Pritam Singh gives further oral evidence at Committee of Privileges hearing on Dec 15
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- Workers' Party (WP) chief and Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh gave further oral evidence to the Committee of Privileges (COP) on Dec 15, as it looks into a complaint that former WP member of Parliament Raeesah Khan breached parliamentary privilege.
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RK lied. PS answered for it.
From these few days I learn that
PS is not a cruel heartless leader.
He did not punish,scold, disgrace ,blame, condemn RK.
I have always wondered who is Pritam Singh n how come this guy takes LTK's place, so now I know PS a little more.
He appears to be reasonable,strong, steady,fearless n wise .
This kind of opposition leader is what Singapore needs.
He is strong but not intimidating or bully.
He's way stronger and eminent in regards to the political scene in Singapore. Not to forget his high EQ standards!
Anyone can ask questions but..
He asks rightfully, more importantly in the centre of what he thinks should be right for the people and the next generation.
He is a good leader and was once praised by the Prime Minister. I'm always glad to listen to his speeches in parliament. :)
Because she is a victim to the sexual assault. Why must schold her, is that heartless!!
@@zakifraij3346 Doesnt mean you are victim you can have your way to spread lies about others ok cos that will make others a victim ok.
His high EQ and empathy towards a sexual assault victim got him in trouble.
@@nsevv What happened to his Integrity as a Leader of Opposition Party ?
COP will call back someone they have interviewed for 9 hours instead of calling back the person who lied and they only interviewed for 2.5 hours
because new evidence came up relevant to PS and none came up relevant to RK. is that hard to undersyand
@@jaenice7376 None was relevant to RK? We had 3-4 people coming out that strongly disagreed with the "take it to the grave" narrrative and you don't think RK should be questioned again on that
But we should call PS back for another 30 min to question on "your call, you can't lie right?". Which was tthe same take (notice that PS had the same answers) as the previous 9 hours.
Did you even watch this video lol
jaenice are u educated? Can’t even discern simple facts
@@angnobel I was shock when she said new evidence got nothing to do with RK. Isn't the whole session about her?? She probably didn't even follow the whole COP
@@hilo4110 accidentally admitted that the proceeding now is to go after PS and WP. Nothing to do with lie anymore
Anyway, I just want to tell all the Singaporeans here, it was never easy to be an opposition and an opposition leader. What was the agenda that RK said the lie, who told her to lie? I mean politics is really dirty. Look at Chiam See Tong, opposition party, Potong Pasir never upgrade at all. All I can say, whatever it is, I’m still with worker party, I don’t want to see a good compassionate party to go down without a good fight!
Lesson here..
WP has a human touch and compassion with regards to subordinates making a wrong turn especially with personal trauma involved.
The other party has none.
So much human touch that he let a lie go on for 3 months. Not sure I want so much human touch in parliament
@@jaenice7376 3 months for a non malicious white lie is fine.
@@nsevv non malicious white lie?! bringing down the police's reputation is acceptable??
@@jerrileelee9044 i wouldnt call it a non malicious white lie per say, but by saying that this ruins the reputation of the police suggests that such stories of police mishandling SA cases NEVER occurs, which i think its safe to say its quite untrue with simple research. raeesah was at wrong but idt the police reputation can be simply ruined like that by one single young woman, nor do i think the anecdote described by her lie or no lie does not occur
The fact is there was nothing stopping the leaders from rectifying the lies in parliament immediately WITHOUT having to mention that Raeesah was a victim of sexual assault. So this “reason” of allowing a lie to perpetuate for 3 months because she didn’t tell her parents isn’t valid to me. As much as Raeesah is at fault, the leaders should take responsibility for their poor leadership and accountability
Should not this inquiry be conducted by independent parties perhaps from the private sector. Isn't this a huge conflict to have an opposing political party do so? Are we to assume the committee sits on such high ground as to be completely 100% impartial ? Maybe they are.
That is why there is another opposition MP in the COP to ensure it stays objective. The fact that the person stays quiet throughout shows that he is convinced everything was professionally done.
Isn't it harder to determine the conflict of interest if the committee is from the private sector?
Good point. I wonder what’s the best practice in other democracies in such situations, to ensure fairness (neutrality) in selection of members to conduct inquiry. Anybody knowS?
i believe if its a problem , pritam singh, sylvia lim who are both lawyers would've raised hell over it , also the lawyers over at PAP side will make sure the COP would be impartial (i know i l know) or else the COP got no weight also
@@TheHunkyMuscles nobody knows and nobody gives a damn 😆
The session in video is a lot more civil today. Tan CJ made a very clear summary at the end - explaining the different possible interpretations and how that affects culpability etc. I understood it a lot more. Today, IMO, the session sounded like there was fair and respectful questioning and doesn’t sound so loaded like last Friday’s where PS appeared to be the accused on the basis that RK was speaking the truth. If ET is listening to negative pubic reactions over last Friday’s session - thank you for modifying your questioning demeanor. Hope valuable insights and lessons are learnt by WP too, in terms of members selection and coaching rookies.
Yea Pritam strong rebuttals really made Edwin behave this time round. Pritam didn't have to reprimand him this time round also.
@@nsevv agree that PS stood his ground bravely and yet politely last Fri eg the bit on interruptions :)
What was event the purpose of this round? The COP can't read the next sentence after "your call" which is "you can't lie right?". Questions were the same and answers were the same. PS already interviewed for 9+ hours.
Meanwhile, 3-4 testimonies coming out against RK narrative but no indication that there is going to be an reinterview with the scrutiny, hypothetical and assumptions that was given to PS and SL
@@angnobel I agree that this is really unnecessary. And a waste of public expenditure! Going through the same kind of questions again and again. At the same time, trying to pin it on the wrong people.
@@angnobel They let her take her time to own up to the lie because she claimed she was a victim of traumatic, sexual assault. It might have proven to be their mistake. It was done to give her the time to address the issue privately and then publicly. She is really bad news for the party. I am not sure the PAP leadership would have done the same thing. They either would have thrown her under the bus or pretend the lie did not happen just to save the reputation of the whole PAP party. PAP would have more to lose... How can you be sure it has not already happened or will happen to the incumbent leadership? Like the Michael Palmer incident? Dig, dig at WP ... then in the end PAP kena...
Take courage Mr Singh, its not easy in the den of snakes, but im sure there are many who love what you do for your country and constituency and they will support you no matter what.
Mr Singh could be the snake too. U don't put so much faith in him like millions of Cambodians put their faith on Pol Pot.
You are brain washed by pap media, they are given too much power to check and balance them. Good luck too you in your washed state
Mr Singh is actually the snake.
What he did was beyond comprehension. Where was he from 8 Aug to 4th Oct?
Any preparation to correct the lie?
Instead he said it was her call meaning she can continue lying or correct the lie.
And he won't judge her
Very poor leadership and now he has to prove that he was not an accomplice
If to compare ro another paprty, its not comprehensible how much have been lied, and have been done, but nobody to question and check and balance. If to remove all the rest parties n leave only 1, sgreans will vomit blood, but who cares when can invite chinese nationals and keep going on.
PS is abit of a cobra himself. Check him out during the first 15 mins of his first COP session.
Though being dragged through mud, Mr. Singh has transformed this inquiry (more appears like interrogation with a witch hunting atmosphere) into a parade of Worker’s Party leadership and their resilience. Them being humane and sensitive in handling RK case showed our nation there is an alternative to deal with people, with respect and space. Bravo Mr. Singh, a true warrior 👍
100% agree
👍👍
Empower the people ..!👍
This is what being blind looks like.
Very support, it shows that Mp Singh is down to earth and can hear peoples needs and voices. And the opposite side whilst sharing that there is a plan for east coast but does not state what kind of plan, is not it lying in a whole? Because there is no plan.
To be honest, this whole episode didn’t smear PS reputation but only presented PS to all borderline PAP supporter, in a favourable light, showing him to be calm, strong, compassionate leader!
Want the truth. Nothing more
Compassionate leader my ass
So by spreading lies it means will not smear your reputation ? So if your spouse or partner or children cheated and lied to you in the face you will cherish their reputation ? You are so sad and need to reach out for help.
If any wives lie and cheated the husband, as long the wife explained in a calm manner and passionate enough that she still love the children, then the husband has to continue to live with it and say he will still support her. Good luck to you that no one ever cheats on you. 😁😂🤔
@@raymondteoks7825 What if the husband cheats can the wife be a sucker like that ?
I wish the politicians can put in as much effort in Improving lives of people as this saga.
On the contrary, i would like them to leave all of us alone.... more than improving our lives seems that what they are doing is harming our lives....
Settle this lies first then can talk about other things.
It seems the person who did not tell the lie is grilled profusely instead of the actual person who lied. What the hack is this COP after?
Very clear they are after WP.
PAP has the right to question anyone because it a lie told against the SPF..
@@tanaesther9570 question Yes, not putting wrong assumptions and "forcing" the other party to accept & agree.
By the way, why did you say "PAP got the right to question anyone"? Mind you this is COP and not PAP COP!
@@yippengseng1633 of course I know what is it all about ……you can join them too…..😀
WP remaining leaders other than Fasial have spoken the truth and were coherent in answering all the questions put forth to them. The public could see what's all this about. Community of Public, I believe will want Khan to be punished, leave W.P. to get on instead of hurling W.P through more hurdles because of Khan's lie, which does not reflects the whole of W.P leadership. Community of Privileges need to sum this up soon as they are coming across as bullies now.
We all punish by covid liao. Now poke so much somemore sg so small no place to go. No interest leh.
@@tankman20064 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Faisal ah, there's a reason he in parliament don't talk, and he knows how to shut up, and he just sits there and gets more respected. This Raeesah, one year say two majorly wrong thing, now like this lor. Sometimes in Parliament don't talk is not a bad thing, cos all anyone needs you in opposition is to say no when we all want to say no to PAP.
@@MrBoliao98 that’s the reason why the rest of papaya sleep in parliament or maybe play hp game or whatapp text ….. they already have a guarantee 5 years super high salary and benefit ….. so best don’t talk haha
@@Alex-oo7fs you rather they sleep than say wrong thing.
Actually if I were PS, I wouldn't know what to do... if I report her lying, what would other members in wp think of me as a leader? If I don't report her, what would the public think of me? Quite hard
No I beg to differ. A good leader must be decisive and act according to his principles.
He is shirking from his responsibility and something is not right in the whole saga.
@@fiost1489 so actually he should have reported and apologised?
@@miuratohko1
The correct way is to report and apologise and move on.
The timeline of events are not in their favour.Too much absence and no preparatory work to correct the lie as leaders
@@fiost1489 think they r waiting for wp's apology which didn't come...they thought the natter would rest w her resignation
If he don't report her but let her make the decision and take ownership and responsibility, the public would think he is a leader with heart and have high EQ.
Look unlike the other parties... WP allow their MPs to make their own calls.
This shows that WP does not have puppets that echo the desires of a central figure...
Kudos to the WP for demonstrating this to the others at the COP.
Who tell lies, RK or PS? Why go after the one who did not tell lies🥺
One tell lies the other kept the lies until both got cornered same pattern.
@@bobafett5757 You must be very disappointed.
Both told lies. So disappointed with PS
@@walterng1114 no ps didnt
Cause one tell lie and one never corrected it in parliament as Opposition Leader who is also a MP. Under oath, MP must not lie in parliament. Since he never corrected it for months, he becomes an accomplice. So he is in deep heat now.
Why can’t RKhan take full responsibility for lying. Why is it someone else responsibility to tell her to come clean? She should have enough sense to own up to her own mistakes instead of blaming someone else for not forcing to own up to her mistakes?
PAP same same army mah. One person do. All knock it down. Show power !!!!!!!
So when is the COP going to summon
(Khan+Nathan+Loh)back?
Shouldn't Mdm Khan and her therapist be summon too?
To be impartial,this time round COP can refer to Mr Singh,Ms Sylvia,Mr Faisal version of truth and reframe it as hypothesis questions for Mdm Khan and Mr Nathan,Ms Loh.
Subject them to 9 hours of questioning.
Feels like this is it though.
Lol, Edwin is unusually well behaved today, all that word twisting and unclear questioning would have got him in hot soup and stern scolding from Pritam again.
Haha foolish comment.
Pritam even said "yes sir" to him.
He is in trouble
Yes he mellowed significantly after the first hearing with Pritham was publicised. Hahaha
@@fiost1489 when ET give him respect.. he return the same amount of respect.
@@fiost1489 When respect is given respect is earned.
This pritam needs to be PM... so much better than current candidates who think cotton comes from sheep and Singapore schools are lousy.
@HrH. He lied badly.
Not here but somewhere remote only you and him living then he can rule you everyday 🤣
@@bobafett5757 Better than being ruled by evil clowns who think cotton come from sheep and people who think Singapore have lousy school.
After watching the progress this few days, I am so done with the witch hunting. When is this going to end?
It's not witch hunting. Don't be an ignorant fool. Something is very wrong in the handling of this matter by WP.
Too many cover ups
PS never wanted to be put in this situation, knowing some answers didn't gain traction but still had to go on explaining. He became much mellow this time.
RE: HELP ! sorry guys side tracked abit. how to go johor now ? VTL lane is what ar?
@@kelvinythh4535 Johore Road can take Bugis MRT.
Wow, Mr. Singh shined ✨ in this round, calm and concise in his responses, presenting his high EQ, I’m simply impressed.
RK as a Singaporean you shouldnot make a racist remarks. As a Muslim you shouldnot implement any changes to the law of Islam. As a mp you shouldnot lie in parliament. And as a wp member you shouldnot drag the whole party for your own mistake. tf such a bad apple. very2 sus. Maybe she needs to seek professional help.
amogus references blue sus vote kick
Each MP is an individual, representative for himself. A party is just a accumulating of people with similar vision and will be beneficial when it comes to a policy vote. I can stand as an independent and still be an MP if elected. The seat of a MP has nothing to do with a Party. RK should be held responsible, not the party, PS doesn’t have to come for all these. It’s all one big propaganda stunt to tarnish the reputation of WP, this is my opinion.
Then appoint a Leader or Chief for what ? Leaders are paid more than other team mates so what is that extra pay is for ? You got work before in your life or not are you still a student ? You know what is job hierarchy responsibility or not ? If RK is only responsible for this then why did PS gave him advice and direction when she told him the lies in August and why didnt PS report to HR or Parliament about the lies ?
Pritam as a party leader did a great job managing many situations and circumstances taking into consideration of family situations, RK emotions, giving very clear instructions to his team. Good job.
What is this inquest trying to achieve?
Achieve by PAP go poking everyone nose lor. Now all our nose get poke liao. Even primary 1 children also get poke. ART what ? Song bo. Who interest in PAP blaming game ? I blame PAP for all my nose.
GOD knows🤣
Get the truth. PS didn't disclose fully and truthfully
@@fiost1489 Really?
I blame PAP for making me jab COVID vaccines and after I jabbed, now tell me Sinopharm must jab THREE times in primary regime (or no mall/jobs/hospital visit) & bluffing us that it's in line with the WHO when WHO did not say this!
Instead of flipping pages every now and then, why not digitalise it
Then who is paying for the Wifi ?
@@bobafett5757 there's probably WiFi in that room... All the interogators have laptops.... Or even without WiFi, e-ink devices / tablet w airplay?
@@da0kia What if screen frozen or system hacking happened ?
Probably partly tradition and partly to avoid any technical issues
@@freddy9646 No partly here and there cos it can lead to more disruption just stay traditional.
The RIGHT thing to do is to take ownership and study hard for your exams
So it's YOUR CALL... to decide this is the RIGHT thing to do or by not doing so, you will fail
So should he study hard ?
Absolutely, that's the RIGHT thing to do.
Is there any doubt why he should not study hard ?
Absolutely not, he would fail
It crazy to tell PS what should hv spoke RK, when it already became history. It an investigation not teaching lesson.
Cause they are questioning him why he don't use more direct words but instead use words that can be interpreted differently by different people. Remember the "I will not judge you"? This can mean a few meanings. Why don't you more direct sentence to ensure others understand with no error as this is an important matter. As a leader, he must be good at communication. The COP is investigating his intention.
@@jasonong5562 agree that communication must be clear. On the other hand, obviously lying is subject to Parliamentary rules and it’s beyond PS Ability to forgive or.waive punishment. Hence PS “I will not judge you” is to be read in context of his total conversation with her. I see the context also including his coaching relationship with her, watching her grow as MP, rather than how she is free of any consequences for lying.
@@jasonong5562 hindsight is sure 20-20 though. Throughout the session PS explained how he toned down words when he could have been more harsh resulting in " your call" etc etc esp given the scenario that RK is probably a blubbering mess each time they talked about these issues. If anything, he might just be trying / attempting to be a decent manager.
If anything, post the COP, PS will be so much more wary of uttering words and become a kindergarten teacher as ET seems to suggest...Clear, simple, scolding words and v reactive micromanagement Vs an adult, mature organisation relying on principles.
It's a pretty sad day for Singapore parliament and politics if that's the lesson that is being learnt here rather than perhaps for example... Lying has consequences?
@@jasonong5562 COP keep taking abstracts without the context. "I won't judge you" + "if you take ownership and responsibility". "your call" + "cannot lie right?"
Selectively Reading what they like
When people ask me what is kangaroo court, I show them this.
When people ask me what's a kangaroo I show them this comment
The COP wants to hear what they want to hear that's all.
COP did the right thing.
If this display of power and repeated badgering with 'evidence' from affidavits is supposed to expose their political rival and make him lose this post or worse, it failed utterly. I have a newfound respect for Pritam. I hope he gets to become PM on my lifetime. But first order of business is to get rid of the rodents in his party. Too many two-faced traitors in their midst.
Never expected PS was called up again to give evidence After so many witnesses had already given a statement and can't COP sum up the whole saga and let WP move on with their daily work.
Pritam was not truthful. Need to testify again. He is looking fearful
Did you even watch the video, he’s back because his statement and the new evidence contradict. And how to sum up the saga when PS don’t want to come clean and say the truth
PS statement so messed up even blind people can see the tricks.
@@bobafett5757 really? blind can see...haha....PS statement nothing wrong as he gave the context of the words he spoke
@@fiost1489 fearful?.......pap is picking on words used is like picking a bone in an egg....
*He was appointed to be a Chief or Leader of a Party and should know his job scope and blueprint of being and acting as a Leader to lead and motivate and nurture and discipline his team mates and now it seems alarming to know that he seems not specific in giving clear and to be mutually understood direction or instruction to his team mate who was under so much stress and also already broken the code of conduct and was obviously seeking help and guidance from a Leader who simply brushed it off with a sentence "your call to make" which universally defined as "its up to you to make a decision" so tell me now what exactly Leadership Quality and Ethics means to all the Leaders out there who have the responsibilty to reach out to their subordinates especially those under extreme pressure but unfortunately something greatly amiss here and rather bizarre*
“We think we listen, but very rarely do we listen with real understanding, true empathy. Yet listening, of this very special kind, is one of the most potent forces for change that I know.” Carl Rogers
Not when people of authority use " empathy " to hide their irresponsibility and due diligence.
It's an abuse.
In the saga, the time line of events showed too much absentism from the leaders
Lying is a great and serious sin, just like corruption, you can never get to the bottom of the truth and the root cause, and you do corrective action to the human culture of values, ethics, intregrety, (Which some race culture lacks severely due to their historical background and upbringing) if someone lies, worst still, often times, punishment is meted out to the innocent bystander...
This case is is straight forward, whoever lies, that person should own up and face the consequences... Others whoever they are, is of no consequence....
That's is why, you are supported and all with you is always with an unspoken caveat, that you had done well, done no wrong....Otherwise, you save your own skin...
well done PS - these pages flipping did not distract him at all.
How are people siding with pap i really dont understand
After receiving overwhelming backlash from netizens after the last hearing,Edwin seems to have come off his high horse and become more civil.
"This is your call". Is more a higher type of words very educate person speaks, for a layman term of speaking I think should mean make your own decision.
‘This is your call’ to me it means ‘take ownership and be responsible’.
he didnt treat RK like a pri sch kid by telling her to do this to do that and had also given her time to reflect and to eventually make the records straight by herself , that's why making the record straight has to come from RK personally. Never did he expected by telling her to take ownership and responsibility and that he won't judge her, gave her the wrong impression that it is okay to continue with the lie. It's really her call if she continued with it and had to bear whatever consequences that come along with it after that. PS didn't specifically tell her to continue the narrative if it was raised neither did he also specifically tell her to tell the truth if it was raised. He expected her to do the latter. But the decision lies with her. I dunno if it's fair to push all the blame to PS , I also dunno if it's fair to RK becos when she confessed to the leadership , she expected a specific guidance from them. However, Im glad things work out this way. At least we know RK isn't suitable to be a MP. Imagine a kid who owned up to the lie bcos his parents pressured him to and a kid who owned up to the lie out of his own accord.
Always forgetting the next line "I mean you can't lie right"
Exactly, this is the term, those wise and learned put across over the diplomatic or triad tables... for waging a war.. Isn't this clear enough for RK...
It’s your call…:”you tell the true and face the consequences, or keep lying and face the harder punishment” could it be the means
Why didn’t RK take permission from the WP leadership before she lied in the first place ? If only she had sought their permission to lie in the first place before actually lying , we would all have been spared this long drawn drama. They would have probably told her “no way” and the matter would have ended there and then. Unless there’s a million ways to interpret the words “no way” and RK was dumb enough not to understand the message.
The 3 leaders had at no time gave her instructions not to lie. Pritam to her it was her call and he wouldn't judge her. What do you make of these words?
COP should also investigate safeentry which was first told to track COVID and later corrected to include police investigation. Isn’t that a lie and later clarified ? 🤔
🤷♂️🤷♂️
The context is totally different. One is outright lie to bring down the police while the other is a further clarification that tracetogether is still under the cover of a general law that allows police to tap on it. One is with bad intention while the other is not.
@@jasonong5562 there were direct statement made that tt will ONLY be used for contact tracing. Not a clarification if your initial statement has no ambiguity. But I guess only 1 party can lie, sit on it, and release next parliament session
💯 Hip hip:Hooray well done,truly admirable(a warrior indeed)My cup runneth over:2*
Who else coming to the COP?
Miss Khan's father and husband??
Possibly husband.
Who’s going to pass judgement on this process ? Who’s going to decide who said what when and whether what they said was really what they meant and whether what they meant was really what they genuinely felt and what they genuinely felt was what should have been said and what should have been said was really in line with what ought to have been said and what ought to have been said was really what was said ?
Wait.. What?
I dun understand why COP hasn't called back RK to question her.
She had lots of time and opportunity to tell the "truth" that PS & the others told her to "take it to the grave" during the internal investigation.
It wasn't like they had leverage over her, they didn't threaten her or her family
Her career was already gone once she admitted to lying in parliament.
Why did she wait until the end of the internal investigation to tell about the senior leaders?
You telling me that PS asked her to hide the truth, then he forms an internal investigation, then he point-blank in her face asks " you shouldn't have lied".
RK couldn't have said "you told me to hide it so I hid the truth " any time.
ET makes it sound like she is a child needing guidance, to tell the truth.
She is 28 years old, a graduate, an elected MP and a mother of 2.
RK is a rookie MP and PS is the Leader who knew about the lies since 3 months ago and do you know that Leaders are paid more to look out for their team mates ?
@@bobafett5757 Rookie MP doesn't mean she isn't an adult in her late 20s.
I find it troubling that you think a 28-year-old graduate, elected MP needs guidance on being honest and responsible.
Your boss is throwing you under the bus and you do not speak up?
Not a single time did she says "you told me to do so "
She is an MP, speaking her mind is her biggest strength. Watch any of her Parliament videos. She wasn't even afraid to speak up against Muslim traditions.
The MP's job is mainly coming up with policies, debating to implement such policies, helping your people.
This whole issue is nothing related to that.
The main issue here is her lying and then doubling down on the lie. It's about being honest and responsible. Regardless of which job you are in these are important values.
@@mikebrown354 Then why didnt the Leader reported her case to HR since she broke serious code of conduct way back in August and as PS claimed she cried many times and so distraught in the meeting then why didnt reach out to SOS Hotline cos thats clear sign she needs counselling to stable her mindset ?
@@bobafett5757 Nice try answering my question with other questions.
Look back at my post, I am not talking about PS and what he did.
I am not saying what he did was right or wrong.
He clearly made poor choices.
I am talking about COP and their lack of interrogation with RK.
You have a question about PS and how he handled things start your own comment thread.
Edit: actually your questions have more-or-less been asked by COP (different words of course) ..And PS has given his reasons that he wanted RK to talk to her parents..
Whether you like the answer or not doesn't matter. The point is COP has already asked him.
But they haven't similarly interrogated RK.
@@mikebrown354 What credibilty and rights and empowerment do you have to judge and decipher the way COP conduct its interogation ? Show us how its too be done and lay out the protocols and legislative procedures if you have the means to be this critical about the handlings.
Waiting to know who would be next to be called in COP hearing 👍🏻
Probably final episode to all the series this one.. So.. the root cause and take away is.. 1. please use the direct words. 2. field a cleverer candidate not a dummy
What? a serial movie episode, so that it serve..........
WP leadership and moral is in question over this lying issue by WP member. WP needs to be held accountable for tarnishing the image and integrity of our Singapore Police Force. No amount of bombastic words and phrases by WP in this hearing cannot hide the fact all these resources have been wasted due to their 'purposely ignorance and lies and cover ups. Please answer to the residents especially from Sengkang and stop pushing here and there.
Fully agree this party has been using bombastic and pompous words to distract the real uncleared lying issues especially sitting on it for 3 months and my heart goes out to all Sengkang residents.
Actually the position of the WP is flimsy. I mean, PS knew of the lie since October. His arguments in regards Raeesah's parents, and the way he left it to Raeesah to come clean, are questionable. All that glitters is not gold. But that COP member from hell blew it. I wonder how the proceedings would have turned out if say, Indranee took to the field instead of that so Tong
I agree his actions about leaving it to RK is questionable. But the reason he gave is quite valid too. He might not want to be too strict on her because of the fact the she is victim of sexual assault, he probably put her mental health first. We will never know. I don't think Mr Singh will change his statement. So now we will probably need to hear it from RK. So for now let's not judge anything.
Actually since August.
*Hopefully on next Hearings can invite RK Husband and Therapist and Doctors and Sengkang Club Members and Volunteers and also SPF Investigation Team with regards to resoures exhausted on this case or MHA and also MOE to give some accounts with regards the usage of Your Call which PS interpreted differently from vocubalary cos we need to protect our education system standard and let our student know the correct definition of Your Call*
Obsessive questioning. It goes on and on like a super detailed gossip session.
An important point: There is always a risk that if directions are put too clearly and firmly it can be interpreted badly by the person in question and result in an event that is regrettable, harmful with permanently negative outcomes. Does the COP not realise that simple fact?
When RK told a lie in Parliament, she should seek Parliament approval first before she give police report .
*Sengkang now is more popular than Yishun for the obvious reason*
PS placed much weight on "ownership and responsibility" to avoid his responsibility as a party leader .
If what u said make any sense then LKY would had jump from the building when That HDB papaya who hang himself involving the bribery.
LHL would had to resign long long ago ….. party leader ….Responsibility …..
Chair TCJ has made a very relevant point .. if P was so clear that RK must own up on 4th October which she didn’t, why isn’t that Ms Loh had no sense at all he was angry on 12 October?!
ET gives up la. How can PS gave her a choice to continue lying when he knows everyone within WP would not allow that!!!
Then sat on that lies for 3 months is for what and he is a leader ok so dont be dumbb.
That’s exactly what he did though
@@jaenice7376 I guess you are faster than COP and can come to conclusion already. Please go Parliament tmmr to save all of them some time and money
Just put yourself in a leader's shoes, I want my fellow members under my charge to look good from the start. It is a decision whatever comes up to cover-up or not, everywhere is the same. There is a saying in the army, do anything but don't get caught.
When one shirk his responsibility in his exercising his authority as the leader , this is what happened.The 3 of them were absent from 8 Aug till 3rd Oct for his case and for SL 8Aug till 4th Oct. Do we need this kind of leaders?
And his only strong defence was on 3rd Oct when he met RK in her house talking verbally one to one with her that she had to take ownership of the lie.His words against hers.
RK messaged her two aides that PS asked her to keep the narrative and bring it to the grave immediately after that 3rd Oct meeting confirming this.
The time line is in RK's favour..
Now the WP's leadership is making more allegations for RK's mental capacity.
It's very clear that PS is trapped and he might not be innocent esp after meeting Miss Loh and told her that he would not judge RK and it was her call which could mean keep the narrative.
And then 29 NoV at DP, he repeated the " your call" again.
This is not a leader. A very poor one indeed.
There were no preparatory steps to guide or to order RK to correct the lie from 8th Aug where the 3 met RK till 3rd Oct when PS met RK.
I repeat.His only defence is he told her to take ownership of the lie on 3rd Oct in a one to one meeting with RK and her version is completely different from his
What a mess from the top gun of Workers Party.
These people are damaging our integrity
Only horribble and irresponsible and manipulative Leader will sit on such lies for months without reporting it and this is shameless.
@@bobafett5757
Indeed. Beyond logic.
Twists and turns without answering questions truthfully
Trying to play the victim card again for his blind followers
@@katherinefoo9809 Are you aware majority of the house already voted and agreed with COP decision to escalate this becoming serious case to PublicProsecution so explain what is it that you are uncertain about now and how can you be helped further ?
Is a Political Party so EASILY DESTROYEd ? Can a MP just make a lie and destroy a party and the leader never vet the speech beforehand? If so, then regimes would have changed so easily
If my boss tells me it is my call to correct my mistake, i know he would have a timeframe but I doubt it would be more than 3 weeks let alone 3 months and did nothing. This type of boss where to find????
Usually boss will give not more than 3 days and boss will submit report to HR so strange RK got 3 months 🤣
I have observed a pattern of thumbnails specifically selected in full COP videos of WP members in the sg gov channel as compared to CNA.
Anyone else notice the difference in thumbnails?
Yes
Never advocate for a liar or teach a liar to tell more lies because when he is caught he will tell the truth about you.
hahaha. how is that logical? A liar is a liar. Often times, people dont know they are dealing with a liar because the liar can be nice and charming. And once the person is caught, they will do anything to keep themselves blameless. They will never tell the truth, maybe half-truths. So the main question is how to detect a liar despite niceties?
To speak and to speak well, are two things. A fool may talk, but a wise man speaks.
@@september9646 Hahaha. To lie and to lie well are two different things. A bad liar is one who shoots himself in the foot while the good liar escaped scot free....
when WP was made aware that Mdm khan deliberately lied, not once, but twice in parliament, Pitam Singh and his wife shouldn't had visited khan at her residence. They should bewise to distance themselves from her, let parliament due with her lies. As all can see, mom khan is now putting all blames on other WP, maybe even lie further aboutWP in her testimony. She is an unreliable witness and in character.
Basically RK lied, PS knows about it. But he told RK to decide herself whether to come clean. Since RK has the deliberation to decide, she continued to lie.
And now PS feels that he has done enough on his part to make RK come clean? What kind of taichi skill is that?
"I know u did wrong. But I let you decide to come clean or not." every SME / middle level managers ever. Anything good is my leadership and guidance. Anything bad is your decision.
And oppos voters worship this guy?
Doesn't matter though , by 2025 WP still gonna win more seats because young Singaporeans have been anti-PAP ingrained into their brains , anything anti-PAP is good. They won't see they are dragging Singapore government down to the level of US broken 2 parties system in another 2 elections cycles.
Next time when you do something wrong. People will start to blame your mother.
@@yx6160 Then your mother will blame you back 🤣
@@bobafett5757 I take responsibility of what I do. Ain’t a kid
Never lie. Once you Lie, no end
Need another lie to tell another lie
This is what happened to Pritam
Fiost.. he did not lie...walk with the truth.
@@parnamsaini4751
Why is he not submitting all internal documents of discussion of the case amongst WP leadership?
Where were he from 8th Aug till 3rd Oct? What had he done to help RK admit the lie? Any preparation? Any order?
Where were SL and FM.
All disappeared. What kind of Party is this? Good for Spore? Transparent or Responsible?
I doubt
Let me echo this important observation - "Even though all of them have sworn to tell the truth, there are still contradictions in their testimonies. Obviously, there are hardcore liars in WP. It is difficult to trust anyone in the party."
Hmm....Evidence?
That means if you lie then we cannot trust your whole family?
PS should not have met Khan at all
This is in reference to the period 8/8 to 4/10
Lim n F deferred to PS (no communication on the matter at all) coz they trusted him. PS trusted RK to come clean after telling her 'take ownership (blame) and responsibility (punishment)' and no further steps to prepare the Party for the fallout from an "expected" confession. Great hand washing skills. Even your own cadres, Ms Loh, Mr Nathan and Mr Daniel Goh, want to hear from PS, SL and FM on their responsibilities and accountability. WP need to step up on your own check and balance.
(Matthew 5:36-37)
"Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. {37} But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."
Even though all of them have sworn to tell the truth, there are still contradictions in their testimonies. Obviously, there are hardcore liars in WP. It is difficult to trust anyone in the party.
I really salute people who can remember the exact words they said days ago. I usually remember only the gist of it. Different people would have different interpretation of things they heard. People also expressed differently.
*If only Sylvia is the Leader the situation will not be as this messy and can be handled so much better cos Sylvia seems to articulate professionally well and has stronger Leadership quality than PS*
She has got more experience.
Compare LKY with LHL.
No comparison.
@@gparamaeswary7276 Are you aware she complained about disabled toilet in the debate ?
Had PSingh told RKhan directly , in unequivocal language, that she should confess the lie, the WP leadership would not have to defend themselves so much trying to absolve themselves from blame in the COP hearing. Instead he used words like '...there is no judgement..", ..' your call'.. These two phrases mean giving the person spoken to the choice to decide what to do.
You have to see this words in light of the context. Those words mean differently in various settings and in totality of the evidence.
@@teelin8351 Can't expect someone in a desperate state to check the context to see what the leader really meant for her to do. PS later said " can't lie right?". Still RK felt the choice was hers to decide because it was 'your call'.
@@jasmineteo9883 “your call” was given after PS told her to take accountability and reminded her of what a MP should do. Please don’t take things out of context.
@@teelin8351 As i said, a desperate person won't be in the mood to check the context and ascertain what PS really wanted her to do.
"your call" was said to her in Oct, before the parlia meeting where Shanmugam questioned her, and she repeated her lie.
If I'm wrong about the context, it'll be helpful to fill me in. Thank you.
@@jasmineteo9883 I guess we may also have to understand that it could be their work culture or organisation’s leadership style as to why no clear order was given to RK in an authoritative, obey-or-die manner. It may be that PS expected RK to do the responsible thing, the right thing, by clarifying the lie if asked (instead of doubling down on the lie) but [PS] did not go to the extent of shoving it onto RK forcefully that she was to obey his command absolutely. Each working style has got its pros and cons. I guess PS treated RK as a responsible adult and he believed (at that time) that there was no need to “micromanage“ everything or be “bossy”. Of course, with hindsight, we could always say this or that would have been a better way. But this is only with hindsight.
And another factor contributing to this is how PK acted and whether she had communicated to PS she needed advice and what kind of detailed advice or instructions. She did not (before Oct 4 at least) approach PS proactively to ask him in clear terms what she should (and should not) do. For example, had she asked PS “do you think it’s a good idea for me to double down on the lie if the issue comes up tomorrow?”, she (in all likelihood) would have gotten a more straightforward answer/advice from PS.
Edwin Tong talking in circles again 🤣
This WP episode is really a big step backwards. RK not once but thrice lie and SINGH had said it is her responsibility to face it. If your company does not care about your employee, would you think your employee will do the same or to serve customers? Now RK says she has " dissociation", to me this is just an excuse. It seems WP had failed their supporters.
company and politics are different
@@wizzed you can agree to disagree
Their episode is national joke full of lies and excuses.
@@bobafett5757 cotton comes from sheep, Singapore schools are lousy and trace together privacy was the biggest joke of the decade and are some of the gravest lies that affect whole of Singapore and every singaporean.
What does "your call" implies? would it means, "if you decide to own up, I would be fine with it and if you do not, I am also fine with it?. I will not judge you", has the connotation, whatever you do, I am not judgmental, it's up to you to own up! (even with procrastination or tardiness without any sense of importance or urgency). As the leader, he should have issued a direct order (after it was revealed to him on 07Aug by RK) for her to own up immediately by reporting to Parliament without delaying further since it has serious implications if the matter is found out. This is also a contradiction to what RK had claimed that she was given the impression that she "can take her lie to the grave" which would mean the continuance of her narrative (the lie). This statement was debunked by the Leadership, which would imply that she's a compulsive liar!. Compulsive liar she is not, as she was quite remorseful when she intimated that she had made a grave mistake which would remain with her for the rest of her life. Given the fact that she's still young, a mistake does happen given her personal experience and she's not beyond redemption despite committing the serious mistake as everyone deserves a second chance since we are living in a much more rehabilitative society and environment. However, this time around, it was a much more subdued affair (as the proceeding went on, everything that transpired was recorded and presented without the opportunity to deny the facts, presented in booklet form on the table) in contrast to the earlier interview which was combative, argumentative, antagonistic, and defensive, when some YES and NO answers would have sufficed.
Yoh suffer from the same problem as ET, ignore all the context and only focus on the part you like.
Immediately after "your call" is "cannot lie right?". Your call means that as MP RK need to take the action and responsibility to face up. Which comes in the cannot lie.
"I will not judge YOU" IF you take accountability and ownership
You would be interested in the whole exchange if you were looking for the whole picture. And not interrupt and demand yes/no answers to your leading question, Hypothesis and assumptions
RK not a compulsive liar when minimally, admitted to lying 2 times in Parliament, 1 time to PS. Possible dissication and trauma?
If you were honest you will want her to be called again as a witness and challenged with PS and SL testimony. Just as PS and SL was challenged with hers.
To speak and to speak well, are two things. A fool may talk, but a wise man speaks.
Can PS achieve being the WP leader who sees WP destroyed ? Will WP ever be known to be Active in Engaging voters online and offline holding public talks, debates and discussions on policies , jobs, workers' rights and politics in general Before WP is destroyed, if indeed it is destroyed?
Chairman tan is still the best!!! He know how to talk!!!!👍👍👍
No point talk need action
Thought he was the worst like a robot, dead fish.
@H F maybe you should try staying up for god knows how many hours listening and able to uds the whole issue and summarise it. since you say everyone can do it
@@nsevv so he should be very emotional in such a serious setting?
So happy that finally Mr Pritam is toning down in the aggressiveness of his answers. He’s finally answering the questions with more straightforward answers and less sarcasm. He’s also finally not interrupting the speakers, speaking when he has the opportunity to explain and finally behaving like what a person being inquired would be like. Mr Edwin Tong’s questioning is still quite similar to his previous seatings. I would assume his previous tenacity in questioning was led on because Mr Pritam previously wasn’t cooperating. Sadly most “woke” Singaporeans would not agree with this view. Only one thing to takeaway from this video - all the members of the WP took an oath to tell the truth before coming into the hearing, but yet there are evidences being presented that contradict each other.
for the benefit of all viewers I would like to understand if COP is indeed a Tribunal?
THE COP CHAIRMAN MENTIONED THE COP IS COMMITTEE , AND NEVER MENTIONED IT AS TRIBUNAL. WHY MR EDWIN TONG USE "TRIBUNAL" INSTEAD OF COMMITTEE?
IS MR EDWIN TONG MISLEADING THE VIEWERS?
Why this COP always keep repeating same old questions and answers? Whats the objective narrative anecdote in it Sia? 😆🍟
PS has answered ET's questions but it's not according to what ET has wanted.
Purpose is to shut the WP speak up for the people 👍👍👍.
LoO, Pritam Singh argued so well but when it came to the part in which he was asked by Minister Edwin Tong on why did he not encourage Raeesah to respond to the police who wrote or called her on three different dates, and LoO replied that he thought it is better for her to answer to the Parliament because she made that allegation in Parliament & only to be penalised by Parliament. Hence, she should tell the police that she only answer to the Parliament. If he did REALLY tell her to respond to the police, she would have done it & the police would not have to ask her three times. So, whose testimonies are more real?
At least all matters cleared with all evidents given. Tats good....a sigh of relief.....tat crazy RK shd dealt severely with cos she lied a 2nd time n create tis whole mess for WP n leader PS. ......good job COP n WP members.....😊
Just imagine in a court where the defendant can't engage a lawyer. This is Lee Kuan Yew's feudal system.
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What a ridiculous comment. All the people called up are not the accuse. It’s an enquiry.
huh? This is an inquiry not a trial?
Good Morning 🌞
Congratulations 👋
RK has foolishly committed a grave error. Being an elected MP, RK has to be held responsible and RK deserves to receive appropriate civil penalties which both government and WP ought to evolve without any unfair malice. After all, RK is human and erring is only human.
I cannot help considering the current Committee of Privileges an unnecessary event which is taking up precious time of politicians on both the Ruling Party and the Opposition Party.
Singapore definitely has much more important matters to be attended by all Members of Parliament. Singaporeans elected MPs to carry out earnest governing duties to improve the lives of Singaporeans and the entire society of Singapore.
I earnestly request the government take a bold and benevolent step to end the current Committee of Privileges so that all MPs can return to their respective places of National Duties.
Singaporeans want our politicians to earnestly, constructively and without self-interest in minds and hearts to make our country a better home for all citizens.
The WP has chosen a lunatic to be in their party and the people of Sengkang have elected a lunatic to be their MP.
Sengkang now more famous than Yishun 🤣
Simple la why not use a lie detector to test them and not waste time lol
This is really a waste of time!!
Singh's testimony is suspicious and an irresponsible leader of the opposition. Who is the greater liar, WP leaders versus Ms. Khan?
MP lying must own up. NO body can help. Even LKY around can not force any MP to says things. BS and others give hell to Lee.
His testimony is unbelievably suspicious and he is messing with words and sentences and trying very high to sound highfalutin but failed.
Why is it so hard for Pritam to speak simply and clearly? It's a habit. He is non committal. Sneaky bugger. Context my foot lah. 9 hours later still cannot be clear. Sylvia only 3 hours.
Yup you are right he stretched that 9 hours playing with words just to distract and obviously Sylvia is so much better in giving her testimony.
How many manpower hours of MANY MINISTERS and Staff and Costs have been spent on this Inquiry in total!? Raeesah did many wrongs, discipline her and say it clearly... Voters will decide whether to vote for WP or not again next time, you PAP focus on your job!... No need waste taxpayers' Money on Million dollars Ministers' salaries (so many ministers over many hours altogether)... We already knew Raeesah Khan not good and people already lost trust in Pritam Singh (because he did not stand up for citizens suffering COVID-19 vaccination-differentiated measures)... So, PAP, can you stop wasting time and taxpayers money... PAP, go and think how to STOP enforcing 3rd dose Sinopharm vaccine or booster after booster
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Need to wayang and wayang to get us off focus la
Quote "I must say that I don't make any apologies for that. I would do it again."
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COP LEARNING slowly this is not a court of law if lawyer is not allowed.
Pap is so keen to believe the words of a emotionally distraught, desperate liar.
RE: HELP ! sorry guys side tracked abit. how to go johor now ? VTL lane is what ar?
Johor dont want you 🤣
Small country fighting big who win?
WP leaders are no saint and we know politics are dirty.
Nevertheless, to run as an opposition, more so as a leader of opposition, requires much sacrifice. Especially needing to be constantly on your toes and getting ready to be pounded by snakes, i salute you Mr Singh!
Busy lah. Covid lah. All doing what ? ART poking nose all the time. PAP doing what ? Every citizen nose get poke liao. They still go around poking ! Sebei song huh ?
Poke until become Pokemon 🤣🤣🤣🤣
WP's abt 2loose:Leon Pereira they can't afford 2loose Pritam!
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