Destroying the LAST Splash Mountain: Disney Allegedly Pressuring Tokyo Disneyland to End It!
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
- Destroying the LAST Splash Mountain: Disney Allegedly Pressuring Tokyo Disneyland to End It!
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"Song of the South" had the first black actor to win an Honorary Oscar (the 2nd to win any,) but Iger wants to erase it in the name of "anti-racism." He might as well pretend James Baskett never existed.
I heard people didn't like the movie because it takes place in the plantation
@@animezilla4486 It took place after the Civil War. Slavery was abolished. Uncle Remus was even about to leave town toward the end. If he was a slave, he wouldn't be allowed to leave.
History, even when cleaned up by Walt Disney, makes Portland blue haired wokesters very uncomfortable. Then they begin screaming.
James Baskett deserved a lot better then this. T_T
@@TerryKitts Which is why when I take over Disney the wokesters will be seen as undesirable and not welcome at the parks. They will be used as villains in movies.
Man, Bob is enemy of Disney. Putting that in perspective the acts of Bob now make sense he is burning everything and salting the grounds.
Not just Bob Iger, Carmen Smith was the mastermind behind Splash Mountain being rethemed
Lil Bobby Biden.
@@MrParkFan When I take over Disney, that demon will be blacklisted as the Red she is when I give her name to a reborn HUAC just as Walt would've. I won't let anyone like her work for Disney as par t of my plans to make it great again.
@@stanfordite1I'd vote for you if you'd do that😉
The shareholders have spoken. Bob Iger is fine. It's all fine.
Of course, the shareholders are monumentally stupid for voting the white card (keep Iger), but it's their money Iger is burning. Even the shareholders that didn't bother to vote - they voted for Iger by NOT voting for Peltz. And so Disney burns...
I have never seen a company so hell bent on failure. It is absolutely mind-boggling how seemingly scared Disney is to make anything that their former fans actually want.
Iger has no right telling Tokyo what to do with the theme parks over there.
@@Disneyfan82exactly and the only thing iger could,likely, is to revoke those licenses or something, and OLC will be very mad if Disney does that over one freaking ride
@@chheinrich8486 I hate UA-cam for silencing me every time I talk shit about Iger, wishing he would vanish. It's like they idolize him or something, making it questionable what society we live in.
I’ve seen this same story play out over and over in other industries and fandoms. The bottom line is they want the old fans gone
@@darkridearts Which is why when I take over Disney, newer younger fans will be turned into clones of the old fans. Disney under me will have a fanbase of zombies with brains stuck in the 20th century.
Instead of canceling Splash Mountain, how about Iger gets canceled & fired.
Why the hell hasn't he?
I agree!
No. The shareholders voted on April 3, 2024. They chose Iger. Don't like it? Buy 51% of Disney's stock, then vote. It's that simple.
Even the shareholders who didn't vote at all essentially voted for Iger, by not voting for Peltz. So Iger is their big, woke hero.
All I can do as a non-shareholder is not spend a single cent on anything Disney - no merch, cruises, parks, or streaming. Nothing.
@@TerryKitts Why are shareholders such blindsided sniveling cowards?
Because it makes FAR too much sense in clown world to fire the guy responsible for trying to burn the company to the ground. It's like in politics where instead of being fired for abject failure, they are instead rewarded with constant promotions and raises.
OLC should keep Splash Mountain
If Disney withholds their merchandise, couldn't Japan make even better Splash Mt merchandise? Japan already has the best merchandise. How is Iger going to sue them, all the way in Japan? Barring that, they could simply close the merchandise store, and put up pictures of Br'er Rabbit and friends at the ride exit. A big, fat middle finger, aimed directly at Iger and his woke Imagineer cronies.
@@TerryKitts It's not quite that simple. Allegedly they are barred from any SotS merchandise even if they make it themselves. As yes, while Iger would have to sue them in Japan, Disney has the power to not renew the Disney license at all. (Then the parks would need to close. Yes, Disney can do that.)
@@ThemeParkZilver That won't happen. Splash will never close in Japan and there will be SotS merchandise. I've bet money on it.
The Japanese Disney fans love the Br'er characters! 🐰🦊🐻
OLC needs to stand up and say NO! We are not going to remove this ride!
Tokyo is rebuilding Space Mountain and half of Tomorrowland for the next 3 years. There is no way they start rebuilding Splash Mountain at the same time.
I hope Tokyo tells them to stuff it. Seriously, I bet good money that the very fact the Tokyo has the last splash mountain still standing is one of the reasons why they see a lot of their traffic. If any of the businessmen over there have any sense they'll ignore Disney and fight tooth and nail to keep it.
Well they don't want to do that but at least want to try to reason with Disney
@@animezilla4486 - Reason with Iger? Seriously? You would probably have better luck reasoning with Hamas.
Japan, hell the world needs to stop letting these Neo commie dirtbags bully them into submission.
@@animezilla4486 That will never happen. Wake up already.Bob is beyond all hope if reason.
If Disney offers them something better they will swap it. The OLC has no attachment to the characters or their history, only their popularity. The thing is, Disney *has* nothing better to swap it with. That is where the friction is coming from. If Bayou Adventure looked like it was going to be a smash hit, they would have swapped already. But, since most accounts think it will bomb hard, the OLC is not willing to invest in changing the ride.
the OLC has Every right to Keep it it's splash mountain All That Iger is Doing is making him Look like a Baby.
Oh there’s a sweetheart deal from Disney that OLC couldn’t even say no
I miss Splash Mountain. 😢
After 30 years, I let my AP expire this year because of the gleeful destruction of Splash Mountain. Disney is not for me anymore. I hope guests from Portland can keep Disney World financially afloat.
Same
I don't think OLC will budge, something as minor as changing the redhead auction scene and even now they still wouldn't do it means they are way more stubborn to change than people think they are.
walt loved the wench auction, he laughed about it in an interview from the late 60's talking about the soon to be opened wdw.
If they are forced to get rid of splash in Japan, they should level the ride and not make it Tiana’s.
Yeah, I doubt Disney would be willing to pay to rebuild Tiana's from the ground up. 😊
Remake America Sings with the splash mountain animatronics how about that
Save Splash Mountain from extinction!!
Here? Too late.
In Japan? Have the government designate it at a historical monument. Then, not even Iger can touch it.
@@TerryKitts Splash Mountain is not closed in the US. That's a lie.
Come on Japan, hold the line to have one last bastion of people childhood memory.
Even Japan too?! Bob Iger truly is an evil person...
Why the hell are people letting him do this instead of standing up and telling him to go **** himself?
He’s also woke and racist at the same time! 😡
Why the hell are they letting this worthless piece of crap tell everyone what to do?
And a complete idiot. His decisions in the last decade have lost a ton of money and damaged multiple brands. To make it worse, he has no plans to course correct, even though he knows the path they're on is losing them billions.
Disney needs new leadership or should just be disbanded altogether
Shareholders said no to new leadership on April 3, 2024. Don't like it? Buy 51% of Disney's stock. Then vote.
Disney will have new leadership after my takeover. With the majority of the stock, I will usher in the Make Disney Great Again era and I won't be CEO but Owner. Just as sports teams have Owners. I won't be answering to anyone but Walt's ghost and all decisions will be made by asking "What would Walt do?" again like management did after his death.
I want Disney to hire new CEO, who is against woke cancel culture!
Good news is that Josh D’ Amaro will take over as CEO. I hope he can work some things out with the company.
@@celestiadrools9551 But he’s woke!
Japan will never fold and I'll be enjoying Splash in all three of its incarnations in 2046 for Song of the South's centennial.
Why doesn't Bobby take all of his billions and go create his own theme park and do whatever he wants.
Traditional Disney and Modern Disney are truly world’s apart, Bob and his board are doing everything in their power to remove a trace of Traditional Disney from the face of the planet if not existence and history itself because they know full well that Traditional Disney has value in it more than what they have, I hope OLC doesn’t bend the knee because it has practically one of the rare traces of classic Traditional Disney that still holds significant relevance and value
Disney executives more concerned with their image than what the customer wants. This is how every company ever goes downhill.
Destroying your best just so you can't compare it with what you are currently able to do is mediocrity at its finest.
Bob is the king of bring disingenuous. Iger has been killing Wslts and Roys dreams
😡Well, he's going to pay the price. And I'm personally going to make sure that he does! I'm going to make him RUE the day he made Disney go woke!
@@annien.1727 Sadly, he seems to be fairly innocuous fairly and calculated against any big move against what he's preaching.
The Asian parks aren’t broken. Don’t “fix” them. They are doing Disney better than Disney is.
They got rid of Buzz for Antman. F them.
At this point, it's like disney WANTS to lose money.
I have no interest in ever going to a Disney park ever again…except for Tokyo Disney as long as they keep Splash Mountain!
There is a lot more here than just Disney wants Splash Mountain gone to be considered.
First, unlike in Disneyland where Critter Country is right next to New Orleans Square and Disney World where there is no New Orleans, Tokyo has a different set up. In Tokyo they do have a "New Orleans" though it is technically considered part of Adventureland. (It still looks just like Disneyland's design and contains Pirates of the Caribbean.)
Legend has it, The Princess and the Frog was made with the intention of replacing Splash Mountain from the get go. (Think of how close Tiana's Place was to the restaurant already in the New Orleans at Disneyland.) However, like with Discovery Bay, poor box office lead to the idea being scrapped. The reason this matters is Tiana is inseparable from New Orleans, yet in Tokyo, Critter Country is not adjacent to New Orleans. This would mean a second Bayou area near Fantasyland and Frontierland. It would be wildly out of place. So Disney would not only need to convince the OLC to change the theme of the ride but the entire surrounding area as well. If Disney is footing the bill this is equivalent to paying for an entire mini land. (Not Galaxy's Edge big but still not cheap.)
The next obstacle is the OLC doesn't settle for cheap garbage. They said no to Galaxy's Edge, they said no to Avenger's Campus, they said no to Pandora. Even existing rides like Soarin', Toy Story Mania and Indiana Jones (Along with Splash Mountain as mentioned in the video) have significant upgrades to the original versions. This would mean not only offering Tiana to OLC for free, but creating a better version than the US. (Since there is almost no way the US versions meet the OLC's standards.) So even if they do manage to vanquish Splash Mountain, Disney will have to live with being seen as cheaping out the US versions of the ride. (And since this was all because of a certain incident in 2020, it allows the virtue signal to be even more hollow than it already is.)
Of course, Disney will also have to contend with being seen as a western company imposing their ideals on a foreign nation. (Something that has historically been frowned upon, but recently has seen a resurgence from certain groups of people.)
Now as the OLC, this may not be the worst thing in the world. Yes, park fans might lose Splash Mountain, but Disney sounds as though they are prepared to write a blank check to remove the ride. All the OLC has to do is ask, how much is this worth to you? They could easily turn the area into an extension of Fantasyland and add something for pretty much any IP they want. (Though, they already have Tangled, Frozen, Little Mermaid, Aladdin & Beauty and Beast, there aren't all that many mega hits left to pick from.) Alternatively, they could lean into the success of the Mysterious Island in Tokyo Disney Sea and put in Discovery Bay. (I am half joking, but at the same time...) Japan understands the popularity of steampunk and it would be unique, with a bonus of being next to Frontierland. Not to mention more popular than Tiana will be. They also has a special place for Kingdom Hearts in Japan, which could be a big success both for locals and travelers. Or better yet, since they are not owned by Disney, perhaps they could find a way to get a certain cute blue dog to replace the Brer animals... Just a few ideas I would be thinking about if I was at the OLC and Disney was on it's knees begging. (That's not even considering the bargaining power of lower license fees, longer contracts or other business end benefits.)
Overall I don't think it will happen. Or if it does it won't be a one to one switch to Tiana. (Even if Disney pays.) Some other agreement will be reached that involves something the OLC wants rather than Tiana. (Or perhaps in exchange for and in addition to adding Tiana.)
As Japanese people r they won't flinch just like Sam wing on gremlins as much as Billy's farther tries to pay alot a money fur the mogwai he wouldn't sell and mr wing shook his head and said "he is not for sale mogwai is alot of responsibility he's no ordinary creature" that goes to show Japan doesn't change anything
How about this one (I wish)?:
OLC: "If you want us to consider changing anything in the future, then sign over your entire company, all trademarks, all copyrights, all content to us so that we will own Disney's legacy instead and take care of it since you clearly have no respect for Walt."
If Disney's goal is making sure that Tiana's Bayou Disaster isn't put it to shame by whatever Tokyo has, that rules out replacing Tokyo's SM with anything good. Disney basically has to pay OLC to make their park suck just as bad as Disney's parks do, which could be a tough sell, especially with Disney not being flush with cash themselves.
Having BOTH American versions be rethemed was painful enough, no thanks.
If they only did it to one and didn’t go out of their way to remove the characters from everything, I’d be fine. But no.
Cry harder
If Japan was smart they wouldn’t get rid of the most popular ride on earth
@jilp2002 Nobody can cry as hard as Disney’s stock unfortunately lol.
@@jilp2002 Shilling is against the law so sit down and as a military man, that's an order.
I really hope the corporation running the Disney franchise in Japan, sticks to their guns, doesn't bend the knee to Western sensibilities. We don't all need to be the same. I dream of the uniqueness of Tokyo Disney! It's on my bucket list ,I don't wanna travel all that distance just to get a regurgitated Anaheim Disney.
Disney doesn’t own the park in Japan so it doesn’t matter what DEIger and board have planned. With the popularity of the ride it would be interesting to hear Disney’s flawed reasoning for eliminating Splash Mountain.
The Japanese love for Splash Mountain is because of their obsession with "kawaii." The Br'er characters don't have the same cultural value to the Japanese, as Americans in terms of their history. But, because they're considered "cute" the Br'er characters are a hundred times more appealing to the Japanese than a princess based IP like The Waitress and the Frog. The Br'er characters were also known to the Japanese through comic books and television. Unlike in the US, where the characters are more strongly associated with the wrongfully demonized film, Song of the South. I don't know the length of OLC's license agreement with Disney Enterprises for the Br'er characters or Splash Mountain, but Disney obviously got back control of the music from Song of the South. It's my hopes that OLC can maintain the rights to the Br'er characters for so long as they maintain the Splash Mountain attraction which requires regular overhauls beyond its usual maintenance. It's at the time of an overhaul when the Walt Disney Company tries selling a retheme. It should be up to Walt Disney Imagineering to offer suggestions on possible rethemes or expansions, but the Walt Disney Company (Bob Iger Corp.) has its agenda to push in an effort to be "good global citizens."
Yes and no……
Rabbits and Foxes are culturally significant animals in Japan and Foxes are seen as both good and bad in Japanese Folklore. So Br’er Fox and the trickster Br’er Rabbit bridged to their own culture.
www.nga.gov/features/life-of-animals-in-japanese-art.html#:~:text=Foxes%20play%20both%20good%20and,Inari%E2%80%94foxes%20were%20also%20revered.
You may think you hate Bob Iger. You don't hate him enough.
Splash Mountain was the best thing at Disney World
It’s the GOAT!
Wow comments being deleted, this must be HUGE operation. Must be an army of bob's incels watching the comments.
Me With a Time Machine: I came from the Future here to warn You That Their is Man Named Bob Iger Don't ever let Him Run your Company.
Please don't drive the Delorean on the railroad tracks, just saying. The train will NOT swerve first.
It's high time we all "Splash Mountain" fans let our voices be heard and put Bob to shame!.
Where can we sign a petition to keep it standing in Tokyo Disneyland?
Maybe Google has an address?
But a politely worded, hand written letter, carefully explaining that this ride is now unique and the only one of its kind left might have more impact.
No anger, just explaining it's now on many folks list to visit Tokyo's park BECAUSE its the last version.
Even though Japan is a very respectful country they are racist. Anyone not Japanese is looked on as "less than" Even kids that are mixed race are treated different. The Japanese will not allow a Tiana ride to be installed.
It's getting sadder and sadder for me that the East is now seen by the West as the last bastions of normalcy regarding culture.
Just FYI though, JP and KR tend to be very slow when it comes to trends, just last year Japan's government was looking into investing into NFTs, after the market already crashed. Hell the government had to have a special taskforce to update all their offices to no longer use fax machines and floppy disks.
Satan is desperate to take over the entire earth.
It's one thing for Igor and his " yes men" board to destroy the USA parks, but it's a whole different animal when Igor and the "yes men" board tries to spread the cancer over to Tokyo Disney.
The Oriental Land Co (Tokyo Disneyland) should tell Igor to pound sand like Musk did.
Anyone else get the feeling iger really loves the ccp and really hates the usa?
Disney would like Japan’s Splash Mountain to close so that no can be reminded of the big mistake he made in the American parks.
Japan won't give into disney.
And that is why I do not have any pity of those shareholders that voted to keep Bob there. Big or small, all those shareholders deserve the money lost because of their stupidity.
While I am not surprised, as a standing Splash Mountain will remind Disney fans of Iger’s Go Woke, Go Creatively Broke failure. Here are a few points: 1) Based on my understanding, Disney cannot dictate to OLC so it must be incentives-based, 2) OLC cannot take Splash offline until their new Space Mountain is complete, as Tokyo Disney would have major capacity issues if two E-Tickets were down and 3) OLC would only agree to this…if Disney were to give up a fortune (as they are doing domestically in terms of declining brand: Animation, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, 20th Century Studios), by reducing their licensing and / or consulting fees to OLC.
Oriental Land Company should just give Iger and Disney the finger. As it would prove what everyone already knows that no one wants this revisioned Splash Mountain. I swear Disney is really trying to piss off their fans. Honestly at this point it’s really like they’re trying to bankrupt the company. I’m really starting to wonder if Iger and the board are purposely doing so. Maybe so another major business can acquire Disney. Maybe someone like Apple?
Jesus allows the wicked to destroy themselves so you can only look at his kingdom instead.
So how is Disney going to justify this in the shareholder meeting when it's licensed IP merch sales have been tanking for over a year - oh yeah, taking no questions. OLC will have no recourse - much tougher than Godzilla is a lawyer with a writ.
What are the copyright laws in Japan? How long till Song of the South is in the public domain in Japan?
it might already be, a quick check suggests 70 years after it was made public. Song of the South was released in November 1946... If my math is correct...
Why would Iger attack a popular, NAACP blessed ride? Wouldn't a workaround be to offer a buildabear style plushie so customers can assemble Briar rabbit themselves?
IGER!!!😡😡😡STOP this foolish nonsense now!
Why should he? Shareholders were OK with Iger. You were outvoted (unfortunately).
@@TerryKitts How the hell did he even win legally?
@@TerryKitts Exactly This! Stockholm Syndrome for the win.
@TerryKitts No. A few large corporations voted for Bob. The common shareholder did not. Ever since the proxy war Disney’s stock has been dropping (again). Where it stops….noone knows.
Ok, this is getting out of hand. If Japan is fine with the ride being in their park, then they have the right to keep it. Besides, the reason why they have it over there is because of the little critters from animated parts of the movie. They only care about the animals, and the cultural significance behind it. It’s up to them to decide what they will do with it, but that doesn’t mean pressuring them or forcing them against their will is going to fix anything. It just makes Disney look bad.
Japan never bought blacks as slaves like the US did. It's simply not an issue for them. Japan never had a Civil War over black slavery, so it's not even a concern there. They probably think we are crazy, as consumed with guilt as we are for something no living person ever engaged in. Smoking is not the taboo there as it is in the US. It's a different world from ours. Japan doesn't need to suffer for Iger's guilt.
I have a brer bunny plushie. My prized possession.
Blob Igor continues to show his incompetence and Great Horned Mickey continues to flounder
Hey Mr. Iger, I want to repaint your car to a lovely urine yellow color. I'll even pay for all the spray paint cans and do all the work myself so it won't cost you anything!
OLC should give Bob the same answer Bob would give me.
How about 💩 brown. And use actual feces for the brown paint and have Iger paint it himself.
Here is what I don't comprehend about this situation. From what I understand Song of the South should be public domain in Japan. According to what I understand of Japanese law, a copyrighted work bearing the name of a corporate body (in this case Disney) enters the public domain 70 years after the making public of the work. Song of The South was released in November 1946, or 77 years ago. I am not a lawyer, but if I understand correctly then Song of the South should be in the public domain in Japan. And in that case, Tokyo Disney should be able to keep selling the merchandise (as long as it matches what is in the movie), using the soundtrack, and keeping Splash Mountain as is.
Am I missing something here?
Not sure, but one trick that is commonly used to extend copyright is to copyright derivative works with the same characters.
We'll have to build a secret copy of Splash Mountain somewhere.......
Stand strong Tokyo Disney!
Current Disney mindset is to look at something which has made money for decades and change it so that it looses them money, damages that thing and the Disney reputation. You don't even need to do anything; just stand out of the blast zone and pass around the popcorn.
I have my copy of Song of the South on DVD. Love watching this movie. It has the first Black. Academy Award winner for his role as Uncle Remus.
You don’t hate iger enough
I get a sense that Tiana's Bayou Adventure's selling point is its story and and historical context like Mardi Gras. Knowing the Japanese community, there's no way most people will be able to appreciate the context and fully enjoy the ride, or at least in the way that Disney intends us to do so. Most of us Japanese don't know the backstory to Splash Mountain but we enjoy it because its been there since our childhood regardless and the ride does well to explain the story in Japanese through the animatronics. Not to mention that a major portion of visitors are high schoolers and university students. It'll just be confusing and nothing more.
英語うま
If OLC holds their ground on Splash Mountain will that create issues for future licensing for other IPS? I am also curious how long OLC holds the licensing for Splash Mountain. I have seen several videos showing how busy Tokyo Disneyland is I don't think they would like to change the theming to their most popular ride. I hope they tell Disney to pound sand even if they are willing to pay for it.
Since Disney Doesn’t own the Chinese parks, could the Chinese build a Splash Mountain in either of those parks if they wanted without Disney’s approval?
Disney only has partial ownership with Hong Kong, Shanghai, and Disneyland Paris
@@nickhenline1532 Disney owns Disneyland Paris 100%.
@@gentlemanfarmer5738 now that you say that, didn't that happen within the last few years? Originally wasn't it shared ownership?
@@nickhenline1532 You're right at the start it was shared. It was the French goverment who asked to include Jules Verne's creations into the park. The Walt Disney Company bought the last shares in 2005 I recall, something like that, in order to control the park. But to save it as well, Disneyland was losing money from the beginning in 1992. I guess they wanted to manage it in their own way. They kind of succeded, today it is the most profitable Disney Park in the world.
Bobby doesn’t understand Japanese people at all. They are amused by the rides and could care less what the “undercurrent” story is in this type setting. Is it fun? Check. Is it good memories with family and friends? Check. Leave it alone, Bobby!!
Wrong! He does. In fact, he's one of them, a Tengu. 👺 Bob Iger is an instrinsic part of ancient Japanese culture.
We’ve all seen businesses die because of bad management, but I have never, ever seen a business try so hard to kill itself and demonize it’s customers.
They rival Bud Light on demonizing its customers, and that’s saying something.
Disney really is idiotic. I tied Tiana’s Bayou Adventure to the Star Wars the acolyte. So, there is no stopping my criticism. I wonder what their reaction will be if they saw that. Tokyo doesn’t have to say no it’s only the guests that have to say no. So, I was thinking if it was tied to a product that people said no to it will be easier to persuade the fans and guests to say no to Tiana’s Bayou Adventure.
Stay STRONG JAPAN !!!
Bobby gonna find out.
Disney will be remembered in the future in the same reverence and place in the history books as the McCarthy Hearings.
Leave it alone BOB
I was listening to this in the background. I did not expect the puppet 😂.
That’s unfortunate. I got to go to Tokyo Disneyland and Tokyo Disney Sea and it was honestly one of the best theme park experiences ever, but the one thing I missed out on was their Splash Mountain since it was winter and closed at the time. I hope to go to Japan again and maybe someday get to ride it. It’s stupid to shut down the last version of it when TDL has a it’s own little Critter Country area and restaurant that go with Splash Mountain.
Someone is going have to give Bob Iger a run for his money. I hope we will get a new CEO soon.
i get that the reason they went with Tina as a replacement was probably because it passively could match the theme of the rides layout and alot could be reused , but if you ask me if they really had to replace it (which they didnt ) there were a lot of other projects that maybe could have fit the water ride side of it better.
in some alternate universe maybe we could have gotten the maelstrom back by placing it in splash mountain with updates to the layout .
cause ultimately wasnt that also a beloved ride that people didnt want gone and rather than addresses the repairs needed they just swapped it with a elsa themed attraction ?
it was an epcot ride sure but the parks feel so disjointed with all the ips that i cant say it would be seen as a big deal to just put it where splash mountain is .im not sure how much work would be needed and people probably wouldnt like the changes that would be needed but theyd have been more receptive to that.
theres water sequences in Emperor's new groove , that could have also with some tweaking and maybe pulling from the sequel + show also worked. bam an attraction that fits the water theme, had a broader appeal , and was well liked. you could probably reuse alot of the set up of those old animatronics too and their placement .at least i think so.
i dont think theres too many other options unless they go to tv shows entirely which i doubt theyd do seeing as they barely seem to care for any of their shows new or old . but imagine an amphibia themed ride or something of that nature.
cuz like when i first started visiting the parks in like the 2007-2016 ish era youd always have these pop up attractions themed to different popular shows and character meetups for stuff like Kim Possible and Phineas/Ferb and you use to hear that they "always considered putting in a gravity falls ride " that would have stayed long term but it never seemed to happen . which caught me off guard when compared to some of the older dark rides that had a range between feature film and that weird middle ground of like 22 minute stuff .
one can understand with how hersh speaks why he never probably got a ride for his show . but like Dan Polivmire is still actively making tv shows within the P&F universe for disney and theres actually still demand for all three of those projects. so youd think like maybe something would have come about from that ?
but some of the best shows of the post 2015 era unfortunately got caught in the transition between cable and streaming production and got pretty poor treatment by the company itself . so seeing something like a Molly McGee or Amphibia ride seems less likely anywhere in the park even though i think both of those properties have a real solid potentional to be well received overlays to attractions that are unused space right now .
i guess really what im saying is they had options A LOT of options other than Princess & Frog that could have met a need for that space without destroying/removing a bunch of usable animatronics . whether the ride turns out good or not theyve kinda actively chosen to get rid of props and set pieces that probably will be left somewhere in storage to rot . its giving the same vibes as what happened to ToonTown in Disneyworld.
im neither for or against the removal of a ride for its history im kinda in the middle. the ride needed repair and i think secertly its not even about having an agenda , i truly think like maelstrom they just wanted an excuse to spend a load of money repairing it and decided it be cheaper to just redo the theme entirely . i think the approach they took with making it seem like its replacement is somehow the only solution to the issues , is intentionally misleading people so they dont look at how much money disney parks are losing and how much easier doing this is to try to reduce cost. cuz this is very close to what happened with maelstrom if i recall.
Cancel Culture is a cancer, they need to leave Splash Mountain in Tokyo Disney alone 😡 Carmen Smith is the one who was responsible for the (Retheme Drama) her and Bob Iger needs to be removed immediately 😡
I hope we get rid of cancel culture
@@animezilla4486 Me too!
This retheme could’ve worked if Dr. Facilier was in the story. Once Disney revealed the ride took place after the movie, any hope I had for the retheme died.
I don’t believe he will succeed. He doesn’t even have the money and is not the boss, and neither is that (dare I say it) black hypocritic racist Carmen.
The reason the closed Slash Mountain was that this so Called Black Life's Matter mention that, it had something to do with Slavery and the Song Deep Pee Do Da was the song of Pre-Civil War of the South...and Black Life's Matter wanted Disney to do something about it...
This is why Disney Closed Slash Mountain
This Ride had nothing to do with Slavery or the Song and its Animatronics...
It was a Beautiful Ride...
It's Sorry it's Gone...
Now, Bob Iger is trying to get Rid of it all together at Tokyo Japan Disney...it's a Popular Ride in Tokyo let it Stay there....Let's get Rid of Bob Iger... He has Destroyed The Disney Dream/Magic...it's gone
and so am I and my family... I'll always Remember Walt Disney and His Dream...and the Magic to the Park....
What a Beautiful Man!!
Japan and OLC is not afraid to make changes to its rides. That being said, they will only do so if it's beneficial to them financially. When the movie updates came for Pirates of the Caribbean, they were happy to add those, but they had no obligation to remove the auction scene, the pillaging scene where the men are chasing the women, etc. When Sinbad was badly received by Japanese residents, they were fine with changing it to a lighter tone, and also to add Chandu for merchandising reasons. So they will make changes, but to change a ride like Splash that is so financially beneficial for them to keep is a big ask, and one that I don't think that they would do even if Disney footed the bill.
Song of the south is a beautiful movie and my kids love it.
The new woke mountain bayou adventure will instantly be welcomed by all the Disney park youtubers and the fanatics on Disney fan sites. Also Marvin The Movie Monster needs to be on every panel :D
Looking at the new ride,
I think they should name it Tiana's Broccoli Mountain Bayou Adventure.
I hope the ride is not get shut down also and other news there is a rumor going around that a Kingdom hearts movie is in development if that turns out to be true it looks like Nintendo entertainment and sega some serious competition
I’m pretty sure there’s more than 13-17 animatronics, that’s just the number of advanced ones?
We will meet 16 band members during the ride (could they appear a second time all together for the finale?) at least 2-3 Tiana and Louise animatronics, we’ve seen 5 additional film character animatronics, and I would expect Naveen and maybe Big Daddy will also appear in the finale.
So if we say the frog band are just motionless statues, Naveen and Big daddy aren’t in the ride, and we only get two of Tiana and Louise.. That means we have atleast 21 minimum. But on the optimistic side that’s around 45 animatronics possibly more? (obviously not all will be advanced animatronics)
I’m still trying to stay hopeful for the ride and see through light at the end of the tunnel. 🤷♂️
The Muppets Take Splash Mountain: What Could Have Been - Central Disney
This would be a perfect solution for Tokyo Disney Splash Mountain, as rumors abound which state that Tokyo Disney is being forced into taking down the original "Splash Mountain."
This would be a great retheme !!!
I told my wife if we ever go back to a Disney park it’ll in Japan.
Why not… merge the two into a single idea? 💡
Bob Iger is an unparalleled jack a$$. Would rather see Disney parted out than continue down the path they are currently on. #Dangitbob
Just pure evil.
dont do it oriental land company. you are THE best disney park because YOU own it. dont back down.
OLC should tell CEO Bob Iger to go pound sand ⏳. LOL. 😁😂🤪🤣😆😄😊👌
Japan.
Should say no
It's like they just keep sinking further into their woke quicksand
It's not broken, it doesn't need fixing - however, the ideology is hat it's utterly broken and cannot be condoned.
Japan can come up with their own toys.They don't care
Good grief, Bob Iger is a monster!!
Disney getting rid of Splash Mountain in Japan is their re-imagineers version of taking down a statue.
Tom has a good point w his fast food QC example, but as he says, this is a bad business move by Disney. I've been to McDonalds in 5 countries & 2 Continents; each country had variations on the menu based on their local food & other cultural preferences. Seems like Disney is trying to force compliance for the sake of ideology that is not universally accepted but they feel, should be. The same ppl complain about the US being a bully for their involvement in global wars, as a forcing of US political ideology & other agendas on other nations. The hypocrisy is astounding. Disney has ostracized their own audience in the US, now they want other nations to destroy theirs. I hope that Japan stands firm & does what's best for their Park.
"First in history" and "first ever" are beoming slurs.
As someone who has ridden on Splash Mountain both in Anaheim and Tokyo Disneyland, I can attest to how popular this ride is to visitors from all over the world. I was even lucky enough to purchase a Laserdisc of Song of the South in a Japanese video store and I was able to view the notorious film itself. Personally, I think everyone should watch it in Japanese, because removing the period dialogue, the true meaning of the film is even more evident. Uncle Remus is more of a wise old grandfather character, giving advice to troubled young boy (Driscoll) while his father is out of the picture. Jimmy's grandmother runs a farm, not a plantation, and it's clear that the movie takes place years after the abolition of slavery. There are disadvantaged white people in the movie as well as poor black children and little Jimmy would rather go play with his poor friends than attend an upscale birthday party his mother throws for him. Jimmy's grandmother never condescends to any of the workers on the farm, and she even shares an important conversation with Old Remus on her front porch. While the movie isn't perfect, the animated sequences are so good that the story being told almost gets in the way, it's still an entertaining film nevertheless, and my son, who is half black, enjoyed the movie as well, just seeing Uncle Remus as a nice old man that told stories. It's sad that a small but noisy group of activists want to convince the world that this film is something that it's not, without even allowing the public to view the film themselves and make their own decisions.
You would think the Diss-ney company (as I call them now) would stop doing this. Ever since they closed the Splash Mountain in Disneyland, their stocks have plummeted.
I want to go to Universal Japan to ride Jaws and now I will want to go to Japan yo ride splash we always want what we can not have.
Sometimes newer is not better.
(4:24) lives human skeleton "laugh"
[Japanese]Finally:Tokyo Disneyland getting better the end 2024 👏
"don't kills"
Insane... they ruined space mountain, and now they destroy splash mt?! I'd boycott them if I werent already doing it