On the road shots you could use the Finnish army trick of summer woodland M05 jacket + M05 snow camo pants. That way your legs are blending to the snow on the ground and from waist up you are blending to the trees that have little to no snow. Works very well when viewed from a distance.
You guys DESERVE more subscribers man. Even though you mostly “cater” to the younger generation, there’s ALWAYS a lot I get out of it too..at 62. STILL young @ heart..and not quite as agile. Well, not even close really. Y’all have one of THE BEST channels, “gun-tubers” or not..awesome stuff!
The pattern of the hat is named pakkaskuvio. Meaning frost or freezing pattern. It is meant to be used exactly how you described the mixing of camos. We can have snow camo on depending of environment or the frost pattern for foresty thawing areas
I remember the winter of 2010 when I was in the Finnish army and we used the m05 winter camo. When we were walking to the shooting range it started to snow and it was almost impossible to spot the guys walking ON THE ROAD ~50m in front of me. Couple a little snowfall with the very limited daylight hours finland has during the winter and you get yourself an extremely potent camo pattern.
When Ziga was practicing his shoulder rolls in the snow, all I could picture is him continuing to roll, accumulate snow, turn into a giant snowball, and blasting through a wall at the bottom of the hill like the KoolAid guy. "OH yeah! Tactical snowball entry FTW!" 😂 Polenar team, I know you can make this happen.
Late springtime we used only snowpant coverall in finnish army, because there was snow only on the ground. All the foliage, trees and other stuff were completely snowless, so best performing combo was using normal m05 pattern on top, and using snow coveralls for the legs. Of course the snow coverall jacket was there with you, if needed for the mission. Served in recon unit so blending in for the mission was always part of preparation.
here in estonia during some times of winter we wear snow camo pants and woodland camo tops so when youre standing or crouching your legs blend into the snow and your top blends in with the trees
The full snow camo is mainly for mid-winter, especially further to the north where the trees are also covered in snow. More often than not you only use the pants.
Definitely one of my insta watch channels. Fun, informative, and right to the chase. Love you guys. I'm still fawning over your squad blitz drills from years ago
In Norwegian army we very often wore white camo on the legs and not on the upper body. We found this to work well in mixed snow/forest environment, and reduced inconveniences and overheating.
tbh in the army we had suspenders on those Snow M05's so I think its supposed to look like that. Also we put our gear on top of the snow M05's. The Readiness units usually camo their rifles and rigs atleast in the Jäger Brigade.
Those camo test were really nice. Movement is easy to spot in close but add distance and things arent that simple. Add some wind to move trees and maybe snowfall and only two things you will spot are named as Jack and Shit. Could see more videos like this how camo patterns works and how to hide man in plain sight.
Besides the straight Snow camo head to toe, the Finns also use the Snow trousers/ bottoms and their Woodland top/ blouse in combination, also works very well for diffusion/ profile breakup in principle and application. I really like the M05 Snow camo but I wish it had Brown speckled in with the Gray, that would be nearly perfect then, alteration as needed is easy enough though. The Gear Aid brand self-adhering Fabric camo wrap work exceptionally well and matches the M05 Snow pattern extremely well (i've done a video with it and a home-made Snow camo system, my area is very similar to Finland in Winter).
@@PolenarTactical I remember that one!!! Yeah they discontinued it sadly, worked really well too. What you can do is take some plain over whites, then use camo netting and just speckle brown from spraypaint/ rattle can randomly over it, that works exceptionally well and saves a lot of money too.
@@PolenarTactical I made several snow Ghillies with Snowdrift strips of pinking shear-cut fabric. It’s perfect for snow-covered plains with the light tan hints of underbrush in the US high desert/hills and barren landscapes in the winter that get a lot of snow. Finland has way more green due to the heavy forrest. M05 and Danish snow camo work very well in Europe.
I always feel like camo really shines when you see it at a distance. Up close, some of the shots were wicked in how well it blends and others pretty obvious. Back up like 30-40 yards and you're invisible. I'd do a gag video of "landscapes" and camo
What I discovered in airsoft of all things when there is snow on the ground = just plain white pants and camo jacket of your choice works like you would not belive if you want to to even beyond, even plain white pants with ghillie green top give you almost 100% camo in a winter forrest where there is snow on the ground and the the "background" is more green than white "
This should be in every video. Spot the guy in camo hidden in a random scene. Could push up interaction too with people going through looking for them and posting in the comments.
I have recently seen a Norwegian force doing some NATO connected drill, and they had dark woodland type camo for the upper body, and snow camo for the pants, which blends really well in boreal forests. And was also kinda stylish.
"Woah-oh-oh-oh Camouflage, things are never quite the way they seem" Now with having watched the video talking about camouflage, I can't get "Camouflage" by Sabaton out of my mind again...thanks! Great video, as always, pretty cool!! 👌😊
You can also use military poncho raincoat with desired camouflage pattern on it but it won't cover your legs. Also works great to camouflage a shelter, tent, equipment since it's waterproof. It's lightweight too.
1/504th PIR 82nd Airborne US Army here (Ret.). We would routinely reverse our uniforms in light snow if we were not issued winter white covers. The blue-ish hue was not perfect but it was far better than the dark woodland pattern. 7:24 is my favorite type of camo!
Those loose overgarments also help break up human shape. What I really noticed is that movement outside of concealment really gives you away. Camo is helpful, but it's not an invisibility cloak. I really liked your weapon camo. Wrap and bits of tape is my go-to for rifle camo--speaking of which, would you consider a compare/contrast video of tape and paint for weapon camo?
Movement is the problem. It's really easy to lie still with camo and facepaint. But creeping closer, thats the hard part. I served in Finnish long range recon unit, and our job was to be invisible. I can't even explain how carefully slow you have to move to remain hidden. Human eye is excellent for spotting movement.
You guys should do a video with the phantom leaf camouflage patterns. Some people claim their photos are doctored but their patterns seem extremely effective!
Na... Phantomleaf doesn't doctor their pics because it would ruin their rep. Some shops/companies crank up the saturation in the pics of all camos they sell to make them look more appealing.
@@PineSurvey I own several articles with the Z3A pattern and believe the pattern is amazing. Before purchasing though I saw people making such claims. On a side note I read through the Pine Survey article/review on phantom leaf before buying, nice job!
The classic german and swiss flecktarn are great examples of cammo that doesnt look like it will work but yet it completely disappears out in the field.
I have used the old swedish snow suit (Yes the one that looks like it has been stored in piss for a few days and then cleaned) in airsoft a couple of times and its absolutly crazy how invisible you get when you wear that just before the sun goes down. I have had friends trip over me
The part about the snow pants supposedly not absorbing water... can tell you from experience the military ones absolutely do. We had our training march during the end of winter when the snow started melting a bit, and our clothes were absolutely wet. But maybe the Varusteleka ones are better, they usually improve their stuff over the military issue gear
The Finnish m05 camo has been optimized to decieve the eye. And camo combining is usual for example spring winter. Snow on the ground so need snow camo pants and summer or cold climate top. We usually wore gear over
I've been told that turning the M05 uniform inside out for winter is an intentional part of the design. It does absorb water like these guys absorb alcohol, so its not ideal for lying in snow, but I guess it works in a pinch.
about the black gloves.... do a hole in the sleeve of the winter camo a few cm down from the edge . put your tumb though the hole so the camo goes down to your knuckles. also reduces snow ingress
This video is a good example of how difficult it is to stop someone in camo. Despite knowing he's there 100% and knowing he's close, it can easily take like 5 seconds to notice him. 5 seconds is enough for him to spot you first, take aim and mag dump you.
That m05 pattern with white specks is only really used on that fur hat and a heavy padded jacket and pants, they're only used if you need to stay warm while standing still like on sentry duty or during formation drills in winter.
"In this picture there are 40 people, none of them can be seen. In this film we hope to show you how not to be seen." H.M Government, Public Service Film No.42
In the army we simulated "winter camo" always by turning the clothes insideout when there was fresh snowfall. Like my year was a wet black winter with snow only staying for a few days until it melted again....
Awesome, what a lovely video. Very educational and informative, exactly what I have been looking for as I play ghost recon breakpoint.and I have a thing for camouflage.
love the scenes where you let us try to spot you shows how well it works quite effectively
We were all baffled on how well it works when we were editing the video - it really surprised us 😅
@@PolenarTactical Varusteleka did release a white version of their PC and all normal pouches in the snow m05 camo.
@PolenarTactical 7:44 that shows how well design it is.
During my service I was looking at platoon marching in the woods and sneezed. Took me almost a while to find them again.
@@PolenarTactical dang lol
Everyone knows that when a Finnish sniper spots you, you are ‘finished’.
I'm disappointed..... More in myself for laughing than in you for making that joke...
I don't know if I wanna slap my knee or you face for making me laugh
*finnished?
Of course the famous White Death Simo Häyhä Suomi sniper versus the USSR in WW2.
@@ddawg7567 lol
I live in a subtropical place that never snows, but this is still very interesting to watch.
To be fair, most of the same rules apply, just with different colours
Ghillie suit :)
Well Jeff most likely you don't see any Finnish hostile soldier on there.
@@lintu25 they all melted
I heard that Finnish M05 summer camo actually works really well in tropic as well.
On the road shots you could use the Finnish army trick of summer woodland M05 jacket + M05 snow camo pants. That way your legs are blending to the snow on the ground and from waist up you are blending to the trees that have little to no snow.
Works very well when viewed from a distance.
Mixing camo types works fairly well in pretty much any environment, as long as the different patterns are generally appropriate.
Just was about to tell the same that 20 years ago that was already a thing. Plus ofc using local materials to fit in even more.
I would use the cold weather jacket over the summer jacket in this scenario
@@JohnTavastianyou would get heat stroke if you use cold weather jacket in battle
@@Tumppi88 you gotta slow down with it 😂
The old Finnish M62 field uniform was intended to be used inside out in snowy terrain. There were pockets both inside and outside.
Yeah, we used it both ways.
You guys DESERVE more subscribers man. Even though you mostly “cater” to the younger generation, there’s ALWAYS a lot I get out of it too..at 62. STILL young @ heart..and not quite as agile. Well, not even close really. Y’all have one of THE BEST channels, “gun-tubers” or not..awesome stuff!
Thank you!
It's nice to hear such positive feedback, it made our day 😀
Agreed! I'm 67 and have a ball watching these guys--learn stuff, too!
Playing "Find the Camo soldier in the picture" was good fun :)
good to hear :D
The pattern of the hat is named pakkaskuvio. Meaning frost or freezing pattern. It is meant to be used exactly how you described the mixing of camos. We can have snow camo on depending of environment or the frost pattern for foresty thawing areas
I remember the winter of 2010 when I was in the Finnish army and we used the m05 winter camo. When we were walking to the shooting range it started to snow and it was almost impossible to spot the guys walking ON THE ROAD ~50m in front of me. Couple a little snowfall with the very limited daylight hours finland has during the winter and you get yourself an extremely potent camo pattern.
When Ziga was practicing his shoulder rolls in the snow, all I could picture is him continuing to roll, accumulate snow, turn into a giant snowball, and blasting through a wall at the bottom of the hill like the KoolAid guy. "OH yeah! Tactical snowball entry FTW!" 😂
Polenar team, I know you can make this happen.
IT'S ZIGGIN TIME!
Hope he next time doesnt stuff his barrel full of snow even if it is a airsoft gun.
Late springtime we used only snowpant coverall in finnish army, because there was snow only on the ground. All the foliage, trees and other stuff were completely snowless, so best performing combo was using normal m05 pattern on top, and using snow coveralls for the legs. Of course the snow coverall jacket was there with you, if needed for the mission. Served in recon unit so blending in for the mission was always part of preparation.
Sissihonor
here in estonia during some times of winter we wear snow camo pants and woodland camo tops so when youre standing or crouching your legs blend into the snow and your top blends in with the trees
yeah we do that in FDF too
The full snow camo is mainly for mid-winter, especially further to the north where the trees are also covered in snow. More often than not you only use the pants.
Definitely one of my insta watch channels. Fun, informative, and right to the chase. Love you guys. I'm still fawning over your squad blitz drills from years ago
In Norwegian army we very often wore white camo on the legs and not on the upper body. We found this to work well in mixed snow/forest environment, and reduced inconveniences and overheating.
0:12 Man down! Man down!
Yup..he totally dumped it!
Manca in this white pants just make my day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
tbh in the army we had suspenders on those Snow M05's so I think its supposed to look like that. Also we put our gear on top of the snow M05's. The Readiness units usually camo their rifles and rigs atleast in the Jäger Brigade.
This was very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
That's nice to hear. Thanks for taking the time to write a comment - it's a small thing but engagement really helps with the YT algorithm :)
@@PolenarTactical Comment for the algorithm, like for the video,
In Alaska the Native scouts where white pants and a camo top. Really blends with the tree line.
Same in Finland. As spring arrives trees and foliage lose snow first, so we use this winter camo for pants and summer camp for top. Works great 👍
This video was great, amazing how you can seemingly disappear once you stand still.
Those camo test were really nice. Movement is easy to spot in close but add distance and things arent that simple.
Add some wind to move trees and maybe snowfall and only two things you will spot are named as Jack and Shit.
Could see more videos like this how camo patterns works and how to hide man in plain sight.
Ah yes, "spot the sniper" scenes. :) Well filmed, despite a few hiccups.
Awesome trick with the tape. Works like a charm.
**The snow star speaking Finnish**
Soviet: _my time has come_
Use white camo pant’s. Upper body regular uniform/camo . Snow on ground but not in trees/ backround
An excellent snow camo demo video. I could hardly see anyone in it. Well done!
The friendly Slav in his natural environment. Having a blissful day in the snow.
Awesome gear and demonstration!
Besides the straight Snow camo head to toe, the Finns also use the Snow trousers/ bottoms and their Woodland top/ blouse in combination, also works very well for diffusion/ profile breakup in principle and application.
I really like the M05 Snow camo but I wish it had Brown speckled in with the Gray, that would be nearly perfect then, alteration as needed is easy enough though.
The Gear Aid brand self-adhering Fabric camo wrap work exceptionally well and matches the M05 Snow pattern extremely well (i've done a video with it and a home-made Snow camo system, my area is very similar to Finland in Winter).
Pencott made an amazing camo called SnowDrift but i can't find it anywhere in stock anymore :/
@@PolenarTactical I remember that one!!! Yeah they discontinued it sadly, worked really well too.
What you can do is take some plain over whites, then use camo netting and just speckle brown from spraypaint/ rattle can randomly over it, that works exceptionally well and saves a lot of money too.
@@PolenarTactical I made several snow Ghillies with Snowdrift strips of pinking shear-cut fabric. It’s perfect for snow-covered plains with the light tan hints of underbrush in the US high desert/hills and barren landscapes in the winter that get a lot of snow. Finland has way more green due to the heavy forrest. M05 and Danish snow camo work very well in Europe.
just get it dirty
@@LRRPFco52 Works well in the North Midwest, North Eastern Seaboard, and places like the Rockies and Alaska too.
Love y'all's stuff the comedic relief makes it top tier
This was awesome. Would love to see more videos like this.
Thank you for the feedback!
So more videos about camouflage or gear in general?
@@PolenarTactical ..BOTH! Whatever you guys put out is always great/interesting. HOW you produce it, edit it..AND THE HUMOR IS OVER-THE-TOP!
That "hello" at 0:20 is so cute ❤😂
Excellent as always, strong work.
Very well done, without falling into tacti-cool mode. Thank you!
Nice, very intresting video. There are a lot of intresting patterns of camuflages 🤩🤩
I've been loving the longer form content recently.
Great video. Effective camouflage of humor in a good informational video.
I always feel like camo really shines when you see it at a distance. Up close, some of the shots were wicked in how well it blends and others pretty obvious. Back up like 30-40 yards and you're invisible.
I'd do a gag video of "landscapes" and camo
I served in the Finnish army.. the time snow was on the ground but not in trees anymore we wore winter pattern pants and green jacket.
What I discovered in airsoft of all things
when there is snow on the ground = just plain white pants and camo jacket of your choice works like you would not belive
if you want to to even beyond, even plain white pants with ghillie green top give you almost 100% camo in a winter forrest where there is snow on the ground and the the "background" is more green than white
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This should be in every video. Spot the guy in camo hidden in a random scene. Could push up interaction too with people going through looking for them and posting in the comments.
I have recently seen a Norwegian force doing some NATO connected drill, and they had dark woodland type camo for the upper body, and snow camo for the pants, which blends really well in boreal forests.
And was also kinda stylish.
Very Perkele, much Sauna, a lot of Mämmi.
"Woah-oh-oh-oh Camouflage, things are never quite the way they seem"
Now with having watched the video talking about camouflage, I can't get "Camouflage" by Sabaton out of my mind again...thanks! Great video, as always, pretty cool!! 👌😊
You can also use military poncho raincoat with desired camouflage pattern on it but it won't cover your legs. Also works great to camouflage a shelter, tent, equipment since it's waterproof. It's lightweight too.
When the forest starts speaking Slovenian.
I like the combination of having M05 winter lower and M05 woodland upper. Snow is white and trees are green🤙
3:43 wehn he's behind the slim tree is incredible! so well camouflaged
this is where the three stripe slings shine!
must resist the masculine urge to wrap firearms in white tape
1/504th PIR 82nd Airborne US Army here (Ret.). We would routinely reverse our uniforms in light snow if we were not issued winter white covers. The blue-ish hue was not perfect but it was far better than the dark woodland pattern.
7:24 is my favorite type of camo!
Oh yeah great content as always!
Thank you!
Those loose overgarments also help break up human shape. What I really noticed is that movement outside of concealment really gives you away. Camo is helpful, but it's not an invisibility cloak.
I really liked your weapon camo. Wrap and bits of tape is my go-to for rifle camo--speaking of which, would you consider a compare/contrast video of tape and paint for weapon camo?
Movement is the problem. It's really easy to lie still with camo and facepaint. But creeping closer, thats the hard part. I served in Finnish long range recon unit, and our job was to be invisible. I can't even explain how carefully slow you have to move to remain hidden. Human eye is excellent for spotting movement.
@@johanneskoskela384 Fighting the urge to speed up just a bit must be overwhelming at times...
Thanks for sharing this
“He’s doing a really great job”
*drops down into oblivion off camera*
0:09 "Is doing a really good job" -> stumbles out of nowhere 😀
You guys should do a video with the phantom leaf camouflage patterns. Some people claim their photos are doctored but their patterns seem extremely effective!
Na... Phantomleaf doesn't doctor their pics because it would ruin their rep. Some shops/companies crank up the saturation in the pics of all camos they sell to make them look more appealing.
@@PineSurvey I own several articles with the Z3A pattern and believe the pattern is amazing. Before purchasing though I saw people making such claims.
On a side note I read through the Pine Survey article/review on phantom leaf before buying, nice job!
@@MrBlargeddy thx! much appreciated!
the main giveaway of camo is movement because everything else is still. but this is super cool
Lol.. love your humor… love your technical assessment!
Cool video! Good job in showing the pattern in various spots!
Thank you!
We're thinking of doing a video on NVG and thermal camouflage. Any suggestions or cool ideas?
@@PolenarTactical those are topics I am just diving into myself for some articles. I will write you a PM
The classic german and swiss flecktarn are great examples of cammo that doesnt look like it will work but yet it completely disappears out in the field.
Been looking for some M05 snow pants for awhile haha effective camouflage it seems
I have used the old swedish snow suit (Yes the one that looks like it has been stored in piss for a few days and then cleaned) in airsoft a couple of times and its absolutly crazy how invisible you get when you wear that just before the sun goes down. I have had friends trip over me
I like how in the beginning I knew someone would be hiding in the background and paid attention to detail and still didn’t see the guy at all
Kippis. The Finns are awesome! And you are awesome for showing off their winter camu!
Very nice, I'm in the Rockies at 11,000ft. I think I might have to get some to replace the USGI white.
The part about the snow pants supposedly not absorbing water... can tell you from experience the military ones absolutely do.
We had our training march during the end of winter when the snow started melting a bit, and our clothes were absolutely wet.
But maybe the Varusteleka ones are better, they usually improve their stuff over the military issue gear
The Finnish m05 camo has been optimized to decieve the eye. And camo combining is usual for example spring winter. Snow on the ground so need snow camo pants and summer or cold climate top. We usually wore gear over
I've been told that turning the M05 uniform inside out for winter is an intentional part of the design.
It does absorb water like these guys absorb alcohol, so its not ideal for lying in snow, but I guess it works in a pinch.
about the black gloves.... do a hole in the sleeve of the winter camo a few cm down from the edge . put your tumb though the hole so the camo goes down to your knuckles. also reduces snow ingress
Awesome effort put into those demonstrations - much appreciated!
This video is a good example of how difficult it is to stop someone in camo.
Despite knowing he's there 100% and knowing he's close, it can easily take like 5 seconds to notice him. 5 seconds is enough for him to spot you first, take aim and mag dump you.
Imagine jumping on the mud with this beautiful white camo...
Gratz on 1m🎉!
Thanks!
I'm dead before i found/spotted him
Thank you for this
Excellent informative quality content bestest from Scotland
Been looking at camo for this time of year 👍👍👍
I will never need snow camo in my current environment, but I would get one of those pants just for the GONDOLA meme
Your video was very good brother, with your assistant
Thermals have entered the training area.....
Nice camouflage, Polenar Tactical.
POV: You just got shot and the last thing you see and hear is jiga saying is “Hellooo :D”
Dang, that camo really works
I only like the design of it dont care if it works😂
Gaffa Tape 👍 Well done that man, well done
That m05 pattern with white specks is only really used on that fur hat and a heavy padded jacket and pants, they're only used if you need to stay warm while standing still like on sentry duty or during formation drills in winter.
I think for next winter I'll pick up some M05!!
"In this picture there are 40 people, none of them can be seen. In this film we hope to show you how not to be seen." H.M Government, Public Service Film No.42
I love Novritsches kreuzotter pattern that looks like nam tiger stripe and it works like a charm in slovenian woods.
Trips in the background, lol
I voted for that thumbnail!
I think Finnish camo is just looking lovely. It always tripped me up seeing someone kust moving when I thought there was no-one in the background
@2:57 Gondola Benis intensifies
Great that someone finally thought about people with tactical bellies. With that clever zipper now you can just release it. Its sauna-related I guess
0:12 Looks like he also tripped! :D
Also flat green,Grey and brown works very well..... for snow flat white with a touch of Grey works wounders
You: *sneeze*
Finnish Snow: Bless you.
Great video as always.
Nice video & congrats on over 1m of subs!!! 👏
Thank you! :D
The rifle looks like how i would react to a tiger's camo, "well thats stupid. Why does it have weird shapes" then i lose eye contact with the target 💀
In the army we simulated "winter camo" always by turning the clothes insideout when there was fresh snowfall. Like my year was a wet black winter with snow only staying for a few days until it melted again....
Awesome, what a lovely video. Very educational and informative, exactly what I have been looking for as I play ghost recon breakpoint.and I have a thing for camouflage.
A lot of times I had to rewind, it's insane how you were camouflaged and I couldn't see you xD
As long as i didn't move it blend in perfectly
@@PolenarTactical Yup, the moment when you did move was like: "So that's where he was! :D"
on EVERYTHING. When i first started the video i immediately started looking for the camo dude and i found him in three seconds.