Runners Need to Stop This To Make True Progress
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Running is a game. It's art. It's fun. Sometimes it hurts. But if you stay in long enough, you will make progress. But you have to know what progress looks like! Because it might not be what you think...
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According to your graph, there are periods where you move backwards in time, which is an achievement in itself!
Marty! it's about your kids.... They're Marathon runners!
I always think back to when I started running in my mid 30s. I couldn't run more than a mile w/o stopping, and I was CONSTANTLY injured. I'm in my early 40s now and I've learned that VERY slow progress is what keeps me in the game. Every time I get down on myself about my pace or distance, I think back to not being able to run 1 mile, and now I go for a 13 mile run on Saturday and not think twice about it (less injuries as well). The journey was long, but I'm here and I still have goals to achieve. I'll get there eventually
Speaking as someone who had to walk home after only 3 miles into a 20 mile planned long run this is something I really needed to hear. Thanks guys!
What caused you to need to stop ?
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I had an Achilles pain that could have turned into a serious injury. But with a marathon 3 weeks away I decided to er on the side of caution and walk home. I took 3 days off from running and it’s completely fine now.
Thank you, Ben and Mary. I'm a 72-year-old runner from Tennessee, U.S.A. All your videos are great. some more than other but I learn from them all. I did most of my running from age 55 until I was.
65 and i retired from work and running the same year.....I am now starting to run all over and doing a marathon in Oct. This will be my fourth marathon, but my first after returning to running. Keep up the good videos.
Thanks Ben and Mary! I started in Nov. '22...Couldn't run a mile without stopping. Now, I'm 4 weeks away from running my first half marathon race. Last week's long run was 21k and I completed it without stopping @ 2 hours 20 min. Never would I have thought I could run a half marathon...let alone do it without stopping and feeling relatively decent at the end. I currently run 5 days/week and am injury free!. Last week's speed session included a 1 mile time trial where I beat my 1 mile PB by over 30 sec! My PROGRESS is small, but it's MINE and no one else's. Keep up the great videos!!!
I'm so excited for your progress. It was just last year that I ran my first half. I'm on my 3rd now. I think my body is ready to try for a marathon. (But I'm afraid.. lol)
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Go for it! Joy awaits on the other side of Fear (and pain)! 😅
Well done, that's fantastic 💪 Good luck on your first half 👍
Way to go! That's big progress!
Whoa! 30sec off your mile PB is HUGE! Congrats and enjoy your half!
Needed to here this Ben. 22k yesterday which was my longest run yet. Felt waaaay harder and much slower that the 20k i did last week. This video is just what i needed to reaffirm my trust in the process! Great content
It's so funny how every run is different. I've head great 13 mile runs and struggle through a 4 mile one. As long as we're out there, that's the important part
Boston has been rainy and cold, great for running 😊
Sometimes I'm faster and some days I'm dead slow, I try to focus on the fact I'm consistent
Have different trainers and run differently in each pair. Some I find an odd inspiration to go quicker and others I have the running in treacle mentality
Thanks for the video Ben and Mary! As for the pizza, aren't you too hard on yourself saying "I'm just gonna put it out there, last night we had pizza", as if it was something to be confessed, and "the diet doesn't always work", as if one pizza made it wrong. Pizza is just pizza :D
Most importantly, thank you for your channel, been following (and subscribed) for almost 2 years and learned a lot! Always get inspired, especially by Mary I have to say :-) Maybe because I can relate more, even though I'm nowhere near your level. Cheers from Belgium!
At least Boston won’t be 100% humidity
Running progress can also look like a stock market graph, it has ups and downs but it consistently goes up over time. I'm in a down right now with ultra tight hamstrings but your words of wisdom somehow help. Thanks Ben and Mary
Invest in massages.. Gd luck
Quite incredible how you bend time and even go backwards in time on the graph :)
I don’t pretend to understand “Bridges’ Rule” I merely enforce it 😂
Thank you so much for this video. My hubby is training for the comrades marathon (86km) and I have set my running days to be the same as his. I'm only training for a half, so my distances are shorter and my sessions more varied. After listening to you I realized how much I've been comparing my progress to his. I use the word "only" so much. I only run for 2 hours. Or I only ran 16kms. So When I took a moment and compared me to just me, and how I trained for a half last year, I realized how much more I actually ran this year, and how far I was able to go, I was suddenly proud to tears, of my progress. Thank you for helping us zoom out, and reminding us to enjoy the journey. Ps I just love the way you and Mary do this together. It's so inspiring to watch you. Many blessings to you both, your fellow runner, from South Africa, Nicole
Thanks so much, Nicole. What a lovely message 😊
I was thinking that I was making progress because I had stayed healthy for a few years - until I rolled my ankle and broke my foot. It's been rough since that happened.
Pretty new subscriber. Love your videos!!
After multiple Yr on Yr set backs and surgery x2.. I plugged away albeit slow and short. I then got myself on to a realistic run plan for 5k then 10k and 13.1 miles. During the 13.1 mid way through the plan of 17 weeks I suddenly had that old feeling of a runners high. 8 wasn't breaking records or even my older times bested. But since then I've progressed gradually again and again knowing it's the long game plan that works
Thank you Ben and Mary! I really needed to hear this after yesterday’s last long run for Boston Marathon. Appreciate all your encouragement through these videos. See you guys in Boston! 🎉
Thanks for making that video, I really needed it right now. Best wishes for Boston!
Always appreciate the vids. My training heading into Canberra Marathon next weekend was not what I was hoping for because I had to take weeks off because of illness and injury.
This video is a good reminder that I have my consistency before that to fall back on. I'm going to rock up to the start line next Sunday and just enjoy the experience.
Keep up the good work guys and good luck in Boston.
Thank you! This is the message I needed today after a less than stellar long run.
I was feeling rubbish this morning because my strength training and bike workout I felt Non motivated and as if I not making progress. But then after watching the video I see that yesterday I did a 3600 meter swim, Felt great and was proud that I can now go that far no problem when 2 years ago I was almost drowning trying to complete a 25 meter swim. I will accept my lower end workout today and keep moving on. Maybe it is the anxiety of the my first race of the year coming up in 5 weeks. Cheers
Love the comparison is the thief of joy….. some good lessons to life in general
Yes because everybody is different and this is good.
thanks for this, having a rough runs this couple of days and I needed this.
Congratulations on all of your Boston training
Predictions right now for 8 inches of snow this week in metro west (marathon start)! It will melt within days for sure but proves anything can happen!
Great video and a really important one! In my last half marathon training block, I only got 6km into a 16km run I was meant to do 3 weeks out before I had to stop and abandon the session. I then got sick and only ran once in the 2 weeks before the race - but still managed an 8min PB. Just shows the consistency and the overall quality of training is the most important things and you just need to listen to your body
Ran my last 20mi of the block last week and averaged low 7’s/mi which is my target M pace at a relatively easy pace and knew if I were to run another 6 I could have
Yesterday I ran 16mi and struggled at a 7:40/mi pace. I keep reminding myself that nutrition, my shoes, and motivation were different on these weeks.
After a spectacular blow up last fall in my target marathon, I’m learning to fall back in love with the process and know that I’ll have these highs and lows and to not sweat these single sessions. I know my body is storing it and it’ll come out in a race eventually
Nice one. Often, I think it's not going well but it's all experience. More experienced runner = progress!
Happy easter. The hardrate improvement ist really big for me. I totally enjoy running paces where I'd have like 20-30 bpm more 4-5 years ago when I started runinng. It's really nice. Ofc I also enjoy getting faster ;).
Thanks Ben and Mary for reminding us of the BIG LONG TERM PICTURE. I tell people I have a 5 year plan like Stalin😅 Aiming for being competitive over 10km at age 75. Wow Ben you look tired...but normal at end of a huge marathon training block and entering taper. In my experience (tho less than yours) that bodes very well for your Boston marathon coming soon. Enjoy the taper and GOOD LUCK at Boston. ❤ 🙏
100% spot on - Love it!
Loving the readjustment of metrics to accommodate ageing…
Welcome to post 45….
Love from a 50 y/o….
Another excellent vid. Ben and Mary.
As the years go by my metric for running success is happiness and community.
Do I still "peg the fun meter" with each race/run? Am I continuing to enjoy myself? (Yes!)
And, am I continuing to develop a community of delightful, interesting people around. (Yes!)
Not faster as the years roll on, but continuing to be HAPPY!
Thank you for this video. Just gave me a new motivation to keep going. ❤
Especially in the first few kms i run, i always feel like shit! It seems that i was never running at all, but in the long term (the other lense) i run longer in that "shit time" than i could run continously in the beginnning.
Unless a runner is under 22 years old, the 10+ year running life chart does not look like the one Ben drew…instead, it plateaus and then declines. No tree grows to the sky. 🌳 😃
Ben & Mary - I wish you did more personal content. You're running epic races at inspiring times - it would be awesome to see more about your actual training and lifestyle
Diet is so interesting. Seems like I need variety. Supplements? Regarding subscribing, you got me to subscribe a few years back by saying it was a bit naughty to watch without subbing😂. Give em a hard sell! 😂
Woah sorry. I did not realize that I wasn't subscribed. I appreciate the "hard sell" thanks
Only 3 things you need:
-train hard
-recover hard
-eat hard
If you are not faster, something of those 3 is not right
Feel ya on the rough long run. I also had my last long run today, 15 miles. I might have come out of a 3 round MMA match in better shape.
😂😂😂😂 some of them are just brutal
My 34k run two weeks ago was fantastic, totally on pace and I felt good afterwards. Since then I’ve raced a 10k and was 18 seconds off my PB but now my last long(ish) run of 14k felt rubbish! Totally agree on the fact that progress is not linear.
Great video as always. Enjoy the taper. 😁
Bad days happen to everyone. It is not necessarily a measure of progress or lack thereof.
Lurkers 😂
It has been linear progression for me but I’ve only been running 3.5 months and top distance 21k which I have done twice. Most recent 21k was more difficult but I beat the first time by 15 minutes. I assume I will plateau out at some point.
Ever since I have been taking supplements the improvements have been linear. I how to hit 3 half min per km in 1 years time
Once I crossed 40 yrs , had to consider recovery
You shouldn’t draw loops on the graph, because that takes you back in time. 😁
Do you guys live in Thailand?
12:33 Wait how come you guys are biting the flat sides of the edamame? Isn't it way easier to first rotate it vertically and bite the edges together and they'll split open more easily? 😅
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that runners have figured out time travel 6:21 😂?
What's the bird in the background at 0:23?! It looks like something analogous to a pheasant.
While I understand your intent behind encouraging people to compare themselves to the person they were to gauge progress, my problem is that when I do that it's depressing. I know that I'll never be able to do what I once could. I'm on the ever increasing downward slope of age and it's not fun at all.
I feel your pain! I’ve been running for over 40 years and have more than 50,000 miles under my belt. The way I try to look at it now is that I’m doing the world’s longest backyard ultra and still moving..
I can’t expect to knock out sub 7 or even sub 8 min miles after being out for that long…
Mmm Hmmmm.
Hi, you look stressed, drained on this UA-cam video!
He’s doing a long run and recording a video. I don’t imagine it’s easy.
Love you guys and you are so inspirational but I don't know, it's felt like this past month or two you've been over-extending yourselves. Ben sorry, but you look physically so tired mate. You have such important full-time jobs on top of the UA-cam commitments...on top of the total immersion into running...it's so so admirable, but I hope you guys feel genuinely okay!
I'm a simple man. I see a Messy Happy video on a Sunday, I press play.
Love your "backintime" in your graphics 🤣
I was going to say he is not making effective use of his Time Machine. Send it my way and I’ll see what I can do.
I appreciate you both so much. Been a runner for almost 3 decades but really starting to work on my form and mindset. Your videos provide a great balance of expertise, motivation, humor, and humility.
Thank you!
Thanks so much, Sean! That’s very kind of you 😊
Thanks for the great video. So many variables contribute to performance on any given day requiring us to be flexible to the every changing outcomes, and not be so hard on oneself. Edamame is delicous!!! I need to add it back to my diet/meals.
I love the advice that running faster isn't the only way to measure success/improvement. Thanks for sharing!
Edamame is really great! This year is my training lot worse, than last year, but your video gives me hope, even though i'm already in that age (45), when my fitness starts to decline by aging.
I was gonna hit subscribe but then I found I am already subscribed 😂
I don't know how a Brit does what you do in that heat and humidity.... thats progress in itself just survive in those conditions, We are British and we need rain, sleet, wind and a bit of sunshine, and all in one day LOL
“Fuel for success or fuel for failure” is a great mantra!
Great loopy graph, need the visual, thx!
Well done Ben, I don't envy you running in that heat, although it beats the non-stop raining you're missing out on in the UK
Starbucks make it all better!
Great Video !!!
Yes love this Ben. So true. I really thought at the start of marathon prep I would not miss any runs and I would just continue to get better...Well jokes on me haha. It is such a rollercoaster. Sometimes I can smash a long 25k run, and sometimes I am struggling to do a 5k. Running will continuously humble you there is no doubt about it. I try to focus on just having the goal of 'Showing up and trying my best'. If it doesn't go like planned, there is no point beating ourselves up to the point where we give up. Just dust yourself off, pick yourself back up and try again tomorrow.
Great reminder with the wider lens. The graph is a perfect representation! I have improved soooo much all around, although I’m currently “slower.” That’s okay! I can train speed if I want to, it’s just not the current focus for a 50k!
Thanks for the insights. I realized last training block that
a) my easy runs were actually easy, so I was recovering correctly BUT
b) my harder runs were also too easy AND
c) even though I was doing strength training I was still neglecting certain muscle groups.
I've changed up my training plan and am trying to lose a few pounds (not overweight but on the heavier end of normal). Hopefully this helps.
Oh, you clearly are not superstitious!😂😂😂 wearing the Boston kit before running Boston
Noble & ideal, but not realistic for all, if you're a competitive runner and in a club where you see the same faces once or twice a month in races. Generally you pick 1 or 2 runners, familiar faces at a higher level you're aiming / aspiring to be at - and often credit them for pushing you, not all that dissimilar to the role of a 'rabbit' in races and you often become 'running buddies' that push each other. "Comparison" can be the metric of progress (and decline).
Thanks for asking to subscribe. I thought I was subscribed this entire time. It gave me a chance to double-check. - I just subscribed! 🎉
I always come away with some interesting points you make.
My coach says eat.the rainbow," meaning go eat the different types of mushrooms, beans, and vegetables . Thanks for all your hard effort Ben and Mary😊
I needed to hear this, too, even though I knew it. Last year, my first full year of training hard. So this year I realise that I need to target my races not expect progress all the time. I'm ocd with my garmin load focus at the moment. Bought my first watch last June and never thought to watch the watch, lol. Just carried on with my own training. This year, I'm obsessed with the load focus, and prob shouldn't be. This has messed me up a bit. Although I've been adding more anearobic sprints in. Think I need a coach 🤔. I'm more settled this morning now ive seen your video as I was panicking about my current progress. No 10k pb yet this year but 10 miles got one and 5 miles one too. Half marathon in April. I've got some more 10ks booked. I want to learn Ben and Mary. Much thanks to you both. Keep going your both fantastic.
Thank you both so much! I can't imagine how much further along you both would be in your training and in your accomplishments if you didn't take so much of your time to make these videos for us. But you do! And they have been invaluable for me. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I love these type of vlogs, ur a v v ‘good’ talker Ben, I guess that’s why ur a teacher, u know exactly how to explain things clearly and concisely, I totally and utterly hear you when you talk, and I totally agree with what you have said today, I think it’s really hard not to judge ur fitness levels based on pace, it’s just a natural instinct to feel that you are beginning to lose fitness if you have a few hard / slow runs, it took me a good few years to understand that this simply isn’t the case, sometimes you just put so much pressure on yourself to run to a pace that even tho physically your actually in great shape, mentally you feel awful…… until the next good run that is, then you feel great and you wonder what happened from the last run to this run and the answer is more often than not, a simple shift in mind set - it has nothing to do with your actual physical performance but more to do with how you feel mentally …… crikey I think Iv just shown exactly why I am not a teacher 😂 anyway love this vid Ben - thanku 😊
What is going on with my algorithm. Haven't seen a single video from you guys in weeks pop up in my feed and it turns out you've released a few. Came to the channel to see if it had been closed down, good to see your here and still getting the distance in! Need to have a word with Mr UA-cam about why im not seeing your content for some strange reason.
the question is ofc what do you do
push true?
adjust training lower? (less fast little less km's?)
Thanks for sharing your experience! I can feel that I am not alone when the progress is not linear… that answered the doubts on my abilities.
Love some edamame!! ☮
Let’s Hit that 100k!