People who obviously have not seen her animations can only call it 'easy' and 'unrefined lines'. She can draw really well, the movement of the body are just breath-taking! And disney had a group of artists and many other people to really teach them to get the grasp of the movement, they had to be educated constantly! For Joanna Quinn to understand that movement by herself by constant observation and drawing are saying that she got this skill and talent through a LOT of hard work!!!
well I don't know why so many people arguing in which kind of animation is the best or what process is better than other, animation is a form of art and is a expression of your experiences, a medium to show an idea, a way to develop a concept so it is plenty subjective, overall when you are an independent animator, joanna quinn has some unique style, the difficult of the process makes her work amazing, and the concepts behind her animations are some of the most satirical I ever seen!
I love art in all forms of media but for animation I am biased to where I prefer 2d traditional animation to cgi animation because I love seeing how smooth and how drawings can come to life from a sketch to a scene that imitates life. I am still practicing animation, these are great tips!
I actually do nude sketchs and my teacher sometimes comes and tells me that the legs are bigger or the head is small compared with the real model. Good think is that now i know a great tip about the mirror ^^ good to learn from the pros of animation. Thanks alot !
It's lucky when something like that happens, I once got angry at my teacher for locking me in the giant supply cupboard by accident and not coming back for half an hour, at least they had a microwave that worked in there, long story, So I drew an Angry, derogatory, defaming sketch of them and made it ten times more ghoulish, then they saw it mid-way and commented on how good the wrinkles and skin textures were.
Great video! I'll have to try the mirror trick out for myself next time I do art. It was interesting to see her approach to animation. I had not thought about adding an in-between image in the order that she chose. I would have guessed that all the images were drawn sequentially. -cnc
Id like to know. What software do you use to fuse all the scanned images into a program where it brings it all together and and brings the drawn frames into a full animation. Also that adds colour and everything. Well done by the way!
@killingaoi Im not suggesting to use 3D for storyboarding, but that storying boarding is an early development stage of the animation, but it then has to get developed further to make a movie. I was saying that using renders and shaders, they can create an animated movie in 3D that looks like its been drawn in 2D.
I enjoy drawing thousands of drawings and whether a machine can make cgi animation that has the same personal feel as hand drawn( and I say it can't!) is beside the point! There will always be artists that enjoy drawing by hand with animation just as there will always be people who do not draw by hand and therefore will never feel the satisfaction of making their own hand drawn animation. Joanna Quinn has that satisfaction!
I was watching a thin about Frozen from Disney a couple of weeks ago. A Disney animator had the type of drawing table you do. I totally want one. I just got a light box from Amazon. Flat, like, 24 by 18. I also ordered the same type ruler you have as well as animation paper. I look forward to trying it out. I will make a table like yours soon. Problem is space. Hana
Daniella Peñalver Just go away, Daniella (If that's your real name). This has nothing to do with animation. Go to some conspiracy video and copy paste your message there, not on a video about a woman animating. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for this great video, I found it very useful! When working in your own home without tuition it is hard to know how to approach the work... Seeing the process in speedy motion is very encouraging and inspiring.
hey, you seem to know a lot about animation. I'd really like to learn about it. Btw, can you recommend the best software to make traditional 2d animation?
Hey Joe, I love your drawings, they are loose and have real life to them. The line of movement that goes through your animation is really natural looking which is the hardest thing to achieve. Oh and I like your light box. Is it a chromacolour UK? I miss drawing.
@Needless957 Yes, but in Colombia and other countries an animator, mean two things :An animator can be a person that animate the partys or a cheerleader, and can be a graphic animator. But i don't know what's the true way for say the name of the career.
Not really. I use copy paper on a homemade light board. It is really cheap and works great (750 sheets for $5.00 at Target). I would recommend using a darker pencil that you can erase with. For a while, I used a 2B and found it way too light and restrictive. So, I recently switched over to a Prismacolor Ebony and am extremely pleased. You can stack up to 8 pages without missing the general outline of the lines. One day I will try a Blackwing (the pencil of Ken Harris). Hope that helps.
computers are a great tool for animation. it makes the animation process much less labor-intensive ( i do traditional animation), but pure digital animation doesn't have the weight or vitality of a physical drawing. frankly, i think most things created through toonboom and flash looks terrible and lifeless. computers can't replicate the hand-drawn aesthetic.
I know your comment is more than 2 years old, but I was curious whether you mean tweened or frame by frame animation when you say digital animation? It makes a HUGE difference. I think there was a video that used Johnny Test as an example, because apparently it started out as frame by frame animation and switched later. But I have to say I agree in that traditional animation has a really great aesthetic. Maybe that can be replicated by programs like Photoshop, but Flash does look different indeed. I personally do animation as a hobby, but I don't have the amazing patience that traditional animators have, so I use Flash (frame by frame though).
she pretty good, I want to become an Animator just like her someday i mean, I draw pretty good my mom, my friends and family say i should pursue that and i want to. Ive been drawing cartoons as a kid (i also understand that being an animator you must learn life drawing)
Thanx, i tend to animate with pen and tablet the same traditional frame for frame way as this video. I would really like to animate with pen and paper but i dont know how. Thanx for awnsering.
@jorel0221 But can't they use cell shaders/renders to produce a film that looks identical to a 2D hand drawn storyboard?, minus the massive work load... plus all the features that 3D offers?
@jorel0221 Im not saying use 3D for a storyboard, im saying that the final animation can be made in 3D but rendered in such a way that it looks no different than a hand drawn animation. All the inbetween drawings and coloring and timing takes many more people and time. In a 3D setup, once the characters are built they can be reused forever saving time... i was saying you can use modern 3D rendering to create a FINAL movie that looks just like hand drawn images... quicker cheaper better
Good Morning, Do you know where I can find a drawing table like the one you use in the video? I want to do 2d animation and, I do not know where to buy one. What is the name of that table? Thank you very much
@PlebScrubber Ummm, Ok Thank you i guess. I didn't know my animations was "crappy" but atleast ur keepin' it real i guess. But honestly i think i animate on a level way better then south park but we all have opinions. Lol, Which Video Did You Watch? & also, What d0 you mean by the end is like the beginning?, just wondering. But i'm trying 3d animation again cuz i really like 3d animation more, i just need to practice at modeling.
@PapaLongLegs You can get an identical result on the screen with 3D, with way more posibilities on top of it... Your only focusing on the process it took to create rather than the final work. Why use a more difficult, slower method to acheive the same result is my question?
Micah Buzan That's mostly due to the majority of things done in flash are silly internet cartoons made by people who really have no idea what they're doing/just do straight ahead animation/aren't good artists really. If you put in the time you could get a good animation, though flash is terrible for line quality though good for doing rough animation. Toon Boom was used to make Princess and the Frog and that does not have any stiffness whatsoever and looks a lot more traditional as it was done by good artists, a big team over a long period of time.
@PlebScrubber Umm im not hating like everybody else is cuz i love 3d animation, i miss having blender but now i animate in 2d. But the way i animate has 3d elements kinda, the idea of a "puppet". Cut-out animation where i just put(rig) the character together & animate its body parts with pivot points & tweens, kinda similar to animating with bones. its not the same as traditional animation, kind of a medium. What's your opinion on that? lol i'm curious.
I Actually Wanna Do a Hand Drawn Show for Adult Swim and Warner Bros. Animation. It'll Be on TV, All Across America, Someone Will Say "That's Matthew Varnas' Work".
@PlebScrubber I'll like to inform you that before a 3d animation is done, a 2d storyboard is done. That storyboard becomes an animatics which is as good as a 2d animation without the in-betweens and consideration of the roughness of it. I had watched Up of Pixar and I would encourage you to see also the 2d animatics of Up. It's just the same movie but different style.
The aesthetic of traditional work is hands down far more superior to that of 2d rigged animation nowadays. I find that more and more mathematicians are animating rather than actual artists. It's very disappointing to see that there's barely any more ART in cARToons today.
Alex Young digital animation is better in almost all senses to traditional. The key difference is all the older professional animators grew up with drawn, and so the standards for drawn animation are much higher, making it feel better in comparison
how is called the career of animation? or, how the people say your career? if you studied a cook career, you are a chef. if i want to study animation and be like you, what i will be?
Yeah, it's a pretty graphic picture, but please take into account that she's doing it to show how everything moves together. By drawing the floppyness of the breasts and the fat, it shows the significant changes in what happens when she moves. Also, we're artists. We have those days where things just get weird xD
@PapaLongLegs Interesting... But I think the goal of animating is to create a particular video as a creative outlet or expression of the animator/director. Its about the end product and how it makes people feel when they watch it. Its not so much what the animator feels about the process, but the audience is the... target audience?
@PapaLongLegs I say you can create a 3D film IDENTICAL to the 2D animation, including the FEEL of pride from the animator, the end product would vary in no way at all. They could tell you an old school animated made it and you would love it, even tho it had been rendered out by a machine with no soul.
@dstacey102 it's 25 drawings per second, if it wasn't at least that much long, you wouldn't even able to see anything, as it will all happen in a blink of an eye...
@Simstyle12 I wouldnt say your animation has any 3d elements, and just because its 2d dosnt mean its crap... of course your animation does look like crap... but then again southpark was very successfull with crappy animation, by having good humour and story. I think your animation is very good at telling a story, even with the crappy graphics. Also good camera movement and angles, scences flow together well. I like how at the end its kinda like the begining going backwards... full circle
People who obviously have not seen her animations can only call it 'easy' and 'unrefined lines'. She can draw really well, the movement of the body are just breath-taking! And disney had a group of artists and many other people to really teach them to get the grasp of the movement, they had to be educated constantly! For Joanna Quinn to understand that movement by herself by constant observation and drawing are saying that she got this skill and talent through a LOT of hard work!!!
well I don't know why so many people arguing in which kind of animation is the best or what process is better than other, animation is a form of art and is a expression of your experiences, a medium to show an idea, a way to develop a concept so it is plenty subjective, overall when you are an independent animator, joanna quinn has some unique style, the difficult of the process makes her work amazing, and the concepts behind her animations are some of the most satirical I ever seen!
She has officially made me happy... She uses herself as a model for animation just like I do...
MAN she's a real classic artist. holds her pencil correctly and everything haha. see those rarely:]
I discovered Joanna Quinn thanks to her "Affairs of the Art" and I'm absolutely amazed by her drawings, animations and talent!
I just saw her animation recently and I love it. She is so real to life. I will have to find more of her work.
Animators are such incredibly skilled and highly creative people.
That mirror technique is what we do in photoshop - flip your drawing to see mistakes you might have missed before ;)
What Is the name of that tool in Photoshop?
@@batzeth There is no tool in photoshop that does that - you have to create it as an action.
@@batzeth flip horizontal
Really interesting, the mirror thing at the end is brilliant. Love her art, she has such a grasp of the human form.
I love how when the pegs come off, she just simply tapes it back on
Simple but effective!
I'm a fan of Joanna Quinn's fantastic work!
She is such a cute person.
Fantastic artist Great talent well done
I love art in all forms of media but for animation I am biased to where I prefer 2d traditional animation to cgi animation because I love seeing how smooth and how drawings can come to life from a sketch to a scene that imitates life. I am still practicing animation, these are great tips!
Touché. Same here.
I second that thought.
I actually do nude sketchs and my teacher sometimes comes and tells me that the legs are bigger or the head is small compared with the real model. Good think is that now i know a great tip about the mirror ^^ good to learn from the pros of animation. Thanks alot !
That's why I love digital drawing, You just flip it and continue the work, then flip it again as many times as you want.
Vladislav Kostin i agree with u
It's lucky when something like that happens, I once got angry at my teacher for locking me in the giant supply cupboard by accident and not coming back for half an hour, at least they had a microwave that worked in there, long story, So I drew an Angry, derogatory, defaming sketch of them and made it ten times more ghoulish, then they saw it mid-way and commented on how good the wrinkles and skin textures were.
I took so much onboard in those few minutes, Joanna is brilliant for this..... thank you
Fantastic work! Lovely new film you're doing. I look forward to seeing the finished film!
That mirror tip sounds good
one of the great masters of animation, incredible demo❤❤❤
I've just seeing the finished animation. Marvellous!!!
Es ALUCINANTE y MARAVILLOSO su trabajo !!!!!!!
in love with her style
The challenge part is keeping the character and the lines the same,and then putting them all in computer it drives the computer insane.
what a fun setup and view!
Great video! I'll have to try the mirror trick out for myself next time I do art. It was interesting to see her approach to animation. I had not thought about adding an in-between image in the order that she chose. I would have guessed that all the images were drawn sequentially. -cnc
What a joy to watch this !!!!!
giggles I love her sound effects
I love Joanna Quinn's work. It reminds me of Plympton but softer and more comical.
love this woman !!!!!!!!!!!!
Id like to know. What software do you use to fuse all the scanned images into a program where it brings it all together and and brings the drawn frames into a full animation. Also that adds colour and everything. Well done by the way!
@killingaoi Im not suggesting to use 3D for storyboarding, but that storying boarding is an early development stage of the animation, but it then has to get developed further to make a movie.
I was saying that using renders and shaders, they can create an animated movie in 3D that looks like its been drawn in 2D.
amazing. sooo natural and talented. wicked film xx
I enjoy drawing thousands of drawings and whether a machine can make cgi animation that has the same personal feel as hand drawn( and I say it can't!) is beside the point! There will always be artists that enjoy drawing by hand with animation just as there will always be people who do not draw by hand and therefore will never feel the satisfaction of making their own hand drawn animation. Joanna Quinn has that satisfaction!
I was watching a thin about Frozen from Disney a couple of weeks ago. A Disney animator had the type of drawing table you do. I totally want one. I just got a light box from Amazon. Flat, like, 24 by 18. I also ordered the same type ruler you have as well as animation paper. I look forward to trying it out. I will make a table like yours soon. Problem is space. Hana
Daniella Peñalver Just go away, Daniella (If that's your real name). This has nothing to do with animation. Go to some conspiracy video and copy paste your message there, not on a video about a woman animating. Thanks in advance.
@Daniella Peñalver fuck off
Thanks for this great video, I found it very useful! When working in your own home without tuition it is hard to know how to approach the work... Seeing the process in speedy motion is very encouraging and inspiring.
hey, you seem to know a lot about animation. I'd really like to learn about it. Btw, can you recommend the best software to make traditional 2d animation?
The mirror is so genius lmao LOVE IT😂
I'm trying to be like you ….amazing stuff!!!!!!!!
The drawings look better than I remember.
Hey Joe, I love your drawings, they are loose and have real life to them. The line of movement that goes through your animation is really natural looking which is the hardest thing to achieve. Oh and I like your light box. Is it a chromacolour UK? I miss drawing.
@Needless957 Yes, but in Colombia and other countries an animator, mean two things :An animator can be a person that animate the partys or a cheerleader, and can be a graphic animator. But i don't know what's the true way for say the name of the career.
que genia, es una de mis ídolas.
Not really. I use copy paper on a homemade light board. It is really cheap and works great (750 sheets for $5.00 at Target). I would recommend using a darker pencil that you can erase with. For a while, I used a 2B and found it way too light and restrictive. So, I recently switched over to a Prismacolor Ebony and am extremely pleased. You can stack up to 8 pages without missing the general outline of the lines. One day I will try a Blackwing (the pencil of Ken Harris). Hope that helps.
How did you go about making the light board??
computers are a great tool for animation. it makes the animation process much less labor-intensive ( i do traditional animation), but pure digital animation doesn't have the weight or vitality of a physical drawing. frankly, i think most things created through toonboom and flash looks terrible and lifeless. computers can't replicate the hand-drawn aesthetic.
I know your comment is more than 2 years old, but I was curious whether you mean tweened or frame by frame animation when you say digital animation? It makes a HUGE difference. I think there was a video that used Johnny Test as an example, because apparently it started out as frame by frame animation and switched later. But I have to say I agree in that traditional animation has a really great aesthetic. Maybe that can be replicated by programs like Photoshop, but Flash does look different indeed. I personally do animation as a hobby, but I don't have the amazing patience that traditional animators have, so I use Flash (frame by frame though).
Micah Buzan have you ever tried pro-create on the iPad Pro? Feels pretty close
Literally people are speaking about computer animation on traditional animation video ustad of taking about techniques in traditional aimaation 😑
bruh
What electric sharpener you use?
she pretty good, I want to become an Animator just like her someday i mean, I draw pretty good
my mom, my friends and family say i should pursue that and i want to. Ive been drawing cartoons as a kid (i also understand that being an animator you must learn life drawing)
Did you pursue the dream? I hope you aré doing greatneses
The portrait of the old woman at the back on 0:18... Wow!
Lovely work. Lovely her, too
Thanx, i tend to animate with pen and tablet the same traditional frame for frame way as this video. I would really like to animate with pen and paper but i dont know how.
Thanx for awnsering.
@jorel0221 But can't they use cell shaders/renders to produce a film that looks identical to a 2D hand drawn storyboard?, minus the massive work load... plus all the features that 3D offers?
Love your work and film. Also love your drawing easel. Is it made for you? Or can I purchase it?
She is a freaking genius.
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing x
Cara essa mulher é incrível!
@jorel0221 Im not saying use 3D for a storyboard, im saying that the final animation can be made in 3D but rendered in such a way that it looks no different than a hand drawn animation. All the inbetween drawings and coloring and timing takes many more people and time. In a 3D setup, once the characters are built they can be reused forever saving time... i was saying you can use modern 3D rendering to create a FINAL movie that looks just like hand drawn images... quicker cheaper better
Good Morning,
Do you know where I can find a drawing table like the one you use in the video? I want to do 2d animation and, I do not know where to buy one. What is the name of that table?
Thank you very much
Very interesting, thank you
Joanna Quinn is certainly one of the best animator, maybe even better than Glen Keane. Her art is perfect !
@PlebScrubber Ummm, Ok Thank you i guess. I didn't know my animations was "crappy" but atleast ur keepin' it real i guess. But honestly i think i animate on a level way better then south park but we all have opinions. Lol, Which Video Did You Watch? & also, What d0 you mean by the end is like the beginning?, just wondering. But i'm trying 3d animation again cuz i really like 3d animation more, i just need to practice at modeling.
@PapaLongLegs You can get an identical result on the screen with 3D, with way more posibilities on top of it...
Your only focusing on the process it took to create rather than the final work.
Why use a more difficult, slower method to acheive the same result is my question?
where can i get a um light board table thing??
Rotoscoping involves tracing live action plates. This is straight-ahead hand drawn animation.
I do the trick with the mirror too or use the camera on my phone!
do you need certain paper to make a pencil animation? O.o
amazing. thank you
We were always taught to flip the drawing upside down and look at it. Does the same thing as the mirror.
@Sambucca It's not messy. It's a wilderness of free-association.
Great animation tips
Micah Buzan That's mostly due to the majority of things done in flash are silly internet cartoons made by people who really have no idea what they're doing/just do straight ahead animation/aren't good artists really. If you put in the time you could get a good animation, though flash is terrible for line quality though good for doing rough animation. Toon Boom was used to make Princess and the Frog and that does not have any stiffness whatsoever and looks a lot more traditional as it was done by good artists, a big team over a long period of time.
any advice for inking programs other than flash? I find toonboom better but not incredible, vector is the way to go though.
Manga Studio is meant to be very good for inking. You can do it in anything really though, photoshop etc. but yeah Manga Studio is meant to be good.
For animation : TVPaint . (Joanna Quinn is working in TVPaint now).
does anyone know what kind of paper she is using?
I recommend PaP (plastic paper animation) its free to download
mam, u just awesome ,, u inspired me so great ,,, thq so much
@genericity she's mad cool like an ice cube
@PlebScrubber Umm im not hating like everybody else is cuz i love 3d animation, i miss having blender but now i animate in 2d. But the way i animate has 3d elements kinda, the idea of a "puppet". Cut-out animation where i just put(rig) the character together & animate its body parts with pivot points & tweens, kinda similar to animating with bones. its not the same as traditional animation, kind of a medium. What's your opinion on that? lol i'm curious.
great stuff
@PapaLongLegs please elaborate...
Hand-drawn animation is easier for me, personally.
@Daniela me too! Computers are a pain in the bollocks
I Actually Wanna Do a Hand Drawn Show for Adult Swim and Warner Bros. Animation. It'll Be on TV, All Across America, Someone Will Say "That's Matthew Varnas' Work".
Agree
In the end it is what you want to tell that matters and the choices you make coming from that.
someone help me with the process
@Needless957 that's right, thank u very much :)
@PlebScrubber I'll like to inform you that before a 3d animation is done, a 2d storyboard is done. That storyboard becomes an animatics which is as good as a 2d animation without the in-betweens and consideration of the roughness of it. I had watched Up of Pixar and I would encourage you to see also the 2d animatics of Up. It's just the same movie but different style.
Gold.
The aesthetic of traditional work is hands down far more superior to that of 2d rigged animation nowadays. I find that more and more mathematicians are animating rather than actual artists. It's very disappointing to see that there's barely any more ART in cARToons today.
that not entirely true
It's not true. The process is the same
Alex Young digital animation is better in almost all senses to traditional. The key difference is all the older professional animators grew up with drawn, and so the standards for drawn animation are much higher, making it feel better in comparison
what is this animation technique called??
how is called the career of animation? or, how the people say your career? if you studied a cook career, you are a chef. if i want to study animation and be like you, what i will be?
I know what she means by using the mirror, an image can look so different flipped around like that.
2:22 im learning with the AA just now.
what an endearing person
Can someone uploaded The Famous Fred one for me please?
Yeah, it's a pretty graphic picture, but please take into account that she's doing it to show how everything moves together. By drawing the floppyness of the breasts and the fat, it shows the significant changes in what happens when she moves. Also, we're artists. We have those days where things just get weird xD
@PapaLongLegs Interesting... But I think the goal of animating is to create a particular video as a creative outlet or expression of the animator/director. Its about the end product and how it makes people feel when they watch it. Its not so much what the animator feels about the process, but the audience is the... target audience?
Can someone upload The Famous Fred one for me please
Why dont you use the computer and a pencil? with programs like adobe flash ur mutch faster
is there a reason?
@PapaLongLegs I say you can create a 3D film IDENTICAL to the 2D animation, including the FEEL of pride from the animator, the end product would vary in no way at all. They could tell you an old school animated made it and you would love it, even tho it had been rendered out by a machine with no soul.
I would like as talented as she
i wanna be a animator too realy bad what could i do bcz in the uk is very ard 2 be anime artist? why
❤
Thank you Joanna :)
@dstacey102 it's 25 drawings per second, if it wasn't at least that much long, you wouldn't even able to see anything, as it will all happen in a blink of an eye...
@Simstyle12 I wouldnt say your animation has any 3d elements, and just because its 2d dosnt mean its crap... of course your animation does look like crap... but then again southpark was very successfull with crappy animation, by having good humour and story.
I think your animation is very good at telling a story, even with the crappy graphics. Also good camera movement and angles, scences flow together well.
I like how at the end its kinda like the begining going backwards... full circle