How Every Saiyan Unlocked Super Saiyan 2 [Full Story]

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  • Ever wondered how every Saiyan unlocked Super Saiyan 2? Dive into the full story in this video and learn about the epic journey of each Saiyan to achieve this powerful transformation!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 365

  • @moodzi1322
    @moodzi1322  Місяць тому +23

    Hi All!
    If we can get this video to 1K likes I’m going to drop the Super Saiyan 3 video!

    • @androidtekashi402
      @androidtekashi402 Місяць тому +1

      1000th like so get on going with the SSJ 3 version lol

    • @trevorjenkins2176
      @trevorjenkins2176 Місяць тому +1

      You kindly left out Super Saiyan 2 Kale.

    • @NathanTariku-m5c
      @NathanTariku-m5c 2 дні тому

      i always get this form confused with super sayain grade 2

    • @trevorjenkins2176
      @trevorjenkins2176 День тому +1

      Maybe the hair? But SS2 and Ascended Super Saiyan or Grade 2 is less confusing because of the bulkiness of that form vs SS2 depending on character in that form.. Sometimes it’s easier to confuse Super Saiyan Vegeta between Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta because they look the same

    • @NathanTariku-m5c
      @NathanTariku-m5c День тому

      @@trevorjenkins2176 fair

  • @samuelwilson5465
    @samuelwilson5465 Місяць тому +35

    SS2 Gohan will always be my number 1 transformation. The build up was epic

  • @olaideolatunji9115
    @olaideolatunji9115 Місяць тому +30

    The fact that super saiyan transformation started from a legendary myth to a child's play 😢😅😂

  • @IsaiahWayne2104
    @IsaiahWayne2104 Місяць тому +155

    Super Saiyan & Super Saiyan 2 used to be a huge deal until the Buu saga.

    • @timinatr99
      @timinatr99 Місяць тому +2

      Correct

    • @jakxrenegade29R
      @jakxrenegade29R Місяць тому +14

      DB super makes everything obsolete.

    • @randybobandy9828
      @randybobandy9828 Місяць тому +12

      That goes for every power up until the next arc that adds a more powerful power up

    • @pinhe4d321
      @pinhe4d321 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@jakxrenegade29R 1. Buu saga is a part of Z
      2. Heck, SSJ and SSJ2 were still used in DBS

    • @jakxrenegade29R
      @jakxrenegade29R Місяць тому

      @@pinhe4d321 1. I know I started with the Buu saga and rewatched all DB & DBZ 2. Yeah, I know but the transformations have become a bit confusing (android 17 with equal power with ssj blue…)
      I think the original comment is referring to the fact that some transformations have become obsolete… even characters like Majin Buu were once a threat, but now…
      teven the previous versions of the SSJ… have become an itch on the back (universe 6’s Saiyan).
      They are still cool but in terms of power up they can’t keep up with god level enemies.

  • @adaezeejinkeonye7570
    @adaezeejinkeonye7570 Місяць тому +37

    My favorite transformation sequence was kid Gohan. It was so sad and exciting and it created a meaning to the transformation

  • @Ashcash95
    @Ashcash95 Місяць тому +22

    My favorite form, its just something about the sharper hair & aura with the blue electricity that is so cool.

  • @ILikeDoom-y2s
    @ILikeDoom-y2s Місяць тому +64

    Gohan, Goku, Vegeta, and everybody else with ssj2: worked hard and trained or got put in an intense situation
    Universe 6 Saiyans: hehe my back itches

    • @irenosenalenkhe1568
      @irenosenalenkhe1568 Місяць тому

      For fuck sake its only Caulifla

    • @weirdface1846
      @weirdface1846 Місяць тому

      only caulifla's dumb prodigy ass
      cabba got it as he's supposed to...

    • @bepbobbap
      @bepbobbap Місяць тому +2

      Goten and trunks:

    • @J0yceJ0star
      @J0yceJ0star Місяць тому +8

      ​@bepbobbap
      They didn't unlock ssj 2, they just had ssj because Goku and Vegeta's sperm had enough power level to make achieving normal ssj easy (That's literally how it works)

    • @randybobandy9828
      @randybobandy9828 Місяць тому

      ​@@irenosenalenkhe1568it was both the female Saiyans

  • @Joshvotd
    @Joshvotd Місяць тому +178

    "its just a back tingle right"

    • @thurmangreen676
      @thurmangreen676 Місяць тому +12

      As far as the univeres 6 sayians😅

    • @DigitalWraith
      @DigitalWraith Місяць тому

      ​@@thurmangreen676Didn't Caulifla talk to Goku about the back tingle, and he confirmed it?

    • @The_Black_Falchion
      @The_Black_Falchion Місяць тому +3

      I hate them so much.

    • @GojoSatrouZ
      @GojoSatrouZ Місяць тому

      In a way the back tingle is a way to use it but it's not the only thing that activates it anger and everything else is required caulifla was rught but the way she just simply transformed is bullshit​@DigitalWraith

    • @maasaigohardordieproductions
      @maasaigohardordieproductions Місяць тому

      Lmbo

  • @MikeJ-t4e
    @MikeJ-t4e Місяць тому +12

    Really enjoying the new editing style of these videos. It’s clear that you spent a lot of time editing this piece of art.

  • @45CdRo
    @45CdRo Місяць тому +7

    The fact that vegeta could transform at will proves he has had much experience with the form.

  • @dxguz1823
    @dxguz1823 Місяць тому +33

    SUPER DUPER SAIYAN...

  • @cashsage5064
    @cashsage5064 Місяць тому +7

    What a great video!

  • @shadowgoku6009
    @shadowgoku6009 Місяць тому +42

    When I was a kid I called ssj2 "spiky sparkling" super saiyan

  • @DavidEkpenyong-f1p
    @DavidEkpenyong-f1p Місяць тому +3

    over all this was another amazing video moodzi i like how you put so much depth and detail into the ss 1 and 2 cant wait for 3 even

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks! I’m glad you noticed. The next one won’t disappoint. Because we are going even further beyond!

  • @jg5004
    @jg5004 29 днів тому +3

    Fun fact, in the original manga only 2 ssj transformations were unlocked thru rage; Goku’s initial ssj1 and Gohan’s initial ssj2, the rest were all done through training.

  • @Kenjitsuka
    @Kenjitsuka Місяць тому +4

    Thanks MoodZi, Happy New Year!!!

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому +1

      Wish you a great 2025 ❤️

    • @Kenjitsuka
      @Kenjitsuka Місяць тому

      @moodzi1322 Thanks man, you too!!! :D

  • @animationz-t8l
    @animationz-t8l Місяць тому +3

    The fact he uses football and Dragon Ball makes me so happy as I'm a fan of both.

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому

      I often use football references lmao

  • @maxxwellrolland593
    @maxxwellrolland593 24 дні тому

    Well done bro. Fantastic video 🎉

  • @JamesMorrison-c8s
    @JamesMorrison-c8s 14 днів тому

    Love it. Perfectly reflects the headcanon I've had for years. Who'd have thunk dissecting and disseminating fiction would be so cathartic.

  • @DacioNerdTV
    @DacioNerdTV Місяць тому +3

    My favorite demonstration of SSJ2 is the battle between Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku. Blow for BLOW !! Greatest anticipated fight of the series. I'd still say its the best fight of DBZ. Honestly of the DB series in a whole. More focus on boxing than ki blasts. And they were also used to a minimum in that fight.

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Місяць тому +1

      Ssj2 Caulifla Vs Ssj2 Goku Is BETTER ! 🔥🔥💪🏽

  • @AhmedHussain-ju6xd
    @AhmedHussain-ju6xd Місяць тому +3

    Bros tempting the fans with that caulifa deisgn in the thumbnail

  • @scottybeats5328
    @scottybeats5328 Місяць тому +7

    18:13 another thing people forget.. this "Metal" was also used as the structure for the tournament of power, except the material was an even stronger than universe 7's. So all those moments where you see someone get clapped through a wall or boulder, remind yourself just how crazy that is.

  • @victimg8581
    @victimg8581 Місяць тому

    The GOAT is back at it again!

  • @abdlrahmanashraf
    @abdlrahmanashraf 22 дні тому +1

    Yes, Please make a super saiyan 3 video. ❤

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono Місяць тому +36

    Funny how Kefla can only go SS2 but Gotenks can go SS3

    • @user99i
      @user99i Місяць тому

      Metamorans are weird af.... I don't believe potara is stronger

    • @springytfk
      @springytfk Місяць тому +2

      When would they have had time to specifically train for ssj3?

    • @A107-v9e
      @A107-v9e Місяць тому +6

      Gotenks trained if you remember. Kefla didn’t

    • @M3rtyville
      @M3rtyville Місяць тому +4

      Gotenks trained at least.

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Місяць тому +3

      Gotenks Is Irrelevant Now , He’s A Trash Fusion . Caulifla Would BODY That Lil Boy ! 😂💪🏽

  • @adilogan
    @adilogan Місяць тому +13

    Teen Gohan unlocking SSJ2 is my fav scene in the whole series.

  • @kileaf
    @kileaf 11 днів тому

    My favorite super Saiyan 2 transformation is the same as yours with adult Gohan transforming at the world tournament such a badass scene and the music they use took it to a whole another level.

  • @chez.8333
    @chez.8333 Місяць тому +7

    Gohan was 11 at the cell games, and after 7 years later the show says gohan is 16 not 18 yrs old did anyone notice that?

    • @A107-v9e
      @A107-v9e Місяць тому +3

      Nope he was 9 in the manga. Or technically 10 due to HBTC

    • @parkerjunior1
      @parkerjunior1 Місяць тому +1

      He was 10 in 1/2

    • @Jay-i2s9l
      @Jay-i2s9l Місяць тому

      He was 11 he was 7 when trunks killed Frieza 3 years passed before the androids showed up and he spent a year in the time chamber

    • @tman1669
      @tman1669 Місяць тому

      Jap = 9
      English Dub = 11

    • @WTFHAX93
      @WTFHAX93 22 дні тому

      @@Jay-i2s9l He didn't spend a full year in the chamber. They exited early.

  • @Thisissirknight
    @Thisissirknight Місяць тому

    Love this video bro! Thank you!!!!

  • @peteskeet9443
    @peteskeet9443 Місяць тому

    Well done!

  • @BlessedOrri
    @BlessedOrri 12 днів тому +2

    No I’ve always believed that Vegeta had SSJ2 before the Majin Power Up he just wasn’t as strong as Goku with SSJ2 he even stated this that’s why he let babidi control him so he can get extra power to put him on par with Goku.

  • @jasonbakerjr9980
    @jasonbakerjr9980 Місяць тому +2

    “It’s got little zappy zaps”

  • @ShadyLizack
    @ShadyLizack Місяць тому +1

    SSJ2 is such badass look

  • @CyberMan__0
    @CyberMan__0 Місяць тому +1

    23:38 Whoa whoa whoa, I was about to like but I will NOT accept Rodri slander!

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому

      It was a joke 😂 I’m no Madrid fan

    • @CyberMan__0
      @CyberMan__0 Місяць тому

      @ thank goodness

  • @TaviusTV
    @TaviusTV Місяць тому

    More heat...as always!

  • @FangFrenzy
    @FangFrenzy Місяць тому +1

    I laugh when people don’t think Vegeta had ssj2 after cell. Just as Goku did. And when they fought, vegeta had making boost reserves just like Goku had ssj3 reserves.

  • @youngknowledgeseeker
    @youngknowledgeseeker Місяць тому

    Goku - literally had cheat code by being able to train with Gods + with a spiritual body for 7 years straight.
    Vegeta - Had to wait 7 years before literal magic, 7 years of pent up frustration and training, and a renewed sense of purpose finally let him unlock that form.
    Gohan - Was simply born gifted. At 12 years old, after a little bit of training, he had the genetic potential to be Ss2 at max power. It still took a year of training with maybe the best fighting instructor you could ever hope for + the threat of the world being destroyed for him to finally be able to access it.
    Dbs - Feel the tingle.

  • @adilogan
    @adilogan Місяць тому +1

    Please make a whole video on the Gohan and his power specifically. Include his transformations. He is a fascinating character I would like to know more about. I have seen all dragon ball series mostly but a video from you on that would be great.

  • @KJ-yn8pr
    @KJ-yn8pr 27 днів тому

    Teen Gohan had the coldest SSJ hair ever on the whole series

  • @jeankisaragi1502
    @jeankisaragi1502 27 днів тому

    Now i respect Goku for throwing that Senzu Bean to Cell

  • @ahmadgholami9044
    @ahmadgholami9044 14 днів тому

    Dbz may not be part of the top 3 but gohans ssj2 scene will by far be the best scene ever in all animes

  • @ogb8637
    @ogb8637 Місяць тому

    I love these videos

  • @johnpettiford6547
    @johnpettiford6547 Місяць тому

    8:15 100% the greatest reason to watch DBZ in Japanese was this scene. I still workout to the song that played.

  • @Qohsosmooth
    @Qohsosmooth Місяць тому +10

    "All three people " lol exactly, tell them to do more research because clearly we see the signs of vegeta being very confident in his ssj2 form before he seen kakarots. Once he seen it he needed to close that small gap so lets say kakarots power is 2 billion when he transforms, vegeta knew his was at 1 billion he needed to close that much of a gap,smh their powers were then equal in ssj2 once vegeta got that stamp on his forehead
    Edit: oh and one more thing.. "theyll love this one" .. remember vegeta unlocked ssj god on his own? .. welll thats all ill be saying lol

    • @MikeJ-t4e
      @MikeJ-t4e Місяць тому +1

      I know right😂 like why are people burning over something like this. It’s the same with people who are willing to die on a hill regarding Gohan not going ssj2 against Broly.

    • @Qohsosmooth
      @Qohsosmooth Місяць тому

      @MikeJ-t4e oh yeah definitely i remember the gohan vs broly thing lol

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Місяць тому +2

      @@QohsosmoothGoku’s The *KING OF ALL SAIYANS* 👑

  • @gilbertoortega3274
    @gilbertoortega3274 16 днів тому

    Oh, yes. The Super-Duper Saiyan

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono Місяць тому +5

    How these prodigies Goten and Trunks easily unlock SS1 but have yet to attain SS2? They’re like the only Saiyans that have yet to do so

    • @Umar-gw6fy
      @Umar-gw6fy Місяць тому +5

      Narratively they dont need it yet, maybe if we get them as adults and actually have them fight they might unlock ssj2

    • @thelarry383
      @thelarry383 Місяць тому +3

      For gohan, future trunks, goku, and vegeta, SS2 was attained out of necessity/hard training. Goten and trunks haven't had either

  • @Thisissirknight
    @Thisissirknight Місяць тому +1

    Visually goku’s SS1 was done better imo but the emotional buildup for gohan turning into SS2 still gives me chills. Both are so iconic but all of the comments from other characters about gohan going beyond SS also makes it awesome!

  • @toxicdota9290
    @toxicdota9290 Місяць тому +1

    Another visual sign for SSJ2 form is that their body gets significantly ripped & hair go from yellow to kinda orangeish.

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому +1

      Tell that to Cabba 😂

  • @ashleymartin3260
    @ashleymartin3260 Місяць тому +3

    27:58 Jumpscared. Didn’t expect to hear Bakugou as Cabba (never seen the dub)

  • @ShockingGaming
    @ShockingGaming Місяць тому +1

    You seem to ignore how SSJ2 Trunks was stronger/on par with SSJ3 Goku when they met and sparred.

  • @makaveli559m
    @makaveli559m 22 дні тому

    Vegeta did admit no amount of training could close the gap between him and Goku. I am sure he was already SSJ2 but when he saw a brief second of Goku's SSJ2 against Yakon he knew from that point that his SSJ2 form would still be no match against Goku.

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  22 дні тому

      Goku was basically a high tier ssj2. Or rather a full powered ssj2. Also his base form was probably ridiculous too.

  • @Musicaltariq777
    @Musicaltariq777 22 дні тому

    Teen Gohan....the ONLY SSJ2 that matters.

  • @mitchconner2021
    @mitchconner2021 Місяць тому +4

    I think Vegeta got SSJ2 before the Buu saga and he knew Goku also had it with the fight with Yarkon and that's why he let himself become Majin Vegeta to give himself a boost over Goku but he didn't know Goku already got to SSJ3 and that's why they were even. Vegeta transformed too naturally for it to be his first time using it against Goku.

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому

      Exactly! I wanted to say that Vegeta transformed way too smoothly for a first timer. But I know people will point to caulifla who achieved it like it’s nothing. That’s why I avoided using that point.

    • @randybobandy9828
      @randybobandy9828 Місяць тому

      We can assume that Vegeta didn't even know ssj3 was even possible.

    • @Gamerx23333
      @Gamerx23333 Місяць тому

      My thoughts exactly, but so many db fans are so delusional, like I'm not kidding, the whole cabba vs ssj4 gogeta, bunch of gen alphas

  • @LightingOfTheRedHawk
    @LightingOfTheRedHawk Місяць тому +2

    Daizenshuu stated that unlike Gohan, Goku and Vegeta got ssj2 with hard training, Vegeta had ssj2 at the start of Buu saga but he was weaker than Goku, thats why he needed majin boost to be equal to goku's ssj2

    • @BonkGoofMan
      @BonkGoofMan Місяць тому

      Hold up, he wasn't, its like vegeta vs android 18. Vegeta lost due to the 18's inf stamina, the same thing with goku, but he was stronger that time which compensated his limited stamina

    • @deckzone3000
      @deckzone3000 Місяць тому +1

      ​@BonkGoofMan
      Vegeta was weaker than Android 18.
      Vegeta was weaker than Goku.
      Majin Vegeta was equal to Goku.

    • @BonkGoofMan
      @BonkGoofMan Місяць тому

      @deckzone3000 I've given you at least some arguments. You just said the statements.

    • @deckzone3000
      @deckzone3000 26 днів тому +1

      @BonkGoofMan No, I gave facts.

    • @BonkGoofMan
      @BonkGoofMan 26 днів тому

      @@deckzone3000 prove your facts. Vegeta had less stamina, but not power. He was just attacking and she was passive but still was able to give damage to 18.

  • @aloudiara8675
    @aloudiara8675 Місяць тому

    Such high quality

  • @iCantPickaNamej
    @iCantPickaNamej 28 днів тому

    I always had the impression that vegeta already learned ss2 when he fight goku. Dudes been training non stop for 7 years. And his comments suggest he had it down.

  • @trevorjenkins2176
    @trevorjenkins2176 Місяць тому +1

    Through rigorous training, any Saiyan who had already reached Super Saiyan can achieve Super Saiyan 2 [such like Vegeta]. Of course since DBS really just pulled a "Twilight vampire movie" but used it on universe 6's Saiyans is the most absurd way of becoming Super Saiyan 2.

  • @jordanglasper1064
    @jordanglasper1064 Місяць тому +1

    Even being technical know Goku witnessed a glimpse of SSJ2 kid Gohan. in the hyperbolic time chamber. This was hinted within the manga. The anime showed us what it was that was hinted at.
    That’s why in both the manga be busy and the anime DBZ Kai master Corrine said this you know something hung Goku. That shows the implication that Goku witnessed go hunt in a potential both in the manga and in the anime manga gives reference to the head without revealing it. The anime actually reveals the reference and the heat. Critical thinking and common sense is rare.

  • @evandrochaves9596
    @evandrochaves9596 23 дні тому

    I can't wait for a universe 6 saga, heck I might finish my fanfic before that

  • @Tava
    @Tava Місяць тому

    the first time i watched Z as a kid i thought the lightning from ssj2 was the most badass thing of all time

  • @vintagemonte
    @vintagemonte Місяць тому

    showing love to the future TL >>>

  • @Almoststable1
    @Almoststable1 6 днів тому

    Vegeta allowed himself to get taken over because he knew how strong goku was and needed help. If he already had ssj2 he wouldn’t have allowed that to happen. By getting taken over it unlocked something in him that wasn’t there.

  • @reginaldremble2655
    @reginaldremble2655 17 днів тому

    Great video, but I gotta get you. You started the video saying it's based on the anime only. But then with Gohan actually first turning Super Saiyan 2 actually being in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber according to the flashback, it was less to talk about. So you used the manga to further your point when you said anime only. Love your content dude but definitely stay consistent with that as it isn't technical because canonically, that's what happened.

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  17 днів тому

      Perhaps I should have clarified in the beginning more when I said the “anime timeline” because this is a part 2 series. my previous video was about SSJ 1. In the previous video I constantly referenced the manga, which is important. It is the source material after all. My aim was less so to discredit the anime, and more so with saying when the form first debuted. And to be fair, the form was unlocked for the first time in the manga.

  • @johnnydoeshmoe3639
    @johnnydoeshmoe3639 Місяць тому

    words cant express how much i love Piccolo in the cell saga , and how much i love the cell saga smh maaaaaan i want the 90s back !

  • @cosmefulanito6854
    @cosmefulanito6854 23 дні тому

    While I do agree that it's just one possible interpretation, I do believe and insist that Kale and Kefla's SSJ forms are indeed the Legendary variant, since we've seen Kale's power grow infinitely. Kefla's SSJ forms being the Legendary variant would give a lot of sense to her absurd power. It was a fatigued Goku VS a fusion that's, on base, as strong as two SSJ2 warriors, but increasing pretty much every second, and then multiplying that x50 and x100. I think that's a solid explanation to rise from below a SSJ3 Goku to barely below UI Sign in just one battle. The fact that later on we get to see Broly go from below SSJ God to around SSJ GOGETA level makes this theory more likely to be true.
    That aside, I also belive the games call Kefla's form just SSJ2 because they DON'T want to mention the term Legendary Super Saiyan because it would make some people get confused and think stuff like Z Broly being canon and stuff like that.

  • @Keiyon95
    @Keiyon95 Місяць тому +1

    12:26 Make an argument? Its the reason that Vegeta went Majin in the first place. It also adds more to the narrative that pre majin vegeta unlocksd ss2

  • @wrednyszpon
    @wrednyszpon 8 днів тому

    Great move with adding Rodri BDor while talking about robbery

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  8 днів тому

      Lmao glad someone caught it. But I was joking btw.

  • @corbinselanne7990
    @corbinselanne7990 Місяць тому

    In fairness to Vegeta, the widow's peak might've had something to do with no noticeable difference on the hair

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому

      All hail the widows peak

  • @TurbineFlyer
    @TurbineFlyer 19 днів тому

    SSJ2 is my favorite form (other than SSJ god). A huge power increase without drawing too much energy and the hair doesn't go crazy

  • @tokamnich4709
    @tokamnich4709 7 днів тому

    Anyone who thinks vegeta didn't achieve ssj2 before the buu saga is delirious.
    Remember when goku achieved ssj, vegeta's pride couldn't handle it. He left and trained endlessly until he became ssj.
    Gohan is a child who became ssj2... vegeta wouldn't have stopped until he to became ssj2.
    You see vegeta training at the beginning of the but saga using bulma gravity machine. This was a hint that he never stopped training, and should let everyone know the truth.

  • @ryukthegodofdeath5906
    @ryukthegodofdeath5906 13 днів тому

    I hole heartedly believe that vegeta going majin is why he became ssj2 for the first time and was able to master it in quick succession, my main reasons are as follows yes he has his own will to fight goku, but ultimately babidi gives him a big push, his emotions towards fighting goku by any mean is what i believe allowed to go ssj2 and master in a quick time, vegeta even states to goku during there fight that hes been holding back and that he let babidi revert him to his old ways and showed him powers that he didn't even know he had, which means babidi legit made vegeta stronger by giving him drive and conviction, conviction to fight goku even stronger than what he is now. And during the tournament before the whole majin stuff they agreed to ssj transformation of any type, so even if vegeta had ssj2 he wasn't gonna use it.

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  12 днів тому

      Ssj2 Gohan (buu saga)< Gohan SS2 (cell saga) > Goku SSJ2 (Buu saga)
      Think of it this way. Vegeta had ssj2 but his base form wasn’t as strong as Goku’s, or maybe his ssj2 in itself wasn’t mastered. Vegeta didn’t need ssj2 to fight Goku, he needed his base power to multiply in order to fight Goku. Vegeta thought he would beat Gohan before they made the rule for not going super saiyan during fights. Also, if you want to argue base Vegeta is stronger than base Gohan, then that would suggest it’s highly likely that Vegeta unlocked the form

    • @ryukthegodofdeath5906
      @ryukthegodofdeath5906 12 днів тому

      @moodzi1322 that is highly untrue cause gohan already started on his slacking since the buu saga, vefore gohan got potential unleahed he couldn't take down soemone like dubura who was only a tad bit stringer than cell 7 years have passed yes vegeta has mastered ssj1 but if thats the case don't you think he would be training in ssj2 more if he had it unlockeded? Cause by than goku had already got to ssj3, an again babidi being a wizard that can increase streangth and heighten emotions basically pulled ssj2 out of vegeta unless i get something to tell me other than the fact that it says vegeta "trained hard" im not convinced considering that vegeta stuggles with the transformations a lot more than golu did, and heck stuggled a little but more than gohan, so im still under the opinion which i believe to be almost fact that babidi is responsible for making vegeta an ssj2 and helped vegeta master it just like that because of "vegeta's yo fight kakarot" and thats a drive you never underestimate with saiyens it makes them 10x stronger than they usally are

  • @Korre84
    @Korre84 Місяць тому

    You feeling it in your back right? You feel it? Yaaa

  • @dejansukurma6847
    @dejansukurma6847 Місяць тому +2

    Please make a ssj3 Video to

  • @danteshollowedgrounds
    @danteshollowedgrounds Місяць тому

    Oh yeah, I forgot this guy exists.

  • @deboking9
    @deboking9 Місяць тому

    I hate how these animators of super never refer to the artwork of the comics:
    Trunks’s hair didn’t look like that at ssj2. Thank you for the manga references

  • @TravisMckoy
    @TravisMckoy 29 днів тому

    Ok so aside from universe 6 ,to unlock ssj is the pain of loss of something they hold dear,friends,family,pride ,Id like to believe ssj 2 can be unlocked through liberation or absolution. Goku being fine with being dead, Vegeta finding the will to fight again, trunks saving his future, cell from realizing he survived his own self destruction, and Gohan being free to kill cell . It could be a stretch but it's my head canon 😅😂

  • @tokamnich4709
    @tokamnich4709 7 днів тому

    I like the buu saga during future trunks however it never made sense why babidi waited an additional decade to come forward.

  • @BerylliumGold
    @BerylliumGold Місяць тому

    "Thinking of you Goku..."

  • @samcarter2308
    @samcarter2308 Місяць тому +1

    Vegeta needed Majin to go SSJ2 because he knew he couldn’t beat Goku without it

  • @alishabazz7431
    @alishabazz7431 12 днів тому

    Vegeta transformed into SS2 easily and effortlessly like it was something he was use to. You don’t transform that easily on the first time ever. Plus a power boost doesn’t unlock new transformations.

  • @barryslayer5582
    @barryslayer5582 Місяць тому +2

    I hate to say it but even Kale achieved SSJ2

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому +1

      That was a controlled berserk form though. But I guess it’s labeled as ssj2 in some games

  • @DayinthelifewithDunnDunnTV
    @DayinthelifewithDunnDunnTV Місяць тому +6

    Gohan was 12 when he fought Cell. He Teen Gohan.

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому +5

      He was 9 in the manga

    • @kingsarverjr502
      @kingsarverjr502 Місяць тому +1

      Gohan was 11, actually. He had his 11th birthday before the Cell Games.

  • @TheGam1ngTr1ko
    @TheGam1ngTr1ko Місяць тому

    3:59 Beerus is a cat lol

  • @Im-just-a-dude-cuh
    @Im-just-a-dude-cuh Місяць тому +2

    wtf is that Caulifla image💀

  • @jerryfrazier8604
    @jerryfrazier8604 29 днів тому

    I don't think that he couldn't go ss 2 before buu saga, but I do think that it wasn't a master ss2. Based on how vegeta had talked to gohan before the tournament. He talked as if he had finally surpassed gohan as a super saiyan 2.he does that only when he has surpassed characters. However as a mssj2 he wouldn't have taken the boost to win against goku. He only did that once he realized that goku still had more mastery of ss2 than him

  • @taste_like_skittles3150
    @taste_like_skittles3150 7 днів тому

    They ruined the importance of super saiyan when they just gave it to the universe 6 saiyans🤦‍♂️

  • @MasterApoc81
    @MasterApoc81 27 днів тому

    you got it lol

  • @yannickwillems1991
    @yannickwillems1991 Місяць тому

    gohan will allways be numer one when it comes to ss2

  • @devaughnfranklin6683
    @devaughnfranklin6683 Місяць тому

    Next video: super saiyan 3 ( vegeta 😏)

  • @jg5004
    @jg5004 Місяць тому

    The whole Vegeta thing is weird to me. Vegeta was confident in his chances against Goku when he saw ssj1 Goku, it wasn’t until Goku went ssj2 against Yakkon that he decided to use Babadi. This means that base Vegeta = base Goku, ssj1 Vegeta = ssj1 Goku but ssj2 Vegeta < ssj2 Goku, since it was stated that Vegeta wasn’t on his level until he got the Majin power up. Or it means Vegeta didn’t have ssj2.

  • @bxnny5861
    @bxnny5861 Місяць тому

    ngl i think cabba is kinda valid with his transformations

  • @jagr06
    @jagr06 Місяць тому

    Allow me to retort; The anime flashback is Canon because without that understanding Goku would have NO reason to believe Gohan had an additional hidden power boost within him and would not have thrown his own son in the ring with the "Perfect" Being Named Cell. Therefor the Manga is incorrect in how it was written because it was going by false pretenses of other moments rather than seeing a glimpse into SSJ2 which Goku felt the power it was emanating even for a moment.
    So we can't just call it a filler scene when it wasn't a filler but a Canon Scene, fixing a mistake Toriyama made with the manga.

  • @deckzone3000
    @deckzone3000 Місяць тому +1

    There's a difference in the auras around SSJ and SSJ2. You'll have to look at the manga to notice it. The anime is very inconsistent with everything.
    Gohan first reached SSJ2 at the cell games.
    10:49 😅 Gohan did not dominate Dabura.
    13:30 Daizenshuu is non-canon
    13:48 Mastered SSJ2? No such thing.
    15:50 We never really see Gotenks as a SSJ2, because Toriyama forgot about it and thought the long hair + no eye brows form was SSJ2.

  • @dwightnorton3398
    @dwightnorton3398 Місяць тому +2

    I think the 3 had the a Power & Abilities as a ssj2 a bit

  • @sick8614
    @sick8614 5 днів тому

    Well according to Daima Vegeta mastered Super Saiyan 3 just by training himself alone......something not even mentioned in any Dragon Ball Super chapter neither manga

  • @patrickdoucette9585
    @patrickdoucette9585 Місяць тому

    Gohan vs Cell. 💯

  • @neito.m.6741
    @neito.m.6741 Місяць тому

    Nothing made me upset until I heard that "UltImAtE GoHaN" is on the same level as a ssj1 FUSION

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  Місяць тому

      Who said that

    • @neito.m.6741
      @neito.m.6741 Місяць тому

      You did lol. You said in the manga that ultimate gohan beat ssj Kefla in the manga. Not your fault lol.
      I just disagree with that writing. Ssg Goku stood no chance against base kefla, ultimate gohan is weaker than ssj blue, but he beats kefla when's she's ssj1. When in the show Kefla going Ssj1 was AFTER Goku went blue to tip the tides back in her favor. BUT gohan beats her in the manga??. Just doesn't make sense.

  • @mmatrunks8649
    @mmatrunks8649 17 днів тому

    7:00 Goku:Gohans 11?😮

  • @kelonpie
    @kelonpie Місяць тому

    I just want to take the time say while the back tingle method is pretty weak in the anime it does have enormous advantage compare to the traditional way. Think of this when you first awaken Super Saiyan, your body is engrossed with power that both ancient and overwhelming. Your attacks are 50x more potent and stronger than before. Not only that, it creates like a tunnel vision of focus in your mind like "I won't stop unless he's breath is snuff out" like when Goku fought Frieza. Dude was so focus on taking him out his sense of reason was long gone and the emotional impact it carries with that form is really frighten. But with the back tingle, all those negative effects and traits are reduced greatly. You have a clear head when fighting, the emotional and mental toll is lessen, and drawback of being very fatigued is reduced. I am not saying the back tingle method is great and in fact I wish another method was use as a substitute, but the way to attaining Super Saiyan during this way is still worth praised for taking away and negative impact of the form. People keep in mind than Universe 6 Saiyan are shown more peaceful than U7 and their worlds and ways while similar are still different.

  • @BlackSaiyan24
    @BlackSaiyan24 Місяць тому

    They shoulda made Vegeta’s SSJ2 look different from his SSJ.