Don't worry. When Intel showed Arrow Lake is 5% slower at gaming than Raptor Lake it just at benchmark at stock clock, but Ultra 9 285K is limited at 125w which is half power of the i9-14900K. There are so much potential with Arrow Lake since it support 8000MT and 10000MT DDR5 not to mention you can still OC the CPU too but still use much lesser power than stock Raptor Lake.
in theory, I would agree with moving highly threadable workloads off the P-cores to very many E-cores. This would actually point to having fewer P cores and very many E-cores. Does Intel still the resources to identify the important algorithms (compression, encoding etc) to proper form for high multi-threading?
@@runninginthe90s75 🤣🤣🤣🤣, why you sound like you are coping so hard? ARL is a decent CPU but it's another Rocket lake/ Broadwell, this is the truth and even Intel aren't putting some outrageous claims with their slides. It's a step in the right direction and has a place in the market just like the X3D parts from AMD (especially the octa core ones), those sell like hot cakes unless you live under a rock.
@@runninginthe90s75 Your reply alone is a clear indicator of your IQ level, it shows and everyone can see it. Jumping to the conclusion that i am an AMD fanboy is the dumbest thing i've seen today, nice try kid next time try harder okay!
Hey Dan, that Arc in the background is a hint to upcoming GPU overclocking tech you once hinted at? The words were along the lines of "there is some explored potential in extreme overclocking GPUs"
@@liquidmandotcom Xeon 6 E was your suitable choice. But it was old Crest mont core on Raptor Lake S, Too many old architects cpu that can charge electric bill high enough to bring you feel seriously. P Core Xeon 6 Still suffering from " Downfall " vulnerable nightmares. if you're performing FMA3/AVX2/AVX512/AMX/VNNI intensively. Penalty performance hit may 30-50% indeed.
Intel offers us the z890 along with the 285K to make a jump of -3% compared to the currently castrated and degraded 14900k, curiously I feel somewhat better because I know that there are those who are in worse situations than me 🚬
@@attepatte8485 Only for the 5090 and maybe the 5080. Everything else and the limit becomes the GPU, not the CPU, when paired with the appropriate resolution. With a 4090 at 4k and maximum settings, there are only a handful of games where the GPU won't be the bottleneck with a chip like the 285k, and those games are either simulators, strategy games, or straight up broken.
@@attepatte8485 well yeah, but if you're the kind of person that plays esports games on a 1080p 480Hz monitor then you should only be looking at an X3D chip anyway. This is a workstation chip that can game, not a dedicated gaming chip.
I am going to wait because it seems that AMD still supports their sockets longer. Unless intel confirms that I can use the motherboards for newer gens, I feel this would not be the best for the money
@@JFinns I found it confusing to use, no way I could use it on a daily basis. Couldn't delete items from menu, start menu was listing things I didn't want, right click menu in Explorer was useless. Its just too annoying to use for anything serious
Amd use "socket longevity" just for an excuse to sell rebrand old CPU like ryzen XT series not to mention with higher price tag compared to Intel who sell CPU with the same msrp, even Arrow Lake msrp is lower than Raptor Lake. Look who are greedy here!
just dont buy these guys, they are making fun of with these products, at least start the price from 200 dollar, so consumer can make valid decision over amd. you guys are not the top in the cpu market as per performance per watt goes. so lower the price so people can at least support you. DONT BUY THESE people
@@runninginthe90s75 this comment is from a person who is disappointed from intel. I really wanted them to hit amd with everything but intel is just greedy. Think about whatever you want, this is my opinion.
Due you guy cancelled Arrow Lake Refresh ( 8 Lion Cove P-Core 32 Skymont E-Core ) from delayed of Intel 18A Plant that did not ready before 2026. It was very sad that LGA1851 will be shortage its life span with only 1 series processor support indeed. The LGA 2551 (Socket V3) for Nova Lake and next generation supports PCIe 6.0 and DDR6 coming on 2027. Do you think intel fanbase can accept your line up anymore? They'll go for your opponent indeed.😂
Do you really need to buy a new CPU every year? Why not purchase an Arrow Lake CPU, keep it for several years, and upgrade when your system starts feeling sluggish?
Skymont E-cores are insane.
Skymont is Chadmont!
Excellent work Intel!
Don't worry. When Intel showed Arrow Lake is 5% slower at gaming than Raptor Lake it just at benchmark at stock clock, but Ultra 9 285K is limited at 125w which is half power of the i9-14900K. There are so much potential with Arrow Lake since it support 8000MT and 10000MT DDR5 not to mention you can still OC the CPU too but still use much lesser power than stock Raptor Lake.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It wasn't limited to 125W, it just performed the same when limited to 125W compared to 250W.
@@molikoli9802 if it can keep the same speed at 125W then at 250w there sould be good room for OC, probably 200-300mhz.
A step in the right direction, hoping for a better follow up with next gen.
in theory, I would agree with moving highly threadable workloads off the P-cores to very many E-cores. This would actually point to having fewer P cores and very many E-cores.
Does Intel still the resources to identify the important algorithms (compression, encoding etc) to proper form for high multi-threading?
Probably the best all-rounder x86 processor yet. A worthy successor of the 14900K.
Exactly, who need Amd 3d cpu when you can have just one CPU which is great at both productivity and gaming like Arrow Lake.
@@runninginthe90s75 🤣🤣🤣🤣, why you sound like you are coping so hard? ARL is a decent CPU but it's another Rocket lake/ Broadwell, this is the truth and even Intel aren't putting some outrageous claims with their slides. It's a step in the right direction and has a place in the market just like the X3D parts from AMD (especially the octa core ones), those sell like hot cakes unless you live under a rock.
@Game_LevelUp_ Ohh look another salty Amd npc who rather buy flopped garbage zen 5.
@@runninginthe90s75 Your reply alone is a clear indicator of your IQ level, it shows and everyone can see it.
Jumping to the conclusion that i am an AMD fanboy is the dumbest thing i've seen today, nice try kid next time try harder okay!
@@Game_LevelUp_So it’s a Rocket Lake reference because the performance gains aren’t big enough? Get a load of yourself
I just want to see how much headroom there is for CPU and RAM overclocking. The stock config seems to be extremely conservative.
and undervolting too! I have two 13700K and both are stable at -150-160mv which is crazy.
Hey Dan, that Arc in the background is a hint to upcoming GPU overclocking tech you once hinted at?
The words were along the lines of "there is some explored potential in extreme overclocking GPUs"
Looking forward to testing it ;)
It's incredible what intel is achieving with this SoC, it's fantastic to see intel is back to the place it belongs!
Does Arrow Lake support DeepLink such as HyperEncode with Intel Arc dGPUs?
If the iGPU can do more workloads and do them faster... what is the use for this small NPU on a desktop part? Power efficiency?
Why did they use older architecture for the iGPU? Why not the same as Lunar Lake?
Can you guys please do this kind of rundown on the xeon line?
@@liquidmandotcom Xeon 6 E was your suitable choice. But it was old Crest mont core on Raptor Lake S, Too many old architects cpu that can charge electric bill high enough to bring you feel seriously. P Core Xeon 6 Still suffering from " Downfall " vulnerable nightmares. if you're performing FMA3/AVX2/AVX512/AMX/VNNI intensively. Penalty performance hit may 30-50% indeed.
Absolutely incredible, nice work Intel.
way to go intel! bring the hulksmash of intel back!
Give us AMD-like platform longevity and my life is yours Intel.
very nice
I suspect inconsistent performance from a glued together desktop die. Funny somehow those words sound remarkably familiar
If only there was an Intel Linux Desktop
What is to do with OS? You can install whatever OS you want?
Does that mean I can hit 6.5 Ghz? What's the top stable speed?
Top speed of any everyday processor has not exceeded 6.2Ghz. Their 14 gen processor max turbo speed is 6.2Ghz and the arrow lake is around 5.7Ghz
TLDR for ultra 200 : similar to 14900KS but made with TSMC node and uses less power
Overall Performance increase ... Let's skip this part 😂
Intel offers us the z890 along with the 285K to make a jump of -3% compared to the currently castrated and degraded 14900k, curiously I feel somewhat better because I know that there are those who are in worse situations than me 🚬
Dissapointing gaming perf, but in term impressive productivity perf and efficiency. At least ARL seems to be a step forward.
Looking for CPU upgrade for gaming makes no sense to me. Next year is going to be great for team red, blue and green in GPUs.
And thats why you need a better cpu for those gpus
@@attepatte8485 Only for the 5090 and maybe the 5080. Everything else and the limit becomes the GPU, not the CPU, when paired with the appropriate resolution. With a 4090 at 4k and maximum settings, there are only a handful of games where the GPU won't be the bottleneck with a chip like the 285k, and those games are either simulators, strategy games, or straight up broken.
@@ryanspencer6778 play at 1080p 480hz on those oled monitors and you need a good cpu
@@attepatte8485 well yeah, but if you're the kind of person that plays esports games on a 1080p 480Hz monitor then you should only be looking at an X3D chip anyway. This is a workstation chip that can game, not a dedicated gaming chip.
X3D > ARL for gaming!
Sure, ARL > X3D for everything else.
@@AdiiS 16 p cores is is better than 8 p cores lol.
Ukrainian refugee commenting 😂
So next year they change socket again? Not good.
Next year is no desktop CPU. Next gen is Nova Lake in 2026
@@moist_ointment what about Panther lake??
@@munshikaifur8010 laptop only
@@munshikaifur8010 panther lake is mobile cpu only mate , it's not far better than Lunar Lake. Just like panther kittens.
@@mgzschannel1818 so next desktop processor are Nova lake in 2026??
I am going to wait because it seems that AMD still supports their sockets longer. Unless intel confirms that I can use the motherboards for newer gens, I feel this would not be the best for the money
@@CyberSkynet-o2b it was 1 series processor support dead end for LGA 1851 .
It's ok. Wait for third-party reviews for productivity. Gaming, go for AMD
If only Windows 11 wasn't rubbish
It's not.
@@JFinns I found it confusing to use, no way I could use it on a daily basis. Couldn't delete items from menu, start menu was listing things I didn't want, right click menu in Explorer was useless. Its just too annoying to use for anything serious
amd innovating still supporting am4 socket and am5 in future. Intel just greedy
Amd use "socket longevity" just for an excuse to sell rebrand old CPU like ryzen XT series not to mention with higher price tag compared to Intel who sell CPU with the same msrp, even Arrow Lake msrp is lower than Raptor Lake.
Look who are greedy here!
@@runninginthe90s75 or cheap 5700x3d 😉
just dont buy these guys, they are making fun of with these products, at least start the price from 200 dollar, so consumer can make valid decision over amd. you guys are not the top in the cpu market as per performance per watt goes. so lower the price so people can at least support you. DONT BUY THESE people
Sounds like a comments made by Amd bots which is really pathetic !!!
@@runninginthe90s75 this comment is from a person who is disappointed from intel. I really wanted them to hit amd with everything but intel is just greedy. Think about whatever you want, this is my opinion.
Due you guy cancelled Arrow Lake Refresh ( 8 Lion Cove P-Core 32 Skymont E-Core ) from delayed of Intel 18A Plant that did not ready before 2026.
It was very sad that LGA1851 will be shortage its life span with only 1 series processor support indeed.
The LGA 2551 (Socket V3) for Nova Lake and next generation supports PCIe 6.0 and DDR6 coming on 2027.
Do you think intel fanbase can accept your line up anymore?
They'll go for your opponent indeed.😂
There are so much nonsense garbage from your comment that it seems like you are better to work with MLID to make garbage lying news like MLID.
Do you really need to buy a new CPU every year? Why not purchase an Arrow Lake CPU, keep it for several years, and upgrade when your system starts feeling sluggish?
@@DimbleWally I didn't interesting on shortage CPU line support as LGA 1851. I'm waiting for something like Nova Lake S or new architect better.
Sadly, if the BIOS runs into stability issue, then it becomes problematic.
No