Marina mentioned that craft services is what they call catering on North American productions. I'm no expert, but I believe they are two separate things. Catering is responsible for full meals served at certain times of the day. Craft services is essentially a snack bar that operates throughout the day and offers candy, chips/crisps pastries, possibly pre-made sandwiches, coffee, tea, soft drinks and so forth. I've noticed that most modern movies give credits to both catering and craft services.
My auntie sometimes works as a Supporting Artist. She was on a set with David Tennant. He insisted that all the Supporting Artists ate first, because if they ran out of food the crew would go out and get something for him, whilst they wouldn't for them. I know he's getting a lot of bad press recently, but hopefully that balances things a little bit.
I was going to ask you what bad press but looked it up and he is right, she should shut up. As usual it's being blown out of proportion and that MP is only using it to further herself with her discrimination. That is clearly shown by who she supports.
I'm fairly sure that idiot is out of a job this morning too anyway. David Tennant is an amazing guy, I've loved him since I first saw him as a child on Dr Who, and he is by far the best Dr there has ever been (even more than the older ones). I've since watched him in plenty of other series and every single time, he is fantastic. And with his recent support for the LGBTQIA+, of which I am also a part of, my estimations of him have reached even higher peaks. This delusional MP who is trying to play every victim card available to her is clutching at straws at being rightfully called out for what she is. I wouldn't imagine this self-centred wretch would put anyone before her first either if she was in the same situation as Tennant.
@@dannyquinn9128 when some newspapers say bad things about someone doing the right thing, only a small number of people care. Doing the right thing is never wrong
I must correct Richard on calling a wireless mike “a Madonna type thing.” Kate Bush was the first performer to use a wireless headset microphone in concert for her 1979 Tour of Life. Her equipment was a repurposed commercial wireless mic, modified by her sound engineer using a bent coat hanger to position the mic on her head. Bush's live performance included a lot of dancing, and the wireless headset allowed her to move without the limitations of a handheld mic. It didn’t start to see mainstream use until around a decade later when Madonna used a professionally built one.
I've been crew for 25 years and catering is not as plush as they make it sound here most of the time, nor is it ever an hour and 15 minutes; 1 hour tops. It's better in commercials as there are more clients knocking about to impress and keep happy. American shoots do have better catering. UK drama shoots tend to have a choice of three things. Meat/fish/Vegie option and a salad bar. Not uncommon for a lesser choice to be put aside for Extras from a separate area, even just sandwiches, as generally crew have things to do, even in lunch breaks, so clogging up the crew queues with Extras is never useful. Not uncommon to push in front of them in the queue as a result. Anyone can queue jump if they need to with no upset caused as all are aware we have lots of very random things to do and each departments clock is running on different times. Some days when on location you may get on the callsheet "Food in hand" which will mean a 30 min lunch brought to you and you more or less work through it. This can be because of the impracticality of the location and nowhere to go to break or fighting for brief windows of correct light. It will mean an earlier finish though. In most cases the food is fine. Does the job. Never that spicy. Any good assistant getting teas and coffees during the day will pass the catering chalk board and get the DL on what's to come and tell their dept by 11am which is good for morale. I can tell when lunch is overdue, or who isn't having a good breakfast, as actors stomachs start rumbling and it picks up quite clearly on the radio mics...
When Richard said that everybody mixes during lunch, I thought that's him thinking it because he sees the crew. Low-level crew and the talent don't mix. Very few talent interact with the crew, and if a crew member tries to talk to the talent then it's frowned upon. I think you can judge famous people very well based on how they treat the crew. Or normal people on whether they say "Have a good day" or something like that to a cashier in a supermarket. Most people take the people who make less than them for granted, while a few exceptions show that they value their work. The exceptions are sometimes surprising. For example, Shaggy is a good one.
Id also like to add the standards of catering varies, iv had gourmet, to someone in productions mum doing her home cooking, which was fine by me, i like bangers and mash etc, but a lot of the younger crew have more modern tastes, yet the biggest blow to my soul is finding its a meat free day at 6 am when all you need is a sausage bacon and egg bap to go with your first cup of tea of the day, after a long drive from home to a field in the middle of nowhere
About the Wimbledon discussion. We had something similar over here in Sweden, where when I was growing up the Ice Hockey World Championships were huge when it was available for everyone. And then it went to cable, and now it is largely forgotten. Even hockey fans don't bother that much with it anymore.
The reason that companies will say not to use portaloo or portacabin for those that aren't theirs is because they could lose their trademark to "genericide" where generic use of a trademarked term is so widespread that the company is unable to protect their trademark rights. One of the more famous cases would be Asprin, which Bayer lost through generic use.
I was warned about how litigious Portakabin were, when I first started writing reports of handling for planning applications many years ago. Supposedly they had contacted local council authorities when they spotted their name being misappropriated on a similar product. So unless it's an actual Portakabin, you are forced to call them modular units. Naturally far fewer people in the general population have any idea what that is (compared to a Portakabin).
Dara isn't disagreeing with Josh. He's disagreeing with Richard. Richard suggested getting someone famous to record an intro. Dara is explaining why that wouldn't work.
I was an extra on a big film for two days (that flopped and almost killed a franchise, but switched to making series instead), and on the first day we broke for lunch, and I sat down with my food and two minutes later we were called back to set. I had two mouthfuls of ok curry, while the crew and supporting actors had nicer food, and got to eat all of theirs. It was a 15 hour day
Wow, whatever you do, don't tell us the film. That kind of information is highly top secret. It would be a disaster for all involved if that ever got out.
@@MrFuzzyGreen Yes because I'm sure the top-level execs in Hollywood have trained ninjas on hand to take out errant UA-camr commentors for revealing things - they must have a dossier on every single extra complete with full private investigator files that link every single one of them to every online account they have. They'll be able to check their files and see that LiveDonkeyDeadLion is actually Bryan Williams from Basingstoke
@@robovac3557 Well it'll be hard for you to not sound petulant in this scenario. LiveDonkeyDeadLion has done the right thing. One assumes that you are not in the industry then as reputation is incredibly important to us and it's about more than what you worked on but how you did it.
I've been eating set food for almost 40 years now. All of it in South Africa, sometimes I was the one booking it. Truth is, it very much depends on the production, the budget and the context. Can be as bad as a toasted sandwich at the side of a motorway, as good as wine and entrees if you're working on a French commercial in the Cape. You work long enough, across enough formats, and eras and you'll get every possible version. But you will never hear a better quote than from a sound man on a very low budget movie when the crew were winging about the bad food. "I don't want to eat a sausage for breakfast then weep when we watch the rushes." That went on the end of shoot t-shirt. BTW: having also done concert tours, it also depends... in this case very much on who is paying (lable toyr support or the band, etc.) and the scale of the gig. But onething that never fails, if it's Germany, breakfast is meat and cheese.
We went to see Ed byrne in dublin few weeks ago...and funny thing was he was his warm up acts.....warm up act lol he came on first did a bit then did the introduction to the warm up act, he did his own introduction off stage to
When i was a kid my school sold us to be extras in a movie for the day. They ran out of food when it was our time to eat. We stopped cooperating and following instructions. Strangely none of our scenes made the final cut.
Full agree about cricket / ECB. Channel 4 had the 2005 ashes. The exposure ensure massive coverage and bus top tour of London and visit to 10 Downing Street. Cricket’s live audience are crashing partly because for the last 20 years cricket hasn’t been on free to view. Now most county cricket streamed on UA-cam with the BBC radio commentary maybe they are finally trying to expand the audience??
The London Studios had the best catering in my opinion. Those studios on the South Bank had the Studio Cafe which was just excellent. Far better than the catering at BBC Television Centre. Sadly The London Studios was closed down by ITV in 2018 and the new Television Centre doesn't have it's own catering, but you have to use the over priced cafes and restaurants now there, where 5 other TV studios used to be.
My sympathy for Producers sitting in post getting tea, coffee, croissants and biscuits and fruit *all* day long is pretty damn slim. I've been the runner delivering it, I've become an HoD receiving it. It's not hard work FFS Richard.
The lady who lives above me has a son in craft services and when I talked to him the last job he did was a season of a series and he said his job was he was responsible for a few people and he was their runner basically…. he had orders for each meal and whatever in between the previous day and then he basically collected and delivered the meals or snacks in time for their break and rinse repeat
I will always defend the Italian Job "remake" because, for me, it's a great film that was incorrectly marketed as a remake when it's almost a completely different story. I'd much rather watch a film like that, which is inspired by/referencing an iconic film, than watch someone do a rubbish Michael Caine impression.
In "The Founders" book about the starting of PayPal, the point was made that Musk was itching to call something "X" 2 decades ago. His partners resisted for reasons similar to Richard's point. He had to wait till there was no one to overrule his decision which is never a good sign.
On the comedian introductions, the mystery remaining to me is why most comedians introduce themselves *in the third person*.... It's not like we don't recognise the voice.
When West Side Story was in the cinemas, I overheard a young boy furiously moaning to his parents that they had took him to see it. The parents were laughing at his histrionics, while he shook his head. saying: "I can't believe you made me watch that. You said that he always made good films. I'll never trust you again." It was funny, though.
Marina, as a Cricket nut, thank you for advocating for at least The Ashes being on free to air. Paywall sport does nothing to actually draw people in and creates the problem of smaller crowds at the actual events. Why? If people don't know they're on, they're not going to go to it, and why would any channel advertise for something that is going to cost them viewers? The audience is there and is thirsty for the product, but by making it exclusive, the powers that be are cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.
I liked the Italian Job remake, it was fun. The original is a classic obviously but I just consider them as totally different and don’t compare them. I'm with Marina on West Side Story though! Didn’t TOTP have a long waiting list?
"Airplane!" has got to be the best remake! The original (which itself is a remake) is a decent, straight-played drama. The remake - one of the funniest American comedies made, and one of Zucker-Abrahams-Zucker's best. A purist might not consider it a remake though...
Trademark holders have to defend their trademark. If it starts to be used generically, they can lose the trademark because it is no longer associated in the public consciousness with their product but with the general category. Wikipedia has a long list of trademarks that have been cancelled because they became generic. I don't think they can actually stop people using it generically, though. If you are selling portable toilets and call them Portaloos, that's obviously against the law, but if you are just talking about them I don't know that there is any legal recourse. They just send strongly worded letters that sound threatening without actually threatening any real consequences.
so Richard since you drop Stephen Spielberg's name like you're besties- I noticed you first started name dropping his name during book tours, claiming he bought the rights and implying he was directing, then it turned out Columbus was going to direct the movie, now it turns out it's not a movie just going to be just another Netflix series. Have you ever even met Spielberg, been at his beach house, etc?
Screaming at the screen! Sorry, casino royal was a spoof of bond not a bond film bit like Austin powers Remake of Italian job was sacralidge but if you take away the title it’s an ok film
Why do they both sit facing the back of the studio for most of the podcast? Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell seem to be able to face the front while chatting to each other
Wimbledon and BBC... in 2018 AELTC brought the broadcasting control in-house ie away from BBC. So now AELTC control the feed with their own production and camera crew
On the Thursday and Friday of the US Masters, the Augusta National Golf Club does not permit rolling live TV coverage of the first few hours of play - i.e. the style in which golf is usually covered on TV. That's why you have talking heads doing predictions and analysis for a few hours, with the occasional shot shown, and then the "normal" coverage starts a bit later, around 7pm or 8pm UK time and runs through to the end of play. Sky also often have a particularly hole on the red button or following one chosen group during this blackout period (which is presumably specially negotiated?
I worked in children’s drama here and year on year budgets got cut and the first place money was saved was in catering which got worse year on year as a result
You get what you pay for and it isn’t the caterers fault but it does become an issue. Since children’s drama is virtually dead now in the UK I would guess the bar is as low as it can go
I would call the Brosnan/ Russo version a redo as opposed to a remake. I adore the P/R version for its style and sophistication. But what I really like about the film is the supporting cast. Everybody is important, from the thieves (Russo with the quiet thief is brilliant) to Dennis Leary who was a great balance for Russo.
@@KristineMaitland The Russo Brosnan version is a decent film but should have been called something else. I love Russo and wish she was in more movies as she can really act and is very likable as is Pierce.
With regard to the Olympics being part of the "crown jewels" list...no other broadcaster would want them. They would take up far too much airtime for far too long and on the whole have very minor appeal ( sorry Archery, skeet shooting etc )and thus not be attractive to advertisers ....all factors that the BBC doesn't care about. If the BBC loses its licence fee funding model and has to go commercial they will no longer be able nor interested in paying the huge sums that they now do to show the Olympics. I also suspect that Wimbledon would be uneconomic also ....blocking out your channel for 12 hours days ...I doubt even Sky would be interested. Sky would probably not want the Olympics either I think... they couldn't make it pay. It's not just the fees that the Olympic Committee charge for broadcasting rights but the huge army of staff , pundits and broadcasters that you have to dedicate to the task sometimes months ahead of the event ...always in a foreign country and always at premium prices.
In the 80s it was very traditional British (and fine for all that) and what slowed you down was the apple crumble with custard, cream and ice cream. Breakfast fried eggs always cooked to order and generally ‘Banjo’. At the same time in France we would sit down at a table with wine. No wine - walkout. The director most notorious for not wanting the crew to take a proper lunch break (maybe cheese on a biscuit was…Ken Loach.
*The egg banjo* is a sandwich made by putting *a runny fried egg* between two thick slices of bread… a popular British military snack. To many civilians, it is basically a simple fried egg sandwich. Within the military, it is widely known as an egg banjo because when it is eaten, egg yolk usually squirts onto the eater's shirt/jacket, typically resulting in the person raising their sandwich out of the way to approximately ear height while they attempt to strum the yolk mess from their shirt with their free hand. Resulting in the appearance of someone playing an air banjo.
ECB couldn't give two F#cks about that game. It is all about the bottom line for people in the ECB. They ran the Game into the ground, and the domestic teams suffered. To Richards's point. BTCC is shown on free-air TV on ITV 4 for 6 -7 hours.
I have stopped watching wimbledon as I'm sick of watching a big match i might have to pause the match so on delay and then they move it from BBC1 to BBC2 for the news.
Eeek! Edit suits? Recording studios? Are you the *ugger who drops crumbs in my faders?? And then there are those pesky stomach burbles that come over the mic. Always during the best take. Eons ago, I was recording an audio-only interview with a certain famous author. I was doing the normal thing of getting levels etc while she and the interviewer were chatting in the voice booth. But there was this odd clicking on the mic. I checked the cables, I checked the sound desk, then I checked the mic itself (discretely so that I didn't cause a scene), then returned to the control room, sat down next the producer, and said there was nothing I could do about it. We would have to live with it. "Why?" asked the producer angrily. "Well, if you want to tell Dame Barbara Cartland that her false teeth are clicking, help yourself. I'm not going to." There was a short pause. "We'll live with it." (Note, this was in the days of tape when we didn't have spectral digital editing systems where I could have solved it in seconds.)
How long do you reckon the faux fumbled intro thing is going to be cute ? By all means, do the Marina-says-questions-edition-and-Richard-says-questions-and-answers-edition shtick ... But please just leave it at that and spare us the faux handwringing after ... "oh, I'll get it right next time", "oh, I keep doing the intro bad" ... Give me a break I've had enough, it's been going on for months.
My name is amusing to some. I have the same surname as a movie character, as my idiotic dad changed his name before i was born. Its not amusing to me because it causes problems, but its a conversation starter.
You're kidding? Your Dad changed his name to that because of the Steve Martin film? I mean it's a decent enough film it's from but a niche reference. Ha. Gods you would spend a lot of time spelling out to people
As usual you don't know what you're talking about Marina Jekyll. I am a union actress and it is extremely unlikely a "writer" would be on set. By SAG rules, hot meals are required to be served are an hour long, not half an hour as you claim, and served OFF SET so your ridiculous story about Anderson serving soup all day on set is wrong like everything you state. Also even union extras usually get a better meal than non union extras.
Are you in the UK or USA? I know people in film and TV. They often get very short lunch breaks and sometimes no formal lunch hour so they can finish an hour early.
@@vdudya In US. SAG rules they have to feed you every six hours and it has to be a hot meal and off off the set and they get fined heavily every 15 minutes that goes over. Marina does not now what she is taking about as usual. There is no way Anderson could have gotten away with soup on the set.
@@vdudya doesn't matter where they film, all SAG actors have to work under SAG set rules. Maybe you could stop pretending you know stuff you have no clue about Marina.
I used to have neutral opinions about Elon Musk. Then he started to post online about people who didn't have any use for his mini sub for a rescue operation. He showed the world the truth about who he is and what type of personality he has. My negative view of him is based solely on the things he says and does.
@@simonmeadows7961do not forget hypocrite and Nazi Supporter, like activly allowing under the mantel of free Speech holocaust deniers (thatˋs a federal crime in germany btw.) on the plattform by rewoking their ban but throws others of for advocating basic human rights etc.
Drinking game - take a shot every time Richard says 'by and large'
That way lies a liver transplant.
Reminds me of that Emo Phillips joke.
Take a shot every time he mentions Stephen Spielberg- you'll be drunk in 15 minutes.
...Other drinking games are available.
Thanks for ruining this episode for me 😅
Marina mentioned that craft services is what they call catering on North American productions. I'm no expert, but I believe they are two separate things. Catering is responsible for full meals served at certain times of the day. Craft services is essentially a snack bar that operates throughout the day and offers candy, chips/crisps pastries, possibly pre-made sandwiches, coffee, tea, soft drinks and so forth. I've noticed that most modern movies give credits to both catering and craft services.
My auntie sometimes works as a Supporting Artist.
She was on a set with David Tennant. He insisted that all the Supporting Artists ate first, because if they ran out of food the crew would go out and get something for him, whilst they wouldn't for them.
I know he's getting a lot of bad press recently, but hopefully that balances things a little bit.
I was going to ask you what bad press but looked it up and he is right, she should shut up. As usual it's being blown out of proportion and that MP is only using it to further herself with her discrimination. That is clearly shown by who she supports.
I'm fairly sure that idiot is out of a job this morning too anyway. David Tennant is an amazing guy, I've loved him since I first saw him as a child on Dr Who, and he is by far the best Dr there has ever been (even more than the older ones). I've since watched him in plenty of other series and every single time, he is fantastic. And with his recent support for the LGBTQIA+, of which I am also a part of, my estimations of him have reached even higher peaks.
This delusional MP who is trying to play every victim card available to her is clutching at straws at being rightfully called out for what she is. I wouldn't imagine this self-centred wretch would put anyone before her first either if she was in the same situation as Tennant.
@@dannyquinn9128 he’s not getting bad press, he’s getting great press for being an ally and all round great example of a human being
@@LiveDonkeyDeadLion I wish that were true, but unfortunately it depends on which publication you read.
@@dannyquinn9128 when some newspapers say bad things about someone doing the right thing, only a small number of people care. Doing the right thing is never wrong
The Thing. Gold standard of remakes. Not only surpasses the original (which was also very good), but is a classic in its own right.
Dara answered why comedians have customised live introductions, Josh answered why comedians do their OWN introductions.
A..G..AGR..AGRO..AGRO!!
I must correct Richard on calling a wireless mike “a Madonna type thing.”
Kate Bush was the first performer to use a wireless headset microphone in concert for her 1979 Tour of Life. Her equipment was a repurposed commercial wireless mic, modified by her sound engineer using a bent coat hanger to position the mic on her head. Bush's live performance included a lot of dancing, and the wireless headset allowed her to move without the limitations of a handheld mic. It didn’t start to see mainstream use until around a decade later when Madonna used a professionally built one.
@@waynepalmer1709 good info.
They are colloquially Madonna mics but the term jawline mic is creeping in and I rather prefer that.
I've been crew for 25 years and catering is not as plush as they make it sound here most of the time, nor is it ever an hour and 15 minutes; 1 hour tops. It's better in commercials as there are more clients knocking about to impress and keep happy. American shoots do have better catering. UK drama shoots tend to have a choice of three things. Meat/fish/Vegie option and a salad bar. Not uncommon for a lesser choice to be put aside for Extras from a separate area, even just sandwiches, as generally crew have things to do, even in lunch breaks, so clogging up the crew queues with Extras is never useful. Not uncommon to push in front of them in the queue as a result. Anyone can queue jump if they need to with no upset caused as all are aware we have lots of very random things to do and each departments clock is running on different times.
Some days when on location you may get on the callsheet "Food in hand" which will mean a 30 min lunch brought to you and you more or less work through it. This can be because of the impracticality of the location and nowhere to go to break or fighting for brief windows of correct light. It will mean an earlier finish though.
In most cases the food is fine. Does the job. Never that spicy. Any good assistant getting teas and coffees during the day will pass the catering chalk board and get the DL on what's to come and tell their dept by 11am which is good for morale.
I can tell when lunch is overdue, or who isn't having a good breakfast, as actors stomachs start rumbling and it picks up quite clearly on the radio mics...
I'll also add that the food is worse in comedy as the budgets are lower
When Richard said that everybody mixes during lunch, I thought that's him thinking it because he sees the crew. Low-level crew and the talent don't mix. Very few talent interact with the crew, and if a crew member tries to talk to the talent then it's frowned upon. I think you can judge famous people very well based on how they treat the crew. Or normal people on whether they say "Have a good day" or something like that to a cashier in a supermarket. Most people take the people who make less than them for granted, while a few exceptions show that they value their work. The exceptions are sometimes surprising. For example, Shaggy is a good one.
Fascinating insight 👊
😂 rumbling tummies ... Loving it
Id also like to add the standards of catering varies, iv had gourmet, to someone in productions mum doing her home cooking, which was fine by me, i like bangers and mash etc, but a lot of the younger crew have more modern tastes, yet the biggest blow to my soul is finding its a meat free day at 6 am when all you need is a sausage bacon and egg bap to go with your first cup of tea of the day, after a long drive from home to a field in the middle of nowhere
I love how they always manage to say "See you next Tuesday" with a straight face.
Richard did debate the merits, or otherwise, of the phrase with Marina a while back but they stuck with it.
@@who_stole_my_username and it's simply never on a Tuesday or a Thursday anymore.
Glad I’m not the only one who laughs like a little boy every time
About the Wimbledon discussion.
We had something similar over here in Sweden, where when I was growing up the Ice Hockey World Championships were huge when it was available for everyone. And then it went to cable, and now it is largely forgotten.
Even hockey fans don't bother that much with it anymore.
Questions edition is sufficient. Answers are implied. I'm on the questions bandwagon!😂
Amen to Richard’s point about Twitter! X is not a thing.
Definitely. X sounds like Elon Musk has been taking marketing lessons from The Apprentice.
The reason that companies will say not to use portaloo or portacabin for those that aren't theirs is because they could lose their trademark to "genericide" where generic use of a trademarked term is so widespread that the company is unable to protect their trademark rights. One of the more famous cases would be Asprin, which Bayer lost through generic use.
I was warned about how litigious Portakabin were, when I first started writing reports of handling for planning applications many years ago. Supposedly they had contacted local council authorities when they spotted their name being misappropriated on a similar product.
So unless it's an actual Portakabin, you are forced to call them modular units. Naturally far fewer people in the general population have any idea what that is (compared to a Portakabin).
Marina: God I wish The Ashes were on terrestrial and not on Sky.
Also Marina: This episode is brought to you by Sky.
😂
Dara isn't disagreeing with Josh. He's disagreeing with Richard. Richard suggested getting someone famous to record an intro. Dara is explaining why that wouldn't work.
Good lord that first transition noise scared the bejesus out of me 😅😅
I was an extra on a big film for two days (that flopped and almost killed a franchise, but switched to making series instead), and on the first day we broke for lunch, and I sat down with my food and two minutes later we were called back to set. I had two mouthfuls of ok curry, while the crew and supporting actors had nicer food, and got to eat all of theirs. It was a 15 hour day
Wow, whatever you do, don't tell us the film. That kind of information is highly top secret. It would be a disaster for all involved if that ever got out.
@@robovac3557 There is an important rule in this business. You can slag something/someone off or you can name them but never both. Stay classy.
@@MrFuzzyGreen That doesn't apply in this scenario.
@@MrFuzzyGreen Yes because I'm sure the top-level execs in Hollywood have trained ninjas on hand to take out errant UA-camr commentors for revealing things - they must have a dossier on every single extra complete with full private investigator files that link every single one of them to every online account they have. They'll be able to check their files and see that LiveDonkeyDeadLion is actually Bryan Williams from Basingstoke
@@robovac3557 Well it'll be hard for you to not sound petulant in this scenario. LiveDonkeyDeadLion has done the right thing. One assumes that you are not in the industry then as reputation is incredibly important to us and it's about more than what you worked on but how you did it.
Question......How is the amount of money offered to contests on TV shows like the Chase decided?
This podcast could be called 'By and Large'😂
Or: See you next Tuesday
I've been eating set food for almost 40 years now. All of it in South Africa, sometimes I was the one booking it. Truth is, it very much depends on the production, the budget and the context. Can be as bad as a toasted sandwich at the side of a motorway, as good as wine and entrees if you're working on a French commercial in the Cape. You work long enough, across enough formats, and eras and you'll get every possible version. But you will never hear a better quote than from a sound man on a very low budget movie when the crew were winging about the bad food. "I don't want to eat a sausage for breakfast then weep when we watch the rushes." That went on the end of shoot t-shirt. BTW: having also done concert tours, it also depends... in this case very much on who is paying (lable toyr support or the band, etc.) and the scale of the gig. But onething that never fails, if it's Germany, breakfast is meat and cheese.
Marina has got UA-cam top three’s totally mastered. She’s even doing Honourable Mentions now!
We went to see Ed byrne in dublin few weeks ago...and funny thing was he was his warm up acts.....warm up act lol he came on first did a bit then did the introduction to the warm up act, he did his own introduction off stage to
Just writing this to prove I was here at the start of the start of the Josh and Dara Drama. Or maybe the Widdicombe and O'Briain Scene?
No one cares
@@jsquire5pa They will if this is the start of the Stand Up wars.
When i was a kid my school sold us to be extras in a movie for the day.
They ran out of food when it was our time to eat.
We stopped cooperating and following instructions.
Strangely none of our scenes made the final cut.
O Brien's answering a different question.
I would rather not have Marina's top three picks in reverse order. It's more fun to hear her talk about the one she's most excited about first.
Never get the intro right Marina, that’s what we’re here for. Love the show.
yes do show us what you failed at while at Oxford you entitled nepo you.
The Brittish Grand Prix also has to be shown on free to air TV like Wimbledon.
Full agree about cricket / ECB. Channel 4 had the 2005 ashes. The exposure ensure massive coverage and bus top tour of London and visit to 10 Downing Street. Cricket’s live audience are crashing partly because for the last 20 years cricket hasn’t been on free to view. Now most county cricket streamed on UA-cam with the BBC radio commentary maybe they are finally trying to expand the audience??
Marina cleverly swerving all modern remakes in her top 3.
The London Studios had the best catering in my opinion. Those studios on the South Bank had the Studio Cafe which was just excellent. Far better than the catering at BBC Television Centre. Sadly The London Studios was closed down by ITV in 2018 and the new Television Centre doesn't have it's own catering, but you have to use the over priced cafes and restaurants now there, where 5 other TV studios used to be.
Lol, I'm a journalist and I refer to 'X (formerly Twitter)' in my copy purely because I think it might annoy Musk if he ever sees it.
My sympathy for Producers sitting in post getting tea, coffee, croissants and biscuits and fruit *all* day long is pretty damn slim. I've been the runner delivering it, I've become an HoD receiving it. It's not hard work FFS Richard.
The lady who lives above me has a son in craft services and when I talked to him the last job he did was a season of a series and he said his job was he was responsible for a few people and he was their runner basically…. he had orders for each meal and whatever in between the previous day and then he basically collected and delivered the meals or snacks in time for their break and rinse repeat
That's a Port-a-loo Massacre.
I will always defend the Italian Job "remake" because, for me, it's a great film that was incorrectly marketed as a remake when it's almost a completely different story. I'd much rather watch a film like that, which is inspired by/referencing an iconic film, than watch someone do a rubbish Michael Caine impression.
No room for Gone in 60 Seconds? It might not be high art, but the original is truly a hard watch.
The "x formerly known as" I see as a rude gesture to Musk which I think is funny.
In "The Founders" book about the starting of PayPal, the point was made that Musk was itching to call something "X" 2 decades ago. His partners resisted for reasons similar to Richard's point. He had to wait till there was no one to overrule his decision which is never a good sign.
Can’t wait for the Marina / Spielberg episode.
LOVE you two.
Kids play the game that is on TV that month. Free-to-air is the best advert for the game.
Catering on set, the worst thing ever is a "Rolling lunch"
On the comedian introductions, the mystery remaining to me is why most comedians introduce themselves *in the third person*.... It's not like we don't recognise the voice.
Josh has to introduce himself because he's got another man's name tattooed on his foot.
Why have you Stop categorising the sections on the video timeline
When West Side Story was in the cinemas, I overheard a young boy furiously moaning to his parents that they had took him to see it. The parents were laughing at his histrionics, while he shook his head. saying: "I can't believe you made me watch that. You said that he always made good films. I'll never trust you again." It was funny, though.
Marina, as a Cricket nut, thank you for advocating for at least The Ashes being on free to air. Paywall sport does nothing to actually draw people in and creates the problem of smaller crowds at the actual events. Why? If people don't know they're on, they're not going to go to it, and why would any channel advertise for something that is going to cost them viewers?
The audience is there and is thirsty for the product, but by making it exclusive, the powers that be are cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.
I liked the Italian Job remake, it was fun. The original is a classic obviously but I just consider them as totally different and don’t compare them. I'm with Marina on West Side Story though! Didn’t TOTP have a long waiting list?
"Airplane!" has got to be the best remake! The original (which itself is a remake) is a decent, straight-played drama. The remake - one of the funniest American comedies made, and one of Zucker-Abrahams-Zucker's best. A purist might not consider it a remake though...
Do they have an Oscar for Catering?
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The best movie remake is the The Thing (John Carpenter's version). There is no room for discussion.
Worst remake - Psycho with Vince Vaughn.
It's not hard for the The Thing to be better than the original. The alien was a giant carrot!
Trademark holders have to defend their trademark. If it starts to be used generically, they can lose the trademark because it is no longer associated in the public consciousness with their product but with the general category. Wikipedia has a long list of trademarks that have been cancelled because they became generic.
I don't think they can actually stop people using it generically, though. If you are selling portable toilets and call them Portaloos, that's obviously against the law, but if you are just talking about them I don't know that there is any legal recourse. They just send strongly worded letters that sound threatening without actually threatening any real consequences.
Good for Portaloo, they don't take any shit. YOU'RE WELCOME!
Tell us about how they produce the Tour De France, and why Sir Mark Cavendish has not had a proper documentary made about him on terrestrial TV.
Not sure how I feel about a podcast that discusses, reviews and critiques the media being sponsored by Sky. Certainly not ideal
When GAA moved a lot of their games from RTÉ to Sky, it caused a massive furore in Ireland.
That was ok in comparison to GAA go as a lot of people had access to sky sports or now tv that they subscribed for something else 😮
so Richard since you drop Stephen Spielberg's name like you're besties- I noticed you first started name dropping his name during book tours, claiming he bought the rights and implying he was directing, then it turned out Columbus was going to direct the movie, now it turns out it's not a movie just going to be just another Netflix series. Have you ever even met Spielberg, been at his beach house, etc?
Talking about brand names, I recommend everyone watch the "Don't say Velcro" video that, while very entertaining, completely fails at its mission.
school portacabin = Prefab
Screaming at the screen! Sorry, casino royal was a spoof of bond not a bond film bit like Austin powers
Remake of Italian job was sacralidge but if you take away the title it’s an ok film
Why do they both sit facing the back of the studio for most of the podcast? Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell seem to be able to face the front while chatting to each other
Wimbledon and BBC... in 2018 AELTC brought the broadcasting control in-house ie away from BBC. So now AELTC control the feed with their own production and camera crew
What was that about the US Masters and the first 6 holes etc?
On the Thursday and Friday of the US Masters, the Augusta National Golf Club does not permit rolling live TV coverage of the first few hours of play - i.e. the style in which golf is usually covered on TV. That's why you have talking heads doing predictions and analysis for a few hours, with the occasional shot shown, and then the "normal" coverage starts a bit later, around 7pm or 8pm UK time and runs through to the end of play.
Sky also often have a particularly hole on the red button or following one chosen group during this blackout period (which is presumably specially negotiated?
I worked in children’s drama here and year on year budgets got cut and the first place money was saved was in catering which got worse year on year as a result
How bad is it now?
You get what you pay for and it isn’t the caterers fault but it does become an issue. Since children’s drama is virtually dead now in the UK I would guess the bar is as low as it can go
@@jonathanwolfman656 So how low can it go then and also what the industry in the UK like now?
20:35 how many times did they remake spiderman?
In movies it's twice so far.
Why is is called craft services
No "Ocean's 11" in the remakes?
The thing . Invasion of body snatchers. The Fly
Little Shop of Horrors
Ben-Hur - the 1959 film with Charlton Heston is the third adaption.
Richard lose the beard, from the side view, all I'm seeing is Rolf Harris.😵
the catering budgets on some big movies are sickening.They could feed a small town!
Gotta shout out the wonderful Pierce Brosnan / Rene Russo remake of The Thomas Crown Affair. Superb film, and the Sinnerman scene is downright iconic.
Middling remake and a completely different story than the excellent original starring Steve McQueen and Faye Dunaway.
I would call the Brosnan/ Russo version a redo as opposed to a remake.
I adore the P/R version for its style and sophistication.
But what I really like about the film is the supporting cast. Everybody is important, from
the thieves (Russo with the quiet thief is brilliant) to Dennis Leary who was a great balance for Russo.
@@KristineMaitland The Russo Brosnan version is a decent film but should have been called something else. I love Russo and wish she was in more movies as she can really act and is very likable as is Pierce.
the "X/twitter"controversy: why not always call it "X™" , (especially in print) ? that should annoy everybody.
With regard to the Olympics being part of the "crown jewels" list...no other broadcaster would want them. They would take up far too much airtime for far too long and on the whole have very minor appeal ( sorry Archery, skeet shooting etc )and thus not be attractive to advertisers ....all factors that the BBC doesn't care about. If the BBC loses its licence fee funding model and has to go commercial they will no longer be able nor interested in paying the huge sums that they now do to show the Olympics. I also suspect that Wimbledon would be uneconomic also ....blocking out your channel for 12 hours days ...I doubt even Sky would be interested. Sky would probably not want the Olympics either I think... they couldn't make it pay. It's not just the fees that the Olympic Committee charge for broadcasting rights but the huge army of staff , pundits and broadcasters that you have to dedicate to the task sometimes months ahead of the event ...always in a foreign country and always at premium prices.
In the 80s it was very traditional British (and fine for all that) and what slowed you down was the apple crumble with custard, cream and ice cream. Breakfast fried eggs always cooked to order and generally ‘Banjo’. At the same time in France we would sit down at a table with wine. No wine - walkout. The director most notorious for not wanting the crew to take a proper lunch break (maybe cheese on a biscuit was…Ken Loach.
*The egg banjo* is a sandwich made by putting *a runny fried egg* between two thick slices of bread… a popular British military snack.
To many civilians, it is basically a simple fried egg sandwich.
Within the military, it is widely known as an egg banjo because when it is eaten, egg yolk usually squirts onto the eater's shirt/jacket, typically resulting in the person raising their sandwich out of the way to approximately ear height while they attempt to strum the yolk mess from their shirt with their free hand.
Resulting in the appearance of someone playing an air banjo.
@@lakrids-pibe correct but it also works in a ‘bap’ and is far from confined to the military
ECB couldn't give two F#cks about that game. It is all about the bottom line for people in the ECB. They ran the Game into the ground, and the domestic teams suffered.
To Richards's point. BTCC is shown on free-air TV on ITV 4 for 6 -7 hours.
Richard, do you realise how often in all these videos you say by enlarge!
I have stopped watching wimbledon as I'm sick of watching a big match i might have to pause the match so on delay and then they move it from BBC1 to BBC2 for the news.
It's still called the twittarse to me!
Eeek! Edit suits? Recording studios? Are you the *ugger who drops crumbs in my faders?? And then there are those pesky stomach burbles that come over the mic. Always during the best take.
Eons ago, I was recording an audio-only interview with a certain famous author. I was doing the normal thing of getting levels etc while she and the interviewer were chatting in the voice booth. But there was this odd clicking on the mic. I checked the cables, I checked the sound desk, then I checked the mic itself (discretely so that I didn't cause a scene), then returned to the control room, sat down next the producer, and said there was nothing I could do about it. We would have to live with it.
"Why?" asked the producer angrily.
"Well, if you want to tell Dame Barbara Cartland that her false teeth are clicking, help yourself. I'm not going to."
There was a short pause. "We'll live with it."
(Note, this was in the days of tape when we didn't have spectral digital editing systems where I could have solved it in seconds.)
Twitter pre Elon, Twatter post Elon. 😁
Twitter = Tweet
X = ?
the thing could be best and worst (there was a pretty crap one in the 2010s)
How long do you reckon the faux fumbled intro thing is going to be cute ? By all means, do the Marina-says-questions-edition-and-Richard-says-questions-and-answers-edition shtick ... But please just leave it at that and spare us the faux handwringing after ... "oh, I'll get it right next time", "oh, I keep doing the intro bad" ... Give me a break I've had enough, it's been going on for months.
Jesus christ john carpenters the thing
The word you are searching for chaps is ‘generic’.
My name is amusing to some. I have the same surname as a movie character, as my idiotic dad changed his name before i was born. Its not amusing to me because it causes problems, but its a conversation starter.
You're kidding? Your Dad changed his name to that because of the Steve Martin film? I mean it's a decent enough film it's from but a niche reference. Ha. Gods you would spend a lot of time spelling out to people
@@MrFuzzyGreen yep, i so wish I was kidding
Greetings Pop pickers. Can I ask "what is your top 3 Spielberg Movies"? Not Arf!
"X (formerly known as Twitter)": anybody know if they say this in the US too? I watch a few US UA-cam channels but I've never noticed.
That people don't feel comfortable calling it X simply means that it was a boneheaded branding choice. It's an idiot name for a platform, full stop.
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Yeah definitely set to all
@@MrFuzzyGreen yep it's set to all
As usual you don't know what you're talking about Marina Jekyll. I am a union actress and it is extremely unlikely a "writer" would be on set. By SAG rules, hot meals are required to be served are an hour long, not half an hour as you claim, and served OFF SET so your ridiculous story about Anderson serving soup all day on set is wrong like everything you state. Also even union extras usually get a better meal than non union extras.
Are you in the UK or USA?
I know people in film and TV. They often get very short lunch breaks and sometimes no formal lunch hour so they can finish an hour early.
@@vdudya In US. SAG rules they have to feed you every six hours and it has to be a hot meal and off off the set and they get fined heavily every 15 minutes that goes over. Marina does not now what she is taking about as usual. There is no way Anderson could have gotten away with soup on the set.
@@reneecollins600 maybe they weren't filming in America. There is a possibility that you're wrong about this. Maybe you don't need to be so angry 🤷
@@vdudya doesn't matter where they film, all SAG actors have to work under SAG set rules. Maybe you could stop pretending you know stuff you have no clue about Marina.
@@reneecollins600 not all people in the UK are in unions which is why so much is filmed here. Relax.
House Of Games .. always the same . 3 Celebs and A Token to make up the 4.
Good pod, but by crumbs, Marina is such a sneering leftie! Almost makes it unlistenable.
I don't love Marina.
What's Marina got against Elon Musk? He's a hero in my book.
I don't think you've read enough of your book. I invite you to find some UA-cam docs on him.
What's so heroic about an avaricious narcissist?
I used to have neutral opinions about Elon Musk.
Then he started to post online about people who didn't have any use for his mini sub for a rescue operation.
He showed the world the truth about who he is and what type of personality he has.
My negative view of him is based solely on the things he says and does.
@@simonmeadows7961do not forget hypocrite and Nazi Supporter, like activly allowing under the mantel of free Speech holocaust deniers (thatˋs a federal crime in germany btw.) on the plattform by rewoking their ban but throws others of for advocating basic human rights etc.
How about using a sort of portmanteau calling it TwitX ? Or if your young and like to abbreviate everything TwX (phonetically Tw-eX)