SNEAK PEEK: Lisa Vanderpump Says Sandoval Is In A "Dark Place" | Vanderpump Rules (S11 E4) | Bravo
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- James Kennedy and Ally Lewber prepare to host their first party at their new house, and Lisa Vanderpump meets with Lala Kent and Scheana Shay to express her concern over the deep depression that she believes Tom Sandoval is in. Vanderpump Rules Season 11 Episode 4. Watch Vanderpump Rules Tuesdays at 8/7c on Bravo and streaming next day on Peacock.
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As a mentor and confidant to the group, Lisa is working to restore some peace between two feuding exes as she attempts to provide perspective. Lisa is refocusing her expertise on opening a new restaurant in Lake Tahoe and continuing her success with additional ventures in Las Vegas.
Ariana’s life was turned upside down after a devastating breakup, but she’s determined to make the best of a difficult situation. Although she still shares a home with her ex, Ariana is moving on and dating a new long-distance boyfriend. While working to open the doors to her and Katie’s sandwich shop, Something About Her, Ariana is embracing the countless opportunities that have come her way.
Recently proclaimed #1 guy in the group, James’ friendships within the circle are stronger than ever and his DJ career is booming. He bought a house in the Valley and is settling into suburban life with his girlfriend, Ally Lewber, along with their cat and a dog from James’ past.
With more distance from her divorce, Katie is exploring life as a single woman and dating, even if her pursuits strike too close to home for her ex-husband, Tom. A previous indiscretion comes to light and threatens to upend her and Scheana’s renewed friendship as well as her cordial post-divorce relationship with Tom.
Lala is still in the midst of a challenging custody battle, but being the best mom to Ocean remains her priority. Lala explores fertility treatments and looks for a sperm donor as a single mother. She finds an unlikely connection with Tom Schwartz, forming a friendship that neither saw coming, but creating tension between her and the rest of the girls as her forgiveness for the Toms grows.
Celebrating their one-year wedding anniversary, Scheana and husband Brock are struggling to connect as they leave the honeymoon stage and settle into their life with a toddler. Scheana works on new music as a way to express herself. She finds herself straddling the lines in the sand within the group as she navigates her relationships with her longtime friends, and feuding exes, Ariana and Tom.
In the aftermath of a scandal that changed his romantic relationships, dynamics within the group and the success of his businesses, Sandoval is working on bettering himself. In a fragile state, he focuses on repairing the foundations of his friendships. When he isn’t on the road touring with his band, Tom Sandoval and the Most Extras, he and Ariana live under the same roof ... locked in a stalemate for the house.
Tom is mending a challenged friendship after taking the heat for his part in his best friend’s shocking deception. Embracing a new identity, Tom bleaches his hair, evades exclusivity with a friend-potentially-turned-girlfriend, and winds up in a surprising love triangle with a new flame and his ex-wife.
Cast:
Lisa Vanderpump
Ariana Madix
James Kennedy
Katie Maloney
Lala Kent
Scheana Shay
Tom Schwartz
Tom Sandoval
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I watch too many crime shows to stay under the same roof as an ex 😂
haha, best comment! Everyone taking this fake show and taking sides is nuts. I take sides against mob mentality - especially when it’s hypocritical. Putting Ariana on this weird high pedastal is crazy too. She wasn’t as smart as everyone think she is if she was fooled by him and she’s very smart and talented if she played along to get where she’s at now :)
Lol Ariana made a shit load of money just get the hell out of the house and stop being the victim because you’re a cheater just like Tom is!!!
First of all narcissists don't Ponder deleting themselves. Sandoval is full of it. He just knew that was the card to play to gain some sympathy. And the fact that he would even say that knowing Lisa's past hurt from it, just shows how disgusting he is
Clock itttt
LVP stays forgiving the guys for their awful behavior but is always much harder on the women. It's annoying.
She was hard on Kristen and I doubt it had anything to do with Kristen’s relationships.
Tom Sandervol knows how to manipulate Lisa into feeling sorry for him. It's called "narcissist pity me manipulating". Tom knows Lisa lost her brother to depression...now Tom is manipulating her.
Tom is using Lisa without her realizing it to manipulate Lala and Scheana to feel sorry for him. BEWARE of types like Tom and make sure you know how to spot a narcissist and know what mind games & manipulation tactics they use otherwise you will be sucked into their con game like Kristin & Adriana was by Tom.
If you look back at how Tom broke up of Kristin and Adriana they are very very similar breakups. Tom cheated on BOTH and then created a narcissistic smear campaign against Kristin to make her the bad person and got Ariana to bully Kristin This is called narcissist triangulation and smear campaign.....sadly it worked. This is what narcissist do!! Thank goodness Adriana had good friends & a counselor to expose tom for what he is. Tom had aleady set it up for Rachel to hate Ariana & if Tom & rachel would have stayed together he would have triangulated Rachel against Ariana to fight each other while Tom stood on the side lines and laught at being able controlling everyone once again. I hope Kristin & Ariana compare notes of how tom treated each of them in the relationship and break up they would see Tom was their puppet master.
Now tom is trying to manipulate Lisa, the other Tom and others to change the narative of what really happend with his cheating scandal by attempting a smear campaign against Adriana with the viewers via Lisa. its NOT working the viewers are wise to his manipulation tactics.
Of all people Lisa should be very alert to con artist who use pity me manipulation. Does she remember that young foreign guy who lived in her guest & how he turned out to be a con artist and everything he did/said was a lie???
Narcissist will also fake that they are depressed or sick even going to great lenghts to say they have cancer by using pity me manipulation to con everyone !! BEWARE
No they are all cheaters including Ariana so whatever
@@starsky119 I agree with you the cast cheats on each other and tom is is bad guy?WOW he needs a new set of friends.
@@mauriciovaladez7912 He needs to be a friend first.
Ariana was in a bad place mentally at LVPs birthday party 2nd to last show of the season I find it ironic that noth Sandoval and Rachel are now saying their mental health has suffered from the fallout of Scandoval Neither one of them gaf about her mental health they were too busy messin with Katie and her mom as Lisa consoled Ariana What was their plan if Ariana didnt find the video??
Honestly, him having suicidal thoughts is his karma after he tried to weaponize her mental health against her by lying and saying that she threatened to kill herself.
Thank goodness Ariana did find the vid and find out about the affair because no doubt tom would have turned the tables and made Ariana the bad person just like he did to Kristin when he cheated on her.
@@jansmith3158 I agree It seems the women are always to blame and these baby men get a pass especially from LVP Kristen was made to look crazy and Jax was the #1 guy even after Faith
I don't know how much longer I'm going to be able to watch these hypocrites on television
Ariana being the main one ugh!
She literally hooked up with Tom while he was dating Kristen.
Ariana the main one cheater as well with Kristen Doute ms boyfriend
Yeah the Tom’s are disgusting
NOT HER GETTING THE EXACT SAME LYFT DRIVER AS THE ONE FROM THE NIGHT OF THE AFFAIR THATS CRAZYYYY
No one working harder this season than the Toms trying to get everyone to pity them. Damage control to save their businesses and reputations.
yep. Keep in mind also Lisa has a motive to get the group to let Tom back in to save Tom Tom bar which Lisa & Ken are investors in!!!!
He is absolutely not doing that. I love how he blocked Scheana when she reached out. That little overly dramatic, self centered narcissistic moron. All of the girls on the show are major narcissists, and they are trying to blame the guys on that. Especially Lala and Scheana.
What Lisa doesn't understand is that the reason why he keeps getting hate is because he keeps playing the victim. Was he upset that he got caught? Yes and that is the only reason he's upset. Tom is manipulating everyone he can right now. He may say the right words but his actions shows his true motive.
Possibly, but Lisa can’t take that chance just in case his depression is genuine. She’d never forgive herself.
no he doesn't. he is just telling his side of the story, and if you have any brain, it's completely believable. but you don't.
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i I agree that she needs to take him seriously but she also defends him when she shouldn't. She is not taking into consideration the hurt and pain he has caused everyone else.
@@sevenofnine2233 Tom has lied over and over again, so it's really hard to believe anything he says. He used Ariana's mental health as a weapon against her. Tom shows every sign of being a narcissist and narcissists don't feel the same emotions as everyone else. Also there is no need for insults. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that but have no right to make it personal.
Everyone in the LA party scene knew Sandoval was partying and sleeping around during this time period - but sure, let's go with this suicide storyline to gain sympathy 😂😂.
On the same line, Ariana knew too and has played her story line to the hilt. It’s all so fake
Lisa rallying for Tom when Tom gaslights everyone… yeah he made his bed
She doesn’t want him to get so low that he hurts himself. What’s wrong with that? They’re torturing him. People have done worse things. Jax was awful and this relentless cruelty didn’t happen to him, did it?
He's clearly a liar. A bad one at that. He can't go around saying he's in a "dark space" while continuously trying tear down his ex. Maybe if he took some accountability for the shit show he created he wouldn't be in the mess he's in now. -_-
. He still has a business... he still has a social life... just not with them. Saying you don't want to hangout with them is not torture. As well as saying you will harm yourself if they don't hangout with you, is manipulative. If he is feeling that way, he needs to seek help, not put himself on reality tv to be judged by viewers even more. Mental Health matters but he has done nothing to better himself. @@user-fq8rs7rz3i
Depression and public ridicule being weaponized to disregard and accept someone who is harmful to the people in that group is a tactic narcissists and sociopaths use to get away with shit all the time.
If he feels that bad he really should actually apologize and change behavior. You don’t get a free pass to hurt people and say, “i’m hurt by your reaction to my bad behavior.”
Lisa wants everyone to get over yet she walked away from RHOBH because they said she plantef stories about the dog Lucy Lucy apple juicy that Dorit adopted She tells everyone Oh he didn't kill anyone Get over it yet years later she's still hating on the women who outed her for setting up stories Hypercritical
They’re both narcissist what are they are yapping about. Scheana was literally outed on another show for sleeping with Brandi’s man. Lala can’t play stupid after admitting to being a mistress.
I was trying to formulate those feelings in a sentence, then I saw your comment which is spot on, so now I don't have to. Thanks.
Well said.
This 👏👏👏👏👏
Yesss 👏🏽the whole cast is so hypocritical.
Yes! AND their reactions were SO over the top - the only thing that is real about this show is the mob mentality it generates, which is one thing I can’t handle. That’s a lot for anyone to take. Almost anyone on reality tv has to be some kind of narcissist to do what they do or a very smart opportunist/entrepreuner like Kandi Burrus and some others
If Tom is depressed (and I'm not convinced he is or if he just said that to the person he thought he could manipulate with it), he's depressed because of what people are saying about him. Not about what he's done.
Not convinced? He looks a mess. Plus Rachel left him as well. He lost lost. He is miserable.
@@kelseywillow8110 Not convinced. A lot of people look a mess. A lot of people are miserable. He's not thinking "I've ruined my life." He's thinking "I just want to move on. I said I'm sorry, why can't we just move on! OTHER people have done horrible things too!"
@@kelseywillow8110 And his best friend died. People are so disgusting and lacking empathy when it's needed the most, no wonder why there is so much suicide in the world. Lisa knows what she's talking about as she lost her brother to depression caused suicide.
@@sevenofnine2233you are a sucker if you believe that just because his friend died he's in a dark place and would want to off himself. He's using his friend's death as a way to gain sympathy and to excuse his bad behavior that happened before his friend died . If you even think he would consider deleting himself, you haven't been paying attention and don't really understand these characters. A narcissist has to use other people's experience and try to replicate those emotions to gain sympathy, and for several other reasons. This is that case. Time is a douchebag and he is so wrong for what he did and for trying to gain Sympathy by saying he's in a dark place knowing Lisa's past. He's disgusting
@@sevenofnine2233also his best friend didn't die. Tom Schwartz is still alive. Keep up
Ummm…Lisa refused to film with RHOBH cast mates when they questioned her and has never moved on from it! Toms actions and the things he has said since the affair was exposed he has never apologised for. To be sorry you need to tell the entire truth, hide nothing and hope that you can be forgiven one day.
He’s apologized, he cheated he didn’t kill anyone.
Yeah Lisa still throws Kyle under the bus every chance she gets. She should take her own advice
Tom really dog walked Lala about her situation to turn around and do something similar but much worst.
It's not worst. Lala broke a marriage
Dude, Ariana dont leave that house until yall mutually agree on the sale. Be careful. That house is worth more than 3 million! This dude has no remorse. The only thing he feels bad about is getting caught.
Well she has to pay bills then
She will pay the bills when he shows her receipts. You know, the same way the rest of us are shown and given receipts. Are you telling me you go around paying money out to people just because they have SAID you need to pay or owe a certain amount? Use your brain
Well at this point it's pre-recorded and she has already moved out.
He is just emotionally manipulating Lisa by bringing up suicide since he knows her brother died that way.
Good for Lisa for recognizing depression and not even taking a risk of doubting it. She did the right thing.
Tom is conningLisa. And, now he is trying to con the viewers.
Remember Lisa is TomTom bar business partner with tom & tom. She has a vested interest in everyone letting Tom back into the mix and have the bar finically recover from Tom affair fallout.
Lisa has a agenda just like Tom. beware
No she fell for the Okie doke. Tom knew how to play on her sensibilities and she had to take him seriously because if she didn't she would look like a demon. He is playing her and he does it often and she often goes along with it. She gives him more grace than she's ever given anybody else. There's something about each time that she lets their bad behavior fly and hold other people accountable. He's not in a dark place. He's pulling the wool over her eyes
Ally always looks annoyed by James, but at least we all know it's because she is using him for a free place to live!!!!
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I was wondering when someone was going to mention that. She’d definitely working hard for that money and 5 min of screen time lol
And fame. She’s gross.
Summer moon is way too old to be on a bottle
I can't wait for when Ariana tells Sandoval off in the kitchen infront of Lala saying "Ruin my life, my home & attempt to kill my dog! My LAWYER will be dealing with you!"😂
I just want to say that people have done worse things than cheating. Yes he f* up but at this point what they’re doing to him is too much. I can’t stand the duo Ariana and Katie and if the whole season will be them making snarky comments and having a “I am better than you” attitude all the time, I think I’ll pass.
Lisa and her beautiful flowers
I think Lisa's view is a little skewed because of what happened to her brother. She is probably scared he would make the same choice, but I truly feel Sandoval enjoyed the constant attention good or bad
Sandoval playing the victim. Stop!
Same to Ariana and the women as well. They’re all the same - the mob mentality just shifts depending on the epidose and day
So unfair to Tom Schwartz
It's sad how many heartless people there are in the world. Tom hasn't been taking care of himself or eating and doesn't want to be bothered by anyone. When LV asks him to come by and she sees how empty his expression is and his clothes a hot mess, she rightfully starts to worry about his well being. When he tells her he's been thinking about ending his life, Lisa lets the group know. Lala and Schaena begin to realize that Tom hasn't done anything that calls for him being alienated from the group. For anyone who feels that Tom's behavior is a game, Ask yourself if you could live with the fact of turning on the news and hearing that Tom Sandoval took his life? It's time to let this bullshit go. Nobody deserves to be alienated against the world because Arianna wants to use it and the viewers to destroy Tom. I'm just saying 😢
He could just leave. He's entirely to privileged and well off to be in this bad of a position. He clearly has friends still outside for this group, its not like he can't change career paths or find a new way in life. He is choosing to remain in an environment that does not care about him. He needs help but not a single person on this show needs to be the ones to do it and if he were to take his life at this point, it is not because of the behavior of this cast bc they all knew what they signed up for.
@@christopherjohnson4896 ....1st I want to say without scaring the fuck out of you; My son Michael Christopher Johnson, lost his life 3 years ago, because he was denied seeing his kids. He drank so much that night because he was depressed and the girls called and told him they loved him, which made his day. To make this long story short; He got up to grab the liquor bottle, and fell through the glass table his step-dad had given him, cutting his wrist and bled out. My daughter found him 15 minutes later and it's been hard but we're healing. Let me explain where I'm going with this: When Arianna got her cookie ate by Lala while Tom was driving, that was IMO cheating. When Tom was in a relationship with Kristen and everyone knew that Arianna and Tom were messing around; That was cheating. Both Arianna and Tom have cheated, so it's not right to judge Tom so harshly for his indiscretions, when Arianna is just as vindictive. Sorry for the book. Have a great Evening.
Ariana in her confessional powdering her entitled nose whilst speaking on Tom is such a turn off… 😒
I think it was a double meaning watching him in these after show interviews hahaha
Sandoval.
Deflect. Projects. Gas lights.
idolize, devalue, discard all the women he is in a relationship with.
Same to all the cast members on this fake show. At least he made them a ton of money
Aly looks like she only in it to be on TV
Exactly!
Wrap this storyline PLEASE BRAVO! Find a new casts or end the show if you can't end this storyline! Ariana hates Tom so.much that ,she still had a picture of them on the wall.
The whole cast has done some dirt.Tom messed up his life not theirs. Ariana didn’t want him anyway. The cast needs to get over it.
What he did was awful and wasted her time. He didn’t want her
She checked out a few years ago and Tom knocked himself out trying to make her happy...
@@RealGoneDamewhat show are you watching because you’re making up bullshit
you mean A FAKE SANDWICH SHOP lol lol
omg the fact that it was the same lyft driver as that night is so funny!
THIS GROUP NEEDS TO STOP. They all got something from this. Everyone came up because Tom cheated
I completely understand Lisa being concerned about Sandoval; but, she has no right telling Lala and Scheana to reach out, they aren't friends. Kyle and Schwartz can be there for him.
thank you for posting this!
Wheeeew Lala and the tone with LVP
Seeing Katie and Ariana as besties is just so weird to me lol
Yeah it’s pretty lame ,they all have to have a piece of that pie ! Even LaLa had a piece of Arianna pie and that was right in front of Tom while he was driving , If that’s not cheating what else would you call it ? Tom just had to except it and he didn’t look particularly happy about it either! Face it Ariana does what ever she wants when she wants , Such double standards.
You find genuine friendship to be weird? LOL
@@theedspage in this instance, yes lol
As someone currently watching season 5 for the first time, same
@@theedspage Some people can see better then others , These people would throw their best friend under a bus if there was something in it for themselves .
Are we gonna keep going back to Tom cheating. There's no other storyline?? Nothing???
Bravo can do the correct thing and fire BOTH Sandoval AND Schwartz. That alone would immediately improve the program.
Tom was right she sent the condolences so she could say i reached out when his friend died...... She dont care. I think at this point they love the money and publicity and have lost so much in return. I hope the show ends this year so they can all find some peace of mind. I use to love this show. It was about friendships and forgiveness and growing. But now its just depressing.
Please, without Toms, story line, they don’t have a show…it’s so utterly boring…Dj in a small restaurant, bartending in a valley bar…ok…😂
Well then they don’t have a show. I’m not watching these poor woes as me Tom’s! They are disgusting.
Sell the house Tom
I think people need to realize Lisa lost her brother to suicide. I believe Tom is/was depressed and he doesn’t show to the other cast members and other people. Everyone has come at him left and right, justified, and a lot of people hate him. All of that would take a toll on anyone’s mental health. Lisa is worried from her past with her brother and just doesn’t want to see Tom end up like her brother.
Sandoval comes across as a narcissistic, selfish moron. His sense of arrogance and entitlement "knows no bounds". He doesn't show any real empathy for those he hurt and his attempts at apologies are so lame and insincere. Its always about him him him and poor him and yet when those closest to him try and give him advice he reacts with anger and defensiveness. Time for the man child to grow up.
EXACTLY 💯!!!!!
Bingo! And Scheanas role in this is disgusting.
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i Totally.
Last season we only had scandoval at very end of season and reunion...its gonna have to finish playing out this new season, and this started filming about 3 mos after affair broke. But yeah, social media was on fire 🔥 for a long time and still is
All of them are so gross. They swap partners left and right. Smh.
Of course he is in a bad place; I don’t get how Ariana can live with him in one house.
I don't get why she's there either. Tom wants to buy her out but she won't budge, but she's willing to sell. Either way she has to move. She just doesn't want him to have the house, which I suppose when you think about it is part of the power play.
Tom's house of card fall down...he created the collapse. He is manipulating Lisa. Lisa cant see this.
@@janetskelley8555 why should she move out of her own home? How about the scumbag Tom move out and she buys him out?
It’s so interesting that Tom the narcissist is calling ANYONE a narcissist. Tom is manipulating Lisa because he knows about her brother.
Tom is getting what he did to himself. sorry that's plain and simple at this point
Can't stand Ariana, Tom is so right when describing her. She thinks she is better than everyone.
They need to stop acting like they have never done anything, we all get it he messed up but the way they treat him is just not ok.. ariana plays the victim card way to much already
It's because Sandoval always tells everyone what to do. Mister morality police. That's a part of it. Plus he's annoying af
Lisa’s not fooling us. She’s more interested in business profits than these friendships. She’s a brilliant content-creator, and always stirs the pot in her favor.
People shouldn’t give Lisa any sh*t for what she’s saying. She’s genuinely concerned about his mental health and she’s probably worried he might self harm or worse.
was thinking the same thing.. Tom really played her on this one, using her weakness when it comes to suicide and Mental health
She’s got unprocessed trauma from her brother’s passing. Sandoval is not the same person around her. She needs to stop enabling him. Rather, encourage him to see his own therapist and actually do the work.
She just can’t take the chance that he may be lying.
Last Season (season 10) was suppose to be the last season of VPR, and even if it had come back Ariana would not have (at least not in a main roll) cause producers thought she was boring AF! Now because of "Scandoval" the shows been saved, & Ariana's career couldn't be doing better. . . . Now her WHOLE STORYLINE is being mad at the Tom's, which she can't be that upset if she's still living with him. My point is that without the drama of Scandoval Ariana's a pretty boring person, and now she thinks she can tell people who they can hang out with. Lets not forget that Ariana got with Tom while he was with his EX Kristen Doute, how can she be so self righteous when she did the exact same thing. . . . She really is giving "ick" with her personality this season!
Not only that, she’s now STEALING while Tom pays the mortgage and bills, and she pays nothing. It’s utterly bizarre how most of the public were duped into thinking she’s great? She’s not a nice person!
couldn't have said it better myself@@gottalovetheinternet
@@gottalovetheinternet Exactly. And not to get too deep but this is why our country is where it’s at. People are more invested in taking sides in any kind of fake drama instead of caring about solving important problems. I hate mob mentality and people believing fake stuff depending on how good the marketing is. It’s entertainment and supposed to be mindless fun. And this high platform people are putting ick (totally!) Ariana is gross. It makes no sense. If she didn’t know exactly who Sandoval was then she’s definitely not as smart as people are saying she is. Or she is because she totally capitalized off it and they can be grateful to Sandoval for all the money he made them. Lol
Can we wrap up this story line?
I love James lol 😂
I genuinely don’t understand what they genuinely want from Tom Sandoval. He’s already said he’s sorry, and that he f***** up. He’s been harassed, assaulted, etc. because of cheating. Read that again… harassed and assaulted because he CHEATED. Almost every woman on the show has cheated at some point, and all of the guys. Why was none of this energy given to any of them? It’s been almost a year since this happened. People need to move tf on already.
I'll make it easy for you: (1) Try to be a decent human being, (2) genuinely apologize to Ariana, Rachel, Kristen, and the other women he's hurt, (3) own up to what he's done, (4) help his BFF Schwartz run their bar instead of abandoning him, and (5) get therapy so he learns from his mistakes. No excuses. Make a real effort. Make progress.
Michelle....It's sad how Tom is being alienated. He done nothing Arianna, who has always felt like she was above the entire group.
If there's one thing these comments tell me it's that we are all so invested in these strangers lives and perceived personalities 😅
I'm NOT! But I will comment about them cause they are on a ' Reality tv'! They get paid to air their personal business.
Everyone stops to watch the train wreck.
Right?! It’s supposed to be an entertaining guilty mind numbing pleasure but now it’s getting super annoying because of mob mentality and how seriously everyone takes sides. It reminds me of politics where no one understands facts vs fiction and they just want their “team” to wi no matter what. Sorry I’m just depressing myself but the energy feels the same. Ugh! I know I watch for makeup, hair and clothes and to numb out but it’s not working anymore lol
Why does Katie seem always super focused and balanced, which is great. She needs her own show on HGTV or being a commentator on something. She hasn't profited as well as some of the others on endorsements etc.
What are you talking about?? Katie is the ultimate mean girl bully..Look how she treats Schwartz..
@@marhar1172 Schwartz is the absolute worst. He couldn't even bartend for 20 minutes, couldn't stop getting wasted and making out with everyone, was constantly gaslighting Katie and avoided being a grown up at every opportunity. If you go back, you'll see a lot of red flags. Katie wasn't perfect but she's had to deal with a man child for years and suffered from a traumatic brain injury and Tom never once had her back.
Sandoval is a dark place. Narcissist always are soulless creatures who only love themselves.
Sheena stole the housewives Brandi‘s husband! She literally was the other woman so who the hell is she to judge?
What Tom did was wrong but it doesn’t make him a monster! Everyone needs to leave him alone. Enough is enough
If your best friend, sleeps with your partner in your house. Keep that same energy
@Shay416 I know what happened. Read my comment again. The trolling needs to stop.
Lisa arranging flowers while talking to the girls is so silly 😂
People forget Lisa vanderpump's brother killed himself she's big on depression. She doesn't want anybody to feel like that
Sando knows this and is playing her... He doesn't care about anything other than his image, he doesn't have enough respect to give his girlfriend of 9years space... Eff this dude
This episode Tom is talking about being a outsider in his group of friends . He literally says '' It's always the one's closest that hurt you the most ''
Let that sink in
Adriana took zero accountability for her part in their relationship falling apart. Not that Toms cheating was justified at ALL, but they had problems way before the affair happened. Adriana never mentions that she did anything but be the victim.
Also, Lala is a narcissist. She ALWAYS brings every conversation back to herself. It's annoying
Sheana looks insane and alien like with the veneers, fillers and ozempic. She was so naturally gorgeous
The whole cast has a history of acting selfishly. They just need to offer blanket forgiveness to each other. The only way people can move forward from the ego deflation of feeling like a selfish person, is to wipe the slate clean and do better the next time, if they truly still want to be connected to you. There is no point hammering away at people, because it doesn't help.
How you get them is how you lose them.
I'm sure I'll get hate for this BUT.....Summer Moon STILL drinking a bottle???.....💅
They all cheated.
It's not just a matter that he cheated. It's who he did it with. How long he did it for, which was 7 months of lies. Where he did it, which was there home and when he did, like after her baby girl Charlotte died and her grandmother. It's also the fact that he refuses to take complete accountability and blame everyone else. Also Katie hasn't cheated and if Ariana just kissed Tom after he lied to her about him and Kristen being broken up in Vegas before the show even started, that doesn't make her a cheater either. Tom is a proven liar. He still lies to this day. Trusting anything he says, you should take with a grain of salt. He simply just can't take full accountability. He thinks everyone should get over it, without putting in the work. When it happened to Kristen and to some extent Jax they took it and tried to atone for their wrongs. They also even really didn't play the victim. Kristen did a little but she knew she was in the wrong and Jax never played the victim. That's the difference.
@@nicolegough2828 it’s a show and if Ariana had no idea then she’s not as smart or intuitive as everyone thinks she is. Or she’s super smart because she capitalized this (entertainment reality!) show in the best way possible.
Sell the house Tom
Fr like when Jax slept w Kristen literally same thing just Jax got cleared of all charges lmao but yet it's so "different" when it comes to Sandoval? 😂😂😂 this shows turning into a complete joke
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Lisa is an enabler.
Of Sandoval.
She always has covered for the guys on the show Its sickening
Ariana is weird and idk why everyone rallied around her. She talked down to Tom like he was her child. She didn’t want to have kids, he did. She didn’t want to get married, he did. She was forcing him to change and sacrifice so much. He has dreams too, and y’all weren’t compatible. Even now she won’t move out and move on.
“Let it go.” Elsa, “ice queen.”
Mannnnnn this is all I been thinking !!!!!!
She cut him off in the bedroom too.
Then he should’ve broken up with her! He knew she didn’t want kids before he decided to buy a house with her lol. Making excuses for cheating is so freaking weirding. Ariana has been nothing but honest about her beliefs about marriage and children from day 1- he manipulated her into believing he was willing to put kids/marriage aside to be with her
She cut him off in the bedroom because he didn't satisfy her He bragged in season 7 how he always pleased her and she told him that wasn't true instead of discussing it he kept denying it was true His fragile ego couldn't take it Maybe Ariana should have cheated on him since he couldn't satisfy her? Most people would try to figure it out but Toms in denial about everything!! No matter what he does he blames others or deflects He's 41 time to grow up Stop using Shrooms and adderall it's not just alcohol that's fried his brain
@@prima-madalina he tried breaking up and she threatened to off herself. Why would he make that up? Clearly it’s true by the way she clings onto the house still.
I still don’t see why this show hasn’t ended? The cast is so over it and it truly shows. I want more young people who bring real drama LOL southern hospitality is feeding some of that but I want more of that and less of this bs they try to shove down our throats.
She needs to get over herself! Ariana thinks she is the Queen. So many been cheated on and they move tf on! Katie been annoying she goes where the wind blows. They talk about Sandoval every episode!
This group is so hypocritical. They all cheated left and right... yes some cases hurt more then others.... but they are no better than Tom. Get over it.... Instead of making his life miserable. Is he is not the one for you... break up.... but this PETTY Mess in the house is soooo childish
Tom? Is that you on a fake account??😂😂😂 Hey buddy!
😂it becomes an issue when you get to a certain age and still cheat, when every1 in the friendgroup is trying to become responsible adults.
Ariana is that you? @@michaelshinners6847
Totally agree!
Shut up
She look like she eaten a couple jean jackets to be fair
Scheanna does not seem to understand - She & Brock made fun of Tom Sandoval on her Podcast. It really hurt him - and was mean spirited when he is already hurting. Why would he be ok with that? Unbelievable.
If his in a dark place then get off the show and look after his wellbeing.
She is such a PICK ME!!
Katie is always so zen and calm. Love it 😍
You’ve got to be kidding. Katie is the cruelest of the lot. Right now she’s clinging to Ariana hoping it makes her look good. It doesn’t.
Tequila Katie?
Nothing zen about that one!
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i Totally agree. She's probably on edibles, that's how she's so "zen".
She's a barnacle clinging to Ariana since Kristina and her mommy are gone.
I'm glad Lisa's wisdom realized what is going on with Tom Sandoval. How dumb all the other ones can be to not understand that. Seriously guys, you are extremely superficial.
They are all cheaters trying to pretend like they are saints now😂😂
I stated this in a comment before and sorry to repeat BUT my ex-husband, and this is why he is my ex, had an affair with my cousin. Shame on him, shame on her and we had a small son at the time. So what's worst, being cheated on with a friend or family! I am not sticking up for Tom because he has to come down a couple of notches, he is just to into himself BUT does anyone remember when he was driving and Arianna got in the back seat with Lala and they were intimate. So she cheated too!!!!! So who knows what affect that had on Tom. No respect! How about they all just take a break and just concentrate on yourself for awhile. It didn't take Arianna too much time to now be in another long relationship. And Lisa, they way they sometimes talk to her is disrespectful. They should remember if it was not for her they may still be living and dressing the way they use to. Anyway, Happy Valentines Day to you all.
A family member is worse! That you are able to empathize with Tom is proof that you are a good person!
That you so much for your reply. In today"s day & age you don't know how people are going to respond to a statement. There is so much negativity and I don't like to put it this way but too many "KARENS" They have to come up with a male name for those type of "KAREN" males. Just joking but not. I have always tried to look at both sides. @@user-jv6pj8vk6b
All this happening to Ariana has changed her it’s made her a diva to me acts like she above most her cast mates I hate all this happened to her
She's always acted above everyone. That was the cast's main complaint about her and Tom as a couple. They lived on their high horse. Now she's just up there alone.
those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. this group is unreal. they think we don't have memories. lala is delusional when she says she took accountablity and says now she didn't know he was married or she should have asked more questions. she bragged about how she couldn't say his name he was married she would call him my man. then when he cheated and lost his money and she left then she became the victim. so who is she kidding. scheana slept with a married actor she had an affair with him that broke up brandi and his marriage. james cheated on raquel with lala. they are all a mess and have messed up. ariana has moved on and yet still wants to make tom pay and have everyone against him. her arrogance is obnoxious. i get he hurt her and what he did was messed up but this never ending ganging up and revenge isn't healthy for either of them. for all of them to jump on the bandwagon just tokeep themselves in the limelight is gross and self indulgent. how much you want to bet if this wasn't lining their pockets they wouldn't even care they would have been over it months ago. imo
Casa Kennedy would be a fun time 🎉😊❤
Only for a while.
Love you Katie! And you are absolutely gorgeous ❤
Let’s be honest. The show is nothing without Schwartz and Sandoval. This group is clearly trying to push them out. Not a smart move bc the show will get canceled quickly.
Lisa needs to learn about narcissism, that's the only way she will know what Tom is doing!
Sandoval just telling it like it is about lala...she kept Randall out of the show for a long time. She knew what was going on with him...give me a break. She knew what was going on with Sandoval and Raquel...so she obviously knows how to pick up on signs/potential signs
They ALL need good therapists let’s be real
katie's confessional look is the exact same as kyle in rhobh
I've been skipping some scenes bc is boring.
$2k for a pool party!🤦♀️
It included a new Bar BQ.
Doesn't he make more than 10K per episode?
James has an American twang or is that just me 😂
I get why they live in the same house . But why the huge print of then together bewteen their bedrooms ?! Must he a production thing
Take a shot, every time one of them says, like. Beyond annoying.
Well I have Something positive to say for a change. I like Katie's Jean top , I would wear that
I think everyone’s over that Arianna hype, her egos a little bit out of control. She got cheated on won’t be the first Bravo celebrity and won’t be the last
They’re all hypocrites
Lets just stop. Cheating is bad its awful but it is not a crime. 90% of the cast have cheated and non have had the stardom Ariana has had. This witch-hunt is stupid
Funny she's pushing lyft after just being endorsed by uber and did that whole uber one commercial!!