I love how you can let SHeart make her own decision. And if you managed to get her to doubt her beliefs and have a strong enough relationship she'll throw the spear away of her own volition.
@@damien3738 - So why does the game narrator tell me that i have to intervene, if i can get this outcome even when doing absolutely nothing? Was it just a devilish plot by the devs to make me waste all my inspirations on that DC30 persuasion skill check? I feel scammed now -_-
@@SirAlric82 one path you find that your friend has good nature at heart, the other path you fight to persuade your friend and finally after 40 hours get through to her, and of course there's the other path you fight to persuade your friend but despite all the experiences, feelings and turmoil, she cannot defy her goddess. Regardless which path you go down you get a good story. That's why that DC30 persuasion check is there.
The Shadowheart/Nightsong scene was, for me, one of the best in a video game I've seen in a while. When I played through it I actually teared up. I am glad I was in chat too see this one live too.
I never got to see that encounter with Bathazar down by Night song because in like the 2nd line of talking to him I had a Paladin choise of "DIE VILE NECOMANCER!" and felt like that would def be something a Paladin would do
It's honestly _much_ easier to deal with him in the room you meet him as opposed to the big Shadowfell arena. He has less minions to help him, less room to run (and if he retreats outside of the room then he can't try to Cloudkill the party) and apart from the big guy none of the mobs are especially dangerous outside of Balthazar himself.
I love spirit guardians. It's a tremendously useful spell. With it, Shadowheart can consistently deal damage every turn without even having to use so much as a bonus action.
As a fan of necromancy and vampires myself, this was my first exposure to the goddess Shar and I liked what she is all about. The protector of darkness, secrets and loss. But the more I researched who Shar is, how she came to be and what goals she has, the more I came to believe it's all a whole lot of BS she likes to tell people and her REAL goal is THE END of EVERYTHING that exists. It then makes sense that followers would have to be brainwashed into believing that killing everyone and ending everything would be a sensible way to deal with the dark things in life.
That's exactly what She wants xD. Oblivion. Selune fought (and lost a sh*t-ton of power) to save existence/life. Where Shar stayed strong of her selfish interest. What a beautifull scene. Love that if you save Nightsong, it's grandiose, beautifull, captivating. Where if you don't and kill her, there is not cutscene, no music, just a dark (short) moment.
This moment still might be the highlight of the game for me. It's hard to choose, but the intensity of Shadowheart's decision followed by the cutscene of Aylin restoring her mother's light to the cursed lands?? Mind-blowing.
I love that you had the SAME reaction as I did when I saw that 30 persuasion check lol, but its so rewarding that whether you can hit the persuasion check or not, Shadowheart will do the right thing as long as you've built a good enough relationship with her
LOL "This thing is kinda cool." - Referring to the Blood of Lathander. An item which gives you a get-out-of-death-free card once per day, gives you a 6th level spell well before level 11, and blinds any undead in range (giving them disadvantage on attacks/checks)... And available super early on. That thing isn't a melee powerhouse by any stretch but, in the hands of a caster (like a cleric), it's absolutely busted.
BTW just wanted to let you know that Halsin can use Medium armor as a druid. He can be much much sturdier if you get him out of those robes. He is a moon druid so his main focus is not on casting spells but it is on transforming into strong animals. If you use his Wildshape that is on the right side then you can choose more powerful animals than just the bear
You can actually cause Shadowheart and Laezel to become best friends after this. - You need to first stop them from even having the killing cutscene - or have very high relation between them so Shadowheart spares Laezel herself without interference. - Laezel also becomes a lot nicer after the creche Quest, and she can very much relate to Shadowheart after this point. I feel like If my main character had not romanced her Laezel would have done it in my playthough. (Oh and Wyll Romanced Karlach in my Playthrough)
@@EchoObserver9 I dont exactly know how it works, but your Origin characters react to your actions. In my case, I went to the cresh very early, and after that, Laezel is much nicer, and Shadowheart does not hate her as much, similarly Shadowheart got a lot nicer after starting her romance. So jeah, it kinda never triggered.
As a moon druid I was trying so hard not to judge her on her shar love lol but I jumped on the opportunity to persuade her to go against her. 😂 Can't wait to do an "evil" playthrough though.
There's never a way to talk through it with chaotic or neutral evil characters; unless you are deceiving them until the correct moment. They will backstab everyone; even allies. Lawful Evil is really the only evil alignment that will keep their word, but theres often a catch.
In that combat with Balthazar, I was yelling, RING THE BELL! I really wanted to see if Flesh would kill Balthazar for you since you had his bell. hahaha There is a book you can find many copies of in the game, titled The Unclaimed. It tells the story of a cleric of Shar who did all Shar's bidding, gave up her memories to become worthy, but in the end, Shar abandoned her, teaching her the final lesson of being forgotten. The book is a foreshadowing and warning for Shadowheart. This is exactly what would have happened to her if she became a Dark Justiciar. Shar is a really nasty goddess. I got chills when the Nightsong transformed. I loved Shadowheart's redemption.
In my playthrough, i killed her here. I couldnt convince her, and was totally blind so i thought she was going to do it, and had to try and stop her. I was very sad.
You really need to learn to use haste on your grp and prebuff after every longrest with Aid, Longstrider. Those buffs lasts untill the next longrest apart from haste buy that is the most powerfull combat buff in the game
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I love how you can let SHeart make her own decision. And if you managed to get her to doubt her beliefs and have a strong enough relationship she'll throw the spear away of her own volition.
That reads "shart". 😐
@@j.d.4697 shart is her nickname.
She throws the spear away if you let her decide on her own no matter what, it has nothing to do with your relationship to her.
@@damien3738 - So why does the game narrator tell me that i have to intervene, if i can get this outcome even when doing absolutely nothing? Was it just a devilish plot by the devs to make me waste all my inspirations on that DC30 persuasion skill check? I feel scammed now -_-
@@SirAlric82 one path you find that your friend has good nature at heart, the other path you fight to persuade your friend and finally after 40 hours get through to her, and of course there's the other path you fight to persuade your friend but despite all the experiences, feelings and turmoil, she cannot defy her goddess. Regardless which path you go down you get a good story. That's why that DC30 persuasion check is there.
The Shadowheart/Nightsong scene was, for me, one of the best in a video game I've seen in a while. When I played through it I actually teared up. I am glad I was in chat too see this one live too.
Agreed! The cutscene was amazing 😊
The music when she flies to take on thorm... Perfection! Goosebumps!❤
As a BG2 veteran when the camera shifted to Jaheira's dual scimitars I was a child again for a moment.
I never got to see that encounter with Bathazar down by Night song because in like the 2nd line of talking to him I had a Paladin choise of "DIE VILE NECOMANCER!" and felt like that would def be something a Paladin would do
😂
Spoke like a true paladin xD.
It's honestly _much_ easier to deal with him in the room you meet him as opposed to the big Shadowfell arena.
He has less minions to help him, less room to run (and if he retreats outside of the room then he can't try to Cloudkill the party) and apart from the big guy none of the mobs are especially dangerous outside of Balthazar himself.
Major turning point in the game. Now you get to uncover the truth about Shadowheart's past.
I'm so excited!!
This whole sequence is peak gaming, its so impactful especially as your choices lead up to this extremely pivotal moment.
Dame Aylin is a chad 🤣
I love spirit guardians. It's a tremendously useful spell. With it, Shadowheart can consistently deal damage every turn without even having to use so much as a bonus action.
As a fan of necromancy and vampires myself, this was my first exposure to the goddess Shar and I liked what she is all about.
The protector of darkness, secrets and loss.
But the more I researched who Shar is, how she came to be and what goals she has, the more I came to believe it's all a whole lot of BS she likes to tell people and her REAL goal is THE END of EVERYTHING that exists.
It then makes sense that followers would have to be brainwashed into believing that killing everyone and ending everything would be a sensible way to deal with the dark things in life.
Yeah shar prays on those who have suffered loss and are in a vulnerable state to turn them into her soldiers of spreading her darkness
it's basically a cult of glorifying depression and death
That's exactly what She wants xD. Oblivion.
Selune fought (and lost a sh*t-ton of power) to save existence/life. Where Shar stayed strong of her selfish interest.
What a beautifull scene. Love that if you save Nightsong, it's grandiose, beautifull, captivating. Where if you don't and kill her, there is not cutscene, no music, just a dark (short) moment.
Its so nice to see you play this game, thanks for that. I already finished it in a some kind good ending. The story is very good.
Glad you enjoy it! 😊
The video I have been waiting for is finally here!
Ooooh, I've been waiting for this part. Epic part of the game.
Such an epic cutscene!
Dame Aylin is in my top favorite npcs in this game, her lore, her badassery, so freaking good!
I know right! She’s awesome 😊
This moment still might be the highlight of the game for me. It's hard to choose, but the intensity of Shadowheart's decision followed by the cutscene of Aylin restoring her mother's light to the cursed lands?? Mind-blowing.
aweeeeeee shadowhearts little moment of opening up is so cute 1:00:18
When I did this I just said nothing and did the trust shadowhart option and she still threw the spear away
This girl gets confused incredibly easy, good lord
I love that you had the SAME reaction as I did when I saw that 30 persuasion check lol, but its so rewarding that whether you can hit the persuasion check or not, Shadowheart will do the right thing as long as you've built a good enough relationship with her
This is where the story starts taking off hardcore, it's so awesome. It feels like where all the Diablos and Baldur's Gates usually end.
Dame Aylin is so cool.
LOL "This thing is kinda cool." - Referring to the Blood of Lathander. An item which gives you a get-out-of-death-free card once per day, gives you a 6th level spell well before level 11, and blinds any undead in range (giving them disadvantage on attacks/checks)... And available super early on. That thing isn't a melee powerhouse by any stretch but, in the hands of a caster (like a cleric), it's absolutely busted.
IMO it's way more impactful to let Shadowheart make the decision on her own
WOW that 30 roll was LUCKY
I wish my laptop could run it, cause your gameplay makes me wanna buy it even more❤
It comes out on console soon!
I'm on my second playthrough and it hurt so bad to encourage her to kill the Nightsong ... but my evil playthrough must be complete!
I’m gonna have to do an evil playthrough some day 😈
BTW just wanted to let you know that Halsin can use Medium armor as a druid. He can be much much sturdier if you get him out of those robes. He is a moon druid so his main focus is not on casting spells but it is on transforming into strong animals. If you use his Wildshape that is on the right side then you can choose more powerful animals than just the bear
Thanks for the tip! 😊
You can actually cause Shadowheart and Laezel to become best friends after this.
- You need to first stop them from even having the killing cutscene - or have very high relation between them so Shadowheart spares Laezel herself without interference.
- Laezel also becomes a lot nicer after the creche Quest, and she can very much relate to Shadowheart after this point.
I feel like If my main character had not romanced her Laezel would have done
it in my playthough. (Oh and Wyll Romanced Karlach in my Playthrough)
Interesting! I'll have to have them become friends on my next playthrough!
Wait there is approval ratings BETWEEN origin chars?
Where are they?
I don't think that fight cutscene is ever avoidable.
@@EchoObserver9 I dont exactly know how it works, but your Origin characters react to your actions. In my case, I went to the cresh very early, and after that, Laezel is much nicer, and Shadowheart does not hate her as much, similarly Shadowheart got a lot nicer after starting her romance. So jeah, it kinda never triggered.
I can't bring myself to kill nightsong so I was so worried during that exchange 😂
I would have felt so bad I'm really happy Shadowheart didn't do it!
As a moon druid I was trying so hard not to judge her on her shar love lol but I jumped on the opportunity to persuade her to go against her. 😂 Can't wait to do an "evil" playthrough though.
There's never a way to talk through it with chaotic or neutral evil characters; unless you are deceiving them until the correct moment. They will backstab everyone; even allies. Lawful Evil is really the only evil alignment that will keep their word, but theres often a catch.
You wanna take out as many of those skeletons as possible before your turn is over cause even though they're weak, that damage adds up
"imagine if shadowheart would have gotten stabbed in the neck by Lae'zel" ... just imagine how much such content is out there for Lae'zel as well haha
In that combat with Balthazar, I was yelling, RING THE BELL! I really wanted to see if Flesh would kill Balthazar for you since you had his bell. hahaha
There is a book you can find many copies of in the game, titled The Unclaimed. It tells the story of a cleric of Shar who did all Shar's bidding, gave up her memories to become worthy, but in the end, Shar abandoned her, teaching her the final lesson of being forgotten. The book is a foreshadowing and warning for Shadowheart. This is exactly what would have happened to her if she became a Dark Justiciar. Shar is a really nasty goddess.
I got chills when the Nightsong transformed. I loved Shadowheart's redemption.
Selune approuves
There is something wrong with people who talk over this scene
Groundbreaking news: killing the necromancer has a high chance of ending the threat of his summoned minions...
That didn’t work for me when I played through here, but it did make the fight easier
@@fraelikkriil830 Strange. I fought him before entering the prison and it worked for me.
In my playthrough, i killed her here. I couldnt convince her, and was totally blind so i thought she was going to do it, and had to try and stop her. I was very sad.
You need to save nightsong from him.
You really need to learn to use haste on your grp and prebuff after every longrest with Aid, Longstrider. Those buffs lasts untill the next longrest apart from haste buy that is the most powerfull combat buff in the game
I don't know how to say this, but your face is so beautyfully put together, if that makes sense... 😅
THAT CRIT THOOOO!!!
Big dam 😎