How to connect a cut out float switch to the pond, plus alterations inside the filter house

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  • @StokeKoiAdventures
    @StokeKoiAdventures Рік тому +1

    Just what I was looking for. Just about to fit one, cheers Andy

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  Рік тому

      Your welcome Neil, hope it helps mate 👍🏻

  • @jonfharding9429
    @jonfharding9429 Рік тому +1

    Great video, easy to understand . Thankyou. Jon&Denise 🧙‍♂️🦉

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  Рік тому

      Thank you both, glad the video helped.
      Regards Andy

  • @MickysAquariums
    @MickysAquariums 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Saved this one for a few weeks time when im fitting my own. 👍

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      Thanks mate, 👍🏻

  • @leewilson2719
    @leewilson2719 2 роки тому +1

    Great video having to fit one of these to my pond nearly lost all my fish nice one mate

  • @ferguson077
    @ferguson077 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant Video

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      Thanks mate 👍🏻

  • @progressivepondkeeping
    @progressivepondkeeping 4 роки тому

    That food tub is spot on mucka. The float switch part will help a lot of people . I had to watch such a video to get mine fitted 👌👍

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому +1

      Cheers mate, I nearly kept the food tub for my treats lol. Regards Andy

    • @progressivepondkeeping
      @progressivepondkeeping 4 роки тому +1

      @@DerbyKoi 😂👌

  • @martynward3536
    @martynward3536 4 роки тому +2

    Great Video Andy, I would just like to add that not all float switches use the same colour coding, so its probably best to check with a tester which is normally closed or open wire.then split the live feed to pump through the float switch. have a good weekend mate.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Martyn, the video is more of a how I did mine, but your comments on using a tester is a good idea. I've seen several switches and only one had a red wire, which is why I mentioned it in the video. But I appreciate your advice mate. Regards Andy

    • @martynward3536
      @martynward3536 4 роки тому +1

      @@DerbyKoi No worries Andy, Its the elec engineer in me coming out. Whats your water temp today mate? mines dropped to 11deg and it was covered last nite.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому +1

      Hi mate, I always appreciate any comments and your advice is definitely valid, I'm not sure on pond temp I need to get some batteries, hopefully it's not -44 lol. Regards Andy

  • @jasonsmithy7675
    @jasonsmithy7675 4 роки тому

    Brilliant video, I need to fit a switch to my pond, very easy to follow instructions, I will download the diagram from your Facebook page. Thank you andy for this. Love watching your channel (see you in the next one 😬)

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому

      Hi Jason, glad it's been helpful. Thanks for watching. Regards Andy

  • @carollycett1329
    @carollycett1329 4 роки тому

    Just fitted a float switch to my EA variable pump on easy pod .So now if water drops the pump and Uv will turn off hopefully saving my fish Thank You🐟 Carol🐟

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому

      Thanks carol, I'm making changes in the filter house next year and the cutout will also shutdown my uv. As you may already now I had a bad leak and the switch definitely saved my koi. Thank god. Thanks for watching. Regards Andy

  • @justineverett5012
    @justineverett5012 3 роки тому

    Thank you Derby very helpful

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому

      Your welcome mate 👍

  • @nickgraney2119
    @nickgraney2119 Рік тому +1

    Just installed one using your guide, very easy to follow and helpful. I saw another video where they wired the switch to the neutral wires and not the live like you have done, is there a reason you went with the live wire for the float switch? Thanks

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  Рік тому +1

      Hi Nick, the wiring I used in the video was given to me from an electrician friend, I haven't had any issues and nobody has said they've had problems mate. Don't quote me but I think it's mostly usa that use the neutral wire instead of live but don't know why.
      Andy

  • @mrt60london57
    @mrt60london57 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  7 місяців тому +1

      You're welcome 😊

  • @danialenglish7742
    @danialenglish7742 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Andy lve got a submersible pump with a bad float switch. I've bought a new float switch to replace the broken one but not sure what wires got to what wires. I've got brown, blue, green/yellow one the pump side and brown, black, blue one the switch side. I just need to know how to make this work thanks.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      Hi Daniel I've never used i submersible pump but the wiring diagram i used came from speaking to a qualified electrician so anything other that what i showed i wouldn't be comfortable advising on. It would be best if you can speak to an electrician sorry i can't help you with this. Andy

  • @neilbickerdike
    @neilbickerdike 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks you for this

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      You're welcome 😊

  • @just4koi143
    @just4koi143 3 роки тому

    Need to watch this video ASAP, I was in the pond at 1.30am 2 nights ago fixing a burst pipe from retro bottom drain, lucky I looked outside, if I wasn’t at home possibly would of come to chaos🤦🏻

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому

      I had a burst in the filterhouse, lucky I'd already fitted the float switch and only lost about 3" of water, I think it's a must have piece of equipment 👍

  • @bigdjwhitehead
    @bigdjwhitehead 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you. im going to try and get a hold of one and get it installed. :)

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому +1

      Your welcome mate. 👍😁

    • @bigdjwhitehead
      @bigdjwhitehead 2 роки тому +1

      I've still not done it as I'm a bit unsure. Would I be able to put the float switch directly on the feed in to the pond so everything will shut off? Thanks in advance.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому +1

      I'm not a qualified electrician so I can only advise on the system I have in place which I got from an electrician. Anything other than the wiring shown in the video then I would advise contacting an electrician to confirm your ideas are safe to use. Sorry I can't help more, but I'm not qualified to advise mate. Hope you get it sorted
      Andy 👍🏻

    • @bigdjwhitehead
      @bigdjwhitehead 2 роки тому +1

      @@DerbyKoi I've sorted it today and all seems to be working as it should. All pumps and uvc are connected to it. The rest like air etc are not. Thank you

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      Brilliant news mate 🤗👍🏻

  • @yorkshirekoi2246
    @yorkshirekoi2246 2 роки тому +1

    hello I was wondering can you help me out. I have a float I am wondering how to wire it . I will be using an extension cord with multiple pumps pluged in. How would I wire the power so that all power cuts off when water level was to drop. thanks.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      Hi the advise in the video all came from a qualified electrician friend of mine so I'm unsure if it would work the same on an extension cord with multiple plugs in it. I can't see why it wouldn't work the same but i would contact a electrician yourself just for calcification. Andy

  • @Technologyadvisor1
    @Technologyadvisor1 3 роки тому +1

    whats the amps rating would you suggest ? 3a 5a 15a just looking on ebay for one

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому

      Hi mate, if you mean the float switch. The one I bought doesn't say what's amp it is. Here's the link where I purchased mine.
      www.machinemart.co.uk/p/float-switch-230v-2m-cable/
      My switcher box has a 5amp fuse which runs my 10000L pump and 55w uv.
      Hope that helps

  • @barrygill2213
    @barrygill2213 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Andy great video just like to know how do you stop your uv from over heating if the pump stops from water loss can you wire the uv with the pump so it goes off at the same time as the pump 👍👍

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому +1

      Hi mate mine are all wired into a switch box and the float switch turn that off, so everything is shut down, I wouldn't know if you can connect float switch to 2 separate devices to shut down

    • @barrygill2213
      @barrygill2213 2 роки тому +1

      @@DerbyKoi ok thanks Andy

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому +1

      No problem mate 👍🏻

  • @Medmann48
    @Medmann48 3 роки тому +1

    How does Blue, Green & Red wires translate into Positive (Red) & Negative (Black). My pump & power supply only has Red & Black wires, how does those colors hook up to the Blue, green & red wire of the float switch? I want to turn on the pump if the water lever gets to high in a 28 gallon tote & then shut off when the water level drops. is that a N/O configuration then?

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому

      Hi, I'm surprised you haven't got an earth wire on the pump. The wiring diagram I used was from a qualified electrician for a 3 wired pump. I cant advise on your setup sorry. My advice would be to contact an electrician for advice.
      Andy

  • @remymalik349
    @remymalik349 Рік тому +1

    perfect float switch at machine mart and junction box at screwfix

  • @nasovlamingi
    @nasovlamingi 9 місяців тому +1

    What brand float switch did you use ?

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  9 місяців тому

      Hi mate, it was a Clarke float switch from Machine Mart.

  • @jamieelliott8661
    @jamieelliott8661 3 роки тому +1

    Can I ask what happens in winter if the pond has ice on it, Is there an opportunity for the switch to hold up and the pond to empty ?

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому

      Hi Jamie, I put covers over my pond in the winter and all my pipework is insulated. The lowest temperature I've had was around 4c. As a precaution I have leak sensors in the filterhouse which also reads the temperatures and alerts me via an app of leaks or if the temperature drops below 2c. So hopefully I will be notified before any problems. I was thinking of getting a small electric inline heater that I could fit in an emergency 👍

  • @768rehman
    @768rehman Рік тому +1

    Where did you buy the float switch from?

  • @martingage5323
    @martingage5323 3 роки тому

    Hi great video and easy to follow, do you know how to revers the float switch so it will kick in when up right and cut off when flat? Trying to set up a sump for waste water in a barrel, pump in the base and float switch near the top, so it would work in reverse and pump water out when barrel full?
    Many thanks

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому

      Hi mate, im not completely sure, I believe 2 of the wires are switched, but I only researched the way I use it in my pond, sorry I cant be more helpful. Thanks for watching 👍

  • @alancurtis1388
    @alancurtis1388 4 роки тому

    thank you so much ive had my float swich for some time now waiting for a video to fit it .my pond is run on an extension lead with 6 plugs if i want everything to turn off because of my uv how would i do that

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому +1

      Hi Alan, I only have the float switch connected to one item (The pump) I am going to make alterations to the filter house next year, one of which is to use the switch to cut off the uv like your wanting to do, your the second person to ask me this and I've advised talking to an electrician and getting back to me. I've only ever connected the float switch to a pump only so I'm not sure of the correct wiring your asking for, as soon as I know the answer I'll either post it or make a video of how to do it. Sorry I cant help more. Thanks for watching. Regards Andy

  • @davidbeck1696
    @davidbeck1696 3 роки тому

    Great post buddy. Can you recommend a reliable float switch please.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому +1

      Hi David, I got mine from machine mart, that's if you live in the uk, thanks for watching 👍

    • @davidbeck1696
      @davidbeck1696 3 роки тому

      @@DerbyKoi yes I do mate. Thank you very much. Any issue of it freezing up in winter. Seems to be common for some switches.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому +1

      I never had any issues mate, I do have covers over the pond in the winter and constant air running causing water movement and the pond temp never got near freezing

  • @fos8524
    @fos8524 3 роки тому +1

    Can you run a switch like that with 12V?

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому +1

      Hi mate, I'm not an electrician, but you need the same power running through the float switch as the pump or switch box is using. It would be worth speaking to an electrician to confirm 👍

    • @fos8524
      @fos8524 3 роки тому +1

      @@DerbyKoi the pump is running with 12V, that's why I am asking. Thanks

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому +1

      Hi mate, it possibly may work then. But I still advise speaking to a qualified electrician 👍

  • @Medmann48
    @Medmann48 3 роки тому +1

    In your wiring diagram, when the float rises it turns on your pump & when the float drops it shuts off the motor, correct?

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому

      When the float switch is upright it makes the circuit to the electrical switch box which powers everything connected to it. When the float switch drops it disconnects the power to the electrical box which cuts power. Once the float switch is level again power is restored

  • @ianj6857
    @ianj6857 4 роки тому

    Is there a "special" type of switch for this project ?
    All the suppliers i have asked say that their switches cannot be made to turn OFF a pump only to turn it ON, as in emptying a sump etc, and they are identical to the one you show in the video.I intend to fit one to turn off everything as i do not want my UV's to burn out by getting hot if i should spring a leak somewhere.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому

      Hi mate, I dont think it's a special switch, I got mine from machine mart, if you're in the uk. It's a standard float switch with a ball bearing inside, the switches can operate both ways, turn on or off just wired differently. The way mine is wired the live goes from the power source through the float switch and connects to the pump, when the float dips down the ball bearing drops and cuts power. Regarding cutting power to pump and uv I'm not sure of the wiring, its something I need to do also. The wiring diagram shown is what I use for disconnecting the pump only. Hope that helps Regards Andy

    • @ianj6857
      @ianj6857 4 роки тому

      @@DerbyKoi Cheers for that mate, not sure why all the sellers i contacted say it cannot be done that way, i'll look into how to wire up to cut all power and see if it can be done,i'm sure it can.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому

      No problem, let us know about cutting all power, I need to do similar next year 👍

    • @ianj6857
      @ianj6857 4 роки тому

      @@DerbyKoi Hope this doesn't break any rules on this site but i found this video from another Koi keeper who has wired his switch to cut all power - ua-cam.com/video/WtVr1IOuGKw/v-deo.html I may ask him if he can provide a drawing of where the wires connect as it's a bit awkward trying to suss it out in the video. Hope it helps.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому

      Hi smurf, sorry only just found your message, it seems UA-cam put it in a spam folder which only showed up on my computer and not my phone for some reason, because there's a link in your comments, I have spoken to 2 electricians who have advised me on how to connect the electrics which I will film when I make the alterations in the filter house. Thank you so much for your help, sorry it's a late reply. Regards Andy

  • @mattjackson8439
    @mattjackson8439 3 роки тому

    Great videos as always, Hi if you have 2 pumps would you then require 2 float switches?

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому +1

      Hi matt, my float cut out is connected to my switch box, so anything connected to that ie pumps, uv etc will all be shut down, so only 1 float switch required 👍

  • @guerillawes
    @guerillawes 2 роки тому

    I have all of the kit to do this but, does this mess up your vari control (why is yours reading p059).

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      Hi Wes, not sure what you mean by mess up... when the power is restored my vari pump auto returns to the last settings. The Po59 is the percentage reading, ie my pump is set to work at 59%. To give me the flow required.
      Hope that helps 👍🏻

    • @guerillawes
      @guerillawes 2 роки тому

      @@DerbyKoi thank you for replying, my shows wattage & have not seen po59 etc so my mistake( i obviously haven't played with the settings). On you video you only have 3 cables but to wire it to the control box there must be more connections. I'm missing something here & cant move on until i understand.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому +1

      @@guerillawes hi wes im assuming you're not using a switch box then if you mean vari pump control box you need to fit the float swich between the mains power supply and the vari control box which will just turn off the pump and do not fit between the contol box and pump. I hope this helps.

    • @guerillawes
      @guerillawes 2 роки тому +1

      @@DerbyKoi yes it does thank you, my confusion came from the pump cable when it is the controller/power cable. My lack of electrical knowledge didn't help either. Thanks again 👍🏻

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      @wes you're welcome wes glad I could help 😊

  • @MichaelA-db5uu
    @MichaelA-db5uu 2 роки тому +1

    Hi pal, just a quick question the wire with the plug is this a plug then used to plug in and power the pump and float or is this wire with the plug the main power line l, basically I have my pump plugged in outdoor waterproof socket do I unplug this and wire as shown in a junction box then have the plug coming out of the junction box and plug into the socket or is the plug you are showing the main power line to the electric socket

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      Hi Michael yes wire it as shown into a junction box and the power cable can go to the outdoor socket or to a switch box. Andy 👍

    • @MichaelA-db5uu
      @MichaelA-db5uu 2 роки тому

      @@DerbyKoi great thanks just need to work out what colour is for what I'm doing mine in reverse to stop the easypod overflowing when it gets too high if ever it cuts the power to the pump

    • @MichaelA-db5uu
      @MichaelA-db5uu 2 роки тому

      @@DerbyKoi maybe you can give me a little Help, I have a 3 inch bottom drain what I was running gravity straight to a easy pod then pumped back to the pond through 1.5inch 10000lph pump. I decided to get a Cetus sieve to go to the bottom drain instead through the 3 inch then pumped to the easypod both on the same ground level then from the easypod pumped back to the pond. Getting both pumps to run at the exact same is a nightmare :( both are vari pumps and Evan adjusting both by 1 point up or down there is still a tiny diffrence where over the space of a day is either water raising slightly in the easypod worrying it will overflow so adjust it back 1 point then it's the opposite it's running too low level water in the easypod, so I'm trying to adjust it tiny bits with the ball valve and it's a nightmare so where the flow switch is coming in is because I'm worried the water will overflow in the easypod at some point and gush water put all over so trying to eliminate this with the switch inside the easypod hopefully to cut the pump out if it gets too high. Am I doing the right thing lol. Starting to regret the sieve but It is working perfect just a nightmare at the minute where am I going wrong?

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  2 роки тому

      @@MichaelA-db5uu you are never going to balance that system, you can't pump to filtration and pump return. Your system needs to be either pump fed and gravity return or gravity fed and pump return.
      If you send me a message on Facebook or email me your mobile no. I'll try and call tomorrow if that helps
      Andy

    • @MichaelA-db5uu
      @MichaelA-db5uu 2 роки тому

      @@DerbyKoi I was starting to think that myself that the setup is wrong but all I have done is copied a diagram from the EA Manuel shows the sieve and nexus on the same water level and two pumps one from Cetus to the Nexus and nexus back to the pond but maybe I'm missing something. I Don't have Facebook I dont do social media this is as far as I go UA-cam haha.

  • @bigmallly7863
    @bigmallly7863 3 роки тому

    Heyup again, can you clear something up for me please. My float switch arrived but it does not have a black wire, It has Red, Yellow & Green. I'm at a bit of a loss...............Thanks in advance.

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому

      Hi mate, I've wired several float switches but never come across that wiring, I've asked on koi groups and they're none the wiser, I've research the forums and I have got a wiring diagram that I can send if you message me on my Facebook page. But I cant guarantee its authenticity, I've never wired a switch with those colours. I can chat more if you message me and I'll try and help.

  • @raysharman7162
    @raysharman7162 4 роки тому

    I painted my float switch black to make it less conspicuous (had to look up that spelling) with some special pond safe paint. Took a few coats but came out well.....Just a thought :-)

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  4 роки тому +1

      Hi Ray, you can buy black ones but they charge quite a bit more which dont make sense 😔. I'm not too bothered and it will weather slightly, but for those wanting black your idea is a good one. Thanks mate, stay safe 👍

  • @craigc1308
    @craigc1308 3 роки тому

    Great video, gonna order one of these. I see they sell counter weights for them. Do u need a counter weight or not?

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому +1

      Hi craig i dont have a counter weight mine is held in place just under the capping stone with about 5" of cable in the pond so it will turn off when the water drops about 4 inches. I believe the weights are used in things like sumps if you want the switch to work the other way round ie turning the pump on when the water rises hope that helps. Stay safe jobs a goodun👍

    • @craigc1308
      @craigc1308 3 роки тому

      @@DerbyKoi Thanks for the quick reply, saved me a tenner 😃 . Will get my pump ordered . cheers

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому +1

      I got my float switch from machine mart if that helps

    • @craigc1308
      @craigc1308 3 роки тому

      @@DerbyKoi cheers, just ordered same one. Thanks again

    • @DerbyKoi
      @DerbyKoi  3 роки тому +1

      @@craigc1308 your welcome 👍