a remix/riff on that whole Rasputin jam. Her husband"s name is Nicky even. Tbh, I dont want to be spoiled on the subtext, so I can't confirm yet and I didn't even watch all of your discussion on it because I'm only on ep 3, and also my partner hadn't had the chance to start it yet.
Even if my inking is correct, I'm very electrified by the fact that it stil doesn't seem to focus on one particular set of historical figures or a specific political dynamic...makes me really just want to talk and theorize a lot about the influences that went into it. It's fill of anachronisms and pastiche, and I find that delightful. It's definitely an amazing springboard for discussion through and through! Love that you guys are grappling with it too.
In any case, if you guys mentioned the Rasputin connection I apologize for ranting about it without hearing you out for fear of spoilers. But who knows, could be you'll find this angle novel or interesting. Cheers.
HBO stands for Home Box Office
What always pissed me off about the whole Mary Kay Letourneau thing was the blatant sexism of it all, bc you know damn well if the genders were reversed they would've thrown the book at him, and he'd still be in jail.
It reminds me of the South Park episode where Kyle's baby brother Ike is sleeping with his kindergarten teacher and when Kyle goes to the police about it all male cops are like, oh nice... 😂
I appreciate your talking heads introduction. Tar Rockall Schmidt.
Not to be an apologist, but in the book the nanowire plan made total sense. I agree that they failed to transfer the specifics (and necessity) of the plan to the tv series. The book has these amazing big ideas that kinda fall flat because they’re rushed and because it’s apparently not allowed to explain science anymore in popular media.
Disagree, because I think the book plot is dumb to the core. I love stuff like the look at Maoist China don't get me wrong. But for instance. Scientists don't like a scientific result so they start commuting suicide? That's stupid. Einstein didn't like quantum mechanics. He didn't kiss a pistol because of it. The whole plot goes like that. Ideas that only sound smart to people who turned their brain off and aren't actually thinking about it critically.
@@KevinJDildonik
After listening through the book series and seeing the Netflix show. I did do a bit of a 180 on that thing. While it is implied that it was the erratic experimental results that got them to self-terminate. There's a bit more to it. The people who were driven to suicide was actively targeted by ETO and the Trisolarans. They got the VR helmets. They got the whole thing about we won't be able to do anything about the coming apocalypse. And probably some whacky hallucinations and stuff as well. Breaking the mind from all fronts.
Most of the scientists in the book and show are just fine. They note that things go a bit haywire, but they aren't emotionally devastated as the ones that get the full treatment.
I am genuinely concerned with the way you sound and I hope you one day never have any sort of respiratory issues/ allergies/ sinus issues or anything else in the like again. I love you guys and wish you both the best together, thank you for giving me something to make my days better.
My allergy specialist told me that there is no such thing as dust allergy... What he called it was overly sensitive to small particles. For me i get all the typical hay fever symptoms except itchy eyes, and i don't test as being allergic to any pollen. Good thing is that standard over the shelf anti allergy medecine work fine. I was 45 when I developed this, had no issues before. I basically react badly but not seriously so to any small particles be it dust, sawdust, certain powders etc etc...
I guess it's a semantics thing. "Dust" is a meaningless term, it's about what's in the dust. I once heard that about 75% of what we call dust is alive. Spooky shit :)
@@jotade2098 Dust is a mixture of things hence why it's difficult to get a "proper" allergy test reading as positive. And yes dust can contain bacteria but 75% seems high. Indoors it's probably mostly dead cells, hairs, mite remains etc.
@@Dakhor not only bacteria is alive. polen, spores....
Yeah, I am also sensitive like that, but not allergic (according to all the tests). Thought it might be pollen allergy because of my symptoms and what I was doing at that time. But no, definitely not allergic to pollen. Just overly sensitive to lots of materials being in the air. Apparently. The finer materials, the worse it gets.
Another excellent episode
Love your hang out dynamic!
Great episode. I usually drift off into a daydream once we get on topic but the piece about polar bears and glycol kept me in the now.
I absolutely adore The Regime!
For sure when people have the living space for junk, they tend to just stockpile it instead of getting rid of it. Look in most people`s garages. Its broken furniture and old bikes and old boxes of clothes, and just stuff that they would have gotten rid of long ago, has it not been for the path of least resistance, which is to just pile it up for 15 years and then get rid if it when they move.
Honestly as a book fan of 3BP I enjoyed the hell out of it, its a very accessible intro into a genuinely amazing story that I can use to introduce friends to if they're interested but may be put off by the drier books, basically a companion piece. But I do concede they skipped big parts of the science that helps highlight why the more fantastical elements are as cool as they are conceptually, making them feel like cheap spectacles. That does irk me, especially when they filled it with interpersonal drama instead.
But my biggest gripe honestly is they compacted the characters too much, the books give you a sense of collective effort, where everyone brings something to the table, no one single person is solely responsible for coming up with solutions. Some more so than others, sure. But here they made it to be a group of 6 or so who all happen to be buddies. So instead of it feeling like humanity vs trisolaris, it felt like peer-reviewed avengers. That and the China bad ethos riddled through it, for an adaptation of a Chinese story, it just felt slimey.
When you talk about the house you currently live in, I picture the house from Fight Club...
I’d love to hear how you guys met one day
Jeez man, I remember something similar happening in my high school where this drop-dead gorgeous woman got hired as an assistant for EC students (disabled kids) and she allegedly got caught in the act with a 17 year old autistic girl 😐
I don't have Netflix and I'm still waiting for a torrent to pop up, but I've JUST finished reading The Three-Body Problem book (the first in the trilogy.) I definitely recommend it, even if you're not into hard science - it's actually very easily digestible, but stuffed with extremely tantalizing science concepts and ideas. Honestly, I would say it "blew my tits clean off."
(Also, please forgive me for mentioning it, but all the points you bring up for the wire + boat scene are heavily explored in the book, and everything that you can think of as jeopardizing the hard drive is carefully rationalized.) Alls I'm just trying to say, the book is pretty great 🤷♀️
The books explain everything better that was mentioned here. It's a shame that TV writers don't trust people enough to spend some more time on the actual important elements of the plot. Why make the show if you don't care about the science stuff?
That said, I think the show is fine. But it could be a lot better.
Totally agreed. Several big ideas that I had never encountered before in SF (and I read a lot of SF).
The first season takes a few parts from book two, maybe you want to read that one too before you watch the series.
There were some torrents available but last I checked they'd been taken down
David goes to Hollywood 😂
What a greap couple....
Almost as great as....
Toilet-chef podcast!!!
I am on the defending side of the 3 Body Problem show. Ok. the casting of leading scientist lady does seem to be more about marketability than real life scientists. But in all, I do enjoy it. Though, it is strange that she's elated in one scene where she gets to continue to work on the Nanowire with the government. And in the very next scene she's all conspiratorial about working with the government to use the nanowire.
And it's suggested that the nano-wire is kind of friction-less (how do you hold on to the ends of a frictionless wire? dunno) So I had no real problem with how it sliced through the ship like an egg slicer without the ship loosing any of its momentum until it runs ashore. It's set up in the demonstration event where they slize up the cube thing.
Will those remarks persuade anyone? probably not.
I mean you hold onto it even if it's frictionless cutting surface by making one contiguous piece that you've only made nano thin on the middle.
To my knowledge Zubak is a croatian surname or at least form that area
Actually it’s pretty widespread among most caves and forests globally, along with its evolution Golbat.
3 body problem is terrible.
They let you live in America if you don’t know what HBO stands for?
Home Box Office
HBO stands for Home Box Office. Because it was a additional channel you had to pay for and the programs and TV movies had a higher budget than normal cable programs
3BP was OK, but I agree a lot. A lot of interpersonal drama, boring characters, silly take on a lot of science stuff. A lot of fairly midwit types who were supposed to be geniuses. If it gets better I'll maybe get enthusiastic, if it doesn't improve I may not even finish it.
The characters in 3 body ate one dimensional and some asian lady is the best character? Sounds pretty faithful to the book
I just don't buy the fundamental premise at the core of Three-Body Problem.
You mean the physics problem or the dark forest or just aliens being right there of all places?
@@jimmyjojoshabadoojr dark forest
Car uterus lol
I *could* move into a tiny house. Or I could keep my funko pop collection and die happy.
"My wife is a complicated muslim" (most American ever)
This episode was infuriating, thanks
Georg alluding to being middle class when he deliberately chooses to live in abject squalor.
I'll bet he hasn't even got a panini press.
Man. I just check this out cause I wanted to hear georg opinion on quiet on set.
But this girl is the only one talking about it and she sounds like she doesn’t give a shit and georg didn’t even watch it.
They are so awkward together. It was difficult to listen to.
This girl sucks
Being allergic to dust sounds like a profoundly American thing. No one else on the planet is allergic to dust. Dust ?dust dust? dust dust ?
Its actually really common among Asthmatic's to be allergic. I only learned about it through my doctor when I described it and found its really common among asthma sufferers. I should add i'm from the UK and live in Sweden, and my symptoms flared up in both places at varying degrees. Not saying thats her deal, but more to say its more common than you'd think especially outside of the US :)
@@drunkenhowler22 fair enough, having grown up in a grubby house I’m probably just showing my biases
@@jacksonvega7751 If it helps a lot of the apartments I lived in were relatively grubby :P
Dumb and dumber, dumbed down the story of three body.
For god's sake, get your wife some media training.
WTF are you talking about? I've checked some of your other comments, you seem to have a somewhat creepy obsession with her.
YOU get some media training moron