1:39 A year later, and you can understand why Kobo and Altare get along soo well. Altare has basically become that older brother that Kobo had been yearning for, as they really embody that older brother/younger sister dynamic, which is soo bloody sweet.
I totally understand what Kobo’s going through. I myself have a brother who’s on the spectrum, so I have to be there to help him out when my parents aren’t around. And just so that everyone is aware: in the real world, there is no such thing as a perfect family. It’s sucks to hear it, but someone has got to say it sooner or later.
I get that. My own little brother is on the spectrum and sometimes gets a bit much, so sometimes I do kinda wish he would be a bit more normal, even though of course he can't. But of course I still love him and try to support him as much as I can, even though he keeps rejecting my offers to help and support him
i understand this thought, but ... what's the fun in being normal? what IS considered normal? if it's being an accepted part of society, yeah... that's a tough one for us sometimes. however, we really are just as normal as anyone else. our brains just work a little different. :)
Maybe you shouldn’t think like that on “normal”, a lot of problems *we* face have to do with how modern society is set up, a lot of autistic traits used to be beneficial at another period in time, that’s why they’re recessive neruological traits. What you might be offering as help and support might come off as overbearing, as I can attest to in my own experience. Because I have a fear I won’t become independent if I learn helplessness. When he suggests he can manage things on his own, remove those “training wheels”.
Autism has several degrees. I have seen several very... Heartbreaking cases. I wish endurance to all relatives, wherever you are in the world. It can involve a lot of resignation, sorrow, and pain.. But in my eyes and for your injured loved ones, you are all heroes!
@@dinosaurusrex1482 High- and low-functioning are just terms for autistic people with or without comorbidities. The conditions that make people high or low aren't even part of autism, therefore using these terms doesn't really make sense. It's like if someone was in a wheelchair and you'd blaim that on their lisp.
As someone on the autism spectrum, I totally understand kobo’s frustrations about her little brother having autism. Granted, (I think) I’m more high-functioning than most on the spectrum.
I had high functioning Autism The most hard part is I don't really understand emotion from a young age, so i read some people said "what kobo said it's hurt or rude" I'm not really found it was hurtful or anything. When I'm at elementary i do shunned and labelled "autistic" when I don't even know what that's supposed to mean (but i do know that's not a good thing). I live in Indonesia so My mom especially doesn't even accept the fact i had autism and forced me to be normal, and i said to her if you hated me it's okay to stabbed me. Idc about living nor want to continue to live I never loved someone, i don't have any friend and i feel numb about everything, on top of it my family is really broken 💔, that i need to hide from abusive stepdad and my sister always used me as scapegoat for her fault.
i disliked her from this clip but watched more of her videos, I think this clip misunderstands her words a lot! she is also autistic so it doesn't rlly matter IMO and she is a blunt person and just says things
Yeah Autism is a very particular disorder. I worked with kids that were on the spectrum and hope to work with more when I'm certified, and yeah it can be difficult for families and peers to work with it. Of course you love them as part of your family, but the accommodations necessary for low functioning kids can be hard for people that are off the spectrum or even high functioning autistic people to understand and adapt to. It's not mean or cruel for people like Kobo to wish for a more familiar and streamlined life for the people they love and for their own convenience. It's very natural and the fact that she grew an understanding of it is very good and mature
It's really dehumanizing for people to wish that you are not the person you are right now and it shouldn't be in their control to deem you as broken. That's why people just need to accept things like that and move on. It's better for autistic people anyway if you treat them like a normal human being and accept them for who they are, rather than change them.
@TageM well yeah, it's dehumanizing but it does happen. In a perfect world we'd all just accept one another but that's not how it really works. Kids especially are pretty selfish by nature and with their simpler view of the world, they tend to think in that way of "I wish they were normal" because they just don't know that being autistic is normal. It's the same with adults that have autistic children where, if they've never had exposure to autism, they could fall into the same camp. My point is that it's very human to feel that way, especially if you see the disorder causing a loved one distress or if providing care youre unfamiliar with isnt something youre ready to take on, but it's important that if you do, you grow and learn not to think that way about those who function differently than you. Everyone is human and everyone is different, and one day I hope the world can be more informed about these disorders. In the meantime though, I don't think that this is simply a malicious thing or should be seen as "this person is just being insensitive". A lot of the response is from misinformation, wanting to relate to someone as a kid, or seeing people struggle and wishing that the struggle could simply stop. It's not the correct response though, and people should definitely learn to accept them for who they are. I agree.
@@nateroo1486 If people don't do that, it can very easily get out of hand. I mean just look at autismspeaks. They pretty much deal with these emotions alone and use them to further their agenda. For them it's not about making the world better for autistic people or giving them the tools to do it themselves, no they want to make the world better for everyone else. And every autistic person who speaks out against them gets treated as a child who doesn't know what they're talking about. It's really disgusting. I think they're still thinking about that whole cure stuff. Which isn't possible. The only cure that will work is acceptance, because in a world where we are just accepted like we are and our difficulties get tackled, we can function the best, if not sometimes even better. I for one have my own office and can do my work in my pace, rather than being surrounded by a bunch of people triggering my sensory issues. The fact that I have to use the train everyday is still difficult for me. Too many people and too much noise. But I can function mostly. It could be even better though.
i don't think kobo stated it as good as she could've had, but i understand where she's coming from. unfortunately a LOT of what she said was horribly stated. we are struggling more than anyone in our family ever could. if they think they're struggling, they should definitely re-think everything. i get it, but also... no.
@@TageM_Official Is it dehumanizing for someone to wish you'd not have a disability? What does accepting and moving on means? You're saying that like it's not an everyday challenge. I don't think anyone is treating them inhumanly and definitely no one can change them. One thing is treating everyone like humans, another is thinking that being disabled is not a problem or even that is a positive thing. I'm starting to think you didn't know what a deeply autistic person is.
i kinda understand kobo, my aunt have a child with autism, the only boy there. her youngest daughter really close to me . she's not really get along with her brother because her brother quite mischievous because of this disability . i really think she is my little sister. she unconsciously want me to doting and care as her brother. i do think that also kobo wants..
idc if i'm late or not, but i understand now why she is the way she is. The reason she says she wants a normal brother is because she doesn't like seeing her brother suffer with autism, she wasn't trying to be rude about it on stream or make it sound rude, but genuinely deep down in her heart she wishes her brother was healthy and that he didn't have to deal with his autism so they could both live a happy life as siblings (not that she doesn't right now) but she yearns for that older brother younger sister bond that unfortunately her brother can't give her because of his autism. aside from that, when i first started watching Kobo through clips, shorts, and in collabs with other members, she always gave me a little sister vibe. i don't view her like how she explained in this stream like "oh i wanna date her" or a lovers thing or whatever's, she always gave me a cool little sister vibe, and that's one of the reasons why i adore her. and it's okay if you don't agree with what i wrote, everyone has their own opinion, i just wish for our little sister kobo a happy life.
Me and my brother have autism but he has it "worse" and I get what's she's talking about, its so tiring and frustrating for the people around him (including me obviously) and literally nothing can be done to stop it unfortunately
Does she have male (or any) irl friends? Also, people in chat are assuming she insulted the whole spectrum because she vented about her brother specific case.
They are just stupid, and probably they dont have the same problem that kobo have so they dont know how kobo or anyone feel to taking care autism or disabilty people. Is not that kobo hate it, but deep down for every people always wanting a perfect family member that just a human nature
She has, because she said in her stream when she open comifuro merchandise, the one who buy the merchandise she want is her friends that go to comifuro Also, i dont think the chat assuming she insulting autism because what i see is the chat just sad because kobo is crying and want to calm her down and spamming patting kobo head emoji, it mean they just want to say "dont worry we understand", crying emoji when other is crying usually mean we cry with u/ i am sad too, i dont know how u can translate the chat emoji and word like that
@@MDG-mykys i am wondering about that too, why the comment have a lot of negative comment, it normal for other to tell their difficulties with a friend and the chat in her stream has no problem hearing about her difficulty but it just chatting not like she dislike her brother😅
People were too harsh on her for this segment of her stream. I have a nephew, my very first nephew in fact, who is on the spectrum and anyone who tells you that they never wished that their atypical relative was “normal” is a liar. It is tough at times to deal with. It doesn’t mean you love them any less, and these moments come and pass - but they’re there. So I completely understand and don’t fault her for expressing the desire for a “normal” brother. English isn’t her first language so she maybe worded it a bit poorly at worst.
Trying to sugarcoat it wont help. Family members being at peace with his condition doesnt mean that it will magically be easier. I applaud Kobo's honesty here.
Autism Spectrum Disorder. It was a case that I got since I was born. And I was not easily live by freedom. Becoming UA-camr, and has many pain including brain, heart and mindset. That's why I'm here to comment with you.
The son of my mom's sister also has an autism. I used to frequently see him and visit his family, when he was around 10 years old. And I can imagine how tough it was for his parents to handle him and take care of him(even though his autism degree isn't very high). But fortunately, over the years, his autism started to has a less affect on him and he even started to do new hobbies(which I don't remember alas). He even moved to the US alongside with his family, and they're having a great time there.
As a sister, they probably don't hate you. They themselves probably have autism too. I hated people to hug/touch me, and my brother would try everything to make me hug him, I would get mad at him, of course. But I love him, I wouldn't be able to live without my little brother.
@@AjehZaelani oh, sorry. I didn't got enough sleep because of the power outage that occurred in the middle of the night so my head isn't working properly
High functioning Autist here, you are right it's pretty much a developmental disability. I think I've learned how to "act" normal after all these years. ;)
@@aigenerated6786 It is but I can understand where her frustration coming from. Rarely you see the caretakers or the related venting about it but it would be a lie to say it never crossed their minds. Taking care of dementia-afflicted person would be more so.
@@kazuharailfan.2909 If I was her brother I would be destroyed by her words, also the autistic people in her chat, she is just acting like autistic people are failures and saying how glad she is that she can hang out with "normal" people
@@ryugaknight she said she was choosing the words wrong & it's hard to explain what her feel in english, so she understands others might misunderstood it bcs of the language barrier
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1:39 A year later, and you can understand why Kobo and Altare get along soo well. Altare has basically become that older brother that Kobo had been yearning for, as they really embody that older brother/younger sister dynamic, which is soo bloody sweet.
Come on big bros, little bros, big sis, and little sister's. Let's protecc our little blue shaman.
All he need is kobo's love and kobo already give it to her brother , very beautifull siblings
Family is all he needs.
*she- ??? lol
@@sutomuarashi brother so 'he' is correct
ooh i thought we were talking abt kobo herself lmaoo @@the_pineapple245
@@the_pineapple245 the brother is a girl now/j
I totally understand what Kobo’s going through. I myself have a brother who’s on the spectrum, so I have to be there to help him out when my parents aren’t around.
And just so that everyone is aware: in the real world, there is no such thing as a perfect family. It’s sucks to hear it, but someone has got to say it sooner or later.
I get that. My own little brother is on the spectrum and sometimes gets a bit much, so sometimes I do kinda wish he would be a bit more normal, even though of course he can't. But of course I still love him and try to support him as much as I can, even though he keeps rejecting my offers to help and support him
i understand this thought, but ... what's the fun in being normal? what IS considered normal? if it's being an accepted part of society, yeah... that's a tough one for us sometimes. however, we really are just as normal as anyone else. our brains just work a little different. :)
@@snowysnowwishbecause it’s stressful for him as well, being different will cause conflict, I hope he is doing alright.
@@ArcanistShion As a person with autism you couldn't be more correct.
Maybe you shouldn’t think like that on “normal”, a lot of problems *we* face have to do with how modern society is set up, a lot of autistic traits used to be beneficial at another period in time, that’s why they’re recessive neruological traits.
What you might be offering as help and support might come off as overbearing, as I can attest to in my own experience. Because I have a fear I won’t become independent if I learn helplessness. When he suggests he can manage things on his own, remove those “training wheels”.
Autism has several degrees. I have seen several very... Heartbreaking cases. I wish endurance to all relatives, wherever you are in the world. It can involve a lot of resignation, sorrow, and pain.. But in my eyes and for your injured loved ones, you are all heroes!
There is no such thing as “several degrees”. Autism is a spectrum
@@Sinc3r3ly Or "injured loved ones". Autistic people are just people. They are not broken.
@@Sinc3r3ly exactly! Anyone wants some info on "lower functioning" autistics, take a look at r/spicyautism. It's a funny name, but very informative.
@@TageM_Official from someone with high-functioing autism, they look pretty broken to me.
@@dinosaurusrex1482 High- and low-functioning are just terms for autistic people with or without comorbidities. The conditions that make people high or low aren't even part of autism, therefore using these terms doesn't really make sense. It's like if someone was in a wheelchair and you'd blaim that on their lisp.
As someone on the autism spectrum, I totally understand kobo’s frustrations about her little brother having autism. Granted, (I think) I’m more high-functioning than most on the spectrum.
I had high functioning Autism
The most hard part is I don't really understand emotion from a young age, so i read some people said "what kobo said it's hurt or rude" I'm not really found it was hurtful or anything.
When I'm at elementary i do shunned and labelled "autistic" when I don't even know what that's supposed to mean (but i do know that's not a good thing).
I live in Indonesia so My mom especially doesn't even accept the fact i had autism and forced me to be normal, and i said to her if you hated me it's okay to stabbed me. Idc about living nor want to continue to live
I never loved someone, i don't have any friend and i feel numb about everything, on top of it my family is really broken 💔, that i need to hide from abusive stepdad and my sister always used me as scapegoat for her fault.
See the brightside, you can always make a gas leak and get the insurance or anything they left for you.
That was a joke just in case.
i got an autistic sibling, his mom really forced him to become normal:((
i disliked her from this clip but watched more of her videos, I think this clip misunderstands her words a lot! she is also autistic so it doesn't rlly matter IMO and she is a blunt person and just says things
Let's just all collectively agree that we are all now Nene's husband, Fubuki's friend and Kobo's brother.
That "Mary" is Merry of Merryweather Comics, there are hilarious clips of Kobo's interacrion with him.
Yeah Autism is a very particular disorder. I worked with kids that were on the spectrum and hope to work with more when I'm certified, and yeah it can be difficult for families and peers to work with it. Of course you love them as part of your family, but the accommodations necessary for low functioning kids can be hard for people that are off the spectrum or even high functioning autistic people to understand and adapt to. It's not mean or cruel for people like Kobo to wish for a more familiar and streamlined life for the people they love and for their own convenience. It's very natural and the fact that she grew an understanding of it is very good and mature
It's really dehumanizing for people to wish that you are not the person you are right now and it shouldn't be in their control to deem you as broken. That's why people just need to accept things like that and move on. It's better for autistic people anyway if you treat them like a normal human being and accept them for who they are, rather than change them.
@TageM well yeah, it's dehumanizing but it does happen. In a perfect world we'd all just accept one another but that's not how it really works. Kids especially are pretty selfish by nature and with their simpler view of the world, they tend to think in that way of "I wish they were normal" because they just don't know that being autistic is normal. It's the same with adults that have autistic children where, if they've never had exposure to autism, they could fall into the same camp. My point is that it's very human to feel that way, especially if you see the disorder causing a loved one distress or if providing care youre unfamiliar with isnt something youre ready to take on, but it's important that if you do, you grow and learn not to think that way about those who function differently than you. Everyone is human and everyone is different, and one day I hope the world can be more informed about these disorders. In the meantime though, I don't think that this is simply a malicious thing or should be seen as "this person is just being insensitive". A lot of the response is from misinformation, wanting to relate to someone as a kid, or seeing people struggle and wishing that the struggle could simply stop. It's not the correct response though, and people should definitely learn to accept them for who they are. I agree.
@@nateroo1486 If people don't do that, it can very easily get out of hand. I mean just look at autismspeaks. They pretty much deal with these emotions alone and use them to further their agenda. For them it's not about making the world better for autistic people or giving them the tools to do it themselves, no they want to make the world better for everyone else. And every autistic person who speaks out against them gets treated as a child who doesn't know what they're talking about. It's really disgusting. I think they're still thinking about that whole cure stuff. Which isn't possible. The only cure that will work is acceptance, because in a world where we are just accepted like we are and our difficulties get tackled, we can function the best, if not sometimes even better. I for one have my own office and can do my work in my pace, rather than being surrounded by a bunch of people triggering my sensory issues. The fact that I have to use the train everyday is still difficult for me. Too many people and too much noise. But I can function mostly. It could be even better though.
i don't think kobo stated it as good as she could've had, but i understand where she's coming from. unfortunately a LOT of what she said was horribly stated. we are struggling more than anyone in our family ever could. if they think they're struggling, they should definitely re-think everything.
i get it, but also... no.
@@TageM_Official Is it dehumanizing for someone to wish you'd not have a disability?
What does accepting and moving on means? You're saying that like it's not an everyday challenge. I don't think anyone is treating them inhumanly and definitely no one can change them.
One thing is treating everyone like humans, another is thinking that being disabled is not a problem or even that is a positive thing.
I'm starting to think you didn't know what a deeply autistic person is.
i kinda understand kobo, my aunt have a child with autism, the only boy there. her youngest daughter really close to me . she's not really get along with her brother because her brother quite mischievous because of this disability .
i really think she is my little sister. she unconsciously want me to doting and care as her brother. i do think that also kobo wants..
My Idiot Brother is an Indonesian drama film released in 2014. This film is based on the novel of the same name, My Idiot Brother by Agnes Davonar .
As someone who also has a brother that has autism and fits, she have my respect
When the world needed a little sister, Kobochan stepped up to the plate.
idc if i'm late or not, but i understand now why she is the way she is. The reason she says she wants a normal brother is because she doesn't like seeing her brother suffer with autism, she wasn't trying to be rude about it on stream or make it sound rude, but genuinely deep down in her heart she wishes her brother was healthy and that he didn't have to deal with his autism so they could both live a happy life as siblings (not that she doesn't right now) but she yearns for that older brother younger sister bond that unfortunately her brother can't give her because of his autism. aside from that, when i first started watching Kobo through clips, shorts, and in collabs with other members, she always gave me a little sister vibe. i don't view her like how she explained in this stream like "oh i wanna date her" or a lovers thing or whatever's, she always gave me a cool little sister vibe, and that's one of the reasons why i adore her. and it's okay if you don't agree with what i wrote, everyone has their own opinion, i just wish for our little sister kobo a happy life.
Me and my brother have autism but he has it "worse" and I get what's she's talking about, its so tiring and frustrating for the people around him (including me obviously) and literally nothing can be done to stop it unfortunately
Does she have male (or any) irl friends?
Also, people in chat are assuming she insulted the whole spectrum because she vented about her brother specific case.
They are just stupid, and probably they dont have the same problem that kobo have so they dont know how kobo or anyone feel to taking care autism or disabilty people. Is not that kobo hate it, but deep down for every people always wanting a perfect family member that just a human nature
She has, because she said in her stream when she open comifuro merchandise, the one who buy the merchandise she want is her friends that go to comifuro
Also, i dont think the chat assuming she insulting autism because what i see is the chat just sad because kobo is crying and want to calm her down and spamming patting kobo head emoji, it mean they just want to say "dont worry we understand", crying emoji when other is crying usually mean we cry with u/ i am sad too, i dont know how u can translate the chat emoji and word like that
@@annacme-fs5gs I mean the comments under this video
@@MDG-mykys i am wondering about that too, why the comment have a lot of negative comment, it normal for other to tell their difficulties with a friend and the chat in her stream has no problem hearing about her difficulty but it just chatting not like she dislike her brother😅
@@annacme-fs5gs well is internet. there are assho** in every media that wants to annoy other people
People were too harsh on her for this segment of her stream. I have a nephew, my very first nephew in fact, who is on the spectrum and anyone who tells you that they never wished that their atypical relative was “normal” is a liar. It is tough at times to deal with. It doesn’t mean you love them any less, and these moments come and pass - but they’re there.
So I completely understand and don’t fault her for expressing the desire for a “normal” brother. English isn’t her first language so she maybe worded it a bit poorly at worst.
People get offended towards anything nowadays.
Trying to sugarcoat it wont help. Family members being at peace with his condition doesnt mean that it will magically be easier. I applaud Kobo's honesty here.
I love u too my precious Kobo
I have Autism, so this feels a bit personal...
Autism Spectrum Disorder. It was a case that I got since I was born. And I was not easily live by freedom. Becoming UA-camr, and has many pain including brain, heart and mindset. That's why I'm here to comment with you.
Kobo's an angel dude...
The son of my mom's sister also has an autism. I used to frequently see him and visit his family, when he was around 10 years old. And I can imagine how tough it was for his parents to handle him and take care of him(even though his autism degree isn't very high).
But fortunately, over the years, his autism started to has a less affect on him and he even started to do new hobbies(which I don't remember alas). He even moved to the US alongside with his family, and they're having a great time there.
He is lucky to have such family, such sister 😊
So this how my sister view me
But kobo says in different stream. That She very love her brother and happy
@@meogie good for her brother, sad for me because my sister hate me
@@indosuprem2296
Later in life, she’ll come around to it lol
As a sister, they probably don't hate you. They themselves probably have autism too. I hated people to hug/touch me, and my brother would try everything to make me hug him, I would get mad at him, of course. But I love him, I wouldn't be able to live without my little brother.
@@hoothoo2443 ok i am not that autistic i don't want to touch and hug my sister
Having a little brother is already hard enough, I can't imagine how hard it is to have a little brother with autism
Its her Big bro..
@@AjehZaelani oh, sorry. I didn't got enough sleep because of the power outage that occurred in the middle of the night so my head isn't working properly
@@DamslettesSIMP no it's ok, just info👌
ouch, she worded it very roughly, which i understand because of her lack of english but damn
No? Trying to sugarcoat it is just evading the problem. Please be openminded and not coddle this unfortunate situation.
just a friendly note: autism is not a disease :)
is it disability?
@@andibachtiar8788 neither
@@dareobell4297 what is it then?
@@andibachtiar8788 more like a disorder I suppose, it is a developmental disability tho
High functioning Autist here, you are right it's pretty much a developmental disability. I think I've learned how to "act" normal after all these years. ;)
I feel like Kobo just told me I'm not normal.
In fact everything she said was terrible
@@aigenerated6786 It is but I can understand where her frustration coming from. Rarely you see the caretakers or the related venting about it but it would be a lie to say it never crossed their minds. Taking care of dementia-afflicted person would be more so.
@@kazuharailfan.2909 If I was her brother I would be destroyed by her words, also the autistic people in her chat, she is just acting like autistic people are failures and saying how glad she is that she can hang out with "normal" people
@@kazuharailfan.2909 I understand her point of view, but just the way she phrased it kinda hurt.
@@ryugaknight she said she was choosing the words wrong & it's hard to explain what her feel in english, so she understands others might misunderstood it bcs of the language barrier
Life is sad.
I came here to laugh, not to feel :'v
Kobo good sister.
The whole hololive fan are kobo's brothers
Eh Abang Jahat~
I can’t say I agree with the notion of “normal” being used here. It will make it sound like he is a burden.
Well he is a burden unfortunately