This show is awesome. Thanks Ben and Lauren. You helped me pick the Oztent RV3 for my budding hobby. Bought it from Snowys and it rocked up in less than a week.
We actually started out using a hard top roof top tent on our daily drive (family of 3) and we learnt very quickly that is way more suitable for grey nomad who will have the tent permanently fixated on top of car. It also change the car's driving dynamic significantly, too. Sold the rtt as soon as we had the chance. And now we are happily reside in our Zempire Aerodome Pro2 :)
Great feedback thanks, Andy. This is exactly how I feel about rooftop tents. While I use my 4WD for camping whenever I can, I also use it around town between trips and a rooftop tent would impede the ability to do this easily. Even in the back of my car, apart from a shelf everything in the rear is easily removable so I can use the space for everyday needs. I reckon that once I'm retired and spending more time travelling a rooftop tent will be my shelter of choice, for now my Oztent RV5 is more than sufficient. ~ Ben
We are working on that, Sinanovic_11, I've got a trip later this year and I'll try and film my setup then. I think that given my minimalistic ways, people may find it underwhelming. ~ Ben
Like most avid campers, I too have multiple tents acquired throughout the years. I update my tent as new technology and design appears, and/or my camping requirements change or need it for a specific activity. I have several small 3 person dome tents (too low to stand in) & a tall 4 person dome tents (with extra vestibule/awning), a single swag, a stretcher tent, and to my latest purchase, a 4 person instant up tent. I still even have the very first tent I bought (in the late 80s when I was 10 years old), a Jackaroo A-Frame tent - though I haven't used this since the early 90s. I only got the instant up tent this year (after watching your videos) to replace my 4 person dome tent which I now find tedious to put up. Not the ideal tent to use when touring camping (ie. only staying 1 night at each sites etc). I also have specialist tents, like a hiking & a cycling tent (ie. all about compactness and weight). The instant up is used when I bring my girlfriend with me, and the stretcher tent if I go on my own. But I'm now in the market for a hard shell RTT to do both. I'm looking for something light with a narrow profile when closed. Do you plan to sell hard shell RTT in the future?
I don't know of any plans to stock other rooftop tents in the near future, Hammer Rocks, but you never know what the future holds. Thanks for your feedback, I was just recently looking at all my tents, one of which includes a hiking tent that I had in scouts. No idea what condition it is in as I haven't set it up in decades. ~ Ben
Currently using a zempire evo air tent. Everything is great, except the tent is still bulky and heavy. I always dream of having an RTT, since normally our journey will be touring and on the move. Even we are stationary at the campsite for several days, RTT is good for separating us from wet grounds and spiders. We suffered several thunderstorms inside our empire air tent. The tent keeps us dry and cozy, but the bulky weight when packing up and transporting makes me always want something more convenient like an RTT. Even though RTT seems like a good concept when we encounter some long driving or bad weather, but we can't move around once our RTT has been seated up. Also is impossible to drive into cities (Sydney) because of the crazy low clearance in every parking lot. We stayed at a campsite last May with the air tent we owned, and we still can drive to the amenities for a shower at night. The campsite is built on a hill, and our site is at the bottom. Driving is easy, but walking in pitch black with cold temperatures and hill climbs isn't fun. I've recently thought of a different idea, but I don't know how it will actually work out, hope Lauren and Ben might give us some ideas. Get a smaller tent, like a hiking tent, an air swag (The Dometic one is lighter and less bulky than the traditional one), or a Coleman Swagger. The swag might not suit us since we still need an awning that is mounted on the car, which the car is also "peg down" with the swag, to keep us and our boots dry (swag lacks a vestibule to store gear). A hiking tent is great because is so light, but we are concerned about the building times if we use it for touring during the holiday. The Coleman Swagger is a great concept, but we are skeptical about the long time reliability, i.e., the steel poles rusting, the fabric longevity against the element, etc. Occasionally we can set up a tarp over the tent to cover more shade space if needed rather than an awning that has to be mounted on the car. Seems it might be a balance between light and easy setup, but because I've not owned the air swag, the Swagger, or the hiking tent, we couldn't have a great idea about how easy or hard to set up or against the bad weather.
I think you've got some good ideas for saving on space and weight, Ryan. A rooftop tent, whilst convenient for set up, can be considerably heavier than your Zempire EVO, make sure you consider this in your decision. A hiking or compact tent is a great way to save weight, but keep in mind that many compact tents, hiking tents in particular, are made with weight in mind and not designed to sit in UV light day after day, not to say you can't do this, but it will significantly shorten the life of the tent. A canvas tent or one with heavier duty polyester fabrics will withstand UV much better. Of the smaller tents you mention, the Dometic Pico which is canvas, and the Coleman Swagger are probably better suited to your needs. The more time either of these spend in the sun the shorter their lifespan, but you'll still be getting your dollars worth out of your purchase. The only other real consideration is standing space, which you have in your Zempire tent, but you would need to cater for via an awning or annex if you use a compact or rooftop tent. I don't think there is an answer for you here, I'd suggest you come up with what you think works best for you then you'll need to give it a go and modify if needed, it's unlikely you'll get your setup right the first time. ~ Ben
Personally I sleep in the back of my 4x4 when solo camping but for family trips or trips where I can not camp from the vehicle I do have a couple of tents. I have a 6p & 10P, 2 room tent. The 6p is ideal for 1 or 2 people and the 10p sleeps 4-6 comfortably. Both give a heck of a lot more room inside than a swag, are lighter and much smaller even with bedding and mattresses when packed up. As for Roof Top Tents I still tend to think they are way too much weight on top of a vehicle and many vehicles such as my Pajero really don't have the Roof Load Rating suitable especially off road. Swags in my opinion are way too over sized with such little room inside. I do have a mate that sleeps in his single swag on his roof. A swag does go up a little easier than my 6p tent but the tent provides so much more space.
When we started camping heaps, I considered swags until I realised how much space they take up when packed away. With our Prius, there’s just not enough room. Maybe a polyester large bivvy style would work, but I just cut out the middle man, so to speak, and my 8-year-old and I just sleep in the back of the Prius! Our tiny camper is getting close to perfect now, but I still have to figure out what’s going to work best for us for an easy covered outdoor area.
I reckon a simple tarp attached to roof rack is an easy and lightweight covered outdoor space. I'm trying to work out how I can do this with a strip of sail track and tarp with sewn in keder edge. Then all you need is a couple of alloy upright poles or just tie off to a tree. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors I actually carry all the parts I need to do that, but I reckon I’ll install an awning one day, because it’s gotta be just a bit easier to pull out when it’s already raining, rather than having to pull the tarp out of the roof pod, unfold it, then attach the tarp to the roof racks.
@@coralieofjumpwithnofear I've gone the other way. Had an awning but pulled it off to save weight. I figure an awning weighs about 10-13kg and has one use. Whereas a tarp, two poles, two guy ropes, and a strip of sail track probably only weigh 2-3 kg. The tarp can also also be used as a windbreak or groundsheet and can be setup independently of the car. If I add two telescopic poles then I've got all sorts of options. ~ Ben
Roof top tents are terrible unless you just want to use it as a shelter at the end of a day's exploring. We had an Outdoor Connection (no affiliation) weekender for a few years which was great and as our family expanded we just got the Aria Elite 2 air tent. Havent had a chance to use it yet but these tents are the future. So easy to put up and the fly stays on it so it all goes up together. For quick, easy, comfort and space you can't beat this style. For myself when I go away on a fishing trip with the boys I have actually packed into a big duffel bag, a small instant tent, inflatable mattress, pillow and sleeping bag. Takes up less space than a swag, more room and quicker set up. The swag probably only wins on sleeping comfort due to mattress but the self inflating mattresses are pretty good to be honest
Outdoor Connection tents are underrated for sure, and the air tents are the way of the future I reckon, especially for large family style tents. Thanks for your comments. ~ Ben
Stretcher tents are a good option for on the move camping, very quick to set up, off the ground, pack up smaller than a swag, most require an additional mattress though
I take my 2 young kids camping, we use a double swag but it's quite tight ,takes up a lot of space and is not that quick once I take it off the roof rack, lay out a ground sheet, etc. Looking around 10 minutes in total. Packing it away wet is a pain as well. Rtt next for us.
i just purchased a tradesman trailer second hand and makiong a camper. im going to potentially purchase a oztent rv5 or blak wolf 300. the oztent is great for setup and the blackwolf for covered space. i have twin 3 year olds. i have a double swag at the moment and the kids will use that when they are older.the setup is so i take the weight out of the 4x4 and able to have a one stop shop. Swags are good for solo trips or one child depending on the weather but a tent is better with 2 kids and the wife as there is living space. what done tent do you have ben?
I use an RV5, Anthony. The only things I don't like is the weight and packed length, but to offset this they are still lighter than a rooftop tent, set up really easily and stand up reliably to bad weather. I've recently purchased RV side panels too as I've removed the awning from my 4WD to save weight, that way I can create a weather protected space under my tent awning. I'm trying to have items that allow me to set up camp in a variety of fashions based on the weather. If the weather is hot and I don't need the side panels, I can use the poles to setup a tarp for extra shade. If it's wet and cold, I'll add the side panels to the tent awning and back my car up close to enclose the space. I'm all about everything having more than one use. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors thanks for the reply. I love the rv5 and used it with the family. My neighbour just sold me a Oxley 7 for 200. Had to get rid of it. It is not as easy to set up but all the same once you set the fly on the rv5. Plus it didn’t break the bank.
I've used swags ground tents be it the roof top tent takes the cake in my opinion way cleaner to pack up and set up is a breeze also mind you I took my rrt of my ute and mounted it on a box trailer to free up my vehicle
The main downside seems to be the somewhat permanent nature of rooftop tents on a vehicle, but more people are overcoming this by using a trailer. Thanks for your comment, Michael. ~ Ben
I don't like Rooftop tents,(1) As you mentioned,if you want to go sight seeing,for example you have to pack it up.(2) If it's been raining or a cold frosty night,the steps can be slippery,especially if you have kids.(3) And if you been drinking alot it can be abit hairy,and you dont want to be up and down going to the toilet during the night.
What do you think of the really cheap $14 kmart and big w tents. They are only 1.4kgs. They say they have a bit of problems with leaking through the door but that would be solved with a cheap tarp.
They will do everything a cheap tent will promise, so you will get your moneys worth. You just can't expect them to withstand extreme weather reliably, and you are unlikely to get the same life out of the tent on the basis that the fabrics and waterproof coatings are likely of lesser quality. It depends on how you feel about waste too, I don't like the idea of buying cheap multiple times and throwing the broken/worn item into landfill, but that's just my POV though. ~ Ben
@@alimfuzzy the best I can suggest under $100 is the Oztrail Nomad or Hiker tents, but if you increased your budget to the $150-$200 range you'll get a much better tent. The Companion Pro Hiker for example is an excellent value choice. Have a look through our range here - www.snowys.com.au/hiking-tents. ~ Ben
@@alimfuzzy I reckon I could only do that with a load of speculation thrown in. I've no idea what the return rate is actually like with the Kmart tent, and I don't have any knowledge of how they fare after some use in the field, nor any feedback on how weatherproof they are. I can only really go of off the fact that $14 is not a lot of money for a tent. ~ Ben
RIP MALCOLM THE LEGEND DOUGLAS.....make jason and simon look like noobs - .....swags are good but cant situp inem much but i prefer them over shitty tents, only use a tent when i go hiking, oh benny got a hot tip for ya....oztrail burn it all its no good the cheap shit lol haha
Gotta love some old school Malcolm Douglas. OZtrail have gone through a few changes in recent years, they used to have some pretty cheap stuff in their range but some of the stuff we are seeing come through is much better than it used to be. It's still aimed at the middle of the range, but it's good value for money. ~ Ben
This show is awesome. Thanks Ben and Lauren. You helped me pick the Oztent RV3 for my budding hobby. Bought it from Snowys and it rocked up in less than a week.
You're welcome, I'm glad we were able to help with your purchase decision. I've no doubt you'll love your RV3. ~ Ben
We actually started out using a hard top roof top tent on our daily drive (family of 3) and we learnt very quickly that is way more suitable for grey nomad who will have the tent permanently fixated on top of car.
It also change the car's driving dynamic significantly, too.
Sold the rtt as soon as we had the chance. And now we are happily reside in our Zempire Aerodome Pro2 :)
Great feedback thanks, Andy.
This is exactly how I feel about rooftop tents. While I use my 4WD for camping whenever I can, I also use it around town between trips and a rooftop tent would impede the ability to do this easily.
Even in the back of my car, apart from a shelf everything in the rear is easily removable so I can use the space for everyday needs.
I reckon that once I'm retired and spending more time travelling a rooftop tent will be my shelter of choice, for now my Oztent RV5 is more than sufficient.
~ Ben
Would be cool to see some of the setup you guys talk about. Ben's set up sounds quite interesting
We are working on that, Sinanovic_11, I've got a trip later this year and I'll try and film my setup then. I think that given my minimalistic ways, people may find it underwhelming. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors cant be as bad as my car setup mate lol im only a few yrs in compared to your veteran history haha
Like most avid campers, I too have multiple tents acquired throughout the years. I update my tent as new technology and design appears, and/or my camping requirements change or need it for a specific activity. I have several small 3 person dome tents (too low to stand in) & a tall 4 person dome tents (with extra vestibule/awning), a single swag, a stretcher tent, and to my latest purchase, a 4 person instant up tent. I still even have the very first tent I bought (in the late 80s when I was 10 years old), a Jackaroo A-Frame tent - though I haven't used this since the early 90s.
I only got the instant up tent this year (after watching your videos) to replace my 4 person dome tent which I now find tedious to put up. Not the ideal tent to use when touring camping (ie. only staying 1 night at each sites etc). I also have specialist tents, like a hiking & a cycling tent (ie. all about compactness and weight). The instant up is used when I bring my girlfriend with me, and the stretcher tent if I go on my own. But I'm now in the market for a hard shell RTT to do both. I'm looking for something light with a narrow profile when closed. Do you plan to sell hard shell RTT in the future?
I don't know of any plans to stock other rooftop tents in the near future, Hammer Rocks, but you never know what the future holds.
Thanks for your feedback, I was just recently looking at all my tents, one of which includes a hiking tent that I had in scouts. No idea what condition it is in as I haven't set it up in decades. ~ Ben
Currently using a zempire evo air tent. Everything is great, except the tent is still bulky and heavy. I always dream of having an RTT, since normally our journey will be touring and on the move. Even we are stationary at the campsite for several days, RTT is good for separating us from wet grounds and spiders. We suffered several thunderstorms inside our empire air tent. The tent keeps us dry and cozy, but the bulky weight when packing up and transporting makes me always want something more convenient like an RTT.
Even though RTT seems like a good concept when we encounter some long driving or bad weather, but we can't move around once our RTT has been seated up. Also is impossible to drive into cities (Sydney) because of the crazy low clearance in every parking lot. We stayed at a campsite last May with the air tent we owned, and we still can drive to the amenities for a shower at night. The campsite is built on a hill, and our site is at the bottom. Driving is easy, but walking in pitch black with cold temperatures and hill climbs isn't fun.
I've recently thought of a different idea, but I don't know how it will actually work out, hope Lauren and Ben might give us some ideas. Get a smaller tent, like a hiking tent, an air swag (The Dometic one is lighter and less bulky than the traditional one), or a Coleman Swagger. The swag might not suit us since we still need an awning that is mounted on the car, which the car is also "peg down" with the swag, to keep us and our boots dry (swag lacks a vestibule to store gear). A hiking tent is great because is so light, but we are concerned about the building times if we use it for touring during the holiday. The Coleman Swagger is a great concept, but we are skeptical about the long time reliability, i.e., the steel poles rusting, the fabric longevity against the element, etc. Occasionally we can set up a tarp over the tent to cover more shade space if needed rather than an awning that has to be mounted on the car. Seems it might be a balance between light and easy setup, but because I've not owned the air swag, the Swagger, or the hiking tent, we couldn't have a great idea about how easy or hard to set up or against the bad weather.
I think you've got some good ideas for saving on space and weight, Ryan. A rooftop tent, whilst convenient for set up, can be considerably heavier than your Zempire EVO, make sure you consider this in your decision.
A hiking or compact tent is a great way to save weight, but keep in mind that many compact tents, hiking tents in particular, are made with weight in mind and not designed to sit in UV light day after day, not to say you can't do this, but it will significantly shorten the life of the tent. A canvas tent or one with heavier duty polyester fabrics will withstand UV much better.
Of the smaller tents you mention, the Dometic Pico which is canvas, and the Coleman Swagger are probably better suited to your needs. The more time either of these spend in the sun the shorter their lifespan, but you'll still be getting your dollars worth out of your purchase.
The only other real consideration is standing space, which you have in your Zempire tent, but you would need to cater for via an awning or annex if you use a compact or rooftop tent.
I don't think there is an answer for you here, I'd suggest you come up with what you think works best for you then you'll need to give it a go and modify if needed, it's unlikely you'll get your setup right the first time.
~ Ben
I just switched form Ep 13 to 15 and you guys Ben and Lauren, have the same clothes on. Ep 13 was about a budget you guys have saved money on clothes.
Good eye! Sometimes we record two episodes on the same day if we have other events or constraints to work around.
~ Lauren
@@SnowysOutdoors I sat on the remote and when I hit play again it happened to be that episode.
Bush company RTT for the win 🥇 it acts as roof rack with extrusions for mounting like a roof rack. Plus it sets up in less then 30 seconds 😎👍🏼
They look pretty cool, Ty. Heavy though, 90-100Kg! ~ Ben
Personally I sleep in the back of my 4x4 when solo camping but for family trips or trips where I can not camp from the vehicle I do have a couple of tents. I have a 6p & 10P, 2 room tent. The 6p is ideal for 1 or 2 people and the 10p sleeps 4-6 comfortably. Both give a heck of a lot more room inside than a swag, are lighter and much smaller even with bedding and mattresses when packed up. As for Roof Top Tents I still tend to think they are way too much weight on top of a vehicle and many vehicles such as my Pajero really don't have the Roof Load Rating suitable especially off road. Swags in my opinion are way too over sized with such little room inside. I do have a mate that sleeps in his single swag on his roof. A swag does go up a little easier than my 6p tent but the tent provides so much more space.
I concur with all your comments here, Mick, well said. ~ Ben
When we started camping heaps, I considered swags until I realised how much space they take up when packed away. With our Prius, there’s just not enough room.
Maybe a polyester large bivvy style would work, but I just cut out the middle man, so to speak, and my 8-year-old and I just sleep in the back of the Prius!
Our tiny camper is getting close to perfect now, but I still have to figure out what’s going to work best for us for an easy covered outdoor area.
Thought about a Swagger ?
I reckon a simple tarp attached to roof rack is an easy and lightweight covered outdoor space. I'm trying to work out how I can do this with a strip of sail track and tarp with sewn in keder edge. Then all you need is a couple of alloy upright poles or just tie off to a tree. ~ Ben
@@drew5763 They look pretty cool, but I’m super happy that I no longer have to put up a tent.
@@SnowysOutdoors I actually carry all the parts I need to do that, but I reckon I’ll install an awning one day, because it’s gotta be just a bit easier to pull out when it’s already raining, rather than having to pull the tarp out of the roof pod, unfold it, then attach the tarp to the roof racks.
@@coralieofjumpwithnofear I've gone the other way. Had an awning but pulled it off to save weight. I figure an awning weighs about 10-13kg and has one use. Whereas a tarp, two poles, two guy ropes, and a strip of sail track probably only weigh 2-3 kg. The tarp can also also be used as a windbreak or groundsheet and can be setup independently of the car. If I add two telescopic poles then I've got all sorts of options. ~ Ben
Roof top tents are terrible unless you just want to use it as a shelter at the end of a day's exploring.
We had an Outdoor Connection (no affiliation) weekender for a few years which was great and as our family expanded we just got the Aria Elite 2 air tent. Havent had a chance to use it yet but these tents are the future.
So easy to put up and the fly stays on it so it all goes up together.
For quick, easy, comfort and space you can't beat this style.
For myself when I go away on a fishing trip with the boys I have actually packed into a big duffel bag, a small instant tent, inflatable mattress, pillow and sleeping bag. Takes up less space than a swag, more room and quicker set up.
The swag probably only wins on sleeping comfort due to mattress but the self inflating mattresses are pretty good to be honest
Outdoor Connection tents are underrated for sure, and the air tents are the way of the future I reckon, especially for large family style tents.
Thanks for your comments.
~ Ben
Stretcher tents are a good option for on the move camping, very quick to set up, off the ground, pack up smaller than a swag, most require an additional mattress though
Yep, great option for solo travelers. ~ Ben
I take my 2 young kids camping, we use a double swag but it's quite tight ,takes up a lot of space and is not that quick once I take it off the roof rack, lay out a ground sheet, etc. Looking around 10 minutes in total. Packing it away wet is a pain as well. Rtt next for us.
Rooftop tents definitely have the benefit of quick and easy setup and pack down. ~ Ben
i just purchased a tradesman trailer second hand and makiong a camper. im going to potentially purchase a oztent rv5 or blak wolf 300. the oztent is great for setup and the blackwolf for covered space. i have twin 3 year olds. i have a double swag at the moment and the kids will use that when they are older.the setup is so i take the weight out of the 4x4 and able to have a one stop shop. Swags are good for solo trips or one child depending on the weather but a tent is better with 2 kids and the wife as there is living space. what done tent do you have ben?
I use an RV5, Anthony. The only things I don't like is the weight and packed length, but to offset this they are still lighter than a rooftop tent, set up really easily and stand up reliably to bad weather.
I've recently purchased RV side panels too as I've removed the awning from my 4WD to save weight, that way I can create a weather protected space under my tent awning.
I'm trying to have items that allow me to set up camp in a variety of fashions based on the weather. If the weather is hot and I don't need the side panels, I can use the poles to setup a tarp for extra shade. If it's wet and cold, I'll add the side panels to the tent awning and back my car up close to enclose the space.
I'm all about everything having more than one use.
~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors thanks for the reply. I love the rv5 and used it with the family. My neighbour just sold me a Oxley 7 for 200. Had to get rid of it. It is not as easy to set up but all the same once you set the fly on the rv5. Plus it didn’t break the bank.
I've used swags ground tents be it the roof top tent takes the cake in my opinion way cleaner to pack up and set up is a breeze also mind you I took my rrt of my ute and mounted it on a box trailer to free up my vehicle
The main downside seems to be the somewhat permanent nature of rooftop tents on a vehicle, but more people are overcoming this by using a trailer. Thanks for your comment, Michael. ~ Ben
I don't like Rooftop tents,(1) As you mentioned,if you want to go sight seeing,for example you have to pack it up.(2) If it's been raining or a cold frosty night,the steps can be slippery,especially if you have kids.(3) And if you been drinking alot it can be abit hairy,and you dont want to be up and down going to the toilet during the night.
Haha, thanks for the feedback, Norm. ~ Ben
What do you think of the really cheap $14 kmart and big w tents. They are only 1.4kgs. They say they have a bit of problems with leaking through the door but that would be solved with a cheap tarp.
They will do everything a cheap tent will promise, so you will get your moneys worth.
You just can't expect them to withstand extreme weather reliably, and you are unlikely to get the same life out of the tent on the basis that the fabrics and waterproof coatings are likely of lesser quality.
It depends on how you feel about waste too, I don't like the idea of buying cheap multiple times and throwing the broken/worn item into landfill, but that's just my POV though.
~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors could you recommend a tent that would be under 1.5kgs that would be under $100?
@@alimfuzzy the best I can suggest under $100 is the Oztrail Nomad or Hiker tents, but if you increased your budget to the $150-$200 range you'll get a much better tent. The Companion Pro Hiker for example is an excellent value choice. Have a look through our range here - www.snowys.com.au/hiking-tents. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors it would be interesting to see you do a side by side comparison video between the nomad 2 and the kmart brand.
@@alimfuzzy I reckon I could only do that with a load of speculation thrown in. I've no idea what the return rate is actually like with the Kmart tent, and I don't have any knowledge of how they fare after some use in the field, nor any feedback on how weatherproof they are. I can only really go of off the fact that $14 is not a lot of money for a tent.
~ Ben
swag, tarp n some rope n bits works for me
Classic set up!
~ Lauren
Rooftop tent works well on a trailer, that way your car is still free .
Good point, Robert, a great way to spread the load too. ~ Ben
You can find plenty of legendary Australian Bushman Malcolm Douglas videos on Advartis videos UA-cam channel.
That looks like a cool channel, thanks for the heads up. I could get lost for hours watching those vids. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Correction, it’s Advartis videos ( not Ardvartis ☺️)
RIP MALCOLM THE LEGEND DOUGLAS.....make jason and simon look like noobs - .....swags are good but cant situp inem much but i prefer them over shitty tents, only use a tent when i go hiking, oh benny got a hot tip for ya....oztrail burn it all its no good the cheap shit lol haha
Gotta love some old school Malcolm Douglas.
OZtrail have gone through a few changes in recent years, they used to have some pretty cheap stuff in their range but some of the stuff we are seeing come through is much better than it used to be. It's still aimed at the middle of the range, but it's good value for money. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors yeah I've had my experiences mate I hate cheap brands esp oztrail and Coleman