1917 Centennial Series: War, Revolution, Socialism, War. Stephen Kotkin

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  • Mary and Peter R. Dallman 1951 Great Issues Lecture
    War, Revolution, Socialism, War: How do the events of 1917 and thereafter help us understand the world of today, and perhaps of tomorrow?
    1917 Centennial Series: Stephen Kotkin, Princeton University
    Revolution in the Russian empire took place 100 years ago, during the First World War. It brought widespread hopes for a new world. During the course of that year, the revolutionary process in Russia radicalized toward socialism, in part because the horrific war did not end. Socialism was supposed to bring an end to such wars. Socialism in power and the perceived threats of its spread reinforced a trend toward a radicalization of the right, the advent of fascism. Within a generation, another titanic war broke out, even worse than the first one. How do these events of 1917 and thereafter help us understand the world of today, and perhaps of tomorrow?
    Sponsors: The John Sloan Dickey Center for International Understanding, The Leslie Center for the Humanities, The Political Economy Project, The Department of Government, The Department of Russian, The Department of History, and The Department of Film and Media Studies.
    Recorded September 18, 2017

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  • @josefadams647
    @josefadams647 Рік тому +47

    I could listen to Stephen all day. He’s a national treasure

  • @Ronbo710
    @Ronbo710 4 роки тому +54

    7:34 for Prof. Kotkin

  • @briteness
    @briteness 4 роки тому +161

    Kotkin is first-rate. He has deep knowledge of his subjects, coupled with a fine ability to communicate to the general public. Thanks to him and to all who sponsored this talk, and to Dartmouth for sharing it here.

    • @SleekMinister
      @SleekMinister 3 роки тому

      yeah, right

    • @sandozpop6017
      @sandozpop6017 3 роки тому +1

      1917 Centennial Series: War, Revolution, Socialism, Jews, Anarhism, Communism, Civil Wars

    • @MrSp0iler
      @MrSp0iler 3 роки тому

      what this prick says is that wars are good we get rid of useless people this way and we are on it

    • @kennethberg3625
      @kennethberg3625 3 роки тому

      H w we’re in fe we

    • @jakebarnes28
      @jakebarnes28 3 роки тому +4

      @@MrSp0iler no, it isn't. Thanks for playing.

  • @brightonduder
    @brightonduder 4 роки тому +60

    Just watched this for the 1st (buy defo not the last) time
    Kotkin is a master communicator - so on top of his facts and evidence.
    Brilliant

    • @Littlemanloki
      @Littlemanloki 2 роки тому +2

      His conversations on Uncommon Knowledge at the Hoover Institute are quite enlightening as well, I highly recommend them! Cheers, and have a good day :)

    • @nancylana5306
      @nancylana5306 Рік тому

      I feel so fortunate to have stumbled upon Dr, Kotkins lectures.I find his subjects
      and presentations fascinating.
      Thank you so much for sharing
      Your life’s work with us.Brilliant.

  • @paulrevere2379
    @paulrevere2379 3 роки тому +8

    Brilliant how he sets up the bookends of pre-1917 and post WWII before presenting the heart of his lecture.

  • @sacredsoma
    @sacredsoma 6 років тому +117

    Kotkin is brilliant, such warmth in his style of lecturing, really holds your attention, thank you

    • @Chazer45
      @Chazer45 5 років тому +10

      He really is, it's fantastic that this is offered as free content.

    • @Dubinski2382
      @Dubinski2382 5 років тому +4

      I love the way he is able to clearly set forth what happened and then weave in his educated guess at the causation, thinking, motivations behind what transpired. He somehow gives us the most interesting thing about the past - - the decisions, options and potential outcomes that existed at the time. Just fantastic and so easy to relate and apply to present and future decisions.

    • @craigjones2050
      @craigjones2050 4 роки тому +2

      Absolutely

    • @paulk.dicostanzo2279
      @paulk.dicostanzo2279 4 роки тому +3

      Kotkin is as good as it gets. Original, thought provoking, and he remains very New York. Nothing like thumbing through Vol. 2 for the first time, and seeing part III titled “Three-Card Monte.”

    • @mikhailalexandrovichrimsky5501
      @mikhailalexandrovichrimsky5501 3 роки тому

      Privet my Western Partners.
      I agree, Professor Kotkin is brilliant as usual and obviously dissected mosr aspects of the 20th Century Structures that were created to lead to inevitable... 55 million deaths! He made you understand how all key players fits like puzzle unable to prevent such number of deaths. But, as KGB (FSB) Agent, nations don't just decide to start International War because one Royalty is assassinated!
      There are those people that our good Professor never mentioned... those who owns Earth, whose citizenship has no borders. These people knows World Cycles {for ages already, go research) so they understand when world reach War Cycle, Finacial Crisis Cycle, and... When there are too many mouths to feed for current global economy to sustain, the planet needs to be Purged of many people back to sustainable level. WHO chooses that Earth has goo many people? God? Maybe, there are massive apocalyptic events that take many lives (think of Tsunami, Massive Earthquake or Volcanoes).
      But, then I also think of those Top People! God did not erect "Georgia Guide Stones" stating that Earth needs to be reduced by Billions of People! Could it be that Russian Empire wat first in line because we published a book and distributed it Worldwide to warm all nations of certain group who wish to take over the world, only to be discredited as "Conspiracy Theory" by Oxford... and now (last decade) we see it was true and that US is actually Subverted and controlled by other nation(s) and Corporations that can even dictate POTUS orders! Is Covid-19 perhaps Global Mass Graves and blamed on Virus instead of some enemy (that would already have started War), but pay hospitals money to lie on death certificates as Covid death. Now, without active World War, nations can purge hundreds of thousands of people stealthy, bring Global Population down (perhaps even with other "weapon" - Vaccines!), and the Virus did it. My Father made this claim... "If I died, I want to come back as Killer Virus!" Да! Sick are their minds who start wars and even self-righteously ends it. Two A-Bombs on already defeated Japan was message to ua (USSR) and we answered with Tsar Bomba! THAT cept THOSE Top People at bay... until 2020! The US is Stampede, ready to once more have Civil War... by WHO? The Dems... REALLY?
      TRUE! Those wars happened, but ask yourself WHY? WHO benefit from it? WW2 created Top Elites One World Order without Russia, thanks to our Bear's persistence that we believe in Multi-Polar World.
      С уважением
      Commander Mikhail Rimsky-Korsakov (FSB [KGB] : Research, Information & Internet - Social Media)

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones Рік тому +5

    Tiresome introduction peters out by 7:30. The excellent Kotkin starts at 7:35.
    Props to the cameraman, who keeps wandering Kotkin in focus all the way through, and to the sound man, who has managed to mike the speaker correctly to avoid the echoes of those hard walls and boards.

  • @christopherrobbins9985
    @christopherrobbins9985 Рік тому +3

    I can listen to Stephen Kotkin, Victor Davis Hansen and John Mearsheimer talk endlessly about WW2. Kotkin shines here especially in the Q&A.

    • @Doodloper
      @Doodloper 8 місяців тому

      How about Margaret Thatcher?

  • @rogerwilliams4466
    @rogerwilliams4466 3 роки тому +10

    I loved him in Good Fellas

  • @JohnBedson
    @JohnBedson 4 роки тому +60

    Start at 7:30 to avoid the tedious introductions. Otherwise brilliant.

  • @jjforcebreaker
    @jjforcebreaker 5 років тому +53

    Fantastic lecture, like all of his work. Thanks for uploading!

  • @piushalg8175
    @piushalg8175 4 роки тому +33

    Very interesting lecture, very comprehensive as well. A little note: Just before WWI more than half of the published scientific papers in the world were first published in german. That means that Germany was a scientific superpower at that time.

    • @roc7880
      @roc7880 3 роки тому +2

      after the war the same papers were written by same scientists in English although

    • @clifffff7630
      @clifffff7630 3 роки тому +6

      Since when language of scientific output determines the extent of scientific development in a given nation state??? On the basis of your logic, right now the UK woukd be the absolute scientific superpower just because currently, the overwhelming majority of research papers are published in English... We all now that this is not the case...

    • @piushalg8175
      @piushalg8175 3 роки тому +6

      @@clifffff7630 At the time I was referring to scientists produced their papers in their native language. This isn't the case any more. Nowadays English is the common scientific language, at least in natural sciencies.

    • @jakebarnes28
      @jakebarnes28 3 роки тому +2

      No one is questioning the scientific prowess of Germany.

    • @kreek22
      @kreek22 2 роки тому +4

      Agreed, but there was some contribution from Swiss and Austrian scientists. You occasionally had cases like von Neumann, a Hungarian Jew who published some papers in German. Like America today, some German universities were good enough to attract the best foreign talent as students and professors.

  • @josephanderson7237
    @josephanderson7237 4 роки тому +49

    “You think I’m funny. I make you laugh. Do you think I’m a clown” haha

    • @john1425
      @john1425 4 роки тому +13

      This guy is Joe Pesci's smarter brother.

    • @ericstapleton9577
      @ericstapleton9577 3 роки тому +1

      @@ernstthalmann4306 even on 70 mg of vyvanse Joe pesci wouldn't give a fuck about geopolitics

    • @randallpmcmurphy7501
      @randallpmcmurphy7501 2 роки тому

      Now go home and get your ****ing shine box.

  • @DwRockett
    @DwRockett 3 роки тому +5

    Such a great speaker and such a great lecture

  • @An-Islander
    @An-Islander 4 роки тому +25

    Maybe the best Kotkin lecture I've heard to date with plenty new facts. But the one fact that shocked me most is this: in his 30 plus years in power, there was not one genuine assassination attempt on Stalin.

    • @roc7880
      @roc7880 3 роки тому +1

      hmmmm maybe they failed.

    • @clifffff7630
      @clifffff7630 3 роки тому +2

      There is some evidence that there was in fact one assassination attempt, and a very successful one too. According to Radzinski and a few other Soviet historians, Beria successfully poisoned Stalin and even took credit for it during a politiebureau meeting soon after Stalin's death. This claim on Beria's role in the death is Stalin is plausible given that Beria was for years in charge of running Soviet chemical weapons & poison R&D efforts, ran the KGB and was considered by many in Soviet Union and even in the west as heir to Stalin.

    • @bleacherz7503
      @bleacherz7503 3 роки тому

      You would have to trust your colleagues to carry out an assassination.

    • @bleacherz7503
      @bleacherz7503 3 роки тому

      The quest is sincere, the injustices are real but the solutions are considerably worse - sounds more and more like the US.

    • @An-Islander
      @An-Islander 3 роки тому +1

      @Min Tin true that, sort of like preemptive self-defense.

  • @frederickratel4231
    @frederickratel4231 2 роки тому +1

    This is an outstanding lecture.

  • @4455matthew
    @4455matthew 6 років тому +52

    Such a brilliant man, and I love his use of, chiliastic.

  • @SmartWentCrazy.
    @SmartWentCrazy. 4 роки тому +9

    That introduction was wonderfully concise and far more impactful than the typical googlography that was alluded to. Nicely said!

  • @Mr196710
    @Mr196710 3 роки тому +5

    At 18:19 he almost says elites but says leaders are the ones who saw that their were gains to be made from war. He knows more than he reveals.

  • @dechaariyaratana2340
    @dechaariyaratana2340 2 роки тому +1

    Learn a lot more from this lecture, thanks

  • @deeh6457
    @deeh6457 Рік тому

    Brilliant!! Thanks for this lecture!

  • @alicemccain585
    @alicemccain585 3 роки тому +6

    I graduated from University of Maryland with a Master's in Public Policy/ Public Affairs.....Oh how I wish I could have studied under you!!!
    Love your talk today!!!

  • @blakemcneal7408
    @blakemcneal7408 3 роки тому +9

    Who would have thought Joe Pesci knew so much about Geo Political Economic History

  • @Doodloper
    @Doodloper 8 місяців тому

    Genius lecture by the legendary Prof Dr. Stephen "I go all-in" Kotkin

  • @evardsone
    @evardsone 3 роки тому +15

    Absolutely astonishing! Love his lectures.

  • @travisfitzwater8093
    @travisfitzwater8093 3 роки тому +4

    Great lecture. I'd rename it "The Past is Prologue.'

  • @DeuteriumLicious
    @DeuteriumLicious 3 роки тому +6

    What a fascinating lecture, I wish there was more like this!

  • @richardturner9317
    @richardturner9317 3 роки тому +5

    Kotkin is correct in that the 'Schlieffen Plan' was a name given after the Great War to the 'generic' German war plans which promoted a holding action against a Russian front while the main German Armies defeated France through invasions of the neutral 'low countries' of Belgium / Holland. After which there full attention could be given to the defeat of Russia. The aggressive German military leadership under the Prussians also saw the need to have a war with the Russians before 1917 when their military redevelopment and improved railway infrastructure would have the situation difficult to implement any form of warfare not involving fighting simultaneous equally committed forces on battlefronts against France & Russia.

  • @bartroberts3634
    @bartroberts3634 3 роки тому +4

    Awesome Teacher!If I get the chance would like to Read any books he's put out!

  • @bleacherz7503
    @bleacherz7503 3 роки тому +5

    What a scholar !

  • @henkschmitz6768
    @henkschmitz6768 2 роки тому

    Truly educational! I am learning a lot here...

  • @johnbanwell6391
    @johnbanwell6391 4 роки тому +61

    Joe Pesci is a great scholar

    • @RKarmaKill
      @RKarmaKill 3 роки тому

      LOL

    • @MrKT410
      @MrKT410 3 роки тому

      He sounds more like Artie Pie from the Simpsons.

    • @andreasmartin9430
      @andreasmartin9430 3 роки тому

      Totally - it’s what’s made me watch like 5 hours of this guy ☺️

    • @alexandrem2109
      @alexandrem2109 3 роки тому +1

      35:47 thats joe pesci 100%

    • @thomasjamison2050
      @thomasjamison2050 3 роки тому +3

      Never interrupt him. It's too dangerous. And don't say anything at all about shining shoes.

  • @treymak
    @treymak 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome lecture. Also, omg the constant coughing in the crowd😖😖 I have covid ptsd.

  • @jackiwannapaint3042
    @jackiwannapaint3042 2 роки тому +3

    I am reminded of Cormac McCarthy who said: Dont ask why war? Might as well ask: why stone? War was always here. Before man was war--the ultimate practice awaiting the ultimate practitioner.

  • @richardzellers
    @richardzellers 3 роки тому +9

    Anyone who doesn't get the comment about "no one sleepwalks into war", it's a crticism about the arrogant Cambridge Hist. Prof Chris Clark's book The Sleepwalkers: How Europe went to war in 1914. LOL I love it!!!

    • @jakebarnes28
      @jakebarnes28 3 роки тому +1

      "Arrogant"? Name calling. You've outed yourself.

    • @roberttg3767
      @roberttg3767 Рік тому +1

      His book is better than anything Kotkin wrote

  • @dimitriosfromgreece4227
    @dimitriosfromgreece4227 5 років тому +2

    Amazing video LOVE FROM SWEDEN ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 3 роки тому +1

    .....19th and 20th century history is immensely interesting.

  • @CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY
    @CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY 3 роки тому +3

    Amazing he can rattle on without notes at a podium. My memory would fail.

  • @rockytoptom
    @rockytoptom 3 дні тому

    Stephen Kotkin just gave a blue print on not just how to think about and deconstruct a massively intricate subject but also how to talk about it accurately. Very well done. ESPECIALLY his breakdown from 26:40 until the end of the "Soviet - Eurasia" section at 33:50. A lot of leftists need to hear that. And then they need to hear it again

  • @CandidDate
    @CandidDate 4 роки тому +6

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." --- George Santayana . Oh, like thinking you'll raise a better family than the one you grew up in?

    • @JD-qf8ul
      @JD-qf8ul 3 роки тому

      It’s all so complicated and dynamic it doesn’t even really matter if you knew everything about history lol

    • @sinjimsmythe9577
      @sinjimsmythe9577 3 роки тому

      Edmund Burke mate. Santayana sort of ironically repeated it, so to speak, a couple hundred years later or so

    • @CandidDate
      @CandidDate 3 роки тому

      @@sinjimsmythe9577 Oh, that's right. I forgot.

  • @sorsocksfake
    @sorsocksfake 5 років тому +18

    Great lecture. I do have to question the "Hitler was insane" view. As far as I understand it, while he definitely gambled and had high ambitions, the gambles do seem reasonable.
    As far as I can tell, Hitler's main plan was reuniting Germany (undoing versailles) and then taking over the USSR; then to establish autarky and ethnic purity.
    In 1939, he demands Danzig. If Poland accepts: good chance it implodes and we repeat Czechoslovakia, thus completing the first stage. If it doesn't implode now, Stalin may push that button anyway, again completing stage 1.
    If Poland refuses, the allies may allow forced annexation. Especially since Poland itself had done so against Lithaunia and Czechoslovakia. This wouldn't last long, again, completing stage 1.
    It is possible France does go to war, but Britain doesn't. Manageable; Germany can beat France, and Alsace-Lorraine could be a fine prize.
    Britain also declaring war, is a worst case scenario. We believe it normal because we have hindsight. I don't think that's the fair calculation of odds.
    Even after that not all is lost: it's the WW1 '17 matchup, and this time Germany is vastly better prepared. Plus, Italy may open a second front. This isn't ideal, but Hitler has cards to play and can fairly believe he can win this (as he does).
    What messes it all up is that after France is knocked out, somehow Britain insists on continuing the war. Britain forces France into 5 years of occupation, massive destruction, and sacrifices its entire future (plus the direct costs of war), to continue a war for the sake of it. Again we take this for granted, but this seems anomalous.
    Had Britain signed peace, Hitler could have properly built up against the USSR, invaded early '42, and likely won that war.
    =====
    Yes, he believed ultimately there'd be war against Britain. But that's long term.

    • @PotentialHistory
      @PotentialHistory 4 роки тому +5

      Britain was not going to take any peace deal because Hitler kept going back on his promises. He said the Rhineland was enough, then he said Czechoslovakia, on and on to invading Poland (which I really doubt their ever peacefully giving up their autonomy for how hard they fought for it) and by that point when Hitler says that's all he wants and asks for peace the British, rightly so, don't accept it because he has lied so many times and then proves them right with the invasion of France. The Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe could not support a successful Invasion of Great Britain (See Operation Sea lion) and that's how we get our situation. Hitler went into the USSR in 41 because due to being at war with all trade partners and years of a closed economy beforehand, Germany was not going to have the raw materials it needed to support a Barbarossa sized invasion if he waited mostly due to oil shortages. Even with the oil received in trade with the USSR, If he waited a year Germany would be short just from normal consumption (see Toprani in his book The First War For Oil) so there was no waiting for a "Better invasion". Even if you had more time, Germany in one year could not in any meaningful way close the gap with the USSR in industrial capability and population. An invasion in 42 in a less successful Barbarossa where the tanks run out of fuel sooner. Britain was not going to allow a Militaristic Germany after sacrificing so much to stop it in WW1 and letting it be so would be letting it all be a waste and this first shows itself as appeasement, trying to avoid another war, but as soon as it is clear Hitler cannot be appeased and he will always go back on his word as to how much territory is enough, they prepare for war knowing Hitler will not stop short of starting it, he crosses the red line while invading Poland and I see no scenario where Britain just sits it out, takes a back seat on the world stage by choice after hundreds of years of guiding it. Hitler decided he wanted to start a war that within 2 years would involve him fighting the 3 largest economies on earth with his, in comparison, small country of Germany with just a handful of allies he did not work closely or coordinate with. To give Germany a victory you have to have him make all the right choices and the Allies make all the wrong ones in a storybook esque theory with one assertion built on another and another and so on to where it just becomes fan-fiction. In the realms of actual reality, it is not possible for Hitler to win WW2.

    • @dougstevens1877
      @dougstevens1877 4 роки тому

      @@PotentialHistory You are parroting Hollywood derived history. Britain had a defense pact with Poland (quickly fixed) and then German nationals in Danzig were terrorised and exterminated in masses.. figures of 58 000 killed and tortured. Hitler made speeches about these atrocities beseeching the international community to act against this terrorism. This turned eventually into the actual reason why Germany "invaded Poland". Germany was deliberately forced to rush to the aid of their own people who were left exposed by the spitefully malicious Versailles gang rape of Germany.
      Prof Plotkin is truly misrepresenting Hitler's mind set and ambitions ...unfortunately!
      If Hitler did have ambitions to over power Britain he would definitely not have personally given orders to let such a large contingent of British military be evacuated from Dunkirk.
      David Irving remains one of the most honest and authentic historians in regard to Adolf Hitler.

    • @zekleinhammer
      @zekleinhammer 3 роки тому +6

      “Establish...ethnic purity” this is the insane part imo. And his desire to do this eliminated any chance of winning the war

    • @jakebarnes28
      @jakebarnes28 3 роки тому

      Soros lives in your head rent-free.

    • @lieshtmeiser5542
      @lieshtmeiser5542 3 роки тому +4

      @@dougstevens1877 "German nationals in Danzig were terrorised and exterminated in masses.. figures of 58 000 killed and tortured. "
      Complete wank. Presumably youre referring to 'bloody sunday', and the Poles definitely came out of it worse than the ethnic germans and nazis.

  • @Cronoviajero
    @Cronoviajero 4 роки тому +2

    Brilliant man.

  • @travisfitzwater8093
    @travisfitzwater8093 3 роки тому

    Professor Compton of Princeton is my favorite prof.

  • @acommon1
    @acommon1 3 місяці тому

    S Kotkin is a FAV!!!

  • @soy_tippi
    @soy_tippi 3 роки тому +2

    What does "to garrison china" mean?? at 1:12:03

    • @lieshtmeiser5542
      @lieshtmeiser5542 3 роки тому +1

      "What does "to garrison china" mean??"
      It was simply a comment about Manchuria being such a large land area, with a large population, and that then required Japan to garrison large numbers of troops there, with all the associated logistics.

  • @FreeTurtleboy
    @FreeTurtleboy 4 роки тому +1

    I know you don't believe me......
    Then he challenged them.
    A true teacher
    Enjoyed the honesty.
    101 yrs ago today the War Ended?
    For who ?

  • @ethanedwards420
    @ethanedwards420 4 роки тому +4

    16:35 on the 'Sleepwalker Thesis'

  • @rostikskobkariov5136
    @rostikskobkariov5136 3 роки тому +3

    7:31 Start

  • @MrTylerStricker
    @MrTylerStricker Рік тому

    Dr. Kotkin needs to either run for president or finish volume three of his Stalin trilogy!

  • @maryspencer4274
    @maryspencer4274 3 місяці тому

    Today in early 2024 is this talk prescient to now? I can substitute names and not many countries replacing today's settings. Could we really learn from this gem, Prof Kotkin, this time.

  • @john1425
    @john1425 4 роки тому +27

    Might want to have the video image as Stephen instead of whoever the guy is that is on there now. I almost skipped past this b/c I didn't think it was Kotkin speaking.

    • @davidtrindle6473
      @davidtrindle6473 3 роки тому +2

      They always do this. One administrative type guy introduces a second administrative type guy who introduces Stephen Kotkin to finally get a chance to talk.It’s a joke. If those administrative types had any level of self-awareness they’d be embarrassed,

    • @carlyellison8498
      @carlyellison8498 3 роки тому

      Pfff, all old white males look alike.

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 3 роки тому

      @@carlyellison8498 do old black males?

    • @be12
      @be12 3 роки тому

      @@carlyellison8498 This is getting old

  • @nathanashley2693
    @nathanashley2693 4 роки тому +5

    Kotkin is a legend.

  • @shaunlanighan813
    @shaunlanighan813 3 роки тому +3

    At the end of WWII Stalin said 'There's nothing like War for the proletarianisation of a population '

  • @RhysWilliamsX
    @RhysWilliamsX 4 роки тому +2

    Start: 7:30

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 3 роки тому +3

    11:50 ....a correction. The northern states of The Union of the US were more wealthy than the 11 southern states that were to make up the CSA upon the outbreak of the US Civil War.....a minor detail in the context of this lecture.

  • @chaosdwarf406
    @chaosdwarf406 5 років тому +6

    Where can we learn more about the British plan to destroy the German economy during the First World War? The one which was replaced by the blockade following American resistance? Any name to search by? Any books or articles to share?

    • @andreaspinsker
      @andreaspinsker 4 роки тому +4

      Lambert, N (2012), Planning Armageddon: British economic warfare and the First World War, Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press.

  • @ulovil
    @ulovil 3 роки тому +4

    1:24:50 I live in Russia and can you imagine that I've had cableTV there since 1988. I believe it is not the last reason of USSR falling....

    • @lucaschneider1613
      @lucaschneider1613 3 роки тому

      ? What do you mean.
      I think he was more talking about the 24 hour news cycle.

    • @ulovil
      @ulovil 3 роки тому

      @@lucaschneider1613 oh yeah, now I see. My Soviet cable TV experience is completely the opposite, it's about everything that is NOT official news and politics: only movies, music, and adult content :) But still: I believe it could directly affect to the USSR life :)

    • @1969cmp
      @1969cmp 3 роки тому

      @@ulovil ....that, and the Soviet system was terrible.

  • @jengleheimerschmitt7941
    @jengleheimerschmitt7941 2 роки тому +1

    7:50 is when the other guy stops blathering and Kotkin begins.

  • @butchfriday
    @butchfriday 6 місяців тому

    That was excellent!

  • @mizroba.3238
    @mizroba.3238 2 роки тому +6

    dude demolished the sleepwalking thesis and the schlieffen plan in under 5 mins.

  • @alcoholfree6381
    @alcoholfree6381 Рік тому +2

    I was born 1953 and grew up in an idyllic time in a small Oregon town. My dad brought home a black and white TV when I was 13, we had three channels to watch. Professor Kotkin states near the end of his talk that cable TV has changed the World and I agree 100%! He also said the some people willingly watched CNN, the worst news service in the World!

  • @samson136
    @samson136 4 роки тому

    Could someone send me the link on the british sanctions on germany pre ww1

  • @AmersOnlyGiglinFMRWHCh
    @AmersOnlyGiglinFMRWHCh 2 роки тому

    Please see description area too please.
    For Gary Smollett Case | I don't have to say anything about Jodi Foster - UA-cam

  • @tannerhagen774
    @tannerhagen774 Рік тому +1

    Just read the The Schlieffen Plan, it’s fairly straightforward that Germans went ahead with the plan it was just edited, such as not going into Netherlands expecting a possible British blockade.

  • @shanemeyer7989
    @shanemeyer7989 4 роки тому +10

    Here for the Joe Pesci comments!

  • @Th0ughtf0rce
    @Th0ughtf0rce 3 роки тому +6

    Came for the Joe Pesci comments, stayed for the whole lecture.

    • @1969cmp
      @1969cmp 3 роки тому

      😁😂🤣😎

  • @jmwSeattle
    @jmwSeattle 3 роки тому +2

    It’s too bad there wasn’t a Roman like Luke there to document the glorious beginning:
    “Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us,
    just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us,
    it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus,
    that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.”

  • @brownlettuce1810
    @brownlettuce1810 4 роки тому +1

    Fix the volume. Half of what he says is inaudible. Otherwise interesting.

  • @johngreco5813
    @johngreco5813 4 роки тому +30

    MSNBC = Red Army TV, that made me laugh out loud! Prof Kotkin is a delight to listen to.

    • @actionflower6706
      @actionflower6706 3 роки тому +1

      k tom Yup. They sure are sneaky those Fox News national socialists. The deep deep cover that orange man bad uses to throw discerning commentators off the scent is really quite ingenious. So for reasons of compassion and social justice and sticking up for the little guy the Dems give a plane load of money and an invitation to build nuclear weapons to the moderate oppressed velayit e faqih progressive ayatollahs in Iran. Their peaceful freedom fighting friend Hassan Nasrallah declares Israel to be “ a one bomb state”. He declares himself happy if all the world’s Jewry gather in Israel to save himself the trouble of hunting them all down. Probably just a joke, right, and the uptight Israelites should probably just laugh it off, like the bombs and stabbings and the wars in 1948 and and 1967 and the rest of it? The terrible bad orange man meanwhile decides to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel ( London the capital of England, Paris the capital of France, crazy extreme stuff like that.) The peaceful progressive compassionate freedom fighters are Deeply Offended by this of course. Very dangerous to deeply offend people like Abu Nidal and Osama Bin Laden in defence of Israel’s right to exist. If Trump really cared about the Jews he would tell them to put down their weapons and let Hisbollah walk across the border and cut their throats in a wise and statesmanlike and sensitive style. He even hides his anti Semitic leanings by having multiple Jews in his family. He is in DEEP cover.

    • @lukewarme9121
      @lukewarme9121 3 роки тому +2

      k tom - Nazi’s weren’t Capitalists, they were National Socialists. Fox News promotes Capitalism. We can blame the Fake News for your brainwashing.

    • @crazymulgogi
      @crazymulgogi 3 роки тому +3

      Actually, Kotkin is a moderate, politically, who advocates investing in community colleges etc., to improve upward mobility. That's more or less Bernie stuff.
      But he's allergic to naive, anticapitalist leftism and he has a sense of humor.

    • @lukewarme9121
      @lukewarme9121 3 роки тому +1

      @@crazymulgogi - the more educated people are, from ALL sides, of the political spectrum the better off 🇺🇸 is. Unfortunately, the majority of Americans don’t have the time, resources, or desire to educate themselves to make 🇺🇸 better. There’s a lot of apathy until reality hits them $$$ and they support the political party that offers them the “free lunch.”

    • @crazymulgogi
      @crazymulgogi 3 роки тому

      @@lukewarme9121 I don't think the problem of this moment in US history is about people wanting free lunches.
      It is about opportunity for everybody. Capitalism is fine and dandy, but Nigeria is capitalist too. America needs to find out where its 1950s and 1960s prosperity came from. How much did education cost. Housing. How easy was it to get a decent job. Who paid how much in taxes.
      Compare that with 2020 and you see that this equilibrium which was the condition for prosperity has been destroyed by the 1%, which successfully manoeuvred the US way too far to the right.
      This is not rocket science.

  • @jeffersonwright9275
    @jeffersonwright9275 2 роки тому +2

    I like how he finishes up using the analogy of a house of cards to talk about China. He’s not saying they are, he asks if they are, ie if Chinese institutions are not as flexible and reliable as the West’s, what should we do about it?

  • @thetaqjr
    @thetaqjr Рік тому

    I suggest there are other men and women of similar talents whom we would love to hear but will never know about. It is such a thin slice. I’d like an introduction to some of them.

  • @hakayma7560
    @hakayma7560 3 роки тому

    1:16:00 'a lot of people were prepared for war,...because of strategic calculus that war could deliver gains' -
    -what gains from war we got?

    • @PresidentialWinner
      @PresidentialWinner 3 роки тому +2

      What gains could winning a war get you? Territory, resources, prestige, power etc. A larger nation, a more powerful, more abundant empire with better technology and a larger share of the world.

  • @bleacherz7503
    @bleacherz7503 3 роки тому

    I wonder if Kotkin would answer the last question differently today ?

  • @jakebarnes28
    @jakebarnes28 3 роки тому +2

    Every war plants the seeds for the next. War requires taxation. James Madison.

  • @petereiso5415
    @petereiso5415 3 роки тому

    what does 1o1 mean?

    • @nicks3350
      @nicks3350 3 роки тому

      It means basic/beginners lessons. I.e driving 101 could be “don’t crash.”

  • @monikagrosch9632
    @monikagrosch9632 Рік тому +1

    Let’s not forget: the Russian word for peace ‘mir’ can also be translated as ‘ the world’ !

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 2 роки тому

    very interesting

  • @philippajoy4300
    @philippajoy4300 3 місяці тому

    Those who complain about revisionism should listen to Kotkin. One day we may have the Chinese documents, and history will have to be revised again.

  • @ianfleischhacker6154
    @ianfleischhacker6154 3 роки тому +5

    Sleep-walking into war -this, at least to me, seems more of a reference to how a collective society just kind of goes along with things due to habitual apathy. It's not like young mothers and steel factory workers were issuing orders to prepare for war.

    • @DerDop
      @DerDop 3 роки тому

      Sometimes you need war, see Nagorno-Karabakh. If you are Armenia will you let your own people to be massacred?

    • @ericstapleton9577
      @ericstapleton9577 3 роки тому

      @@DerDop poor Armenia fought a war on 2 fronts

    • @ericstapleton9577
      @ericstapleton9577 3 роки тому

      @@DerDop SOAD is still my favorite band

    • @ShahjahanMasood
      @ShahjahanMasood 3 роки тому

      @@ericstapleton9577 they got their ass handed to them

  • @jackbov123
    @jackbov123 6 місяців тому

    What Prof. Kotkin misses is the importance of the inability of the Japanese governments to adjust the size of voting districts so that all voting districts have similar voting numbers.

  • @420Kyle1620
    @420Kyle1620 3 роки тому

    And here we are...

  • @coolworx
    @coolworx 5 років тому +51

    The Joe Pesci of historians!

    • @roc7880
      @roc7880 3 роки тому +6

      I think Joe would be honored to be considered the Kotkin of actors

    • @bartroberts3634
      @bartroberts3634 3 роки тому +2

      Exactly what I was thinking!"My Cousin Vinny"!

    • @JD-qf8ul
      @JD-qf8ul 3 роки тому +1

      Funny guy

    • @coolworx
      @coolworx 3 роки тому +4

      @@JD-qf8ul Funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? How da fuck am I funny? What da fuck is so funny about me? Tell me. Tell me what's funny.

    • @RollandGarros02
      @RollandGarros02 Рік тому

      Is it the voice or the appearance? 😅

  • @danscalia7427
    @danscalia7427 4 роки тому +4

    I love Kotkin- but I am not sure it’s accurate for him to state at roughly 53 minutes that Hitler sought to end/destroy the British Empire.

    • @roc7880
      @roc7880 3 роки тому

      yes he did in order to take over it. His mistake was attacking Soviet Union before finishing Britain off. He had a window of invading England between 40 and 41 but he did not have guts to do it. I think that attacking Soviet Union was a terrible mistake still

    • @clifffff7630
      @clifffff7630 3 роки тому

      Yes, Kotkin and the main stream historical view point which he espouses are wrong and you are right. Hitler neither intended nor acted to destroy the British empire and absorb its dominion. He was merely lashing out because his toothbtush moustache did not really catch on amongst the gentlemen in the Isles...

    • @ishmaelforester9825
      @ishmaelforester9825 3 роки тому

      Ostensibly Hitler had no designs on the Empire but do you think he approved of its liberal trajectory?

    • @ishmaelforester9825
      @ishmaelforester9825 3 роки тому

      Britain is a liberal society and was always going to dissolve it's colonial empire. Hitler was ready to deal with the arch imperialists but not the general current of British society which was always moving toward liberating the Empire.

    • @ishmaelforester9825
      @ishmaelforester9825 3 роки тому

      Churchill saido, 'an appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' The British misjudged and underestimated Hitler and the nazis and there traditional policy toward Europe basically went up in smoke.

  • @gvbrandolini
    @gvbrandolini 2 роки тому +1

    Interessante

  • @llywelynyllevyn1176
    @llywelynyllevyn1176 6 місяців тому

    Another fine lecture from the Dickey center at Dartmouth. Well that's an interesting combination of words from the highly educated scholars. Kotkit like what, tiktok, I think tiktok has some dartmouths. These series are addictive, like a kottik. What better place to discuss war and March madness than Dartmouth. The March to madness with Marx and basket balls and baskets of artillery shells during the great War. In Flanders fields the poppies grow, the Enfields pop with sunset glow in flanderers fields the ball is thrown the game is known the scorn is shown. Row on row the scorn does grow, the scorn rows in flanderers fields. We the dead, short days ago felt sunset glow and now we lie in flanderers field, March madness marched us row by row, where poppies grow in Flanders fields we shall not rest though we lie in flander fields. Why did all those men die in Flanders field, from agriculture corn to multiculture scorn in flanderers field. Scholar and scholarship, scholarship has sank and floundered, scholarship has lost it's founder, where'd you founder in flanderers fields we founder where poppies grow corn rows on row. We the brave say Enfields more scholarship has blown the door, the dart has flown from mouth to scorn and torn the scholar from his ship in Flanders fields the enfields pop row on row. LLXIIX77

  • @nathanmoore101
    @nathanmoore101 3 роки тому

    Such in depth analysis yet the balfour declaration is not mentioned as a contributing factor in geopolitical motivations. I wonder why? It's not like he's not aware of it.

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker 2 роки тому

    starts at 7:35.

  • @antitiktokunion3894
    @antitiktokunion3894 3 роки тому +4

    Kotkin is an amazing historian I also like Ian Kershaw and Piers Brendon. Whenever I see people make fun of Kotkin I feel bad for him because he works really hard on these books and getting his information on them. But we all have our haters.

    • @jamesgornall5731
      @jamesgornall5731 2 роки тому

      Who makes fun of him? His books are incredible

    • @antitiktokunion3894
      @antitiktokunion3894 2 роки тому

      @@jamesgornall5731 ugh I seen a few Kotkin haters some Stalin supporters others just plain haters but we all have our haters.

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 3 роки тому

    When it comes to historical writing, in particular, it's all about footnotes. A quick look at the footnotes of a book tells you everything about the scholarship.

  • @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858
    @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 17 днів тому

    The Paul Simon of history

  • @paulrevere2379
    @paulrevere2379 3 роки тому +1

    Vincent Gambini's intellectually giant cousin.
    I think Fred Gwynn would even approve, even without a necktie.

  • @getevennow
    @getevennow Місяць тому +1

    Sage

  • @rovertdluag6648
    @rovertdluag6648 4 роки тому +2

    What was worse Germany or Russia ? Which country was responsible for the most civilian death ?

  • @efanshel
    @efanshel 4 місяці тому

    I wonder if anyone in our government consults with him...or even has people keeping abreast of his scholarship...

  • @DiviAugusti
    @DiviAugusti 4 роки тому +5

    This guy always uses the first two minutes to work on his standup routine.

  • @roc7880
    @roc7880 3 роки тому

    indeed

  • @stevenkennedy
    @stevenkennedy 6 років тому +4

    You rock!

  • @bekrijasam
    @bekrijasam 3 роки тому +3

    What kind of History is?
    Just scratching the surface. Go deep ,follow the trail of money.

  • @clearyourthirdeye
    @clearyourthirdeye 9 місяців тому

    33:01

  • @Alexander-qd7nj
    @Alexander-qd7nj 3 роки тому +1

    Its not just modern history, they did the same in ancient history