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Solution 24 teams , 4 six team divisions, you play your division every year and rotate the other 3 each year.
Yes
The B1G just got rid of conferences. We can now have games like Ohio St/Oregon. There is not a selling point of going back to severely limiting the games that can be played
There could be logistical reasons supporting a return to two divisions. The old B1G West had no blue bloods.Wisconsin and Iowa dominated
the west,but neither one could stand up to Michigan,Ohio State,or Penn State. The adoption of Oregon,USC,and Washington to the B1G has added
conference winning programs that would give a new 9 school B1G West a credable chance at winning the B1G championship while also reducing
travel costs to and from the west coast.
USC,Oregon, and Washington all have reputations as blue blood programs whose alums expect to compete for championships.
NEW B1G West
Oregon, Washington,USC,UCLA, Nebraska,Iowa, Minnesota,Wisconsin, and Northwestern.
New B1G East
Michigan,Ohio State,Penn State,Michigan State,Rutgers,Maryland,Indiana,Purdue, Indiana, Illinois.
Schedule would be 10 conference games with 8 division games followed by 2 out of division games which means each division plays the out of division schools every 4 to 5 years,while protecting most of the biggest rivalries in the overall conference. Sure the Little Brown Jug game between my Gophers and Michigan would become a twice in a decade thing,but Minnesota hasn't been competative against Michigan the last decade anyway.
That leaves two FSC games as tune up games and eliminates an out of conference power 5 game. Since multiple B1G and SEC schools are going to
get playoff spots in the expanded playoffs, wouldn't it be better if we limit or eliminate regular season matchups among Power 4 schools?
I agree with you, James. One of the major reasons for bringing in all these high power teams was to have them play each other more often to realize the media value of having Brand vs Brand. By sequestering teams into 10 team divisions, you lose the flexibility of arranging those high value matchups more often, lowering the overall value of the conference's media potential.
It seems like with this plan, there are hardly any cross divisional matchups at all.
I don't want to see all the former Pac teams play each other all the time. We've seen that for a century already and it gets old. Let's arrange more of these big brand matchups as often as possible. That's what the public wants to see.
@@TheLAGopher First of all, I don't care about travel costs. At least not for football. The eastern teams only travel west once a year anyway. If they instituted divisions for all other sports, I'd be all for it. For football, besides rivalry games, leave it wide open! Second, I would love to have more B1G/SEC in season matchups. There should be a battle weekend where they matchup all or most of the teams from the two conferences. That would be a blast! Alabama/Michigan. LSU/Penn St. Oregon/Tennessee. Also, it would keep USC from backing out of those games. The prime games could be played neutral field. It would be like having mid season bowl games. The teams that don't match up could even play against the Allstate 12 or the Both Coasts Conference teams. Third, I like the idea of having the two best teams play in the championship at the end of the year. I want to see it happen for at least 10 years before they try to go back to divisions again
@@slten12 You are preaching to the choir!
Agree. Conferences are archaic and serve no purpose for football.
I appreciate the work the creator put into this video, but the B1G isn’t going back to divisions. It’s self limiting and offers no substantive value. Even the creator admits there is imbalance.
Get rid of the OOC games and play a straight conference only schedule.
No way that happens for a number of reasons also very boring
There’s no chance of that bc games like Iowa vs Iowa st. Or Oregon vs Oregon state. Other teams r rivals with notre dame. Nebraska vs Colorado. USC and ucla probably would wanna play some former PAC12 schools as well.
If they go to divisions I bet they go to 4 5 team divisions..that way you can mix it up The schedule where each would play
That will happen once they form a super league
Only if the SEC is forced to also.
I am ready for FSU to go to the Big 10.
Boooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Agreed Booooooooo!
Cant wait!
Nah let them stay in the south
Soooo, what you’re saying is Big Ten:
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
Indiana
Purdue
Florida State
Notre Dame
And the PAC 10
Washington
Oregon
USC
UCLA
Nebraska
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Iowa
Northwestern
Illinois
Sounds like 1978 all over again, albeit slightly different teams.
You could substitute FSU for "The U" aka University of Miami and still work. Old days of hearing Catholics versus Convicts rivalry of late 1980's and prime days of the mid 1950's to early 1990's reignited.
Looks like FSU going be all over the country
Maybe four five team pods would work. All 5 teams in your pod play each other and rotate pods each year. That way all teams are playing each other at least every 3 years. Not a fan of more expansion but at least this way all teams would play at least 3 times in a decade. Just a thought.
This is the way.
I'd add FSU & UNC (fu*k ND). It sets up nicely......
East
FSU-UNC-PSU-Mary-RU
Mideast
UM-OSU-MSU--PU-IU
Midwest
NW-Ill-UW-Minn-Iowa
West
UN-OU-UW-UCLA-USC
Nebraska would have to schedule non-conference games with Iowa to keep the rivalry.
agree! been saying this. Pod system/four 5-team divisions way better than two 10 team divisions. More opportunities to play the other teams in the conference regularly.
Pods would be the answer. You would play the 4 in your pod yearly, then two from each of the other pods. 10 conference games a year. Then have a 4 team conference playoff.
The problem with that is that the two losers of the conference semifinal playoff, would have played one less conference game than the two teams that won and move on to play in the conference championship game.
Meaning you just screwed over your 3rd/4th place teams from effectively getting a chance at the 12 team CFP. Unless they played each other the following weekend as well, before the conference championship game for 3rd place in a game that exactly 0 people would watch outside those two fanbases lol
@@TheLwaller09 ppl would watch at worst, it'd be just as televisible as any conference regular season game. It wouldnt need to be marketed as 3rd place. And if anything, in a strong conf season, playing for 3rd in B1G would probably be considered a play-in for the playoff.
Rotating pods by historical strength. Keep historical rivalries. 10 conference games. Go to 24: FSU, Miami, UNC, Clemson (or whoever UNC prefers of Clemson, Virginia or Duke). Then ND + Stanford. Never expand again. Hold B1G championship in Dallas or Houston for recruiting help and to be unbiased. Let’s go!😅
Four divisions would be better IMO
2 divisions of 10 teams is a bad idea just keep it the way it is NO DIVISIONS
I think the Big Ten will get to 22-24 teams. I have my best guesses on those 4-6 more. However, I do not favor going back to any divisions or pods. Actually, if they expand the playoffs to 16 teams, I prefer to have no Conference Championship. Just designate one based upon win/loss and tie breakers. If they were to go to a 16 team playoff, the Big Ten would get 4-5 teams into the playoffs and I really don’t see the point to continuing with a Conference Championship game.
So if you have 24 team league How are you gonna have a true champion? When you don't play half the teams or more in your league that's ridiculous.. I think it's ridiculous now that you don't play nineteens. And eighteen team league. You tell me how it's fair that some teams this year. Don't play Michigan, Ohio State and Oregon on their schedule. That's a joke ., So that team easily could win 10 games and have a chance of the playoff. That's ridiculous.
@@JohnMandock I explained it in my comment. Things change. They are changing now in college football. By of definition of change, they will not be the same. You and others that don’t like or are resisting the change will never be happy with the change unless you reach a place of acceptance. You have no control over the change. The players are driving the change because of the lawsuits they are filing and winning. The power conferences are expanding for leveraging media deals that will bring in enough money to accommodate the changes while surviving as a power conference. Expanded playoffs are a part of that. That means more games and a longer season. That waters down the significance of a conference championship game because there will be up to 4 and maybe even 5 teams from the power conferences in the playoffs. Besides the reduced significance, it doesn’t make sense to take more time up and players efforts up on a conference championship game when their season is being expanded by more playoff games. You’re never going to get a perfectly fair scenario in any of this, fans/people that get hung up on having to find/reach some kind of fictional “fair” scenario will always be frustrated and hung up on it. Nothing is perfectly fair in an inherently imperfect and unfair world. Nothing. Let go of it or, like everything else in life that isn’t perfect or fair, it will eat you up alive if you can’t accept that and let go of it.
B1G needs to add two more good teams so that their name makes sense again, since only half of the conference will be relevant.
I think it’d make sense for the B1G to add Notre Dame and Stanford. Then you don’t play in divisions; each team has 4 locked in opponents based on rivalries and region (for example Notre Dame would play USC, Stanford, Purdue, and Michigan every year) then the other 5 games are rotated through the remaining conference opponents every year. If done correctly, every team would play each other in a 3 year span (5 years if you do home-and-homes before rotating).
I have a feeling that the last domino to fall in landing Notre Dame is taking Stanford. The B1G would have all of the Irish's main rivals locked up. Personally, I think Notre Dame would play USC, Stanford, Purdue and Michigan State. ND/MSU has been played a lot more than ND/UM.
I would love FL St and ND to come in. ND is in the heart of Big Ten. Travel would be a lot easier. Fl St is a good fit for Big Ten despite distance.
Better Schedule solution ! NO NON CONF GAMES all 12 Big ten games. 9 in your division, 3 in other division. Our non-conference will be in the playoffs.
better strength of schedule, keep rivalries in other division.
You have to compare records playing against the other division otherwise a comparison makes no sense.
ND,UM,OSU,PSU & FSU are too much in one division.
It works better with 22 teams and no divisions.
Three protected games by rivals or location. Same every year.
Play the other 18 teams on a three year rotation. 6 per year.
Leaves 3 out of confrence games.
Best two teams play for the championship.
Decent model, but leaves open the issue of frequent ties for championship game appearance with no head to head.
@MarkRogersVOCFB with 20+ teams, it's going to happen regardless. Tiebreakers would be confrence wins, then the strength of the schedule wins. It happens already.
Works even with 10 confrence games and 24 teams. Same set up. Play everyone every three years.
If you want to go to 20 teams, kick out Rutgers, Northwestern, and Maryland. Add Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida State, UNC, and Duke.
Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Wisocnsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA, Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida State, UNC, Duke.
lol...where does this shit come from?
ND ain't joining the B1G - they didn't need the ACC and they sure as shit don't need it anymore with a 12 team Playoff
and B1G ain't going back to divisions ..they sucked and we all saw that.
Not buying these numbers, for example, when was the last time a west team won the Big Ten? OSU and Michigan have dominated the last ten years. The numbers are flawed also due to the west overall being weaker. Penn St. would have dominated the west many of the past 10 years, but then not so much in the Big Ten championship game. Just my opinion. I do like the idea of getting some combo of ND, FSU, North Carolina or Clemson in 👍🏼
No east/west for me.
Eliminate non conference games.play 13 games (every 3 months has 13 weeks). 9 division and four opposite division. Every 5 years you play home and home with each other division.
I don't see much value in non conference games going forward. I would say the B1G might consider treating some football games against conference members as nonconference games. You need to keep as much revenue in house as possible.
Games against Big XII and ACC schools don't make sense economically. The stadiums are smaller and travel cost can be expensive for coastal schools.
There hasn't been enough out of the box thinking on scheduling.
6 or 8 team B10 conference playoffs. Start it two weeks before the conference championship.
Each team leaves their last three games open with tentative opponents And if by the end of week, nine, which ever teams qualify for the playoff start in the playoff. The teams that lose can play their tentative open schedules the teams that win will continue on. Now you have a playoff system without adding games to the schedule.
The only guaranteed outcome is that the Big10 will take care of OSU and MI.
Big ten won’t expand again unless it’s ND
Yes please
Everyone wants their protected rivalries. Bite the bullet, get rid of the protected rivalries, and you play everybody else once every two years.
The two 10 team divisions still has the same problem as before, despite what was stated, the west division winner still gets an easy ride. The numbers are deceptive since the western division played far more games against weak teams. There is not a competitive balance, sorry Mark. I still gave you a thumbs up for trying.
Wisconsin was getting easy rides the last few years. Not gonna happen in the new big10 west division. It's now gonna be either oregon or usc going to the conference championship games every years
I 100% agree with no divisions. However, look at some of the schedules this year. There is a very real chance a team like Rutgers or Iowa makes the B1G CCG. It's not because they are great, it's because they have very soft schedules. There is no way around the soft schedules.
@@bullyear1973 HUH USC....not a great take. Reggie Bush is now on Fox not playing football. USC has not been relevant in years. Yet you slam Wisconsin, far better than USC in recent years. Wisconsin would still be VERY completive in the "new" Big Ten West.
Arizona is now Big 12 so my concern is there. I love Yormarksdesire to go coast to coast with uber teams! And an eye on basketball! In that situation I have 3 divisions, mostly intended for use in the Non-revenue sports. Division Ratio 14/3/3. Reduces travel costs and wear & tear. B1G should also consider Esst, West & Central Divisions.
My West would be Gonzaga (noFb), Colorado, Utah*, BYU*, ASU*, Arizona*, TCU* & Texas Tech*.
My Central would be Marquette (noFb), Louisville, Iowa St, Oklahoma St, Kansas St*, Kansas*, Baylor* & Houston*.
My East would be UConn (noFb), Cinconnati, WVU, Virginia Tech, Duke*, NCST*, UCF* & Miami*.
21 Football schools, 3 games in Division. 5 games in other 2 Divisions. 1 Semi's (4 v 1 & 3 v 2, per records) & match-up games.
24 Basketball schools. 2 Coaches Poll 1-3, 4-6, 7-9... 22-24. 6 non-con. 23 Regular Season Round Robin. Holiday, Big 12 & NCAA Tournaments.
Why would Tier 2 ACC flight risks go to the Tier 2 BIG12?
No thanks on divisions. Rutgers finally got away from OSU, PSU, and Michigan. Rutgers will probably win at least 10 games this year and that's good for the B1G. Let the lower and mid tier teams mostly play against each other to build them up.
Why does Ohio State need to play Indiana every year? I can't think of a single valid reason. Realignment is about money and the money wants to see the big matchups, not Ohio State thrashing Indiana. Let Indiana build up to an 8-4 team, then they can get a shot in the future.
Which Indiana was becoming somewhat respectability pre Covid
I totally disagree. It's a joke That you only play 9 teams in your league. There's 18. How do you get a true champion. So you're gonna tell me someone that doesn't play Michigan? Ohio state Oregon 10. That's not really a 10 win team. That's a team that boasts the record being scrubs. And that team better not make it to the playoff. But you'll have better teams with 3 losses. That would beat that team easy. I don't want to hear your garbage.
Well as a Minnesota fan I’m not too fond of it but seriously Minnesota is only an after thought anyway so I, like most Mn fans will probably just lose interest and worry about our five professional teams. Sorry CFB, you just out greeded some of your fans. Honestly, except for the novelty of occasionally playing a west coast team USC and UCLA, Oregon and Washington don’t do much for me. BTW, looking at TV coverage I need to buy five different streaming services to see the first five games, some of which I’ve never heard of. Thanks but no thanks.
@@DefaultModeNetworkWe need the Golden Bears vs the Golden Gophers!!!🙂
My understand is that the powers that be want the two SUPER conferences at 24 teams each. Then playoffs within each conference with the winners of each playing for the Natty. It'll be a mini or minor leagues formatted after the NFL. I'm not a fan of that concept, but I'm hearing that that's the ultimate goal here. I haven't seen too many that say anything contrary to that happening. Personally, I see that scenario ruing college football. However, I've only been a fan for some 50 plus years now.
That has been my thinking since the TX/OK news, but I'm not leaning towards the SEC/B1G only going to 20 each.
How does this effect College Basketball & Baseball
No thank you, we just got rid of the divisions.
Didn’t they just get rid of the divisions.
What if Clemson and FSU goes to the Big Ten than where would that put ND?
The same Fantasyland?
Divisions equal no competition
As with the SEC, annual rivalries are an important factor to scheduling. From reading the comments, very few have tried to incorporate them into their scheduling ideas. Most of you say your 4 pod mates, another pod all together (or some random makeup for the other 5 games).
Personally, I would HATE not having them yearly on the schedule.
&, like I tell my fellow SEC fans: WHY should a CONFERENCE rival NOT be played as a CONFERENCE game & treated as a non-conference just to appease others?
North Carolina not Florida state
No divisions, H/H, pct, common opponent tie breaker. 2 OOC games with 9 scheduled and with 3 weeks remaining schedule the 10th game (mini playoff).
Colorado alum here, with all the bias that comes with that allegiance. It seems like 20 teams is good, but 24 would be better. Add Notre Dame. Then take the 4 most “Big Ten” schools left on the board and grab them. That’s UVA, UNC, Colorado and Utah. You would then have a presence in - and third viewing window for TV - with owning the rapidly growing Mountain Time Zone. And you would add balance to the eastern seaboard. All these schools are absolute cultural and academic fits - all AAU-accredited, flagship state schools. And while academic matter less and less in college football, the Big Ten expands their reach without compromising their defining principles.
What’s more, you could easily break up the teams into 4 6-team regional pods to preserve rivalries.
Think of this:
WESTERN
Pacific:
Washington
Oregon
USC
UCLA
Utah
Colorado
Midlands:
Nebraska
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Iowa
Illinois
Northwestern
Central:
Indiana
Purdue
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Notre Dame
Eastern (ACC revival)
Penn State (could be flipped with ND)
Rutgers
Maryland
Virginia
North Carolina
Florida State
Would this approach be appealing? Or, would this dilute the brand by making it a truly national conference?
If the B1G gets larger than 18 teams, I see the sport turning into a 3 prong version of the NFL...SEC, BIG 12, B1G. Each then has 3 divisions that then represent your seeding for the playoffs and divisions in the conference not affectedby lack of play withintheconference. Top record in each division gets 1-9. 10-12 go to best record g5 teams.
If I ran the Big Ten, I'd make a major play to be a truly national brand. Bringing in Florida State, Clemson, and North Carolina seems obvious at the moment. What's not so obvious is that the Big Ten has a real shot at becoming the dominate brand in the State of Texas.
Texas Tech & TCU would be easy to pick up for spots 22 and 23 BUT I am willing to bet the Big Ten could also persuade Texas A&M to leave the SEC after the SEC went back on their word and allowed the Longhorns into the conference behind the Aggies back.
With A&M being tied with Texas for the biggest brand in the State, then Texas Tech coming in at a solid #3 and TCU being in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, the Big Ten would over night wrestle the State of Texas away from both the Big 12 and SEC.
I will prolly get hate for this but I'd love the SEC and Big Ten to both expand to 20 teams and split from the rest and create their own league with them as the two conferences (like AFC and NFC). Then gimme a 14 game regular season with 11 conference games with a 3-8-8 scheduling model. No divisions, 3 protections, and everybody plays everybody over a 2 year span. 1 non con game against a cupcake, and 2 non con games against teams in the other conference that finished around where you finished the previous season like the NFL does it.
Don't have a singular conference title game and instead have an NFL style playoffs with 14 teams qualifying. 7 from each conference with the #1 seed in each conference after the regular season getting a bye. You play through the playoff bracket with postseason games hosted by the higher seed. The conference title games are basically NFC/AFC title games. U can have those in Indy or in Atlanta if you want. Then the champions of those conferences play in the natty (Superbowl) to end the year. The winner is crowned the national champion
This model gets rid of a subjective committee and subjective rankings, takes scheduling out of the hands of the schools, balances schedules every season to make sure the best teams are playing each other consistently, and maintains the purity of CFB rivalries while also having the chance to create new ones.
Forget outside conference games. 12 conference games. Nine with those in your division and three in the other division. on rotation.
Larry Bass / M’67 / Sacramento
Good Morning from Dublin! I hate to say this but 4 pods of 6 teams 6 pods of 4 teams (24 total) is easier to manage. If SEC adopts the 24 team league also, then pod swapping for non-conference becomes very easy. Time will tell, but I believe we are headed to 24 teams in the SEC, B12 and B1G.
You are putting OSU, Michigan and Penn State back together in one division. They should be spread out.
So they would never play each other? 😂 how do you imagine that's going to go over with those tv partners that just unloaded the Brinks trucks for that shiny new media rights deal?
@@TheLwaller09 I wouldn't say never. The schedule this year has Michigan playing OSU but not PSU. This would change from year to year.
There is no way ND joins a conference with one of their biggest rivals (USC) in the other division that they're never able to play unless they both make the Big10 title game in the same year. Because that would almost guarantee they would rarely if ever play.
I don't claim to have a solution, but that's not going to work. It would also be insanely tough to have them play a 10 game conference schedule and maintain their Stanford rivalry given that Stanford has a new ACC (for now) schedule to manage and finding when they could play if ND only has 2 non-con games they can schedule.
If you're trying to get the prettiest girl at school to go to the dance with you, you can't offer her dead flowers and expect her to say yes. Killing two of their biggest rivalry games in one decision isn't going to make ND want to jump at the chance to join especially when we know they're really as against it as they've always been, but their environment is changing so they may be forced to. But they aren't going to willingly agree to those things, no way.
Agree with pods ideas. But how about 5 5 team pods. Allows the B1G to have a southern pod (FL State, Miami, UNC, UVA, GA Tech). Play everyone in your pod and at least 1 team in the other 4 pods. Winner of the pod goes on to CFP. Best performer in CFP is crowned B1G champ.
I like the two 10 team divisions. However drop the three nonconference games, play all 9 division opponents plus 3 crossover games against the other division
Uva unc clemson fsu ga tech
With the advent of NIL eventually there will be none of the talented athletes playing for a university. Coirporate sponsored clubs will form like the soccer feeder programs in Europe. If a player can come out of hight school and make $500k his first year out, why would he bother to pretend to be a student somewhere when he can play and practice intensely befor moving up to the next lever of profession football? NIL nas already ruined the sport for me personally but we'll have to see what else develops in the future.
As a Terps fan, god no to divisions
Digest these changes for a couple years, then go to 24 teams in 4 pods. Then a few more years until it's 32 teams in both monster conferences (B1G, SEC). Let the scraps reform into a lower tier conferences, also with 2 - 32 team conferences.
If you want static divisions, it has to be 4 divisions of 5. Have a semi-final week and a championship.
Or...
Two divisions reseeded every year
I got it. 4 divisions with 5 teams each. Every year the divisions are paired up (east might be with west one year and central the next) and that forms your 9 game schedule. The best team from these 10 game sets meet in the B1G title game. The division that you play rotates every year, so you still see every team once every 3 years, and you still play your geographic division every season.
I've been in favor of this for awhile with 16 teams but would work with 20. Have 4 divisions of 5 teams. That way your 9 games are 4 within your division and 5 from another division.
Division winners play in a four team big ten tournament.
4 regions into 2 divisions
24 big ten 24 sec and 24 big twelve
Big ten
Big Ten: East Coast
- Rutgers
- Maryland
- Virginia
- North Carolina
- Georgia Tech
- Florida State
Big Ten: Great Lakes
- Penn State
- Ohio State
- Michigan
- Michigan State
- Indiana
- Purdue
Big Ten: Riverlands
- Minnesota
- Wisconsin
- NorthWestern
- Illinois
- Iowa
- Nebraska
Big Ten: West Coast
- Washington
- Oregon
- Stanford
- Utah
- USC
- UCLA
SEC: ATLANTIC
- West Virginia
- Virginia Tech
- NC State
- Clemson
- South Carolina
- Miami
SEC: East Gulf
- Florida
- Georgia
- Alabama
- Auburn
- Tennessee
- Kentucky
SEC: Delta
- Ole Miss
- Miss State
- LSU
- Vanderbilt
- Arkansas
- Missouri
SEC: Southwest
- Texas
- Texas A&M
- Oklahoma
- Oklahoma State
- Baylor
- Texas Tech
Big 12
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Louisville
Cincinnati
UConn
Duke
Wake Forest
UCF
USF
Memphis
Tulane
Houston
TCU
SMU
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Colorado
BYU
Arizona
Arizona State
Cal
San Diego State
Next 16
FRESNO STATE
BOISE STATE
EAST CAROLINA
UAB
APP STATE
COASTAL CAROLINA
UTSA
TEMPLE
MARSHALL
OHIO
TOLEDO
AIR FORCE
NAVY
ARMY
OREGON STATE
WASHINGTON STATE
For what purpose an even larger and wider Tier 2 BIG12?
Reconsider the four five team division office and revisit please.
With four five team divisions, you'd play your four division rivals and one other division. Every division would be aligned against another division on a three year rotation. Each season, the two divisions that are paired together would provide one regular season champion. The other two divisions would provide the other. Using Ohio State and Oregon as an example and assuming they are in different division, one oof every three years they would fight for one of the regular season titles and a berth in the conference championship game. The other two seasons they could meet in the conference championship game.
This gives more combinations to championship games, and more regular season games with championship game implications.
Why do you need divisions ?
A Big 10 x 2 makes sense but if it happens there needs to be relegation if there are divisions and relegation means no shot at the playoffs to make relegation mean something. Preferably no divisions.
I think B1G should just go to 24 and 11 conference games.
No nonconference, play 2 cross-over games, and the 10 division games
Please no divisions. The Big Ten tried that and it was a dismal failure. The eastern division based on geography will end up being way stronger than the western and the idea of only playing some of these schools once a decade is ridiculous. No divisions. The only people that liked the divisions were those in the weak western division.
As someone who used to live in MI, they got more beef with Minn & Wisc than IU or IL schools.
No divisions!
MW division is all Indiana and Michigan schools. Wisconsin to central. We get Indiana v Notre Dame more often
At least you could play every team once every four years minimum
4 five team pods, each team plays all teams in their pod each year and rotates the other pods on a two year (home and away) schedule. Head to head for the paired pod winners determines who goes to championship game.
I can’t believe you picked Illinois at 16 this year in the conference.
Florida state and Clemson are heading for SEC
Curious... For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC (and B1G)?
Any setup that helps knock Iowa down to where it should be - 3-4 losses per year is where the world should be.
Have a 1/9/9 format. One rival annually. Nine teams on odd years. Nine teams on even years.
FLORIDA STATE AND MIAMI HURRICANE 🌀 TO THE SEC.
~0% chance
This is easy. Get rid of the conf champ game. With the expanded playoffs it is really not necessary.
The regular season scheduling flexibility is off the charts better with no conf champ game. Do it maybe in a context of 4 divisions, playoff expansion to 16 teams, no conf champ game and then automatic bid to 2 or 3 division winners.
Automatically avoids the possibility of teams playing each other 3 times in a season.
If no divisions then the same 2 or 3 automatic bids applies.
We need 3 - 24 team conferences, with 4 - 6 team regional divisions. 16 team play-off that includes conference championships, plus a wild card bracket of 4 highest ranked non divion championship.
As built on the existing SEC and B1G, only 2 ~24 team P2s are needed. The realignment is about contraction via consolidation. There is no longer a feasible path to a peer P3.
Why not just return to the post WWII original 10?
I want my PAC-12 back.
I’d like to give it back to you.
The universities would never agree to play Michigan or Ohio State once every 10 years. Too much money lost if those games don’t exist.
The only way a 20-team conference works is with 4 divisions of 5 teams each. Then you can schedule by playing one other division each year as well as your own every year - that solves the tiebreaker dilemma as well as not going too long without playing other major school. And you won’t lose the non-conference games.
Then the big 10 title game is determined by the top 2 division winners, and the other 2 division winners still get automatic bids to the playoff as lower seeds.
That’s probably the easiest way to do it but it would probably never happen.
20 teams, 4 pods of 5, then have a 4 team conference playoff.
@@hummushero9428 I almost did the same but that would greatly disadvantage the conference champ and runner up with one less week of rest and preparation than the rest of the field
When it comes to large unwieldy conference schedules, I think the Big Ten are already on the right track now with the flex schedule with only necessary protected rivalries. Divisions are not necessary and they can cause unfair, unbalanced schedules.
Penn State was only the 3rd best program in the B1G East, but if you put them in the B1G West, they might have won the division every year.
@@smh0825 well yeah it would only be suitable if each major conference adopted the model, and perhaps played a third place game, and also probably scrapped one Non-con game.
Yup, that West model is so much easier.
Everybody rambled about the PAC-12 dissolving, but really when Washington/Oregon followed USC/UCLA it all just became Big 10 Pacific Coast. I kinda like the idea of Big 10 being renamed "Big East" and "Big West" though we do need some cross-country match-ups. FWIW, I could see the Big 12 being renamed something like "Heartland Conference" and ACC maybe being "Coastal" (especially if it absorbs Washington St., Oregon St.). SEC basically stays SEC but says it stands for something like "Super Elite Conference".
5 team divisions
Much prefer a protected rivals model. Going to 10 conference games is not unreasonable.
How can and why would ND join to make a 20-team B1G? Low incentives from the ND perspective, too many entanglements with the ACC.
How about three divisions of seven?
I’ve done that video. Thanks Gregory.
@@MarkRogersVOCFB I probably subconsciously picked up that idea from you!
Your record comparison between conferences is weak. Ohio state predominately wins the conference, while Penn State and Michigan occasionally win the conference. The records are skewed by the lesser teams. You have to split up the top teams for real competitive balance. Again putting Ohio state, um and Penn state together makes one division so much more difficult.
MICHIGAN is predominantly winning now not Ohio State. Fool.
Now we are getting really stupid here having too many teams in a conference doesn't make sense now it's just my opinion so I don't want to hear anything about it i am just giving my input on this.
Clown world, fully agree.
They need to add CALfurd as they should have when they took Oregon and Washington. 🐻 🌲 🪓
Sounds like a manure out the SJ valley : CALfurd
get rid of maryland and rutgers and add cal and stanford
@@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc its too expensive to produce manure in California lol
@@robert5755 Nah. Keep that California manure out west where they belong.
@@robert5755 - agreed. We never needed those two to recruit east anyway.
Rip the band-aid off and drop NW, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland.
Then add FSU, Miami, Clemson, and ND
SEC drops Vandy and adds UNC
Merge B1G and SEC, 32 team super league, 2 conferences, 4 (4 team) divisions each conference. 12 team playoff, division winners get automatic bid. 4 at-large bids.
Request denied.
@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826the networks are about bringing the best brands to the league, so it doesn’t make any sense to have multiple schools from states like Indiana and Illinois taking up real estate. Eventually some are going to have to go
What would they call the NW, IU, Ill, Rut, MD, Pur, Vandy conference? 🤡
@@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc unwatchable
Love your analysis 😊😊😊
Promotion /relegation. Bottom team from a ten team league gets demoted to the bottom ten. Top league gets MORE money as bottom league gets G5 money.
You have to hope that the BIG will save more teams from the ACC then they did from the PAC. The embarrassment of Utah, Arizona and ASU joining the leftovers is still hard to handle for those schools, fanbases and academic minds. You are known by the company you keep and being associated with the likes of West Virginia, Cincinnati and Kansas St yells the world your brand is worthless!!! To have someone like Duke, North Carolina and any schools from the ACC with the leftovers would just be sad and disgraceful
The way those elitist four corners Pac schools (CU, UU, UA & ASU) look down on the rest of the Big 12 is how the Big Ten look down the four corners as scrubs.
The Big Ten wants to bring in exceptional schools that would compete at the top of the Big Ten, athletically and academically, like Washington. They don't want to bring in scrub four corners schools that will compete at the bottom half of the Big Ten, academically and in terms of viewership.
Well aren't we special
@@slten12”scrubs” that Ohio State only beat by a FIELD GOAL LMAO just say you don’t watch football🤦♂️