Do $50 Micro Amps Suck? | Marshall vs Fender vs Danelectro Shootout
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- I bought a bunch of Micro Amps from Fender, Marshall and Danelectro to see if they are just toys or can actually be used as real amps.
There are no surprises I think but the test was still interesting!
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Marshall MS-2: thmn.to/thopro...
Fender Mini Tonemaster: thmn.to/thopro...
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On the Honeytone, the reason the power light was flickering is because the battery was running out of juice. The battery that comes already inside is pretty crap. If you put in a fresh Duracell or other decent brand 9V, the tones are much cleaner and louder. You may want to give them all another shot with some fresh batteries!
To be fair - on the label of the battery itself it did say it was a vintage power source. ;)
Marshall also makes a mini Full stack. The MS4. I have one and I love it for what it is. If you're expecting "good sound" forget it. But if you want something that will "amplify" your guitar to a volume you can hear or you just think they're cool. I love mine. I bought it expecting it to sound like crap but be a fun novelty. And it is. I do think the MS4 sounds a touch better than the MS1. You can also use headphones with the MS4.
A lot of independent pedal builders use those little Marshalls to test their pedals. A lot safer than testing something through a 200W amp.
@@TylerJohnstonGuitar I use mine when working on guitars for testing. I can see that.
Haven't watched yet, but i can tell ya the Dani is the loudest! Used em for years Ramblin around randomly rocking people! Very dry, but loveablely Crunchy! I've fried bout 4 of em over the years!
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The Boss Katana Mini is only a little larger and more expensive than those reviewed here, but it actually sounds really good!
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Had no power, I sent it back to the store.
It's quite a bit larger lol. I have one and it sounds really nice for the size. Good enough for me not to need to use my old park g10r combo amp
There's no such thing as bad tone but to this day the Blackstar FLY 3 is the only "Mini" amp I've heard that sounds decent, much bigger than the speaker should allow.
Cracking wee amps 👍
I agree entirely! I'm running a Bass Fly with the extension cabinet, and it does the job really well. It's actually got enough horsepower for small club gigs.
PS: I'm usually playing 6 string stuff....haven't tried it as a bass amp in a club environment.... Let us all know if you have, please?
( I suspect that, unless I was accompanying some newfolk lady on her Martin, I would probably want a little more juice.....)
No such thing as bad tone! Right?
Same here, only one I've bought that I really like.
I’m here cause I just picked up the Honeytone for 10$ from a pawn shop. Havent got to try it with my guitar but running my analog synth gives some great possibilities so much headroom really and just so nifty. Ive been gunning for the Pig Nose amp which a good dirt tone to own but i sure was ecstatic finding this Danelectro and despite the advise not to buy this, Im actually feeling pretty pumped and inspired not just to have something decent so cheap, but to see what the tricks this thing’s got on record and in the room.
Pig nose amps also sound great.
There’s no such thing as bad tone but I'd be interested in taking that fender, pulling out the guts (not the speakers) and putting it in a pedal enclosure and trying it out as a fuzz :)
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Someone once tried the marshall into the amp, that's alright but I've heard it with a dying battery and it is phenomenal. Rehouse the marshall and add a starve knob and you're there man I'm saying
Takes me back to the golden 60s rock sounds of listening through a clock radio.
I originally found out about these because I saw a post where someone used the red Marshall one as a prop in a miniature diorama, and so far that's the most practical use I have found for them lol
There's no such thing as bad tone, but small speakers make for unlistenable guitar tones. Having said that, these small amps make for EXCELLENT dirt pedals. At least the Marshall one does. There are a few videos on UA-cam showing you how to do that. It's a pretty interesting RAT-esque distortion! Btw, the MS-4>MS-2.
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There’s no such thing as bad tone but you realise that you need to make a Tonex/QC/Kemper capture of these 😂
I remember the cheap orange crush amps being ok… definitely better than this!
Maybe I already did... ;-)
Capture all the things. 😛
The saving grace of the Orange Crush Mini is that it can be connected to a 8ohm speaker cabinet and when it is it sounds a lot better as it has access to a bigger and potentially better speaker.
@@TroyNaumu808 I agree, that the Orange Mini Crush is better than all three of these together. Still not really good, but much better. Also it has an external cab plug, with witch you actually can get decent sounds from it.
"There’s no such thing as bad tone"
Yes, yes there is.
And we have recorded evidence for it in this video right here allready.
Don't even have to look far to find bad tone, easy to achieve.
The more it hurts your ears, the bader the tone is.
Easy as that.
I had a good chuckle when you said no close miking because no one ever puts their ears right up to one of those. I've made the same observation about youtube full-size amp demos that never use any room mics to demo the sound of the amps. With close mics and a little production, even a Champ can sound like a stack, so it makes gear demos pointless for anything other than showing how an amp can sound when recorded,... or if you put your ear right up to the speaker, lol
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I got a Blackstar Fly a few years ago just for messing around at home, looks and sounds great.
For someone who doesnt quite have the 6k to get my home elctric fixed (old owner kept putting in boxes...i have 3 fuse boxes in the basement and only one room with grounding) battery power is the only way to go (becuase fighting electicty is hard)
Finding that close-micing my Orange mini amp comes across on tracks like it's a "real" amp has got me fascinated with mini amps now.
I'm not sure I agree that "there's no such thing as bad tone" having owned the honey tone and having listened to the other two in the video. I own a boss katana mini and I love it. I also did the mod you shared, adding an output and have it running through a cheap Harley Benton cab that has a celestion Vintage 30 in it, and it sounds incredible for home use. Whilst it's a little bigger than the micro.amps features here, I would massively recommend the Katana Mini and the Harley Benton cab to all. Great video, as always.
Back in the analog world, I used a Marshall MS2 for crunch when mixing. Put in one of the aux busses, send the snare - sometimes the complete drumset - through it and add that to the mix. Another cool thing was to send the plate reverb return though it, that made for interesting results 😄
I fried my Honeytone amp cus they put a speaker that WILL fry it eventually, so I gutted the original circuit and put a tube amp inside it lmao
The reason why I say it WILL fry is because, according to the datasheet for the audio power amplifier IC they used in the amp (TDA7052), an 8 ohms speaker should only be used for up to an 8v supply. For 9v and over, 16 ohms should be the appropriate impedance. This is because at 9v, an 8 ohms speaker will draw too much current for the chip to handle, especially with heavy playing.
There’s no such thing as bad tone but I think the headphone output should have been tested. I have the NUX Mighty Lite, which sounds ok. When I run the headphone output into my Denon AV Receiver, coming out of my floor standing tower speakers, it sounds pretty good. I'd love to hear that Marshall output through a receiver. instead of using it's built in speaker. I'd also love to hear it with the cabinet output mod, driving a seperate speaker cabinet.
The Vox Pathfinder, though a bit more $, of course, is really miles above any of these by far for a beginner's practice amp. I was using one of those about 17 years ago
for just messing about at home, I could get a great clean chimey tone out of it, and even a great fuzz OD tone! No pedals. And it sounds great. I would stick with
something like that for sure.
yeah bro i have that amp its a very good amp for the price! plus its vox the beauty clean chime is awesome, a marshall mg10-15 is also good like the vox just a little more pricey cause the marshall name but worth it! .. as far as these go. this dude is using these amps is all wrong lol hes dimeing the volume to 10 and dimeine his guitar volume to 10 and saying this sounds bad lol, well ofcourse thats gonna sound bad its a 1 watt 3 inch speaker haha you gotta dial it in using the amp volumes and your guitars and find the sweet spot. a 3 inch speaker can only go so loud while sounding good. these are meant to be a in a hotel room or camping and u need a little amp to practice n mess with, they dont sound terrible when u dont dime them to 10 lol but i would reccomend the EVH 5150 micro stack :), cause anything ed signed off on is quality ;)
@@sleevelessace yeah diming out these minis is just not gonna give you a good tone. I've heard the EVH isn't bad. I'm glad I've graduated to stuff like my Vox VX50 amp, and a Roland Micro Cube, also have a Blackstar 10 watter and I can't complain about any of them, they're all great! But the VX50 is a real 50 watt tube amp and it has TONS of power, more than I'd ever need.
I have the Blackstar Fly3 amp (the Jared James Nichols version) and it's actually super useable. I can even plug it in to my amp through the AUX ports on each. The Fly3 has that speaker extender feature but it's basically and aux out and i can make the tones from it SUPER loud. There is no such thing as "bad tone" but.... I would suggest spending the extra 29 dollars and buying a Fly3 instead. :)
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I did the speaker out mod on the Marshall and tried it on the speaker on a 10" Marshall tube combo. Better, but still awful. Although cheap I regret buying this piece of crap :)
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Fun video!(there’s no such thing as bad tone!) I have a Pignose which I can recommend for a fun alternative.
There is a guy in the net who connects a 100 or 1000 (don't remember) mini Marshall...you have to see that...soooo funny
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The Honeytone is amazing for the broke guitar player. I've never been able to afford a nicer amp but for 30 bucks I can get some pretty good clean tones and wild distortion. I highly recommend it for anyone who, like me, can't swing anything nicer at the moment. It's loveable junk.
@@ggguitar. thinking bout getting one. I just need a mobile cheap toy in the house. Dont understand the hate. Ppl pay as much for a pizza delivered ffs...on a tight budget. Dont have my parents funding all my "needs"
I have a tiny NuX that has bluetooth and built in metronome. It actually sounds decent through the speaker and better with good headphones. It’s called the Mighty Lite BT for anyone interested in a good small amp.
I'd love to hear one of those connected to a better speaker. I'd bet that you could build a cheep MDF cab with a 6" speaker and really step up the quality of those little buggers.
I had the Marshall one ages ago... I feel that if they were anything BUT plastic, there might be a chance at them sounding good.. The plastic just makes it sound like, well, what it is; a speaker in a cheap hollow plastic box where everything is vibrating.. An interesting project would be to transplant them into, say, a wooden enclosure. But even then, I have doubts..
I have the Marshall. Purely for decoration purposes though lol
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Thanks mate. Interesting video and one that probably saved me a few quid as I was considering purchasing the Danelectrico mini amp.
But! No longer, thanks to your performing a great service to the guitar playing community.
Cheers, Brother!
Love my honey tone. I mean it is what it is. 20 bucks. Batt light flickering means the battery is about dead.
Was wondering what it would sound like through something like a two notes cab m? I would imagine some of those mini amps have a headphone or line out, could be used to connect it to the cab m and hear it through a virtual power amp and cab sim.
That’s a crazy silly idea. I love it
@@TheGuitarGeek reckon the ‘bigger’ virtual speaker and a virtual power amp would maybe somewhat make it sound okay……maybe? Could also try it with the new korg power tube reactor pedal (using nutube) to simulate a power amp, could be interesting into something like a tc electronic impulse for the speaker IR
Got the marshall one from goodwill for a few bucks- sounds great.
I just got one cheap. Cool right
I bet the headphone outs sound much better. That’s why I’m still considering one… maybe the Marshal or the Honeytone. Not the Fender.
Connect the MS-2 with a 1960 Lead 4x12...just use the cables from the Speaker inside and connect it to an 6,3mm jack - trust me, that's incredible fun! :D
But however...I have to say, I'm pretty happy with the MS-2...its sooo fun to use, undestroyable (uhm...okay...kind of...I mean while regular use and so on...I mean, mine is around 14 years old and still works like out of the box)
Surely, the 3 inch speaker doesn't sound like a 12 inch Celestion but...to play outside, it's still just a funny and usable amplifier to having fun! :D
Are there better options? Yeah for sure! If I have to recommend something in that size range (not price range), it will be the Bias Amp Go...but for that size and price, I'm still in love with mine :D
Best amps ever!!! My go to gigging amps from now on
There's no such thing as bad tone.....BUT, I have a few others that I have that are awful as well. What I have and enjoy playing with are the Orange Crush Mini, the NU-X Mighty Lite and the Spark Go.
I've got an Orange Crush Mini and keep it purely because it looks cool. I think it sounds better than these three at least though. There's no such thing as bad tone butt
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I picked up the Orange Crush basic 10-15 watt or whatever Amp, it's not a mini, but it's damned good. Can get a fantastic 70s hard rock OD or fuzz kind of sound out of it,
think "FREE Allright Now" that nails the tone.It's also good for a vintage clean sound, too.
I think it might be the size of the box, which resonates. If you plug the speaker out into a bigger cab, it might sound a lot better. "There's no such thing as bad tone!" I love "bees in a jamjar!" Nice upload!
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I practice with a fender deluxe mini, very similar to this. Usually with plexi pedal, and sounds surprisingly good
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Toys, the only battery amp under 50€ that sounds really good is only blackstar fly 3 mini
There’s no such thing as bad tone, but those little speakers are very limiting, I have a mini Fender twin, and I was rather impressed with the tone, all things taken into account. It is fine as a little headphone amp and looks cool on the shelf when not in use next to the mini Marshall.
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There is no such thing as bad tone...but that's a lie. That honey tone is hot garbage and any UA-camr that mics one up at a super low volume, runs it through a processors and claims that it sounds good is a liar. I wasted about $25 on one awhile back. Thanks for being honest. Katana Mini or Blackstar fly are much better options.
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(Twiddles knob) "God, that's rather stiff ... my Goodness ... " Sorry, couldn't help it ... :-)
you should try a Orange Crush Mini. They are great for the size.
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.. serious ... That little shit bring 30 Watt TMS ... If you believe or not ...my Metal meryles tough precise bass for fast rythm Massaker ...
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I completely disagree with this video. It’s unfair. They’re fun little toys, yes. But the Marshall MS-2 is great for cigar box guitars and diddley bo’s. One of my lead guitarists used to play thru the Marshall MS-4 (the 2 speaker version of the one shown here) live on stage with it mic’d up and it sounded massive and good.
Run the Marshall MS2 or MS4 thru a Peavey CS power amp into a Celestion V30 loaded 412 cabinet. Thank me later
There's no point in paying £50+ for a mini amp when you can get a of brand one for £20 that sounds the same
Could you do a review of the Leksto amp. It's cheap and small but the reviews and sound seem to be better than any of these amps.
I know your review is based on Guitar playing but the Daneletro Honeytone is excellent if you are a Harmonica player. You can get great sounds paired with a Green Bullet Mic.
Take the Honeytone, a CBG, add a lil' moonlight , a campfire and friends.....you'll find heaven on Earth.
I disagree entirely. The Daneletro Honeytone is a fantastic little package. Excellent for Harmonica as well as Guitar. I think we just have a purist doing the review.
I was given an MS2 as a present. Has anyone figured out whether it's possible to play the MS2 through a cabinet?
I tried connecting my MS2 to an Orange PPC108 but the headphone socket doesn't produce enough power to drive the speaker.
I have connected it to a PA system. The clean channel was okay but the OD channel produced a lot of hum.
Considering that you could spend an extra $30 to $50 and get a Blackstar Fly 3, or Boss Katana Mini, maybe even a Blackstar ID Core 10, yes these are comparatively a waste of money.
BUT, if what you want is a silly, fun thing that you can carry around the house or stick on a shelf, then these fill that niche :)
What about the portable battery powered micro amps on Amazon. Several are under $100 and look viable. Besides portable speaker technology has come a long way since these little novelty amps we first produced.
There's no such thing as bad tone .. but.. get a Roland Micro Cube. They sound good and they're portable. If you want new, than get a Boss Katana.
I have the Marshall one,and i have to admit,it feels more like a toy than anything.
But i also bought the boss Kitana Mini,and THAT is no toy,it may be a tiny amp but it does exactly what it's supposed toh,and it is indeed a small bedroom of practice amp.
The thing even though it's only 7 watts,has more than enough of power to take it Busking, which i do all the time.
This little amp kicks serious kiester.
As for the Marshall, well that's just a decorative piece of crap that i have hanging on my wall with my guitar and bass guitar collection
In one of the early videos that Philip McKnight did, he had modded one of the EVH versions of these to run out to a cab and it sounded great through the 2x12 he had.
John Hornby Skewes owns the Vintage brand of guitars. Not sure where the Danelectro connection comes from.
I can confirm they are all awful plastic garbage! Go for a Fly 3 or Katana Mini 👍🎸
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There's no such thing as bad tone but I just got a MS2 and was already using a NUX Mighty Air and although it sounds better in multiple effects and app support I am afuzz lover too so I am enjoying the Marshall. LOL
I've got a Marshall MS2, which I've had for years. I, altered the wiring to put an extension speaker socket in it, which disconnects the internal speaker and put it through a cab with a 12" speaker in and it sounds really good, especially on the clean channel.
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That.
The *amp* is yummie.
The *speakers* and "cabinet" are shite.
Ruining specifically the OD sound.
If you want it for clean to slightly breaking up blues tones then its nice out of the box.
Anything else you either have to use it as a pre-amp for OD or build a wooden cabinet for cleanish tones (didn't try that yet, but yeah, the plasticy sound comes from the plastic cabinet).
What impedance is he 12" speaker you plug your mini Marshall into?
@@jonneet2126 I think I used an 8 ohm speaker as that is what the original one is..
I would have mic them close because it makes em sound thin but i guess they all sound awful anyway 🤣
Granted, none of these sounded great compared to a dedicated full size amp, but for the form factor of something small enough that you can clip or attach to yourself for mobility these are almost your only options. Recently I got a Spark GO which blows all of these out of the water, it almost sounds like a full size amp and is actually smaller, but also costs 3 times as much.
Out of these I'd recommend the Honeytone; the sound clears up much better once you get a fresh 9volt in there and you can actually control the overdrive. Since they're so cheap, I got 4 of them to teach the kids at my middle school's guitar club as a simple solution to get everyone amped without having cables and cords laying all across the orchestra room.
There’s no such thing as bad tone but…with a simple mod you can put these thru a big cab and wow! whole new world(perhaps uninhabited but nonetheless)
Those are probably good as decorations for the music room.
Toys, every 9VDC unit is a toy. I bought every one I could find and have found that once you take the leap to a 6 cell “AA” unit they at least become usable.
I watched the head of Danelectro talk about the Honeytone at Sweetwater
There is no such thing as bad tone however, I have an MS-2 and it is gash it also buzzes like a jar of wasps without a string being struck 🤷🏼♂️
The only mini amp that’s currently on my radar is the Danelectro Bacon n Eggs. It’s a mini amp/distortion pedal that fits on your board. If I hate the amp, at least I might be able to use the distortion. Or vice versa.
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Perhaps with a bit of sand across the table, the HoneyTone could give you the full rotating Leslie effect. 🎯
There's no such thing as bad tone but these things do sound like what they are!
I was given a Mini Tone Master and tried it through a set of studio speakers. There they sound like a micro solid state amp through good speakers. It sounds alright, but I'll stick to my real tube amps. 😒
I use my mini Fender "stack" to test when im soldering wiring.
There is bad tone AND I am pretty happy with the Roland Micro Cube sitting on my desk. It never falls over and sounds pretty damn good!
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All of those sound terrible. They're like children's toys. In fact, when I was like 12, I had an electric guitar with a built in speaker that sounded about the same quality as those little amps. Guess where I bought it? That's right, Toys R Us.
I have one of those cheap £10+/- marshall style mini amps and I don't think it sounds any worse than that marshall mini amp. It has the same controls on it but looks more like a combo amp than a head and speaker style. The only thing that gives it any sort of identity is MA 5 underneath the power led. I bought it knowing how crap it sounds, with the idea of using it to put my own amplifier circuits in it.
There's no such thing as a bad sound.get the laney ironheart.6 Watts 4x 3inch speakers a micro stack,a real players amp.or the positive grid.all the ones you tested are shit.
There's no thing such as bad tone, but there is bad equipment producing trash sounds, and these are perfect examples of it. Buy a Blackstar Fly3 for not much more money and have an actual quite good mini-amp. Or bump up to a Pignose 7-100 and get something that will actually rock.
Oh give it a rest. They are fine and worth 20-30 bucks for an amateur just learning or to bring camping. Gotta review them for what you would realistically use then for.
Ah, yes. But let me jump in with praise for the HIWATT Desktop Bulldog. I have one, and can assure you all of its ability to kick the asses of your featured trio. If you can find one, get one.
i have the marshall and it can get the job done if u wanna play , clean tones sound decent but the od is.. not the best soundong but hey if ur in a hotel room and wanna jam or a similar situation ,camping,beach,etc BUT i just bought the EVH 5150 iii micro stack and there is nothing toyish about that thing its likev40% bigger then the ms2 it doesnt look as much like a gimmick as the marshall and sound pretty good ( wouldnt expect anything less from something with eds name on it tbh :D) and its in the price range of these guys i would reccomend the evh 5150 micro stack out of all these if you dont wanna spend boss katana or orange crush mini price on a amp like this
these seem like they'd be perfect for recording like, a 'lo-fi' intro bit, or something thats supposed to be coming out of an old radio or tv in some sort of visual media shot.
otherwise.. ehhh.
I suspect the honey tone has a power usage issue because you can put a brand new battery in it and it’ll be flashing like that after one song especially when it’s over driving and it’s always over driving the amp that fits in my case amp only
There's no such thing as bad tone, but I was disappointed with the lack of finesse you showed dialing in any kind of tone with those amps. I can't speak for the Marshall or the Fender, but I have a Honeytone so I know it can be done.
With the Honeytone, you should never run the volume over 50%. For a clean sound with the amp facing you, turn the volume to 3 o'clock, start with the gain all the way down and slowly turn the gain up until you get the tone and volume that you want. To get a crunch or distorted tone, increase the gain and possibly turn down the volume. Play with the tone nob to tighten up the bass if desired.
The weakest part of these amps is the speaker. They can't handle the output from the guitar. I also found that single coil pick-ups work best as they are cleaner and more articulate.
Positive grid spark go
I have a Fender mini amp packed away, different than yours here.
But either your Fender mini or the Honeytone, but more likely the Fender.
Please make a video where you use these as a preamp!
I would just say spend a $100 get the spark go. But that's just my opinion. I don't own a spark go. But I hear they're pretty nice and you have access to the tone cloud and the app and it runs just like the spark 40 and the spark mini And there's no such thing as bad tone
I have heard the Marshall ms2 sound better online video, maybe this one was a fluke?
I am a absolute beginner, your guitar playing is fine.
Now I seem to remember someone else doing a vid on these, the Marshall was terrible and the Fender sounded like a wasps nest in a jamjar. Let's see if they've improved any...
Edit : Nope...
There’s no such thing as bad tone, but the Blackstar Fly 3 is a brilliant little amplifier with surprisingly long battery life.
I used to have the Marshall back in the mid-90s. I only used it through the headphones. The speaker was trash.
The Honeytone is the real winner. With a fresh, alkaline battery, it can sound quite nice.
There's no such thing as bad tone, but, if you want good tone, get a Boss Mini Katana
I've got an old honeytone headphone amplifier. It's similar to the honeytone you have there but is more slim and doesn't have a speaker in it. It does of course sound pretty crap.
Should give the Donner Cyclops a go. Blow these off the desk.
with these amps you have to roll the volume back when u switch to od if u have it on max volume it will sound like garbage a 3 inch speaker can only go so loud espcially considering if ur guitars volume is at 10 usually like a pedal you have to find a sweet spot , u cant just dial tone n volume to 10 n hope for the best lol
I dunno, I have a soft spot of the lo-fi sound of the Honeytone.
Idk why my fender mini is playing the radio😂😂😂
There's no such thing as bad tone ...Might need to use mini amps like these as a curio...I think you should have compared these 3 amps to the Vox MV50 and Fender Mustang Micro for "a fair shootout"
'There's no such thing as bad tone, but'...I like the Fender. I have the Fender mini tweed 57 and very much enjoy playing around on it. I have other real and practice amps but the little Tweed mini is just fun. You can also learn a lot from it as it has a very basic amplifier circuit. You can really shape the tone coming from it. You use that in your other amps to shape the tone into what you like. A better understanding of how it works in other words. I used it in my guitar class to demonstrate that.