Top Gear Australia - HSV Grange VS Jag XJ Supersport

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  • @hawkez2003
    @hawkez2003 11 років тому +5

    375 Kilowatts = 510 HP 325 Kilowatts = 442 HP
    1 kilowatt = 1.34102209 horsepower
    I am American, but live in AUS. I still want it in HP as well.

  • @Brodie_-oz6vj
    @Brodie_-oz6vj 8 років тому +6

    Chuck a walkinshaw kit on the grange and it would run rings around the jag performance wise. And lets be honest, if you can afford a grange, you can afford a walkinshaw kit

  • @Alchemistifical
    @Alchemistifical 12 років тому +3

    Now I'm an Aussie, my parents have an XJ 3.0 D, great fun to drive and I'm in my teens. Jaguar is moving to the younger market, in the fashion of Mercedes Benz and Audi. They are not ugly, infact they are quite the amazing car. Many people will always ask, "Is that a Jaguar?" As if its a surprise. The Jag XJ is no longer an "old man's" car. It is a car for both the old and the young of today.

  • @oliverzeffert
    @oliverzeffert 4 місяці тому +1

    You would of had to have been thick to buy that Jag for $400k

  • @Frikadellah
    @Frikadellah 12 років тому +3

    The only HSV i've known before here in germany is the Hamburger SportVerein (sports club of hamburg), mainly known for their football team (or soccer or whatever you call it down under) ;)

  • @TVR161
    @TVR161  11 років тому +11

    Google "Luxury Car Tax Australia"

  • @the_money_pits
    @the_money_pits 9 років тому +14

    Watching this with subtitles on is pretty funny. I don't think it can figure out Australian accents haha

    • @speedy11131
      @speedy11131 8 років тому +1

      +mzammit "who needs a cow that's got the engine that well frankly should be banned by"
      :D

  • @Alchemistifical
    @Alchemistifical 12 років тому +2

    At the Melbourne Motor Show, the XJL Supersport they had was 385k and it was max spec'd. DO remember that we live in Australia, the most regulated import country in the world when it comes to luxury cars.

  • @666demonknight666
    @666demonknight666 12 років тому +1

    yeah man, i agreed, but the E2 or E1 Grange is a much better choice. E3 is just ugly.

  • @vikramrao6391
    @vikramrao6391 6 місяців тому

    This was a franchise that deserved to live on. As good as the originals in my view. Plus I got an insight into Aussie cars which we never ever got to see stateside.

  • @Hardscript
    @Hardscript 12 років тому +2

    I grew up in the back seat of a grange. It was bloody roomey in that backseat.

  • @nafism6969
    @nafism6969 11 років тому +1

    at the end of the day for those who can afford it, a car is way to have a feeling. none of these specifications bullshit is gonna mean anything unless you get the feeling you want.
    there are millionaires who could afford any car they want but they choose one car over the other not because of specifications, but because the way they feel about being seen in that car and driving it around.

  • @christopherlam2558
    @christopherlam2558 12 років тому +2

    Thats for the 6cylinder version, the XJ Supersport (SWB) is approx $360,000 add the options as most publicity cars are equipped and it really is $400k

  • @MatthewN56736n4
    @MatthewN56736n4 11 років тому +2

    There is a plant which produces engines at Fishermans Bend in Port Melbourne.

  • @Alchemistifical
    @Alchemistifical 12 років тому +1

    Only if your buying the base model, short wheel base diesel. That was a Long Wheel Base Super Sport, retail of around 375,000 AUD

  • @KHGuitarFreak1988
    @KHGuitarFreak1988 12 років тому +2

    Personally, I would still go with the Jag. However, if I had to pick the Grange, I would personally just grab a regular HSV... :)

  • @RTadzB
    @RTadzB 12 років тому +1

    I'm a car Enthusiast and am always with other car enthusiast, Not once have any of us ever even talked about a jag.... Its a European car, It will most likely stay that way.

  • @hardstylez45
    @hardstylez45 12 років тому +3

    375kw or 502hp and the 2 tonne boat takes almost 5 seconds to reach 100. good car buddy. oh and it costs a house too- there is that minor detail. happy boating!

  • @josef959
    @josef959 12 років тому +2

    Rule of thumb in Australia, everything costs twice as much as it does overseas.

  • @DerangedSloth555
    @DerangedSloth555 12 років тому +6

    Go Grange!

  • @MatthewN56736n4
    @MatthewN56736n4 12 років тому +2

    Well just letting you know, I come from Victoria, Australia; the state which porduces many parts for Holden's and Ford's and also houses their assembly plants. I have also grown up around these "cars" too. Being from a country area, they were in great abundance. Also my family has preoviously owned Holden's. (A 1990's Calais, 2003 Caprice). And we sold them with great disappointment, for they didn't furfill our expectations. I never liked European cars from the start, I grew into that liking.

  • @TVR161
    @TVR161  12 років тому +2

    From what I am seeing after a quick research they range from anywhere between $82,000 and $95,000 Depending on Options.

  • @roflcopter645
    @roflcopter645 11 років тому +1

    Wait, so... the drag race started at calder and finished at eastern creek???

  • @Alchemistifical
    @Alchemistifical 12 років тому +1

    100% Agreed. My family has The XJ 3.0 Diesel, and I will vouch for it being the most involved car I've driven, besides maybe, the Range Rover 3.6 V8 Diesel which is from the same line of Ford engine's anyway. I've had the great privileged of driving a Mercedes S350, Audi Q7 4.2 TDI and a BMW 740i. All were great cars, but the Jag, well, I need say no more than it is a terrific car.

  • @callmepot
    @callmepot 8 років тому +3

    6:23 if i had a brand spanking hsv grange and a chick said that id make her walk

    • @DarknoorX
      @DarknoorX 8 років тому

      I would literally kick her out XD especially if we were in an HSV GTS

  • @MatthewN56736n4
    @MatthewN56736n4 12 років тому

    It looks like a Jaguar. You are paying for the luxury, stately design. You obviously haven't seen it in person. It also has air suspension. REAL LEATHER AND WOOD! The technology and safety is world class. Ventilated and cooled seats. Refrigerator, high end sound system.... And that isn't all it has to offer but I can't be bothered listing them for you.

  • @666demonknight666
    @666demonknight666 12 років тому +1

    yeah E1 is better, don't know who designed the face lift.

  • @paulchaplin73
    @paulchaplin73 6 років тому +1

    The UK should definitely show Top Gear Australia. It’s brilliant, and just as good as the UKs!

  • @Leonis1989
    @Leonis1989 12 років тому

    The Jag is a compromise between luxury, looks, practicality, comfort and speed. It doesn't give you one good thing, it gives you a little of everything so you can use it for EVERYTHING.
    The only thing I don't know if it can be fitted with a towbar.

  • @scottbadman5110
    @scottbadman5110 10 років тому +3

    I'd take the Valiants at 4:55 :)

  • @Alchemistifical
    @Alchemistifical 12 років тому

    You must be looking at the standard model V8 which retails new at around $260-275k A portfolio is closer to 310k and a Diesel retails at about 200k new

  • @RockSolitude
    @RockSolitude 12 років тому

    Of course that car is going to cost nearly 400,000 dollars in Australia. You know what Australian prices are like. A strong Aussie dollar don't mean much at all when it comes to prices down here.

  • @oldfashionedwrx3574
    @oldfashionedwrx3574 11 років тому +1

    HSV any day no stupid import tax....
    I wouldn't buy either, just get a clubby, maloo or gts :)
    manual v8 and lots of tuning potential!

  • @MrMightyZ
    @MrMightyZ 10 років тому +5

    Shame about the aspect ratio.

  • @BadDriversOfTheIllawarra
    @BadDriversOfTheIllawarra 10 років тому +4

    The Grange is better looking but the Jag is faster & more luxurious....
    Im not a posh prick, the Grange would be great for burnouts.

    • @MrChevypower
      @MrChevypower 10 років тому

      My father had a VS Grange. Brand new it seemed nice, but as it aged and the rear air suspension clapped out to the point where the car would bottom out on a dip on a normal road if 3 people were in the back. The woodgrain stickers on the dash (that's right, not just fake wood, but it was on stickers, that became more noticeable as they started to peel). Then came the new model with the promise "we got it right this time." Then he got a WK Caprice and that rear suspension clapped out from towing. Always had a diff noise.

    • @BadDriversOfTheIllawarra
      @BadDriversOfTheIllawarra 10 років тому

      MrChevypower The VS is renowned for mechanical errors. The 90s was a bad time for Holden until they brought out the VT which was the best thing since the VL.

    • @MrChevypower
      @MrChevypower 10 років тому

      MrHeyfuckoff I had a VT Berlina gen 3, FE2 suspension. Powertrain was excellent, chassis was terrible. The IRS on it was a joke. Poor traction, poor handling. They put a state-of-the-art powerhouse inside a dinosaur that couldn't handle it. I test drove a Clubsport that I almost bought before I got the Berlina, and that thing at full throttle could never find traction. It would snake all over the road, even in 2nd, and if I remember right, even into 3rd. The Holden fans at the time would have just said "well that's cos it has so much power." It had too much power and torque for the chassis, but there are far more powerful RWD cars out there that can put the power to the ground. I'd say the first decent chassis was the VE though don't have much experience with it. I gave up on Holden at that point, became much more interested in 4x4s, and plus I moved to America.

    • @MrMightyZ
      @MrMightyZ 10 років тому

      Mate of mine owned a VS Calais 304 years ago. Drove it hard for four years and sold it with 315,000k on the clock and in that time needed plugs and leads and had to replace a re-breather hose. It ran like a clock when he sold it. Cheap and super reliable. (And naturally sounded better than my L98) his wife still has her 6cyl VR after 5 years, don't know the Kay's on that but it has never failed.

    • @maoripighunter
      @maoripighunter 9 років тому

      Yip

  • @TVR161
    @TVR161  12 років тому

    We have a luxury car tax which is basically a massive tax on any car over 90,000 to keep people buying cheap local cars.

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 6 років тому

      TVR161 over $65000 . But there is $150,000 taxes on a 2018 Merc s63

    • @franzchong5889
      @franzchong5889 6 років тому

      it needs to be abolished now that there is no more local industry to protect.a c class should be about $50,0000,318i bmw about the same and audi a4 2.0 about the same.

  • @oldfashionedwrx3574
    @oldfashionedwrx3574 11 років тому

    no... kilowatts is a measure of power in the metric system... Australia we use Km's, KG's, CM, it is all metric units.

  • @qotsaandsoadfan1
    @qotsaandsoadfan1 12 років тому

    The best two cars in this vid: 4:56 . nice pair of S/R Series.

  • @TVR161
    @TVR161  12 років тому +2

    You may have to settle on a Holden V8, Or Ford have a nice luxury model called the Ford G6E Turbo

  • @surfermx
    @surfermx 11 років тому +1

    i own a s-type
    and this xj is a master piece, what a car

  • @RUMBALman4downunder
    @RUMBALman4downunder 12 років тому

    in new Zealand the xj super-sport lwb is only $300,000

  • @farishanafiah8461
    @farishanafiah8461 3 місяці тому

    8:58 US$110k? Even without inflation adjustment, that is criminally way too much. You could buy two Mustang or two Camaro for that price.
    Also, the Grange rear end looks similar to the Vauxhall Vectra.

  • @Neojhun
    @Neojhun 12 років тому +1

    LOL, Land Super Yacht racing with Captain Stig.

  • @HoldenFordFan
    @HoldenFordFan 12 років тому

    The Ford and Holdens cant match the interior quality of the Jag, but dont let that put you off. The interiors are still good, even more so in the Ford with better plastics and A pillars that aren't gi-normus. The value + performance should seal the deal. :)

  • @Alchemistifical
    @Alchemistifical 12 років тому

    If its any consolation to your small mindedness, HSV actually exports cars to the UK under the Vauxhaul name plate. The fact I know this is scary as I much prefer an FPV Falcon over any Holden, however, a Vauxhaul VXR8 (Note XR8 being a Falcon Nameplate) is what some might call Australia's leading 'performance' car. The Jag is definitely one of England's leading examples. Hence the comparison. Just because the Aussie name plates are unknown to you foreigners who clearly don't speak English.

  • @Al8minium
    @Al8minium 12 років тому

    Thanks....that's bad news since I'm considering emigrating to Australia to join relatives there.

  • @branot89
    @branot89 10 років тому

    Jaguar is expensive when you compare it to HSV, but when you compare it to Porsche Panamera, Maserati Quattroporte or Aston Martin Rapide it's a bargain

    • @jacobholgate9212
      @jacobholgate9212 8 років тому

      well clearly 400 000 is not a bargain if its 110 000 in the us.

    • @2013branth
      @2013branth 8 років тому

      Welcome to the low Australian Dollar, Luxury Car Tax, and of course, shipping costs.

  • @chriscaliri7977
    @chriscaliri7977 Рік тому

    They used the na version of the grange of course it was slower.

  • @jakepf1
    @jakepf1 12 років тому +1

    I think Holden's are an Australian car because you cant buy them anywhere else unless you are buying a Pontiac or a Vauxhall and there are differences in tuning wise and body shapes. I think it is safe to say they are Australian cars just because i know they are built in America doesn't mean there Non Australian. Holden's are an Australian icon.

  • @tomk777
    @tomk777 12 років тому

    Those prices are typical.. Rolls Royce = $1m in Australia so yeah it would not be out own the ordinary.

  • @hunghuge12
    @hunghuge12 12 років тому

    If it was the only car in the world ever I would agree.

  • @dukeboy1998
    @dukeboy1998 12 років тому

    I would take the jag because its a jag what sounds better when your friend asks you what you drive HSV Grange or the proper Jaguar XJ SuperSports the name SuperSports is perfect for this car.

  • @RBFR01
    @RBFR01 5 років тому +1

    When buying a car who cares if it looses in a drag race XD

  • @coopsnz1
    @coopsnz1 6 років тому

    400k car is lct $102,000 , then there is the 18% other taxes in total 51% tax

  • @MatthewN56736n4
    @MatthewN56736n4 12 років тому

    What? Go Australian? I do like the HSV, but the cars are in completely different leagues. The Jaguar competes with Mercedes AMG, BMW M, Audi S and Lexus F. The Holden Caprice/ HSV Grange really don't have competitors. They might compete size-wise but it lacks brand prestige, quality, looks and most of all QUALITY! As the reporter said, it did have a 'no-frills' type interior with horrific plastics. So I am still wondering why Top Gear Aus even bothered comparing the two...

  • @750lilwol
    @750lilwol 11 років тому +2

    we pay to much taxes her in Australia ....... :(

  • @surfermx
    @surfermx 11 років тому +1

    $400 000 ?,
    i just saw it : in mexico it costs $ 160 000 USD,
    i think u pay much taxes

  • @esnevip
    @esnevip 11 років тому

    On that point, ever notice video games are 100 bucks and in the US they're 60?
    even though our currency is on par?
    sucks don't it :(

  • @Alchemistifical
    @Alchemistifical 12 років тому

    You could personally import 1 car that you have owned for 1 year or more from the UK.

  • @MatthewN56736n4
    @MatthewN56736n4 12 років тому

    Well you like classic Australian cars, and I like modern, new European cars; good conclusion.

  • @ThePhatShack
    @ThePhatShack 12 років тому

    Wow 400,000$? Australian Dollar must be pretty week cause I know here in Canada I can pick one up for $90,000 and $110,000 for an XJL Supersport

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 6 років тому

      ThePhatShack luxury car tax 33% , 10% gst , 5% tariffs ', 3% stamp duty

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 6 років тому

      400k car is slugged with $100,000 in lct

  • @glenstransportvideos
    @glenstransportvideos 5 років тому

    I saw an LPG sticker on the grange

  • @hunghuge12
    @hunghuge12 12 років тому

    So this is an easy decision. If you have little money and want to take lager swilling slappers out get the HSV. If you have more money, want to go faster, more comfort, much more class, have more taste and enjoy the company of people with a higher IQ than a slug it's the Jag.
    They really aren't cars you can compare and the price reflects that.

  • @3V1L011
    @3V1L011 12 років тому

    @iliabashel HSV means Holden special vehicle

  • @hsvsv8
    @hsvsv8 11 років тому

    If it's a matter of "bang for your buck" then the HSV is the hands down winner. If we're comparing them for what they are, which is high performance luxury cars, then the Jag could've blown its gearbox & diff & still be better than the Grange.

  • @ahmdooali4479
    @ahmdooali4479 12 років тому

    Hey in my country the grange they call it caprice i had one model 2006 it's very fast and i can pit the xf my car it's 520 hp not stock

  • @Alchemistifical
    @Alchemistifical 12 років тому

    And for all they want us to support the local market, they still won't by Falcon's or Commodore's despite trying to encourage the manufacturers to keep jobs. Am I the only one seeing red here?

  • @youi215
    @youi215 12 років тому

    thats why its top gear australia and for your facts hsv is holden and holden is Chevrolet, opel, pontiac, and much more about 5 or 6 companies are from the same thing (holden)
    it would smash any american car all you want are bigger cars to the point when your driving a truck

  • @dume79
    @dume79 12 років тому

    The only top gear worth watching is from the UK, with Jeremy Clarkson, this was a one sided attempt to promote a very subpar GM/Assuie product against one of the finest super sedans on the road. It's like trying to justify buying a Nissan GTR vs a Bugatti , they are both quick, both considered legends in their lanes but one more is king and we all know who.

  • @estelja
    @estelja 11 років тому

    Th XJ is $400K AUD? I thought the AUD and USD were close in value?

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 6 років тому

      Jim E 51% taxes driveway

  • @DerangedSloth555
    @DerangedSloth555 12 років тому

    400grand? Wasn't it 200grand? Or is it my eyes are playing tricks on me?

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 6 років тому

      DerangedSloth555 51% taxes , luxury car tax 33%

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 6 років тому

      $150,000 taxes

  • @josef959
    @josef959 12 років тому

    The wheels on the Grange make it look hideous

  • @mrkongsimr
    @mrkongsimr 12 років тому

    I have a jag with a supercharger ,but only 4l v8 .
    I need every horspower there is . See you step on it up to 70m then you slam on the brakes , before you get a ticket. Then do it a gain and a gain , till you have spent all the gas , you go home and ask my mother for more money.
    How can you compare these cars ??????

  • @TheMangasm
    @TheMangasm 12 років тому

    Bring your jag over! It's the only way to go. :) Maybe one day i'll buy it off you!

  • @Al8minium
    @Al8minium 12 років тому

    400,000 Australian dollars for the Jag ?????.....there must be something wrong there...surely, someone has their wires crossed ?
    Even here, in rip-off Britain, the top of the range supercharged version costs around £98,000 which is roughly equivalent to $155,000 Aus.
    Can anyone in Australia confirm the huge price hike ?

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 6 років тому

      Al8minium 51% taxes bro , 33% of the price is luxury car tax

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 6 років тому

      $100,000 in lct

  • @7071t6
    @7071t6 7 років тому

    WOW at over 330,000 dollars and yet my Stock 2015 SSV Redline does 0 to 100Km in 5 seconds ? If i added the GTS auto and Diff and a supercharger it will still be a great car to have and drive, it just depends on who does the work on your car thats all, but keeping it stock is always the go, how many times have you seen any car that has mods done to it from a stock car and you get you $$ back after you have had the car low KM as well, never ever, unless you can prove it 100% that the car is still under factory warranty, after the warrenty is gone, the price of the car goes way down, like the same car on here the XJ supercharged is now going for 110K, yet when it landed in australia it was selling for 3 times that much ?

  • @MrEvolutionist
    @MrEvolutionist 12 років тому

    and the others said that would get a jag... by the looks of where they live they will never be able to pay for either car

  • @brandonnancoo1581
    @brandonnancoo1581 11 років тому

    Super fast big comfy limo its a whole niche, S65 AMG, 760/b7alpina, S8,

  • @DarknoorX
    @DarknoorX 8 років тому

    HSV is awesome and my choice always but sadly it is BUILT in Austalia not MADE there, the design, the car itself is German and that explains why it handles so amazingly.

    • @captainkaos754
      @captainkaos754 6 років тому +2

      Dakhoon WHAT THE FUK are you talking about ya clown, the Germans had NOTHING to do with the design construction or development of ANY hsv. Your the sort of fukin moron who spread shut to other like minded dipshits.

  • @CaptainTeebsHotels
    @CaptainTeebsHotels 12 років тому

    Why did you bother watching the video then?

  • @TheFflynnie
    @TheFflynnie 12 років тому

    price is the only bar to the australians, sorry but driven the jag havnt seen the ford holden, quality over price i think.
    but having said that love aussie muscle cars.

  • @05Forenza
    @05Forenza 12 років тому

    I watched this with absolutely no expression. Thats a bad sign lol

  • @MatthewN56736n4
    @MatthewN56736n4 12 років тому

    I think your comment here has just reinforced the meaning of me saying "I can't be bothered". You think Holden's have more design and character than the biggest and best automakers of Europe. There is no point proving something to an inanimate creature. Anyway, I wouldn't want to see an organism like you in a car like those anyway. It would devalue the brand image.

  • @werdew65
    @werdew65 12 років тому

    "Top Gear" without Mr Clarkson, Hamster and Captain Slow is just a miserable fake. They create this show. Without them it is only another programme presenting cars.

  • @vika0194
    @vika0194 12 років тому

    that jag is not 400 000. It is much cheaper. Like 400 000 / 2

  • @chilli-soup
    @chilli-soup 9 місяців тому

    This Australian version has given me a headache.

    • @farishanafiah8461
      @farishanafiah8461 3 місяці тому

      Probably because you can't understand their accent.

  • @TopGearrules
    @TopGearrules 12 років тому

    Actually it should be HORSE POWER not KILOWATTS!!

  • @Johnmith626
    @Johnmith626 12 років тому

    Wow why is the Jag so expensive there? In Msia the roadtax is ridiculous if we follow the engine capacity but its only RM500k for a 2 yr old model which is approx 150k aud hmm .As for me the Grange looks like shit id go for a V8 commodore or GTS or even the SV6 .Australia is not good with luxury cars.However having said that i miss the SV6 i rented couple of weeks back =)

  • @whoissarthak
    @whoissarthak 12 років тому +1

    Jag driver wearing a PANERAI. Nice.

  • @19pegleg75
    @19pegleg75 12 років тому

    let the lion roar

  • @ryanjones9785
    @ryanjones9785 11 років тому

    For me the jaguar xj is brilliant an awesome car

  • @MatthewN56736n4
    @MatthewN56736n4 12 років тому

    Please! I don't appreciate your swearing! It doesn't prove anything to me. The Jaguar is a very nice car for people who have great taste; something you don't have. I didn't pay enough attention to car what was said during the start of the video so I missed that. And for your information, if they were trying to figure out if it was worth the extra money obviously the Jaguar has more to offer so it is worth it. It is better in every aspect.

  • @nadroj3968
    @nadroj3968 8 років тому

    Mafia need these

  • @broke123
    @broke123 11 років тому

    a nose? that was 2+ car lengths

  • @tkboi009
    @tkboi009 12 років тому

    lol why are everyone so dumb. its not that hard to check up jaguar prices in AUD. just check it out. we over here are raped by a "luxury tax" its just a rip off..

  • @yutianfu7317
    @yutianfu7317 11 років тому

    In NZ, JAG XJ supersport cost 245000NZD lol

  • @pentium4guy639
    @pentium4guy639 10 років тому

    I want the grange in America

  • @HSVforme2010
    @HSVforme2010 12 років тому

    maybe you've never heard of this Australian car before is because you're in georgia....

  • @jaydenludkin996
    @jaydenludkin996 12 років тому

    Supaclubie would flog that jag it's decked out with a walkingshaw supercharger so that's a 6.2 litre v8 supercharged

  • @KCRskidder
    @KCRskidder 12 років тому

    unfortunately, the price is correct.