Hilariously, all the other elves do is stand around in the background and wander aimlessly or guard areas that need no guarding. Never do they feel alive or part of the world. The director is treating them like extras... "just, I don't know, stand there and look all ethereal or something! It doesn't matter we just need to bang out this scene of Galadriel whining again."
In season 1, Elrond was unimportant enough that he wasn't invited to an "elf-lord only" meeting, but was also important enough for Gil-galad to dispatch on a covert mission to save the entire elven race, then in season 2, Elrond is herald to the High King, but when the High King needs a vitally important message delivered to a political ally he sends some rando This show is so internally confused it's truly fascinating.
@@emileelynette3158 Hi Emilee, excuse me while I address the Tec. Mex. hola senor Mexicano…it seems to me RoP is meant to be a parody, and in that it succeeds, sort of. ..trying to followthe so-called Woke philosophy
You can't write good and evil if you don't have morals. Hollywood doesn't believe that evil exists, everything is subjective, and their movies haven't been interesting in a LONG time...
@Springheel01 Most of Hollywood has lost their ability to think critically. They actually believed they were making an artful statement with the lighting and sharpness of the picture. They think lighting that ages their actors, makes their elves look like former Hollywood actors who are homeless, is edgy. Why? Well, they can't actually male elves ethereal, because how would the audience relate to the characters? Galadriel can't be Galadriel, or even a normal healthy adult woman, she has to be a sociopath so the audience can relate to her. Lol. You know the small percentage of the audience that believes woman are oppressed in America.
Amazon could have solicited for story ideas from talented writers, paid the top dozen or so to flesh out their stories, 'screen test' the stories, had lotr experts and talented screenwriters compete to turn the best ideas into a final screenplay, 'screen test' the top three or so screenplays, refine the best option, then start preproduction. It could have only taken months and less than a couple of million dollars to do....
I saw the originals and was kind of obsessed with the whole world of Middle-Earth, and Tolkien would be rolling in his grave if he saw these. This seems to me to just be a way for producers to capitalize on a popular movie series in order to make money.
Gandalf going in circles because he doesn't know that the Sun gives easily the direction to follow and it shines in a desert every day. A trick that people knew already in the stone age. But then the level of the writing of this shait is stone age too so ....
It's quite a bit more difficult to "go in cirlces" in a desert with a clear sky and clearly visible sun than it is in the foggy Emyn Muil (or enchanted Mirkwood) But hey ho, memberberries gotta memberberry. The audience will melt away unless they can point and yelll "Look, they said the thing" at least every two minutes.
Lets not forget that Elrond had absolutely no reason to take the rings from Celebrimbor and Galadriel and run off to the King. At that point all he knows is that Halbrand "is not who he claimed to be". He doesn't learn it's Sauroin until she confesses to the King. Elrond has just betrayed his close friend and a powerful elf Lord, stealing powerful precious objects, for no reason. These hacks Payne & McKay did this because they wanted an opening conflict/chase (&Jackson memberberry) as opener but, as per their intellect and ability, they deliver something more akin to two bratty siblings fighting over the xbox controller.
Yoooo! You broke this down so well. That last part about Sauron being black goo and completely idle for 1000 yrs is crazy. I can’t believe the writers are this incompetent. I knew they butchered the lore. I knew they destroyed the characters. I knew they fugazi’d the timeline. But to paint yourselves and your villain into this corner…to not even pay attention to your own storyboard…that’s special. I don’t even think they’re aware of how they messed up. Or maybe they are…
What's trully absurd to me is how insanely egomaniac are the writers and produces. They got a genius script in their hands already , instead of using it they are doing everything they can to get it wrong. ITs almost like they do it on purpose.
Sauron literally laid in a puddle for years until some critter walked past his lazy ass. Is he gonna form an 80s rock band next? It's a good thing he doesn't have a mom, at least. I 100% don't put it past these writers to have based Sauron on Lestat.
I'm glad, they take forever. Do you mind the new bits where I talk to camera or do you prefer ONLY memes like I did last season? Some times it's hard to find the perfect clips and there is just so much to say...
@@TechnicallyMexican no it’s all good mate doing the bits with u in mix it up a bit …. Plus it’s your channel so you get the freedom to express yaself …. Looking forward to the next episode
I don't understand why they don't just stick to the story as Tolkien wrote it. In the books when Elrond jumps off the waterfall edge, Galadriel tells of her true identity of being an alien from Kryptonianianian, takes off her dress to reveal a blue and red costume made from spandexinititon (which she invented 3 minutes ago on the horse), then delivers the famous line: "Thou ist thay thou Superwomanian!" and jumps off behind Elrond. She grabs Elrond with a spiderweb that she discovered she had after being biten by a spider almost a second ago. Then, with her other hand, chops through some tree trunks that would have otherwise killed them. Then, with her other hand, she smashes some orcs with a giant hammer that were waiting to kill them. Then, with her other hand, throws a lightning bolt into the sky and stops the waterfall. Then, with her other hand, fires a super bright light beam into the sky to let the whole of middle earth know she's OK. Then, with her other hand, clicks her fingers to summon a batlike flying machine that they both climb into and land softly on the ground.
Nope. Season 1 says her brother was killed by Sauron in battle, and she chased him and followed his path for hundreds of years, only stumbling upon his frozen fortress at the beginning of S1. Apparently, she was following a 1000 year old trail, and it was Adar leading the orcs and killing her brother the whole time instead of Sauron.
Wow, I didn't notice the stalagmites. I was too busy trying to get my eyes to stop rolling after Sauron was stabbed to death and exploded making Forodwaith cold... maybe they'll just make adar (or if guhladrial says it adarrrrrrrrrrruh) melkor and nail in the 10,000th final nail.
@@TechnicallyMexican You'd think the elves would notice that the frozen wasteland wasn't there a week ago. It's only a few thousand miles away, they could walk it in 5 minutes. btw, unrelated, but all instances of the letter C in Elvish languages are pronounced K (so Kírdan, not Sírdan), except when part of CH, which is pronounced as in Scottish or German. Just in case they ever return to Forodwaith and find the ice bay of Forochel ;)
Galadriel, obsessed with avenging her brother's death is distracted because of a pretty face, and decides she can hide that Morgoth's lieutenant, a being the elves have fought since the first age if not beyond could go free and unhindered because he looks pretty. I found that particularly off-putting personnally. I gave up on watching this series after the second episode. Or third? Anyways, cleverness isn't really a feature of those elves. Or dwarves. Or not-hobbits. Or of anyone in that series.
@@nickcharles1284 "In his notes on the stem LAS[1] from *lasse = 'leaf' and LAS[2] 'listen' (*lasse = 'ear'), Tolkien noted the possible relationship between the two in that Elven "ears were more pointed and leaf-shaped" than human ones."
@@nickcharles1284 Do Tolkien's Elves and Hobbits have pointed ears? Yes, they do. Tolkien doesn’t often dwell on describing the minute physical details of his characters, so it is possible to read The Lord of the Rings and his other writings without noticing that either Elves or Hobbits have pointed ears. However, in a 1938 letter (No. 27, p. 35) to his American publishers Tolkien says Hobbits have “a round, jovial face; [with] ears only slightly pointed and ‘elvish.’” From this it is clear that Elvish ears were more obviously pointed. This was confirmed when The Lost Road was published in 1987. In the Etymologies under the first definition of ‘LAS’, which is the element in lasse meaning ‘leaf’, there is this note: “The Quendian ears were more pointed and leaf-shaped than [?human]” (p.368). [page references: The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, 1981 & 2006; The Lost Road, 2002 UK paperback]
@@goodputin4324 Tolkien made many changes to his characters and races. E.g. Elves were called "gnomes", early on. Tolkien makes no mention of "pointed ears' no matter how slightly , in the Hobbit or LotR, or The Silmarillion, and such a trait would obviously been noted. At least twice from memory this is underscored: once when coming to Gondolin Tuor is momentarily mistaken by Elves to be and Elf (Unfinished Tales) because of his stature, bearing, and the grace of Ulmo is upon him. They realize their mistake when his hood drops and they see his eyes are human. NOT because his ears are not elvish. Building on that, In the LotR, Faramir disqualifies the Hobbits from being elves due to them not being beautiful enough, not because of ears. If they elves had pointed ears, Farimir would have noted that similarity, but discounted due to the relative homeliness of the Hobbits. If pointed ears was a fancy of Tolkien's early on, it was dropped in editing.
Cause that's how they did it in the movies... oh, you're saying that there were always other races in those scenes, so it made sense to do it then? Yeah...
I agree with all your points about bad writing and execution. But I can’t help but think if you forced the team behind LOTR to make a show using all these same arcs that they could have made this a great show. For example, the song leading them out of the circle in the desert. In ancient times things really were passed down in stories which were memorized, if they were important enough. The high level concept there is not inherently stupid. But somehow this show put it to film in the way that made it look like a ridiculous plot device. Or even the lore breaking Sauron luring Adar to Eregion while he planned to be there as Annatar. That high level concept CAN work really well. Sauron at this point has no power and would be killed by Adars armies but by getting Adar to march on Eregion he will begin to sway the elves toward fighting his enemies. He did always want control of the eves in Tolkien lore. But alas, all the lead up to this was so mind bendingly non believable and poorly executed that the whole things feels contrived. But I maintain that a great team could have made this work really well.
Its like they don't even comprehend basic storytelling. Every world created by a writer has its own rules and logic. This show doesn't even follow its own rules or logic. There are no real stakes. No real suspense. No real story. They need a map, well just write one in. They need a character in a scene, well, just have them show up, although they were halfway across the world. The heroine is not a heroine at all. Intially, you could presume that Galadriel would have a character arc. Although this type of storytelling has to be done right, or you run the risk of people hating the heroine. Which, we do. She would repent of her obstinance, humble herself, and the reality that she helped Sauron would completely change her objective. But not in this show. She's worse than she was. She is a villain. She is not Galadriel. She is not a heroine. She is a bad leader, commander, and friend. First of all, she couldn't discern that he was Sauron the entire time he was with her. When she found out, because he literally had to tell her. Yes, Galadriel, who is amongst the wisest and most powerful magic wielders in the elf Kingdom. He had to tell her that he was Sauron. What did she do? What a villain would. Although the fate of men and the entirety of the middle earth is at stake, she concealed the truth from the elves in order to protect her ego. She actually allowed the rings to be forged. Although we know these rings have no power according to the lore to control them, until the 1 ring is created. But this show makes it obvious that the rings are influencing them. So what did the wise an superior elves decide to do? Wear them, of course. Because elves seem to have a lower IQ than men. Elrond was the one who resembled a character in this season. He followed the rules within this, well I can't call it a story really. He believed the rings were influencing them, so he tried to destroy them, even at the cost of his own life. He held Galadriel responsible for her actions and decisions. He called her out. But Elrond being right didn't last very long because, of course, Galadriel's intuition was correct about the rings saving the elf trees. How? Why? Well, despite all her evil actions and horrible personality, Galadriel is a woman, so she had to be right. You know, because her intuition was right in the first season when she immediately recognized Halbrand was Sauron. No? Oh yeah, thats right. She had no idea that she was having a love affair with Sauron after spending months with him, fighting a war in his name, to eventually crown him king. But you know what they say, a broken clock is right twice a day. It's just people with even an average IQ wouldn't set the fate of the entire world on something so unreliable as her intuition. Had to cut the high king rant because my comment is too long...
Thanks! Great video. And I still have one small question: Sauron, please, tell me WHY do you think that elves still believe you? WHY?! You know, that Galina is extremely stupid and tell truth no one? Or you are so stupid? Or what? This total shit can't be create by human being, really!
This is the worst tv show ever. And thee most expensive GARBAGE BUCKET EVER> So much copied from the Lord of the Rings. And nothing you see is likeable. I wouldn't waste a dollar buying this trash.
Legit question my technically mexican bretheren - what and how do you capture the HQ ROP screen recordings? I want to join in on the fun of meme-ing this show to oblivion.
You can screengrab with OBS (It's free, but you will have to dissable a feature called "hardware acceleration" in your browser to get it to work properly). Or you can always try sailing the "high seas" for a torrent download. Send me a DM on X if you need help with any of that.
@@TechnicallyMexican Thank you sir! I figured it was OBS and have messed around with it before but It never came out HD - will try the hardware acceleration, but will definitely throw you a message if I'm ever looking to sail the ocean blue.
@@TechnicallyMexican yo TM - I created a twitter but can't message you unless I am verified since I just created the profile - you got an email or can you DM me?
"We must return to our home" You can't. You're literally banned by... you know, the gods. "Perfection does not only exists in Valinor, high king". 1. You've never been there, how would you know? 2. Why would you start with that line? GigaLad wasn't even there when you said the line you're referencing right now. These "characters" are talking to the audience, and not each other.
@@TechnicallyMexican I know, but the moment I heard that stupid line, I paused your video and had to write it down. Then I smiled when you said it as well. I can not put into words how much I despise this show.
@TechnicallyMexican Me too, but I never expected much after seeing the first to episodes. Especially after learning they snubbed Peter Jackson's offer to be involved.
Episode 4 to me was the worst so far in this season ..it just looks cheaply made on top of that . I’m rewatching Peter Jackson’s movies and to me there is no comparison all the way around and that was over 20 years ago and less $ . I’m sadly disappointed .. but I’m such a die hard fan I will still watch .
I say these blasphemous words, the whole internet and Tolkien nerds are up in arms against Rings of Power, complaining and complaining. I for one enjoyed the show, however Galadriel is truly insfufferable.
I've been bullied since elementary school for being a nerd... now I'm all grown up, and I'm bullied for being a nerd-wannabe. You can GATEKEEP all you want, but I've got thick skin, and there are more of us than there are of you anyways.
@@TechnicallyMexican I'd say you're the one doing the bullying here, and apparently there are more of you to make me realise it. Since when did visual presentation equal poor writing? Since default criticism became a social media norm that is when. I could nerd to you all day about Tolkien but what does it prove? This is a TV show/play that rides on Tolkien's World, yes. But is still an attempt at bringing Tolkien's writings to screen, albeit nowhere near perfect it is not worthy of such derision as it attempts to make a story out of a partly ignored age. Seems everybody loves to immediately jump on the hate wagon because there are far more obnoxious agreeing voices heard in the World than there are voices of good will.
Hilariously, all the other elves do is stand around in the background and wander aimlessly or guard areas that need no guarding. Never do they feel alive or part of the world. The director is treating them like extras... "just, I don't know, stand there and look all ethereal or something! It doesn't matter we just need to bang out this scene of Galadriel whining again."
High king Gil Galad only ever hangs out by the tree. There are no buildings in Lindon
I am done after the 1 Episode when they showed Black Elves... I AM DONE!
@goodputin4324 didn't really care about that, the writing is abysmal lol
@@TechnicallyMexican Amigo, Cirdan is pronounced as 'Kir-Done'.
@@freeguy7628 You should as it goes contra what Tolkien describes regarding the Elves.
SauRRRRRROn
In season 1, Elrond was unimportant enough that he wasn't invited to an "elf-lord only" meeting, but was also important enough for Gil-galad to dispatch on a covert mission to save the entire elven race, then in season 2, Elrond is herald to the High King, but when the High King needs a vitally important message delivered to a political ally he sends some rando
This show is so internally confused it's truly fascinating.
Consistency is a luxury...
@@emileelynette3158 Hi Emilee, excuse me while I address the Tec. Mex. hola senor Mexicano…it seems to me RoP is meant to be a parody, and in that it succeeds, sort of. ..trying to followthe so-called Woke philosophy
The whole point of this "show" is to make Sauron looks like he is the victim and not the villain. It's the woke culture at its finest.
You can't write good and evil if you don't have morals. Hollywood doesn't believe that evil exists, everything is subjective, and their movies haven't been interesting in a LONG time...
''you will not go near that horse again'' had me in stiches, man!!! Good one!!
Peter Jackson: "Dude I didn't say you could copy my homework, you didn't even change it up any!"
Amazong: "I'm not talking to you."
Every time you cut to the original LotR scenes, the difference in quality is so clear.
It's pretty painful...
But how is it more than 20 years older... how can it be that things did not evolve positively?!
Any modern film looks cheaper than LOTR
@@tubag313 We have the technology but we don't have the talent...
@@TechnicallyMexican this!
@Springheel01 Most of Hollywood has lost their ability to think critically. They actually believed they were making an artful statement with the lighting and sharpness of the picture. They think lighting that ages their actors, makes their elves look like former Hollywood actors who are homeless, is edgy. Why? Well, they can't actually male elves ethereal, because how would the audience relate to the characters? Galadriel can't be Galadriel, or even a normal healthy adult woman, she has to be a sociopath so the audience can relate to her. Lol. You know the small percentage of the audience that believes woman are oppressed in America.
Amazon could have solicited for story ideas from talented writers, paid the top dozen or so to flesh out their stories, 'screen test' the stories, had lotr experts and talented screenwriters compete to turn the best ideas into a final screenplay, 'screen test' the top three or so screenplays, refine the best option, then start preproduction. It could have only taken months and less than a couple of million dollars to do....
I saw the originals and was kind of obsessed with the whole world of Middle-Earth, and Tolkien would be rolling in his grave if he saw these. This seems to me to just be a way for producers to capitalize on a popular movie series in order to make money.
Or they could have listened to Tom Shipey, instead of firing him for pointing out the lore...
Oh cmon! You jump off a waterfall you gotta use a clip fromThe Fugitive!
Missed opportunity for sure.
Oh yeah, I'll add it to the next one
Fantastic breakdown! I can't believe the incompetence of these writers.
Welcome
To the modern age. When merit is no lore ;).
Worst thing is... they believe this piece of shite show is their Magnum opus and everyone else is in the wrong.
Gandalf going in circles because he doesn't know that the Sun gives easily the direction to follow and it shines in a desert every day.
A trick that people knew already in the stone age.
But then the level of the writing of this shait is stone age too so ....
Master Smith Celebrimbor doesn't know what an alloy is so this is just right on brand!
Your final comment about the Sauron timeline plot hole was a mic drop!
The ROP showrunners are clowns.
Well, half of my previous video wans spent trying to answer that question, and I randomly found the answer while editing this one.
These elfs are not the same of lotr
Everyone just piss off each other and act like teenagers
It's made for the CW channel
This is on the Tolkien Estate they betrayed him by selling his work to Amazon. I blame them
They abandoned their grandpappy's legacy for a few pieces of silver.
#NotMyDarkLord 😆✊️ Great video BTW! And don't worry, these "writers" won't have neither my time nor my respect 😂
#saurondidnothingwrong
It's quite a bit more difficult to "go in cirlces" in a desert with a clear sky and clearly visible sun than it is in the foggy Emyn Muil (or enchanted Mirkwood)
But hey ho, memberberries gotta memberberry. The audience will melt away unless they can point and yelll "Look, they said the thing" at least every two minutes.
Yeah, we talked about that on the livestream, absolutely ridiculous
I gotta watch "The Emperor's New Groove" movie now
back when Disney tried to make good movies...
THERE IS A TAMPAX IN ME!!
This show makes me wish Feanor finished the job.
Love the editing… very funny!! 👍😀
Thank you, it takes a long time.
Lets not forget that Elrond had absolutely no reason to take the rings from Celebrimbor and Galadriel and run off to the King. At that point all he knows is that Halbrand "is not who he claimed to be". He doesn't learn it's Sauroin until she confesses to the King. Elrond has just betrayed his close friend and a powerful elf Lord, stealing powerful precious objects, for no reason.
These hacks Payne & McKay did this because they wanted an opening conflict/chase (&Jackson memberberry) as opener but, as per their intellect and ability, they deliver something more akin to two bratty siblings fighting over the xbox controller.
It happened off screen between seasons, people wont even notice
@@TechnicallyMexicanwe need that episode between seasons, maybe it could be not a better one but a less cringey...? 😅
Yoooo! You broke this down so well. That last part about Sauron being black goo and completely idle for 1000 yrs is crazy. I can’t believe the writers are this incompetent. I knew they butchered the lore. I knew they destroyed the characters. I knew they fugazi’d the timeline. But to paint yourselves and your villain into this corner…to not even pay attention to your own storyboard…that’s special. I don’t even think they’re aware of how they messed up.
Or maybe they are…
What's trully absurd to me is how insanely egomaniac are the writers and produces. They got a genius script in their hands already , instead of using it they are doing everything they can to get it wrong. ITs almost like they do it on purpose.
it's not about the money, it's about the message
@@TechnicallyMexican I never implicated money. In any form.
@@TheKaragio No I meant that money isn't important to the producers of shows like these, its all bout the modern message
Sauron literally laid in a puddle for years until some critter walked past his lazy ass. Is he gonna form an 80s rock band next? It's a good thing he doesn't have a mom, at least.
I 100% don't put it past these writers to have based Sauron on Lestat.
I'll say this for the show. It brings out the comedy out of you guys😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Give them to me..... and give it to me raw😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm pulling an all-nighter tonight to finish ep 2
This high King looks like Caesar with that crown.
And yet sauron got the Caesar treatment
19:42 "cosplaying as Morgoth"
Ahaha she can track them through a desert for weeks even watch them going round in a circle but can't see a thick as rope 😂😂😂
And we are supposed to believe that she had extra food when nori and the stranger already ran out...
ElRRRRRRond
What A-Dull and is smorks did to SaurBro in this episode is what the writers are doing to humanity's braincells.
In ep 4 The first elf dying in their group is beautiful irony. Wonder if there even aware of their buster?
Bunch of racists
Love these videos 😂
I'm glad, they take forever. Do you mind the new bits where I talk to camera or do you prefer ONLY memes like I did last season? Some times it's hard to find the perfect clips and there is just so much to say...
@@TechnicallyMexican no it’s all good mate doing the bits with u in mix it up a bit …. Plus it’s your channel so you get the freedom to express yaself …. Looking forward to the next episode
I think Rings of Power was actually pretty good - considering it was written by Chat GPT.
I don't understand why they don't just stick to the story as Tolkien wrote it. In the books when Elrond jumps off the waterfall edge, Galadriel tells of her true identity of being an alien from Kryptonianianian, takes off her dress to reveal a blue and red costume made from spandexinititon (which she invented 3 minutes ago on the horse), then delivers the famous line: "Thou ist thay thou Superwomanian!" and jumps off behind Elrond. She grabs Elrond with a spiderweb that she discovered she had after being biten by a spider almost a second ago. Then, with her other hand, chops through some tree trunks that would have otherwise killed them. Then, with her other hand, she smashes some orcs with a giant hammer that were waiting to kill them. Then, with her other hand, throws a lightning bolt into the sky and stops the waterfall. Then, with her other hand, fires a super bright light beam into the sky to let the whole of middle earth know she's OK. Then, with her other hand, clicks her fingers to summon a batlike flying machine that they both climb into and land softly on the ground.
why do they rrrroll the rrrrs in everrrryones name except Halbrand? it should be Halbrrrand
Great break downn
Do they ever explain why SHE is chasing Fakerond and for how long?
Nope. Season 1 says her brother was killed by Sauron in battle, and she chased him and followed his path for hundreds of years, only stumbling upon his frozen fortress at the beginning of S1. Apparently, she was following a 1000 year old trail, and it was Adar leading the orcs and killing her brother the whole time instead of Sauron.
@@shelfhelpgaming No, I mean chasing on horse to get the rings from Elrond.
No, it's never explained
No writers, humans polishing AI scripts
Also Cirdan never went to Valinor he was Sindar. (Until 4th age) But at this point we know this is not about the middle earth we know so....
Wow, I didn't notice the stalagmites. I was too busy trying to get my eyes to stop rolling after Sauron was stabbed to death and exploded making Forodwaith cold... maybe they'll just make adar (or if guhladrial says it adarrrrrrrrrrruh) melkor and nail in the 10,000th final nail.
I wouldn't put anything past these hacks
@@TechnicallyMexican You'd think the elves would notice that the frozen wasteland wasn't there a week ago. It's only a few thousand miles away, they could walk it in 5 minutes.
btw, unrelated, but all instances of the letter C in Elvish languages are pronounced K (so Kírdan, not Sírdan), except when part of CH, which is pronounced as in Scottish or German. Just in case they ever return to Forodwaith and find the ice bay of Forochel ;)
@@Atanalcar it's the LAST place that Galadriel looks for him...
Galadriel, obsessed with avenging her brother's death is distracted because of a pretty face, and decides she can hide that Morgoth's lieutenant, a being the elves have fought since the first age if not beyond could go free and unhindered because he looks pretty.
I found that particularly off-putting personnally.
I gave up on watching this series after the second episode. Or third? Anyways, cleverness isn't really a feature of those elves.
Or dwarves.
Or not-hobbits.
Or of anyone in that series.
The pointy ears just make me laugh. Elves do not have pointed ears. The actors look like clowns.
Tolkien stated they have pointed ears.
@@goodputin4324 No.
@@nickcharles1284 "In his notes on the stem LAS[1] from *lasse = 'leaf' and LAS[2] 'listen' (*lasse = 'ear'), Tolkien noted the possible relationship between the two in that Elven "ears were more pointed and leaf-shaped" than human ones."
@@nickcharles1284 Do Tolkien's Elves and Hobbits have pointed ears?
Yes, they do. Tolkien doesn’t often dwell on describing the minute physical details of his characters, so it is possible to read The Lord of the Rings and his other writings without noticing that either Elves or Hobbits have pointed ears. However, in a 1938 letter (No. 27, p. 35) to his American publishers Tolkien says Hobbits have “a round, jovial face; [with] ears only slightly pointed and ‘elvish.’” From this it is clear that Elvish ears were more obviously pointed. This was confirmed when The Lost Road was published in 1987. In the Etymologies under the first definition of ‘LAS’, which is the element in lasse meaning ‘leaf’, there is this note: “The Quendian ears were more pointed and leaf-shaped than [?human]” (p.368).
[page references: The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, 1981 & 2006; The Lost Road, 2002 UK paperback]
@@goodputin4324 Tolkien made many changes to his characters and races. E.g. Elves were called "gnomes", early on. Tolkien makes no mention of "pointed ears' no matter how slightly , in the Hobbit or LotR, or The Silmarillion, and such a trait would obviously been noted. At least twice from memory this is underscored: once when coming to Gondolin Tuor is momentarily mistaken by Elves to be and Elf (Unfinished Tales) because of his stature, bearing, and the grace of Ulmo is upon him. They realize their mistake when his hood drops and they see his eyes are human. NOT because his ears are not elvish. Building on that, In the LotR, Faramir disqualifies the Hobbits from being elves due to them not being beautiful enough, not because of ears. If they elves had pointed ears, Farimir would have noted that similarity, but discounted due to the relative homeliness of the Hobbits. If pointed ears was a fancy of Tolkien's early on, it was dropped in editing.
why are they randomly switching to sindarin when there were only elfs in the scene, like ?????
Cause that's how they did it in the movies... oh, you're saying that there were always other races in those scenes, so it made sense to do it then? Yeah...
I agree with all your points about bad writing and execution. But I can’t help but think if you forced the team behind LOTR to make a show using all these same arcs that they could have made this a great show. For example, the song leading them out of the circle in the desert. In ancient times things really were passed down in stories which were memorized, if they were important enough. The high level concept there is not inherently stupid. But somehow this show put it to film in the way that made it look like a ridiculous plot device. Or even the lore breaking Sauron luring Adar to Eregion while he planned to be there as Annatar. That high level concept CAN work really well. Sauron at this point has no power and would be killed by Adars armies but by getting Adar to march on Eregion he will begin to sway the elves toward fighting his enemies. He did always want control of the eves in Tolkien lore. But alas, all the lead up to this was so mind bendingly non believable and poorly executed that the whole things feels contrived. But I maintain that a great team could have made this work really well.
No, I agree! This show COULD have been AMAZING, it's just being made by IDIOTS!
My favorite part is where they subverted our expectations by changing the source material with current-year politics for the Modern Audience™
Cultural Marxism
Then was the Mordor-Sigil Adar's sign? Had Adar kiled Finrod?
Yes, adar was the one who want3d orks to meet in the southland to find a new home...
Its like they don't even comprehend basic storytelling. Every world created by a writer has its own rules and logic. This show doesn't even follow its own rules or logic. There are no real stakes. No real suspense. No real story. They need a map, well just write one in. They need a character in a scene, well, just have them show up, although they were halfway across the world.
The heroine is not a heroine at all. Intially, you could presume that Galadriel would have a character arc. Although this type of storytelling has to be done right, or you run the risk of people hating the heroine. Which, we do. She would repent of her obstinance, humble herself, and the reality that she helped Sauron would completely change her objective. But not in this show. She's worse than she was.
She is a villain. She is not Galadriel. She is not a heroine. She is a bad leader, commander, and friend. First of all, she couldn't discern that he was Sauron the entire time he was with her. When she found out, because he literally had to tell her. Yes, Galadriel, who is amongst the wisest and most powerful magic wielders in the elf Kingdom. He had to tell her that he was Sauron. What did she do? What a villain would. Although the fate of men and the entirety of the middle earth is at stake, she concealed the truth from the elves in order to protect her ego. She actually allowed the rings to be forged. Although we know these rings have no power according to the lore to control them, until the 1 ring is created. But this show makes it obvious that the rings are influencing them. So what did the wise an superior elves decide to do? Wear them, of course. Because elves seem to have a lower IQ than men.
Elrond was the one who resembled a character in this season. He followed the rules within this, well I can't call it a story really. He believed the rings were influencing them, so he tried to destroy them, even at the cost of his own life. He held Galadriel responsible for her actions and decisions. He called her out. But Elrond being right didn't last very long because, of course, Galadriel's intuition was correct about the rings saving the elf trees. How? Why? Well, despite all her evil actions and horrible personality, Galadriel is a woman, so she had to be right. You know, because her intuition was right in the first season when she immediately recognized Halbrand was Sauron. No? Oh yeah, thats right. She had no idea that she was having a love affair with Sauron after spending months with him, fighting a war in his name, to eventually crown him king. But you know what they say, a broken clock is right twice a day. It's just people with even an average IQ wouldn't set the fate of the entire world on something so unreliable as her intuition.
Had to cut the high king rant because my comment is too long...
I think you would love our Sunday night livestreams. We really breakdown the storytelling
I actually didn't hate the 4th episode if that's all I'd seen of the show I might have thought it had potential but it has likely peaked
Thanks! Great video. And I still have one small question: Sauron, please, tell me WHY do you think that elves still believe you? WHY?! You know, that Galina is extremely stupid and tell truth no one? Or you are so stupid? Or what?
This total shit can't be create by human being, really!
He somehow knows everyone else's plans too, despite being locked up in Adars camp the whole time
Made up the script as they slept..
No, writing this bad has to be intentional.
This is the worst tv show ever. And thee most expensive GARBAGE BUCKET EVER> So much copied from the Lord of the Rings. And nothing you see is likeable. I wouldn't waste a dollar buying this trash.
Set the lore-breaking aside, it's STILL bad TV.
Legit question my technically mexican bretheren - what and how do you capture the HQ ROP screen recordings? I want to join in on the fun of meme-ing this show to oblivion.
You can screengrab with OBS (It's free, but you will have to dissable a feature called "hardware acceleration" in your browser to get it to work properly). Or you can always try sailing the "high seas" for a torrent download. Send me a DM on X if you need help with any of that.
@@TechnicallyMexican Thank you sir! I figured it was OBS and have messed around with it before but It never came out HD - will try the hardware acceleration, but will definitely throw you a message if I'm ever looking to sail the ocean blue.
Also Davincci Resolve is a free video editor that works great!
@@TechnicallyMexican yo TM - I created a twitter but can't message you unless I am verified since I just created the profile - you got an email or can you DM me?
Cirdan is pronounced Kirdan, not Sirdan. :-)
Thank you, I have been corrected. I lose all my Nerd points, starting back at zero...
"We must return to our home"
You can't. You're literally banned by... you know, the gods.
"Perfection does not only exists in Valinor, high king".
1. You've never been there, how would you know?
2. Why would you start with that line? GigaLad wasn't even there when you said the line you're referencing right now. These "characters" are talking to the audience, and not each other.
I made this exact point at the end of the video!
@@TechnicallyMexican I know, but the moment I heard that stupid line, I paused your video and had to write it down.
Then I smiled when you said it as well.
I can not put into words how much I despise this show.
Glad to see it's as terrible as ever. What a disgrace.
It makes me so sad
@TechnicallyMexican Me too, but I never expected much after seeing the first to episodes. Especially after learning they snubbed Peter Jackson's offer to be involved.
But why
Episode 4 to me was the worst so far in this season ..it just looks cheaply made on top of that . I’m rewatching Peter Jackson’s movies and to me there is no comparison all the way around and that was over 20 years ago and less $ . I’m sadly disappointed .. but I’m such a die hard fan I will still watch .
I Nr know whyou ‘t hamore sub.. Yu are really nny. Learn hi.
Thanks and welcome
They know better than Tolkien, maybe you just lack the IQ to love such a stunning and brave retelling!!
What a joke with him not even wearing the crown... I hate this show
How can anyone know better than the one who created the whole thing? Anyone with an IQ can tell that this show is really bad😅😂😂
Cry babies unite! Party on dudes x
Be excellent to each other
@@TechnicallyMexican 🤘
what we're really sick of is cultural warriors chronically online. You ruined UA-cam. BLOCK
I mean... the analytics would disagree.
I say these blasphemous words, the whole internet and Tolkien nerds are up in arms against Rings of Power, complaining and complaining. I for one enjoyed the show, however Galadriel is truly insfufferable.
You are allowed to like the show, just don't pretend it's Tolkien.
Why are there Black and Asian Elves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Por que????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Muy malo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Porque Amazon son racistas
@@TechnicallyMexican creo que es loco!
Yeah the show has issues.
But all the wannabe nerds crying about it is even more nauseating.
I've been bullied since elementary school for being a nerd... now I'm all grown up, and I'm bullied for being a nerd-wannabe. You can GATEKEEP all you want, but I've got thick skin, and there are more of us than there are of you anyways.
@@TechnicallyMexican I'd say you're the one doing the bullying here, and apparently there are more of you to make me realise it.
Since when did visual presentation equal poor writing? Since default criticism became a social media norm that is when.
I could nerd to you all day about Tolkien but what does it prove?
This is a TV show/play that rides on Tolkien's World, yes. But is still an attempt at bringing Tolkien's writings to screen, albeit nowhere near perfect it is not worthy of such derision as it attempts to make a story out of a partly ignored age.
Seems everybody loves to immediately jump on the hate wagon because there are far more obnoxious agreeing voices heard in the World than there are voices of good will.
@@MultiVeeta almost the entire video is criticizing the WRITING... it's clear you have judged me without even watching.
Eat the bugs.