In march i will have been married to my husband for 28 yrs. i am 51 and a woman of God. lets not act everything princella said was incorrect. I wish these two woman would have spoken more realistic and balanced. sometimes a husband is not the visionary. No two people are the same! So no two marriages will be the same. There will be constant adjustments and adaptions. Because both people are human and imperfect. Ask God to help you choose. And even then….. it will never be perfect. Trusting God thee entire time!
My sentiments exactly.. everything princella said was not all wrong. Some things were extreme but she did come with some cold hard facts! I wish our elder women would be more balanced In their advice & knowledge they pass down.. a lot of what they’re saying still doesn’t aid in the resolution of why so many black women feel deeply neglected in these marriages pushing them to the edge of divorce. I would much rather them share more insight on how we can bridge that huge disconnect rather than act as if it’s not truly there.
@@iSweetnSimpleolder women come from a different rime where they were taught that having a piece of man is better than not having a man at all. LITERALLY. Its a sad situation. They are predominantly male centered and largely religious. They have been thoroughly brainwashed & indoctrinated to worship males.
Why are men asking women to surrender their whole life, devoted love, earning potential, decision making, leadership, her body (directly impacting her health), time (which is her life), just to name a few... and they don't want to share resources??? I'm curious what's behind this because you can't put a price on what you're asking for. The type of woman mature enough to make this committment deserves financial security in a monogamous, loving marriage.
Just because that’s what the woman think she’s deserve doesn’t mean that’s what the male is capable or willing to give. That is what Princella is trying to get women to understand, but many women want to live in delusion. Even though they can see how men are behaving. Only a small minority of women will get to live that fairytale dream life.
Exactly!! It goes to show the hatred and dislike for women. We were never appreciated by men remember we couldn't even have a credit card until 1974. We had to start a women's right to have rights and these women want to overlook that. It's the lack of knowledge for me
All men aren’t asking for women to do all these things. Many men want partnership and would support their wives’ careers (as opposed to asking them to give up all the things you describe); pregnancy and postpartum are exceptions where a man should be able to provide (or the couple can establish an emergency savings fund). The idea of a wife never working outside the home sounds like a lifetime of adult financial dependency. On the flip side, there are men paying all the bills, doing kid drop offs, handling laundry and tackling other household items. Money is not everything, but the idea of paying every single bill for an adult for a lifetime is not necessarily attractive for most men. I wouldn’t want a woman to be responsible for cooking or ordering every meal I ate; I personally would feel like I was a burden to my wife. All this to say, I see why a lot of men are opting out of marriage and kids …
Funny because women have no problem asking men to surrender their lives to a woman 😂 😂 women act like they don’t understand nor care what a man has to sacrifice. The me me me me attitude is disgusting as fuck.
These women and Princella are coming from two different perspectives. One is spiritual ( religious) and the other is biological. You cannot compare the two. If the premises of marriage is “traditional” then men and women are not sleeping around before marriage. Now we know this audience is not that. Most of the men want trad wives but aren’t trad men so the whole discussion is mute.
Princella is coming from a place of unaccountabilty and hurt. Her delusional thinking offers no solution but only provides confusion and a space for her to babble.
Stay single mate. No man is going to honor such a worldly mindset long-term. You want it one way thus you will always find an issue with righteousness. Biology and spirituality definitely overlap. You need a man and woman to reach higher alignment both biological and spiritually.
@@steveanderson5504that was not honorable which is why in the nt it prevents males from becoming church leaders if they have more than one wife Not much of a flex 😂
If people want to have sex... they should get married (whole, healed, and wisely counseled)...If they DO NOT want to have sex and will NOT masturbate nor watch porn then they should absolutely stay single. It's okay to Healthily single. #My2Cents
@meekbeing Now you know these people are lying to themselves with that. Unless you are a hermit relationship with opposite sex is needed just my opinion
One of the issues with the commentary of SB and some older marriwd women is the one sided loyalty and commitment. For example, she mentioned how a man being disrespected will divorce you. But later said when a man goes crazy on you or geew up in chaos and is chaotic you are to love him through it. No divorces, and you understand this is how he grew up, and you learn how to love him through it etc. Why couldnt he learn to love a disrespectful woman? Maybe thats how she was raised? Men live hearing women tell other women all the stuff they should accept and ride through with men but the tolerance is thin vice versa. Sorry thats not commitment thats a set up for women to be indentured into onesifed unhealthy marriages thinking thats her "duty"
lastnamefirst9423 I agree. On this show though, there have been a few married men who have said that they wouldn't leaving their wives wasn't an option and one said his wife could be very disrespectful (I believe he said they were at odds the day they were on or shortly before). And several married women on the show said that they would leave under certain conditions. BUT you're right there is always an overwhelming amount of urging for women to put up with and placate a man. I say there has to be give and take on BOTH ends. No one should put up with things for a person who wouldn't do it for them. And of course there MUST be boundaries/limits. There should be some non nogotiabies.
@@ashleybrownprostylist Exactly!!!!! Once I saw SBU Live as the panelist, I already know she can't and won't tell men how to be good husbands because she tells men what they want to hear. The only thing she says that goes against their belief system is to abstain from sex.... even though she admits that she and her husband didn't wait and they had a child before they were married.
@@nenajay3174 They're not even trying to disprove Princella's point. They literally sitting here proving her point. They brought two women on - one who is a pick me and one who has SUFFERED in her marriage for many years... to advise women to get married. Although they labeled it as if these women are schooling men. I would think they would have interviewed a happily married woman who hasn't "suffered" in a relationship with a man like the lady on the right. Then she goes on to say she was molested by a man at 9 and sexually assaulted as a teen. I mean she was basically supporting Princella's argument with everything she uttered. I was listening like 🤦♀
@1:37:00 I have a friend who was put on bedrest at 3 months pregnant and had to stop working. You just never know what can happen. Budget and financial planning and establishing emergency fund is super important.
True and what if the man becomes disabled and can’t work. Is the wife educated enough to pick up all the finances or what’s the plan look like in unforeseen circumstances? Painting an ideal is not always reality. Life happens when you least expect it.
I think what is lacking with many (in regard to the fear of marriage) is the genuine love and like for one another. Too many are looking to see what they can get in a mate-what can they get out of it, how can the person help or make them better INSTEAD of looking to form a bond WITH the person they love the same way they love themselves.
She is correct!! When people ask why i’m not married, my answer now is, I didn’t know who I am, I needed healing from my Creator and then I could discern.
Unless you’re dating someone and they’re asking that Q, then that’s different. Yet I learned a long time ago that it’s really none of anyone’s business why you aren’t married. And you’re not obligated to answer their question. Ppl are single and unmarried for various reasons and that’s their business!
@@EastpointeI absolutely agree. I have been telling my story and being more transparent lately on this spiritual journey. When I answer the question it is honestly to put it out there how important it is to put God first and do the internal work. Actually getting married is easy and it’s definitely not any of their business lol But yes you are correct!
I’m a single 51 year old woman. Thank you for constantly bringing and dropping info. These dating streets are dangerous……but so is a person armed with lots of knowledge. You guys are doing it big!!!
I agree. Unfortunately, the old "fools" are the loudest and that's the "wisdom" that's been carried into this generation. It's part of the reason, I believe, that our generation is in such turmoil.
@coreythomas3633 clearly, you didn't understand what I said. I'm a "millennial" and the main reason MY generation is so messed up is because a lot of us didn't have wise elders to look up to and/or didn't listen to the few we did have.
Marriage is spiritual like she mentioned. If you don’t desire to serve, take up your cross and submit to Christ, die to yourself etc. then it will feel unnatural because it goes against our selfish and sinful nature which is to take care of ourselves, worry about no one else, “answer to” no one else, etc. it feels unnatural because the spirit and flesh are always waging war against one another.
You are spot on! Galatians 5:17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want.
Boo u Mixing up religious beliefs aka Jesus forced on people by males and spirituality aka honoring the Devine feminine creator aka living naturally with the planet. Many of u are delusional🤣
What people are grappling with is that some people were not meant to be married and some were not meant to have children. Society needs single people. But rather than embrace singleness. Rather than accepting singleness for others society changes what family and marriage means so singles can be in that box. It hurts the individuals, their communities, and the children.
Yes! And not all married couples want children. Society is too focused on what other people are doing then getting upset when it’s not what they would do
“It’s good to hear those kind of messages.” These men needed an ego boost after given a dose of truth by a female that was fed up. Instead of bringing on a Tony Gaskin or someone that will hold men to a higher standard they bring on the mothers who will soothe them. Very little of this addressed the culture as a whole. There was a lot of individual thinking and blame shifting. At least Priscilla was trying to find a solution for the systems not the individual. These conversations were not equal. Too many subjective statements.
@@adelestears8298 she not speaking facts and a lesbian that been molested and abuse. Should not be speaking on heterosexual relationship. WOMEN NEED MEN MORE SO THAN MEN NEED WOMEN. WHAT SOCIETY HAVE YA WOMEN BUILT.
Definitely pay attention to what is revealed during the dating phase. I don't agree with the panelist at 1:00:12 Some personality traits are very problematic & don't have to be accepted.🙅🏾
SBU, how does one get in contact with you Sis? Professionally of course. Very good show gentlemen. Impressed by the maturity of the show, and your selection of guests.
I'm 46 and single, lately I've chosen my career and caring for my mom to occupy my time until I find someone mature and ready. I have a couple that have been married 69 years, the first thing they both said that kept them together was church! Both being in the word and communicating. They gave me hope.
Yes she (Princella) mentioned how women in the church stayed married longer because that's what the church teaches women - to suffer and stay through abuse and mistreatment... which it does because I grew up in the church. A lot of the older men didn't go to church like that. And those who do/did go sometimes operated just like (or worse than) men of the world. That's why like Tim said and even SBU Live on this show - the men need to be Jesus centered and that means they study Jesus and follow what HE did and move in the way he moved - in service to their community. Jesus healed, fed people, cooked for his disciples, washed their feet, forgave, and the only issues he had was actually with the religious community.
@@filmadcamp1512this lady is suffering being a career woman and obviously would prefer help through this tough time in her life. You assuming who men are in bad faith are the reasons you don't deserve a good one. Marriage is duty. If you can't find a purpose in that shut up giving horrid advice
@@gentlemans.guidance365 What are you talking about? Which lady is suffering? What advice did I give? Which point triggered you? The part about men hardly going to church, the part about men in church moving worse than men in the world or the part about "being like Jesus"? Help me understand your point.
I’m from Kansas city, KS ! I have been watching y’all for 2 months now. I love what y’all are doing with this platform . Y’all have really helped me so much. Thank y’all and keep being great!
Interesting perspective so far at 21:05 minutes in. The woman's purpose is to "be the helpmate". I would like to think there is more to our existence and purpose than that. There are other stories in the Bible where women prove that observation. Not everyone gets married and some are widowed. Are we now saying they aren't living in their purpose or that their purpose no longer exists because the spouse died?
I think you are over-reaching. Women who are married must be help mates, but not everyone must be married to have a fulfilled life. Paul said, "I wish that all men were as I am (single and devoted only to God). But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." 1 Corinthians 7:1-16
@keptbygrace6221 I appreciate you take. However, the statement made implied something very different. This would be why the question was proposed and why I said there is evidence in other Bible stories that demonstrates as such.
@@angelahayden5647 I guess my confusion is people comment on videos like this with an attitude "Well, not everybody wants to be married. Men just want to use and abuse you. I'm single by choice. Etc..." and my point is, then this video is not for you. These guests are married ladies giving a certain perspective and are talking to a particular audience- women who are married or who want to be married. Not every message is for everybody.
They set this up to try their hardest to cover up the truth that Princella was telling. Didn’t work… I feel like these guys are two faced.. In the face of these women they give the appearance of respectful males knowing that these women hold the patriarchy.. their all ears to “prove their point”.. these women didn’t get cut off not one time. In front of Princella.. they’re quick to cut her off because it doesn’t go along with what they’re accustomed to. They were closed up and rude because they didn’t want to hear the truth. But before Princellas appearance on their show they told her they wanted her to “be able to talk” .. but then cut her off because they didn’t want to hear it. Why not learn something new?! This world is suppose to evolve and it won’t if we stay stuck in these dumb ass circles. Be open. They wouldn’t be trying to cover up the truth if it wasn’t true. Why are y’all so worried about what Princella talks about if it doesn’t apply to you? Y’all see what the hell going on.. lol. Stop playing 😂
Princella is a broken women who was abused by the women in her family and has never healed from her childhood traumas. She doesnt know what a successful marriage is because she never saw one with her parents or grandparents. I can find plenty of scientific studies to tell me what I want to hear but these are just studies. White men once said that blacks arent human based on scientific studies. Dont let this unhealed womans viewpoints lead you to believe she is sincere.
What sense does it make to bring in these old ladies in 2023 to try and teach young people to do things that clearly would never work today?? What sense does it make to continue to try to tell young women to essentially be slaves to their husband. So the husband will leave if the woman is disrespectful, but the woman should accept all the disrespect from this male? Idiocracy.
That's like asking what sense does it make to bring in Warren Buffet to give a talk on making money in 2023? Only a fool would say such a thing. ..But go off Kween.
@@Mr.Oct___ The idiocracy. That comparison doesn't work. You're talking about money, we're talking about human beings. Like hu?? 😂Like, can you grow a brain please? Even if you want to FORCE that comparison, it still DOESN'T work. Warren Buffett would never tell you the whole truth about how he actually makes money. So in most ways, you CAN'T even take what he says and do it for yourself because it would not be useful or beneficial. You have such a loser mindset 💀. Times have changed so epically, and to continue to tell women to continue to be slave (especially to a low-grade subpar species), is literally ridiculous & laughable at best. You are trying to force things to stay the same, that will NOT happen. Change will, has, and is already happening, Accept it. Losers Bringing fossils on here makes no sense, math ain't mathing. The change is already happening, birth rate continues to decline. The male loneliness epidemic continues to skyrocket & women still don't want you. Yet your species continues to refuse to get the message 🙄
@@DivineMotherGoddess888they were in bondage and act like it’s something to parade to this generation of women. Nobody wants to be a slave to a bunch of men that’s going to disrespect, abuse, cheat and even have outside children. They’re not special. They never were nor are they now. Women were dependent on them and no longer are and their ideology should’ve died soon as the divorce rate skyrocketed after women got bank accounts and jobs.
Another dope set🎉🎉🎉. I’m 41, no kids, was terribly afraid of marriage and having kid the majority of my adult life, for a multitude of reasons. At my big age, I’ve learned a lot from your esteemed guests and my therapist. Keep going ❤❤❤Kings .🎉🎉- Michigan
i can relate to this.. I was afraid of having children too. I still don't have any, but I'm married, and this is just like having a child, lol, unpredictable.
This was a great conversation! As a 34 yr old successfully married woman I agree to how both of these ladies are managing their marriages. God, husband, children in that order. ❤❤❤
@@kathrynbrockenberry3326if he says he loved his friends and considers them looser, I would stop dating this person - he is the average of the 5 people closest to him. If that’s what he thinks in his heart about his friends then so is he - a looser.
I see the way in which you guys are providing balance to this conversation. Last week I watched one of your older interviews with TG and you guys have done an excellent job staying within cultural conversations while also standing on purpose but following up with this interview after Priscilla and Tim’s debate. Well done guys - I’m new here and this is exciting to watch. I’m also being fed so much.
Fed what? How to be a pick me? Girl, you going to get ran through listening to these males. Both of these hosts are single males having premarital sex with “impressionable” women. You going learn. At least keep your legs closed until marriage and keep a secret bank account.
Marriage is not a partnership you give a man cancel your not his friend and Marriage is for legacy and he makes the last decision that the way Elohim made it
@@ga9100 It is absolutely important for a husband and wife to establish a deep friendship and connection because it comes in handy when it’s time to weather the storm. In as much as the husband makes the final decision, he still needs to run the discussion by his wife. That’s where the partnership comes in because both the husband and wife runs the household. That doesn’t take away the final decision making from the man. However, as the final decision maker, he should know an area of weakness where he can designate the wife to make the final decision in that instance because no one knows it all.
One must define girl trip…girl trip doesn’t mean city girls Most of my trips will be with my husband, some trips will be with other couples, and small amount of trips I go with my girls and my husband go with his friends I believe the concern and what’s important is your choice of friends. Are you friends acting city girls or uncle Luke and friends? Do your friends hold you accountable?
So they went and found some women that would agree with their ideas by using pieces of Priscilla‘s point to paint a picture of her message. I see there’s people put in place to eliminate the following of Priscilla‘s ideas.
Did you expect anything different I mean come on, anytime a man hears anything distressing about manhood and then the very first thing he has to do is try to prove that women suck, and everything is their fault and if women were better then maybe the men could be better too. There is no accountability for men whatsoever in this world I know women who have spent a decade in prison over some drugs and men who got probation for raping their step kids. That's how unaccountable men are about anything that they do in this world men won't even hold other men accountable....... And I know why that is it's because men basically are in bromances with all of the men in the world just trying to be accepted by these men, Mandy worried way more about what they do that work think about them than what their own wife and children do. Is there any surprise that men have a zero accountability in the world they've always had women to blame everything on. Started with the very first man God caught him with a piece of Apple in his mouth and the first thing out of did was blame it on eve. Adam is the one who was told never to eat the.... Go read your Bible Eve herself was never commanded by God not to eat that Apple. And if you got to read that Bible, God full-on blames Adam for what went down in the garden that day because after all Adam was told right from the start that the garden of Eden was Adam's responsibility he was responsible for the land and animals and everything in it........ But then again God screwed up so bad when he was making man....... The only thing he could do to attempt to fix him was make women.
@@lusekosivenathidiki3984So let me ask...if a woman who's been married for decades says she's fulfilled in her relationship w/ her hisband and her children...What exactly makes her a pickmeisha again?? And what exactly are u & Princella?? Asking for a friend of a friend.
There will be challenges in any relationship from husband to wife, child to parent, among siblings, among family members, in laws, boss to subordinate, etc, etc. it’s called living life.
Sometimes I think people make things harder than it has to be. "How can I guarantee that I won't ever be hurt?". Nonsense. The same way we can't guarantee that we'll never lose a job, never get sick, never make mistakes, etc. Life comes with ups and downs. 🤷🏾♀️
Being married 20-30 years doesn't entitle anyone to be seen as an authority on marriage. It MAY make someone an authority on their own marriage, but that's about it. Being unable to impart TRUTH regarding the real life struggles & sacrifices women are expected to accept to stay married is why these 50+ women lack credibility for me.
Exactly because very few of them ever tell how they had to sacrifice their dignity and self respect to stay married..I lived with my grandparents who were married 50 + years they never said a bad word about each other; when they both died, then I got to hear the real story from my aunts and uncles.
😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣 SBU Live actually looks nice here in my opinion. I almost didn't recognize her. But Shirley always looks like she has been through hell and back, and if you listen to her story she has. Go back and watch videos of her talking about her experience. When Princella was on their show talking about women suffering, my mind immediately went to her and the suffering she and her husband admitted she endured because of him. Every time I see her my heart hurts for her. I think both she and her husband were also battling different illnesses as well. He has dealt with cancer twice, I can't remember her health situation.
Hopefully sooner than soon. In the meantime, I encourage you to check out the "Upset The Vows Unpacked" series from Embassy City Church when Tim was pastor. I can say truly say that I grew exponentially under his leadership over the course of the past four years
After watching this video and Princella's version along with background of how her intervew even came to be, I can see that the hosts clearly had an agenda in both sets of interviews. I almost wanna say this interview was quite disrespectful to these mature ladies. Clearly the questuons thrown at them were loaded with bias and had a distinct agenda behind it. The women were able too see that and answered accordingly despite the men's framing. Overall after looking at eveyrthing within context, these men proved many of Princella's points. The real gag is that even the women in this intervew agreed with her in parts. This is an example of an aganda backfiring in your face, which explains why there isn't a lot of male participation in the comments. These women spoke to both men and women and that was not the initial intent of this interview. The hosts wanted to set to up an attack piece on Princella and the ladies weren't having that.
The ladies really are showing their age with the $250,000 house analogy. Thats like the going rate for a standard sized house, in the hood in some places.
Whould it have made a difference if, She would of said 500,000 house that He could maintain on only his income, and with her 1,000,000 house expectations with out contributing to the Financial responsibility of said 1,000,000 home? IT takes 30 years to pay tor a house! Just and example He goes to work for 25 years pays all the bills and one day he has a accident and broke his back and can no longer work and pay for life style. Where does that live him ??? Will wife step up and take care of him for 25 year ???? Are would she abandon her responsibility as a wife because now it time for her to put the family on her back??? How would she deal with financial responsibility , when that was the husband sole purpose????when divorce is initiated by unhappy wife because of financial problems?????
@@chrislevy9742 It’s hard to read your comment with all the extra punctuation and bad grammar. Firstly, the situation you propose is purely hypothetical. You’re getting worked up about a fake scenario. Secondly, it makes no sense to buy a house you can’t afford. The real reason that people do it is to fit in and to impress other people. Lastly, the housing market and economy are not the fault of a wife. If a man wants to marry, he should be wise enough to do so when he is financially stable. Women should also be financially stable as well. And people in general must learn financial literacy and find ways to feel satisfied with their own lives.
You didn't answer my question! The questions is will a woman stay with their husband after he provides for 25 years then breaks his back and can no longer work , Will the wife take over the Financial responsibility ?? Simple with bad grammar and all !!!
At 144:00 Shirley nailed it on the fear men have of not measuring up in making enough money to satisfy their wives needs. That’s one reason that men never feel ready for marriage if they haven’t saved up enough. Men don’t want to fail.
That's a BS excuse to cover for males who simply don't value marriage. 80% of bm have child(ren). Children cost money. It makes no sense for a collective full of fathers to claim they don't marry because of money, while they sit up an make Children.😂 Bm aren't married because they would rather be in the streets or go from woman to woman, until they find their dream girl. The problem with that is they make broken homes on their journey to find the woman they want to wife. Stop pretending as if money is the reason, when 80% of bm have kid(s).
I can relate. I don't even feel comfortable dating cuz of where I am at financially. I think my partner deserves a man that can provide for her and I'm just not there yet so I'd rather be single and continue my walk with the Lord.
Hello Family, I am enjoying this beautiful conversation about the becoming of a wife. Thank Ty and Ryan for this beautiful platform for us to grow developing deeper and meaningful relationships.
I think the challenge w/ millennials and younger is the older generations mode of operation no longer applies perfectly.Couples have so many different backgrounds and aspirations,you have to find your own normal.I know households where the wife is a doctor and the husband is Manager…and the wife enjoys working….they share the household work and her income is geared towards retirement…another that’s very traditional.Women want equal pay and nicer trips and sometimes want to pay for it….I think we’re at a societal transition point in the roles w/I relationships…it’s odd to have women that want to make equal or more pay than a man, enjoy their work, want the man to help around the house, watch the kids and take out the trash….while at the same time wanting him to do everything her father did who came home tired from a factory and just went to sleep….having the same value system is important…I think everything else has to be figured out by the couple…these days communication is more important than who’s going to cover all the bills…bc more nuanced discussions are needed compared to previous generations
@hardlyinitiated As an aside, the new times are going to take some getting used to…I saw the new show on my inbox along with the date and time and still thought the time was simply changed on Monday…
*Hmm..* The older generations mode of operations will always apply and it was never perfect, its called working things out as these wives has eloquently put it. Regardless of backgrounds and aspirations.. and the real purpose is what do God want for the leader of the household and if his wife will help him or not. Maybe she rather seek her aspirations more than taking care of him and their children. I remember a woman who her and her husband were both doctors, but when she had her children.. she realize all of that had to be put to the back burner. It had no bearing in most cases to her new job which was raising their children. It may not be a waste but it could not be used at that time, or at least the first few years of her children's life. After getting use to the first go around, she relaxed more with the next couple of kids and was able to better balance everything. So when a woman understands that role.. she herself cannot worry about other things that women today, choose either to ignore, not worry about before having children or decided to work while bearing children.. causing more stress onto herself. *Next is why are you falling for the equal pay concept?* You do know, no one has to pay anyone the same if they wish too.. especially when people are fighting for the position. Some places make it look lucrative and what not, but you are fighting for what someone is providing for a person.. how can ppl dictated what someone wants to pay you unless you are putting in work and they don't want to show that person any love for it... That's basically called entitlement. Any place that is vying for such a thing might as well be either in a socialist or communist environment.. better yet, call in humanoids to run that position. You must see what's going on now? Why do you think they are allowing all this theft and chaos with theft? They are setting up shop for AI to be a need to offset the lost due to theft and the parents of those children, those kids, and the adults now who are all for commuting those acts are instituting their own death and the people working when they cant have those jobs in the future. *Regarding everything else..* what these woman/wives have stated is something I agree with. The problem is, if in their spirit, they are willing to uproot everything and disregard what their husband said.. i hope she is doing all of that being in the spirit of God, and he himself can see that eventually before responding with haste that may be warranted but a push for stillness is better.
The “older generation mode of operation” was women’s suffering and enduring abuse. Emotional abuse, FINANCIAL abuse, mental abuse & PHYSICAL abuse. Women have access to resources & education like no other time in history. This means FREEDOM for women. Resources & education were DELIBERATELY kept from women in the not so distant past. So that women had NO OTHER CHOICE than to rely & depend on males for resources. ABSOLUTE ABUSE. Males have romanticized this abusive model of “relationships” and have delusions about having it today. Women want no parts of this patriarchal misogynistic abusive system.
WOW THIS WAS SOOOOOOO GOOD Kings! And PROVES why the word of God says for the "older women to TEACH the younger women." Because there is something they can give that is more valuable than "science and statistics". It's WISDOM! I'm glad y'all brought these mature queens on here.
Thank you so much for this. I needed the positive all around women and men facts!! This was so wholesome and genuine. I’m glad we were able to hear from married women in Healthy marriages because they absolutely do exist.
Growing up, the male child should learn from his mom how to clean, cook and do household chores. In marriage, it takes two to make it completely work. When there's a compromised relationship, nothing can get in the way of growing, building, communicating.
I’m a spiritual person. But what spiritual means to me is that I have a personal relationship with God. I don’t do anything or make any choices in my life without consulting what God would want me to do. I am always speaking with God in my mind and even on my way to work everyday. I am a more conscious person now because I walk with God in my spirit. I’m not perfect and I sin everyday, but my day starts and ends with God’s hand in everything that I do (or don’t do).
🎯It's a COVENANT, not a BUSINESS!!!!! Covenant is spiritual and organic... together you learn aspects of God's nature that don't come natural to you. Together, you get to display a clearer picture of God as love. You're speaking truth. Also, you can't wear your woman out and expect her to reach her sexual potential. It's an unreasonable expectation. You'll both end up missing out on the beautiful experience intended for your relationship.💜 These ladies are rich in wisdom. Thank you bringing in someone in my age range to speak on marriage. This is wonderfully real!! Appreciate you all.🎯💜🙏🏽
I enjoyed listening to this podcast today. I've been married over thirty years, and I have been a working mom and a stay at home mom, so I have experienced all perspectives of the discussion except divorce.
@bellavega8048 Yes, I did it,but he paid the bills and groceries.There was never a fifty-fifty.If he got home early would cook. Sometimes, he would do the dishes, laundry, or make the bed. I have no complaints!
🙏🏽 on the LIVE, I mentioned that I’ve been teaching for 14 years and it’s a VERY selfless profession (bringing work home, communication with families, collaboration with colleagues before and after work hours, etc. ). It’s not what people think it seems looking from the outside. ⚠️
Becoming a new woman is sooo real as you enter mariage and motherhood. The change was hard but so worth it. Fighting the change is where we often go short. The change can be beautiful ❤
That was the biggest takeaway from this discussion. It applies to.men and women...renewed minds lead to new men and women in Christ. That is the sticking point that hangs folks up.
In regard to the 50/50 relationship, here the thing: 1. Times are hard 2. Not every man is an entrepreneur. Not every man has the skills to be one. Some don’t desire to be one. 3. Some women have talents and skills and the desire to work and put them to use. 4. There sometimes is a fear associated from both parties when the man is the sole bread winner- when some men take care of the finances, they abuse the power and feel entitled to do as they please regardless of how it affects their woman. On the other hand, some women take advantage/use men and are only with them because they are being taken care of. Also, if the relationship dissolves, the woman can end up having nothing.
50/50 keeps being reduced to finances but there is so much additional relationship labor that is not being taken on equally. These aspects are included in true 50/50 or egalitarian partnerships.
@@Heyu7her3 I agree, and the other things are usually addressed too, but I think that the finances are what people are referring to when the 50/50 relationship is mentioned.
I hear you but…when you find the right man that have the means and can provide 100% for you while also giving you the freedom to do what you want to make money. Everything you said means nothing! If you choose a man after evaluation and he isn’t able to provide and needs to depend on you financially because he isn’t able to take care of himself financially without depending on a woman to help him. You can motivate him to do anything he sets his mind to! But Never settle for less…unless you’re down for working while pregnant and okay with a daycare raising your children 🥲
He’s cherry picking her view points though to have conversation with these ladies which isn’t a fair analysis. He knows exactly what he doing he should of told them watch the episode before the show to give their feedback.
She did the same by not talking about her being abused by her grandmother and mother. But it was only men who abused her in this interview though. She said she went to school for cellular microbiology but didn't disclose she never graduated in her studies, she spoke about being an officer in the military but never exposed the fact she was kicked out of the military, she quoted many studies but never explained that studies aren't truths or facts. See how cherry-picking works on both sides.
A teaching job? Low-stress?????? Seriously? 😂😂😂😂. I guess a chemist, a professor, ministry, or entrepreneurship are out of the question careers for "wives." lol.
@@Iamjuststevelive it’s 2 women out of thousands. So, 2 women won’t convince me that’s the case for most women. Because if most women were happy in marriage the divorce rates would not be more than 50% for first marriages. Go gaslight someone else.
@36:05 at how to evaluate who will stick it out when things get tough, the reality is NO ONE KNOWS!. There's no guarantee that the either party won't fail each other. What guarantees sustainability in a marriage is consistent, mutual commitment, mutual respect. mutual values. If the toughness consistently comes from one party, divorce becomes inevitable over time. There's no need to fear divorce and losing out if both parties are genuine.
This was such a breath if fresh air after the last live. These ladies have so much wisdom. These are the conversations that need to be had. They’re providing practical solutions.
Great Show, This is the conversations and the type of communication that men and women need to fix our families and communities, the level of respect and transparency is a wonderful and inspiring sight.
Finally some mature women whose speaking and teaching values about relationships, men and women, families, etc based upon not just on their opinion but based upon Christian principles and through their experience of trial and error. I applaud these ladies 👏🏼👏🏼Glad to have them back on the show ❤
I absolutely love and appreciate these two extraordinary women and this conversation. I am a grown man and I greatly appreciate hearing wisdom from wise women.
This is about being married to a God Fearing man, that is in his word and prepared put his friends aside, consider u in all things and provide for u and ur earnings are just Xtra.. Now how many of u actually know and are dating a man like this?? Very few most men are far from wanting to give u this life don't pick up their Bible let alone go to church. Love these ladies but thy are not speak about most men in 2024 thy been married since the 90s things done went to hell in a hand basket. Sorry.
Exactly… the whole thing about having FAITH vs just a vision 👀. Choose one + something something “you will be right”. I mean… we now have cars, electricity ⚡️ or can get on an airplane to wherever. Plus, that one car that’s floating around in the space as we speak. Not too long ago, none of those [+ countless others] were… possible + the inventors or those who BELIEVED it is, were consider weird as shit, within their timelines. Sooo… there have definitely been much more weirder things to have FAITH about than finding just ONE man that fits that 👆🏼 category. And, vice versa. Right? Or is it just me? 🤔🤷🏼♀️😂 But, on the side note… JUST IN CASE shit don’t work out + you don’t find him or her… BECOME that type of person you’re searching for [in others] in the process. Just in case. 🙏🏼
I’m just imagining women in church waiting for a God fearing man to show up with a plan for her life. Going from being hopeful in the 20’s. Looking at the doors of the church opening and hoping that her handsome hardworking single man will walk through the doors. Then she’s in her 30’s and the sisters in the church are setting her up with Deacon LeRoy’s nephew who just found the Lord but he still smokes weed everyday. Seriously y’all this is not reality at all. I’ve dipped in and out of churches over the years in my life. First of all, I got the cold shoulder because, especially when younger, I was attractive I bring that up only to say women like the women on this panel looked at me as a threat. Even in large churches there are only a handful of men in general. Of course some men do go to church specifically to meet vulnerable women. Speaking practically it’s impossible to survive on one income. So both the husband and wife will have to work. A cheap home is $400,000+ But you also have to factor in a safe neighborhood, great schools, and other expenses. So if you make great money your home will costs $650,000 and you still may have to pay for private school because public schools are awful. These women are oversimplifying marriage. Suggesting that women should submit to a man’s plan. When I was married I promise you I was the mastermind behind the financial gains in my marriage. My ex husband was successful in his career but not as skilled at big picture and executing plans as I am. I helped to build our wealth. This idea that marriage will have bad times is sad. It’s like playing the lottery. Hoping you picked the right numbers for a nice payout. Living with a person who is unpleasant in any regard is extremely stressful. A person has up a wall. A person who lies by omission. A person with a temper. A person who entertains too much or never wants company. A moderate to heavy drinker. A person who lacks patience and parenting skills. If it’s a second marriage kids and ex spouse issues. All of these added stresses over time will likely cause health issues. Not to mention situations that are abusive. You should never get into a relationship with the understanding that there will be bad times. I wish everyone well in the new year 2024. Follow your gut and intuition. Knowing what I know now, I’m leaning strongly towards disrupting the patriarchy. Too many men are not capable of being head of a loving and respectful household. I enjoy Princella’s discussions. She is a big picture person. The current state of society needs fixing and particularly in the USA. Folks are misunderstanding Princella and misquoting her. Of course I don’t agree with everything she says. That would be cult like and unhealthy. I do understand why she says a lot of what she says and I also understand why folks believe some of her thoughts are extreme. In the end, it’s about safety both physically and mentally for women. I’ve seen women from all walks of life suffer in marriages. I did to a certain extent. The stress definitely affected my health. The male ego can be fragile and men can be extremely defensive. I recently spoke to an old friend who is a Dr and she had to whisper on the phone and be on the lookout for her husband catching her on the phone with friends. His family treated her horribly. It was heartbreaking. You guessed it, she is extremely devoted to the church. He attends out of obligation. Hope this post helps.
I think the concept of letting go of or altering a "friend " relationship is challenging because, that isn't already their value system. Also it depends on HOW that request is being communicated and WHY! Because if its being requested from a toxic place then leave the whole relationship. If your values are aligned it doesn't even have to be said and your friends if their values are the same will also understand and fall back IF they see that your CHARACTER is worthy of trusting you with their friends heart and safety. A person who is pretending to be of good character and tries to isolate you will play along long enough to get you separated. If you have friends around that they know will check in regularly they won't last. So it's very important to not just isolate. Create healthy boundaries for sure. But never totally detach. Community is necessary literally for your life.
I’m understanding everyone has mental, emotional, physical, spiritual and financial needs and deal breakers. Agreeing on them up front creates the opportunity to have a fulfilling marriage. If no agreements were made up front, today’s the perfect day to do so. If not that’s great information to make decisions and future plans.
It’s so difficult truly impossible to be with a guy that is still carrying weight from previous relationships especially when he’s making you carry their cross! To be honest had I not left it definitely would’ve broken me!, I was close
Actually their not because it's been 28 and 25 years for this ladies not all women have to be walked on to stay married it's great to say that if you focus on God's standards and the man picks a woman with God's traits and not be petty it can work this is about the two right people who knows they are one not a I want what I want relationship.
Married couples do have issues but with God you can make your marriage work. I have been married 37 years and sometimes you don’t like him but love him for who he is.
@@carolynlong8701it works for you. But reality is, many married couples are simply roommates. Half are headed for divorce and some are more like prisons. Yes, finding the right person is one big aspect, but painting a rosy picture when so many are in couples therapy isn’t what is needed. What is needed is how to vet for the right partner, and how to see red flags of your marriage headed for divorce before it gets there and how to fix it with your partner.
This was an excellent live show. I am a regular listener of the business with the brother Jason Black. I feel he is the most innovative, thought-provoking man on the Internet as a pertains to the dynamics between men and women. Today I think I found a new show to my surprise that’s disseminating information on that level
1:05:34 no, she’s not cooking for him unless he’s doing HUSBAND DUTIES!! Which is him showing he has the capacity to provide and protect for her. That he knows how to handle her emotions that can vary and how he handles it to build her, teach her.
These ladies proved everything P said .. I guess it’s ok to feel hurt by ur partner because we be making it deeper then what it is .. P said women take on a lot with these men..
The point is sometimes people hurt each other. Neither men nor women act perfectly in any relationship. My issue is with people who make blanket statements like men are all evil and women are all saints. That's just absurd.
@@keptbygrace6221 naw women stupid and dumb down .. women are taught to forgive men and except behaviors .. that’s why she she said sometimes the hurt really Dnt b that deep .. the fact that y’all believe being hurt is normal is weird.. and Princella never said women are saints.. she always saying we dumb and doped up on penis juice.. which u can look around with UR OWN EYES and see that .. women Dnt learn from there mistakes they repeat them and be mad they got the same results.. women need to date themselves and walk in there purpose .. and stop giving themselves to this men
What's good for some is not good for all. Find out what works for your relationship and do that. I don't see where I need to stop being myself to keep my husband happy. He married me! I had to adjust, but I never stopped being myself. There is no way I would add all my money to the pot. I will not give up my single friends to make him happy. I will not be so heavenly minded that I'm no earthly good! I am married (13 years), I try to walk in love, I try to be understanding, and I try to be the best wife & mother I can be.
I will say we hear what you are saying but what does your husband say? Does he share your views? Do you even care what he thinks? Have a conversation with him.
@@lesliesoloman5145 After 13 years of marriage, he is in complete agreement. We are still very much in love which is more than I can say for many married couples. There are many different kinds of people in this world, meaning there are many different forms of marriage. It is presumptuous to say that one size should fit all. I am fortunate to have found my match. He is the head of our house, and he doesn't control me. We consider each other. We choose love everyday. This reply seems to be without love, kindness, or a seeking of understanding. This is what the world is missing and why things are falling apart. Jesus commandment was to love. Christianity forgot this and should apply the commandment in every aspect of life.
The *only* thing Mrs. SB said that I take issue with is her suggesting the wife take a teaching job due to the "low stress". Teaching is STRESSFULL!!! Beyond that, I was continuously in awe of the practical wisdom shared by these women. Their message was so clear: "do it God's way, and you will find fulfillment". Plain and simple. Even doing it God's way is full of challenges, but operating outside of God's will is what brought on all the things that we're arguing about.
Men jobs are stressful and physical and dangerous, we get no cookies on pay day only the money we risk our life for !! Two sides to a coin ,I worked at a pipe company and there are porters that only swept the floor for 12 hours every one would say that they wish they had that job because it seems easy ! One day pipe operation shutdown, Everybody had to get a broom and swept for hour now every one got the chance to see how hard it was to day to a job that seem easy until you are in that position!!!
I resonate with the wives' expressions on marriage as a profound spiritual union. It's more than a 50/50 partnership; it's a wholehearted commitment. Aligning spiritually, allowing God to transform desires, and shifting mindset are key. For single women seeking a marriage-minded approach, it involves a conscious shift in perspective, aligning desires with spiritual values, and letting God guide towards marital commitment. I am living in this truth. Tysean and Ryan, your dedication to purpose is evident in your success. Heartfelt gratitude for answering your call and positively impacting your community! 💎💖🙏🏽
@@keptbygrace6221They need to get legal advice and therapy advice, etc, and exhaust all efforts . If that doesn't work, then get the divorce. As someone who was involved with a person who's parents remained in a toxic marriage far too many years "to wait until the kids go to college" he stated that his parents should've never gotten married. He wished they'd divorced when he was a child because it would've saved him years of therapy
I just don’t understand if we both are being led by the Lord why does marriage have to be so hard? I understand we are 2 imperfect people, however I just don’t think it should be that hard in my opinion. Get Dr RA Vernon about marriage.
It is not that hard. People make things more complicated than they have to be. Pick your battles and choose wisely, and I say this as a married woman of 17 years.
A part of the problem with this conversation is that the men think they are a prize and women need to prove to them that they should choose them as a wife instead of preparing to be a husband and presenting himself ready to win her over.
If he's the cream of the crop then he is the prize. Especially if he brings structure, stability, finance and protection. You just bring EGO based on your comment.
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In march i will have been married to my husband for 28 yrs. i am 51 and a woman of God. lets not act everything princella said was incorrect. I wish these two woman would have spoken more realistic and balanced. sometimes a husband is not the visionary. No two people are the same! So no two marriages will be the same. There will be constant adjustments and adaptions. Because both people are human and imperfect. Ask God to help you choose. And even then….. it will never be perfect. Trusting God thee entire time!
Exactly this is why is younger women are turned off from older women pushing marriages they know they are not happy in.
My sentiments exactly.. everything princella said was not all wrong. Some things were extreme but she did come with some cold hard facts! I wish our elder women would be more balanced In their advice & knowledge they pass down.. a lot of what they’re saying still doesn’t aid in the resolution of why so many black women feel deeply neglected in these marriages pushing them to the edge of divorce. I would much rather them share more insight on how we can bridge that huge disconnect rather than act as if it’s not truly there.
@healingsteps7629 They can't acknowledge what is bc they're still in it. They have to keep a level of delusion to remain in the circumstance.
The husband should be the visionary
@@iSweetnSimpleolder women come from a different rime where they were taught that having a piece of man is better than not having a man at all. LITERALLY. Its a sad situation. They are predominantly male centered and largely religious. They have been thoroughly brainwashed & indoctrinated to worship males.
Why are men asking women to surrender their whole life, devoted love, earning potential, decision making, leadership, her body (directly impacting her health), time (which is her life), just to name a few... and they don't want to share resources??? I'm curious what's behind this because you can't put a price on what you're asking for. The type of woman mature enough to make this committment deserves financial security in a monogamous, loving marriage.
Just because that’s what the woman think she’s deserve doesn’t mean that’s what the male is capable or willing to give. That is what Princella is trying to get women to understand, but many women want to live in delusion. Even though they can see how men are behaving.
Only a small minority of women will get to live that fairytale dream life.
Exactly!! It goes to show the hatred and dislike for women. We were never appreciated by men remember we couldn't even have a credit card until 1974. We had to start a women's right to have rights and these women want to overlook that. It's the lack of knowledge for me
All men aren’t asking for women to do all these things. Many men want partnership and would support their wives’ careers (as opposed to asking them to give up all the things you describe); pregnancy and postpartum are exceptions where a man should be able to provide (or the couple can establish an emergency savings fund). The idea of a wife never working outside the home sounds like a lifetime of adult financial dependency. On the flip side, there are men paying all the bills, doing kid drop offs, handling laundry and tackling other household items. Money is not everything, but the idea of paying every single bill for an adult for a lifetime is not necessarily attractive for most men. I wouldn’t want a woman to be responsible for cooking or ordering every meal I ate; I personally would feel like I was a burden to my wife. All this to say, I see why a lot of men are opting out of marriage and kids …
Funny because women have no problem asking men to surrender their lives to a woman 😂 😂 women act like they don’t understand nor care what a man has to sacrifice. The me me me me attitude is disgusting as fuck.
@@BeautiDonwhy would a man surrender to a woman ya very stupid to think otherwise.
These women and Princella are coming from two different perspectives. One is spiritual ( religious) and the other is biological. You cannot compare the two. If the premises of marriage is “traditional” then men and women are not sleeping around before marriage. Now we know this audience is not that. Most of the men want trad wives but aren’t trad men so the whole discussion is mute.
Princella is coming from a place of unaccountabilty and hurt. Her delusional thinking offers no solution but only provides confusion and a space for her to babble.
PRINCELLA IS A FEMINIST NOTHING SHE SAY IS BIOLOGICAL RIGHT.
Stay single mate. No man is going to honor such a worldly mindset long-term. You want it one way thus you will always find an issue with righteousness. Biology and spirituality definitely overlap. You need a man and woman to reach higher alignment both biological and spiritually.
In the days of the bible, traditional men had multiple wives and concubines. Also check out 1 Kings 1-7 in your bible
@@steveanderson5504that was not honorable which is why in the nt it prevents males from becoming church leaders if they have more than one wife
Not much of a flex 😂
If you are selfish and immature just stay single. Everybody does not need to be married. It's okay to be happily single.
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Only problem is that who is self aware to know they ae selfish and immature
If people want to have sex... they should get married (whole, healed, and wisely counseled)...If they DO NOT want to have sex and will NOT masturbate nor watch porn then they should absolutely stay single. It's okay to Healthily single. #My2Cents
Correct
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Now you know these people are lying to themselves with that. Unless you are a hermit relationship with opposite sex is needed just my opinion
One of the issues with the commentary of SB and some older marriwd women is the one sided loyalty and commitment. For example, she mentioned how a man being disrespected will divorce you. But later said when a man goes crazy on you or geew up in chaos and is chaotic you are to love him through it. No divorces, and you understand this is how he grew up, and you learn how to love him through it etc.
Why couldnt he learn to love a disrespectful woman? Maybe thats how she was raised?
Men live hearing women tell other women all the stuff they should accept and ride through with men but the tolerance is thin vice versa.
Sorry thats not commitment thats a set up for women to be indentured into onesifed unhealthy marriages thinking thats her "duty"
lastnamefirst9423 I agree. On this show though, there have been a few married men who have said that they wouldn't leaving their wives wasn't an option and one said his wife could be very disrespectful (I believe he said they were at odds the day they were on or shortly before).
And several married women on the show said that they would leave under certain conditions.
BUT you're right there is always an overwhelming amount of urging for women to put up with and placate a man. I say there has to be give and take on BOTH ends. No one should put up with things for a person who wouldn't do it for them. And of course there MUST be boundaries/limits. There should be some non nogotiabies.
Thank you! They didn't give men "the game" to be good husbands to their wives. All about how a woman should move for a man.
@@ashleybrownprostylist Exactly!!!!! Once I saw SBU Live as the panelist, I already know she can't and won't tell men how to be good husbands because she tells men what they want to hear. The only thing she says that goes against their belief system is to abstain from sex.... even though she admits that she and her husband didn't wait and they had a child before they were married.
@@filmadcamp1512 I agree. I remembered from the first time that she was on that she was partial to men.
@@nenajay3174 They're not even trying to disprove Princella's point. They literally sitting here proving her point. They brought two women on - one who is a pick me and one who has SUFFERED in her marriage for many years... to advise women to get married. Although they labeled it as if these women are schooling men.
I would think they would have interviewed a happily married woman who hasn't "suffered" in a relationship with a man like the lady on the right. Then she goes on to say she was molested by a man at 9 and sexually assaulted as a teen. I mean she was basically supporting Princella's argument with everything she uttered. I was listening like 🤦♀
@1:37:00 I have a friend who was put on bedrest at 3 months pregnant and had to stop working. You just never know what can happen. Budget and financial planning and establishing emergency fund is super important.
True and what if the man becomes disabled and can’t work. Is the wife educated enough to pick up all the finances or what’s the plan look like in unforeseen circumstances? Painting an ideal is not always reality. Life happens when you least expect it.
I think what is lacking with many (in regard to the fear of marriage) is the genuine love and like for one another. Too many are looking to see what they can get in a mate-what can they get out of it, how can the person help or make them better INSTEAD of looking to form a bond WITH the person they love the same way they love themselves.
She is correct!! When people ask why i’m not married, my answer now is, I didn’t know who I am, I needed healing from my Creator and then I could discern.
Unless you’re dating someone and they’re asking that Q, then that’s different. Yet I learned a long time ago that it’s really none of anyone’s business why you aren’t married. And you’re not obligated to answer their question.
Ppl are single and unmarried for various reasons and that’s their business!
@@EastpointeI absolutely agree. I have been telling my story and being more transparent lately on this spiritual journey. When I answer the question it is honestly to put it out there how important it is to put God first and do the internal work. Actually getting married is easy and it’s definitely not any of their business lol But yes you are correct!
I’m a single 51 year old woman. Thank you for constantly bringing and dropping info. These dating streets are dangerous……but so is a person armed with lots of knowledge. You guys are doing it big!!!
Dating streets are dangers because males are predators by nature.
Yea you're a loser in life
There is a difference between religion and spirituality. People think they are the same
I love this platform that gives their flowers to the older generation. What we are lacking in society is their wisdom
I agree. Unfortunately, the old "fools" are the loudest and that's the "wisdom" that's been carried into this generation. It's part of the reason, I believe, that our generation is in such turmoil.
I agree I been learning so much from this channel
@@ToshaLove1like yo generation is better stop it..
@coreythomas3633 clearly, you didn't understand what I said. I'm a "millennial" and the main reason MY generation is so messed up is because a lot of us didn't have wise elders to look up to and/or didn't listen to the few we did have.
@coreythomas3633 and now that foolishness is being passed down to the next generation. I'm saying, it's time to stop it.
Marriage is spiritual like she mentioned. If you don’t desire to serve, take up your cross and submit to Christ, die to yourself etc. then it will feel unnatural because it goes against our selfish and sinful nature which is to take care of ourselves, worry about no one else, “answer to” no one else, etc. it feels unnatural because the spirit and flesh are always waging war against one another.
You better preach👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
You are spot on!
Galatians 5:17
For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want.
Boo u Mixing up religious beliefs aka Jesus forced on people by males and spirituality aka honoring the Devine feminine creator aka living naturally with the planet. Many of u are delusional🤣
THANK YOU 🙏🏾
What people are grappling with is that some people were not meant to be married and some were not meant to have children. Society needs single people. But rather than embrace singleness. Rather than accepting singleness for others society changes what family and marriage means so singles can be in that box. It hurts the individuals, their communities, and the children.
Yes! And not all married couples want children. Society is too focused on what other people are doing then getting upset when it’s not what they would do
Exactly
Loved hearing advise from mature women that are in marriages. I am learning everyday. Thank you 🙏🏽
“It’s good to hear those kind of messages.” These men needed an ego boost after given a dose of truth by a female that was fed up. Instead of bringing on a Tony Gaskin or someone that will hold men to a higher standard they bring on the mothers who will soothe them. Very little of this addressed the culture as a whole. There was a lot of individual thinking and blame shifting. At least Priscilla was trying to find a solution for the systems not the individual. These conversations were not equal. Too many subjective statements.
😂😂😂😂😂 you caught on to their bs
😅😅😅 lesbian gives truth how?
@@adelestears8298a lesbian gives truth how.??
@@coreythomas3633 what does her sexuality have to do with the fact that she speaks the truth about male behavior?
@@adelestears8298 she not speaking facts and a lesbian that been molested and abuse. Should not be speaking on heterosexual relationship. WOMEN NEED MEN MORE SO THAN MEN NEED WOMEN. WHAT SOCIETY HAVE YA WOMEN BUILT.
Definitely pay attention to what is revealed during the dating phase.
I don't agree with the panelist at 1:00:12
Some personality traits are very problematic & don't have to be accepted.🙅🏾
Tysean & Ryan I'm extremely Grateful to you for having me back🙏🏾💯
SBU, how does one get in contact with you Sis? Professionally of course. Very good show gentlemen. Impressed by the maturity of the show, and your selection of guests.
@@disciple3141 My channel is listed in the description of this show. Thank you for watching and supporting HI
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I'm 46 and single, lately I've chosen my career and caring for my mom to occupy my time until I find someone mature and ready. I have a couple that have been married 69 years, the first thing they both said that kept them together was church! Both being in the word and communicating. They gave me hope.
Jesus heals Amen
Yes she (Princella) mentioned how women in the church stayed married longer because that's what the church teaches women - to suffer and stay through abuse and mistreatment... which it does because I grew up in the church. A lot of the older men didn't go to church like that. And those who do/did go sometimes operated just like (or worse than) men of the world. That's why like Tim said and even SBU Live on this show - the men need to be Jesus centered and that means they study Jesus and follow what HE did and move in the way he moved - in service to their community.
Jesus healed, fed people, cooked for his disciples, washed their feet, forgave, and the only issues he had was actually with the religious community.
@@filmadcamp1512this lady is suffering being a career woman and obviously would prefer help through this tough time in her life. You assuming who men are in bad faith are the reasons you don't deserve a good one. Marriage is duty. If you can't find a purpose in that shut up giving horrid advice
@@gentlemans.guidance365 What are you talking about? Which lady is suffering? What advice did I give? Which point triggered you? The part about men hardly going to church, the part about men in church moving worse than men in the world or the part about "being like Jesus"? Help me understand your point.
I’m from Kansas city, KS ! I have been watching y’all for 2 months now. I love what y’all are doing with this platform . Y’all have really helped me so much. Thank y’all and keep being great!
Interesting perspective so far at 21:05 minutes in. The woman's purpose is to "be the helpmate". I would like to think there is more to our existence and purpose than that. There are other stories in the Bible where women prove that observation. Not everyone gets married and some are widowed. Are we now saying they aren't living in their purpose or that their purpose no longer exists because the spouse died?
I think you are over-reaching. Women who are married must be help mates, but not everyone must be married to have a fulfilled life. Paul said, "I wish that all men were as I am (single and devoted only to God). But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." 1 Corinthians 7:1-16
@keptbygrace6221 I appreciate you take. However, the statement made implied something very different. This would be why the question was proposed and why I said there is evidence in other Bible stories that demonstrates as such.
@@angelahayden5647 I guess my confusion is people comment on videos like this with an attitude "Well, not everybody wants to be married. Men just want to use and abuse you. I'm single by choice. Etc..." and my point is, then this video is not for you. These guests are married ladies giving a certain perspective and are talking to a particular audience- women who are married or who want to be married. Not every message is for everybody.
@Judah_1983 I agree.
Yes to the relationship with God!!!
They set this up to try their hardest to cover up the truth that Princella was telling. Didn’t work…
I feel like these guys are two faced.. In the face of these women they give the appearance of respectful males knowing that these women hold the patriarchy.. their all ears to “prove their point”.. these women didn’t get cut off not one time.
In front of Princella.. they’re quick to cut her off because it doesn’t go along with what they’re accustomed to. They were closed up and rude because they didn’t want to hear the truth. But before Princellas appearance on their show they told her they wanted her to “be able to talk” .. but then cut her off because they didn’t want to hear it.
Why not learn something new?! This world is suppose to evolve and it won’t if we stay stuck in these dumb ass circles. Be open.
They wouldn’t be trying to cover up the truth if it wasn’t true.
Why are y’all so worried about what Princella talks about if it doesn’t apply to you?
Y’all see what the hell going on.. lol. Stop playing 😂
Typical male behavior. They don't want to change and become better people.
Princella is a broken women who was abused by the women in her family and has never healed from her childhood traumas. She doesnt know what a successful marriage is because she never saw one with her parents or grandparents. I can find plenty of scientific studies to tell me what I want to hear but these are just studies. White men once said that blacks arent human based on scientific studies. Dont let this unhealed womans viewpoints lead you to believe she is sincere.
😅😅WHAT TRUTH IS THIS LESBIAN SPEAKING
@@coreythomas3633 we see u, up & down d comments screaming she’s a lesbian, how “logical”
@@coreythomas3633 Your truth Corey Thomas. Your truth.
What sense does it make to bring in these old ladies in 2023 to try and teach young people to do things that clearly would never work today?? What sense does it make to continue to try to tell young women to essentially be slaves to their husband. So the husband will leave if the woman is disrespectful, but the woman should accept all the disrespect from this male? Idiocracy.
They are mules
That's like asking what sense does it make to bring in Warren Buffet to give a talk on making money in 2023? Only a fool would say such a thing. ..But go off Kween.
@@Mr.Oct___ The idiocracy. That comparison doesn't work. You're talking about money, we're talking about human beings. Like hu?? 😂Like, can you grow a brain please? Even if you want to FORCE that comparison, it still DOESN'T work. Warren Buffett would never tell you the whole truth about how he actually makes money. So in most ways, you CAN'T even take what he says and do it for yourself because it would not be useful or beneficial. You have such a loser mindset 💀. Times have changed so epically, and to continue to tell women to continue to be slave (especially to a low-grade subpar species), is literally ridiculous & laughable at best. You are trying to force things to stay the same, that will NOT happen. Change will, has, and is already happening, Accept it. Losers
Bringing fossils on here makes no sense, math ain't mathing. The change is already happening, birth rate continues to decline. The male loneliness epidemic continues to skyrocket & women still don't want you. Yet your species continues to refuse to get the message 🙄
It didn’t work then! 😂 AS SOON AS WOMEN GOT THE EIGHT TO OWN CREDIT in 1974, the divorce rate skyrocketed!
@@DivineMotherGoddess888they were in bondage and act like it’s something to parade to this generation of women. Nobody wants to be a slave to a bunch of men that’s going to disrespect, abuse, cheat and even have outside children. They’re not special. They never were nor are they now. Women were dependent on them and no longer are and their ideology should’ve died soon as the divorce rate skyrocketed after women got bank accounts and jobs.
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Hello, fellow Michigander!👋🏾
i can relate to this.. I was afraid of having children too. I still don't have any, but I'm married, and this is just like having a child, lol, unpredictable.
I’m 40 and no kids yet. I can definitely relate to being afraid of marriage and having kids. I’m in therapy too girl!
These men are manipulative. Single no children looks up to pimps asking selfish questions like the divorce process hurts the man
Do you know where the fear of having children comes from? Or what the fear entails?
This was a great conversation! As a 34 yr old successfully married woman I agree to how both of these ladies are managing their marriages. God, husband, children in that order. ❤❤❤
So if you are dating and your mate is talking about how they loved their friend but then he talks about they are loosers. That is concerning
@@kathrynbrockenberry3326if he says he loved his friends and considers them looser, I would stop dating this person - he is the average of the 5 people closest to him. If that’s what he thinks in his heart about his friends then so is he - a looser.
God. Me. Husband then children
Respectfully, neither of them went in that order
Yea but what AREN’T they telling us???? These old Ho*s always leave something out!!!
I see the way in which you guys are providing balance to this conversation. Last week I watched one of your older interviews with TG and you guys have done an excellent job staying within cultural conversations while also standing on purpose but following up with this interview after Priscilla and Tim’s debate. Well done guys - I’m new here and this is exciting to watch. I’m also being fed so much.
Fed what? How to be a pick me? Girl, you going to get ran through listening to these males. Both of these hosts are single males having premarital sex with “impressionable” women. You going learn. At least keep your legs closed until marriage and keep a secret bank account.
I've started watching you guys, and I must say I have really been enlightened!❤
I can’t stretch this enough TEAM TEAM TEAM we need each other
I want a partnership
Not one sided relationship
Marriage is not a partnership you give a man cancel your not his friend and Marriage is for legacy and he makes the last decision that the way Elohim made it
@@ga9100better to be single like what the apostle Paul instructed.
@@ga9100 It is absolutely important for a husband and wife to establish a deep friendship and connection because it comes in handy when it’s time to weather the storm. In as much as the husband makes the final decision, he still needs to run the discussion by his wife. That’s where the partnership comes in because both the husband and wife runs the household. That doesn’t take away the final decision making from the man. However, as the final decision maker, he should know an area of weakness where he can designate the wife to make the final decision in that instance because no one knows it all.
@@ga9100 u supposed to do things together with your partner sir
@patricetrotter A wife is not a partner that's someone I do business with my wife is a help meet that's where you modern women have it wrong
One must define girl trip…girl trip doesn’t mean city girls
Most of my trips will be with my husband, some trips will be with other couples, and small amount of trips I go with my girls and my husband go with his friends
I believe the concern and what’s important is your choice of friends. Are you friends acting city girls or uncle Luke and friends? Do your friends hold you accountable?
I agree; it is more about who the friends are then going on an all girl trip.
I love this episode. Great words of wisdom from ladies who are knowledgeable about what it takes to be married and stay married. Thank you! 👍👍
So they went and found some women that would agree with their ideas by using pieces of Priscilla‘s point to paint a picture of her message. I see there’s people put in place to eliminate the following of Priscilla‘s ideas.
Did you expect anything different I mean come on, anytime a man hears anything distressing about manhood and then the very first thing he has to do is try to prove that women suck, and everything is their fault and if women were better then maybe the men could be better too.
There is no accountability for men whatsoever in this world I know women who have spent a decade in prison over some drugs and men who got probation for raping their step kids.
That's how unaccountable men are about anything that they do in this world men won't even hold other men accountable....... And I know why that is it's because men basically are in bromances with all of the men in the world just trying to be accepted by these men, Mandy worried way more about what they do that work think about them than what their own wife and children do.
Is there any surprise that men have a zero accountability in the world they've always had women to blame everything on.
Started with the very first man God caught him with a piece of Apple in his mouth and the first thing out of did was blame it on eve.
Adam is the one who was told never to eat the.... Go read your Bible Eve herself was never commanded by God not to eat that Apple. And if you got to read that Bible, God full-on blames Adam for what went down in the garden that day because after all Adam was told right from the start that the garden of Eden was Adam's responsibility he was responsible for the land and animals and everything in it........
But then again God screwed up so bad when he was making man....... The only thing he could do to attempt to fix him was make women.
All they did was prove princella right.
They are sad! Funny thing is they proved her right! Once again! I hope she goes VIRAL for the sake of women and children!
Exactly I didn’t even finish this. They went and found older pickmishas
@@lusekosivenathidiki3984So let me ask...if a woman who's been married for decades says she's fulfilled in her relationship w/ her hisband and her children...What exactly makes her a pickmeisha again?? And what exactly are u & Princella?? Asking for a friend of a friend.
There will be challenges in any relationship from husband to wife, child to parent, among siblings, among family members, in laws, boss to subordinate, etc, etc. it’s called living life.
Sometimes I think people make things harder than it has to be. "How can I guarantee that I won't ever be hurt?". Nonsense. The same way we can't guarantee that we'll never lose a job, never get sick, never make mistakes, etc. Life comes with ups and downs. 🤷🏾♀️
Being married 20-30 years doesn't entitle anyone to be seen as an authority on marriage. It MAY make someone an authority on their own marriage, but that's about it.
Being unable to impart TRUTH regarding the real life struggles & sacrifices women are expected to accept to stay married is why these 50+ women lack credibility for me.
Exactly
No it doesn’t but just because people give advice about their life doesn’t mean we can’t listen and apply what benefits us in our relationship!
Exactly because very few of them ever tell how they had to sacrifice their dignity and self respect to stay married..I lived with my grandparents who were married 50 + years they never said a bad word about each other; when they both died, then I got to hear the real story from my aunts and uncles.
Wrong!!!!😂😂😂😂😂
How long have you been married?……Exactly!
Not to be facetious, but they look like they’ve been married for 50 yrs individually and well over 50. Marriage is stress #findsomebodyelsetodoit
😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣 SBU Live actually looks nice here in my opinion. I almost didn't recognize her. But Shirley always looks like she has been through hell and back, and if you listen to her story she has. Go back and watch videos of her talking about her experience. When Princella was on their show talking about women suffering, my mind immediately went to her and the suffering she and her husband admitted she endured because of him. Every time I see her my heart hurts for her. I think both she and her husband were also battling different illnesses as well. He has dealt with cancer twice, I can't remember her health situation.
Marriage to a man will age you fr
@@bellavega8048marriage to a broken women ages you. Men need peace.
@@filmadcamp1512LIKE YA DONT PUT MEN THROUGH HELL AND. BACK... 😅😅😅😅😅 OH PLEASE YA CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT A MAN.
@@coreythomas3633 I don't understand anything you typed.
Years of experience talking here. Salute to you two ladies!
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I would love to see Juliette Ross on the show to speak on this same subject.
Hopefully sooner than soon. In the meantime, I encourage you to check out the "Upset The Vows Unpacked" series from Embassy City Church when Tim was pastor. I can say truly say that I grew exponentially under his leadership over the course of the past four years
After watching this video and Princella's version along with background of how her intervew even came to be, I can see that the hosts clearly had an agenda in both sets of interviews. I almost wanna say this interview was quite disrespectful to these mature ladies. Clearly the questuons thrown at them were loaded with bias and had a distinct agenda behind it. The women were able too see that and answered accordingly despite the men's framing.
Overall after looking at eveyrthing within context, these men proved many of Princella's points. The real gag is that even the women in this intervew agreed with her in parts.
This is an example of an aganda backfiring in your face, which explains why there isn't a lot of male participation in the comments. These women spoke to both men and women and that was not the initial intent of this interview. The hosts wanted to set to up an attack piece on Princella and the ladies weren't having that.
The ladies really are showing their age with the $250,000 house analogy. Thats like the going rate for a standard sized house, in the hood in some places.
Possibly, but the principle still stands.
@@crespeakslife not commenting on the principle, just how out of touch they are with present day reality.
Whould it have made a difference if, She would of said 500,000 house that He could maintain on only his income, and with her 1,000,000 house expectations with out contributing to the Financial responsibility of said 1,000,000 home? IT takes 30 years to pay tor a house! Just and example He goes to work for 25 years pays all the bills and one day he has a accident and broke his back and can no longer work and pay for life style. Where does that live him ??? Will wife step up and take care of him for 25 year ???? Are would she abandon her responsibility as a wife because now it time for her to put the family on her back??? How would she deal with financial responsibility , when that was the husband sole purpose????when divorce is initiated by unhappy wife because of financial problems?????
@@chrislevy9742 It’s hard to read your comment with all the extra punctuation and bad grammar. Firstly, the situation you propose is purely hypothetical. You’re getting worked up about a fake scenario. Secondly, it makes no sense to buy a house you can’t afford. The real reason that people do it is to fit in and to impress other people. Lastly, the housing market and economy are not the fault of a wife. If a man wants to marry, he should be wise enough to do so when he is financially stable. Women should also be financially stable as well. And people in general must learn financial literacy and find ways to feel satisfied with their own lives.
You didn't answer my question! The questions is will a woman stay with their husband after he provides for 25 years then breaks his back and can no longer work , Will the wife take over the Financial responsibility ?? Simple with bad grammar and all !!!
At 144:00 Shirley nailed it on the fear men have of not measuring up in making enough money to satisfy their wives needs. That’s one reason that men never feel ready for marriage if they haven’t saved up enough. Men don’t want to fail.
That's a BS excuse to cover for males who simply don't value marriage. 80% of bm have child(ren). Children cost money. It makes no sense for a collective full of fathers to claim they don't marry because of money, while they sit up an make Children.😂
Bm aren't married because they would rather be in the streets or go from woman to woman, until they find their dream girl. The problem with that is they make broken homes on their journey to find the woman they want to wife.
Stop pretending as if money is the reason, when 80% of bm have kid(s).
I can relate. I don't even feel comfortable dating cuz of where I am at financially. I think my partner deserves a man that can provide for her and I'm just not there yet so I'd rather be single and continue my walk with the Lord.
@@gavingrant9121 amen 🙏🏽 keep building king 👑
I don't think that they should be allowed to debate Priscilla's opinion without a rebuttal from her.
Hello Family, I am enjoying this beautiful conversation about the becoming of a wife. Thank Ty and Ryan for this beautiful platform for us to grow developing deeper and meaningful relationships.
I think the challenge w/ millennials and younger is the older generations mode of operation no longer applies perfectly.Couples have so many different backgrounds and aspirations,you have to find your own normal.I know households where the wife is a doctor and the husband is Manager…and the wife enjoys working….they share the household work and her income is geared towards retirement…another that’s very traditional.Women want equal pay and nicer trips and sometimes want to pay for it….I think we’re at a societal transition point in the roles w/I relationships…it’s odd to have women that want to make equal or more pay than a man, enjoy their work, want the man to help around the house, watch the kids and take out the trash….while at the same time wanting him to do everything her father did who came home tired from a factory and just went to sleep….having the same value system is important…I think everything else has to be figured out by the couple…these days communication is more important than who’s going to cover all the bills…bc more nuanced discussions are needed compared to previous generations
@hardlyinitiated As an aside, the new times are going to take some getting used to…I saw the new show on my inbox along with the date and time and still thought the time was simply changed on Monday…
*Hmm..* The older generations mode of operations will always apply and it was never perfect, its called working things out as these wives has eloquently put it. Regardless of backgrounds and aspirations.. and the real purpose is what do God want for the leader of the household and if his wife will help him or not. Maybe she rather seek her aspirations more than taking care of him and their children. I remember a woman who her and her husband were both doctors, but when she had her children.. she realize all of that had to be put to the back burner. It had no bearing in most cases to her new job which was raising their children. It may not be a waste but it could not be used at that time, or at least the first few years of her children's life. After getting use to the first go around, she relaxed more with the next couple of kids and was able to better balance everything. So when a woman understands that role.. she herself cannot worry about other things that women today, choose either to ignore, not worry about before having children or decided to work while bearing children.. causing more stress onto herself.
*Next is why are you falling for the equal pay concept?* You do know, no one has to pay anyone the same if they wish too.. especially when people are fighting for the position. Some places make it look lucrative and what not, but you are fighting for what someone is providing for a person.. how can ppl dictated what someone wants to pay you unless you are putting in work and they don't want to show that person any love for it... That's basically called entitlement. Any place that is vying for such a thing might as well be either in a socialist or communist environment.. better yet, call in humanoids to run that position. You must see what's going on now? Why do you think they are allowing all this theft and chaos with theft? They are setting up shop for AI to be a need to offset the lost due to theft and the parents of those children, those kids, and the adults now who are all for commuting those acts are instituting their own death and the people working when they cant have those jobs in the future.
*Regarding everything else..* what these woman/wives have stated is something I agree with. The problem is, if in their spirit, they are willing to uproot everything and disregard what their husband said.. i hope she is doing all of that being in the spirit of God, and he himself can see that eventually before responding with haste that may be warranted but a push for stillness is better.
Beautifully stated
Debauchery
The “older generation mode of operation” was women’s suffering and enduring abuse. Emotional abuse, FINANCIAL abuse, mental abuse & PHYSICAL abuse. Women have access to resources & education like no other time in history. This means FREEDOM for women. Resources & education were DELIBERATELY kept from women in the not so distant past. So that women had NO OTHER CHOICE than to rely & depend on males for resources. ABSOLUTE ABUSE. Males have romanticized this abusive model of “relationships” and have delusions about having it today. Women want no parts of this patriarchal misogynistic abusive system.
WOW THIS WAS SOOOOOOO GOOD Kings! And PROVES why the word of God says for the "older women to TEACH the younger women." Because there is something they can give that is more valuable than "science and statistics". It's WISDOM! I'm glad y'all brought these mature queens on here.
Thank you so much for this. I needed the positive all around women and men facts!! This was so wholesome and genuine. I’m glad we were able to hear from married women in Healthy marriages because they absolutely do exist.
Boo, decide from yourself not what these old heads says.
It's called wisdom and hopefully you be alive to be their Age!
She's saying that they should live according to his pockets. This way, they'll always be good financially. Her money becomes extra.
Growing up, the male child should learn from his mom how to clean, cook and do household chores. In marriage, it takes two to make it completely work. When there's a compromised relationship, nothing can get in the way of growing, building, communicating.
I’m a spiritual person. But what spiritual means to me is that I have a personal relationship with God. I don’t do anything or make any choices in my life without consulting what God would want me to do. I am always speaking with God in my mind and even on my way to work everyday. I am a more conscious person now because I walk with God in my spirit.
I’m not perfect and I sin everyday, but my day starts and ends with God’s hand in everything that I do (or don’t do).
🎯It's a COVENANT, not a BUSINESS!!!!! Covenant is spiritual and organic... together you learn aspects of God's nature that don't come natural to you. Together, you get to display a clearer picture of God as love. You're speaking truth. Also, you can't wear your woman out and expect her to reach her sexual potential. It's an unreasonable expectation. You'll both end up missing out on the beautiful experience intended for your relationship.💜 These ladies are rich in wisdom. Thank you bringing in someone in my age range to speak on marriage. This is wonderfully real!! Appreciate you all.🎯💜🙏🏽
Divorce reminds men that marriage is definitely also a business, unfortunately
I enjoyed listening to this podcast today. I've been married over thirty years, and I have been a working mom and a stay at home mom, so I have experienced all perspectives of the discussion except divorce.
When you were a working mom, who did the housework and childcare? Did the majority of that work fall on you? Don’t lie, sis, speak the truth.
@bellavega8048 Yes, I did it,but he paid the bills and groceries.There was never a fifty-fifty.If he got home early would cook. Sometimes, he would do the dishes, laundry, or make the bed. I have no complaints!
@@talethiadavison1998 ok fair enough
Totally agree: that goes also for men who don’t want to let go of their female friends
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No ma’am TEACHING is not the less stress job AT ALL…trust me sis
🙏🏽 on the LIVE, I mentioned that I’ve been teaching for 14 years and it’s a VERY selfless profession (bringing work home, communication with families, collaboration with colleagues before and after work hours, etc. ). It’s not what people think it seems looking from the outside. ⚠️
Becoming a new woman is sooo real as you enter mariage and motherhood. The change was hard but so worth it. Fighting the change is where we often go short. The change can be beautiful ❤
That was the biggest takeaway from this discussion. It applies to.men and women...renewed minds lead to new men and women in Christ. That is the sticking point that hangs folks up.
I’m repping from Abuja, naija Nigeria… whooop whoop. This is timely… God bless y’all…
In regard to the 50/50 relationship, here the thing:
1. Times are hard
2. Not every man is an entrepreneur. Not every man has the skills to be one. Some don’t desire to be one.
3. Some women have talents and skills and the desire to work and put them to use.
4. There sometimes is a fear associated from both parties when the man is the sole bread winner- when some men take care of the finances, they abuse the power and feel entitled to do as they please regardless of how it affects their woman. On the other hand, some women take advantage/use men and are only with them because they are being taken care of.
Also, if the relationship dissolves, the woman can end up having nothing.
Very valid points!!!! 💯
50/50 keeps being reduced to finances but there is so much additional relationship labor that is not being taken on equally. These aspects are included in true 50/50 or egalitarian partnerships.
@@AleciaDistin Thank you.
@@Heyu7her3 I agree, and the other things are usually addressed too, but I think that the finances are what people are referring to when the 50/50 relationship is mentioned.
I hear you but…when you find the right man that have the means and can provide 100% for you while also giving you the freedom to do what you want to make money. Everything you said means nothing! If you choose a man after evaluation and he isn’t able to provide and needs to depend on you financially because he isn’t able to take care of himself financially without depending on a woman to help him. You can motivate him to do anything he sets his mind to! But Never settle for less…unless you’re down for working while pregnant and okay with a daycare raising your children 🥲
He’s cherry picking her view points though to have conversation with these ladies which isn’t a fair analysis. He knows exactly what he doing he should of told them watch the episode before the show to give their feedback.
She did the same by not talking about her being abused by her grandmother and mother. But it was only men who abused her in this interview though. She said she went to school for cellular microbiology but didn't disclose she never graduated in her studies, she spoke about being an officer in the military but never exposed the fact she was kicked out of the military, she quoted many studies but never explained that studies aren't truths or facts. See how cherry-picking works on both sides.
SHE A LESBIAN THAT BROKEN HUSH MAM.
Better conversation would be to have princella on the show with these two women
@@rhondasmith1529Better to not have her on the show please! She evades direct questions and isn’t reasonable with her solutions.
@@mdizot364*slow clap*.....Somebody's psying attention.
A teaching job? Low-stress?????? Seriously? 😂😂😂😂. I guess a chemist, a professor, ministry, or entrepreneurship are out of the question careers for "wives." lol.
Y’all keep proving Princella’s point.
A LESBIAN PROVED WHAT POINT
The fact that you’re ignoring 2 successful happy real women to listen to someone hurt and angry is the problem.
@@Iamjuststevelive it’s 2 women out of thousands. So, 2 women won’t convince me that’s the case for most women. Because if most women were happy in marriage the divorce rates would not be more than 50% for first marriages.
Go gaslight someone else.
Exactly
@@shondreajackson9183 lesbian divorce rate is 75%, so…
It's important that parents raise children together but will they?? Men are leaving not women. By in large
Right. And women still thrive after they leave. Some do better. How does the nuclear family help the married single mother?
@@patricejones7905.
We are in spiritual warfare
@36:05 at how to evaluate who will stick it out when things get tough, the reality is NO ONE KNOWS!. There's no guarantee that the either party won't fail each other. What guarantees sustainability in a marriage is consistent, mutual commitment, mutual respect. mutual values. If the toughness consistently comes from one party, divorce becomes inevitable over time. There's no need to fear divorce and losing out if both parties are genuine.
This was such a breath if fresh air after the last live. These ladies have so much wisdom. These are the conversations that need to be had. They’re providing practical solutions.
Thank you for dropping this topic and we need this very much.
Great Show, This is the conversations and the type of communication that men and women need to fix our families and communities, the level of respect and transparency is a wonderful and inspiring sight.
Finally some mature women whose speaking and teaching values about relationships, men and women, families, etc based upon not just on their opinion but based upon Christian principles and through their experience of trial and error. I applaud these ladies 👏🏼👏🏼Glad to have them back on the show ❤
Thank you all for the knowledge & wisdom. It’s inspiring. ❤
I absolutely love and appreciate these two extraordinary women and this conversation. I am a grown man and I greatly appreciate hearing wisdom from wise women.
8:07 Yes ‼️‼️
8:17
Say it again Ms Shirley.
I enjoy this podcast so much
This is about being married to a God Fearing man, that is in his word and prepared put his friends aside, consider u in all things and provide for u and ur earnings are just Xtra.. Now how many of u actually know and are dating a man like this?? Very few most men are far from wanting to give u this life don't pick up their Bible let alone go to church. Love these ladies but thy are not speak about most men in 2024 thy been married since the 90s things done went to hell in a hand basket. Sorry.
Exactly… the whole thing about having FAITH vs just a vision 👀. Choose one + something something “you will be right”. I mean… we now have cars, electricity ⚡️ or can get on an airplane to wherever. Plus, that one car that’s floating around in the space as we speak. Not too long ago, none of those [+ countless others] were… possible + the inventors or those who BELIEVED it is, were consider weird as shit, within their timelines. Sooo… there have definitely been much more weirder things to have FAITH about than finding just ONE man that fits that 👆🏼 category. And, vice versa. Right? Or is it just me? 🤔🤷🏼♀️😂 But, on the side note… JUST IN CASE shit don’t work out + you don’t find him or her… BECOME that type of person you’re searching for [in others] in the process. Just in case. 🙏🏼
I’m just imagining women in church waiting for a God fearing man to show up with a plan for her life. Going from being hopeful in the 20’s. Looking at the doors of the church opening and hoping that her handsome hardworking single man will walk through the doors. Then she’s in her 30’s and the sisters in the church are setting her up with Deacon LeRoy’s nephew who just found the Lord but he still smokes weed everyday. Seriously y’all this is not reality at all. I’ve dipped in and out of churches over the years in my life. First of all, I got the cold shoulder because, especially when younger, I was attractive I bring that up only to say women like the women on this panel looked at me as a threat. Even in large churches there are only a handful of men in general. Of course some men do go to church specifically to meet vulnerable women.
Speaking practically it’s impossible to survive on one income. So both the husband and wife will have to work. A cheap home is $400,000+ But you also have to factor in a safe neighborhood, great schools, and other expenses. So if you make great money your home will costs $650,000 and you still may have to pay for private school because public schools are awful. These women are oversimplifying marriage. Suggesting that women should submit to a man’s plan. When I was married I promise you I was the mastermind behind the financial gains in my marriage. My ex husband was successful in his career but not as skilled at big picture and executing plans as I am. I helped to build our wealth.
This idea that marriage will have bad times is sad. It’s like playing the lottery. Hoping you picked the right numbers for a nice payout. Living with a person who is unpleasant in any regard is extremely stressful. A person has up a wall. A person who lies by omission. A person with a temper. A person who entertains too much or never wants company. A moderate to heavy drinker. A person who lacks patience and parenting skills. If it’s a second marriage kids and ex spouse issues. All of these added stresses over time will likely cause health issues. Not to mention situations that are abusive. You should never get into a relationship with the understanding that there will be bad times.
I wish everyone well in the new year 2024. Follow your gut and intuition. Knowing what I know now, I’m leaning strongly towards disrupting the patriarchy. Too many men are not capable of being head of a loving and respectful household. I enjoy Princella’s discussions. She is a big picture person. The current state of society needs fixing and particularly in the USA. Folks are misunderstanding Princella and misquoting her. Of course I don’t agree with everything she says. That would be cult like and unhealthy. I do understand why she says a lot of what she says and I also understand why folks believe some of her thoughts are extreme. In the end, it’s about safety both physically and mentally for women. I’ve seen women from all walks of life suffer in marriages. I did to a certain extent. The stress definitely affected my health. The male ego can be fragile and men can be extremely defensive. I recently spoke to an old friend who is a Dr and she had to whisper on the phone and be on the lookout for her husband catching her on the phone with friends. His family treated her horribly. It was heartbreaking. You guessed it, she is extremely devoted to the church. He attends out of obligation.
Hope this post helps.
Thank you 🙏🏾
I think the concept of letting go of or altering a "friend " relationship is challenging because, that isn't already their value system. Also it depends on HOW that request is being communicated and WHY! Because if its being requested from a toxic place then leave the whole relationship. If your values are aligned it doesn't even have to be said and your friends if their values are the same will also understand and fall back IF they see that your CHARACTER is worthy of trusting you with their friends heart and safety. A person who is pretending to be of good character and tries to isolate you will play along long enough to get you separated. If you have friends around that they know will check in regularly they won't last. So it's very important to not just isolate. Create healthy boundaries for sure. But never totally detach. Community is necessary literally for your life.
I’m understanding everyone has mental, emotional, physical, spiritual and financial needs and deal breakers. Agreeing on them up front creates the opportunity to have a fulfilling marriage.
If no agreements were made up front, today’s the perfect day to do so.
If not that’s great information to make decisions and future plans.
LOL WHY did the concept of….i will only cook for you ONCE A WEEK never cross my mind before!?!? 😅😂🤦🏽♀️.
Don't get a teachers job, its not some calm,peaceful,or stress-free place. We are the most stressed,undeserved and overworked
I absolutely adore these ladies!! Helped me a lot this morning! ❤
Thank you mama's. We need your wisdom in this age of I know everything.. We are foolish to even think that we can learn this on our own.
Bet they won't talk to Princella about it.
I hope she reviews this! They thought they ate too by PROVING her right once again! All anecdotal evidence 😂
It’s so difficult truly impossible to be with a guy that is still carrying weight from previous relationships especially when he’s making you carry their cross! To be honest had I not left it definitely would’ve broken me!, I was close
I absolutely loved this conversation. My elders are simply out of touch with the current times. Miss me.
Actually their not because it's been 28 and 25 years for this ladies not all women have to be walked on to stay married it's great to say that if you focus on God's standards and the man picks a woman with God's traits and not be petty it can work this is about the two right people who knows they are one not a I want what I want relationship.
Viewing from H-Town!! Houston, Texas.❤
Married couples do have issues but with God you can make your marriage work. I have been married 37 years and sometimes you don’t like him but love him for who he is.
Sounds horrible
@@bellavega8048 it’s not horrible 😂trust me maybe you have not dated the right person yet 🙏🏾
@@carolynlong8701it works for you.
But reality is, many married couples are simply roommates. Half are headed for divorce and some are more like prisons.
Yes, finding the right person is one big aspect, but painting a rosy picture when so many are in couples therapy isn’t what is needed. What is needed is how to vet for the right partner, and how to see red flags of your marriage headed for divorce before it gets there and how to fix it with your partner.
Bless your heart!
This was an excellent live show. I am a regular listener of the business with the brother Jason Black. I feel he is the most innovative, thought-provoking man on the Internet as a pertains to the dynamics between men and women. Today I think I found a new show to my surprise that’s disseminating information on that level
1:05:34 no, she’s not cooking for him unless he’s doing HUSBAND DUTIES!! Which is him showing he has the capacity to provide and protect for her. That he knows how to handle her emotions that can vary and how he handles it to build her, teach her.
Sounds kinda like raising a child…ijs
Love watching your videos!! All videos are eye openers. Love from Adelaide Australia!!!
Hello watching the replay, and I’m from Waxahachie Texas, and I love your show so informative; And I’m 54 years old.
These ladies proved everything P said .. I guess it’s ok to feel hurt by ur partner because we be making it deeper then what it is .. P said women take on a lot with these men..
The point is sometimes people hurt each other. Neither men nor women act perfectly in any relationship. My issue is with people who make blanket statements like men are all evil and women are all saints. That's just absurd.
@@keptbygrace6221 naw women stupid and dumb down .. women are taught to forgive men and except behaviors .. that’s why she she said sometimes the hurt really Dnt b that deep .. the fact that y’all believe being hurt is normal is weird.. and Princella never said women are saints.. she always saying we dumb and doped up on penis juice.. which u can look around with UR OWN EYES and see that .. women Dnt learn from there mistakes they repeat them and be mad they got the same results.. women need to date themselves and walk in there purpose .. and stop giving themselves to this men
@@keptbygrace6221these women that follow princella are BROKEN WOMEN.
This interview is a must watch for the current generation
What's good for some is not good for all. Find out what works for your relationship and do that. I don't see where I need to stop being myself to keep my husband happy. He married me! I had to adjust, but I never stopped being myself. There is no way I would add all my money to the pot. I will not give up my single friends to make him happy. I will not be so heavenly minded that I'm no earthly good!
I am married (13 years), I try to walk in love, I try to be understanding, and I try to be the best wife & mother I can be.
I will say we hear what you are saying but what does your husband say? Does he share your views? Do you even care what he thinks? Have a conversation with him.
@@lesliesoloman5145 After 13 years of marriage, he is in complete agreement. We are still very much in love which is more than I can say for many married couples. There are many different kinds of people in this world, meaning there are many different forms of marriage. It is presumptuous to say that one size should fit all.
I am fortunate to have found my match. He is the head of our house, and he doesn't control me. We consider each other. We choose love everyday.
This reply seems to be without love, kindness, or a seeking of understanding. This is what the world is missing and why things are falling apart. Jesus commandment was to love. Christianity forgot this and should apply the commandment in every aspect of life.
This sounds better than these struggle love marriages where the woman is encouraged to endure all these abuses from a male.
I’ve been telling men to watch your show.
Thank you so much for sharing ❤❤❤
The *only* thing Mrs. SB said that I take issue with is her suggesting the wife take a teaching job due to the "low stress". Teaching is STRESSFULL!!! Beyond that, I was continuously in awe of the practical wisdom shared by these women. Their message was so clear: "do it God's way, and you will find fulfillment". Plain and simple. Even doing it God's way is full of challenges, but operating outside of God's will is what brought on all the things that we're arguing about.
Men jobs are stressful and physical and dangerous, we get no cookies on pay day only the money we risk our life for !! Two sides to a coin ,I worked at a pipe company and there are porters that only swept the floor for 12 hours every one would say that they wish they had that job because it seems easy ! One day pipe operation shutdown, Everybody had to get a broom and swept for hour now every one got the chance to see how hard it was to day to a job that seem easy until you are in that position!!!
The best way to avoid divorce... is to not be married. Second is to be an upstanding & safe spouse. But nothing is guaranteed.
I resonate with the wives' expressions on marriage as a profound spiritual union. It's more than a 50/50 partnership; it's a wholehearted commitment. Aligning spiritually, allowing God to transform desires, and shifting mindset are key.
For single women seeking a marriage-minded approach, it involves a conscious shift in perspective, aligning desires with spiritual values, and letting God guide towards marital commitment. I am living in this truth.
Tysean and Ryan, your dedication to purpose is evident in your success. Heartfelt gratitude for answering your call and positively impacting your community! 💎💖🙏🏽
I’m married but single
What’s stopping you from cutting ties ? If it’s too private to share I understand.
Why do you describe yourself that way?
If he's not beating you or abusing substances, wait until the kids are up and out to leave (my 2 cents as a child of divorce 😔)
@@keptbygrace6221They need to get legal advice and therapy advice, etc, and exhaust all efforts . If that doesn't work, then get the divorce. As someone who was involved with a person who's parents remained in a toxic marriage far too many years "to wait until the kids go to college" he stated that his parents should've never gotten married. He wished they'd divorced when he was a child because it would've saved him years of therapy
@@keptbygrace6221 many children whose parents stayed together in an antagonistic relationship wish their parents separated
This is why i love when you have wisdom in the room.
Ty you look very nice today 😎and love the married women ❤with lots of experience 👏🏾👏🏾
I just don’t understand if we both are being led by the Lord why does marriage have to be so hard? I understand we are 2 imperfect people, however I just don’t think it should be that hard in my opinion. Get Dr RA Vernon about marriage.
It is not that hard. People make things more complicated than they have to be. Pick your battles and choose wisely, and I say this as a married woman of 17 years.
Pimpin Ken taught y’all A LOT!!!
A part of the problem with this conversation is that the men think they are a prize and women need to prove to them that they should choose them as a wife instead of preparing to be a husband and presenting himself ready to win her over.
If he's the cream of the crop then he is the prize. Especially if he brings structure, stability, finance and protection. You just bring EGO based on your comment.
@@antonionewgate3240 that's your opinion just as mine is mine.
Enjoyed this episode. Great content, as usual. Viewing from H-Town. 💙🤘🏾