I Went off PEDs for 9 MONTHS (And THIS is What Happened)

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  • @AlexanderBromley
    @AlexanderBromley  2 роки тому +9

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    • @randomdude71kwnd
      @randomdude71kwnd Рік тому

      Hey, did you make this comment yourself? I know it's yours but it looks way too much like those fake accounts you see so much nowadays. Just thought I'd say it maybe it helps

    • @repentandfollowjesuschrist6170
      @repentandfollowjesuschrist6170 Рік тому

      PEDs are for losers, way to ruin your health

  • @Lis-ce2gx
    @Lis-ce2gx 2 роки тому +566

    Alex is such a chad. No bs, straight to the point. Just 71k subs for such a goldmine is criminal.

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  2 роки тому +48

      Too kind.

    • @rh.m6660
      @rh.m6660 2 роки тому +29

      I don't agree. He's not mainstream and therefore has a low amount of subs. If anything it shows he's not selling out with bullshit generic content. A channel for the true fan of strength sports.

    • @hej9110
      @hej9110 2 роки тому +8

      If I remember correctly one year ago he had 10k? So I'm glad his channel is becoming more and more popular

    • @ED6499.
      @ED6499. 2 роки тому

      Stay natty bro

    • @Oldlady74
      @Oldlady74 2 роки тому +1

      71K Plus 1 from this guy

  • @guillotinedeath
    @guillotinedeath 2 роки тому +703

    Am I the only person that believes once you use PEDS you shouldn’t call yourself a natty even if you quit PEDS?

    • @utgardkraft1412
      @utgardkraft1412 2 роки тому +129

      Im taking a seat right here next to ya. Agree

    • @m-a-t-t6869
      @m-a-t-t6869 2 роки тому +66

      Agreed

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  2 роки тому +158

      Interested in your perspective. Why is that? (Btw, I have zero desire to wave the 'natural' flag or compete in tested divsions)

    • @DCJayhawk57
      @DCJayhawk57 2 роки тому +155

      @@AlexanderBromley
      I think he may be referencing the possibility that the myonuclei gained from PED use don't go away, so you may be more responsive to training or may maintain a higher LBM than you would naturally despite coming off gear. Now, I've never read or heard anything about how much this actually impacts gym progress realistically, and I'm not sure this is something that could even be studied reliably given how much variation there is from person to person.

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  2 роки тому +90

      @@DCJayhawk57 I was unaware of that. My gut tells me that the havoc that gets wreaked on your endocrine system and pscyhology more than outweighs that but that's just a guess; would be an interesting study to see if anyone could find a meanginful way to do it. Not that I have any way of substantiating it, but i legitimately believe I would be stronger right now if I never went on; less injuries, less swings in performance, less comebacks. But who knows, maybe I have a big upswing coming.

  • @FreeBeerMonkey
    @FreeBeerMonkey 2 роки тому +130

    This kind of honesty is truly rare. The world would be million times better if more people would act like this.

    • @jdennis867
      @jdennis867 2 роки тому

      Larry wheels and noel were the first ppl on the social media platform that were honest with their use of ped and now suddenly everybody decides to come clean.

    • @goatbearman514
      @goatbearman514 2 роки тому +3

      @@jdennis867 Pete Rubish was the first one. He started talking openly about peds already in 2014

    • @jdennis867
      @jdennis867 2 роки тому

      @@goatbearman514 yea idk who tf that is and I'm pretty sure most ppl don't either.

    • @goatbearman514
      @goatbearman514 2 роки тому +4

      @@jdennis867 Most people definitely know who Pete Rubish is lol. You gotta be kidding

  • @matt1755
    @matt1755 2 роки тому +267

    This is really nice to hear. I am so over hearing UA-camrs that I have listened to for years say so often “work hard, eat right, rest” and leaving out the cold fact that their PED use is fundamental to their consistent muscle and strength gains. I’m not talking about the ones who lie about it, they are not worth listening too. I’m not even talking about the cool ones who are honest if vague about it. I’m talking about the dudes who just fail to mention that PEDs make it so that they are playing a very different game that those of us who don’t use.

    • @teedee1167
      @teedee1167 2 роки тому +5

      So true man. Ppl have to be more honest with their viewers

    • @johntrains1317
      @johntrains1317 2 роки тому

      Saaame

    • @SouthpawJoe
      @SouthpawJoe 2 роки тому +5

      ​@@teedee1167 I'd argue people just need to be more honest in general xD

    • @PhiyackYuh
      @PhiyackYuh 2 роки тому +3

      Where have you seen any of these athletes being natural doing strength events? They are always on peds. I always knew this guys was on peds. You seen any jacked person as they get older when you start to lose muscle due to ageing. Come on now

    • @pretty_flaco
      @pretty_flaco 2 роки тому +2

      @@SouthpawJoe i’ll counter-argue that they’re not obligated to say if they previously used or currently on PEDs. It’s different if the outright lie and proclaim they’re lifetime natty when in fact they’ve been through cycles

  • @ossilong
    @ossilong 2 роки тому +56

    This is probably one of the most honest (fitness) videos that will ever be on youtube. hats off

  • @GVS
    @GVS 2 роки тому +59

    Thanks for sharing your journey! I've found Pete Rubish's "after sauce" content to be quite interesting as well.

  • @nickcustodi592
    @nickcustodi592 2 роки тому +34

    Alex, there’s so much value in this video. Thank you for the true transparency. The good the bad and the ugly. It shows a tremendous amount of acceptance and maturity on your end to be so transparent. It’s worth the praise.

  • @BaldOmniMan
    @BaldOmniMan 2 роки тому +29

    Extremely interesting analysis

  • @schraderade
    @schraderade 2 роки тому +90

    I'm 31 and I've never been on gear before. I train and diet consistently but I was having issues. Back in November I got tested and my total testosterone was at 186 ng/dl and my free was at 11.1 pg/mL. I was put on 25mg of Clomid daily starting in January. When I got tested again at the end of April my total test was 893.
    I feel way better and it resolved the issues I was having. Its been a life saver. I had a semen analysis done in April as well and everything came back great. I wish I had one before January so I could have compared results. I'm reasonably certain that my count would have been low prior to Clomid.
    It made a huge difference for me, my training, and hopefully we can get pregnant soon!

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  2 роки тому +18

      Glad to hear that! Good luck

    • @abner2193
      @abner2193 2 роки тому

      Are you just on clomid or other medication? It does have some side effects like eye issues which you should look out for.

    • @Total.650
      @Total.650 2 роки тому

      what was the cause of that?

    • @DaBrute
      @DaBrute 2 роки тому +6

      Any idea what caused your levels to tank? Mine dropped over 30% in the past couple years but the dr doesn't seem concerned since it's still "normal" at 460 ng. But I can see and feel the difference in my body

    • @schraderade
      @schraderade 2 роки тому +4

      @@DaBrute I'm not sure, I had never had them checked before so I have nothing to compare it to. I'd been consistently training and dieting for 3 years which should have brought my levels up. I never thought I'd have low T. I found out my uncle also has low T so maybe is hereditary?

  • @Aar69
    @Aar69 2 роки тому +261

    I vote going natty. Having a kid, I think re-approaching your health and fitness in a more well rounded standpoint for overall long-term sustainability and health will have the most positive impact on your presence in your child's life. Cardiovascular health, calisthenics, flexibility, in addition to the weights at the gym will ensure you are able to play and keep up with your child throughout their life in ways that other parents cannot, in addition to improving your long-term quality of life.

    • @sleepyjo9340
      @sleepyjo9340 2 роки тому +11

      I'm 6'3, big framed and natty. While I've been training on and off for years, I can now red 100s for multiple reps. I can also do an hour of cardio no issues. Font think I'll ever hop on.

    • @sec9788
      @sec9788 2 роки тому +4

      @@sleepyjo9340 Good on you. It means more. Seriously. Anyone can cheat to look impressive but it’s the day in day out “shnooks” (to quote Ray Liotta-at the end of Goodfellas 😁) that grind and put in the work for even the smallest gains and DON’T take the easy road that are the most impressive.

    • @tomomasta3254
      @tomomasta3254 2 роки тому +6

      Sounds boring

    • @Pepe-pq3om
      @Pepe-pq3om 2 роки тому +2

      @@tomomasta3254 It does

    • @MrGoranPa
      @MrGoranPa 2 роки тому +5

      Or selling soul to the devil who will come for check when least wanted. For couple of pounds on the bar...

  • @dasparado
    @dasparado 2 роки тому +23

    Cool story. I was tempted to use so many times back in High School and in my 20s. I was lucky and had a pretty good natural build and could lift fairly well. What got annoying was watching my friends who naturally I was far stronger than matching me and then surpassing me due to steroids. Still before this I did a large research project that was all about the dangers of steroids and I had interviewed many users that warned me it was not worth it. I am 47 now, I think I look a bit better than I did in my 20s and still have never used Peds. I will never be as strong as you are Alex, but I am ok with that. Hope all is well with you and your family.

  • @HellBoy-id6ss
    @HellBoy-id6ss 2 роки тому +25

    This is without a doubt the best video on this topic.. Sir you've always delivered the most articulate and well thought out videos on training and fitness..Please keep it going..

  • @urbanarmory
    @urbanarmory 2 роки тому +11

    congrats man, I only started training again after my college years because I had my daughter and realized I wanted to be the best I can be, and I know that training brought that out of me. Having a kid will make you ID what's important and why, and I'm pretty sure that you'll figure out what your ideal training and PED use kind of stuff will be. for me I know it's just not worth it, but I'm not a competitor, and it's far from such a simple choice there.
    I can tell you though that something actually meaningful ironically AlphaDestiny (yes really) said about bodybuilder deaths actually is that John Meadows, for example, was loved and respected not for his maintenance of his physique but because of who he was and the knowledge and care he brought to everyone. Basically, you don't have to be who you *were* to be valuable and important as you *are*. It's ok to change- frankly, it's the most important thing, and it's ok to recognize what really matters, and what doesn't. Whatever happens you'll kill it, for sure, and best of luck

  • @aphysique
    @aphysique 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for making yourself vulnerable, open & honest! Stand up dude in my book!

  • @stevenkingsley7781
    @stevenkingsley7781 2 роки тому +27

    Good luck with the family attempts Bromley, they can definitely shift your perspective on what’s important

    • @chrisvig123
      @chrisvig123 2 роки тому +3

      When you realize you want to live past 40 for your kids and don’t like walking around huge and feeling sick all the time 😯

    • @stevenkingsley7781
      @stevenkingsley7781 2 роки тому +1

      @@chrisvig123 my big goal was to be able to tie my shoes and breathe at the same time! Fed up of having to choose one or the other!!

  • @fightinggod3168
    @fightinggod3168 2 роки тому +15

    Friendly word of advice. Keep off, at least until your first kid is born. IVF tends to fall far more often than not, and a lot of those pregnancies end up as late miscarriages. This has just been my experience, as well as the experience of many people in our support group.

  • @Tjwheat903
    @Tjwheat903 2 роки тому +3

    Recent subscriber, love your channel already. I think the most valuable thing we can learn from lifters like you is your mentality. It speaks volumes that you can go through the highs and lows of life and mentally stay in the pocket regardless of the struggles you face. I struggled with obesity in the past and yoyo-dieting and I remember the mental toll it took when I tore something in the gym and binged back a bunch of weight I had struggled to lose in depression.
    It's really motivating and inspirational to see you set your goals and simply handle the problems that come up with stoicism and a can-do mentality. When we see champions online it's easy for people like me to say "Oh, this guy is just a specimen and I suck, I'll never achieve anything close to that so why bother?". Videos like this demonstrate real strength and holds people that aren't accomplishing what they want responsible to do better, because it humanizes people who achieve a lot in life. Regardless of what you go for I think your success in your endeavors is inevitable with your approach to life.

  • @breedingpitmetal
    @breedingpitmetal Рік тому

    it is SO refreshing to finally here someone speak about this openly. thank you so much

  • @dabigdrummer
    @dabigdrummer 2 роки тому +1

    Dude I found your channel recently and absolutely love it. You’re honest, accomplished, educated, and communicate very well.
    I can’t do any form of gear because of my job and love seeing this honest analysis of your experiences both on and off gear and your lab numbers. Subscribed.

  • @w00tse
    @w00tse 2 роки тому

    One of the most straight-forward, no bs personal opinions on the topic I've seen. Thanks for sharing!

  • @become_alex
    @become_alex 2 роки тому +19

    I think you need to look at this also from the perspective of a father, which you already plan to be. Your longevity and health should be a part of the equation for what you do in the future regarding gear.

  • @riley_shenk
    @riley_shenk 2 роки тому +4

    This is awesome information that I don't see being talked about. Thank you for putting this out there

  • @Darknight526
    @Darknight526 Рік тому +1

    PHENOMENAL VIDEO Alex. I really appreciate this video and I'm sure others do as well! Thanks!

  • @Roflstab
    @Roflstab 2 роки тому +1

    I genuinely appreciate the brutal honesty when it came to the aggression/assertiveness. Not many guys would talk about it like that

  • @DavidMccallister65
    @DavidMccallister65 Рік тому

    "The Program" clip though😂😂😂
    I freaking loved that shit when I was a kid!
    "What were you doing, leading me on!!!????"
    (Roid Rage) 😅

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate 2 роки тому +6

    Accretion disk of carbs and cakes... I'm dying over here :)

  • @bobbytheblade2550
    @bobbytheblade2550 2 роки тому +4

    I respect your honesty and wish you all the best in your journey. Maybe others can learn from your mistakes.

    • @marc2638
      @marc2638 2 роки тому

      What mistakes?? Let's call them choices and decisions. A mistake is getting a girl pregnant you didn't mean to get pregnant that's that's mistake, hitting a brick wall full tilt is a mistake, running from the cops is a mistake, marrying 4 times is a mistake shit getting married once is a mistake taking gear is a choice. I hate how people say taking gear is a mistake,,,,, it's not a mistake it's I suppose like everything else in life a choice.

  • @BeginnerMoto
    @BeginnerMoto 2 роки тому +1

    Glad to see your doing well Alex. I met you at your gym back in 2018. Love your content and I wish you the best. The gym you built is still going strong!

  • @nevencuk
    @nevencuk Рік тому

    Great video. Nice to hear your tought process about everything and being open about everything. Thank you. This can help people a lot.

  • @BradYaeger
    @BradYaeger 2 роки тому +10

    Once I hit my late 40's, I'm 57 now, I was tempted to start doing TRT etc but after research I just didn't want to get caught up in something I'd have to keep taking the rest of my life . I know enough about replacing something the body makes , and just finding ways to stimulate the body to make it on it's own. I think Western medicine is too quick to take the first route. Now I don't compete so just talking staying in shape and feeling good. And I'm doing great in both categories without any PED's. I have changed a lot of my diet and added things to my workouts that are advised to raise T levels and seem to. My energy is great, all the "plumbing" works same as always and I can put on muscle easy so life is good for me.

    • @ChazZen
      @ChazZen Рік тому +1

      the drop off in T after 40 is very slow and minimal and probably due to lifestyle more than age its self

  • @amuginho7535
    @amuginho7535 2 роки тому +4

    A very brave, informative video Alex. As someone who recently discovered your channel, I am truly glad to have found this great source of information. Keep up the good work and wish you and your family all the best!

  • @kbrizy7490
    @kbrizy7490 2 роки тому +4

    Fucking great video man. Really appreciate you putting this out there. I’m definitely someone on the naïve end of the spectrum around this stuff, but this was quite revelatory.
    My own journey is natty, but this is a decent confidence boost. It eliminates some of my disappointment in my lack of progress 💪🏽.
    Lastly, it should be mentioned, you’re very well spoken and a great communicator. This deserves high praise 💪🏽.

  • @DerDanielDunz
    @DerDanielDunz 2 роки тому +1

    strong content. I'm more of an endurance athlete, training for a marathon und trying to keep some strength and this is the only strength/weightlifting related channel i regularly consume. Wish you all the best

  • @punishr36
    @punishr36 2 роки тому +4

    Finally someone with the balls to be honest about the use. Years ago I used roids for a bit being deca and ganabol not at the same time and ended up hurting my shoulder even more than I actually had. Great video and cheers from Canada.

  • @AustinNagy
    @AustinNagy 2 роки тому

    Another great take. Not glamorizing it, but not pretending like it doesn’t have its advantages. Thanks for the perspective

  • @MelloHubb
    @MelloHubb 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this video! Your honesty just got you a new subscriber and I'm hoping that it will get you a lot more 🙏🏽

  • @grinnyyyyyyyyyyy
    @grinnyyyyyyyyyyy 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the honesty, good luck with your numbers

  • @Berubese
    @Berubese 2 роки тому +3

    Appreciate your honesty, and love the content. It feels like I am PR'ing every week on Bull Mastiff.
    The topic also hits close to home. I've considered PEDs, but with the idea of starting a family soon, I've held off.

    • @CalvinCandieMO
      @CalvinCandieMO 2 роки тому

      Cry more. Stay natty and insecure and continue have guys like me make you look tiny.

  • @robertbatista7164
    @robertbatista7164 2 роки тому +8

    Those in the know recognize this channel as gold. Dave Tate has name dropped him a few times in conversation. His base strength book should be required reading.

  • @ryanlander5026
    @ryanlander5026 7 місяців тому

    What a great, honest analysis.

  • @jesterbb8996
    @jesterbb8996 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks for the info and great honesty.

  • @universoulstrength7343
    @universoulstrength7343 2 роки тому

    Buddy thank you as allways for your sharing and the honisty that is what this industry needs! Fitness, Bodybuilding, Strong Man, All of it!

  • @snakeriverscotto
    @snakeriverscotto 2 роки тому

    The BEST self-description of all time there Bromley. Lord I lol’d on that one 😂

  • @jegr3398
    @jegr3398 2 роки тому +1

    I appreciate your story, hope everything works out awesomely for you, subscribed.

  • @NOne-yt1tj
    @NOne-yt1tj 2 роки тому +2

    Appreciate you sharing your personal experience, genuinely

  • @joshfountaine6634
    @joshfountaine6634 2 роки тому

    Appreciate your candor on a variety of topics that aren't easy to talk about. Love your content and what you're doing for the community!

  • @houstin7866
    @houstin7866 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the honesty. It’s refreshing to hear some actual information about PEDs

  • @rvnb1027
    @rvnb1027 2 роки тому

    This is the first post I have seen from you and it is good stuff. Thanks for putting your story out there and being so open. I really think with how influential these platforms are this kind of honesty needs to happen. I don't care who uses but they shouldn't pretend like they don't.

  • @glasserallen
    @glasserallen 2 роки тому +1

    Great video I absolutely respect your candor and your utmost honesty no lies no BS no dodging what you took props for being upfront and honest 💯👍👍💪

  • @patrickbuckley344
    @patrickbuckley344 Рік тому

    I always enjoy your channnel- very informative and professional! I respect your candor about your PED use!

  • @mostachiocam1598
    @mostachiocam1598 Рік тому

    I’ve never heard this honest of a conversation.

  • @GaryMillerFitness
    @GaryMillerFitness 2 роки тому

    Great share bud. This was as honest as I have ever seen.

  • @Guitareben
    @Guitareben 2 роки тому

    Dude this is awesome! Really cool to see how you’re getting on!

  • @porqpine53
    @porqpine53 2 роки тому +1

    I appreciate your candor Bromley. Glad you can use your platform to do some useful self-reflection

  • @gmoeteeman7660
    @gmoeteeman7660 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the honesty! Hope the IVF turns out well and the channel grows -- you deserve it. Refreshing to hear about your journey. I stumbled onto your vids by accident but continue to return since the integrity is apparent. All the best.

  • @darrencrainey5391
    @darrencrainey5391 2 роки тому +1

    Hey man did you go through a phase of low libido after coming off? How long before it passed?hope you can reply thanks

  • @julioandresarriagarangel7183
    @julioandresarriagarangel7183 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the honest talk, Alex. Censoring topics is venom for advancing knowledge and wisdom.

  • @austinnewhart2959
    @austinnewhart2959 2 роки тому

    Fantastic video. Thanks for the openness and honesty.

  • @ExtremeWassabi
    @ExtremeWassabi Рік тому

    So cool to hear ppl talk about it.

  • @strengthadventure2694
    @strengthadventure2694 2 роки тому +10

    I have considered peds many times, made research many times and there is only reason that I would not touch that: I would not now if the progress is me, my mind and body or just the chemistry. Going off and seeing your body to worst state that it was 4 years ago must be devastating. After that you have to be on because the gains and your personality was in fact the PEDs not you. Those are my thoughts. Good vid Alexander.

  • @joelshasteen
    @joelshasteen Рік тому

    excellent video. I appreciate how honest and open you are. Very informative. It would have been great to hear about your compounds and dosages but I understand why you may not have included those details.

  • @lphinizy9058
    @lphinizy9058 2 роки тому

    Very inspiring! Thanks for the video! I’m now subscribed!

  • @StevenStreamhouses
    @StevenStreamhouses 2 роки тому

    Super honest conversation, im new and I subsribed!

  • @johnnykame
    @johnnykame 2 роки тому

    Much respect Alex!
    Can’t wait to watch this new journey!
    Much love and best of luck sir!

  • @elm3adawyzz273
    @elm3adawyzz273 2 роки тому +1

    Hey man I just want to say as a student who cannot afford to buy a programme your videos mean the world to me. Thank you❤️

  • @willjw93
    @willjw93 Рік тому

    this is a banging video to have done. well done.

  • @johnelwood5049
    @johnelwood5049 2 роки тому

    Totally impressed with your openness. Thank you!

  • @williamhall3933
    @williamhall3933 Рік тому

    This is fascinating. Excellent video

  • @donaldlerolland4449
    @donaldlerolland4449 Рік тому

    Appreciate the honesty!

  • @DanH282
    @DanH282 2 роки тому +1

    This was incredibly articulate and honest punctuated with some hilarious casually dropped in lines. My favourites being "when you're under 6ft tall, ginger and built like a thumb, women tend not to throw themselves at you". And of course comparing his belly button to a black hole with an accretion disc made of carbs! Haha! Nice video man.

  • @perrottarober
    @perrottarober Рік тому

    Did you ever get some follow up bloods to see where you're at? Appreciate the honesty bro! Good vid.

  • @matttarasek9006
    @matttarasek9006 2 роки тому +8

    Won’t your myonuclei count remain super elevated (possibly forever) even though your off the PEDs?. Any thoughts on how that may affect your new “natty” long term potential?

    • @anthonyplaysbass
      @anthonyplaysbass 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah so I've read.

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  2 роки тому +13

      In all honesty, I hope so! I wish I could have retained some benefit from all these years of training and competing.
      Anyways, I was throwing around the term 'natty' toungue in cheek. I have absolutely no desire to claim that status or compete in tested federations. I don't do powerlifting and strongman isn't tested anyways (99% of top competitors are on something)

  • @marcussmithwick6326
    @marcussmithwick6326 2 роки тому +1

    Content never disappoints

  • @X0rDuS
    @X0rDuS 2 роки тому +2

    thanks for this honest insight !

  • @ethantrainingyt
    @ethantrainingyt 2 роки тому

    This is an extremely valuable video on this topic!

  • @dadbod488
    @dadbod488 2 роки тому +4

    Glad to hear all seems to be on the up and up for you, and good luck with the family planning man, you're gonna make a great father 👍🏻
    Maybe you have mentioned this before and I just didn't pick up on it, but what is your current age, if you don't mind me asking?
    I got into training purely for strength about 3 years ago, I'm 34 now and my best PRs are
    Squat 405 #
    Bench 315 #
    Deadlift 435 #
    OHP 200 #
    All right around 200# body weight. Any insight you would have for me would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

  • @Powerhouse735
    @Powerhouse735 2 роки тому +21

    I can confirm from my own life experience that you can get strong without having a high test level. My test levels have been in the mid 300s on the few bloods tests I’ve had over the years. As a drug free lifter my personal best lifts in powerlifting 735 knee wrapped squat 405 bench and 710 deadlift. I always found this topic to be interesting and am glad to see you bring this up. As you stated higher levels of testosterone will most certainly be a big advantage but it’s not a death blow by any means if you want to get strong and not use steroids.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 2 роки тому

      The question gets tricky once you hit your mid 30s though. Then it becomes difficult to just maintain muscle and strength much less build it

    • @sharnotam1578
      @sharnotam1578 2 роки тому +6

      @@brianmeen2158 Not neccesary, 38 here, have a muscular body and still gaining and getting bigger. Doing the same thing as always. Im stronger and have more muscle mass then i had 8 years ago. There are alot of more factors then age.

    • @agnidas5816
      @agnidas5816 2 роки тому +1

      @@sharnotam1578 if you train optimally in your younger years there is no way to beat those results later on. If you keep developing for 8 years it means your training is absolute shite and you never push yourself or you also what often happens is your record keeping is shit. Humans are full of errors. I saw how my classmates performed in school ... and our school was way above average.

    • @l750z_6
      @l750z_6 2 роки тому

      How do you test how high your testosterone is?

    • @Kaledrone
      @Kaledrone Рік тому +1

      @@agnidas5816 This is factually false. It is NOT uncommon for top level powerlifters who have been competing since their early 20's to get better into their 30's or even 40's as long as they haven't completely destroyed their body with injuries. Go tell them about how they didn't "train optimally" when they were younger despite competing at the top level Mr Agnidas. You don't know what you are talking about, you just sound like a middle aged dude who probably stopped training and now wants to blame everything on age, the usual "I used to bench 405 in high school". My advice is if you haven't done thorough research into something, don't have an opinion and shut up.

  • @andrewlabohn9597
    @andrewlabohn9597 2 роки тому

    Love the honesty, hope all is well.

  • @tylerhebert8237
    @tylerhebert8237 2 роки тому

    I look forward to this content. I haven't really considered gear yet, but with my goals that decision will come up eventually. I would like to see the after effects that you deal with. Thanks for doing this.

  • @kellyfrankie0331
    @kellyfrankie0331 2 роки тому

    I really appreciate this 🙏 I just subscribed. Keep up the great work.

  • @NoelD4l
    @NoelD4l 2 роки тому

    Very great and informative slaute for this work

  • @jfro5867
    @jfro5867 2 роки тому

    Great video. Very powerful message.

  • @aaronwatts07
    @aaronwatts07 2 роки тому

    This was really interesting and informative! Thank you

  • @KarilSampson
    @KarilSampson 2 роки тому

    I don't strength train competitively, but I truly appreciate this information. To the point without the fluff. Thank you.

  • @Raishondo
    @Raishondo 2 роки тому

    7:58 thought my headphones unplugged and heard you coming from my speakers lmao

  • @petesoleet
    @petesoleet 2 роки тому

    Appreciate the honesty bro. Wish you well man

  • @nitronitro1274
    @nitronitro1274 2 роки тому

    Great video man!

  • @firelinefitness6496
    @firelinefitness6496 2 роки тому

    Very wellspoken. appreciate all the info that you shared

  • @athefitz
    @athefitz 2 роки тому +2

    Love this. Thanks for sharing. I vote you stay natty and and be an inspiration for middle aged men like me. Good luck whatever you choose. And good luck with building your family.

  • @jameshegeman5660
    @jameshegeman5660 2 роки тому

    This is a fantastic video. 👍👍 Thank you for sharing all of this.

  • @johnsmith2221
    @johnsmith2221 Рік тому

    Thank you for the honesty.

  • @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702
    @unclemoneymoneyuncle8702 2 роки тому +2

    Aye, I greatly appreciate you putting this out there and the openness about such! Going to have to follow more of your videos now!
    That's quite impressive that you were able to rebound, I'd figure after so many years that self-castration had occurred, so it's impressive your numbers still came back (even apparently before hoping on the clomid from your doctor for the test recovery).
    You are right in that testosterone doesn't always dictate strength or size... before I got back into strength training I was doing a lot of full body conditioning and got an amazing physique, meanwhile my test levels were only about 380 which I consider to be pretty low on the scale...

  • @denas123
    @denas123 2 роки тому

    Great info! Honesty in the fitness space is few and far between.

  • @L3xXxCLuSivE
    @L3xXxCLuSivE 2 роки тому +3

    looking forward to them natty updates!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Th3BigBoy
    @Th3BigBoy 2 роки тому

    Some honesty in an industry full of lies. It's appreciated.

  • @Realifesaiyan1
    @Realifesaiyan1 2 роки тому +1

    I did my first string man show a couple months ago, I placed 4th in a pretty stacked class of middleweights. I won all the static events (drug free) and to be honest it was fun.
    Looking back I see that strongman is about all aspects of strength, not just static, but dynamic and endurance bases as well. You really have to be well rounded.
    You can get super strong natty. You definitely don’t have insane recovery and aggression but as a natural you have to program for the long game. It’s a challenge but to truly see where we can get without drugs is more appealing to me. Good job man

  • @ogre6548
    @ogre6548 2 роки тому +3

    I'd love to see you become "the guy" for natty strength sports.

  • @danielgray1446
    @danielgray1446 Рік тому

    I see that shiner bock decor. That's performance enhancing in itself

  • @vackor
    @vackor 2 роки тому +1

    Great vid!