Was great meting you and the boss at HL. Looking forward to this years expo. I mentioned last year about using an engineer to map out the best min/max for the shed. I needed permits for exterior commercial awnings back in the 80's. Opened the yellow pages and found both a structural and airflow engineer to come write up the docs to pass. Cost me $200 for each and 30 years later still standing ;) Getting the perfect amount and angle of airflow thru the rows at a low cost shouldn't cost too much and eliminate the trial and error. Always my best to you and family.
Warm air does not mix with cold air. Air does not mix. Cold air has to come in at the bottom. Forcing the warm air out at the top. Reverse your air supply.
I drove a grain truck and tractors hauling grain carts to fill bins the size of your wet bins lol It is sure interesting how you and the brothers manage all the different aspects of the farm. I want to see the deer hunting videos now lol.
The ponies are too cute! I think it would depend. Maybe with a high nosema load you need a later poop flight, without it does not matter. A hypothesis only.
Mattias Wandel did some BoxFan and different Fan comparisons on airflow within a room. Mostly I think box fan next to the exit helped suck and move the air ? Or something like that.
You should try large window blinds that hang from ceiling to floor, you can change flow of air down each row of bees by opening or closing blinds. Just a idea to force air flow where it needs to be down each section.
Hust an ideal would be to run ductwork to the center of the hives and put it to where it will blow straight down, that way you would be pumping air through the hives from the center of them. Or just run ductwork from the intake and put registers where ever you want the air to be
I like cold air also, crispness is wonderful, how fast are you combining corn? You have inspired me to try wintering inside, all my smaller colonies and nucs I want to put inside, I am in southeast Michigan so warmth could be a problem for me, I feel like I could move them inside in December for 3 months or so based on weather. To be clear I need to be under 5 c?
I would think because you feed syrup to bulk them up for winter, there would be little difference with cleansing flights. If you had them bulk up on fall nectars like goldenrod, being high ash/fiber, cleansing flights would be needed to keep their home clean. This was a big issue in one of my yards where the area is completely all goldenrod in the fall and we had dysentary in all our hives over winter. We now have moved to heavily feeding syrup to greatly reduce the goldenrod intake and it has resolved our dysentary issues.
@@beebob1279 Depends on the honey. Spring honey is best, syrup is next, and fall honey the worst. But that also is considering they are collecting all wildflower/natural nectar and not crop blossoms. People that think bees do better on honey don't consider that once you take any honey, that theory is out the window. If bees were to develop a hive with no honey removed, the honey is stored in sequence of spring, summer and fall, and consumed in the reverse. Fall honey hopefully is consumed in the fall while bees can still fly for cleansing. Then summer and spring honey is consumed and held in till the next earliest cleansing flights.
Grammer in your title😉: "have" been... Great work, nice when the outside work is all done. Ducting experiments needed: we have the same issues in large greenhouses- need to cool in the center of "mass".
Would Ice blocks from outside stacked outside and moved to the inside slap middle of the shed to give that more uniform cooling and air circulation help any ? Or just too much hassle with melting snow....
Ian - Please forgive me if this is a stupid comment / question. I'm a bee fan, not a beekeeper. You mentioned that you wanted to keep the shed cooler this winter to keep the bees from consuming more food while they are inside. To me (again what do I know?), it seems counter-intuitive that lower temperatures lead to less food consumption. Humans burn more calories when it's cold to generate more internal heat to keep warm. Isn't that also true of bees? I read that the bees vibrate to keep the hive warm and that the vibrations are the main source of warmth in the winter. So the colder it gets, don't the bees have to use more energy to keep the hive warm? I would think that the more energy the bees use to generate heat, the more food they need to eat to generate that heat. In an outside hive, what is the temperature bees prefer without any brood in the hive? Maybe my intuition is wrong if, without brood, the bees prefer a colder temperature and therefore don't use any more energy than they would otherwise use to maintain a certain temperature. Thank you in advance for correcting any stupidity / ignorance on my part.
Warmer temps can encourage brood rearing which consumes most of the food supply. This dark cold environment stalls brood rearing. I’m an outside wintering beekeeper and in warm winters I need to more closely monitor my hive food supplies
@@hootervillehoneybees8664 And bring back all the problems that exist in another region? He's got it figured out and is making a pile of product. If he took it to Texas now he has to deal with Africanized genetics in his program. Those genetics won't survive the Canadian winter and he'll lose colonies.
Google 12" Dia. Flexible Heat Duct For Indirect Heaters, 25'L, as a jump off point. Maybe you could install it on the intake or exhaust. We've been using them for years to heat different areas of a tent for masonry work. We cut holes in the sides to get a little heat here or there. Easy to install and move out of your way, simple to store out of the way.
Absolutely great insight in to your grain storage facility. Thanks for sharing. I know nothing about this. 🤙🏼💥
Thanks for the explanation about the big steel silos and how they work. Very helpful for those of us with no farm experience.
Was great meting you and the boss at HL. Looking forward to this years expo. I mentioned last year about using an engineer to map out the best min/max for the shed. I needed permits for exterior commercial awnings back in the 80's. Opened the yellow pages and found both a structural and airflow engineer to come write up the docs to pass. Cost me $200 for each and 30 years later still standing ;) Getting the perfect amount and angle of airflow thru the rows at a low cost shouldn't cost too much and eliminate the trial and error. Always my best to you and family.
Back in the 60s it was a big improvement when Daddy got a AC D17 gas tractor to pull that old AC combine. Damn it I'm getting old.
Thank you Ian 💪🤙🐝🐝🐝🐝🎺
Extremely a nice setup !!
Always great to hear your thoughts as you work through these issues. Never a right call. Just gotta go with your gut every time!
I think that air change you made will do it... doent take much to change the dynamic.... Nice dryer system! VERY nice!
Warm air does not mix with cold air. Air does not mix. Cold air has to come in at the bottom. Forcing the warm air out at the top. Reverse your air supply.
I see your point, but it seems to work for him
If you get a warm day you could take some pallets outside for the day and let them cleanse. Then see if they do better in the spring.
I am surprised you don't have a full length tube fan moving air down the middle of you shed balancing air flows and temperatures
I drove a grain truck and tractors hauling grain carts to fill bins the size of your wet bins lol
It is sure interesting how you and the brothers manage all the different aspects of the farm.
I want to see the deer hunting videos now lol.
I want to see the hunting too
Keep it simple when ya can, it's a very good rule to run by.👍
*Cute Ponies*
*interesting grain processing content Ian*
What is that snapping Ian? Distracting from hearing you!
The ponies are too cute! I think it would depend. Maybe with a high nosema load you need a later poop flight, without it does not matter. A hypothesis only.
Mattias Wandel did some BoxFan and different Fan comparisons on airflow within a room. Mostly I think box fan next to the exit helped suck and move the air ? Or something like that.
One big popcorn machine
You should try large window blinds that hang from ceiling to floor, you can change flow of air down each row of bees by opening or closing blinds. Just a idea to force air flow where it needs to be down each section.
Hust an ideal would be to run ductwork to the center of the hives and put it to where it will blow straight down, that way you would be pumping air through the hives from the center of them. Or just run ductwork from the intake and put registers where ever you want the air to be
I like cold air also, crispness is wonderful, how fast are you combining corn? You have inspired me to try wintering inside, all my smaller colonies and nucs I want to put inside, I am in southeast Michigan so warmth could be a problem for me, I feel like I could move them inside in December for 3 months or so based on weather. To be clear I need to be under 5 c?
You’ll need to do half the shed early and half the shed late. Otherwise you’ll never know if don’t have something to compare against.
Was that the electric fence arcing in the background @ the 2 min mark.
I would think because you feed syrup to bulk them up for winter, there would be little difference with cleansing flights. If you had them bulk up on fall nectars like goldenrod, being high ash/fiber, cleansing flights would be needed to keep their home clean. This was a big issue in one of my yards where the area is completely all goldenrod in the fall and we had dysentary in all our hives over winter. We now have moved to heavily feeding syrup to greatly reduce the goldenrod intake and it has resolved our dysentary issues.
It’s found the feeding syrup like you do is healthy for the bees.
This is contrary to believing that natural honey is the only way to go
@@beebob1279 Depends on the honey. Spring honey is best, syrup is next, and fall honey the worst. But that also is considering they are collecting all wildflower/natural nectar and not crop blossoms. People that think bees do better on honey don't consider that once you take any honey, that theory is out the window. If bees were to develop a hive with no honey removed, the honey is stored in sequence of spring, summer and fall, and consumed in the reverse. Fall honey hopefully is consumed in the fall while bees can still fly for cleansing. Then summer and spring honey is consumed and held in till the next earliest cleansing flights.
@@breckdemers True. Which is why spring nectar flows are so valuable to the colony
Without running air through a condenser and removing the moisture it impossible to cool air.
Grammer in your title😉: "have" been...
Great work, nice when the outside work is all done. Ducting experiments needed: we have the same issues in large greenhouses- need to cool in the center of "mass".
Edited :)
look at a heat recovery system to capture the heat off the cooling side to feed back into the heating side. it can save you a lot of gas
I use no inputs to heat the shed. I actually need to better cool the shed
More Baileys.😊😊😊😊
Would Ice blocks from outside stacked outside and moved to the inside slap middle of the shed to give that more uniform cooling and air circulation help any ? Or just too much hassle with melting snow....
How do you harvest an process the canola?
Ian - Please forgive me if this is a stupid comment / question. I'm a bee fan, not a beekeeper.
You mentioned that you wanted to keep the shed cooler this winter to keep the bees from consuming more food while they are inside. To me (again what do I know?), it seems counter-intuitive that lower temperatures lead to less food consumption. Humans burn more calories when it's cold to generate more internal heat to keep warm. Isn't that also true of bees? I read that the bees vibrate to keep the hive warm and that the vibrations are the main source of warmth in the winter. So the colder it gets, don't the bees have to use more energy to keep the hive warm? I would think that the more energy the bees use to generate heat, the more food they need to eat to generate that heat.
In an outside hive, what is the temperature bees prefer without any brood in the hive? Maybe my intuition is wrong if, without brood, the bees prefer a colder temperature and therefore don't use any more energy than they would otherwise use to maintain a certain temperature.
Thank you in advance for correcting any stupidity / ignorance on my part.
4 degrees has been found to be the sweet spot in regards to most efficient energy usage
Warmer temps can encourage brood rearing which consumes most of the food supply.
This dark cold environment stalls brood rearing. I’m an outside wintering beekeeper and in warm winters I need to more closely monitor my hive food supplies
How about get a propane powered insect fogger and use mineral oil for smoke, and see which way the air is moving.
Need to get that boarder open looks like you have equipment to move it down to texas for the winter
Hell no!!
Why ruin something that works so well for him?
@@beebob1279 make more money what else would be the reason
@@hootervillehoneybees8664 And bring back all the problems that exist in another region? He's got it figured out and is making a pile of product. If he took it to Texas now he has to deal with Africanized genetics in his program. Those genetics won't survive the Canadian winter and he'll lose colonies.
Did the snow start falling?
Google 12" Dia. Flexible Heat Duct For Indirect Heaters, 25'L, as a jump off point. Maybe you could install it on the intake or exhaust. We've been using them for years to heat different areas of a tent for masonry work. We cut holes in the sides to get a little heat here or there.
Easy to install and move out of your way, simple to store out of the way.
I know we don't often disagree - so this might be a first. But it's More Coffee THEN More Desk Work.
LOL😂😂😂 ☕️ btw I love challenges to the norms. I love free thought and criticism.
Keep your youtube channel up ! Interesting stuff
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog THANKS! I'm trying - I bore myself sometimes...I can only imagine what the viewers think! 🤓
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog THANKS! I'm trying - I bore myself sometimes...I can only imagine what the viewers think! 🤓
Lol
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If it’s nice you are working in the fields you might not have time to move your bees
Hey Ian, are you aiming for 5 or 7 degrees Celsius now?
3-4 C
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog I am not entirely sure now, but didn't you aim for 5 in the past?
4, but a few degrees isn’t a huge difference
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Hi!!!
You didn't fix your fence 😂
Lol
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Quit hogging the snow u. lol.
Frozen corn equals huge head loss. Hate to see it but nature is a bltch