Is Wu Wa good? Yes wuthering waves is good (I didn't say better). Allow me to gave you some little news: - you can make combos of different characters depending of the certain conditions - you can pick a 5 star weapon and it's always... Guaranteed (all banners; 80 pity as hard pity; starter not counted.) - you will get a starter free 5 star weapon if pre-registered - free wishes both from pre-register, rewards in mail and maybe the daily log in like in PGR (Kuro's first game release, I guess.) - You can parkour and double jump, You can use echo (pokemon?) and their system well, players have to find out for themselves. Those are the things I can say is certified as for the 5 star standard character pick... well, that's to be confirmed in the release. Still players have options to choose weather to play WuWa as they please or not play it. It's a 16+ game and it does have some end game I heard, since I haven't tried CBT. As for the story... I dunno, I only heard they change like 90% of the story. Anyways Goodluck in your choices guys.
Tbh it’s probably because Genshin haters have attached themselves to the wuthering waves community, and genshin whales are afraid of losing their thousands of $ of “investment” and having to reset
That's crazy, cause I just opened the video and there is a WuWa ad right now as I'm replying to this comment of yours. It's the Jianxin showcase trailer
True, in my opinion, comparing ZZZ & WuWa is like comparing Devil May Cry & Zelda Breath Of The Wild, I mean, two games with sweet action gameplay, but yeah, the real thing they have in common is the Gacha RPG tag and that's all o/
Ive honestly thought the weird "Genshin killer!" Or "Wuthering waves is horrible!" Comments are so incredibly stupid, you suddenly cant just have a discussion about Hsr, Genshin, or Wuthering waves without people feeling the need to bring someone else down because they prefer one over the other. I play Genshin and Hsr, I enjoy the characters, story, and combat of both, and when Wuthering Waves hopefully releases on Ps5 I hope ill enjoy that one too. The strange toxic mindset that you cant enjoy more then one of these games at a time is weird to say the least. There are things in Star rail I prefer over Genshin and vice versa, im sure when Wuthering waves releases ill enjoy things in that game more then the others as well. In the end i feel these strange wars are pointless (I do agree itll be good for genshin to have competition dont get me wrong) but when all the fans do is bash on someone else for which game they like more, all it does is create resentment between both communities, personally im looking forward to enjoying all three games, and i cant wait to see where their stories go!
I think the unfortunate fact is that Genshin is SO popular that it kind of lives rent-free in people's heads. This already happened previously with TOF, where its "fans" were mostly just Genshin haters. That was also the reason why TOF players were rabidly holding onto the game despite its major flaws and copyright issues. I see a similar thing happening with WuWa, but to a much tamer scale. Probably because Genshin is 4 years old at this point, and HSR already exists to be the game that Genshin haters can flock to.
@@NijiKonohana Oh definitely! I wasn’t into Genshin during the TOF drama, but I heard how bad it was. I think it’s crazy how even when Genshin does do something cool or tries to change for the better the vocal haters won’t even acknowledge it and still find a way to bring Genshin and its fans down. The most common term I’ve seen is “mintpicker,” you can literally get called a mintpicker for simply enjoying a specific factor about Genshin or saying you prefer the casual feel of it. One of my personal favorite parts about Genshin is the story and fleshed out lore I’m a sucker for detailed and well thought out stories. I do believe Genshin can sometimes execute the story poorly, but to me that doesn’t take away how fascinating and cool it is. One of the biggest things I’ve seen is people calling the story mid, then parading their opinion around like it’s the only correct one and any other opinion is wrong. Since most of the people clinging to WuWa and the ones that were clinging to TOF, are having/had a toxic positivity mindset towards them were most likely once Genshin fans it seems like they’re so bitter about their personal dissatisfaction and disappointment that they can’t handle the thought of others actually enjoying the game, It’s sad really.
Thing with WuWa designs is that, they ARE detailed, in fact they are more detailed than Hoyo ones : they have different body-types, different faces etc etc, but due to Kuro games love for depressive monochromic colours (they are big fans of Nier Automata designs) their characters can't infect your memory. It's like, you take Genshin character or HSR character and this character gonna get your attention, because it's whole appearance is made the way that causes your brain to pay attention. While WuWa designs colour-way are too simplistic and dim, due to what you can easily ignore them, since they can't catch your eye, they can't force you to keep your attention. Beside that, it's really more of a tastes matter, some people like more gray-ish colours and worlds, others like more vibrant ones.
Wuwa's gotten hella vibrant and colorful since the last CBTs. Also, youre right and wrong about what makes the characters appealing. Yeah the vibrant colors play a big part but so does the actual design of the character Pretty sure guys like Jiyan and Kakarot have caught many people's attentions. Cloud Strife, Sephiroth and Zack Fair from Final Fantasy 7 have very dark and muted colors and even then theyre among the most iconic characters. So like I said, vibrant colors ain't everything. The overall appearance and the importance of the characters in the stories play a big part too
The main thing for me personally is that theres so many characters with the same hair color, style, height, etc. ON TOP of similar color palettes. I have the same issue with PGR, it's difficult to differentiate a lot of the designs.
I wouldn’t say they are simplistic at all. If anything they are just as complicated as genshin. I mean have u seen the amount of belts each character wears 😭 there is this video series that dissects wuthering waves models and just wow. The details, the tiny details in all of them is so cool
@@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1 tbf they're iconic because in all those dark colors, they have something to separate them from others - ie Cloud's hair and sword, Sephiroph's.... everything, really, and Zack is because we all cried while playing CC. But overall kuro just suffers with character designs - like yeah, characters are good looking, but i've seen these designs in pso2, they all look like some random players you would meet in a raid there, alongside with some people who make huge booba and a$$ using accessories and people in bird costumes cosplaying solid snake for n-th time. only wuwa doesnt have the second type, and only the first, so while an eyecandy - they all just mash together into a unidentifiable soup, and this is an issue in pgr too, for the most part.
I think the design of WW's characters is too subtle and practical with a similar color palette, which makes them look underwhelming. Most Gacha gamers are used to seeing the characters with exact details and a stand-out color scheme for quite some time now. Since they can't fix or add more detail to the launch characters, They've to change the approach in terms of character design after Yinlin's banner If they want to appeal to the majority of people, they need to improve on this topic.
About the character designs - I personally like how their characters fit within the world. Kuro did this in Punishing, too. When you put them all side by side, the color pallets seem “samey”, but in game, their aesthetics mesh together nicely with the world and each other. Like, you don’t feel like there’s these weird alien designs/characters made to stand out on purpose. They stand out in other ways and individually. It truly helps with immersion. The sheer amount of voiceover is just nice - it reminds me of Honkai 3rd, in that respect.
I always thought that Wuthering Waves' colour palettes was meant to kinda show character's living situations. If the basline is black, then it's either worn by the common folk or those in the military to show uniformity (Calcharo and that bearded dude I assume) but those who can afford more will have more colour, like Jiyan whose a general wearing green or Scar and his cohort having red. Even Yuanwu and Yangyang could fit into this idea, since they both wear blue (granted i know nothing of them so my point kinda falls there) Heck, for some characters it could be argued that white is also a baseline colour, like of Jianxin, who is a monk and mostly wears white and black with touches of green. I get that it can be repetitive, and it kind of meshes together, but I like to imagine that it does more to characterise everyone by having black and white be the colour baseline. Even if it isn't a baseline, black and white's colours could be significant in terms of symbolism. Those with mostly black have some form of experience with the harsher world. Those in white don't have that same *trauma* like Verina, and those wearing both could have a mixed view of the world, like Aalto, Baizhi, Encore, Danjin, or even that magistrate lady. I will say though, I think that people tend to look at these characters more as a selling point (which isn't bad in any way) rather than pieces of a puzzle in a larger world, which is probably where opinions about colour use may come in. Like Arlechinno, for example, she's one of the few characters in Genshin who has a monochromatic colour palette, which could refer to the apparent rumour her being an anomaly of some sort. Just my thoughts.
fair point, but honestly if that's the case, then they need to be more variative and brave with the shape. for example, face shape, body shape, height, scar, beauty mark etc. so copy paste face and body shape doesn't really work here if they want to use the black and white scheme.
@pon9035 That's a fair point. If not that, then they should also consider the effects that shape language has a bit more when designing characters, like Aatlo. When I see his silhouette, I immediately see a rectangle, which usually means trustworthy and reliable, which is aided by his shoulders which give off circles, which read as friednly and gentle, unless it's meant to be a subversion of expectations. The same could be said with Danjin, who has the same rectangle, but her shoulders are more triangular, which could read off as her being fast and aggressive, her pancho is even more sharp than Aatlo's from what I've seen. If not that, give us a harpy woman or other intense mutations to dial up the variety.
@@pon9035I don’t think you Genshin fan have the right to complain about face and model. Go take a real good look at your actual in game model Mr. Diluc have a good design
I disagree about the characters. They do have an emphasis on darker and more muted colors, but that’s clearly an artistic choice which fits with the setting and story. If you’re not a fan of that, it’s fine. Others will like it, just as it was with Nier which Kuro games takes inspiration from. Even then, I don’t think there’s a big lack of color variety, especially in the female characters department despite the black and white base colors. There’s always a third or fourth color in the mix. I also disagree on the model and outfit details. Characters in wuwa have distinctly different eye shapes, eye make-up, and hair styles, and their outfits and ornaments have some nice details like Jiyan’s outfit with the dragon theme, yangyang’s hair tie and hair feathers, yinlin’s puppet strings. Just to name a few. Also, I’ll say this. At least the men have some damn muscles on them. No noodle arms, and actual abs and pectoral muscles. Also, if you see footage of the game, the characters have a lot of expression on their face.
the thing is tho, they have nier characters in pgr... and nier characters + BRS look more unique than the whole cast of pgr. when collab characters look more unique and interesting than the basic forms of your og characters - thats when it is an issue. their issue isnt the colors - the designs are.
@@SorarikoMotone nier and brs characters look better than the basic forms of game’s og characters? Lol ok buddy. That’s pretty much not the case, but I won’t argue.
I dont want to comment about the design but without any context on the game, no one stands out for me. I'll probably like or dislike the characters based on how they are in game, but the make or break for me is the story, I like genshin's initial story bc it's simple, nothing too complicated at first. If the game threw me into a complicated story at the beginning while I'm still adjusting and learning the world I'll probably rush and skip it.
"desaturated" "monochromatic" "variety" I think majority of these streamers and CCs are not good at criticizing or making an opinion regarding art direction. People generally prefer hoyo's designs becasue they use the tried and tested saturated, colorful, bright and maximalist designs. And color theory and psychology aubmits that people are generally attracted to the aforementioned. It's not because they objectively have better graphic artists and designers. Furina and Neuvilette is mostly monochromatic using different values of blue. The same way Sanhua is mostly monochromatic with black and white tones with red and gold accents. Variety in character designs doesn't necessarily mean variety in color alone. Genshin's body models aren't varied as well. There's basically short chibi, teen, and adult. For me personally, I prefer Kuro's art direction specially with PGR. They seem more practical and mature. More minimalist and tech wear-inspired. They remind me of Yoji Shinkawa's character designs and Nier. It's ironic because Hoyo's art direction is now becoming so ubiquitous and dare I say generic exactly because all of the recently announced gachas are all going for that saturated and maximalist designs. Take a character from ZZZ and Project Mugen and they'll just blend with each other worlds just as well. Take a charavter from Azure Promelia and Genshin and they'll fit just fine. Same with HSR and ToF. So far, the only Gachas I've played and seen with relatively unique art direction is Arknights, Endfield, Limbus, PGR, WW, PtN, and Reverse 1999. All hoyo games, Higan, Project Mugen, ToF, Azure Promelia, etc. looks like they share so similar art direction. 13:10 that is not the general sentiment though. Literally no one is saying that save for some few creators and fans.
True, if we applied that “No over-saturated color = bad design” logic, 2B, A2 from Nier, Vergil and Dante from DMC, Kratos from GOW, All of the characters from Metal Gear Rising and Solid, characters from Persona , Final Fantasy characters, Doom slayer from Doom would be considered one of the worst characters designs ever made. But the truth is it’s the opposite, they are one of the most well desinged and iconic characters ever in video games history. When it comes to good characters design, people have to base on color theories, the use of shape language, how the characters design tied into the stories or the world they are in. not some kind of designs that are only made for people with short attention span. This can also be applied to other media as well like anime, movies and novel since fundamentally speaking, they all work under the same rules. Guts from Berserk, Miyamoto Musashi from Vagabond, Johan and Tenma from monster are one of the best most iconic manga/anime characters ever created. And don’t even let me mention about the group of people who are obsessed with tactical and tactical military designs. I also agree that Arknight, Reverse 1999, Limbus have one of the most beautiful characters design in gacha games. Their design are all well thought which fit perfectly to their characters, the world they are in and their personality. Their designs are all so unique and mature, not to mention the amount of variety in Arknight lol. Speaking of Arknight, I remember someone from Genshin was shitting on Arknight characters designs over a year ago and arkinght community made a whole fashion show on the reply lol.
and you can put wuwa and pgr characters into pso2 and they will fit there because such designs of outfits or very similar ones already exist there and people already wear them, and they actually at least try to make them look interesting
I disagree with 4th paragraph. ZZZ designs are just bad period compared to any hoyoverse game, it has nothing do with their style getting repetitive, in fact, id say they perfected genshin formula and applied to hsr to make by far most appealing designs out there.
Sorry but thats not the case in my opinion. Both games are inherent competitors due to the fact that they share the exact same genre with few In between differences. The fact that UI is identical to genshin already speaks volumes about who the targeted audience for this game is, i believe there is only 2 scenarios for this game: it makes +- same amount of money as genshin(less likely), or it falls to obscurity and becomes second coming of tof... With perhaps better monthly revenue but not even 1/30 of genshin (more likely), thats how it works. Games that similar cannot coexist on the market in harmony because the customer has to make a choice. I believe genshin works very well as parallel to world of warcraft - theres many competitors out there, but ultimately, which one will turn out to be ffxiv and which ones will become many wow killers that dont even exist anymore?
@@kiuhh1118competition is good. It pushes Kuro and Hoyo to do better. Especially we are getting more anime gacha games in the future with Azure Promilia ( did i spell it right?), Project Mugen, and Unending Dawn. More and more games will try to infiltrate the gacha space. This incentivizes these companies to innovate in order to garner more players to their game. Sure, it’s going to be hard or near impossible to reach the amount of following hoyo gets. I would even say Genshin paved the way for these games to even exist. But I personally think that having different variety of gacha games to try would be a win. Especially for players who don’t have access to triple AAA games or consoles. Objectively speaking, WW and Genshin can exist together and have been proven by other games like PUBG/Fortnite, Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat, CounterStrike/Valorant, and the list goes on. These games have the same genre but their playerbase have played the counterparts interchangeably because one game offers something different from the other. Competition is what lead these games to what they are now. Which I’m hoping to be the same with Kuro and Hoyo.
I will never understand the obsession for a "game killer". Sure we can put pressure on hoyo by talking like this but y'all do understand that if a game "dies" and eventually gets shut down, there is no return since it's server-side. Many players complain about Genshin because they love the game and want it to be better, but there are also many other people who just want to see it fail because they're salty that it's still one of the best with so many loyal fans. Both games can co-exist in a competitive environment without "killing" the other, which will lead to quality of life improvements for the both of them. It's more beneficial for us, really. We get two awesome games to play for free.
This. I don't love genshin as much as I used but that's just cuz i feel disheartened by how it seems to respond to player feedback which is why I'm excited for Wuthering. It's a chance for Genshin to see some more competition that'll encourage it to be better on top of Wuthering just looking interesting on its own merits
@@alexandermattis2940 Agreed Whenever Genshin players complain, it takes ages to receive even a slight acknowledgement, and even then, they are perceived as ungrateful. Genshin is truly lucky to have received such a strong and loyal fanbase throughout the years but, by now, they should know better. When you compare it to HSR, a one year old game from the same company, it's hard not to feel disheartened. It truly makes you wonder what they do all these surveys for. I fear that the overwhelming amount of money Genshin makes in a year makes them less inclined to change things up. Yes, the story and world-building are fascinating and the characters are lovable, but patches are starting to feel more and more like a business exchange. I hope that they start learning from the HSR team lol I can't blame the fans for wanting something more and I hope WW can live up to even a fraction of their expectations and gain it's own identity so that hoyo can feel the pressure to apply changes to their own formula.
@@slow_unsteady It's nice to know others feel similarly to how I do cuz although I stopped playing Genshin due to how dissatisfied I was, that doesn't mean I hate it, I just want it to be better and I'm hoping that competition gives it that push it needs cuz I still love the game want to come back to it
@@alexandermattis2940 I hope it does! I still find myself having fun doing nothing and just exploring despite having capped resin lmao. That's how you know a game is good. However, it's annoying to know that the game could be so much better if hoyo truly put their mind to it. Idk anything about coding but I know that players have been giving feedback for years. It's just a frustrating sight to behold.
I really dont get the character design part. Maybe its just my own tastes but i feel like the characters are pretty varied and they look really good, eye candy type. Like I can pretty much tell what vibe they got just through their appearance. Also the ZZZ and Wuwa comparison is mostly because both are the most hyped unreleased gacha. Tbh my current opinion of ZZZ is just its another combat focused gacha which is kind of a tight competition since HI3, PGR, and Wuwa does combat really good so my incentive to play it is its just the stylized art style. I look forward to trying endfield and promilia more tbh
@@kiuhh1118 I didnt even compare the character designs but sure ill play your game. First thing first, I dont give a crap about your "majority cope" maybe try comparing in detail next time?Unfortunately, I have a flawed sense of beauty so prolly little people will share my views. Wuwa has very good designs that feel realistic yet remains in a 2d art style and is quite attractive. HSR gets really busy and weird sometimes but it still works as a high tier eye candy. HI3 older valkyries were crap but the newer ones are on HSR level (i forgor when it started to get better). Genshin puts too much effort on the anime part that they mostly create minor looking ahh characters despite them being adults. I also heavily dislike a lot of factors including diluc's baby face, itto's drawn abs, albedo expectations vs in game model etc. etc..
A lot of them just look very similar. Similar hairstyles, colors, heights, etc, on top of ALL having the exact same skintone. Seriously, 3 tall pale men with the same shade of white hair and middle-part bangs, two of them w long hair? Same goes for the 3 tall women with black hair and the exact same bangs. It makes them blend together. Genshins base models are less varied, and theyre certainly not bastions of skin diversity, but its easier to tell the characters apart bc of the larger variety of colors and styles + *a couple* skin variations thrown in there.
@@arandom5926 , no one cares about detail, what matters is if people like it or not. As you said it yourself, you have "flawed" beauty standard so it would be weird for you to argue otherwise. Wuthering waves always struggled with designs ever since first technical test, they look quite boring and frankly not interesting. I believe this artstyle could have worked better for a manga or an anime, where character design isnt the deciding factor behind your product success and appeal, however for a gacha game, i have no desire to pull anyone at all, i look at jiyan - he looks like a generic china wind boy(totally not done before trope), i look at yinlin - she just looks like a coomer bait with very little detail to her outfit that would make it more interesting. And standard characters could all pose as 4* besides maybe calcharo, but he doesn't feel that interesting to me either, his face looks weird and his model is too skinny for a character image they were going for.
@@kiuhh1118 thats your opinion , so far players who wanna play wuwa on facebook talk about how great the characters looks , + u keep yapping about the characters in genshin and how good they all look lmao , go to google search for kazuha and the male MC side by side and look at the face lmao same shit just different hair , oh and u didnt talk about genshin models same shit for everyone lmao
People need to understand that both games can co-exist and hating on the one does not make the other any better, sure you might not like the fact that Genshin has competition but competition is good because it means that the devs now feel pressure, or an at least have an incentive to work harder, Genshin's been at the top for so long, and when you're at the top with no real competition you tend to stop trying as hard to make a good game, that's when things become half-assed, or the players aren't happy etc. If you genuinely dislike the fact that Hoyoverse has competition or that Genshin *might* not be the number one game of it's genre, then that's a *you* problem, people that actively shit on Wuwa for gaining the attraction that it has, are literally being defensive over a bunch of pixels, if you don't like it, don't pay attention to it, I understand people have spent time, money and effort into Genshin but it really doesn't matter, because Genshin could literally decide to shut down tomorrow, and Mihoyo could cease to operate and then what? There's a *very* thin line between passion and obsession, and the people who obsess over these pixels need professional help.
I never understood why people feel the need to debate over whether X game is a better version of Y game or A game is plagiarizing B game, like as long as they do it well I'll be happy either way because I just want more fun games to play lol, the main reason I even played Genshin at all was because the idea of a game like botw that was live service had me really excited
Am i the only one who actually likes the WuWa characters way more than genshin? (Some exceptions like Wriothesley is my fave design in genshin and he is mostly black styled) I think its actually just a preference
It is preference, and when WuWa end up like ToF 1 month into the game, you'll know that WUWA preference are for the minority. Don't blame "no marketing" this time. Because wuwa ccs are the noisiest people on the internet.
@@JojoDigitalArtist So is hoyos.... It's going to happen. Animating and designing a video game is a lot of work, sometimes it's easier and less stressful to make a base model and then change things for each character. Some examples for hoyo, The knave (genshin) and boothil (star rail), Raiden (genshin), Archeron (star rail), seela (star rail). On top of that it makes sense that their outfits would look similiar, since they are in an APOCOLYPTIC setting, they probably don't have many options on where to get their clothes from...
Tbh, the combat in Wuthering felt more like Honkai 3rd but smoother (and I love H3’s combat). I really enjoyed the beta and am excited for its release next week - I’m also excited for the English voiceover and to see what they’ve changed and added. Also, Scar is just flat out cool.
The zzz comparison is primarily due to them being near release. People are also hyper focusing in on the endgame combat since thats where most of the vocal discontent about genshin. Which is more similar to zzz than genshin.
The feeling of blandness come because you didn't familiar with design philosophy yet, if we see it closely and breakdown each character you definitely will see how different they are. I have the same opinion at the first time I try to watch Gundam, every main mecha has the same color scheme and using the same design cue. It only starting to feel different when I familiar with the design, and suddenly I can see how different every design philosophy for each series.
i totally agree with the identity stuff i mean when genshin came out everyone called a botw clone it was only after it was given time it became its own thing
I disagree. WW already has its own identity. There are already so many things that sets it apart from Genshin. Some of the things they have in the game is from PGR. The reason why people have been constantly comparing the two is because they’re the same genre and coincidentally working on similar things.
I agree that none of the characters really stick out... the art direction is just extremely not for me... I feel like they could have the characters be dark toned and still not have strange things like character's hair and primary clothes color matching... But of course... it's all IMHO... I'm honestly happy for people who are happy with them. it's just not my cup of tea.
Wuwa designs are mature, varied and detailed which i ADORE The only genshin chars i like in design are chars like arlecchino and neuvillete and furina where they have more details than others but they still dont compare to wuwa theyre just brighter dopamine colors I think wuwa is beautiful and i think ill personally find wuwa to be more aesthetically pleasing than genshin based on all the scenery ive seen. I was blown away with wuwas graphics in some clips ive seen. Absolutely stunning. Playing PGR, I have no doubt in my mind WuWa will be amazing to play. Gameplay, graphics, look amazing Fuluoluo (spider lily lady) I LOVE HER DESIGN SM scar is super attractive Jiyan looks so cool yinlin... need i say more? HAHAHA but I fell in love with the rover's attention to detail. Before anything was even announced for cbt2, I saw leaks of the rover and INSTANTLY WANTED TO PLAY THEM. Theyre both so pretty. Much more impressive than the main character for genshin. And it seems like rover will actually be important, a character you can actually use. Im thrilled. OH RIGHT AND EXPLORATION LOOKS WAYYY FUNNER TOO. Climbing on walls, limitless stamina(unless you sprint) parkour, grappling hook, glider.. all of it screams SPEED. I think id have fun just running on walls tbh. Its much better than how slow genshin is.. the limited stamina, the climbing is painful.. the only thing that makes exploration tolerable in genshin is scara since he just zooms everywhere without wasting stamina. The endgame modes? Hello? Those look shook fun to play. I can totally picture myself coming online just to play that regardless of rewards (though ive heard the rewards are fair/decent/good) which is ALREADY a MAJOR step up from genshin with its lackluster rewards and challenges. I think wuwa will be a AMAZING GAME. with a AMAZING START. And it will only GROW from here on out.
sprinting does not consume stamina only running up walls/climbing does as well as when you are sprinting during combat or dodging that also consumes stamina.
I get the character design part, if you put black and white in all of them and if their outfit all looks like a uniform, then yeah, it takes the uniquiness away, like i get it is a post apocalyptic world but was the pre apocalypse world as minimalistic as it is now that you don't even see a pair of ripped jeans somewhere there? I think this is why Scar, Jinyan and Yinlin are popular, they are kinda the only ones that actually stand out, also what's with the white hair obssesion lmao like half of the cast is white haired, im a fan of white hair characters but this is too much 😂
What Pre-apocalyptic? The world is basically several centuries minimum after the Lament and the Discords are still there. The last Rover at the earliest was 200 or so years ago (probably not that early) Ripped jeans would not be on anyone's minds Edit-> A real fan of White hair would never admit that there is too much white hair. Only 8 together. 4 man and 4 woman. Most of the woman have black hair and another colour. You only see that because there are less men.
Genshin devs do their Poc Characters dirty, either giving them shit kit or by making them overshadowed by other characters. (Examples are Dehya and Xinyan, they didn't need to do my girls dirty, and Cyno being powercrept by other electro dps despite being recently released)
Same with HSR and HI3rd, My boy Arlan looks so cool with his big sword only for him to be the shittest character in the game, and Carole is just super underwhelming.
if we wanna talk about darker skinned characters, then yes, gameplay wise they absolutely did, but my question is, thats not really a comparison when wuwa doesnt even have ANY, like who are you comparing how they handle it to? wuwa? because i dont see a single bit of melanin, not even cyno level which is a tan if anything, also youre using PoC wrong since PoC includes asians and hoyo obviously has asians, dont be scared of using the words brown, black, latina/os, because PoC means you are excluding the asians of the game, thank you
quickbloom cyno is a competitive team, dehya is an anomaly arlan was overnerfed bc he was the most broken unit in the beta and Carole was the best unit in her role for a long time until prometheus (this is standard hi3 powercreep) this narrative that they intentionally ruin poc makes no sense, it's their own bottom line they'd be jeopardizing
@skyronartz9593 okay dude no need to lecture them so passive aggressively lmao just inform them like a normal person, this is the reason why lots of people dont take others that are just trying to get representation seriously
My major point with the designs is that Hoyo's been doing this forever since HI3, they know how to nail designs at this point. Other games are getting more competitive these days in the gacha space, especially in terms of gameplay, features and so on, but in terms of art style, designs, etc for original works, they do still struggle overall at times. I think the longer WW is out, the better designs will get.
For sure! Kuro will be forced to innovate in order to keep the playerbase happy. It’s a win in my book. As long as we are reasonably critical, Kuro will listen. I’m happy by how far they have gotten in production. Dong is a very passionate game designer and WW is practically his baby.
I agree! Some of their designs are already fine so they just need to polish them and give them a bit more. Sometimes, it only takes a small detail in the facial expression, the EYES, the character model, the outfit, the palette, the lighting or the personality to retain people's attention. The characters look pretty cool in theory but the execution doesn't look quite right to me (maybe it's just me idk). Genshin suffers from the same problem sometimes (albedo's hair and eyes in the official art vs his character model, diluc's face, itto's noodle arms lmao).
Kuro makes better character models while Hoyo uses templates for their characters when designing them. All of the heights between the characters in Kuro Games have unique heights and sizes while Hoyo games kinda just attach clothing and eye/hair colors/styles to 3 different set models they have for mommy/normal/loli characters.
@@slow_unsteady God please stop reminding me of Itto's terrible arms. Boy is shredded to shit but his arms look like a freshly microwaved 1 dollar cup noodles lmao. I do actually also think that while specifically with Genshin characters, they do sometimes look kinda same-y. Like yeah, they're pretty looking, but some characters really do look the same if not have similar outlines. HSR doesn't quite have this problem with character looks, but GOD does every Loufu female need to be wearing the same dress lol? Like it's not absolutely horrendous, but C'mon, put them in some different clothes. My current problem with WW, is that a lot of the characters do look a lot similar for sure, idk why we have 4 males with white hair... But we do. The females are a littleeee better, but not by a ton. Again, I think it'll get better for sure though once more characters come into the cast.
@@lichmourne00 Sure, but we're not talking about the base models themselves. We're talking about the full design. With how many characters Hoyo cranks out constantly, it's honestly overall a smart business decision to do this, it saves them time and money... The money part is... Pointless realistically speaking given how much the company makes, they could afford to make things more unique, but it certainly does save them a lot of time I'm sure so they can focus more on other areas.
Personally I love the character designs of Wuthering. Maybe my only issue with them is the amount of belts all of them wear. Each character has like 20 or so belts like who in the world is selling so many belts! But I never felt the designs to be blending in with each other. . Calcharo and Aalto look quite different despite having the exact same colour pallet. The models to me feel way more detailed especially the hair for some reason. It feels so alive and bouncy which I love. Might have to disagree with you on that CyYu but again I respect your opinion ❤
Ive noticed many designers in Chinese media love to slap millions of belts on character to look more edgy, never got it tbh. Angelina skin from arknights is prime example of that as well, like, what the hell are those belts man?
Y'all gotta search up Tetsuya Nomura's designs and his obsession with Belts and how those designs went on for years and years 😂 Edit: Better yet, search Lulu from Final Fantasy 10, sharing this just for the laughs.
@@freykiva3887 but the thing is - he largely moved on from the belts nowadays from what i've seen, and hell - he was doing belts because of spite, not because it was cool.
bro the chat is so genshin coded , they just don't want to hear anything about this game on top of that CY YU will not be there because may be hoyo will not allow it .
@@galaxydust_ and even if there is a contract I am saying that just because it a competition for Hoyo "A company" , and don't tell me you trust a company that should be reducing their competition. That's how Company work
If this game comes out on playstation, i will play it , though it won't stop me from playing Genshin and HSR. They are different games, they should not be compared to each other.
"Genshin didnt invent open world" Yes, but it DID pioneer *high-budget, open-world anime gacha rpgs*. Its pretty obvious all these companies coming out with open-world anime gachas 3+ yrs after genshin's release and massive financial success didnt just coincidentally happen to have the same genre ideas. Not to say they wont take their own unique spin on whats basically a new genre (in the way that genshin was inspired by botw), but it'd be silly to act like genshin isnt the very obvious inspiration for these new games.
especially with kuro, thats known for taking very huge inspo from hoyo to begin with like, have nobody seen the beta pgr videos? the game looked and played like hi3
@@SorarikoMotonei do agree on that regard. I’m not going to act as if Kuro had an original idea. It’s okay to be inspired by other games. It has happened since the creation of video games. Which is a great thing. One would not exist without the other. Like how HI3 would not exist without DMC/Bayonetta, Genshin without BOTW, HSR without Persona. Taking ideas and making something new out of it!
I'm playing Megaton Musashi at the moment. A nice hidden gem. I don't get why people say [blank] is a [blank] killer either. People are going to play what they want to play.
I've heard that Kuro games made the UI similar to Genshin's so that ex Genshin players or people currently playing genshin will be comfortable navigating a similar UI.
I'm so happy that you're not voice acting in this game. (This company was trying to copy Jing Yuan so hard. They changed a male character's title to General & changed the character's VA to JY's CN VA.)
you can have darker colored game while having unique characters, nobody says otherwise, its just kuro sucks at making them. they all just blend into an unidentifiable soup of chinese origin, much like a lot of other chinese games are, colorful or not. case in point - drakengard/nier, ff7, MGS, reverse 1999, morimens etc. it CAN be done, kuro just doesnt understand how to do it without them all looking very samey
Im sorry but this is a horrendous take. Arknights designs are great, amazing even. Reverse1999 had pretty interesting designs, PTN and probably more darker style designs out there that look great. As it currently stands, wuwa designs are boring and not that interesting, colors wont help them.
@@kiuhh1118 if you compare Wuthering Waves CBT 1 designs with the current designs they're far from boring or lacking. CBT 1 was way worse dude. Also the characters fit the world well, watch the latest character models and tell me they don't fit a post apocalyptic world.
@@symphonixblades i mean no disrespect, but i've seen this point already and to that i will repeat what someone else said before - from "bad" to "meh" isnt that much of a change, especially for a game that has to bank on selling the characters.
Tbh i have no problem with the game at all, except for how the shiny echo system works. I prefer the gritty (is that the right word?) design of the character and world over genshins design, not that i dont like genshin character and world design ofc.
What do you think is wromg with shiny echos? Personally I like how it works rn. Get the shiny and then you can apply to all your other echos of the same one if you want. Stops me having to grimg shinies for stats that I want.
@@arkyflame1599 apparently they arent a random chance spawn rate thing but are guaranteed in specific places which kinda ruins the fun of shinies. Not 100% sure, but if that is the case, shiny echoes wont be as special. Regardless it doesnt matter too much since shiny echoes were more of a side thing for me that would make echo hunting a bit more fun.
@@noArms801 although shiny echoes i think should only spawn where the enemy type in question normally would spawn. as it imo would be weird to have an echo spawn when that enemy type normally would not be in that location.
@@MrBentalton777 i meant that the shiny echo will spawn in a specific location. For example the turtle shiny will always spawn on the same exact point on the map for everyone 100% guaranteed, rather than the shiny spawning anywhere the turtle enemies can spawn with a low chance of a random turtle being shiny. Same would go for the other shiny echoes as well
i agree w character design. maybe it's just my brain but bright colors are more appealing to me. i love genshin cause it's bright loud in your face type of way. bright saturated colors make me pay attention LMAO
people want a Genshin killer because they don't care about a good game they just hate Genshin and want to play the most popular game, but while it's Genshin, they are damned to be madge&sadge
nobody is saying that. the only thing that can kill genshin is genshin itself and wuwa fans know it. it's the opposite of what you're saying, people like wuwa because it's genshin but with actually good combat.
13:58 Sad it’s also happening in other fandom like Godzilla. Tourists and Minus One fans (HSR equivalent of Godzilla) can’t accept both kinds of Godzilla and will always shit on Monsterverse 24/7 (Genshin equivalent of Godzilla)
The people commenting here regarding the designs of both companies (and some other more) have very interesting takes. As of right now Kuro Games is one of the best bet for competition with Genshin Impact and etc, and if in character designs that some people are already conflicted about, we are probably in a pickle. I have to say, character design is probably the most attention driven in games. If the character looks uninteresting or boring to a player, he or she might not even bother trying these characters out even if it has the most mind blowing lore or combat. I am not sure how Kuro Games can improve their take on the art style (personally, as of right now I don't have any problems with it) but I would like to know what possible ways they could change it to some people out here.
Interesting question! I definitely think they should branch out their clothing designs on the characters and have better contrasting colors. I will use PGR as an example. Gen1 characters follow the formula of black,white,and some other color. The designs were very simple and aren’t unique. Now with Gen2, there’s more variety with how the characters look. Cohesive design elements without straying too far from the art direction.
@@yolkyegg Ahhh I see. My initial impression of Gen 2 characters is that they look "sick". I genuinely think that Kuro Games will probably receive feedback in regards to this and I am happy people have things to debate about in games that are essential to its success, and it provides more room for improvement as well to the developers. I get your statement though! Thank you for responding.
@@breeze9868 for sure! I appreciate these discussions because it also gives me an insight to those who think differently from me. Which also helps me provide better feedback to Kuro!
I think it’s because it’s still new. In my opinion, I didn’t like the beginning character designs in Genshin as much as I do like Navia or Neuvi for example. Remember- every game makes mistakes in the beginning, no matter the studio, so hopefully WW will get more variety later on
I have seen enough of wuthering waves for me to say that it deserve a try for a day at the very least for me i will play it for like a month before deciding if I'm going to stay with it or not
I'd say the WuWa - ZZZ comparisons are because of the combat since they're both fast paced with dodging/perfect dodging and switch in/out mechanics. Other reasons i can think of are the same reasons why some people unjustifiably throw crap at WuWa.
@@gizunoglunmig0801 both games already had multiple beta tests where the combat gameplay are showcased. I'd say that's enough ground for some comparison. But the friction is caused by other, mostly unjustified reasons, at least from what little i've seen. Though then again, i don't think i've ever actually seen WuWa and ZZZ being compared directly...
Wuthering Waves would get less hate if it started with its own identity. The game is still buggy though. Tells me enough that this was rushed because they needed for it to start making them money.
L take on the designs, its literally on purpose, genshin is a happy colorful world, wuthering waves is not, so saying the designs suck based on something that is literally an artistic choice is absolutely absurd and a very ignorant opinion.
No W take. I love WW's designs but he is right from an outside perspective Genshin's designs are way more pleasing, distinctive and recognizable. But that doesn't mean WW designs are bad at all and fit the environment really well and have way better body design than Genshin IMO.
@@ariyanseikh5124 to each their own, but opinions can be bad, and his is, so is yours unfortunately, go play PGR then come back, not a single genshin design is better than PGRs outside of itto and Xiao
@@optimusprime7243 Again your opinion is 100% right and unlike you I will respect it since liking designs is a subjective topic. I played PGR when it first released and tbh I don't remember a single character except Lucia and thats because none of them are memorable at all (I haven't seen any of the new ones). And thats not a bad thing ...if the gameplay's good, people will stick around.
@@ariyanseikh5124 well ofc a base game when it comes out isn't gonna be good, and neither was genshxt when it came out, go look up some new characters, but since you haven't played since release.. that basically tells me all I need to know lmao, you prefer a predatory company thats name won't be said
@@optimusprime7243Nah I saw some and I wont change my mind, PGR gameplay looks amazing but character designs are nowhere as good as Honkai Impact, Genshin or HSR. Now if you're using the term "predatory", you should be applying it to all gacha games whether it's Genshin or WW... all of them are p2w trash 🤣
Wuthering fans sh*ts on genshin and hsr, so toxic, I'm a miyoho fan but I'll try Wuthering, hope that the story is as good or better than hoyo games, we need competition
i've been looking most of those fight are actually started by hoyo stans saying the game is a copy and will fail , peop dont understand that one dont need to fail to the other be a sucess they are different games, i played the beta of wuwa and i play genshin daily , they dont share almost nothing in common, world exploring is the only thing similar still feel different on both games , combat is totally different , wuwa is more like a hack' n slash with combos and shit with a high difficulty roof , and genshin combat is more based on reactions and is way more casual so they are in fact different genre in the end.
@@diostone6975 pretty sure it all started at the same time tbh, go into literally any new anime gacha game discussion and youll see "genshin could never do X" x10000 It gets super annoying when you just want to talk abt that respective game, but ppl will never stop trying to one-up genshin.
uh uh, sandals, uh uh thigh highs, uh heels, uh lon hair on male characters. don't even get started with some of star rails designs with the 6 women that all look the same and the 4 guys with basically the same outfit.
If they add the guy with the mustache as a playable character, then for me, Kuro already has a leg up in design over Hoyo. Gallagher is about the only playable character that even has facial hair and its more of a stubble.
@@alicedodobirb2808 Oh yeah, damn! WuWa got the W there. It's funny how I'm used to playing men with facial hair in other Gacha games like Fire Emblem Heroes yet Hoyo seems almost allergic to them.
@@aeso3555 I'm almost certain scar will be playable later on, as Kuroda has history of such shenanigans ;) Gl with those characters tho! Not my style but I have to admit, they're pretty cool regardless
@@ariyanseikh5124 if you're talking about the yomiholic contract then it IS confirmed real idfk where yu got your info from but it's wrong and you're tryna cope.
@@ST4RC4SM Yeah jokes on you dude, then explain why did all major Genshin CCs like Dish, Tuonto and Zyox confirmed that they'd be playing WW on their twitter? If there was such a strict contract none of them would've played lol
@@ariyanseikh5124Because Hoyo got exposed so they probably stopped proposing the contract, and the Hoyo CC's are now free of playing WuWa Or They simply did not sign the contract because even they did realize how predatory It is
Why they compare it with ZZZ? Simple, because the combat gameplay is very similar(dodge, parry, swap characters) but WuWa does it way better + it's not limited because it's open world
True but ZZZ will be more casual while WW will require more space, skills and time... and both being primarily mobile games ZZZ sounds like it might get ahead since a lot of people wont have enough room for Hoyoverse's games and WW in my opinion
I think these designs are very detailed and looking at them for more than 5 seconds can show they are very distinct, but their aesthetics are all too close to one another imo and that just comes from the grounded style this game is trying to make. All of the 4 star swords women have very distinct designs but each come from a veey similar design space whereas in Genshin for instance Xingqiu comes from a very different design space from Bennett despite being in the same weapon type. Not to compare the designs, because I think individually, Genshin's designs are worse, but I think WuWa will need to create characters that don't just pull from one aesthetic.
Alot of people pre registered? Bro 30 million is WILD this game will be big especially with Devs that are willing to listen to the community and make the necessary changes unlike Hoyoverse
Kurogames are the biggest fans of hoyoverse. Like the quotte "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". First was Honkai impact 3rd with pgr, now Genshin with Wuwa, maybe in the future they're going to launch a 3d gacha rpg by turns. It's not a Bad thing, pgr has soul, i'm sure Wuwa it's going to be like that. Just play whatever You like the most or both. I'm going to try Wuwa and if I like it then i'm going to play and enjoy two great games.
Imo outside of like honeymoon period the game will ultimately fall to nikke level success at best. Rather than the mihoyo doomposting level that content creators are hyping it up as.
This i do agree on Obviously most players would migrate from gesnhin into wuwa but are they really gonna be able to handle the game since its cattered to certain more hardcore demographic
@@joshbrosh6626 "most" not really, a good chunk possibly, but it wouldnt be "most" players, not even half, lol. we gotta remember that people that participate in all the drama =/ all people that actually play the game, and that not all people are no-life'ing on social media and internet as a whole. lots of people are so casual they dont even look up guides or do abyss. which is why probably hoyo is searching for a way to help those people out in-game, rather than outside of it.
@@joshbrosh6626 Yeah people forget how majority of Genshin players are casual and depending on how hardcore WW goes that's gonna pretty much cut most of them out.
So many people just say "if you don't like genshin, just play something else", the thing is, we didn't have something else, genshin was the only one of it's kind and it isn't till now that we can actually play something else xd
You are baffled by people comparing WuWa to ZZZ while i saw people in reddit claiming that "WuWa is not competition to Genshin but to Star Rail, Star Rail will be affected more" people are saying that an open world action game is competition to a turn based rpg game, obviously there are all kind of dumb takes. After all, all kinds of people have access to internet so i don’t think there is a need to pay attention to people who claim WuWa is a Genshin killer or that WuWa will be a flop. They are just talking out of pure spite and a weird sense of loyalty to billion dollar companies, nothing else.
Go suck Tectone's dick... bro just accepts any rumour that these drama CCs cook up without valid proof and slops their shit up lol 🤣. Unless CCs who play Hoyoverse games do not play WWs at all upon release, then the contract cant be proved at all
@@symphonixblades perish the thought. It's just that genshin and sr are far too easy and casual so ppl gravitate towrds them as well as for their designs. One look at ww or the first tutorial boss will dissuade them
@@Prodigal450 that's a better explanation than what you said above I'll give you that. Also true that Genshin And WuWa audience may differ because WuWa has hardcore content with that said the open world of it isn't that hard until you reach like lvl 40, it's the Endgame modes that are hard
the thing with genshin is the engine thats just what happens when the game is older and was made in a time when not everyone had really good phones so they had to make a speical engine for it that has issues. if hoyoverse could they would and they have been trying and exprinmenting
Just because the open world movements are faster doesnt mean its better. I like the slow speed of genshin its really relaxing. Fast or slow are just preferences, isnt better or worse.
All these anime games look samey as hell bruv. Mindless flashy combat and AI-looking-ass asymetrical character designs doesn't do it for me. The only reason I dig Genshin is because it's got some damn good storytelling and world building.
Damn I guess no other open world and gacha game have good story and lore. Genshin and Hoyo is the only one in the entire world can write good story Get that sh-t outta here
I don’t get comparisons i never seen much of zzz it didn’t really explain much lore on whats it gonna be about as for WW i kinda understand correct me if im wrong we are born to find out identity and some claim our identity is actually something of a curse or evil to humanity like we are evil bur dont remember or destruction
What hoyo games excell at their character design is factions indicator, you will notice they belong to certain group and easily distinguishable on top of element identification, inazuma character have japanese clothing that people can quickly figure out, and then lyney linette have similarity in their design outside of other fontainian, same with hsr characters to lesser extent, even in ZZZ i remember there are a group of maids, but i don't see this from wuthering waves yet What makes genshin design top tier for me is most of their character design can tell their backstory, idle animation sometimes give a hint on their job or occupation, and some kf their combat movement even can give you a bit of information
Genshin characters design top tier Meanwhile look at their faces they all look the same and adults face look like children. At least adults in Wuthering Waves look like adults, which also applies to Honkaiverse, look for example at Gallagher he looks like an adult but if you look at Diluc he doesn't look like an adult
@@symphonixblades yeah i agree, the only distinguishable facial feature in genshin is their hair and pupils only, its still ot without problem, body types and itto noodle arm is one of them, but its still better than most games, i don't mind adult don't look like adult, its just artistic choice, i would prefer to end up with the youthful looks and accept it rather than somehow they decide adult to have jojo's face style
@@starstruck8862 random person are too broad, you can't use that as measurement, if its someone from tribe in the middle of the desert ofc they wouldn't have a clue, but someone from asian country might be able to distinguish chinese theme on those characters
yeah and it's sh!t and doesn't work half the time. plus you need a specific character to do it. kirara can't even be guaranteed because she's a 4*and not everyone has her. plus the the hell block essentials behind a CHARACTER when it should be implemented in the base game?!
adhd is opening the same video 4 times, watching the 2 ads at the beginning of each one, switch to a different video to have it on my history so i can check it again later and only after 6 ads i watch the video youre welcome btw cyyu
Yeah the chara designs are kinda eh. It def has to do with the rampant belts and hanging bits. A lot of the clothing is like- the same thickness and material seemingly. Barely much of the designs are unique from eachother
honestly even one of the unpopular gacha game already have far far better heart breaking story than the popular one rn, Korean game are really the best when it comes to writing but pretty scumy when it comes to monetization
Hoyoverse has told their sponsors to trash talk WuWa and get people to say their games are better. Legit people have stopped being sponsored because they have refused to do this
@@ziggyrules0489literally look at the video man. Better character designs and he's shitting on it. I don't blame him because hoyo has a ball grip on their people, but face the facfs
I am not realy a fan of any of the playable character designs for WuWa. But i will say the NPCs look good. My largest problem with Hoyo games is how bland backround people in look. I'm excited to see real design on my questgivers and shopkeepers.
Man you should see how the characters looked at first most of the women looked the same all black hair and big boobs and all of the men looked the same if you look at them then vs now you would be way more happy and like the characters now
@@battay5942, id rather have good character design actually. We dont have to choose between mediocre and outright bad. Good for kuro thay they can improve, but unfortunately it wasn't enough and it looks like launch character roster is unfortunately a huge miss.
@@kiuhh1118 the characters don't look bad there just isn't any bright blue colors like there are in most of these games people only don't like it because it uses darker colors like take the genshin world and image it all dark and gray and a lot of the characters wear some of the same colors people are going to say the same thing
@@battay5942 the problem isnt in not having bright colors - the designs themselves are boring, unmemorable and have the whiff of "i've already seen that somewhere". you know there are gacha games with muted designs that ARE good, yes? Reverse 1999, for example, morimens is slightly less known due to it being currently cn only, but its designs are pretty awesome too. arknights and ptn even have better designs, ffs, despite them being also very muted.
How can you work for Hoyoverse but make a WUWA video? Does it not hurt your VA side of your career? Or do the agencies not care? Your content is good so it’s not a big deal and it’s also just 1 gig but I’m curious.
@@SorarikoMotone im lost. You are saying this content has no relation to the VA stuff? i've just seen a lot of weird non compete stuff from games recently specifically hoyo as well as Marvels rivals.
@@franktownsend3483 i'm just saying that if the company in any way, shape, or form would try to interfere with his life and vtuber stuff, he wouldnt have worked with them in the first place. he already avoided burning his hand on nijisanji with that one. also - non-competes are illegal now, so even less worry to have.
I don't like the guy designs, it is so edgy for me... The dark post-apocalyptic setting puts me off as well... I'll just get Yinlin, Baizhi and Verina and perhaps play that as preparation for Azur Promilia...
@@gachaleaks8654 just because someone doesn't like the dark post apocalyptic theme doesn't mean that they are not manly, you are the kind of people that put off people from wanting to try the game
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Is Wu Wa good? Yes wuthering waves is good (I didn't say better).
Allow me to gave you some little news:
- you can make combos of different characters depending of the certain conditions
- you can pick a 5 star weapon and it's always... Guaranteed (all banners; 80 pity as hard pity; starter not counted.)
- you will get a starter free 5 star weapon if pre-registered
- free wishes both from pre-register, rewards in mail and maybe the daily log in like in PGR (Kuro's first game release, I guess.)
- You can parkour and double jump, You can use echo (pokemon?) and their system well, players have to find out for themselves.
Those are the things I can say is certified as for the 5 star standard character pick... well, that's to be confirmed in the release. Still players have options to choose weather to play WuWa as they please or not play it. It's a 16+ game and it does have some end game I heard, since I haven't tried CBT. As for the story... I dunno, I only heard they change like 90% of the story. Anyways Goodluck in your choices guys.
7DS Origins is fucked😂😂
Will never understand why both games cannot co exist without everyone hating on the other it’s just ridiculous and pure toxic
I think Kuro Games fans have always been chill, it’s just that the Genshin community has always been toxic. The minorities are way too damn loud.
Probably because certain content creators cash in on putting them against each other to create future drama or as they call it, content
It's cus one certain side dick riding hoyo like it's Saint company
Yeah it’s unfortunate. It only brings unnecessary hate for both games instead of having a healthy discussion of the two
Tbh it’s probably because Genshin haters have attached themselves to the wuthering waves community, and genshin whales are afraid of losing their thousands of $ of “investment” and having to reset
I literally had a Wuthering Waves ad during this video, that's crazy
Same
That's crazy, cause I just opened the video and there is a WuWa ad right now as I'm replying to this comment of yours.
It's the Jianxin showcase trailer
I had a yinlin ad, im pretty blessed today
Same lol
That's good, that means Kuro finally do the Marketing right.
PGR Marketing was kinda bad, which is why not many people knows and play it.
Comparing wultering wawes to zzz is like comparing a rock to a pop
Both are action games but beyond that they are nothing alike
yeah, i also feel its a bit disingenuous to compare them
True, in my opinion, comparing ZZZ & WuWa is like comparing Devil May Cry & Zelda Breath Of The Wild, I mean, two games with sweet action gameplay, but yeah, the real thing they have in common is the Gacha RPG tag and that's all o/
Ive honestly thought the weird "Genshin killer!" Or "Wuthering waves is horrible!" Comments are so incredibly stupid, you suddenly cant just have a discussion about Hsr, Genshin, or Wuthering waves without people feeling the need to bring someone else down because they prefer one over the other. I play Genshin and Hsr, I enjoy the characters, story, and combat of both, and when Wuthering Waves hopefully releases on Ps5 I hope ill enjoy that one too. The strange toxic mindset that you cant enjoy more then one of these games at a time is weird to say the least. There are things in Star rail I prefer over Genshin and vice versa, im sure when Wuthering waves releases ill enjoy things in that game more then the others as well. In the end i feel these strange wars are pointless (I do agree itll be good for genshin to have competition dont get me wrong) but when all the fans do is bash on someone else for which game they like more, all it does is create resentment between both communities, personally im looking forward to enjoying all three games, and i cant wait to see where their stories go!
i wish more people were like you 🥲
I think the unfortunate fact is that Genshin is SO popular that it kind of lives rent-free in people's heads. This already happened previously with TOF, where its "fans" were mostly just Genshin haters. That was also the reason why TOF players were rabidly holding onto the game despite its major flaws and copyright issues.
I see a similar thing happening with WuWa, but to a much tamer scale. Probably because Genshin is 4 years old at this point, and HSR already exists to be the game that Genshin haters can flock to.
@@NijiKonohana Oh definitely! I wasn’t into Genshin during the TOF drama, but I heard how bad it was. I think it’s crazy how even when Genshin does do something cool or tries to change for the better the vocal haters won’t even acknowledge it and still find a way to bring Genshin and its fans down. The most common term I’ve seen is “mintpicker,” you can literally get called a mintpicker for simply enjoying a specific factor about Genshin or saying you prefer the casual feel of it. One of my personal favorite parts about Genshin is the story and fleshed out lore I’m a sucker for detailed and well thought out stories. I do believe Genshin can sometimes execute the story poorly, but to me that doesn’t take away how fascinating and cool it is. One of the biggest things I’ve seen is people calling the story mid, then parading their opinion around like it’s the only correct one and any other opinion is wrong. Since most of the people clinging to WuWa and the ones that were clinging to TOF, are having/had a toxic positivity mindset towards them were most likely once Genshin fans it seems like they’re so bitter about their personal dissatisfaction and disappointment that they can’t handle the thought of others actually enjoying the game, It’s sad really.
Thing with WuWa designs is that, they ARE detailed, in fact they are more detailed than Hoyo ones : they have different body-types, different faces etc etc, but due to Kuro games love for depressive monochromic colours (they are big fans of Nier Automata designs) their characters can't infect your memory. It's like, you take Genshin character or HSR character and this character gonna get your attention, because it's whole appearance is made the way that causes your brain to pay attention. While WuWa designs colour-way are too simplistic and dim, due to what you can easily ignore them, since they can't catch your eye, they can't force you to keep your attention.
Beside that, it's really more of a tastes matter, some people like more gray-ish colours and worlds, others like more vibrant ones.
Wuwa's gotten hella vibrant and colorful since the last CBTs. Also, youre right and wrong about what makes the characters appealing. Yeah the vibrant colors play a big part but so does the actual design of the character
Pretty sure guys like Jiyan and Kakarot have caught many people's attentions. Cloud Strife, Sephiroth and Zack Fair from Final Fantasy 7 have very dark and muted colors and even then theyre among the most iconic characters. So like I said, vibrant colors ain't everything. The overall appearance and the importance of the characters in the stories play a big part too
The main thing for me personally is that theres so many characters with the same hair color, style, height, etc. ON TOP of similar color palettes. I have the same issue with PGR, it's difficult to differentiate a lot of the designs.
I wouldn’t say they are simplistic at all. If anything they are just as complicated as genshin. I mean have u seen the amount of belts each character wears 😭 there is this video series that dissects wuthering waves models and just wow. The details, the tiny details in all of them is so cool
@@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1 tbf they're iconic because in all those dark colors, they have something to separate them from others - ie Cloud's hair and sword, Sephiroph's.... everything, really, and Zack is because we all cried while playing CC. But overall kuro just suffers with character designs - like yeah, characters are good looking, but i've seen these designs in pso2, they all look like some random players you would meet in a raid there, alongside with some people who make huge booba and a$$ using accessories and people in bird costumes cosplaying solid snake for n-th time. only wuwa doesnt have the second type, and only the first, so while an eyecandy - they all just mash together into a unidentifiable soup, and this is an issue in pgr too, for the most part.
I think the design of WW's characters is too subtle and practical with a similar color palette, which makes them look underwhelming. Most Gacha gamers are used to seeing the characters with exact details and a stand-out color scheme for quite some time now.
Since they can't fix or add more detail to the launch characters, They've to change the approach in terms of character design after Yinlin's banner If they want to appeal to the majority of people, they need to improve on this topic.
About the character designs - I personally like how their characters fit within the world. Kuro did this in Punishing, too. When you put them all side by side, the color pallets seem “samey”, but in game, their aesthetics mesh together nicely with the world and each other. Like, you don’t feel like there’s these weird alien designs/characters made to stand out on purpose. They stand out in other ways and individually. It truly helps with immersion. The sheer amount of voiceover is just nice - it reminds me of Honkai 3rd, in that respect.
I always thought that Wuthering Waves' colour palettes was meant to kinda show character's living situations. If the basline is black, then it's either worn by the common folk or those in the military to show uniformity (Calcharo and that bearded dude I assume) but those who can afford more will have more colour, like Jiyan whose a general wearing green or Scar and his cohort having red. Even Yuanwu and Yangyang could fit into this idea, since they both wear blue (granted i know nothing of them so my point kinda falls there) Heck, for some characters it could be argued that white is also a baseline colour, like of Jianxin, who is a monk and mostly wears white and black with touches of green. I get that it can be repetitive, and it kind of meshes together, but I like to imagine that it does more to characterise everyone by having black and white be the colour baseline. Even if it isn't a baseline, black and white's colours could be significant in terms of symbolism. Those with mostly black have some form of experience with the harsher world. Those in white don't have that same *trauma* like Verina, and those wearing both could have a mixed view of the world, like Aalto, Baizhi, Encore, Danjin, or even that magistrate lady.
I will say though, I think that people tend to look at these characters more as a selling point (which isn't bad in any way) rather than pieces of a puzzle in a larger world, which is probably where opinions about colour use may come in. Like Arlechinno, for example, she's one of the few characters in Genshin who has a monochromatic colour palette, which could refer to the apparent rumour her being an anomaly of some sort. Just my thoughts.
You definitely explained it better than I did 😅
@@yolkyegg Nah, I saw your comments, and I think you explained your points rather well.
fair point, but honestly if that's the case, then they need to be more variative and brave with the shape. for example, face shape, body shape, height, scar, beauty mark etc. so copy paste face and body shape doesn't really work here if they want to use the black and white scheme.
@pon9035 That's a fair point. If not that, then they should also consider the effects that shape language has a bit more when designing characters, like Aatlo. When I see his silhouette, I immediately see a rectangle, which usually means trustworthy and reliable, which is aided by his shoulders which give off circles, which read as friednly and gentle, unless it's meant to be a subversion of expectations. The same could be said with Danjin, who has the same rectangle, but her shoulders are more triangular, which could read off as her being fast and aggressive, her pancho is even more sharp than Aatlo's from what I've seen. If not that, give us a harpy woman or other intense mutations to dial up the variety.
@@pon9035I don’t think you Genshin fan have the right to complain about face and model.
Go take a real good look at your actual in game model Mr. Diluc have a good design
I disagree about the characters. They do have an emphasis on darker and more muted colors, but that’s clearly an artistic choice which fits with the setting and story. If you’re not a fan of that, it’s fine. Others will like it, just as it was with Nier which Kuro games takes inspiration from. Even then, I don’t think there’s a big lack of color variety, especially in the female characters department despite the black and white base colors. There’s always a third or fourth color in the mix. I also disagree on the model and outfit details. Characters in wuwa have distinctly different eye shapes, eye make-up, and hair styles, and their outfits and ornaments have some nice details like Jiyan’s outfit with the dragon theme, yangyang’s hair tie and hair feathers, yinlin’s puppet strings. Just to name a few. Also, I’ll say this. At least the men have some damn muscles on them. No noodle arms, and actual abs and pectoral muscles. Also, if you see footage of the game, the characters have a lot of expression on their face.
the thing is tho, they have nier characters in pgr... and nier characters + BRS look more unique than the whole cast of pgr. when collab characters look more unique and interesting than the basic forms of your og characters - thats when it is an issue. their issue isnt the colors - the designs are.
@@SorarikoMotone nier and brs characters look better than the basic forms of game’s og characters? Lol ok buddy. That’s pretty much not the case, but I won’t argue.
@@indomitable2566 they are, especially if you look at the silhouette shapes
@@SorarikoMotone There's a little thing called personal preference, I think PGR character design looks unique and great.
@@indomitable2566 how much nsfw content is there of 2B compared to pgr ?
I would love to see him voice one of the gigachad Characters or NPCs
I dont want to comment about the design but without any context on the game, no one stands out for me. I'll probably like or dislike the characters based on how they are in game, but the make or break for me is the story, I like genshin's initial story bc it's simple, nothing too complicated at first. If the game threw me into a complicated story at the beginning while I'm still adjusting and learning the world I'll probably rush and skip it.
"desaturated"
"monochromatic"
"variety"
I think majority of these streamers and CCs are not good at criticizing or making an opinion regarding art direction. People generally prefer hoyo's designs becasue they use the tried and tested saturated, colorful, bright and maximalist designs. And color theory and psychology aubmits that people are generally attracted to the aforementioned. It's not because they objectively have better graphic artists and designers.
Furina and Neuvilette is mostly monochromatic using different values of blue. The same way Sanhua is mostly monochromatic with black and white tones with red and gold accents. Variety in character designs doesn't necessarily mean variety in color alone. Genshin's body models aren't varied as well. There's basically short chibi, teen, and adult.
For me personally, I prefer Kuro's art direction specially with PGR. They seem more practical and mature. More minimalist and tech wear-inspired. They remind me of Yoji Shinkawa's character designs and Nier.
It's ironic because Hoyo's art direction is now becoming so ubiquitous and dare I say generic exactly because all of the recently announced gachas are all going for that saturated and maximalist designs. Take a character from ZZZ and Project Mugen and they'll just blend with each other worlds just as well. Take a charavter from Azure Promelia and Genshin and they'll fit just fine. Same with HSR and ToF.
So far, the only Gachas I've played and seen with relatively unique art direction is Arknights, Endfield, Limbus, PGR, WW, PtN, and Reverse 1999.
All hoyo games, Higan, Project Mugen, ToF, Azure Promelia, etc. looks like they share so similar art direction.
13:10 that is not the general sentiment though. Literally no one is saying that save for some few creators and fans.
True, if we applied that “No over-saturated color = bad design” logic, 2B, A2 from Nier, Vergil and Dante from DMC, Kratos from GOW, All of the characters from Metal Gear Rising and Solid, characters from Persona , Final Fantasy characters, Doom slayer from Doom would be considered one of the worst characters designs ever made.
But the truth is it’s the opposite, they are one of the most well desinged and iconic characters ever in video games history. When it comes to good characters design, people have to base on color theories, the use of shape language, how the characters design tied into the stories or the world they are in. not some kind of designs that are only made for people with short attention span.
This can also be applied to other media as well like anime, movies and novel since fundamentally speaking, they all work under the same rules. Guts from Berserk, Miyamoto Musashi from Vagabond, Johan and Tenma from monster are one of the best most iconic manga/anime characters ever created.
And don’t even let me mention about the group of people who are obsessed with tactical and tactical military designs.
I also agree that Arknight, Reverse 1999, Limbus have one of the most beautiful characters design in gacha games. Their design are all well thought which fit perfectly to their characters, the world they are in and their personality. Their designs are all so unique and mature, not to mention the amount of variety in Arknight lol.
Speaking of Arknight, I remember someone from Genshin was shitting on Arknight characters designs over a year ago and arkinght community made a whole fashion show on the reply lol.
and you can put wuwa and pgr characters into pso2 and they will fit there because such designs of outfits or very similar ones already exist there and people already wear them, and they actually at least try to make them look interesting
I disagree with 4th paragraph. ZZZ designs are just bad period compared to any hoyoverse game, it has nothing do with their style getting repetitive, in fact, id say they perfected genshin formula and applied to hsr to make by far most appealing designs out there.
it's called preference... no need to write a dissertation about it
I agree
WW & Genshin can co exist together & be friends. I will leave it at that...
they can but the small toxic side of both fan base will fight
@@tyriqueadams4326 FR they may be small but they're loud as HELL
Sorry but thats not the case in my opinion. Both games are inherent competitors due to the fact that they share the exact same genre with few In between differences. The fact that UI is identical to genshin already speaks volumes about who the targeted audience for this game is, i believe there is only 2 scenarios for this game: it makes +- same amount of money as genshin(less likely), or it falls to obscurity and becomes second coming of tof... With perhaps better monthly revenue but not even 1/30 of genshin (more likely), thats how it works. Games that similar cannot coexist on the market in harmony because the customer has to make a choice.
I believe genshin works very well as parallel to world of warcraft - theres many competitors out there, but ultimately, which one will turn out to be ffxiv and which ones will become many wow killers that dont even exist anymore?
@@kiuhh1118competition is good. It pushes Kuro and Hoyo to do better. Especially we are getting more anime gacha games in the future with Azure Promilia ( did i spell it right?), Project Mugen, and Unending Dawn. More and more games will try to infiltrate the gacha space. This incentivizes these companies to innovate in order to garner more players to their game. Sure, it’s going to be hard or near impossible to reach the amount of following hoyo gets. I would even say Genshin paved the way for these games to even exist. But I personally think that having different variety of gacha games to try would be a win. Especially for players who don’t have access to triple AAA games or consoles.
Objectively speaking, WW and Genshin can exist together and have been proven by other games like PUBG/Fortnite, Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat, CounterStrike/Valorant, and the list goes on. These games have the same genre but their playerbase have played the counterparts interchangeably because one game offers something different from the other. Competition is what lead these games to what they are now. Which I’m hoping to be the same with Kuro and Hoyo.
In fact, they should co-exist. Competition breeds better quality updates and content for both games.
I will never understand the obsession for a "game killer". Sure we can put pressure on hoyo by talking like this but y'all do understand that if a game "dies" and eventually gets shut down, there is no return since it's server-side. Many players complain about Genshin because they love the game and want it to be better, but there are also many other people who just want to see it fail because they're salty that it's still one of the best with so many loyal fans. Both games can co-exist in a competitive environment without "killing" the other, which will lead to quality of life improvements for the both of them. It's more beneficial for us, really. We get two awesome games to play for free.
This. I don't love genshin as much as I used but that's just cuz i feel disheartened by how it seems to respond to player feedback which is why I'm excited for Wuthering. It's a chance for Genshin to see some more competition that'll encourage it to be better on top of Wuthering just looking interesting on its own merits
@@alexandermattis2940 Agreed
Whenever Genshin players complain, it takes ages to receive even a slight acknowledgement, and even then, they are perceived as ungrateful.
Genshin is truly lucky to have received such a strong and loyal fanbase throughout the years but, by now, they should know better. When you compare it to HSR, a one year old game from the same company, it's hard not to feel disheartened. It truly makes you wonder what they do all these surveys for.
I fear that the overwhelming amount of money Genshin makes in a year makes them less inclined to change things up. Yes, the story and world-building are fascinating and the characters are lovable, but patches are starting to feel more and more like a business exchange. I hope that they start learning from the HSR team lol
I can't blame the fans for wanting something more and I hope WW can live up to even a fraction of their expectations and gain it's own identity so that hoyo can feel the pressure to apply changes to their own formula.
@@slow_unsteady It's nice to know others feel similarly to how I do cuz although I stopped playing Genshin due to how dissatisfied I was, that doesn't mean I hate it, I just want it to be better and I'm hoping that competition gives it that push it needs cuz I still love the game want to come back to it
@@alexandermattis2940 I hope it does! I still find myself having fun doing nothing and just exploring despite having capped resin lmao. That's how you know a game is good.
However, it's annoying to know that the game could be so much better if hoyo truly put their mind to it. Idk anything about coding but I know that players have been giving feedback for years. It's just a frustrating sight to behold.
I really dont get the character design part. Maybe its just my own tastes but i feel like the characters are pretty varied and they look really good, eye candy type. Like I can pretty much tell what vibe they got just through their appearance. Also the ZZZ and Wuwa comparison is mostly because both are the most hyped unreleased gacha. Tbh my current opinion of ZZZ is just its another combat focused gacha which is kind of a tight competition since HI3, PGR, and Wuwa does combat really good so my incentive to play it is its just the stylized art style. I look forward to trying endfield and promilia more tbh
thats your opinion but majority thinks character design looks mid/way worse than hoyo which is true.
@@kiuhh1118 I didnt even compare the character designs but sure ill play your game. First thing first, I dont give a crap about your "majority cope" maybe try comparing in detail next time?Unfortunately, I have a flawed sense of beauty so prolly little people will share my views. Wuwa has very good designs that feel realistic yet remains in a 2d art style and is quite attractive. HSR gets really busy and weird sometimes but it still works as a high tier eye candy. HI3 older valkyries were crap but the newer ones are on HSR level (i forgor when it started to get better). Genshin puts too much effort on the anime part that they mostly create minor looking ahh characters despite them being adults. I also heavily dislike a lot of factors including diluc's baby face, itto's drawn abs, albedo expectations vs in game model etc. etc..
A lot of them just look very similar. Similar hairstyles, colors, heights, etc, on top of ALL having the exact same skintone. Seriously, 3 tall pale men with the same shade of white hair and middle-part bangs, two of them w long hair? Same goes for the 3 tall women with black hair and the exact same bangs. It makes them blend together. Genshins base models are less varied, and theyre certainly not bastions of skin diversity, but its easier to tell the characters apart bc of the larger variety of colors and styles + *a couple* skin variations thrown in there.
@@arandom5926 , no one cares about detail, what matters is if people like it or not. As you said it yourself, you have "flawed" beauty standard so it would be weird for you to argue otherwise. Wuthering waves always struggled with designs ever since first technical test, they look quite boring and frankly not interesting. I believe this artstyle could have worked better for a manga or an anime, where character design isnt the deciding factor behind your product success and appeal, however for a gacha game, i have no desire to pull anyone at all, i look at jiyan - he looks like a generic china wind boy(totally not done before trope), i look at yinlin - she just looks like a coomer bait with very little detail to her outfit that would make it more interesting. And standard characters could all pose as 4* besides maybe calcharo, but he doesn't feel that interesting to me either, his face looks weird and his model is too skinny for a character image they were going for.
@@kiuhh1118 thats your opinion , so far players who wanna play wuwa on facebook talk about how great the characters looks , + u keep yapping about the characters in genshin and how good they all look lmao , go to google search for kazuha and the male MC side by side and look at the face lmao same shit just different hair , oh and u didnt talk about genshin models same shit for everyone lmao
People need to understand that both games can co-exist and hating on the one does not make the other any better, sure you might not like the fact that Genshin has competition but competition is good because it means that the devs now feel pressure, or an at least have an incentive to work harder, Genshin's been at the top for so long, and when you're at the top with no real competition you tend to stop trying as hard to make a good game, that's when things become half-assed, or the players aren't happy etc. If you genuinely dislike the fact that Hoyoverse has competition or that Genshin *might* not be the number one game of it's genre, then that's a *you* problem, people that actively shit on Wuwa for gaining the attraction that it has, are literally being defensive over a bunch of pixels, if you don't like it, don't pay attention to it, I understand people have spent time, money and effort into Genshin but it really doesn't matter, because Genshin could literally decide to shut down tomorrow, and Mihoyo could cease to operate and then what? There's a *very* thin line between passion and obsession, and the people who obsess over these pixels need professional help.
I never understood why people feel the need to debate over whether X game is a better version of Y game or A game is plagiarizing B game, like as long as they do it well I'll be happy either way because I just want more fun games to play lol, the main reason I even played Genshin at all was because the idea of a game like botw that was live service had me really excited
Am i the only one who actually likes the WuWa characters way more than genshin? (Some exceptions like Wriothesley is my fave design in genshin and he is mostly black styled)
I think its actually just a preference
Yeah it's just a preferencee but it is a little true that WW designs are a tiny bit more samey especially seeing them all lined up.
I agree, them actually having facial expressions help a lot. And I love monochromatic color schemed.
It is preference, and when WuWa end up like ToF 1 month into the game, you'll know that WUWA preference are for the minority.
Don't blame "no marketing" this time. Because wuwa ccs are the noisiest people on the internet.
@@JojoDigitalArtist So is hoyos.... It's going to happen. Animating and designing a video game is a lot of work, sometimes it's easier and less stressful to make a base model and then change things for each character.
Some examples for hoyo, The knave (genshin) and boothil (star rail), Raiden (genshin), Archeron (star rail), seela (star rail).
On top of that it makes sense that their outfits would look similiar, since they are in an APOCOLYPTIC setting, they probably don't have many options on where to get their clothes from...
It is preference. I've never played genshin because i don't like how vibrant their designs are and i actually like WW designs a lot more
Tbh, the combat in Wuthering felt more like Honkai 3rd but smoother (and I love H3’s combat). I really enjoyed the beta and am excited for its release next week - I’m also excited for the English voiceover and to see what they’ve changed and added. Also, Scar is just flat out cool.
The zzz comparison is primarily due to them being near release.
People are also hyper focusing in on the endgame combat since thats where most of the vocal discontent about genshin. Which is more similar to zzz than genshin.
The feeling of blandness come because you didn't familiar with design philosophy yet, if we see it closely and breakdown each character you definitely will see how different they are.
I have the same opinion at the first time I try to watch Gundam, every main mecha has the same color scheme and using the same design cue. It only starting to feel different when I familiar with the design, and suddenly I can see how different every design philosophy for each series.
i totally agree with the identity stuff i mean when genshin came out everyone called a botw clone it was only after it was given time it became its own thing
I disagree. WW already has its own identity. There are already so many things that sets it apart from Genshin. Some of the things they have in the game is from PGR. The reason why people have been constantly comparing the two is because they’re the same genre and coincidentally working on similar things.
Thanks Cyu for promoting Wuwa!
That is cbt 1 gameplay
Cbt 1 and cbt 2 looks way different
You could have shown your own cbt 2 gameplay
look at videos of hoyoverse contract leak for zzz vs ww and this guy is a hoyo voice actor so you get it
@@marcoxoxo572 Then he shouldnt make videos on WUWA and give crap takes like he is
@@marcoxoxo572 You know that was proven fake right lmao
@@JojoDigitalArtist this comment aged well lol
@@JojoDigitalArtist proof?
I agree that none of the characters really stick out... the art direction is just extremely not for me...
I feel like they could have the characters be dark toned and still not have strange things like character's hair and primary clothes color matching...
But of course... it's all IMHO... I'm honestly happy for people who are happy with them. it's just not my cup of tea.
Thank you i can respect that you agree that character designs are SUBJECTIVE instead of outrightly saying its bad cos it doesn't suit you tastes
Will you still play this game?
@@Prodigal450 yeah, I'm still going to try it out.
i hope its good the character designs look so so good!!! i cant wait for its release :3
Wuwa designs are mature, varied and detailed which i ADORE
The only genshin chars i like in design are chars like arlecchino and neuvillete and furina where they have more details than others but they still dont compare to wuwa theyre just brighter dopamine colors
I think wuwa is beautiful and i think ill personally find wuwa to be more aesthetically pleasing than genshin based on all the scenery ive seen. I was blown away with wuwas graphics in some clips ive seen. Absolutely stunning.
Playing PGR, I have no doubt in my mind WuWa will be amazing to play. Gameplay, graphics, look amazing
Fuluoluo (spider lily lady) I LOVE HER DESIGN SM scar is super attractive Jiyan looks so cool yinlin... need i say more? HAHAHA but I fell in love with the rover's attention to detail. Before anything was even announced for cbt2, I saw leaks of the rover and INSTANTLY WANTED TO PLAY THEM. Theyre both so pretty. Much more impressive than the main character for genshin. And it seems like rover will actually be important, a character you can actually use. Im thrilled.
OH RIGHT AND EXPLORATION LOOKS WAYYY FUNNER TOO. Climbing on walls, limitless stamina(unless you sprint) parkour, grappling hook, glider.. all of it screams SPEED. I think id have fun just running on walls tbh. Its much better than how slow genshin is.. the limited stamina, the climbing is painful.. the only thing that makes exploration tolerable in genshin is scara since he just zooms everywhere without wasting stamina.
The endgame modes? Hello? Those look shook fun to play. I can totally picture myself coming online just to play that regardless of rewards (though ive heard the rewards are fair/decent/good) which is ALREADY a MAJOR step up from genshin with its lackluster rewards and challenges.
I think wuwa will be a AMAZING GAME. with a AMAZING START. And it will only GROW from here on out.
sprinting does not consume stamina only running up walls/climbing does as well as when you are sprinting during combat or dodging that also consumes stamina.
So excited for wuwaaa 😍
I get the character design part, if you put black and white in all of them and if their outfit all looks like a uniform, then yeah, it takes the uniquiness away, like i get it is a post apocalyptic world but was the pre apocalypse world as minimalistic as it is now that you don't even see a pair of ripped jeans somewhere there? I think this is why Scar, Jinyan and Yinlin are popular, they are kinda the only ones that actually stand out, also what's with the white hair obssesion lmao like half of the cast is white haired, im a fan of white hair characters but this is too much 😂
What Pre-apocalyptic? The world is basically several centuries minimum after the Lament and the Discords are still there. The last Rover at the earliest was 200 or so years ago (probably not that early)
Ripped jeans would not be on anyone's minds
Edit-> A real fan of White hair would never admit that there is too much white hair. Only 8 together. 4 man and 4 woman. Most of the woman have black hair and another colour. You only see that because there are less men.
Genshin devs do their Poc Characters dirty, either giving them shit kit or by making them overshadowed by other characters. (Examples are Dehya and Xinyan, they didn't need to do my girls dirty, and Cyno being powercrept by other electro dps despite being recently released)
the only one thats good is kaeya. hopefully they'll fix that trend with natlan, but i have 0 expectations for that lmao
Same with HSR and HI3rd, My boy Arlan looks so cool with his big sword only for him to be the shittest character in the game, and Carole is just super underwhelming.
if we wanna talk about darker skinned characters, then yes, gameplay wise they absolutely did, but my question is, thats not really a comparison when wuwa doesnt even have ANY, like who are you comparing how they handle it to? wuwa? because i dont see a single bit of melanin, not even cyno level which is a tan if anything, also youre using PoC wrong since PoC includes asians and hoyo obviously has asians, dont be scared of using the words brown, black, latina/os, because PoC means you are excluding the asians of the game, thank you
quickbloom cyno is a competitive team, dehya is an anomaly
arlan was overnerfed bc he was the most broken unit in the beta
and Carole was the best unit in her role for a long time until prometheus (this is standard hi3 powercreep)
this narrative that they intentionally ruin poc makes no sense, it's their own bottom line they'd be jeopardizing
@skyronartz9593 okay dude no need to lecture them so passive aggressively lmao just inform them like a normal person, this is the reason why lots of people dont take others that are just trying to get representation seriously
My major point with the designs is that Hoyo's been doing this forever since HI3, they know how to nail designs at this point. Other games are getting more competitive these days in the gacha space, especially in terms of gameplay, features and so on, but in terms of art style, designs, etc for original works, they do still struggle overall at times. I think the longer WW is out, the better designs will get.
For sure! Kuro will be forced to innovate in order to keep the playerbase happy. It’s a win in my book. As long as we are reasonably critical, Kuro will listen. I’m happy by how far they have gotten in production. Dong is a very passionate game designer and WW is practically his baby.
I agree! Some of their designs are already fine so they just need to polish them and give them a bit more. Sometimes, it only takes a small detail in the facial expression, the EYES, the character model, the outfit, the palette, the lighting or the personality to retain people's attention. The characters look pretty cool in theory but the execution doesn't look quite right to me (maybe it's just me idk). Genshin suffers from the same problem sometimes (albedo's hair and eyes in the official art vs his character model, diluc's face, itto's noodle arms lmao).
Kuro makes better character models while Hoyo uses templates for their characters when designing them. All of the heights between the characters in Kuro Games have unique heights and sizes while Hoyo games kinda just attach clothing and eye/hair colors/styles to 3 different set models they have for mommy/normal/loli characters.
@@slow_unsteady God please stop reminding me of Itto's terrible arms. Boy is shredded to shit but his arms look like a freshly microwaved 1 dollar cup noodles lmao.
I do actually also think that while specifically with Genshin characters, they do sometimes look kinda same-y. Like yeah, they're pretty looking, but some characters really do look the same if not have similar outlines. HSR doesn't quite have this problem with character looks, but GOD does every Loufu female need to be wearing the same dress lol? Like it's not absolutely horrendous, but C'mon, put them in some different clothes.
My current problem with WW, is that a lot of the characters do look a lot similar for sure, idk why we have 4 males with white hair... But we do. The females are a littleeee better, but not by a ton. Again, I think it'll get better for sure though once more characters come into the cast.
@@lichmourne00 Sure, but we're not talking about the base models themselves. We're talking about the full design. With how many characters Hoyo cranks out constantly, it's honestly overall a smart business decision to do this, it saves them time and money... The money part is... Pointless realistically speaking given how much the company makes, they could afford to make things more unique, but it certainly does save them a lot of time I'm sure so they can focus more on other areas.
Personally I love the character designs of Wuthering. Maybe my only issue with them is the amount of belts all of them wear. Each character has like 20 or so belts like who in the world is selling so many belts! But I never felt the designs to be blending in with each other. . Calcharo and Aalto look quite different despite having the exact same colour pallet. The models to me feel way more detailed especially the hair for some reason. It feels so alive and bouncy which I love. Might have to disagree with you on that CyYu but again I respect your opinion ❤
lmao they belt thing is definitely an issue
Ive noticed many designers in Chinese media love to slap millions of belts on character to look more edgy, never got it tbh. Angelina skin from arknights is prime example of that as well, like, what the hell are those belts man?
@@kiuhh1118 they try too hard to emulate what was popular in japan, despite that time already passing a loooong time ago
Y'all gotta search up Tetsuya Nomura's designs and his obsession with Belts and how those designs went on for years and years 😂
Edit: Better yet, search Lulu from Final Fantasy 10, sharing this just for the laughs.
@@freykiva3887 but the thing is - he largely moved on from the belts nowadays from what i've seen, and hell - he was doing belts because of spite, not because it was cool.
Cyu: all the guys look alike. Idk what it is. Me: *stares at the 4 white haired men*
bro the chat is so genshin coded , they just don't want to hear anything about this game
on top of that CY YU will not be there because may be hoyo will not allow it .
Hoyo doesn't decide what Cyyu does
@@galaxydust_ I guarantee you he is not going to be there
@@vsCelestia-nq5cr oh let me guess, because of some fake contract?
@@galaxydust_ the f are you talking about , what contract 🙄
@@galaxydust_ and even if there is a contract I am saying that just because it a competition for Hoyo "A company" , and don't tell me you trust a company that should be reducing their competition.
That's how Company work
If this game comes out on playstation, i will play it , though it won't stop me from playing Genshin and HSR. They are different games, they should not be compared to each other.
I'm looking foward for you getting hired by devs, can't wait to traverse to this game and it's now released
"Genshin didnt invent open world"
Yes, but it DID pioneer *high-budget, open-world anime gacha rpgs*.
Its pretty obvious all these companies coming out with open-world anime gachas 3+ yrs after genshin's release and massive financial success didnt just coincidentally happen to have the same genre ideas.
Not to say they wont take their own unique spin on whats basically a new genre (in the way that genshin was inspired by botw), but it'd be silly to act like genshin isnt the very obvious inspiration for these new games.
especially with kuro, thats known for taking very huge inspo from hoyo to begin with
like, have nobody seen the beta pgr videos? the game looked and played like hi3
@@SorarikoMotonei do agree on that regard. I’m not going to act as if Kuro had an original idea.
It’s okay to be inspired by other games. It has happened since the creation of video games. Which is a great thing. One would not exist without the other.
Like how HI3 would not exist without DMC/Bayonetta, Genshin without BOTW, HSR without Persona.
Taking ideas and making something new out of it!
I'm playing Megaton Musashi at the moment. A nice hidden gem. I don't get why people say [blank] is a [blank] killer either. People are going to play what they want to play.
I've heard that Kuro games made the UI similar to Genshin's so that ex Genshin players or people currently playing genshin will be comfortable navigating a similar UI.
it's not confirmed at all. it's just someone's opinion. it's just UI.
I'm so happy that you're not voice acting in this game. (This company was trying to copy Jing Yuan so hard. They changed a male character's title to General & changed the character's VA to JY's CN VA.)
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no flashbang colors = bad design, your eyes had blinded with hoyo style, let kuro have their own style
you can have darker colored game while having unique characters, nobody says otherwise, its just kuro sucks at making them. they all just blend into an unidentifiable soup of chinese origin, much like a lot of other chinese games are, colorful or not.
case in point - drakengard/nier, ff7, MGS, reverse 1999, morimens etc. it CAN be done, kuro just doesnt understand how to do it without them all looking very samey
Im sorry but this is a horrendous take. Arknights designs are great, amazing even. Reverse1999 had pretty interesting designs, PTN and probably more darker style designs out there that look great. As it currently stands, wuwa designs are boring and not that interesting, colors wont help them.
@@kiuhh1118 if you compare Wuthering Waves CBT 1 designs with the current designs they're far from boring or lacking. CBT 1 was way worse dude. Also the characters fit the world well, watch the latest character models and tell me they don't fit a post apocalyptic world.
@@symphonixblades i mean no disrespect, but i've seen this point already and to that i will repeat what someone else said before - from "bad" to "meh" isnt that much of a change, especially for a game that has to bank on selling the characters.
@@kiuhh1118 all of those games pretty much have over the top design with darker style, which Wuwa does not do yet.
Tbh i have no problem with the game at all, except for how the shiny echo system works. I prefer the gritty (is that the right word?) design of the character and world over genshins design, not that i dont like genshin character and world design ofc.
What do you think is wromg with shiny echos? Personally I like how it works rn. Get the shiny and then you can apply to all your other echos of the same one if you want. Stops me having to grimg shinies for stats that I want.
@@arkyflame1599 apparently they arent a random chance spawn rate thing but are guaranteed in specific places which kinda ruins the fun of shinies. Not 100% sure, but if that is the case, shiny echoes wont be as special. Regardless it doesnt matter too much since shiny echoes were more of a side thing for me that would make echo hunting a bit more fun.
@@noArms801 although shiny echoes i think should only spawn where the enemy type in question normally would spawn. as it imo would be weird to have an echo spawn when that enemy type normally would not be in that location.
@@MrBentalton777 i meant that the shiny echo will spawn in a specific location. For example the turtle shiny will always spawn on the same exact point on the map for everyone 100% guaranteed, rather than the shiny spawning anywhere the turtle enemies can spawn with a low chance of a random turtle being shiny. Same would go for the other shiny echoes as well
@@noArms801 i know im saying i wish it was random but between the points in which that enemy normally would spawn
i agree w character design. maybe it's just my brain but bright colors are more appealing to me. i love genshin cause it's bright loud in your face type of way. bright saturated colors make me pay attention LMAO
people want a Genshin killer because they don't care about a good game they just hate Genshin and want to play the most popular game, but while it's Genshin, they are damned to be madge&sadge
People just hate how genshin treat its fan base
I think its the opposite they want a game that due to competition forces mihoyo to improve genshin
nobody is saying that. the only thing that can kill genshin is genshin itself and wuwa fans know it. it's the opposite of what you're saying, people like wuwa because it's genshin but with actually good combat.
13:58 Sad it’s also happening in other fandom like Godzilla. Tourists and Minus One fans (HSR equivalent of Godzilla) can’t accept both kinds of Godzilla and will always shit on Monsterverse 24/7 (Genshin equivalent of Godzilla)
The people commenting here regarding the designs of both companies (and some other more) have very interesting takes. As of right now Kuro Games is one of the best bet for competition with Genshin Impact and etc, and if in character designs that some people are already conflicted about, we are probably in a pickle. I have to say, character design is probably the most attention driven in games. If the character looks uninteresting or boring to a player, he or she might not even bother trying these characters out even if it has the most mind blowing lore or combat. I am not sure how Kuro Games can improve their take on the art style (personally, as of right now I don't have any problems with it) but I would like to know what possible ways they could change it to some people out here.
Interesting question! I definitely think they should branch out their clothing designs on the characters and have better contrasting colors. I will use PGR as an example. Gen1 characters follow the formula of black,white,and some other color. The designs were very simple and aren’t unique. Now with Gen2, there’s more variety with how the characters look. Cohesive design elements without straying too far from the art direction.
@@yolkyegg Ahhh I see. My initial impression of Gen 2 characters is that they look "sick". I genuinely think that Kuro Games will probably receive feedback in regards to this and I am happy people have things to debate about in games that are essential to its success, and it provides more room for improvement as well to the developers. I get your statement though! Thank you for responding.
@@breeze9868 for sure! I appreciate these discussions because it also gives me an insight to those who think differently from me. Which also helps me provide better feedback to Kuro!
It's mainly the problem with gacha community, they fed with much cute bright design.
I think it’s because it’s still new. In my opinion, I didn’t like the beginning character designs in Genshin as much as I do like Navia or Neuvi for example.
Remember- every game makes mistakes in the beginning, no matter the studio, so hopefully WW will get more variety later on
I have seen enough of wuthering waves for me to say that it deserve a try for a day at the very least for me i will play it for like a month before deciding if I'm going to stay with it or not
I'd say the WuWa - ZZZ comparisons are because of the combat since they're both fast paced with dodging/perfect dodging and switch in/out mechanics. Other reasons i can think of are the same reasons why some people unjustifiably throw crap at WuWa.
Then surely they should be comparing it to games that already do all of that and are already out? its just 2 fandoms colliding for no reason
@@gizunoglunmig0801 both games already had multiple beta tests where the combat gameplay are showcased. I'd say that's enough ground for some comparison. But the friction is caused by other, mostly unjustified reasons, at least from what little i've seen. Though then again, i don't think i've ever actually seen WuWa and ZZZ being compared directly...
@@AAAAncaholy shit of there are
Wuthering Waves would get less hate if it started with its own identity. The game is still buggy though. Tells me enough that this was rushed because they needed for it to start making them money.
L take on the designs, its literally on purpose, genshin is a happy colorful world, wuthering waves is not, so saying the designs suck based on something that is literally an artistic choice is absolutely absurd and a very ignorant opinion.
No W take. I love WW's designs but he is right from an outside perspective Genshin's designs are way more pleasing, distinctive and recognizable. But that doesn't mean WW designs are bad at all and fit the environment really well and have way better body design than Genshin IMO.
@@ariyanseikh5124 to each their own, but opinions can be bad, and his is, so is yours unfortunately, go play PGR then come back, not a single genshin design is better than PGRs outside of itto and Xiao
@@optimusprime7243 Again your opinion is 100% right and unlike you I will respect it since liking designs is a subjective topic. I played PGR when it first released and tbh I don't remember a single character except Lucia and thats because none of them are memorable at all (I haven't seen any of the new ones). And thats not a bad thing ...if the gameplay's good, people will stick around.
@@ariyanseikh5124 well ofc a base game when it comes out isn't gonna be good, and neither was genshxt when it came out, go look up some new characters, but since you haven't played since release.. that basically tells me all I need to know lmao, you prefer a predatory company thats name won't be said
@@optimusprime7243Nah I saw some and I wont change my mind, PGR gameplay looks amazing but character designs are nowhere as good as Honkai Impact, Genshin or HSR. Now if you're using the term "predatory", you should be applying it to all gacha games whether it's Genshin or WW... all of them are p2w trash 🤣
Wuthering fans sh*ts on genshin and hsr, so toxic, I'm a miyoho fan but I'll try Wuthering, hope that the story is as good or better than hoyo games, we need competition
We wouldn't if they don't shit on us first 😞
More like WuWa fans are responding to toxic hoyo fans. I usually see Hoyo fans starting the fire.
i've been looking most of those fight are actually started by hoyo stans saying the game is a copy and will fail , peop dont understand that one dont need to fail to the other be a sucess they are different games, i played the beta of wuwa and i play genshin daily , they dont share almost nothing in common, world exploring is the only thing similar still feel different on both games , combat is totally different , wuwa is more like a hack' n slash with combos and shit with a high difficulty roof , and genshin combat is more based on reactions and is way more casual so they are in fact different genre in the end.
Exactly. @@hijodelsoldeoriente
@@diostone6975 pretty sure it all started at the same time tbh, go into literally any new anime gacha game discussion and youll see "genshin could never do X" x10000
It gets super annoying when you just want to talk abt that respective game, but ppl will never stop trying to one-up genshin.
The ladies have the colors that the men need and the men have the darker colors that the women need
Lil fun fact: wuthering waves is releasing on my b-day😋
tell us the "Variation" you mean in genshin impact characters terms
uh uh, sandals, uh uh thigh highs, uh heels, uh lon hair on male characters. don't even get started with some of star rails designs with the 6 women that all look the same and the 4 guys with basically the same outfit.
If they add the guy with the mustache as a playable character, then for me, Kuro already has a leg up in design over Hoyo. Gallagher is about the only playable character that even has facial hair and its more of a stubble.
They already have a four star with facial hair in wuwa, its the blue guy with the fedora
@@alicedodobirb2808 Oh yeah, damn! WuWa got the W there. It's funny how I'm used to playing men with facial hair in other Gacha games like Fire Emblem Heroes yet Hoyo seems almost allergic to them.
@@aeso3555 I hope you get him early on if you want him/will play!
Personally I'm going for sanhua because I love her kit(and ice in general)
@@alicedodobirb2808 I'm really into Danjin, Jiyan and , if playable, Scar.
@@aeso3555 I'm almost certain scar will be playable later on, as Kuroda has history of such shenanigans ;)
Gl with those characters tho! Not my style but I have to admit, they're pretty cool regardless
It's alright chat, he signed the contract so he has to say this Hoyo's competitor. Don't take his opinion seriously or any Hoyo VAs.
Given previous contracts that Cyyu has talked about that he has been offered, I don't think he did sign THAT contract
The contract was confirmed fake by a leaker "supposedly" to get CCs talking. There's 0 proof that the contract is real or fake.
@@ariyanseikh5124 if you're talking about the yomiholic contract then it IS confirmed real idfk where yu got your info from but it's wrong and you're tryna cope.
@@ST4RC4SM Yeah jokes on you dude, then explain why did all major Genshin CCs like Dish, Tuonto and Zyox confirmed that they'd be playing WW on their twitter? If there was such a strict contract none of them would've played lol
@@ariyanseikh5124Because Hoyo got exposed so they probably stopped proposing the contract, and the Hoyo CC's are now free of playing WuWa
Or
They simply did not sign the contract because even they did realize how predatory It is
Why they compare it with ZZZ? Simple, because the combat gameplay is very similar(dodge, parry, swap characters) but WuWa does it way better + it's not limited because it's open world
True but ZZZ will be more casual while WW will require more space, skills and time... and both being primarily mobile games ZZZ sounds like it might get ahead since a lot of people wont have enough room for Hoyoverse's games and WW in my opinion
Kuro love Gothic classic black and grey color and the game is post apocalyptic game
I'm a simple woman. The game is open-world? Oo hell yea! Time to break my laptop/phone. Even more fun when I recognise the devs/company
I love Kuro and Hoyo. Why is there such hate? 😢
I think these designs are very detailed and looking at them for more than 5 seconds can show they are very distinct, but their aesthetics are all too close to one another imo and that just comes from the grounded style this game is trying to make. All of the 4 star swords women have very distinct designs but each come from a veey similar design space whereas in Genshin for instance Xingqiu comes from a very different design space from Bennett despite being in the same weapon type. Not to compare the designs, because I think individually, Genshin's designs are worse, but I think WuWa will need to create characters that don't just pull from one aesthetic.
Alot of people pre registered? Bro 30 million is WILD this game will be big especially with Devs that are willing to listen to the community and make the necessary changes unlike Hoyoverse
Kurogames are the biggest fans of hoyoverse. Like the quotte "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". First was Honkai impact 3rd with pgr, now Genshin with Wuwa, maybe in the future they're going to launch a 3d gacha rpg by turns. It's not a Bad thing, pgr has soul, i'm sure Wuwa it's going to be like that. Just play whatever You like the most or both. I'm going to try Wuwa and if I like it then i'm going to play and enjoy two great games.
I wouldnt be suprised if kuro's next game is turn based combat 😅
A lot of genshin character also just blends. Same face syndrome is more of a problem in hsr and genshin.
It honestly feels more like ToF. Or more like a refined/polished ToF.
If not for the fact the game was getting overhauled in 4.0, i'd agree
Imo outside of like honeymoon period the game will ultimately fall to nikke level success at best. Rather than the mihoyo doomposting level that content creators are hyping it up as.
This i do agree on
Obviously most players would migrate from gesnhin into wuwa but are they really gonna be able to handle the game since its cattered to certain more hardcore demographic
@@joshbrosh6626 "most" not really, a good chunk possibly, but it wouldnt be "most" players, not even half, lol.
we gotta remember that people that participate in all the drama =/ all people that actually play the game, and that not all people are no-life'ing on social media and internet as a whole. lots of people are so casual they dont even look up guides or do abyss. which is why probably hoyo is searching for a way to help those people out in-game, rather than outside of it.
@@joshbrosh6626 "Most" is hilariously delusional.
@@joshbrosh6626 Yeah people forget how majority of Genshin players are casual and depending on how hardcore WW goes that's gonna pretty much cut most of them out.
Nikke level? I disagree, unless they make huge improvements to designs they will probably be in 10mil per month zone at best.
I wish you can play one of the characters or the future characters in WW
So it has begun 🤔🤔
I personally don't care much for the WW designs either
So many people just say "if you don't like genshin, just play something else", the thing is, we didn't have something else, genshin was the only one of it's kind and it isn't till now that we can actually play something else xd
You are baffled by people comparing WuWa to ZZZ while i saw people in reddit claiming that "WuWa is not competition to Genshin but to Star Rail, Star Rail will be affected more" people are saying that an open world action game is competition to a turn based rpg game, obviously there are all kind of dumb takes. After all, all kinds of people have access to internet so i don’t think there is a need to pay attention to people who claim WuWa is a Genshin killer or that WuWa will be a flop. They are just talking out of pure spite and a weird sense of loyalty to billion dollar companies, nothing else.
Yup tectone was right I guess... Damn...I didn't want to believe the bald guy but this video proved his rumors...
CyYu said he's going to play it and he likes it so far though?
Go suck Tectone's dick... bro just accepts any rumour that these drama CCs cook up without valid proof and slops their shit up lol 🤣. Unless CCs who play Hoyoverse games do not play WWs at all upon release, then the contract cant be proved at all
Always nice to see some tall males. Will see if I give WW a try or not…I am a Genshin girl and I play SR. Not really looking for another gotcha.
Stick to genshin. Female casuals can't play this game it's too difficult
@@Prodigal450are you saying that girls can't be hardcore players?!
@@symphonixblades perish the thought. It's just that genshin and sr are far too easy and casual so ppl gravitate towrds them as well as for their designs. One look at ww or the first tutorial boss will dissuade them
@@Prodigal450 that's a better explanation than what you said above I'll give you that. Also true that Genshin And WuWa audience may differ because WuWa has hardcore content with that said the open world of it isn't that hard until you reach like lvl 40, it's the Endgame modes that are hard
@@Prodigal450 "Female casuals" incel detected
5:23 if I'm not wrong this is cbt 1 footage... Cbt 2 looks way better than this
Kinda feel like people are comparing because ZZZ and WuWa have very similar fighting gameplay
look at all that hate
Im waiting you to stream the whene it comes out ❤
right like I keep seeing people say genshin is getting scared into making better animation because of wuthering waves lol
As if they havent been visibly and consistently improving their animation quality since the beginning of the game LOL
the thing with genshin is the engine thats just what happens when the game is older and was made in a time when not everyone had really good phones so they had to make a speical engine for it that has issues. if hoyoverse could they would and they have been trying and exprinmenting
Well, ladies and gentlemen, tectone warned us that this was going to happen
Ya~ I've seen this too even before tec haven't said it. At least i can see who to avoid following 🤣
Just because the open world movements are faster doesnt mean its better. I like the slow speed of genshin its really relaxing. Fast or slow are just preferences, isnt better or worse.
The way cy only speaks facts
All these anime games look samey as hell bruv. Mindless flashy combat and AI-looking-ass asymetrical character designs doesn't do it for me. The only reason I dig Genshin is because it's got some damn good storytelling and world building.
Damn I guess no other open world and gacha game have good story and lore.
Genshin and Hoyo is the only one in the entire world can write good story
Get that sh-t outta here
good storytelling?
bruh im ar60 since 2years but storytelling is space bar skip skip skip skip how ever
i cant deny genshin LORE is godtier
I don’t get comparisons i never seen much of zzz it didn’t really explain much lore on whats it gonna be about as for WW i kinda understand correct me if im wrong we are born to find out identity and some claim our identity is actually something of a curse or evil to humanity like we are evil bur dont remember or destruction
What hoyo games excell at their character design is factions indicator, you will notice they belong to certain group and easily distinguishable on top of element identification, inazuma character have japanese clothing that people can quickly figure out, and then lyney linette have similarity in their design outside of other fontainian, same with hsr characters to lesser extent, even in ZZZ i remember there are a group of maids, but i don't see this from wuthering waves yet
What makes genshin design top tier for me is most of their character design can tell their backstory, idle animation sometimes give a hint on their job or occupation, and some kf their combat movement even can give you a bit of information
You want to see maids in a post apocalyptic setting?
Genshin characters design top tier
Meanwhile look at their faces they all look the same and adults face look like children.
At least adults in Wuthering Waves look like adults, which also applies to Honkaiverse, look for example at Gallagher he looks like an adult but if you look at Diluc he doesn't look like an adult
Really? If I was to show some random person Ninnguang, Ganyu, Keqing and Yelan, what would indicate that they are all part of the same group?
@@symphonixblades yeah i agree, the only distinguishable facial feature in genshin is their hair and pupils only, its still ot without problem, body types and itto noodle arm is one of them, but its still better than most games, i don't mind adult don't look like adult, its just artistic choice, i would prefer to end up with the youthful looks and accept it rather than somehow they decide adult to have jojo's face style
@@starstruck8862 random person are too broad, you can't use that as measurement, if its someone from tribe in the middle of the desert ofc they wouldn't have a clue, but someone from asian country might be able to distinguish chinese theme on those characters
Kirara can walk up walls. In box neko form too ahehehehe
yeah and it's sh!t and doesn't work half the time. plus you need a specific character to do it. kirara can't even be guaranteed because she's a 4*and not everyone has her. plus the the hell block essentials behind a CHARACTER when it should be implemented in the base game?!
adhd is opening the same video 4 times, watching the 2 ads at the beginning of each one, switch to a different video to have it on my history so i can check it again later and only after 6 ads i watch the video
youre welcome btw cyyu
Yeah the chara designs are kinda eh. It def has to do with the rampant belts and hanging bits. A lot of the clothing is like- the same thickness and material seemingly. Barely much of the designs are unique from eachother
Let be honest here, there no beating Hoyo in heart breaking when Shaoji still cooking
I advise you to check out Library of Ruina and Limbus Company.
correction :"There's no beating Honkai when Shaoji is still cooking" because Genshin story is easy to beat
honestly even one of the unpopular gacha game already have far far better heart breaking story than the popular one rn, Korean game are really the best when it comes to writing but pretty scumy when it comes to monetization
@@symphonixblades yeah, only people already complain that hsr story starts to contain too much yap... then again, not like hi3 wasnt the same
if you think that you should probbaly check what kuro cooked up in pgr its far darker than anything shaoji has ever done.
Hoyoverse has told their sponsors to trash talk WuWa and get people to say their games are better. Legit people have stopped being sponsored because they have refused to do this
Proof?
@@ziggyrules0489literally look at the video man. Better character designs and he's shitting on it. I don't blame him because hoyo has a ball grip on their people, but face the facfs
@@avalokiteshvara113yeah I would do the same if I'm getting paid 5-6 digits
Love cyber wolf look 🐺 👾 At least Genshin has adult woman. Games need grown women and old women
I am not realy a fan of any of the playable character designs for WuWa. But i will say the NPCs look good. My largest problem with Hoyo games is how bland backround people in look. I'm excited to see real design on my questgivers and shopkeepers.
Man you should see how the characters looked at first most of the women looked the same all black hair and big boobs and all of the men looked the same if you look at them then vs now you would be way more happy and like the characters now
Improvement from terrible to meh still doesn't leave you in a good spot tho
@@mikonyx7712 it's way better than what it used to be would you rather have what it used to be or what it is now?
@@battay5942, id rather have good character design actually. We dont have to choose between mediocre and outright bad. Good for kuro thay they can improve, but unfortunately it wasn't enough and it looks like launch character roster is unfortunately a huge miss.
@@kiuhh1118 the characters don't look bad there just isn't any bright blue colors like there are in most of these games people only don't like it because it uses darker colors like take the genshin world and image it all dark and gray and a lot of the characters wear some of the same colors people are going to say the same thing
@@battay5942 the problem isnt in not having bright colors - the designs themselves are boring, unmemorable and have the whiff of "i've already seen that somewhere".
you know there are gacha games with muted designs that ARE good, yes? Reverse 1999, for example, morimens is slightly less known due to it being currently cn only, but its designs are pretty awesome too. arknights and ptn even have better designs, ffs, despite them being also very muted.
How can you work for Hoyoverse but make a WUWA video? Does it not hurt your VA side of your career? Or do the agencies not care? Your content is good so it’s not a big deal and it’s also just 1 gig but I’m curious.
if it "hurted" them he wouldnt have worked with them. there's a reason he doesnt work with an agency as a vtuber, y'know. same stuff here
@@SorarikoMotone im lost. You are saying this content has no relation to the VA stuff? i've just seen a lot of weird non compete stuff from games recently specifically hoyo as well as Marvels rivals.
@@franktownsend3483 i'm just saying that if the company in any way, shape, or form would try to interfere with his life and vtuber stuff, he wouldnt have worked with them in the first place. he already avoided burning his hand on nijisanji with that one. also - non-competes are illegal now, so even less worry to have.
Honestly I’m curious about whether or not Wuthering Waves is good or not and it’s just another honkai or geshin.
i mean it is just another genshin but it has different additions and changes, no game is truely unique
I don't like the guy designs, it is so edgy for me... The dark post-apocalyptic setting puts me off as well... I'll just get Yinlin, Baizhi and Verina and perhaps play that as preparation for Azur Promilia...
get some hair in your chest man up
The only edgy design i've seen is chalcaro, everyone else just wearing same uniform.
@@gachaleaks8654 just because someone doesn't like the dark post apocalyptic theme doesn't mean that they are not manly, you are the kind of people that put off people from wanting to try the game
I hope future WW characters would be of your liking
Wuthering Waves looks cool, but their character designs looks too safe. I like Genshin's character designs more.
OMG guys is Konosuba gonna kill Frieren?!
lmao good comment
Like your characther looks cool