Flex Coat Rod Building - Applying Flex Coat Rod Wrapping Finish "How We Do It"
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2014
- Roger Seiders demonstrates how to apply two coats of Flex Coat Rod Wrapping Finish on a 7' medium lite spinning rod. Working on the FM200 Finishing Machine makes this final step a breeze. With features like a sliding hand rest tray, free spinning roller supports, self-adjusting chuck, slip clutch, and 200 rpm USA made motor you can finish like the pros. The FM200 can be purchased directly or thru one of our many dealers. Contact us at flexcoat@gmail.com
Hey Roger, I just thought of a good reason for a split grip. It provides a great place to mount a "beer keeper".
This video was very relaxing. Really enjoyable. Makes me want to build a custom rod.
Hi there, big fan of yours here ;) Best creek fishing on UA-cam (y)
i used to work in a rod factory where i would coat 20 rods at a time,i no it seems crazy but once you get good at it,and a steady hand ,the rods would get 1 massive coat then i use the hairdryer to manipulate and take off ,or shift the epoxy,great video.
@Isaias Chase ok, don't know how that equates
Love the how to Rodger, hey folks another great American company!
practice makes perfection...
Beautiful rod and great job! ;D
Brilliant wish we had stuff like this in the UK
We have a dealer in the UK. Email us and we will get you in touch with Tony. flexcoat@gmail.com
There’s rod builders all over the UK
Excellent information from a master.
@9:15 "...you dont need to mess with your finish a whole lot." Speaks volumes.
Золотые руки !!!!
Love your videos . Do you guys sell the cup dispenser ?
Hey Roger how have you been? Maybe you remember me, I used to work for Minarik a number of years ago. I am now in Boise Idaho, moved from Austin last year. The fishing up here in Idaho is incredible, but I bet you know that.
@6:07 those imperfections are called (NIBS) sir #FlexCoat
Amazing equipment!! 👌🏻✨
Im from Spain and I need to repair a guide by myself. I have all except the epoxy.
In my country or area I can't find any 'coat' or 'finish'.
All epoxy are glue.
How can I ask for this specific coat?? For what other uses it serves?
I have an old zebco fishing rod that I am refurbishing. aside from a chips in the paint, it's in decent shape. I want to cover the rod with some sort of protective clear coating. I most like won't use the rod for fishing. can your product be used on the entire rod?
Yes, it can be used on the whole rod, but in this case, I would recommend a clear coating in a spray can that is sold at any big box hardware store. Use a good brand like Krylon and get the product that is for coating plastic. Here is a link:
www.krylon.com/products/triplethick-crystal-clear-glaze/
Our epoxy finish is best on the guide wraps.
Roger I received my High Build Formula Rod Wrapping Finish Epoxy, i mixed The Resin and Hardener following one of your You tube i was mixing it slowly but i created a lot of bubbles room temperature was 84 deg. the only way i get rid of the bubbles was heating it up a little bit with a torch. Do i need to warm up both bottles before using it. Thanks
It is always a good idea to warm your finish prior to measuring and mixing. You want it warm to the touch or about 90 degrees F. This will help in measuring easier because the 2 parts will level easier and it will help mixing because it will combine better and have less bubbles. Mix with a round non-porous stirrer until it is crystal clear. Scrape the sides and bottom and make sure to combine all the part A with the part B. A few bubbles are no big deal but avoid a foamy mix. Once mixed pour it out on a paper plate covered with aluminum foil. This will extend the pot life and extend your working time. Check out our measuring and mixing video.
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Hi, how to stop the rod from jumping while it's spinning??
Great video. What brand and colour thread did you use? I like the lighter colour accent you did..
Thanks, that green thread is Fuji Ultra Poly dark green color #3. The lighter accent color is some old Gudebrod NCP light tan that we have left over.
thanks for the video. I have one question. what's the brand of the guides? model? thanks again
Those are REC guides item # RSPGB
BTW another nice video.
Would you mind telling what rod blank you used for this light saltwater build? My target species are inshore species as well.
Thanks for the video.
+RedSpeck0501 That is a St. Croix 7' medium lite fast blank. We love it!
Would that be 2S70MLF, SCII Fresh Water Spinning Blank, Gloss Back, 4-10lb. Line, 1/8-1/2 oz. Lure Wt.?
RedSpeck0501 know this is old but figured I'd check to see if you have tried making it. I know St. Croix just released some more saltwater rods and blanks.
Mantap
The best
What’s the drive system you use for rotation of the rods? Great set up
This is our 200 rpm motor with a slip clutch.
flexcoat.com/shop/rod-building-equipment/motors/finishing-motor-with-slip-clutch
We also offer a variable speed motor that does either 18 to 60 rpm or 40 to 200 rpm.
flexcoat.com/shop/rod-building-equipment/motors/variable-speed-dc-gearmotor
I am real interested on how you do your fish size marks. If wrapped...how such a small mark, or if it is paint. Thanks in advance
small thread wraps
I have a question about applying the Flex coat . which is better
1 ) applying 4 to 5 light coats on a rod or
2) applying 2 to 3 thicker coats on a rod for Saltwater rods.
We like 2 coats maybe 3 on bigger offshore rods.
The one downside to flex çoat is humid conditions and the finish going white I use a hair dryer to get rid of the bubbles
Таким как я и мечтать не надо о таком станке
So where do you get the equipment you are using? Does Flexcoat make it and sell it? Please respond. I love the method you use to apply flexcoat and I especially like the sliding hand rest.
Yes, we manufacture and sell our equipment. Go to flexcoat.com
How much is the flex? what size dose it come in? Di I just google flex?
Well Flex Coat Rod Wrapping Finish comes in 24cc syringe kits all the way up to gallons. We have many dealers that include Jann'sNet Craft.com, GetBitOutdoors.com, and mudhole.com
thanks for the video Flex Coat, great videos better than mud hole, I have a Calstar T540 jig stick how would I figure the spacing for the guides and size of the guides and thread I would like to go with Fuji alconites and this would be my first build what would you recommend. II have always had my rods build by local tackle shop but fill its time to build my own
Sincerely GZFishing_89
I would copy the best similar rod spacing that you can find until you think you can do better spacing. I would use A weight under wraps and D weight over wraps. Fuji thread is great. We use it. Try to design your wraps so that you don't use color preserver. Two coats of Flex Coat finish that soak into the thread makes for a super strong finish.
sounds great is there a tool to measure the size of guide for the tip, if you have a link to your website that I can porches what I would need much appreciated
Here is a link to our website with a downloadable pdf with info on sizing tip tops flexcoat.com/learning-center/rod-building-resources/helpful-documents
how much time do you have to work with the epoxy ?? I use gorilla expoxy and it sets in 5 minutes thats way to fast. Also i was thinking of using the epoxy on my saltwater rods, saltwater rods usually have a heavy coat, i noticed you do two coats withing a 2 hour window...can i repeat your process to perhaps give the rod up to 4 coats?? thank you in advance .
Our Flex Coat finish has a working time of 20 to 30 minutes, depending on ambient temperatures. You can recoat as soon as the previous coat has set and no longer tacky, about 6 to 10 hours. For off shore rods, where weight is not a factor, multiple coats is standard. Thanks.
Yes, 5 min is waaaaaaaay too fast. Found out the had way. Just gonna remove what I put on and leave it how it was before I wasted my time and effort.
what size thread do you use for guides?
+Hank Arias We use A wt thread
We're you using the same epoxy for the second coat as you did for the first coat or was that a fresh mix for the second coat...?
Second coat is another mix, hours apart from each other. The length of time between coats can range from 6 hours to days, weeks, months, years. Just be aware that it is important to keep the rod and finish clean between coats. The longer you wait, the more chance of getting some contamination on the rod. Keep it clean.
Is two coats suggested or more or less required
It is possible to get it done in one coat, but easier to achieve a better finish with 2 coats. More than 2 coats would add more weight to your rod and would make sense unless you are building a larger off shore rod.
What 1cc pump are you using in the Flex Coat 32oz bottles?
flexcoat.com/shop/supplies-and-accessories/1cc-pumps
Hi there,Evening sir,Nice video. But am wondering what size rods can be done/used with the fm200 fishing machine?
The 200 rpm is optimal for inshore lite to medium rods, which happen to be 90% of the rods produced. Heavier rods require a slower RPM. Our new variable speed DC motors will cover speeds from 16 to 400 rpm when we get all models ready for retail sales later this year. Currently we have one DC motor available that goes from 40 to 200 rpm and features our precision slip clutch and self adjusting chuck. Here is a link to that motor:
flexcoat.com/shop/rod-building-equipment/motors/variable-speed-dc-gearmotor
@@flexcoatcompany,Hi there,Afternoon sir. Thanks,As I read it,I'd be better off to wait for new/more models. As I'm thinking of 1 motor that can do like a small icefishing style rod but yet still have the ability to do say a trolling rod for inland fishing?
As would be nice to have slip clutch,But to be a little more cost effective could go with less expensive without slip clutch. As only want to make a rod or 2 for myself so cost is major factor.
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Good day.
i making fishing wobblers ,fishing lures,swimbaits.i looking for epoxy resin or anything else for protective covering,wich is very strong bcz fishing teeth is very sharp and they making many scratches.
i was try use many different epoxy resins,one of them envirotex| but still many scratches.
So,can i use Flex Cot wich you have use in this video for my finishing protective covering?I need make defencive protection.Fish like Pike have very sharp teeths.If you know.Thanks.
Lure Epoxy Gel Coat will give you excellent protection of your baits and make the paint shine. While nothing is bullet proof, you can sand, clean and recoat for years of service from your lures.
where can I get the 1cc pumps for my finish?
Call us at 512-858-7742
Where do you find the clutch chuck
flexcoat.com/shop/supplies-and-accessories/slip-clutch
What are the sizes of those REC guides?
REC 30, 12, highframe 7, and then 3 - lowframe 7's with a fuji tiptop with a 6 ring
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I had a friend who was a custom rod builder and repairer. From watching him , his rod turning machine seemed to run about half the speed of yours. Is there an optimum speed or is it just preference?
Ultimately it is all preference in custom rod building. This is how we do it. Most rods that we build are smaller inshore rods. Most of the rods on the market today are smaller inshore rods. 100-200 RPM is great for these sizes. However, bigger off shore rods do better turning slower, around 18 RPM. At any speed we believe that a slip clutch is a must. To be able to reach up and stop the rod on a dime while you touch up hard to reach spots is the way to go no matter what rod or speed. If I had to finish a rod slower than 100 RPM, it would be painfully slow.
@@flexcoatcompany,So as for speed,The difference is just the amount of time no matter the rod/rod size?
@@flexcoatcompany Thanks in advance.
@@roniler7960 The bigger the rod the slower the revolutions per minute or rpm. With longer rods, you can either move the motor further away to accommodate the length, or with multi piece rods, you can do them in sections.
@@flexcoatcompany Hi there,Afternoon sir. Thanks for the advice/info. I just took it as you said under a certain speed for you would be a pain,Thinking you meant could be done but take more time than you'd want to spend doing it.
Is it a self leveling epoxy?
Yes.
How long for the finish to cure?
Great question, rotate for 2 hours, cures to the touch in 8 hours and full cure in 24 hours
Godes job
Can you refer me to someone that fixes Shimano Dialuna rods? My 2 piece broke last weekend.
Sorry, I can not, but you can do it if they can be fixed. What is broken?
Nice Joran...giveway sir lol
We like to use High Build.
+Flex Coat . I have a question about applying the Flex coat . which is better
1 ) applying 4 to 5 light coats on a rod or
2) applying 2 to 3 thicker coats on a rod for Saltwater rods.
+skyhigh121 Either are fine. Whatever works for you.
Is not what's for me , i'm asking you which method holds better for the finishing
Well, what kind of rods are you building? Since you are using up to 4 or 5 coats I will assume that they are larger offshore rods and weight is not a big issue. I don't build these myself but have heard that 3 coats is sufficient. Two light ones and one heavy one. With lighter rods I recommend 1 to 2 coats, but I usually try to get it on in one.
I'm building mostly inshore boat rods . I use to put 4 to 5 very very light coats on . but I would like to know if it would be the same if i put 2 heavy coats on . would that be make difference or it's the same as applying 4 to 5 very light coats ?
what rod power wrapper/dryer is that?
That is a legacy Flex Coat FM200 that has been replaced with the Flex Coat DC777 Power Wrapping/Finishing Machine.
flexcoat.com/shop/rod-building-equipment/rod-wrappers/power-wrapping-finishing-machine
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Rod/reel combo with fishing kit as an emergency setup ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxntWMOZsO1Zfv-pdn_XuffEtNkTYAYu4Z recommend but started to use this every day. The rod is thick and seems durable. I keep it neatly tucked into a regular backpack all the time with my fishing gear, and can grab it anytime, put it on my back and go anywhere. I just read in another review that the rod length below the reel is adjustable as well, so I will try that too for even more portability. Probably the best setup I've ever owned. I lost the cap for the eyelets, but no big deal since I still have the black cloth sheath that came for the pole and I use that. Very portable and high quality.
Are you using the lite formula?
+652barry We use High Build, but all our formulas are great and you can achieve a great finish with any formula
it looks a lot runnier than the high build I've been working with. are you adding anything to the primer or finish? Also, I don't have a high speed motor like that. 6 RPM is all I can achieve. does that make things worse? I've only done one rod so far and am not happy with the way it turned out.
Jerry Mander I will say that the faster RPMs tend to help a ton with getting it really even. Guess the combination of the force spreading it a little and helping it to tack up a little quicker.
@@yelekaw,Hi there,Evening sir. What did your spinning/holder system run you cost wise? Where did you get it? & what size rods will it accept/hold? Thanks in advance.
@@roniler7960 It was a RodSmith dryer I got at Janns Netcraft. They're a 2 piece system you can space to whatever rod length you want. I don't use it anymore, have upgraded to a power wrapper you can toggle to a dryer.
What temperature on the heat gun?
Both low and high will work, it just depends on how fast you wave the gun across the finish. Don't scorch the finish.
@@flexcoatcompany one more question...I think. I use a Bunsen burner to get bubbles out of the applied flex coat. Does the heat gun work better for this? Seems like it would be able to control the heat better??? What you think?
@@lewkono1714 With a heat gun, you do run the risk of stirring up dust in your shop. Another reason to keep you shop and finish area clean. I haven't used a bunsen burner since highschool (the early '90's) so I don't have good experience with them, but I would imagine that it could work well. We also use a large torch like for sweating pipe. Since it is big and very hot, we use a very rapid waving technique to keep from scorching the finish.
Sir how can i buying your product
Fishing rods and rell hooks
flexcoat.com
Where can I get this machine?
flexcoat.com
What blank is this
This is a 7 foot medium lite fast St. Croix blank
nice job! as for the machine...where to buy?
+Fishing Rod We have many fine dealers online and off. Online there are Get Bit Outdoors, Mudhole, Jann's Netcraft, Lure Parts Online, and Angler's Workshop to name a few.
Can you tell what is the name of this coat...
Flex Coat
@@flexcoatcompany can we get it in India
@@denzilnongkynrih1759 yes, email us at flexcoat@gmail.com
How to remove bubble in flex coat?
To help eliminate bubbles you should warm the finish prior to mixing to about 90 degrees F. Then, once mixed, pour the finish out on aluminum foil so it will spread out, pop bubbles and aid in a longer pot life or working time. You can also flash it on the foil or rod with a torch or heat gun to pop the bubbles and aid in saturation, but be careful not to scorch the finish.
@@flexcoatcompany ok thank you so much ,
@@flexcoatcompany how many minutes it takes to mix the flex coat resin?
@@musisiamatir2515 watch our video on how to measure and mix finish. Don't look at a clock. Mix until it is crystal clear. Big difference between finish mixed 99% and finish mixed 100%. Mix it until it is clear.
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i can make strait without tape...
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This video was very relaxing. Really enjoyable. Makes me want to build a custom rod.
Is two coats suggested or more or less required
You can do it in one or multiple coats.
Can you put a link or something to the wrapping motor setup
Here is our newest Dual Control Wrapper/Finisher
flexcoat.com/shop/rod-building-equipment/finishing-machines/power-wrapping-finishing-machine
The one downside to flex çoat is humid conditions and the finish going white I use a hair dryer to get rid of the bubbles
We are located in Texas where the humidity runs between 70 to 120%, I have never had any problems. You need to make sure that you are mixing your finish thoroughly. Mix it until it is completely clear. Big difference between 99% and 100% mixed. Don't rush it. Well measured and mixed finish is key to success.