@@matthiasheymann in short, it's a way to theorize harmony with 2 or more consecutive half steps 012 in C would be C C# D 0123 is C C# D D# I personally wouldn't use it to analyze Jacob's music though, because he probably wasn't conceptualizing it like that
Great video! Just one critique: if you are gonna refer to a fairly obscure musical language, you probably might want to explain what it is the first time you mention it. I'm assuming you are referring to chromatic tetrachords when you talk about 0123 subsets, but not everyone knows that. Regardless, phenomenal video, a very good analysis
Nice paper. It would be interesting to see an analysis of the contrary motion embedded within the 11 chord Moon River example. Wedges within wedges, as it were. Also, several of these transcriptions appear to be very similar to those posted by June Lee. If so, would it be appropriate to add an attribution or two in the video description? How was the paper received?
I wish I could know what he (and maybe you) know about harmony to play chords that can't be notated in the normal way. It suggests there is an understanding of the movement and purpose of each note in the chord which I just don't have. Occasionally I'll play one by accident and keep it in an arrangement but I have no idea why it works or where each note in the chord is "going". Any advice? Great video btw!
@@samfal Ah, thanks so much! I thought Jacob was inventing harmonies on the fly by recording each voice part one-by-one and just singing an interesting counter melody, although obviously a lot of the arrangement must have been worked out in advance. Don't know how he does it, but it's way beyond what I'm doing anyway. I do need to know about voice leading though as I'm totally ignorant. Thanks for the tip :)
Ab11 implies quartal harmony, most people would omit the third when presented with that chord going for something more akin to McCoy tuner especially because if not voiced properly the 3rd and 11 can clash harshly. That add 11 is necessary to specify the voicing foundation.
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great work - thanks for this insightful video.
Thank you for this video very interesting and well done! Could you explain what are [012] or
[0123] subsets, or tell me where can I learn about them?
Exactly mt question haha
+1... I also want to know!
@@matthiasheymann in short, it's a way to theorize harmony with 2 or more consecutive half steps
012 in C would be C C# D
0123 is C C# D D#
I personally wouldn't use it to analyze Jacob's music though, because he probably wasn't conceptualizing it like that
@@rossdowning3196 Hello, do you remember by any chance the book he referenced? He seems to have deleted his comments.
this is musical set theory notation & it's not that obscure (it even has a wikipedia page)
Great video! Very well explained
Great video!
Just one critique: if you are gonna refer to a fairly obscure musical language, you probably might want to explain what it is the first time you mention it.
I'm assuming you are referring to chromatic tetrachords when you talk about 0123 subsets, but not everyone knows that.
Regardless, phenomenal video, a very good analysis
Nice paper. It would be interesting to see an analysis of the contrary motion embedded within the 11 chord Moon River example. Wedges within wedges, as it were. Also, several of these transcriptions appear to be very similar to those posted by June Lee. If so, would it be appropriate to add an attribution or two in the video description? How was the paper received?
I wish I could know what he (and maybe you) know about harmony to play chords that can't be notated in the normal way. It suggests there is an understanding of the movement and purpose of each note in the chord which I just don't have. Occasionally I'll play one by accident and keep it in an arrangement but I have no idea why it works or where each note in the chord is "going". Any advice? Great video btw!
@@samfal Ah, thanks so much! I thought Jacob was inventing harmonies on the fly by recording each voice part one-by-one and just singing an interesting counter melody, although obviously a lot of the arrangement must have been worked out in advance. Don't know how he does it, but it's way beyond what I'm doing anyway. I do need to know about voice leading though as I'm totally ignorant. Thanks for the tip :)
@@Shazbut0191 He exactly did what you said formally in moonriver during his logic breakdown
As a composer remember that sometimes rhythm/ contour matters more than the notes.
Ab9add11? How is that not just an Ab11??
@@samfal What? The 3rd is in the chord by default. If it wasn't it'd be a sus4
Ab11 implies quartal harmony, most people would omit the third when presented with that chord going for something more akin to McCoy tuner especially because if not voiced properly the 3rd and 11 can clash harshly. That add 11 is necessary to specify the voicing foundation.
Ab9add11 is the same as Ab11, its just a different way of writing it.
Whit ?
0:46 *JACOB COLLIER IS AN ADULT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!* I WORKED *TOO* HARD TO GET ADULT RIGHTS JUST FOR *ANOTHER* PERSON THAT I LOVE TO JUST *HAVE* THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know that he appears to be an adult, but *YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TELL ME THAT A PERSON WAS BORN BEFORE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* I lost Sawtooth Waves due to the differences between adults and children, so being an adult means STANDING AGAINST THE BEAUTIFUL PRO-CHILDREN WORLD OF PEDOPHILA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GIVE CHILDREN CONSENT FOR DATING AND SEX WITH ADULTS OR *YOU WILL WISH THAT YOU WERE DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* Children. Matter. Too. I've been beating myself up about having not saved the inspiring and talented musician and MLP theorist Sawtooth Waves after OVER A YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's been the reason for my self-loating in 2024, alongside ALSO not stopping a famine that I discovered last year, finding out that my sister had depression this year, and much more! You're telling me that in my now-worst year, JUST AFTER I CLAIMED 2023 TO BE THE WORST YEAR, a talented musician who could've filled the MASSIVE hole in my heart for Sawtooth (who was a GOD), is now 29-30 years old, *AND I'M NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* YOU WILL *NOT* ALLOW HIM TO VOTE OR DO DRUGS , BECAUSE *I* DESERVE LOVE, *TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* Don't you think that *I* wanted to experience the 1990's, *PUNK?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!* And it's not just that he was BORN before me, but he ACTUALLY got to become an adult - The latest year that he could've lived to while ALSO not know what it's like to be part of the adult elite was 2011, but *NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE JUST HAD TO BE ALIVE TO MAKE A COVER IN 2019, MOVING PAST HIS 18TH BIRTHDAY AND BEYOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* You're LUCKY that I don't KILL, or else you AND him would be dead. (Also, there was a “b.” but no “d.”, so he never died, CONFIRMING that he is currently 29-30 and EXPERIENCED his 29th - and possibly 30th - birthday. OK, I didn't check the video's release date, but most people don'tdie at 29-30 years old, *EVEN IF THERE ARE PEOPLE YOUNGER THAN THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*) Do you KNOW what a real-life person being older than me means...? It means that I will NEVER be their age or older, and I will have to wake up to a day where I'm younger than him OVER. And OVER. And OVER again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *WE NEED MORE CHILDREN IN THIS WORLD, AND ADULTS BEED TO BE TORTURED FOR THEIR INHUMANE ACTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* In short, *DON'T BE OLDER THAN ME.* And if you ARE, then ESPECIALLY don't be older than me *IF IT'S 2024!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*