Amazingly enough I like the Move. Feels like the hardware version of Ableton Note. Though I don't fully understand who it's for. The limitations might be the some of it's strengths? And I do think the versatility like controller mode for Live feature is a cool one as well as the portability. Wonder if the battery is user-replaceable though. Hopefully they could implement controller mode on the Note app at some point. I am curious to see how Note & Move develops
Should be great for this, although a bit too expensive. But Drift is included and is great for bass and I believe you can transfer more presets from the computer.
my first keyboard was the eg-101 by korg. it also had that gestural d-beam controller that enamoured me as a kid. wish i got the emx instead tho, that would have gotten me into production instead of just fiddling around haha
People should see Ableton Move for what it is, a sketching device, not a stripped-down production studio. More like Ableton Note standalone, not Push standalone. And for that simplicity, immediacy, and ease of use is actually a must. So I'm actually looking forward to it, although 4 tracks seems a bit severe limitation. But then again, Move offers workarounds for it.
I bought the Move immediately after launch today and am very excited for the delivery. I don't agree with most of the blind hate towards the device the past week, people just salty that they didn't get their 3k USD motorized fader mixer they imagined into their heads. I've been wanting a groovebox that can export ableton projects along the lines of the circuit (a family member owns one and I enjoyed my time with it goofing around) and the pricing of the Move is much more doable for someone on my income than 4x the price for the standalone push (which is also just way too big and bulky for even my desktop and looks like an absolute pain to lug around). I think Ableton is doing what they need to do in their hardware line, I think the hybrid workflow is the future of their hardware and while the push 3 didn't sell like crazy a big part of that is in the literal doubling of price (+1k eur/USD) for a low end nuc board and a battery and heatsink from the already more expensive controller than push 2. Why do people think a boutique mixer product that costs a bunch of money for a hyper specific pro audience is likely to be more of a success in the current market than what the Move ended up being IDK lol. 🤣 And the people saying why not just buy a second hand push 2 spamming reddit, I can't even fathom a single response as to how that is a valid argument against a device that is not just a midi controller.
I do think people are overly negative, but some of the criticism is justified. Definitely agree about the price of Push, Ableton products are generally expensive, it's a premium brand.
Totally agree. Like Steve jobs said about the iPad - you don’t you need it yet.😂 Bought mine yesterday. Only gripe is 4 tracks and not 8. I also don’t like the reverse layout of the session view. Should be the same as push to keep workflow the same on all devices.
Like you, i always pay attention to the people in the ads. The ads prey upon the lifestyle fantasy of the target market. I'm not sure how many impeccably hip, urban, 20-something "creatives" have 500$ for a Note Standalone. Being a push-mini controller addsvalue, but I bet yamahas seqtrak is a much better groovebox.
Yup that seems to be the target audience. Funny you mentioned the Seqtrack - I was interested in it until I saw the really bad reviews. It was one of Bad Gear's most critical reviews if I remember correctly.
Arctic fox did a sub-500$ comparison and liked the seqtrak, but ended up getting a polyend. I think it's hard to avoid frustration under $650 (mv-1, M8, polyends, etc). But now the old polyend play (not plus, no synth) is 500 now though. I await your review of this. Like teenage engineering products, it looks like a 3D render come to life. I dont trust the people who got this early.
Basically it's an Ableton controller... with battery and some samples. The lack of regular midi out (the port that every tiny Roland toy have) kinda says it all... Nobody cared. Just use it on the go and then go back to laptop with Ableton. This is the use case and that's about it. Cool stuff but for very specific "i am not a hipster" crowd.
Just another gear for people to make unfinished 8 bar loops .. I’m sure there are some gurus that will make great things with this .. but 99 % will make 8 bar loops times 4 tracks ,, 4 tracks and that midget screen is just so underwhelming..
Sure, yeah but most people buying this type of machines are hobbyists anyway. If it wasn't for them the market would be dramatically smaller with much fewer choices.
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thanks man for these news! a good format! I liked to watch it much more than the news on TV...😄😄
Haha, thanks man! It's something new I'm trying on the channel, so I really appreciate the feedback.
Im more about making music lying down on the couch then going to a park or on a train 😂
This makes more sense for sure
Amazingly enough I like the Move. Feels like the hardware version of Ableton Note. Though I don't fully understand who it's for. The limitations might be the some of it's strengths? And I do think the versatility like controller mode for Live feature is a cool one as well as the portability. Wonder if the battery is user-replaceable though. Hopefully they could implement controller mode on the Note app at some point. I am curious to see how Note & Move develops
Man, good point, I was thinking about the battery too. At some point it will degrade, so I really hope it's easy to replace.
controller mode for note - also my wish!
I'll be waiting for your review of this device
Thank you, can't wait to do it!
I am very tempted buy the Move as a standalone synth bass machine.
Should be great for this, although a bit too expensive. But Drift is included and is great for bass and I believe you can transfer more presets from the computer.
@@LowHeatBeats I have plenty of presets that I love. Hopefully you can transfer them!
my first keyboard was the eg-101 by korg. it also had that gestural d-beam controller that enamoured me as a kid. wish i got the emx instead tho, that would have gotten me into production instead of just fiddling around haha
Haha, so they had it even on a home keyboard with built-in speakers? Amazing.
People should see Ableton Move for what it is, a sketching device, not a stripped-down production studio. More like Ableton Note standalone, not Push standalone. And for that simplicity, immediacy, and ease of use is actually a must. So I'm actually looking forward to it, although 4 tracks seems a bit severe limitation. But then again, Move offers workarounds for it.
Fair enough!
The drum racks are ostensibly 16 tracks in one - each pad has effects and volume control.
@@CodyAvantbut monophonic tracks, or can you play chords on a melodic sample off a pad?
I bought the Move immediately after launch today and am very excited for the delivery.
I don't agree with most of the blind hate towards the device the past week, people just salty that they didn't get their 3k USD motorized fader mixer they imagined into their heads. I've been wanting a groovebox that can export ableton projects along the lines of the circuit (a family member owns one and I enjoyed my time with it goofing around) and the pricing of the Move is much more doable for someone on my income than 4x the price for the standalone push (which is also just way too big and bulky for even my desktop and looks like an absolute pain to lug around).
I think Ableton is doing what they need to do in their hardware line, I think the hybrid workflow is the future of their hardware and while the push 3 didn't sell like crazy a big part of that is in the literal doubling of price (+1k eur/USD) for a low end nuc board and a battery and heatsink from the already more expensive controller than push 2. Why do people think a boutique mixer product that costs a bunch of money for a hyper specific pro audience is likely to be more of a success in the current market than what the Move ended up being IDK lol. 🤣
And the people saying why not just buy a second hand push 2 spamming reddit, I can't even fathom a single response as to how that is a valid argument against a device that is not just a midi controller.
I do think people are overly negative, but some of the criticism is justified. Definitely agree about the price of Push, Ableton products are generally expensive, it's a premium brand.
Totally agree. Like Steve jobs said about the iPad - you don’t you need it yet.😂
Bought mine yesterday. Only gripe is 4 tracks and not 8. I also don’t like the reverse layout of the session view. Should be the same as push to keep workflow the same on all devices.
Like you, i always pay attention to the people in the ads. The ads prey upon the lifestyle fantasy of the target market. I'm not sure how many impeccably hip, urban, 20-something "creatives" have 500$ for a Note Standalone. Being a push-mini controller addsvalue, but I bet yamahas seqtrak is a much better groovebox.
Yup that seems to be the target audience. Funny you mentioned the Seqtrack - I was interested in it until I saw the really bad reviews. It was one of Bad Gear's most critical reviews if I remember correctly.
Arctic fox did a sub-500$ comparison and liked the seqtrak, but ended up getting a polyend. I think it's hard to avoid frustration under $650 (mv-1, M8, polyends, etc). But now the old polyend play (not plus, no synth) is 500 now though.
I await your review of this. Like teenage engineering products, it looks like a 3D render come to life. I dont trust the people who got this early.
Basically it's an Ableton controller... with battery and some samples.
The lack of regular midi out (the port that every tiny Roland toy have) kinda says it all... Nobody cared.
Just use it on the go and then go back to laptop with Ableton. This is the use case and that's about it.
Cool stuff but for very specific "i am not a hipster" crowd.
Bestmaking outside is a gimmick. I agree it’s not as a great a use case as they try and make it.
I wish they just made a 16 pad with a mpc look
That’s what I was hoping this would be tbh
@@LowHeatBeats right
450 seems a lot for strip down software and hardware already exist and put a 8 year old processor inside
That's fair. The ARM CPU it uses is indeed from 2016.
You know an instrument is more than the specs, yeah?
@@milk_bath That's very true as well
Just another gear for people to make unfinished 8 bar loops .. I’m sure there are some gurus that will make great things with this .. but 99 % will make 8 bar loops times 4 tracks ,, 4 tracks and that midget screen is just so underwhelming..
Sure, yeah but most people buying this type of machines are hobbyists anyway. If it wasn't for them the market would be dramatically smaller with much fewer choices.
This is a fanboy machine. 😆
Haha, fair! I would never even consider buying something like this if it wasn't from Ableton.
No custom keyboard shortcuts, no mixer (like bitwig), but another marketing useless product... Ableton still ableton🤣🤦♂️