With the normal spins,your entry got you past vertical. I have minimal aerobic experience. Mostly in a Citabria. But some in a T-34A. Plus a few hours of spins in a C-150 Aerobat.
Loved it. Awesome video! I want an RV-7, seems like a very fun and functional experimental. Were y'all at McKinney, Texas? As in KTKI? I make trips out there fairly often.
Thanks for the kind words Josh! Yep, KTKI is where i fly out of. I believe you're out of Austin, right? Next time you're going to be at McKinney let me know and I'll come up there so we can meet and do some flying. oh yea, and I can't say enough good things about my RV-7a! Except for being only a one passenger plane I couldn't want anything more. Gene
OldFliersGroup Yes, that's true, we stay with the tower so that they can alert us if there's any traffic coming into the area that's not on KTKI frequency. It's not a 'designated ' practice area per say where we do our Acro. It's just outside KTKI Class D to the East. With Bravo to the West, 90% of the GA traffic comes into the airport from the east.
For example our clubs tow plane (PIK-15 Hinu) is known for getting in to a dangerous flat spin, even when the CG is within the margins. It might recover if you get the CG more forward, by opening the harness and getting as front as you can, but won't recover always just by control inputs (atleast what I've heard, I do not want to try it). Non-type certified aircrafts might be difficult or impossible to recover once the spin exceeds the one-turn certification standard, because in some cases it evolves to a flat spin, just like in the PIK-15. A real flat spin is something you don't always recover from that easy (and actually I was taught that you can't recover from a proper flat spin, but as seen, it is possible for example with some aerobatic planes). I believe the spin you did after 7:17 wasn't a flat spin, for me it looked like just a normal spin, but a tiny bit flatter. Also, I believe that most of the planes doesn't even get to a flat spin if the CG is in the correct place, ofcourse there are some exceptions, like this PIK-15 Hinu, which is an Experimental. And also, where is the limit between a normal spin and a flat spin? I have done many spins flatter just by pulling the stick, but in my opinion it has still been just a normal spin, not a flat spin. This is what I think atleast.
Thanks for posting this.
With the normal spins,your entry got you past vertical. I have minimal aerobic experience. Mostly in a Citabria. But some in a T-34A. Plus a few hours of spins in a C-150 Aerobat.
Adam is such a great guy! I use to work with him and he knows his stuff!
7:46 "we're going to be a frisbee" Made me smile and pucker at the same time..
LOL! For me, the pucker part was immediate, the smile didn't come until I was safely in my easy chair at home replaying the video footage 😉
I would contact information to get trained in the RV-7A.
Loved it. Awesome video! I want an RV-7, seems like a very fun and functional experimental. Were y'all at McKinney, Texas? As in KTKI? I make trips out there fairly often.
Thanks for the kind words Josh! Yep, KTKI is where i fly out of. I believe you're out of Austin, right? Next time you're going to be at McKinney let me know and I'll come up there so we can meet and do some flying.
oh yea, and I can't say enough good things about my RV-7a! Except for being only a one passenger plane I couldn't want anything more.
Gene
Awesome! I was actually JUST there, got home to Austin this afternoon. I'll let you know when I'm up there next!
On a cool 50F winter day flying solo it will climb for a limited time at 2,000 fpm and then taper off to 1,500 fpm. Not an Extra but still a fun ride!
Great video - and yeah, he's clearly a teacher! Thanks for this, looking forward to the rest.
Thanks Greg!
How do I hire this guy to go up with me in mine?
Extremely useful Ty Fly safe regards from LPPT
I never saw the nose drop before the spin. Isn't this incorrect entry? Are you using ailerons with rudder to initiate the spin?
Great video. Do you have a jettison canopy on your RV?
Noticed you were in the training area but still on Tower frequency?
OldFliersGroup Yes, that's true, we stay with the tower so that they can alert us if there's any traffic coming into the area that's not on KTKI frequency. It's not a 'designated ' practice area per say where we do our Acro. It's just outside KTKI Class D to the East. With Bravo to the West, 90% of the GA traffic comes into the airport from the east.
7:17 "Any plane will recover from a flat spin" - This is not true.
My gut instinct tends to agree with you joakim. He did qualify with "unless it has a aft CG". Maybe that's the distinction?
For example our clubs tow plane (PIK-15 Hinu) is known for getting in to a dangerous flat spin, even when the CG is within the margins. It might recover if you get the CG more forward, by opening the harness and getting as front as you can, but won't recover always just by control inputs (atleast what I've heard, I do not want to try it). Non-type certified aircrafts might be difficult or impossible to recover once the spin exceeds the one-turn certification standard, because in some cases it evolves to a flat spin, just like in the PIK-15.
A real flat spin is something you don't always recover from that easy (and actually I was taught that you can't recover from a proper flat spin, but as seen, it is possible for example with some aerobatic planes). I believe the spin you did after 7:17 wasn't a flat spin, for me it looked like just a normal spin, but a tiny bit flatter.
Also, I believe that most of the planes doesn't even get to a flat spin if the CG is in the correct place, ofcourse there are some exceptions, like this PIK-15 Hinu, which is an Experimental. And also, where is the limit between a normal spin and a flat spin? I have done many spins flatter just by pulling the stick, but in my opinion it has still been just a normal spin, not a flat spin. This is what I think atleast.
F104 + flat spin = destination fucked
Someone farted at 5:52
Acro in an RV? No thanks