Star Citizen Week in Review - 3.23 Wipes, 4.0 is Next? And It's Sale Time!
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#StarCitizen #SaltEMike #3.23 - Ігри
100% Need to expect big tech pushes to be rocky, however, marketing needs to stop pretending this is a Ready to play, viable, live service game. They set one expectation for new players, and then new players face the harsh reality.
I mean, have you not seen the commercial that shows multiple irises and javelins duking it out with a whole fleet of fighters assisting. That seems to imply this is an in game experience event.
Right, that's one of my biggest gripes about this game. They try to market it as if it's all ready and playable but behind the scenes say "it's all a testing environment."
These are nerds in dream land...thinking money come with kind words. cheating is ok. They have been milking money from users to long... thinking the cow is not dried up..! Show me a working game if you want money....! Not some gaming show.
When you ask where are the features/gameplay?: Its an alpha, these things take time, its not finished yet.
When its time to sell some phat jpegs: STAR CITIZEN, PLAYABLE NOW! ANSWER THE CALL TODAY!!
Veeery convenient...
@@doityourself3293 is this not what governments do with taxes?
In the time this game has been in dev, my kid has grown up to become a 13-year-old who now wants to play SC. It's hard to wrap my mind around how long ago the kickstarter was. I've already warned him that it will likely be another 5 years minimum before we reach beta. He'll be an adult by then. lol
I don't know if I cry or if I laugh.
Connie as an 18th birthday gift 😂
There's something beautiful to that😢. I'm not terribly old but in the time I've played this game and been apart of the community I've watched myself grow into a full person with a career on the horizon and a really great relationship. I've watched this game grow beside me.
@@jameskrazeNever forget where you came from once
Hahaha, when the game is done his kids will have had kids.
They added a 2nd screen to Loreville.... If this means a 2nd terminal to New Deal that is BIG. 🤣
LONG overdue, lol
I thought there was a second screen at ND like a year or two ago.
There was a pretty good line when I was there last night. Everyone trying to spend uec before the wipe lol.
@@therandom802That’s in live, the new screen is currently in EPTU only.
Honestly.. even 2 screens seems too low, I would have expected them to put in a row of them like at the A18 place. For how it has been in the game so far 2 screens may seem decent, but if server meshing works out like it's suppose to in the near future this problem gets way worse.
@@Fe7Ace True. With server meshing it'll be overcrowded, specifically when people are grinding last minute to get a ship before some event time runs out. They should have four terminals minimum
Disco Lando put on his gamer hat and said, "Pyro this Summer."
Pardon me if I don't hold my breath based on....a decade of receipts.
My recollection differs. I remember the "in the next 12 months" promise.....Pyro never was among them.
@@robwoodring9437 Pyro has been promised a few times. Soon is a meme for reason
@@mayoluck I'm just saying it was not among the "within 12 months" list.
I use the Soon meme a lot myself
@@robwoodring9437 Chris Roberts himself, in 2019, stated that Pyro would be released in 2020. That cemented the sentiment that any time frame from CIG is a joke.
@@bobstark4201 yeah well I wasn't in SC in 2019. The "next 12 months" statement I'm referring to is from the last citizencon. At least in that list of promises Pyro was not mentioned.
Can't vouch for (nor cry about) broken promises I never witnessed in the first place.
Im excited to see the wildlife standing on chairs.
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Bugs out and fills the hospitals xD
Waking up to them staring into your soul
Cranky community member here. That momentum/enthusiasm you mentioned is at about 10% of what it was at in october for me.
Same. Just hearing about how things have been going make it clear that "Pyro next summer" turned out to be a joke. No way the next quarter patch is 4.0 and if it is, yikes it will be an absolute wreck.
It really is hilarious how we collectively keep falling for the same shit every year lol
as someone who backed in 2018 and became disillusioned around 2021 i have to say that october did almost nothing for me in terms of me being enthusiastic or hyped.
that area in regard to star citizen is just a big numb spot and will remain so until the game will be properly released i guess, until any of the two games will be properly released.
spent way too much money and energy on being hyped and it turned out a wet fart.
@@th3orist The reality is that Star Citizen is made up of 50% people who have realized how terrible this game's project management is and that it'll virtually never release as envisioned, and 50% new people who act as white knights to defend any and all actions that CIG take whether it results in a game being developed or not.
The former has stopped funding the game, but it makes no difference to a deadline because for every previously hyped backer that has lost their enthusiasm, 9 white knights are waiting to take their place. Out of my friend group, I am the only one actively following Star Citizen, and several of them don't even know about the game. In 3-4 years, I am sure that some of them will either see an ad, a youtube video, another citizencon or whatever and decide "Woah this game looks hype Ill back it" - there will always be more people to back the game, that's just how many gamers there are.
CIG doesn't care about those of us who backed this game 10 years ago, they care about the people that are going to back it today, tomorrow, and _ad infinitum_ into the future.
And to those people, a game doesn't matter nearly as much as promises.
@@CobusGreyling well put.
We don't need actual night vision. We need augmented vision. All they need to do is make it so the ping effect is permanent so we can see the flipping ground when trying to land in the dark or one of the perpetual storms on some of the moons. Would be so easy to implement since it's already in the game!
I set up a macro to auto ping every 3 seconds. As close as we can get to some type of lidar navigation system right now lol
CIG never does anything the easy way.
i love your idea. Would be great to show the effect on the ground when landing gear is down.
Nice Idea, possibility to set some kind of delay disparition time
Thank you Mike.
I don't have time to watch all the SCL's and ISC's nor to read spectrum. Your "Star Citizen Week in Review" that I get every Tuesday morning when I wake up is what keeps me in the loop with Star Citizen development. I fully agree with you that it's really good to finally have somebody in the position of Richard Tyrer speaking without BS, calling the elephant in the room and basically saying out loud all the obvious things that maybe should have been said earlier.
Keep it up, you're doing great!
“ Sometimes this community reads into things too deeply.” the understatement of the year.
Very nice! WIR is your domain, no doubt. Pls keep up the excellent work. Looking forward to the next.
I like your content mate. In the beginning where you said "oh yeah if it's your first time here"...yeah that helps to hear for newcomers like me, haha.
I just need stability, actual progression, and actual content. I'm barely excited until I see this stuff in my hands but let's see what CIG does this year.
That's how Ive felt but damn October has been a while ago....
I think you have to check the 3.23 patch
Night vision, great, but how about some simple lights on the underside of you ship that turn on when your landing gear is down? Seems like, in the future, they would have figured that small improvement out.
They already spoke about this before and they are building a landing system
@@LuxTenebrae What worries me is the word 'system'. I don't want to wait for a 'system'. I want the equivalent to a few of those battery operated LED lights that you click on and off, that you put into your dark closet or pantry. Something quick and easy to implement, until a bigger 'system' is designed, developed, tested, and implemented.
@@sevilnatas As would we all but, we get what we get. I know Corsair has some landing lights and such. Been landing in the dark so long I don't really pay attention
@@sevilnatas well with all the ships in the game can you imagine how many led lights will have to be installed? This is a very expensive project, will take a million billion zillion dollars at least
Knowing Chris Roberts, whatever “system” they put in place will be cinematic but barely functional.
Lets get it. 3.23 is going to be very important when we look back. Looking forward to it, regardless the bugs
i like this guy...he has a vision and a way to make it work. it clear how clear his goals and ideas are, that as he leads we will see more of the game in less time than that which we have seen up until now.
I for one, love the big tech focus. Hard to see many of the small things coming if the big ones arent. Replication layer, solid persistance, meshing. These are things we need.
Cool idea around crafting would be to have a ship focused around salvage that takes the salvage and turns it into components for crafting on the ship. have drake make it like an alternate recycling vulture (Turn your dead foes into ammo), loses its ability to store salvage but instead grants ready to use crafting components for making ammo, guns, attachments, armor. Maybe if you put ballistics on this recycling vulture then its recycler turns salvage material into ammo that feed directly into the guns but that's not really balanced so probably don't add that part unless the guns are super underpowered.
Yes being able to buy a component that say can convert salvage into ammo for ballistic weapons would be great! Even when mined there are alot of minerals metals in Asteroids!
Great show Mike, thank you for your efforts.
Nice summary! There were a couple "ship" sneak peaks in the Invictus trailer - the medical Ursa and some kind of MPUV variant
Omg a second terminal to new deal, now you know this patch is gonna be huge
Understanding what an mmo is. They are pushing for trade and mining and salvage to require armed escort. Making it specifically more difficult for a those types of ship to escape combat by being slower, less weaponry and now the inability to QT with shields up. So yeah, makes the smaller life goals sound unlikely when solo.
For now, I think we haven’t properly seen this game where people are actively seeking out and attacking resource gathering ships.
When that happens I’m confident they will make a change if there is a great imbalance.
I think We need a full wipe in order to get proper data points.
Nice one. Have a good start this week!
I REALLY enjoy my aUEC M2, I am in NO way interested in purchasing an M2 with real money.
I DO realize that M2/C2's can make HUGE money very quickly.
The trouble is balancing the cost of the Starlifters V.S. rewards of missions.
I am not interested in doing 10,000 $4k missions just to buy an M2 with aUEC and the cash price is too high for me to be interested in a 4th pledge ship.
Nobody is doing only 4k missions to earn anything. Why bring up such a weird example? I agree with the rest of your comment though!
@@TheBod76 It just seems to me that all of the approachable missions are silly low payout for the effort and time involved, that's all.
Even box missions, as soon as you get to the 12-20k missions, pirates will reck your life before you can even touch down.
I am interested in Retail Arbitrage gameplay right now with some bunker missions and spelunking mining sprinkled in.
I find spelunking really cool and the mining part just a side benefit, BUT, super bad ROI for time......
@@richarddortch6122 I totally agree that RoI is all over the place.
Hull munching takes allmost zero effort/skill and basically prints money, mining on the other hand takes planning, skill and extreme patience to make any meaningfull money.
Hopefully they will find a way to make it make more sense.
I agree with you.
Cranking up the prices because u have players that don't have a life and grind 24/7.
Then a full time worker logs in with his maximum of 4 hours of gameplay a few days a week.
Just makes these new ship prices unrealistic.
Could take a person months of the same (At that point) Unenjoyble grinding gameplay to get a ship another player got within a week. Because they don't have a full time job or a family to look after.
The by the time u even get that ship...BOOM 4.0 is dropped and it gets wiped.
@@buchanpeter they are definitely building this game geared towards those 1000+ hours per year players. No way I would have supported this garbage if that vision was communicated years ago. I play for fun and escape not as a second career.
Fantastic video. Thank you for the time and effort!
Star citizen will hopefully never stop developing and keep growing and expanding
your clip selection from SCL is superb. gives hope
I haven't checked in on your content in years. Nice to see you being critical in a nicer, more constructive way. Good update video, keep up the good work! 👍
Very relevant ISC clip, don't apologize for taking the time to let that pan out Mike!
Awesome comments, Mike. I always find myself agreeing with you with all your points!
A side note about trade and war: Conflicts are driven by the economy, which fuels most historical processes. It is a great motivator, right? It will be interesting to see how these forces are included in the game and interact with offer, demand, territory control, and resources (piracy, contraband, and war).
"Love" the video Mike. I don't always have time to watch CIGs vides so this is a great resource to get caught up.
Nice one, great recap of the week :)
Also briefly teased in the Invictus Trailer: The Ursa Medical and an ARGO MPUV with a tractor beam. So it seems its going to be a year full of LTI tokens going straight to "flyable", and then probably some concept ships.
I personaly hope for a full wipe.
It was so easy getting money in the last patches that i have basicly bought every ship i wanted + some more in the game so now i dont have a reason to grind anny more.
Didnt even take long. i made 10's of millions in a single run.
The Supportset Armor you‘ve seen on the medic in the polaris fly by video.
The channel is blowing up because you make good content and there are many tarkov refugees looking for new games, and finding you that way.
Love the retro music ending!
The bed logging thing I can understand because when I read the post about it. The person worded it like bed logging wasn't supposed to be in the game and won't be in the game in the end. But I'm glad they clarified what they actually meant
Happy to hear about the mmo being an mmo. I really dont want a bunch of capital ships with one guy and all AI crew. Save that for single player parts.
On that note I personally would still like stronger needs for bed longging. Logging off in cities fine... but having a secure area for safe logging is nice for immersion and crew management. Would love for bed loggers to be shown actually in the bed they log off in. Not just disappear.
@@elkneto4334 Probably around the same time you grow up. :D
I think he didn’t mean rentals as in rented ship but meant in game bought ships because of how he said what he said, everyone just using all of their money now to buy ships at a cheaper price
Love what Rich is doing and how he communicates clearly. I am a little bit optimistic.
Been away awhile (again) love the new intro, it's cool to see how much you improve every year
Thanks Mike, I really enjoy these videos, you strike a nice balance of fair criticism and hope/expectation, in them. I’m personally not interested in hype or drama, just here to see what the progress and directions are.
To get crafting would mean true off-grid living! Count me in. :) o7
I feel like we’re probably still going to get a 3.24 patch before 4.0. If not, I would expect to see another 3.18 situation where we go through a LOT of .x patches before 4.0 is finally ready.
What's the threshold for them to release a 4.0, is it just server meshing alone?
@@barrybarry8564 Meshing and for Pyro to be completed, we've only ever seen barely half in the playground releases
Awesome video SaltE : As always lots to digest from CIG and you present it well there is so much Im looking forward to from the EPTU that is hard to know which feature im more excited about catch you in the Verse brother
What player wouldn't like to have an apartment in Area 18 or Lorville and enjoy the lore and running around the cities doing quests and many other things. Time to push for content and get teams to work on all this.
I really like the take on bedlogging that we get rewarded for logging out in bed but we are not punished directly. That is really good gamedesign
Missed the medical ursa sneak in trailer ') great round up!
On the sneak peek what you missed, is the parts that will open on it, e.g. tool storage. Towing attachement to add another to it, and lights and indicators that we may see NPC use when turning. Love this long week in reviews... keep up the sterling work.
really great info thanks
Tbh just thinking about it claims should have options to accelerate at different rates for different prices. Would be a good gold sink and be less frustrating/waiting.
Tech is so important. I am absolutely of the same opinion as you. I would be content to see Maelstrom, Server Meshing etc. be the priority over the next year and get through some of the debilitating issues that are bound to pop up just so we can have thos cohesive experience
We're still missing some game loops, such as refining, construction, crafting and commerce, that would help to link professions together. Raw minerals (salvage & mining) > refined minerals > cargo transport > selling to players > repair and construction > combat creates salvage.
what about journalism and combat? commit warcrimes and report on them
@@omegaroguelp It wasn't a wishlist, it was the actual missing loops, we've still got to get, to complete that overall gameplay loop. There's, other stuff outside that loop, but they only rely on portions of it. Passenger transport, bounties, missions, faction work, etc
@@Anachroschism mine too, journalism is a planned profession afaik (a ship for it even already is in game)
If the team was realocating SQ42 developers to the SC PU to implement the SQ42 features, it wouldn't seem to me that the team would be under any extra pressure. Reducing the team overall with layoffs may have, but my hopes are that the SQ42 team also transitions to positions that work exclusively on SC and accelerate the development of the SC PU.
the salt was good! appreciate!
Hey mike
would appreciate if you could provide timestamps for your sections in the description, as they automatically add chapters in the video and make it easy to navigate.
They should pull engineering into a campaign to find and get a wrecked idress up and running. Once it gets off the ground things keep going out from other players trying to slow it down to doc...maybe it never leaves atmo? Does not matter if you get to keep it, the adventure would be fun.
22:35 "Light Enhancement" is what modern night vision is.
Rich is frankly a massive upgrade, you can see he pushed Squadron 42 forwards massively, and why he’s been moved across to sort Star Citizen out. We’re seeing that first impact in the ambition of the 3.23 patch, and the whole team deserve kudos to me. I also like the level of stability I’m getting, but hate the new looting UI and can’t do basics like pick up another weapon when I have two on my backpack, it’s weird and not intuitive.
CIG hit the jackpot with Rich Tyrer. He's FINALLY cracking the whip and holding people's asses to the fire and we're FINALLY starting to see things get done.
If the game needs more money sinks, add cost to things like stays in hotels, medical care, transferring a ship to a location should have the option at a higher cost to be transported instead of insurance claimed. I also think that base building and maintenance will be the biggest money sink.
Alright, maybe this is nitpicky but they mentioned the Starlight scope. For anyone unaware, that is 1960s night vision tech. I would be wondering if we're getting some proper hi tech vision enhancement or if we're just slapping a F03 green filter on and cranking the gamma up.
It is nice to see a bit of pushing within the SC team, but I also think a lot of this is the SC team suddenly got a huge increase in numbers because of SQ42 being in finalizing and polish.
i tried to do some delivery and bunker missions yesterday. every mission bugged and could not be finished. holy moly
Good to hear the leadership admit SC is not a game. Now they have to sow the parts together.
I'm so excited for what is to come, i understand that its going to take a bit. But damn I'm excited.
waiting for 3.23🥱
I hope I can find enough to do at the DCs because that seems to be the only addition that’s actually substantive and not just aesthetic
@16:07 He's talking about "A good Onboarding Experience". Helldivers does a decent job at this, with it's basic intro level to learn the basics.
We could do with something similar in Arena Commander, a module for fps and ship based combat, mining, salvage, engineering, basic flight, on foot navigation, etc etc.
Also that comment about 1000s of hours of AC content,, if that could equate to In verse rewards for AC accomplishments, that would be great.
Rich Tyrer for President!! Seriously tho, glad he‘s in the position he‘s in.
The week in review music actually hits so hard.
Regarding the question if wiping ships too would be usefull for testing the new 'economy' i ´d completely agree. But I also would like to point out that this would probabely not neccessary if the players had the ability to sell their ingame purchased ships to shops.
If i could free up money by selling ships to buy other ships i would constantly be able to buy new ships, e.g. for trying a new carreer or for just a better / bigger ship for my chosen gameloop.
Would be nice to change hud colors and to polorize your cockpit when do to lower the sun glare if your heading in the direction of the sun
one important question i have yet to see asked/answered anywhere. when do the deconpens get a different color? i constantly loot them, thinking they are medpens.
Live date, week of May 12. I'm hearing likely the 15th. (Have former classmate working for CiG).
If all we got from crafting was all the handheld tools, ammo, and medpens for this year I would be so happy
love it, keep it up
The whole NV ideas CIG has is years behind the curve. I don't see how they haven't noticed crashing into asteroids in pitch black isn't fun gameplay.
For me the best thing is that the Telemetry page is working again…. Took em long enough
I just want a pair of binoculars and maybe a night-vision option
i have been keeping my ingame baught ships for several patches already
I’d like to see CIG do something different for Fleet Week this year. Add some small surprises and side events, a little extra content here and there, make the expo venue look and feel meaningfully different (the new one at A18 is great, but it’s still the same spawned hallway as usual and exact same layout). Anyway I’m personally looking forward to it, and think CIG have had a good 6mths since CitizenCon and deserve our support.
Regarding the Zeus, didn't CIG say at one point they expected it to be finished around the time of the next Citcon?
and for solo player we need npc crew
hold on. a 2nd screen to new deal? What sorcery is this? Did the remove the 3rd screen from dumpers depot in area 18 to get this mystery screen?
how big is this wipe is it worth for me to do any progressing right now?
Lola reminded me to like the video.
21:51 my V key is wearing out from spamming scan. I need night vision for shipped lol😂😂😂
your V key will be relieved then as it is going back to TAB
Reshade. It absolutely solves this issue until CIG gets their stuff in. And they explicitly add Reshade to the white list for Easy Anti-Cheat. They just added it for Vulcan, and it has been white listed for DX11 for a while now. The popularity of Reshade is exactly why they are looking into putting their own in. And it works now.
We out here boys. First I believe.
I like the idea of light enhancement, but at the same time, you should be able to use the quick flares and flashlights to blind people using it
Definitely. It'd give those underbarrel flashlight attachments a true reason for being.
Screw night vision, when can we dim HUD? :D
Hey @SaltEMike, another good WIR. It seems that the monthly report has ignited your hopium tank -> Yes, plenty of exciting sounding things coming soon[TM] - The eternal catch with CIG is the _when_ and how much of a feature gets implemented! I'll wait and see as and when (or _if_ ) these things actually materialise in the PTU/PU.
As to your "I've changed my mind" video - even after seeing the key points from Rich Tyrer in this video, I would maintain that patches for Invictus and IAE - the big free-fly events _need_ to be fairly stable so that new ppl and the folks that only check-in every 6 months have as good as an experience as possible.
- I can see Rich's point about, "we've got to get the tech into the PU" to move forward ... I expect the tech preview channel is a good vehicle for that, to help minimise impact to PU when that tech gets there
- At the moment, we're having the appearance of another 3.17.0 or 3.18.0 PU release, which weren't the best of looks for SC from a PR around major sales event point of view.
We need AI blades and NPC crew, otherwise there is no reason to play at the moment
i only have 10mill, but, if money is wiped, and ships aren't. then it's probably in my best interest to buy a couple cheaper ships or one bigger one before update... unless CIG full resets, then it doesn't really matter..
a co-op PvE hoard or R6: Terrorist Hunt type AC mode could be good. would be interesting to see AI in full terminator mode lol...
Mike as your channel grows you should put out some polls it would be super interesting
I don’t think polls of a community you build which would agree with your PoV makes much sense, it will always skew and not be representative of the overall community of the game.
Nice video
To me the auec only wipe makes sense. They seem to want to test the economy out in different steps and this is the quickest way to test the game's economy at its equilibrium. Having a full wipe now will just increase the time to gather the data and frustrate the player base that can't put dozens of hours per week in the game. There will be a full wipe anyway later on as well so I really think it would be unnecessary now
Tech trumps all, if the server meshing tech is legit and works how they say it will, I would imagine licensing that tech out would make a bunch of money.
Ship sale time, yayyyyy!!!