The Dallas connection was a reference to where Vincent was spending time over the 1957 holiday season. Incredibly, he was also a Fender endorser. The Strat he was barely familiar with in this clip was the one played at that time by Johnny Meeks, a blonde with gold hardware " Mary Kaye" model, rare even for 1957 much less now. They also had a matching Precision Bass with Fender Twin and Bassman amps. To see the band live with that equipment, look for their "Town Hall Party" postings elsewhere on YT.
You would think their would be more decent footage of such a icon of America's 50s Rock n Roll.Gene Vincent along with Eddie Cochran were two of the greats of 50s music.
Hi bellgardens53 It was quite a few years back now but I was amazed to find Gene never had a No.1 in UK Infact he never had a Top Ten entry His highest in UK was No. 16 For the much loved artist he was & still is after all these years it is an incredible statistic. My own personal opinion is Woman Love being banned from air play did not help. But at the end of the Day who cares He is in top 5 alongside Elvis & Roy the Voice Jerry Lee. But like Elvis vast range in songs The Forever Teddyboy
Hi 1950s Teddyboy. I second what you write. Another thing that have similarities like this is that Chuck never had a # 1 before the corny singalong, 'My Ding A Ling' in the late '60s or early '70s. Shit go sometimes to the top but we know that Gene is still there and a legend in his own true right.
Actually, to be a success singer meant to be recorded by RCA or Columbia, both record companies were parts of system. Gene Vincet was much wild for puritan America.
Agree One of The Best......... But have never managed to find a reason why he never had a No.1 in UK.......... Infact Gene Vincent never had a Top Ten Hit in UK.... Incredible but highest ever I think was No. 16 in Top Twenty
The 17th of April is the 50th anniversary of Genes best friend Eddie Cochran,s death in a car crash that also injured Gene remember and play their music all day.
And not forgetting that Pat Boone paved the way for black artists to enter the pop charts.He was actually the FIRST Rock Star to hit the charts-nearly a year before Elvis (Bill Haley is a group) Time Boone was in the Hall of Fame
I'm looking for 3 Vincent songs and can't find them here on you tube. Can anyone post it? It's "Be Bop Boogie Boy", October 16, '58. "Who's Pushing Your Swing" October 17, '58. "Vincents Blues" October 21, '58. The 2 first is in my opinion the most incredible rockers I know. The 3d is more bluesy though I forgot how it sounds now. Johnny Meeks play lead gtr on all and they are recorded at the Capitol Tower. I have them all in a LP box of 4 records called "Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps...cont
Tuesday,12/17/57. From one of three extant AB kinescopes that were recorded that week. For whatever reason, Clark and Gene did not get along and this is his FINAL and only NETWORK AB appearance. In the "interview" segment, Clark does refer to a previous local only WFIL TV "Bandstand" appearance probably from sometime in 1956. As one can see from the opening, Vincent was nearly unable to "mime" the guitar playing and effectively ruined whatever establishing shot the director was going for, orange jumpsuit and "Mary Kaye" Fender Stratocaster nonwithstanding.
Hard to believe those daily kinescopes made each day were all destroyed. Makes you wonder what happened to them when Channel 6 (Phila.) vacated the building American Bandstand originated from, February 1964.
@@tomsayen9295 Clark had a controlling interest in the show early on outside of WFIL. That said, he claims to have trashed all the films on his move to LA. Until the archives are fully documented, it is unclear what may still exist of any pre 1963 episodes.
@@pjriverdale8461 I have a feeling they will never see the light of day even if they exist at Dick Clark productions. I did obtain the 12.18.57 episode from video beat.
@@tomsayen9295 This is where it gets complicated. I have posted variants of the following before- Up until the advent of home videotaping, c.late 1970's, Clarks anniversary shows had a fair amount of old footage. This goes back at least to the 15th anniversary AB show which ran in 1967. Up to the 25th anniversary show which was a two hour ABC Special, he was still including old footage. I have an off air AUDIO ONLY recording of that show and there is stuff that then "disappeared" by the time he did the "33and1/3rd Anniversary" special later in the 1980's, well into the home videotape era. Clark made mention that nearly ALL of the AB footage was "lost" and filled time with contemporary interviews of old dancers and stars. Boring. He then marketed a "Best of Bandstand" videotape which used WFIL era tape footage and a WFIL Station ID which is seen on the 12/18/57 film. The rest of the tape is performances from his Saturday Night Show which was available via the DC Media Archive as performance clips only. Some internet sellers have found complete Saturday Night Show episodes and offer them complete without commercials ( likely AFRTS rebroadcasts). Also, on YT, one can see yet another AB anniversary clip, c.1968 where he does a split screen of "The Stroll" from 1958 with intro and dancer footage and the 1968 dancers failing to figure out how to do it. Once Clark figured out that his old footage could be monetized, he never showed anything again. The Archive is promoted as the largest collection of musical performances in the world. Until researchers can totally document what exists and what does not, future historians will not be able to visually share much of the formative years of Rock music.
cont...Rock´'n'Roll Legend". It's a french edition. With this one and all the reissues of Vincent's original LPs from the '50s and early '60s I think I have the lionpart of what he recorded during that time. Another thing is that I, in the beginning had it hard to understand the greatness of Cliff Gallup as I thought he was just picking a bit like country or Chet Atkins. I liked more the driving beat of Johnny Meeks ( and Howard Reed ). But that was then. Can you get these 3 songs anneesvinyl?
Gene could play the guitar. If you look at the video he is clearly making the A D & E chord shapes. Also the last recordings that Gene did where in the living room of Ronnie Wiser (Rollin Rock records) and these where recorded on a 4 track reel to reel with just Gene on guitar. They where later overdubbed after his death. I guess the reason for not using a guitar more was he always had problems with his leg, and balance and putting weight on it would have been painful.
haaaaa yeah and he rocked the shit out of all hell all the time. haaaaa its hard to keep it up when yer huggin the floor to keep from spinnin off the earth after too much drugs n booooze hhahaha... take it from...also he aint playin that gitar that yer hearin neither, folks.
to ManMartin: yeah, it was common for artists to lip sync back then.....in fact groups like "The Dave Clark 5" always lip sync'd on TV. If nothing else it saved the singers voice from getting raw and hoarse especially if they were doing live shows in between TV shows
Perhaps, but that doesn't mean he deserves any less to be dragged behind a truck. The man's sole purpose in life was to get rich, no matter whose back he stood upon. The blame also lies, in part, with Elvis, Jerry Lee, Little Richard, and Chuck Berry.
Some possible reasons for Genes erratic single sales: * Capitol was one of the few labels NOT indulged in the payola and many discjockeys more or less blacklisted his output * Gene had argued w/Dick Clark, then the most influental person in the entire american rock scene. Not good * from, let say '58 the the US rock arena was being dominated by clean cut/the boy-next-door-types...and Gene, "thuggish" drunk and lewd" hardly qualified. He also got some bad material in the beginning...
I'm a huge fan of Gene, but he should not be in this damn show, i hate "American Bandstand" because the singers were "lip-synced", and the whole show was just a commercial joke for parents(and some teenagers too). The "Ed Sullivan Show" is much better!
babyblueLEGEND Thanks for commenting! Yes i can imagine that these amazing guys must have hated Clarks style (Dick Clark = Pat Boone), we are lucky that Elvis not appeared at this joke called "show". Just see how Clark destroyed Eddie Cochrans performance of "C'mon Everybody" with that damn Lip-sync! It just doesn't work!
There is no early Bandstand clips either, especially ones from the 1950's up to 1963 when the show was in Philly. The clips on YT are ones from the Beechnut show. What happened?
Very true comments. However, if not for such commercial and disdainful mechanisms like Bandstand, juke box rackets, Alan Freed's movies, and payola radio, we might have even less footage. Moreover, it is highly likely Gene would have not been as well known back then, especially in countries where he finally got the respect he deserved like the UK, and generally all over the European Continent.
so his sales declined after 'Lula. Capitol must carry the can for Vincent's sharp decline. Capitol, in common with other labels, had no experience in rockn'roll, but Vincent's ruin was caused mostly by Capitol's lack of intution. Compare Elvis first album with Gene's first. If Elvis tackles a non original, it's a suitable song...but Gene was made to do stuff like 'Peg O´My Heart' and 'Jezebel'.
Great guitar playing awesome singing thanks for sharing Gene Vincent
Gene, Eddie Cochran, Buddy Holly and Johnny Burnette paved way for all the great music we have today! Bless em!
The Dallas connection was a reference to where Vincent was spending time over the 1957 holiday season.
Incredibly, he was also a Fender endorser. The Strat he was barely familiar with in this clip was the one played at that time by Johnny Meeks, a blonde with gold hardware " Mary Kaye" model, rare even for 1957 much less now.
They also had a matching Precision Bass with Fender Twin and Bassman amps.
To see the band live with that equipment, look for their "Town Hall Party" postings elsewhere on YT.
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!💗🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺
Gene Vincent is a legend!... way before fame hit the likes of Bob Dylan The Bealtes,Jimi Hendrix etc. Love em' all the same
Thank You for this wonderful archive !
You would think their would be more decent footage of such a icon of America's 50s Rock n Roll.Gene Vincent along with Eddie Cochran were two of the greats of 50s music.
The Fender Stratocaster ... a work of art!
Hi bellgardens53
It was quite a few years back now but I was amazed to find Gene never had a No.1 in UK
Infact he never had a Top Ten entry
His highest in UK was No. 16
For the much loved artist he was & still is after all these years it is an incredible statistic.
My own personal opinion is Woman Love being banned from air play did not help.
But at the end of the Day who cares
He is in top 5 alongside Elvis & Roy the Voice
Jerry Lee. But like Elvis vast range in songs
The Forever Teddyboy
I want that Strat!!!!!!!
57 Blonde Fender Strat - Worth about $80,000 today - if it was still original and in tact.
Well put.
Cliff Gallup was also a major influence for Jeff Beck. Jeff has a great album called "Crazy Legs" that is a tribute to Gene Vincent and Cliff Gallup
What a doll!
Hi 1950s Teddyboy. I second what you write. Another thing that have similarities like this is that Chuck never had a # 1 before the corny singalong, 'My Ding A Ling' in the late '60s or early '70s. Shit go sometimes to the top but we know that Gene is still there and a legend in his own true right.
Actually, to be a success singer meant to be recorded by RCA or Columbia, both record companies were parts of system. Gene Vincet was much wild for puritan America.
Nice info
Agree One of The Best......... But have never managed to find a reason why he never had a No.1 in UK.......... Infact Gene Vincent never had a Top Ten Hit in UK.... Incredible but highest ever I think was No. 16 in Top Twenty
Will ya look at Dick Clark! My god, it't been too long since this has been on tv.
nice playback
The 17th of April is the 50th anniversary of Genes best friend Eddie Cochran,s death in a car crash that also injured Gene remember and play their music all day.
Gene Vincent's first guitarist was the inspiration for Brian Setzer. I think his name was Cliff Gallup.
And not forgetting that Pat Boone paved the way for black artists to enter the pop charts.He was actually the FIRST Rock Star to hit the charts-nearly a year before Elvis
(Bill Haley is a group)
Time Boone was in the Hall of Fame
you are kidding , boone aint r n r ffs
Any footage is good.......shame not more of Eddie ?!
Right on tunenito! I'm bettin' that's a '55 or '56 strat. Wonder where it is now?
Man, what a 'way out' band! Totally out of the picture, jack.
Gene wasn't from Dallas Tx, he was from the Norfolk Virginia area now Virginia Beach....
Wow this is real old. But let's dance
I'm looking for 3 Vincent songs and can't find them here on you tube. Can anyone post it? It's "Be Bop Boogie Boy", October 16, '58. "Who's Pushing Your Swing" October 17, '58. "Vincents Blues" October 21, '58. The 2 first is in my opinion the most incredible rockers I know. The 3d is more bluesy though I forgot how it sounds now. Johnny Meeks play lead gtr on all and they are recorded at the Capitol Tower. I have them all in a LP box of 4 records called "Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps...cont
Tuesday,12/17/57. From one of three extant AB kinescopes that were recorded that week.
For whatever reason, Clark and Gene did not get along and this is his FINAL and only NETWORK AB appearance.
In the "interview" segment,
Clark does refer to a previous local only WFIL TV "Bandstand" appearance probably from sometime in 1956.
As one can see from the opening, Vincent was nearly unable to "mime" the guitar playing and effectively ruined whatever establishing shot the director was going for, orange jumpsuit and "Mary Kaye" Fender Stratocaster nonwithstanding.
Hard to believe those daily kinescopes made each day were all destroyed. Makes you wonder what happened to them when Channel 6 (Phila.) vacated the building American Bandstand originated from, February 1964.
@@tomsayen9295 Clark had a controlling interest in the show early on outside of WFIL. That said, he claims to have trashed all the films on his move to LA.
Until the archives are fully documented, it is unclear what may still exist of any pre 1963 episodes.
@@pjriverdale8461 I have a feeling they will never see the light of day even if they exist at Dick Clark productions. I did obtain the 12.18.57 episode from video beat.
@@tomsayen9295 This is where it gets complicated. I have posted variants of the following before-
Up until the advent of home videotaping, c.late 1970's, Clarks anniversary shows had a fair amount of old footage. This goes back at least to the 15th anniversary AB show which ran in 1967.
Up to the 25th anniversary show which was a two hour ABC Special,
he was still including old footage.
I have an off air AUDIO ONLY recording of that show and there is stuff that then "disappeared" by the time he did the "33and1/3rd Anniversary" special later in the 1980's, well into the home videotape era.
Clark made mention that nearly ALL of the AB footage was "lost" and filled time with contemporary interviews of old dancers and stars. Boring.
He then marketed a "Best of Bandstand" videotape which used WFIL era tape footage and a WFIL Station ID which is seen on the 12/18/57 film.
The rest of the tape is performances from his Saturday Night Show which was available via the DC Media Archive as performance clips only.
Some internet sellers have found complete Saturday Night Show episodes and offer them complete without commercials ( likely AFRTS rebroadcasts).
Also, on YT, one can see yet another AB anniversary clip, c.1968 where he does a split screen of "The Stroll" from 1958 with intro and dancer footage and the 1968 dancers failing to figure out how to do it.
Once Clark figured out that his old footage could be monetized, he never showed anything again.
The Archive is promoted as the largest collection of musical performances in the world.
Until researchers can totally document what exists and what does not, future historians will not be able to visually share much of the formative years of Rock music.
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cont...Rock´'n'Roll Legend". It's a french edition. With this one and all the reissues of Vincent's original LPs from the '50s and early '60s I think I have the lionpart of what he recorded during that time. Another thing is that I, in the beginning had it hard to understand the greatness of Cliff Gallup as I thought he was just picking a bit like country or Chet Atkins. I liked more the driving beat of Johnny Meeks ( and Howard Reed ). But that was then. Can you get these 3 songs anneesvinyl?
No, they could also do playback in the 50's.
ok Gene! Yeah Eh!
Gene could play the guitar. If you look at the video he is clearly making the A D & E chord shapes. Also the last recordings that Gene did where in the living room of Ronnie Wiser (Rollin Rock records) and these where recorded on a 4 track reel to reel with just Gene on guitar. They where later overdubbed after his death. I guess the reason for not using a guitar more was he always had problems with his leg, and balance and putting weight on it would have been painful.
haaaaa yeah and he rocked the shit out of all hell all the time. haaaaa its hard to keep it up when yer huggin the floor to keep from spinnin off the earth after too much drugs n booooze hhahaha...
take it from...also he aint playin that gitar that yer hearin neither, folks.
to ManMartin: yeah, it was common for artists to lip sync back then.....in fact groups like "The Dave Clark 5" always lip sync'd on TV. If nothing else it saved the singers voice from getting raw and hoarse especially if they were doing live shows in between TV shows
not on this, the pickers are Johnny Meeks lead Buck Owens Rhythm and Bobby Jones on bass
@bobluman4 just about everyone on 50s tv was lipsinking actually the same applies to today as well!
Cool!! but where is the guitar cable? rsrs :s
He died at the end of the 60s or beginning of the 70s. Spelling erRors ;-)
Perhaps, but that doesn't mean he deserves any less to be dragged behind a truck. The man's sole purpose in life was to get rich, no matter whose back he stood upon.
The blame also lies, in part, with Elvis, Jerry Lee, Little Richard, and Chuck Berry.
I wonder why the dont let vincent to plug the strat...
Gene Vincent not lead guitar,Joe meek
He died in 1971 of a ruptured stomach ulcer.
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Some possible reasons for Genes erratic single sales:
* Capitol was one of the few labels NOT indulged in the payola and many discjockeys more or less blacklisted his output
* Gene had argued w/Dick Clark, then the most influental person in the entire american rock scene. Not good
* from, let say '58 the the US rock arena was being dominated by clean cut/the boy-next-door-types...and Gene, "thuggish" drunk and lewd" hardly qualified. He also got some bad material in the beginning...
I'm a huge fan of Gene, but he should not be in this damn show, i hate "American Bandstand" because the singers were "lip-synced", and the whole show was just a commercial joke for parents(and some teenagers too). The "Ed Sullivan Show" is much better!
Viktor Sten Too true, in addition Clark was an ass according to both Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley.
babyblueLEGEND Thanks for commenting! Yes i can imagine that these amazing guys must have hated Clarks style (Dick Clark = Pat Boone), we are lucky that Elvis not appeared at this joke called "show". Just see how Clark destroyed Eddie Cochrans performance of "C'mon Everybody" with that damn Lip-sync! It just doesn't work!
There is no early Bandstand clips either, especially ones from the 1950's up to 1963 when the show was in Philly. The clips on YT are ones from the Beechnut show. What happened?
Very true comments. However, if not for such commercial and disdainful mechanisms like Bandstand, juke box rackets, Alan Freed's movies, and payola radio, we might have even less footage. Moreover, it is highly likely Gene would have not been as well known back then, especially in countries where he finally got the respect he deserved like the UK, and generally all over the European Continent.
so his sales declined after 'Lula. Capitol must carry the can for Vincent's sharp decline. Capitol, in common with other labels, had no experience in rockn'roll, but Vincent's ruin was caused mostly by Capitol's lack of intution. Compare Elvis first album with Gene's first. If Elvis tackles a non original, it's a suitable song...but Gene was made to do stuff like 'Peg O´My Heart' and 'Jezebel'.
play back incertain,Gene aurait dù s'entrainer et laisser la guitare au vestiaire;toujours aussi timide dans les interviews(yes sir,no sir).
TERRIBLE....!!!!!