No spikes, No ascenders No Problem!! Use the lanyard crawl Tree climbing method Strider Tree
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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The carabiner he mentions is the DMM Ceros.
You mean I been climbing for years and never thought of that. Dope!
You make it look so easy. I get a panic attack when I'm 5 feet off of the ground.
You make climbing trees look so easy. I'll keep on practicing...
Keep at it and it will feel easy for you too !
I don't have any spikes or ascenders and have been climbing like this for a long time. I taught it to some of the heavier guys on the crew I was on and it performed well for them as well. Great video!
Good stuff! yeah its surprisingly ergonomic when done right !
Awesome. One of the things I like about what you are doing is that it automatically has redundant safety systems. That is, you generally have two attachments to the tree in the event that one fails or a mistake is made.
Thank you for sharing this.
You’re welcome! Yes redundancy is important, especially when cutting.
Nice Job! Thanks for taking the time to make these. Great approach for trimming healthy trees. No spike damage to the tree. Love it!
Pretty cool!
I like it!
Thanks for sharing,
Steve
very helpful tips.thank you!
Thank You!
Excellent, miss this type of content from you.
Thank you very much. Greetings from Brazil.
Nice to see this way of climbing. Thanks
Nice trick, Josiah. You make it look easy.
Thanks! It really is pretty easy when done right
That's really cool man. I like that 👍
This technique is awesome. I used it when i was learning how to use spikes, kind of used the top line as a backup so i could try faster spike and lanyard climbs.
Thanks for the video!
Just tried it out today... And it works easier than I expected! And it is still faster then run back to the car and get the forgotten foot ascender ;-) Thanks for the idea! Cheers Reto
Ive done this style of ascent back in the 90's but was very new and I was just figuring things out . great video young man ... 30 plus years late, as a tree worker, I found u tube haha I really enjoy your videos thanks for really good information ..
Joe
This is how I was trained when I received my certifications.
Thank you Frist time seen that ... I'll give it go ...
That looks like a lot of time and effort. I’ll just use my ascender. I’ll give the video a like to help with the UA-cam algorithm for increasing popularity to your content. I like your video content as a whole and how well you explain what you’re doing. 👌🏼
I have the DMM HitchClimber Eccentric & no spikes. I maneuver in 🌳 all the time like this. Usually when I get a saw up there I install a floater to choke off all the slack on my lanyard. I don't think I would ever get off the ground with just a lanyard. I now have a nifty SRT Lightweigjt system that comes with a foot ascender that I will never use. All I need is my hitchcord above my Trango Vergo with a left hand CT Quickroll & I ascend effortlessly. The hitchord & the belay lever gives me a smooth & safe way down while I have added redundancy. The SRT system is nice to have when u r up in the 🌳 in your main system & have to ascend to a different union.😅
Gonna try your technique this weekend. I’m a noob with no ascenders and climbing kills my elbows. This should help mitigate that👍🏼
Smoooooth operator!
Okay, that was neat. Never even thought to do something like that.....
This is great! I was curious if you have a method for climbing spikeless on spars? I have a few 40' hemlock trees that need to be pruned but they don't have any viable branches for ascending - they're all too skinny. I'm based in the pnw and most guys just spike up them but I want to have a better option.
If it's just for occasional use the cheapest and easiest solution I think is to use a couple of loop slings of suitable length choked around the spar as footholds, along with a choking tie-in for your main climb line. It's a bit slow, but definitely works. This if there's not a single branch you trust to throw your line over, and you don't want to spike (which I wholeheartedly agree that you shouldn't do on a prune).
I'll have to keep that in mind next time I climb
It’s a handy technique :)
Cool.
Cool
If I'm climbing an elm tree that's more vertical than spread, what's the best way to reposition the lanyard around the limbs as I encounter them? Is it as simple as just unhooking it, swing up and over the limb and carry on ascending? Repeat as needed. I have experience rock climbing and spelunking, but this'll be my first DIY tree removal project.
That’s it, more or less 👍🏼 there are lots of small subtle things to make that process easier but that’s the general idea
This is how I learned to climb the first time I ever climbed ! Actually climb on this more than spikes !
It really is an underrated technique. It can be done quite comfortably.
I've literally never seen this before. Cheers again Strider Trees
the most important thing you didn't show was when you reach your first tie in point and you need to set the next tie in point, you're are losing your second source tie in and you don't have gaffs just have your lanyard to hold you. if the tree is wet or the bark is slippery, not the best situation to be in when resetting ...other than that, awesome demo
This technique is best used on dry Days with trees that have rough bark.
Looks easy. Unsure whether climbing with such technique is easy in practice.
You beat us to this.
My mentor Matthew Herman of Lancaster Tree Care showed me this and we called it the Herman Monster Mash.
I use a Prusik on MRS it is great and puts the heavy lifting on your legs
Love the Zillion!
This a great technique but in the uk the trees are so wet getting friction on your feet can be tricky😊
That’s true, this doesn’t work worth a darn on wet slippery bark
Black Oak on a dry day is pretty ideal for this trick.
do you stay on MRS to rappel down using the Zillion? Awesome video!
You can if you want to 👍🏼
I've been doing that for a long time. I didn't know it had a name.
If I'm pruning andi don't want to put on a foot ascender i normally just footlock the tail of my line.
How do you like and compare that edelrid wood pecker rope??? Always wanted to try it..most places dont sell it spliced ?? Am not understanding why,? Its a 24 strand rope is it not?
This would probably be a lot harder on a dynamic rope, yeah?
Just hip thrust with a Prusik loop
Nice.
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What harness and chest rig are you using,like?
It’s called the vector chest X made by Edelrid
So can I just clarify please. When setting up you got your climb line over TWO crotches but on the SRT you tied a running bowline to give you a canopy anchor, how does that work over two crotches? Or had you re-positioned your climb line by then. When you reach your tie in point how did you advance your climb line?
I think he isolated the higher crotch.
Yes, what @janpodgornik353 said. I just isolated the second branch because if you isolate the lowest branch it’s hard to pull yourself up and over it when you get to it. SRT, you just base anchor after pulling your rope through the highest strong union you can manage.
Can you quickly descend on the first set-up in case of meeting up with a wasp nest as an example?
yes, as long as your primary climb line is long enough !
Can you do this on a straight tree?
Absolutely 👍🏼
what friction device are you using for mrs?
I’m using the Edelrid Megawatt in this Video.
@@Stridertrees the second device used? Where you threaded it through with throwline
Petzl Zillon
@@beezer1374 yes sorry the MRS device is the Zillon, but obviously that device isn’t “officially rated” for use with this particular rope. It works well for my use case however :)
Is the Zillon rated for MRS? Never knew you could use it that way.
It is rated for that, but technically only with the rope that it comes with. I have used it successfully with many other ropes. But that is not explicitly allowed by the manufacturer.
@@Stridertrees Gotcha, appreciate it thank you.
Technically it is not. Petzl states that the zillion is only to be used for positioning. After reading another comment I decided to grab my paperwork from mine, and it is true you are not to use that device with full body weight in that manner
@@joeycampbell7752 if you go onto the Petzl website, it will show a couple other ways to use the Zillon including as a positioner in a single line configuration. They indicate that the release of friction may be more sudden and must be managed carefully when use that way but they do not say it is unsafe. When used single line it is experiencing twice the load I am putting on it when using it like this, so that would make this plenty safe.
Why arborists don't just use some jumar type ascender with foot loop?
Good video ,but not new been doing that since the early 90s. It amazes me through out the years that everyone isn’t taught this first thing. Especially climbers today, all these young guys won’t have no idea what to do if they had no mechanical devices. Was going to hire a guy the other day. Literally the only knot he knows how to tie is a running bowline. Has been a climber for 10 years working for some big companies in the area, it’s a joke. I have trained at least 50 climbers in the past 30 years and the first thing I do is start off with a Blake’s. You should have to know all the basics before advancing to any mechanical devices.
okay so why not use the tech to your advantage? I know 5 knots and use 2 of them in my business. Knots are pointless when you have things like this to save you time and money. How did you learn? Someone taught you or you watched it on youtube. Give people a chance to prove themselves instead of judging them based off of knot knowledge
Technique= bodythrust?
See no difference
Body thrust is much harder on the arms but can be done over open air. This is an alternative that uses the legs more.
Per the manufacturer, I.E. Petzl the ZILLON work positioning lanyard shall not have rope movement in a loaded configuration, more than 0.4 meters. 1.3 ft... what you are doing on this video is dangerous, and potentially going to injure someone demonstrating inherently dangerous acts for public viewing
It’s also not supposed to be used with any rope other than what came with it… so I’m breaking that one too 👍🏼
I would also clarify that you have misread the instruction manual. The point you are referencing actually refers to the maximum “free movement” (in other words, slack) allowable in the system before it no longer performs to the intended CE specifications, when used under tension like this it’s quite safe and the failure mode both of using a different rope and of having too much “free movement” is to have the rope slip more through the device. In this way it is very forgiving, and has a built in warning to the user that they may be exceeding the devices holding capacity.
I agree with @wherecrisgo. I am reading this manual right now and it does say you are not to use the device as a primary climbing system. In a separate section it does say slack in the system is the skull and cross-bones symbol. Also petzl wrote several times that it is only to be used as a positioning lanyard.
Regardless of who's right and wrong you're admitting to doing something that might cause a failure with using the improper rope
I was confused about all of this. So I am looking at the pdf from petzl and @ wherecrisgo is correct!
A lot of practice really does make it worth it. I started learning SRS with this technique but I was literally inching everything advancement lol
what is that small zigzag looking device on your main line?
Petzl zillion