How can it be abuse if the person willingly & knowingly consents to everything that are entailed to that situation? This sounds like avoiding personal responsibility for one's actions. If I know that I would possibly be sexually abused and/or exploited, I would certainly reject going into that situation completely.
@@dariuslester8756 ofc personal responsibility plays a part, but it's important to look at people's material conditions which will heavily influence what choices they will make.
@@dariuslester8756 capitalism exploits us daily, yet we willing participate in it. Why? Because we have to survive. Knowing that you’re exploited does not negate your dependence on a system you’re enmeshed with. It does not mean you deserve abuse.
@@dariuslester8756 Just because society accepts that a thing is OK, doesn't mean that it's not also abusive. Those two things can both be true at the same time. Society, at one time, thought that it was OK to send your children into the field to work long hours without pay around dangerous machinery and adults. All of these things could have (and did) result in serious problems in individuals, while society as a whole benefited. As we learned more about the system and situations we'd created we found that it wasn't OK to let society continue to benefit in this way because the human cost isn't acceptable, in fact society benefited more by not doing things that way.
I'm glad you pointed out that women are at risk of sexual abuse in all areas of life. That really is the issue. The visibility of women in entertainment gives the impression that they are more at risk than other women in other forms of employment.
Yet when women have a choice they do exactly what men was doing I mean look at the onlyfans on top it was women in those days had a trill being around deez rappers and used there body too gain access too deez rappers now like all women cry foul when she reflect smh yet the whole time it was deez women's choice
As long as it's BW being exploited, abused, and slandered, nobody cares. Also, the concept of "snitching" in the black community needs to be addressed because abuse is maintained when people don't "snitch".
Kendall facts! There is woman called Pamela de barres she was groupie of the 60’s and 70’s sleeping with many rock stars. She came out with her book “I’m with the band” and “let’s spend the night today” she wasn’t given half the heat karrine got.
My thing about Karrine is it's extremely toxic in my opinion to make money, cache', rent, cars, etc. sleeping with these celebrity men most of whom you knew were married/ in a committed relationship & then tell about it after the parties over.....It's like if I knowingly committed a string of robberies and other crimes and when I was caught decided instead of taking the rap by myself getting to take probation by telling on all of my powerful friends.
lol its good that she tours the current top makeup influencer and food magazine channels to clean up her image because between ANTM and The Tyra Show...Life Sized is the only thing keeping her from being completely "cancelled"
It's crazy how BET played "Tip Drill" and Marques Houston's "Naked" like CLOCKWORK on BET Uncut, but they BANNED Ciara's Ride video for being "too provacative" despite the fact that she was mostly clothed and doing *actual* choreography (not clapping cheeks for rappers).
@@Imxel21y’all don’t want women to be sexualized but want women to be sexually provocative (market their sexuality for fame, views, etc.) at the same time?! Nah, you can’t eat your cake and have it too, unfair, perhaps but true 🤷🏽♀️
@@ninananoased on interviews I've seen of here and industry men speaking in her apparantly she held back a lot of more damning information. She said that there were things she saw that she could've mentioned but choose not to because the story was about her life and experience. Apparantly the men were grateful she didn't paint a full picture of their grimy low down behaviors.
women like her have paved the way for others to have the strength and confidence to do the same. i love the shameless “i said what i said” energy. especially as someone who has experienced assault and rape multiple times; as someone who recently started being publicly loud about a prominent doctor who raped me…. i need these women’s stories. they remind me who tf i am, and that i deserve to be heard.
I don't care what anybody says, she was an icon. Love when girls drop all the T. Women are discouraged from being open and honest about their bad or sketchy experiences with men. She has courage. And before the metoo movement. I have respect for that
Absolutely insane the way Black women's experiences are STILL downplayed and grounds for controversy while the men responsible see no criticism. I was talking shit about dababy and someone asked me why Megan keeps getting mixed up with the wrong men. Excuse me?? How is it her fault that someone else S H O T H E R? Sad to see the exact same shitty ideas STILL hanging around. As a side note the "trips to walmart are like trips to a mall" line ☠☠☠☠ i just feel seen in the worst way
It’s her fault that someone shot her because she made the decision to be around reckless people with guns. I’m not saying she deserved to get shot but what I am doing is looking at the role and power that she had. If we take the position that everyday we make a choice as to who has access to us, Mentally, emotionally, physically then we can see how the only things that happen to us are the things we allow to happen to us. If you get in a car you assume the risk of being on the road in a car. We choose to get in the car knowing that there are risk. If you do research on the safest car. Then do research on the company you keep to remain as safe as possible. Btw I have nothing against Megan. There is just to sides. The part you can control and the part you can’t control. And trying to control a man is a waste of time. It’s not about downplaying but rather finding out how to regain power in the situation without wasting energy on someone that ultimately will not lead to long lasting change. If she fails to analyze how she got in that mess she’ll continue to get mixed up with those people. Id rather spend that energy into leveling up then trying to downgrade someone, no matter how stupid their actions. There no growth in playing the blame game.
@@georgejessi9769 already did and I’m helping myself and if I need to I’ll get more help. But I’m two steps ahead of you with the help thing. Been there, done that, and actually really enjoyed it. What was your experience with help like?
@@georgejessi9769 while getting HELP I learned that I can’t control anyone else’s actions. I can only control my thoughts, which feed into my feelings, which feeds into my behavior. It’s called the cognitive triangle. ellensocdblog.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/thoughts-feelings-behaviours-the-cognitive-triangle/ What have you learned from getting help? I’d love to hear.
"The consensual participation in a flawed system does not cancel out abuse" a WORD. As always, the immense effort that went into this is so clear to see, thank you for your work!
We need more women exposing how to better mothers, sisters, and aunties so that dating a RAPPER isn’t even attractive anymore. This really all started because karin’s mom was abusive and neglectful. I wish the beauty shop was reading about how to foster healthy self esteem and love amongst young girls. Its too many women that tell me their mom never told them that they LOVED them so they looked towards the streets for love. It would be lit if we had the same energy toward figuring out why it’s so many girls who don’t value themselves.
@@starcherry6814 True, your right, cause she could have been out there doing stuff for free. but I would bet that her whole journey was started because she had low self esteem and didn’t value herself. Se* work is just work for her because she made the best of her situations and embraced it. But you’re right, making money off your body means that you do put a value on your body. Do you think if she had the choice to be used and abused all those years or not that she would? If s*x work is just work how come mothers always say “I want better for you then this life style?”
@@leighm Women end up in abusive relationships all the time regardless of their occupations I'm not sure if you read the book or even watched the entire video before leaving these comments Steffans doesn't regret sleeping with rappers for money. She feels quite accomplished. We know that from interviews and her book. Many of the clips are in the video and you can see for yourself
@@starcherry6814 you are absolutely right women in all situations can fall into abusive relationships. I don’t think I ever ment to say or said that she was abused because of her job choice. Women that repeatedly get abused more times then not are operating for a certain mindset regardless of their occupation. I read the book (years ago )and listen to the whole video. To me the book came from a place of alot of pain AND pride. I never once said that she was ashamed of how she got her money or that she should be ashamed. What I commented on was that I wish it was cool and popular to have the same amount of energy for the healing as we do for the gossip and messiness. Where is the growth in gossip? How do you truly “level up” when the focus isn’t on self. She might not be “broken” now but she admittedly came out of some dark places (drugs, bankruptcy) And by better lifestyle. I didn’t mean the glamour and the money or to be ashamed of getting money from your body. But if it wasn’t a struggle she wouldn’t have anything to write in her book. There most definitely are two perspectives on her story like the author of this video mentioned. Cautionary tale or Tell-All? Guess it depends on how you look at it.
Ah, so the woman was dragged through the mud and the men walked away unscathed. Shocking. You're so articulate and your videos are so visually appealing!
That Charlemagne interview with Buffy was cringy indeed!! I know she went through a lot with those men being natural and dark-skinned. She showed out in those music videos though.
I think the most important question on this is why these men are never punished. Why is Chris Brown still walking around with one charge of abuse or rape after the other. Why is TI even allowed to be near let alone have children. Why are so many singers and actors allowed to abuse women and girls and this society still has a problem punishing these behaviors? But I maintain when it comes to rappers it's all in the lyrics. I believe in freedom of speech but beware of the words one is using. In the majority of Hip Hop, what are women called. The B-Word, which was originally fostered on Black women to give white slave owners an excuse to rape them because they were beneath dogs. Or hoes, sluts, prostitutes. How many hip-hop songs do we have where women are just called "women" or "girls' or even "female." Remember a few years back when people were dogging Google because when a photo search was done for nasty names pictures of black women came up. Everyone was blaming the algorithm (because people do not understand how an algorithm works so we can blame everything on it.) I NEVER occurred to a single person it's how we are labeling photos, videos, and the lyrics. Black men, and too many Black women, use these words in photo descriptions, captions, and song lyrics so when a search is done for "hoe" and you find Black women, click on the picture. I promise you that there is a caption or meta-data that has those labels on it. My overall point is, if you can call people out their name constantly, you won't have respect for them physically. Is it any surprise that rappers, who have no good words for Black women end up being abusive? Slave masters thought of female black slaves as the B-word, so they raped and abused them from childhood until they got old. Rapper's default word for women, especially black women, is the B-word, so we pretty much get what we pay for on that.
First of all these are all allegations as far as from TI there's no actual definitive proof so why would you lock someone up and you don't have any proof as far as Chris Brown goes that was just an incident that happened one damn time in trying to heal and grow from that situation the question is why do we act like people can't make mistakes why do we act like people can't grow from their mistakes at the end of the day everything you here ain't always true. Just like when Chris Brown actually had had an interview where he talked about him hitting Rihanna he even said in the interview that she didn't first but the question is why the fuck does she feel the need to hit him first why do you feel entitled that you can put your hands on somebody don't give a fuck about your gender the point I'm making about is both Gender need to make accountability
@@trublacking8572 And you’re a reason why these monsters get away with there crimes. Mind if I block you. Don’t answer, it’s going to happen anyway. Bye.
I was in the AUC when Spellman told Nelly to kick rocks. That was a wild moment in time. It's interested to see how attitudes have changed forward and back on that moment.
Her book wasn’t perfect but she was brave and tried to start a conversation that needed to be started. I was screaming at the Lil Wayne part I cannot 😭💀 I loved this explanation and analysis, you’re always a fantastic video essayist.
sexual abuse in childhood leading to sexual promiscuity in adulthood is a convo we still not even really having today let alone someone bringing this up back then...
Hyper sexuality is often a trauma response. It’s well known within the CPTSD community. The fact that people are surprised by this is evidence of how much education is needed surrounding Trauma and trauma culture.
Buffie the Body (Buffie Caruth) was in ATL. It wasn’t a Mandela Effect LOL! She played Big Booty Judy and threw the house party and was dancing with Esquire (Jackie Long).
I was obsessed and wanted to be a video girl when I was younger. I had Confessions in middle school lol. She was ahead of her time with this and opened the door for the Kat Stacks and Celina Powells of the world. I'm still ready for a real Me Too hip hop movement.
I loved hearing your commentary! They had a documentary on BET, but a lot of those women had hella internalized misogyny, making their commentary insufferable. These chicks completely overlooked the blatant misogyny that they’ve all experienced and continue to endure today, yet they made her the bad guy. I too believed that Karrine gave the most misogynistic guys in her book a pass. I personally feel that while her book was more sensational than cautionary, it represented everything we knew about the industry. Too many of those girls were trying too hard to be respectable, yet they weren’t.
But also consider we’re looking at 2000s Tyra with 2020s eyes. If you have asked me as a late teen in the 2000s what I thought of sex workers, I would have said some horrible things. Now I know better.
I know this isn’t about the video but I was a victim of sexual assault by my friend. I was a virgin before he assaulted me. He also threatened me and my family and blackmailed me too. When I called the police, they told me “ boys will be boys” and ask if I’m sure it’s not just a “ sex thing we did “. They said they didn’t have enough evidence so my case went nowhere. I fell into a deep depression after that and even experienced suicidal thoughts. I had to go to therapy because of that.
It's interesting how much Nostalgia there is for the early 2000s kind of a crappy time for anybody who wasn't a really skinny blonde girl and even then they weren't doing too hot #FreeBritney. But like the music scene is just rife with sexual exploitation
I mean, I have sentimental feelings for early 00s hip hop/R&B because it takes me back to being a kid in middle school. As a 30 year old adult, I still love the music and fashion but recognize how problematic a lot of the shit was back then.
Same for the Bollywood music industry, with some of its most notorious movers and shakers being infamous producers like Anu Malik, Mumbai dacoits and insanely screwed up billionaires like Mr Mukhesh Ambani and his brother Anil of Reliance Inc fame.
Finally a video that fully covers this topic, trauma, misogyny, racism internalized misogyny, sexual assault and how the hip hop culture exploits women and the work that still needs to be done to address it, as well as the healing. Thank you.
Trauma is long lasting, I.e epigenetics. I hope that she can fully heal. I had NO IDEA these models were paid so little. But it’s really not surprising.
I never pass up one of your videos, even if it's something I'm not interested on the surface because I always learn something new. Highly entertaining, thoroughly researched and documented, clearly presented with humor and insight. What's not to love!?
I loved this video. Charlemange was already trash but to hear him berate Buffie for no reason made my blood boil. I am pissed at the level of disrespect these women got but that was never the same hate given to Tawny Kitten and the rock vixens. The mysognoir was strong in all the reactions.
The part about misogyny existing in all spaces and it being violent, on top of feeling shame about one's own developing body.... that was puberty for me. You captured how I felt during that time before I had the language. Thank you so much! I'm so glad young women growing up now ain't putting up with it, but the fact that they still have to says volumes.
Well done documentary. I did music videos in the 90’s and 2000’s and those sets could be scary. There would be 5 or more men aggressively trying to have sex with you. And the models would always pair up with each other. You would never go to the bathroom without another girl with you. A very famous white rapper’s casting director told all us black models none of us would be a feature girl, because he won’t feature black models. Sexual harassment was allowed and expected. Only on urban sets did I receive that type of misogynistic treatment. BET still owes me money for a promo I did for Cash Money Records🤣
This video is so good. I love how you highlighted that people are more outraged at the fact that she named names instead of the facing the horrific acts that she went they. They are all basically saying "yeah she was treated like shit but naming people, that's a no no"
I dont know how many times my jaw dropped watching this video. it's crazy when you're growing up watching these videos and not thinking too much of it, to learning about how these girls were treated and looked at. very informative!
I was just explaining the world's progression from ignorance living with baby boomer parents and how much the world has changed in my own lifetime as it pertains to women's rights and rape culture to my kids. My only hope is that we continue to grow intellectually and further our sex specific rights because while we are more aware, only the methodology of our misogyny has changed, the mode has stayed consistent. Thank you for yet another great video!
I know this isn't the point, but I still feel compelled to say that purple looks *so lovely* on you. Also, this video is so good! One of the things I find hilarious (and sad) about the thing with Karrine Steffans is the amount of people going "Hey, you're addicted to celebrity" ... by celebrities who assume they should maintain the positions they have, as if they aren't addicted to their own fame. Honestly, that kind of thing just keeps happening, though; it's still so common that clout-chasers being accused of something also accuse others of chasing clout.
It’s so weird but it feels like when She talks about Wayne She talks about the only person She is willing to go to as a secure place and She never really had a secure place even though He ain’t safe at all..
I’m ashamed to say I was probably 12 or 13 when I got my hands on a copy of this book. (Parents definitely had no clue. I changed the cover with another book 😩) I would love to revisit as a 27 year old adult with a very different perspective than then.
It's little steps like the release of this book that help in breaking the spell of patriarchy. Tons of people, especially men, need to be held accountable for what they did or else no justice can happen.
Lord have mercy, not LIL WAYNE, lol. That caught me off guard. Thanks for making this video! Like you, I was young during this era so a lot of this controversy flew right over my head.
honestly, i should just show my sister your videos because she just doesn't seem to understand how toxic and awful things were in the 2000s. not that they were all bad. but like, sis will go on and on about how "things were simpler back then" and i'm just like......???? no, they weren't. you were just a teenager back then, and you're still dealing with trauma from that period bc of how pervasive it was
I am not Black myself, but the trend of lighter-skinned women being singled out to represent Black beauty in media such as movies and music videos has always bothered me. Especially the tendency for the woman to always be the significantly lighter-skinned partner when you look at heterosexual Black couples in said media. It reinforces our cultural association between lighter skin and feminine beauty and darker skin with the lack thereof, which is the foundation of a lot of the colorism you see out there. It's a major reason why, whenever I make art or write stories depicting straight couples of the same ethnicity, the girl is usually the darker-skinned partner if there is a skin color difference between them at all.
I usually don't comment, but stumbled across this channel recently, and I have been binge watching videos. I love the content and editing, and I love the fact that (mainly black) women's issues are being discussed without turning it into outright man-hating. Love our beautiful black women. Also hope we continue to remove stigma associated with sex workers.
Pretty much she was ahead of the times! I admire her for her bravery for doing this because everything was done “behind closed doors” especially in the hip hop world! I bet many other video girls were doing the same thing but kept it on the low but yet were the main on judging the actions of Karrine! GREAT video! 👏🏽🙌🏽
I sent this video to my friend cause I knew he would enjoy the analysis. He has never seen your channel before and his response was "oooh I like when pretty women tel me things" i thought that was very fitting considering the video content
Thank you for pointing out the whorephobia in P valley. I like the show but this made me uncomfortable but it shows the reality, a lot of women didn’t work on their internalised misogyny.
I’ll be honest. I’ve been learning a lot about my own misogyny. I’m hoping you keep videos like this coming out. It really helps me with understanding what my wife and other women especially black women go through
This was beautiful ! I read this book when i was like 15 and could not put it down ! I think I will reread as a 29 year old woman with different eyes !
But she tried to make her look like she was crazy or something and she put Tyra on blast in front of public talk about I heard everything about you too
@@AvonnaVentura lol I did some research and you might be right. He did cheat on her, not sure if it was with Karrine, but when Tyra looked at Karrine she saw the women whom that ex had cheated on her with. Apparently on that same Tyra show episode with Karrine she was crying reminiscing about the relationship so yeah she was emotional and felt like blaming someone
Whew chile!!! The early 2000s was so foul in a lot of ways. S/o to you for revisiting & shedding light on this era. I was is was in middle school & high school around that time. Being a black girl in those formative years was most definitely challenging & traumatizing as hell (especially being fully developed like I was, SCARY times). This also made me think of those slut-shamey “expose” pages kids used to make about girls who were so-called hoes or “jayers”, as my then peers would called them. Shit was so crazy. Anyhow, so glad you pointed out all the exploitation, abuse, misogyny & double standards that was clearly going in that industry, & all industries for that matter (& still unfortunately).
Nothing insightful to say myself because you are amazing with the insight, and nuance and research and also aesthetics. You do a great job and you deserve way more attention.
Great video !! Learned a lot thx. Patriarchal norms are connected to culture which is connected to class- black women have less power relative to black men relative to white men snd white women because the class dynamic creates a stronger patriarchal hierarchy. Most people think it’s about “culture” but culture is just how people live in the world. So class and material realities shape culture.
I feel like now is a great time to revisit this book and the interviews that followed and her treatment throughout it all. She was really she’s of her time considering what all happened IMO. I’m glad you made this video because I grew up in this era and used to watch these videos thinking the girls always looked so glamorous and had it going on, but like you said they all looked the same kinda like they do now. And I remember some of the convos that used to be had when the book came out and I feel like in today’s world people would be more open to giving her the space tell her story. Because now they’d call it her “telling her truth”
This video is truly, truly great. However, in the future I think it would be helpful to put some content warnings (sexual violence, drug addiction). It's a valid response to say "that's implied by the subject," but that added dedicated moment of heads-up is helpful to people with trauma triggers w/o much added time/effort. It gives people who don't want to engage w/ content that's potentially triggering an opportunity to exit. And they can at least enjoy *some* of the video.
Why is nobody talking about her hair? Like OMG it is everything. Now, I’m biased toward the colour purple, but regardless that’s the best hair I’ve seen in a while.
I lived in Memphis, TN in middle school and S. FL in HS during the late 90s and early 2000s and l remember being obsessed with Kerrine Steffens and Melissa Ford. I thought they were so cool and smart and beautiful. The abuse by the industry went over my head. I'm glad they told the truth and lived unapologetically.
I grew up during this era and was definitely would’ve thought very differently about women like Karrine than I would now so I’m glad things are being spoken about now. Having watched this and another video on the same topic it’s interesting to see the men involved really thinking they’re saying something by disparaging Karrine whilst entirely verifying everything she was saying. Great video!
I’ve been very interested in Karrine’s story lately, and then I learned that she was also a perpetrator of abuse. Still, I’m glad she had the courage to expose some the predators in the industry.
UA-cam presented this video to me unexpectedly, but it surprised me. The writing was well done and presented professionally. It informed and captivated me. As for the topic, SH's life, book, and personality are dysfunctional. The interesting part is that she has done what was necessary in her mind to come to terms with that dysfunctionality. She has taken control so that her intrenched dysfunctionality does not pull her over the cliff. Human nature never ceases to amaze me.
You produce exceptional work, deftly conveying your sentiments about the chosen topic while maintaining a focus on its broader social significance. And you do so in a truly enchanting way!
The content was great and I love your tone! I was thoroughly interested the entire time! Content was greatttt💓👍🏾 and that shade to Sistah Soulah was TEA This is real journalist work
A new Intelexual Media video is another reason you deserve 1000 times the views & subs you have right now. Always so indepth & creative with how you produce them. Also a fantastic watch alongside Khadija's vid on this topic from 2 months ago
"The consensual participation in a flawed system does not cancel out abuse" PREACH 🙌🙌🙌
How can it be abuse if the person willingly & knowingly consents to everything that are entailed to that situation? This sounds like avoiding personal responsibility for one's actions. If I know that I would possibly be sexually abused and/or exploited, I would certainly reject going into that situation completely.
@@dariuslester8756 ofc personal responsibility plays a part, but it's important to look at people's material conditions which will heavily influence what choices they will make.
This!
@@dariuslester8756 capitalism exploits us daily, yet we willing participate in it. Why? Because we have to survive. Knowing that you’re exploited does not negate your dependence on a system you’re enmeshed with. It does not mean you deserve abuse.
@@dariuslester8756 Just because society accepts that a thing is OK, doesn't mean that it's not also abusive. Those two things can both be true at the same time. Society, at one time, thought that it was OK to send your children into the field to work long hours without pay around dangerous machinery and adults. All of these things could have (and did) result in serious problems in individuals, while society as a whole benefited. As we learned more about the system and situations we'd created we found that it wasn't OK to let society continue to benefit in this way because the human cost isn't acceptable, in fact society benefited more by not doing things that way.
Karrine was not having sex by herself. I don't understand why these men are mad. Alot of these men were predators.
Garbage defends trash
I'm glad you pointed out that women are at risk of sexual abuse in all areas of life. That really is the issue. The visibility of women in entertainment gives the impression that they are more at risk than other women in other forms of employment.
THANK YOU!!!
Yet when women have a choice they do exactly what men was doing I mean look at the onlyfans on top it was women in those days had a trill being around deez rappers and used there body too gain access too deez rappers now like all women cry foul when she reflect smh yet the whole time it was deez women's choice
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As long as it's BW being exploited, abused, and slandered, nobody cares. Also, the concept of "snitching" in the black community needs to be addressed because abuse is maintained when people don't "snitch".
MESSAGE!!
that's deep
Kendall facts! There is woman called Pamela de barres she was groupie of the 60’s and 70’s sleeping with many rock stars. She came out with her book “I’m with the band” and “let’s spend the night today” she wasn’t given half the heat karrine got.
But what if it’s BW doing it?
No one is forcing them.
My thing about Karrine is it's extremely toxic in my opinion to make money, cache', rent, cars, etc. sleeping with these celebrity men most of whom you knew were married/ in a committed relationship & then tell about it after the parties over.....It's like if I knowingly committed a string of robberies and other crimes and when I was caught decided instead of taking the rap by myself getting to take probation by telling on all of my powerful friends.
Tyra just becomes unlikeable annually, it's like a subscription 😳
Lmao! For real 😂
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lol its good that she tours the current top makeup influencer and food magazine channels to clean up her image because between ANTM and The Tyra Show...Life Sized is the only thing keeping her from being completely "cancelled"
It's crazy how BET played "Tip Drill" and Marques Houston's "Naked" like CLOCKWORK on BET Uncut, but they BANNED Ciara's Ride video for being "too provacative" despite the fact that she was mostly clothed and doing *actual* choreography (not clapping cheeks for rappers).
I didn't know that BET banned Ciara's video. The hypocrisy...SMH
Different eras more than likely different producers
Whaaaat
@@naturally.eccentricnah it’s just misogyny
@@Imxel21y’all don’t want women to be sexualized but want women to be sexually provocative (market their sexuality for fame, views, etc.) at the same time?! Nah, you can’t eat your cake and have it too, unfair, perhaps but true 🤷🏽♀️
She's bold and courageous for naming names. Karine said, "I'm not playing with y'all.'"
Honestly surprised that she named names and came out intact
@@ninananoased on interviews I've seen of here and industry men speaking in her apparantly she held back a lot of more damning information. She said that there were things she saw that she could've mentioned but choose not to because the story was about her life and experience. Apparantly the men were grateful she didn't paint a full picture of their grimy low down behaviors.
women like her have paved the way for others to have the strength and confidence to do the same. i love the shameless “i said what i said” energy.
especially as someone who has experienced assault and rape multiple times; as someone who recently started being publicly loud about a prominent doctor who raped me…. i need these women’s stories. they remind me who tf i am, and that i deserve to be heard.
She's old school name. Names are keeping on the playground.
I don't care what anybody says, she was an icon. Love when girls drop all the T. Women are discouraged from being open and honest about their bad or sketchy experiences with men. She has courage. And before the metoo movement. I have respect for that
Definitely respect for the courage! Thanks for watching
An icon for hoeing? LOL!
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I see how you were raised.
@@brooklynbred1460Well.
Absolutely insane the way Black women's experiences are STILL downplayed and grounds for controversy while the men responsible see no criticism. I was talking shit about dababy and someone asked me why Megan keeps getting mixed up with the wrong men. Excuse me?? How is it her fault that someone else S H O T H E R? Sad to see the exact same shitty ideas STILL hanging around.
As a side note the "trips to walmart are like trips to a mall" line ☠☠☠☠ i just feel seen in the worst way
It’s her fault that someone shot her because she made the decision to be around reckless people with guns.
I’m not saying she deserved to get shot but what I am doing is looking at the role and power that she had.
If we take the position that everyday we make a choice as to who has access to us, Mentally, emotionally, physically then we can see how the only things that happen to us are the things we allow to happen to us.
If you get in a car you assume the risk of being on the road in a car. We choose to get in the car knowing that there are risk. If you do research on the safest car. Then do research on the company you keep to remain as safe as possible.
Btw I have nothing against Megan. There is just to sides. The part you can control and the part you can’t control. And trying to control a man is a waste of time.
It’s not about downplaying but rather finding out how to regain power in the situation without wasting energy on someone that ultimately will not lead to long lasting change.
If she fails to analyze how she got in that mess she’ll continue to get mixed up with those people.
Id rather spend that energy into leveling up then trying to downgrade someone, no matter how stupid their actions.
There no growth in playing the blame game.
@@leighm you are part of the problem get help
@@georgejessi9769 already did and I’m helping myself and if I need to I’ll get more help. But I’m two steps ahead of you with the help thing. Been there, done that, and actually really enjoyed it.
What was your experience with help like?
@@georgejessi9769 while getting HELP I learned that I can’t control anyone else’s actions. I can only control my thoughts, which feed into my feelings, which feeds into my behavior.
It’s called the cognitive triangle. ellensocdblog.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/thoughts-feelings-behaviours-the-cognitive-triangle/
What have you learned from getting help? I’d love to hear.
@@leighm girl go to bed
"The consensual participation in a flawed system does not cancel out abuse" a WORD. As always, the immense effort that went into this is so clear to see, thank you for your work!
Thank you for watching! ❤️
We need more women exposing these rappers
Confessions of a Video Vixen was the ish! Everybody in the beauty shop was reading this book
We need more women exposing how to better mothers, sisters, and aunties so that dating a RAPPER isn’t even attractive anymore.
This really all started because karin’s mom was abusive and neglectful.
I wish the beauty shop was reading about how to foster healthy self esteem and love amongst young girls.
Its too many women that tell me their mom never told them that they LOVED them so they looked towards the streets for love.
It would be lit if we had the same energy toward figuring out why it’s so many girls who don’t value themselves.
@@leighm I think Karine Steffans absolutely values herself.
S*x work for her is just work.
@@starcherry6814 True, your right, cause she could have been out there doing stuff for free.
but I would bet that her whole journey was started because she had low self esteem and didn’t value herself.
Se* work is just work for her because she made the best of her situations and embraced it.
But you’re right, making money off your body means that you do put a value on your body.
Do you think if she had the choice to be used and abused all those years or not that she would?
If s*x work is just work how come mothers always say “I want better for you then this life style?”
@@leighm Women end up in abusive relationships all the time regardless of their occupations
I'm not sure if you read the book or even watched the entire video before leaving these comments
Steffans doesn't regret sleeping with rappers for money. She feels quite accomplished.
We know that from interviews and her book. Many of the clips are in the video and you can see for yourself
@@starcherry6814 you are absolutely right women in all situations can fall into abusive relationships. I don’t think I ever ment to say or said that she was abused because of her job choice.
Women that repeatedly get abused more times then not are operating for a certain mindset regardless of their occupation.
I read the book (years ago )and listen to the whole video. To me the book came from a place of alot of pain AND pride. I never once said that she was ashamed of how she got her money or that she should be ashamed.
What I commented on was that I wish it was cool and popular to have the same amount of energy for the healing as we do for the gossip and messiness.
Where is the growth in gossip? How do you truly “level up” when the focus isn’t on self.
She might not be “broken” now but she admittedly came out of some dark places (drugs, bankruptcy)
And by better lifestyle. I didn’t mean the glamour and the money or to be ashamed of getting money from your body. But if it wasn’t a struggle she wouldn’t have anything to write in her book.
There most definitely are two perspectives on her story like the author of this video mentioned. Cautionary tale or Tell-All? Guess it depends on how you look at it.
Man they were so presssed over that book, which was weird to me because rappers always kiss and tell
They only kiss and tell with white girls
^not true. Karrin said they kiss and tell about black women too on her appearance on Lala's The salon podcast under the name Elizabeth ovesson
It's about control. When the man has control of the narrative they can spin it how they please. They can't control it when it comes from a woman.
@@JukuduB the #metoo movement begs to differ
@@elleofhearts8471because it’s a double standard when it happens to white women it’s always poor her if it’s a black woman she must of asked for it
Ah, so the woman was dragged through the mud and the men walked away unscathed. Shocking.
You're so articulate and your videos are so visually appealing!
That Charlemagne interview with Buffy was cringy indeed!! I know she went through a lot with those men being natural and dark-skinned. She showed out in those music videos though.
I think the most important question on this is why these men are never punished. Why is Chris Brown still walking around with one charge of abuse or rape after the other. Why is TI even allowed to be near let alone have children. Why are so many singers and actors allowed to abuse women and girls and this society still has a problem punishing these behaviors? But I maintain when it comes to rappers it's all in the lyrics. I believe in freedom of speech but beware of the words one is using. In the majority of Hip Hop, what are women called. The B-Word, which was originally fostered on Black women to give white slave owners an excuse to rape them because they were beneath dogs. Or hoes, sluts, prostitutes. How many hip-hop songs do we have where women are just called "women" or "girls' or even "female." Remember a few years back when people were dogging Google because when a photo search was done for nasty names pictures of black women came up. Everyone was blaming the algorithm (because people do not understand how an algorithm works so we can blame everything on it.) I NEVER occurred to a single person it's how we are labeling photos, videos, and the lyrics. Black men, and too many Black women, use these words in photo descriptions, captions, and song lyrics so when a search is done for "hoe" and you find Black women, click on the picture. I promise you that there is a caption or meta-data that has those labels on it. My overall point is, if you can call people out their name constantly, you won't have respect for them physically. Is it any surprise that rappers, who have no good words for Black women end up being abusive? Slave masters thought of female black slaves as the B-word, so they raped and abused them from childhood until they got old. Rapper's default word for women, especially black women, is the B-word, so we pretty much get what we pay for on that.
First of all these are all allegations as far as from TI there's no actual definitive proof so why would you lock someone up and you don't have any proof as far as Chris Brown goes that was just an incident that happened one damn time in trying to heal and grow from that situation the question is why do we act like people can't make mistakes why do we act like people can't grow from their mistakes at the end of the day everything you here ain't always true. Just like when Chris Brown actually had had an interview where he talked about him hitting Rihanna he even said in the interview that she didn't first but the question is why the fuck does she feel the need to hit him first why do you feel entitled that you can put your hands on somebody don't give a fuck about your gender the point I'm making about is both Gender need to make accountability
@@trublacking8572 And you’re a reason why these monsters get away with there crimes. Mind if I block you. Don’t answer, it’s going to happen anyway. Bye.
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Well said…very well said 👌🏾👌🏾
@@wokeaf1242 that part
I was in the AUC when Spellman told Nelly to kick rocks. That was a wild moment in time. It's interested to see how attitudes have changed forward and back on that moment.
I love you !
Her book wasn’t perfect but she was brave and tried to start a conversation that needed to be started. I was screaming at the Lil Wayne part I cannot 😭💀 I loved this explanation and analysis, you’re always a fantastic video essayist.
Thanks for watching!
sexual abuse in childhood leading to sexual promiscuity in adulthood is a convo we still not even really having today let alone someone bringing this up back then...
Hyper sexuality is often a trauma response. It’s well known within the CPTSD community.
The fact that people are surprised by this is evidence of how much education is needed surrounding Trauma and trauma culture.
Buffie the Body (Buffie Caruth) was in ATL. It wasn’t a Mandela Effect LOL! She played Big Booty Judy and threw the house party and was dancing with Esquire (Jackie Long).
Listennnnnni knew it but I couldn’t find a clip on UA-cam so I was second guessing myself 😂😂
I love Buffie
I was obsessed and wanted to be a video girl when I was younger. I had Confessions in middle school lol. She was ahead of her time with this and opened the door for the Kat Stacks and Celina Powells of the world. I'm still ready for a real Me Too hip hop movement.
She needs to close it.
Same here!!
Chile I forgot all about Kat Stacks.
I loved hearing your commentary! They had a documentary on BET, but a lot of those women had hella internalized misogyny, making their commentary insufferable. These chicks completely overlooked the blatant misogyny that they’ve all experienced and continue to endure today, yet they made her the bad guy. I too believed that Karrine gave the most misogynistic guys in her book a pass. I personally feel that while her book was more sensational than cautionary, it represented everything we knew about the industry. Too many of those girls were trying too hard to be respectable, yet they weren’t.
Probably the best objective opinion I have ever read about that trashy book.
I used to like Tyra, but that interview was foul.
It seems the more I learn about her, the more she seems like a terrible human being.
Tyra has always been very judgmental and a bully. Glad someone can see it
But also consider we’re looking at 2000s Tyra with 2020s eyes. If you have asked me as a late teen in the 2000s what I thought of sex workers, I would have said some horrible things. Now I know better.
@i'm tired lol. yes I have! Glad you can see it. Tyra is very bitchy and she doesn’t hide it.
Because Tyra was salty that Karrine slept with her ex, Chris Webber Lol. Tyra low key didn't like that.
And the way she acted on America’s next top model was atrocious Tyra is not a good person
This reminds me of the way that men are calling Meg the stallion a snitch
I know this isn’t about the video but I was a victim of sexual assault by my friend. I was a virgin before he assaulted me. He also threatened me and my family and blackmailed me too. When I called the police, they told me “ boys will be boys” and ask if I’m sure it’s not just a “ sex thing we did “. They said they didn’t have enough evidence so my case went nowhere. I fell into a deep depression after that and even experienced suicidal thoughts. I had to go to therapy because of that.
I really hope that you're okay doll❤
I cant even imagine, I hope you are doing okay too, and I hope therapy helped you, much love
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I love you, sister. ❤️
Very late reply but I hope you are doing well❤
The early and mid 2000s were something else. I do not miss it even if it's still not the best out there right now
Me either! Lol
@@IntelexualMedia That time period was a mess and a half. I don't even see how anyone looks at with much fondness
Maybe because im Croatian I dont really dislike 2000s
It's interesting how much Nostalgia there is for the early 2000s kind of a crappy time for anybody who wasn't a really skinny blonde girl and even then they weren't doing too hot #FreeBritney. But like the music scene is just rife with sexual exploitation
I mean, I have sentimental feelings for early 00s hip hop/R&B because it takes me back to being a kid in middle school. As a 30 year old adult, I still love the music and fashion but recognize how problematic a lot of the shit was back then.
Well said!
This
TRUTH
Same for the Bollywood music industry, with some of its most notorious movers and shakers being infamous producers like Anu Malik, Mumbai dacoits and insanely screwed up billionaires like Mr Mukhesh Ambani and his brother Anil of Reliance Inc fame.
So the guys can brag about their sex lives as much as they want but the second a girl tells her side of the story the world implodes of course lol
just like snoop dog's reaction to WAP. actually, a lot of rapper's reactions to WAP.
Finally a video that fully covers this topic, trauma, misogyny, racism internalized misogyny, sexual assault and how the hip hop culture exploits women and the work that still needs to be done to address it, as well as the healing. Thank you.
Trauma is long lasting, I.e epigenetics. I hope that she can fully heal.
I had NO IDEA these models were paid so little. But it’s really not surprising.
I never pass up one of your videos, even if it's something I'm not interested on the surface because I always learn something new. Highly entertaining, thoroughly researched and documented, clearly presented with humor and insight. What's not to love!?
Thanks for watching! ❤️
I loved this video. Charlemange was already trash but to hear him berate Buffie for no reason made my blood boil. I am pissed at the level of disrespect these women got but that was never the same hate given to Tawny Kitten and the rock vixens. The mysognoir was strong in all the reactions.
Yep!
I was seriously just wondering if you’re doing alright and still thriving out here. So happy to hear your voice and to learn from you.
Whew!! Charlemagne was so ruthless😤. Buffy Da Body handled that well
Pleeeease do a video on the recent increase in social normalization of cosmetic surgery
The part about misogyny existing in all spaces and it being violent, on top of feeling shame about one's own developing body.... that was puberty for me. You captured how I felt during that time before I had the language. Thank you so much!
I'm so glad young women growing up now ain't putting up with it, but the fact that they still have to says volumes.
Well done documentary. I did music videos in the 90’s and 2000’s and those sets could be scary. There would be 5 or more men aggressively trying to have sex with you. And the models would always pair up with each other. You would never go to the bathroom without another girl with you. A very famous white rapper’s casting director told all us black models none of us would be a feature girl, because he won’t feature black models. Sexual harassment was allowed and expected. Only on urban sets did I receive that type of misogynistic treatment. BET still owes me money for a promo I did for Cash Money Records🤣
Not them still owing you money 😩 thank you for watching and this insight!
"Lil Wayne. LIL WAYNE?!" 😂😂😂
LIT-TLE WAYNE! Thats nasty! LMAO
“ Babe wake up!! New Intelexual Media just dropped!!”
This video is so good. I love how you highlighted that people are more outraged at the fact that she named names instead of the facing the horrific acts that she went they. They are all basically saying "yeah she was treated like shit but naming people, that's a no no"
I dont know how many times my jaw dropped watching this video. it's crazy when you're growing up watching these videos and not thinking too much of it, to learning about how these girls were treated and looked at. very informative!
I was just explaining the world's progression from ignorance living with baby boomer parents and how much the world has changed in my own lifetime as it pertains to women's rights and rape culture to my kids. My only hope is that we continue to grow intellectually and further our sex specific rights because while we are more aware, only the methodology of our misogyny has changed, the mode has stayed consistent. Thank you for yet another great video!
I know this isn't the point, but I still feel compelled to say that purple looks *so lovely* on you. Also, this video is so good!
One of the things I find hilarious (and sad) about the thing with Karrine Steffans is the amount of people going "Hey, you're addicted to celebrity" ... by celebrities who assume they should maintain the positions they have, as if they aren't addicted to their own fame. Honestly, that kind of thing just keeps happening, though; it's still so common that clout-chasers being accused of something also accuse others of chasing clout.
It’s so weird but it feels like when She talks about Wayne She talks about the only person She is willing to go to as a secure place and She never really had a secure place even though He ain’t safe at all..
I’m ashamed to say I was probably 12 or 13 when I got my hands on a copy of this book. (Parents definitely had no clue. I changed the cover with another book 😩) I would love to revisit as a 27 year old adult with a very different perspective than then.
It's little steps like the release of this book that help in breaking the spell of patriarchy. Tons of people, especially men, need to be held accountable for what they did or else no justice can happen.
This is literally the best channel on YT 💜💜💜
The quality of these videos would be labeled as TV specials back in the day.
Lord have mercy, not LIL WAYNE, lol. That caught me off guard. Thanks for making this video! Like you, I was young during this era so a lot of this controversy flew right over my head.
5:35 Noo! Not Bernie! 😂 But seriously, I really the editing of your videos. They are just *chef's kiss*
love what you said about their infantalization! people act as though sex workers arent their own humans who choose their work for different reasons.
honestly, i should just show my sister your videos because she just doesn't seem to understand how toxic and awful things were in the 2000s. not that they were all bad. but like, sis will go on and on about how "things were simpler back then" and i'm just like......???? no, they weren't. you were just a teenager back then, and you're still dealing with trauma from that period bc of how pervasive it was
I had no idea about any of this going in but by the end I was so invested please keep these coming
thanks for watching!
I am not Black myself, but the trend of lighter-skinned women being singled out to represent Black beauty in media such as movies and music videos has always bothered me. Especially the tendency for the woman to always be the significantly lighter-skinned partner when you look at heterosexual Black couples in said media. It reinforces our cultural association between lighter skin and feminine beauty and darker skin with the lack thereof, which is the foundation of a lot of the colorism you see out there.
It's a major reason why, whenever I make art or write stories depicting straight couples of the same ethnicity, the girl is usually the darker-skinned partner if there is a skin color difference between them at all.
Thank you ❤️
She wasn't scared to write that book tho. Very brave beautiful woman
I usually don't comment, but stumbled across this channel recently, and I have been binge watching videos. I love the content and editing, and I love the fact that (mainly black) women's issues are being discussed without turning it into outright man-hating. Love our beautiful black women. Also hope we continue to remove stigma associated with sex workers.
Now I have to read the book. Will revisit once I'm done.
Pretty much she was ahead of the times! I admire her for her bravery for doing this because everything was done “behind closed doors” especially in the hip hop world! I bet many other video girls were doing the same thing but kept it on the low but yet were the main on judging the actions of Karrine! GREAT video! 👏🏽🙌🏽
I sent this video to my friend cause I knew he would enjoy the analysis. He has never seen your channel before and his response was "oooh I like when pretty women tel me things" i thought that was very fitting considering the video content
Thank you for pointing out the whorephobia in P valley. I like the show but this made me uncomfortable but it shows the reality, a lot of women didn’t work on their internalised misogyny.
I love the show but it’s just a reflection of real attitudes! Thanks for watching
I’ll be honest. I’ve been learning a lot about my own misogyny. I’m hoping you keep videos like this coming out. It really helps me with understanding what my wife and other women especially black women go through
This was beautiful ! I read this book when i was like 15 and could not put it down ! I think I will reread as a 29 year old woman with different eyes !
... why the hell was Tyra mad about it? She's weird
Tyra was salty because Karrine slept with Tyra's ex Chris Webber Lol.
But she tried to make her look like she was crazy or something and she put Tyra on blast in front of public talk about I heard everything about you too
Lmao oh please Tyra was just a high fashion video vixen lol jk jk but being a supermodel just was seen as more value
@@AvonnaVentura lol I did some research and you might be right. He did cheat on her, not sure if it was with Karrine, but when Tyra looked at Karrine she saw the women whom that ex had cheated on her with. Apparently on that same Tyra show episode with Karrine she was crying reminiscing about the relationship so yeah she was emotional and felt like blaming someone
@@bgcrp2005 yeah Karrine later said "she and I are not that different" I know Tyra was mad 💀
Thanks for the background info- I always found Karrine's interviews fascinating and thought she was brave for her writing. Great to know more.
Whew chile!!! The early 2000s was so foul in a lot of ways. S/o to you for revisiting & shedding light on this era. I was is was in middle school & high school around that time. Being a black girl in those formative years was most definitely challenging & traumatizing as hell (especially being fully developed like I was, SCARY times). This also made me think of those slut-shamey “expose” pages kids used to make about girls who were so-called hoes or “jayers”, as my then peers would called them. Shit was so crazy. Anyhow, so glad you pointed out all the exploitation, abuse, misogyny & double standards that was clearly going in that industry, & all industries for that matter (& still unfortunately).
Nothing insightful to say myself because you are amazing with the insight, and nuance and research and also aesthetics. You do a great job and you deserve way more attention.
Great video !! Learned a lot thx. Patriarchal norms are connected to culture which is connected to class- black women have less power relative to black men relative to white men snd white women because the class dynamic creates a stronger patriarchal hierarchy. Most people think it’s about “culture” but culture is just how people live in the world. So class and material realities shape culture.
Right. Well said.
In India, no matter how hard certain members of society have tried to destroy it, the caste system sadly remains the norm.
The way I get so excited when you upload
I feel like now is a great time to revisit this book and the interviews that followed and her treatment throughout it all. She was really she’s of her time considering what all happened IMO. I’m glad you made this video because I grew up in this era and used to watch these videos thinking the girls always looked so glamorous and had it going on, but like you said they all looked the same kinda like they do now. And I remember some of the convos that used to be had when the book came out and I feel like in today’s world people would be more open to giving her the space tell her story. Because now they’d call it her “telling her truth”
This video is truly, truly great. However, in the future I think it would be helpful to put some content warnings (sexual violence, drug addiction). It's a valid response to say "that's implied by the subject," but that added dedicated moment of heads-up is helpful to people with trauma triggers w/o much added time/effort. It gives people who don't want to engage w/ content that's potentially triggering an opportunity to exit. And they can at least enjoy *some* of the video.
Why is nobody talking about her hair? Like OMG it is everything. Now, I’m biased toward the colour purple, but regardless that’s the best hair I’ve seen in a while.
My lord the 2000s are toxic as fuck, I really grew up in that.
yes!! here and excited for my education!! intelligent and beautiful as always lex!
Oh yes! Sis, that Supa Head’s book was CONTROVERSIAL. I can remember that mess like yesterday.
The way I just got done reading this book!
I remember seeing those Nelly and 50 Cent videos on tv when I was like 11. It was...shocking.
I lived in Memphis, TN in middle school and S. FL in HS during the late 90s and early 2000s and l remember being obsessed with Kerrine Steffens and Melissa Ford. I thought they were so cool and smart and beautiful. The abuse by the industry went over my head. I'm glad they told the truth and lived unapologetically.
That Roots music video clip was all about the critique of HipHop music videos of that era ( and since!)
Props to The Roots for being that voice.
Algorithm food ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ love your channel lex! Always so educational and a great way of delivery!
Your videos are always so good and very informative. Thank you for your hard work!
Man. This takes me back. In my teen years these women were godesses. i thought they were untouchable.
This was a great watch. A lot of thoughtful perspective unpacked here.
I grew up during this era and was definitely would’ve thought very differently about women like Karrine than I would now so I’m glad things are being spoken about now. Having watched this and another video on the same topic it’s interesting to see the men involved really thinking they’re saying something by disparaging Karrine whilst entirely verifying everything she was saying. Great video!
Ugh such a good video!! Thank you for talking about and including wages, grooming, and sexual exploitation of these women.
Excellent commentary. Well done and props for the lack of judgement all around.
I’ve been very interested in Karrine’s story lately, and then I learned that she was also a perpetrator of abuse. Still, I’m glad she had the courage to expose some the predators in the industry.
UA-cam presented this video to me unexpectedly, but it surprised me. The writing was well done and presented professionally. It informed and captivated me. As for the topic, SH's life, book, and personality are dysfunctional. The interesting part is that she has done what was necessary in her mind to come to terms with that dysfunctionality. She has taken control so that her intrenched dysfunctionality does not pull her over the cliff. Human nature never ceases to amaze me.
She’s done it again 😘🤌 I love your content
Fantastic video! You have such engaging editing for long-form informational content.
I too was blamed for being raped multiple times from the age of 5. I shared this because I want to bring awareness to protecting girls.
You produce exceptional work, deftly conveying your sentiments about the chosen topic while maintaining a focus on its broader social significance. And you do so in a truly enchanting way!
thank you!
The content was great and I love your tone! I was thoroughly interested the entire time! Content was greatttt💓👍🏾 and that shade to Sistah Soulah was TEA
This is real journalist work
Me at the end of the video: “This goin’ on the TV!” #geekedout
Girl!!! You give me do much info I have to watch a few times!! I love it!!
I really do love and enjoy these videos there always so educational and informative
A new Intelexual Media video is another reason you deserve 1000 times the views & subs you have right now. Always so indepth & creative with how you produce them. Also a fantastic watch alongside Khadija's vid on this topic from 2 months ago
Let's talk about how boring music videos became without Black women in them.
Love all your videos!!! You’re doing amazing work!!❤
I looooove how purple her afro is! 💜💜💜
That was a wild time. She was vilified on almost every side.
I know you have to do alot of research but I get excited when I see you make a post! Thank you
Early & ready for this content!!