How to Secure a MAX Heist with Underground - In Too Deep with Frodan

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  • Опубліковано 9 жов 2024
  • TFT Set 8.5 In-depth Guide - Underground Max Heist Cashout
    Hitting an Underground max cashout is something many try but fail. In this TFT guide, Frodan goes in-depth on how he secured his max heist in a top-ranked lobby, and how Underground is different from previous economy traits (Fortune, Mercenary).
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 87

  • @LatDropKing810
    @LatDropKing810 Рік тому +112

    This is extremely high quality content, looking forward to new videos in this series.

  • @teemychow6483
    @teemychow6483 Рік тому +49

    The commentary of your replay is very helpful. I don't usually enjoy watching higher elo people play because they are just fast with a different level of IQ. But the way you explained every thought process, really helped me learn and pretty inspiring. Thanks for the content. First time viewer of your channel, definitely subscribing!

    • @ryanmarchand1756
      @ryanmarchand1756 Рік тому

      on god he was, at one point, in a pretty huge conundrum, but he turned it around!

  • @LucasHeim
    @LucasHeim Рік тому +28

    wow, that was amazing. Love this format explaining like every single decision you make, I think it helps a lot to understand all the possible variables involved. Thanks for that!

  • @finn1395
    @finn1395 Рік тому +1

    This is so much more interesting than the usual tft content which are essential vod upload.

  • @MoonDoy2
    @MoonDoy2 Рік тому

    This is GOAT TFT commentary. No other TFT UA-cam vids come close to this.

  • @Raithis24
    @Raithis24 Рік тому

    AMAZING content! I loved that you dubbed over your gameplay rather than just putting raw footage out (and I like how you were criticizing yourself for some of your decisions). It was extremely informative. Great stuff!

  • @amoic9858
    @amoic9858 Рік тому +1

    Dude ur explanations are insane, i just love the way you spread information non stop which makes the video so intresting without a break. Ur the goat. +1 follower

  • @mikesez1
    @mikesez1 Рік тому +3

    Please keep making this content. It’s helping a ton with what to think through at each stage

  • @brentonhood
    @brentonhood Рік тому

    Yeah the production value on these videos is insane, thank you!

  • @buda4510
    @buda4510 Рік тому +1

    This is probably the best channel to learn tft, this is amazing.
    The community really thanks you Mr. Frodan

  • @AppleMangoBanano
    @AppleMangoBanano Рік тому +3

    Very satisfing. Perfect cash out timing, good items, well thought out & prepared, good editing, enjoyed this vid a lot

  • @Silvmeister
    @Silvmeister Рік тому +1

    Hi Frodan. Just wanted to let you know that this is great content. I'm used to watch several TFT videos and streams and all the explanations and reasoning you provided was really enjoyable. Thank you so much and please keep on going

  • @eurostep4
    @eurostep4 Рік тому +1

    Please do more of these. This is literally a perfect kind of tft video i wanna see more of.

  • @chrisdecker9732
    @chrisdecker9732 Рік тому

    Love the idea of high elo educational content. I’ve learned infinite from your streaming and hopefully now UA-cam as well. Good shit!

  • @rossburhans8761
    @rossburhans8761 Рік тому +1

    Very insightful video and a great watch! Would love to see more content like this!!

  • @mariaceron8738
    @mariaceron8738 Рік тому

    This is one of the best videos I’ve had the pleasure of watching. This is such high quality and informative. Thanks for the insights and thoughtfulness that went into this video. 🎉❤

  • @scrummpybear
    @scrummpybear Рік тому

    damn man i saw you at the tft worlds and just watched this as the first video, thank you for explaining it so well, ive always had little questions like if i put items on mech and they get "absorbed" do the itesm carry over as well, well now i know they dont! I really enjoyed that you criticised yourself vs competitive play. So helpful thank you!

  • @duhhjosh23
    @duhhjosh23 Рік тому

    Love the comment on cashing out during the monster fights or augment stage, I've lost many games playing underground and I cashed out and I didn't have time to properly set up because there was so many actions to do 😂 great video

  • @ktownpunkjr.1946
    @ktownpunkjr.1946 Рік тому +1

    Frodan plays tft now!? Its been so long since I kept up with HS, glad to see he's here in my new main game lol!

  • @rosssmith2745
    @rosssmith2745 Рік тому

    Bro this vid is holy I always say I wonder what these players are thinking as it would help with my games, this vid is a step further and I love it man

  • @andynam6745
    @andynam6745 Рік тому +1

    very clear break down! awesome content bro!

  • @arasus3234
    @arasus3234 Рік тому

    Thank you for the video! It was really nice to hear your thought process since I'm still uncomfortable with underground :)

  • @dk0932
    @dk0932 Рік тому +1

    just commenting to support, I really like the way you are explaining and criticizing your actions!

  • @adocules1675
    @adocules1675 Рік тому +1

    The best educational tft content out there

  • @movinMat
    @movinMat Рік тому +1

    Best tft UA-cam. Please keep it going

  • @NovaNinjaHD
    @NovaNinjaHD Рік тому +2

    i'd love to see more tft game reviews. going through your own games and talking us through you're thought process. maybe review viewer submitted games toooo?? 👀

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  Рік тому +3

      Neat idea! Happy to see if we can have some submissions down the road. Still trying to make sure the first few are of high quality games to get the ball rolling, but looking forward to getting to do stuff like that.

    • @theradicalaxe553
      @theradicalaxe553 Рік тому

      @@FrodanTV Make more videos bro

  • @Htsangers
    @Htsangers Рік тому +1

    Bro, you are SO good at casting yourself.

  • @ferenc1512
    @ferenc1512 Рік тому

    Amazing content! Im really struggleing in low diamond since 8.5 (I was d1 80lp in set 8) and this is an amazing video!

  • @imoscared
    @imoscared Рік тому

    Your nonstop commentary was amazing

  • @ahazu1445
    @ahazu1445 Рік тому

    your videos are really high quality the explanations are top notch keep going and dont stop making content bro you are awesome

  • @fugosfork7907
    @fugosfork7907 Рік тому

    As someone trying to learn tft, amazing video

  • @bigdyl23
    @bigdyl23 Рік тому

    Loved the in-depth analysis 👌

  • @sevenseven6123
    @sevenseven6123 Рік тому +1

    Hey, I always wondered: Isn't making 10 at stage 1 fake? You do not get income for it. Look at 1:46. He has 10 gold, transition of stage 1-2 to 1-3 gives you 3 gold. with the extra interest, you should go from 10 to 14, right? But you can see Frodan gets 13 gold. Am I missing something?

  • @joshuafredlund1586
    @joshuafredlund1586 Рік тому

    Love this video, your hard work paid off and I would love to see more of this content :D

  • @dabbagam4503
    @dabbagam4503 Рік тому

    never seen this game before but you made it sound really interresting

  • @alexanderherasme5664
    @alexanderherasme5664 Рік тому

    I learned a lot. Thank you my TFT goat

  • @dunamis3535
    @dunamis3535 Рік тому

    As an underground enjoyer, this was very insightful, thank you

  • @Rilea_
    @Rilea_ Рік тому

    Fantastic video Frodan! Very informative!

  • @athenenocttua2169
    @athenenocttua2169 Рік тому

    After a while, when I have already played most comps, underground became one of the only fun strategy cuz u never know what you get, and those radiants are so cool. Also ended up making a morde 3 cuz of gold and birthday suprise:))

  • @matbearpig
    @matbearpig Рік тому +2

    I am so uncomfortable with underground - this was a big help!

  • @miraclegrow
    @miraclegrow Рік тому +2

    subbed, youre a tft tutor

  • @MattPizza
    @MattPizza Рік тому

    bless you sir for posting actual content on this cursed day 😂

  • @AllMightyPyRo
    @AllMightyPyRo Рік тому

    Great production value and good content.

  • @Aymenn-01
    @Aymenn-01 Рік тому

    Beautiful video i subscribed keep up

  • @andychen2737
    @andychen2737 Рік тому

    This is soooooo good. Please more

  • @allenquimora2017
    @allenquimora2017 Рік тому

    i literally sub in the first 10 seconds of this video

  • @kimchiconasado
    @kimchiconasado Рік тому

    super insightful stuff, insta subscribed

  • @ratpoizon
    @ratpoizon Рік тому

    Subscribed for good content! thank you for posting

  • @ivannnk
    @ivannnk Рік тому +1

    good video sir. here is my subscribe.
    U remind me of midbeast for TFT.

  • @TH-dg2mm
    @TH-dg2mm Рік тому +1

    The stand united was working overtime in this game

  • @lunaloveee8168
    @lunaloveee8168 Рік тому +1

    awesome video!!!!

  • @demexmz4510
    @demexmz4510 Рік тому

    Hey frodan, could you make a vid that explaining what to do when you get extremely bad luck with roll odds? I'm always the first to hit 50 econ, but the last to 2 star my comp even though I have the most gold to roll with. And yes, I scout in order to build a comp with the highest available champion pool.

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  Рік тому +1

      I'm looking for a game that can showcase this. It'll definitely happen sometime!

  • @dylanreeder
    @dylanreeder Рік тому

    the stand united value was insane

  • @jakecarpenter11
    @jakecarpenter11 Рік тому

    as annoying as it is not getting the losses at the start ive found that more times than not i get more wins and higher cashouts with a win streak underground

  • @darcss6583
    @darcss6583 Рік тому

    Good video enjoyed it, keep it up frodan

  • @martinmajtan8119
    @martinmajtan8119 Рік тому

    Do you get interest from first stage

  • @alexdroptin7940
    @alexdroptin7940 Рік тому

    That was a really cool video.

  • @TehBananaBread
    @TehBananaBread Рік тому

    Wait, is this frodan, the hearthstone frodan? How does he look younger than in his HS days.

  • @no1frommichigan88
    @no1frommichigan88 Рік тому +1

    Damn that is epic.

  • @deeky1239
    @deeky1239 Рік тому

    It's nice to see a high elo game doing ridiculous stuff instead of these uncompetitive lobbies just stomping through without having to think about anything.

  • @MomoCannonttv
    @MomoCannonttv Рік тому

    more of this!

  • @alanhe4476
    @alanhe4476 Рік тому

    is it ever worth eschewing lw earlygame since youre on vi for a while?

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  Рік тому +1

      Sometimes it's okay yes, but remember that LW sunders for a higher % and you may want to sub out that Vi later.

  • @kimchijam
    @kimchijam Рік тому +1

    Do not use lucian as an AD item holder, he has one of the lowest base ad of 20 and since ad items are now percentage increase rather than flat increase, lucian basically gains like 10 ad from a deathblade

    • @teemychow6483
      @teemychow6483 Рік тому

      Who are the best 1* ad holders? I ask cause I am not familiar with ad comps.

    • @kimchijam
      @kimchijam Рік тому

      @@teemychow6483 for 1 costs, ashe and kayle are good ad options, nasus can work too.

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  Рік тому

      I value tempo with Infiniteam so sometimes I'm willing to play AD items on him until I find someone else better to hold like Sivir.
      But in hindsight, I see what you're referring to. The way I framed it made it sound like I build AD items on Lucian. I generally don't do that and was making my point poorly. Thanks for the note!

  • @kkarousios
    @kkarousios Рік тому

    So highroll an Underground heart with 4 underground opener every game, NOTED.
    Good to see the thought process behind it though.

  • @BrainDamage4436
    @BrainDamage4436 Рік тому

    Idk why people full lose with underground its not merc. Merc was all about losing with close losses while underground is more about staying on tempo, its okay to win you want close losses save hp play for late game make a plan and stay on tempo. Its really just play normal with a slightly weaker board and get free stuff

  • @-Matchuchu-
    @-Matchuchu- Рік тому

    22:55 cash out

  • @glo911902
    @glo911902 Рік тому

    TOP 1 VIDEO

  • @Lesterberne
    @Lesterberne Рік тому

    We need to go deeper

  • @joshuazielinski1443
    @joshuazielinski1443 Рік тому +1

    Good video ok

  • @gabycarbonella
    @gabycarbonella Рік тому

    nice video

  • @nescap
    @nescap Рік тому

    BIS Sivir 23:13

  • @nicholasleung5669
    @nicholasleung5669 Рік тому

    Curious if anyone else considered making 20 gold on 2-2? I usually autopilot sell most of my other units when playing underground but holding for mech makes sense

    • @sammiyearsley6634
      @sammiyearsley6634 Рік тому

      I also found myself adding up the bench but the mech units were good holds

    • @tlyee6166
      @tlyee6166 Рік тому

      i think hes correct to hold wu2 because it becomes increasingly harder to hit as the game goes on. if it was only wu pair, the decision becomes more nuanced. on a win i would forsure sell rights side- jax doesn't go into comp until cashout and you get 15 or so natural shops to hit an uncontested 3 cost unit on higher level odds. however, there's a good chance you get stuck in wukong jail

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  Рік тому

      Pretty much what others said! I think making 20g there is powerful, but I don't want to be caught in a situation where I need to find Wukong 2 and I'm too high level which lowers the odds. I think if it was, say, a Wukong pair I would be much more inclined to sell 1 to make gold.

    • @nicholasleung5669
      @nicholasleung5669 Рік тому

      ​@@FrodanTV Do you think this decision would have been closer last set (8.0)? Last set we had more/better frontline outs such as Sej, Zac, and Cho which have been replaced with arguably worse counterparts -- Aatrox seems more item reliant than Zac, and Morgana/WW aren't frontliners. I initially thought preparing to play mech seemed a bit narrow but now that I look at the units, there aren't as many frontline options for Samira.

  • @midnitebeach
    @midnitebeach Рік тому

    yikes his challenger, na ladder is a joke

  • @L0rdDoom
    @L0rdDoom Рік тому

    just an other click bait

  • @Lechron
    @Lechron Рік тому

    whwhwhwhy all you weirdo streamers drag to buy its crazy. whats wrong with clicking to buy