Shane when tati made a video about james: GO OFF QUEEN, I LOVE YO. WORK THAT RING LIGHT. Shane when its a video about him: you're LYING. YOU'RE A MaNIpUlATeR. Stop FAKE CRYING
‘She BEAT her face to the GODS!!! She put on those ringlights and she POPPED OFF!!!! GAME OF THRONES SHIT BABY, THIS WILL GO DOWN IN THE HISTORY BOOKS’ Shane now: SHUT UP!!! MANIPULATOR!!!
Foopyyy i think they mean innocent as in telling the true. She is not innocent because she did do something, but she is also a victim here if she truly was manipulated
Okay but Ryland calling Tati a 40 year old in his tweet was definitely meant to insult her and diminish her on purpose. She’s 38, so he called her 40 on purpose to be like oh you’re so old. I hate that some people think women lose their beauty and relevancy as they age, especially if they are public figures. It’s honestly disgusting that he would try to hit below the belt on her age. The misogyny is real
Ryland id as horrible as Shane in my opinion. And now everyone is screaming please don‘t cancel Ryland, too. However, women of criminals are most of the times actually hated for what threir husbands did even though they didn‘t even know anything. Ryland knew about everything Shane did and he should not be camcelled for it? bitch pleeeeaaaase
Nicole Coventry i know. but she shouldn’t of made the video then. i can’t trust ONE THING that woman says. she did the EXACT same thing to James and had no proof and EVERYONE believed her.
I honestly don’t know why people focus on her age so much. Shane is turning 32 this year, Jefree is turning 35. Tati is 38. She’s only 3-6 years older than them. So I don’t agree with Ryland trying to use her age as a defining factor in any of this.
It's crazy how everyone can take things differently, I am also a victim of sexual assault and I also eye rolled when she said that because she is using it to justify accusing james as being a sexual predator publically. I understand why you are more likely to believe it but he was your friend and meeting with someone once makes you believe your friend is a monster? I dont buy it I am not saying jeffree and shane are perfect or not problematic but she made the decision to make a video and try to ruin a kids life, shane and jeffree might of told you that but you took it one step farther. Are we also just forgetting tati sent PR to drama channels? I see that as being potentially manipulative, I think all of them are manipulative and narcissistic.
I think because if you looked at shane comments and twitter people ripped into Shane about saying he was a victim of sexual assualt so it is hypocritical that people are like yeah tati is allowed a moment to bring that up but he wasn't
can we please remember that James accepted Tati’s apology. if it’s enough for him, the person it most seriously affected, it should be good for others.
Agree and disagree. He can forgive her that’s great for him. However I’m not obligated to like or forgive anyone but I’m also not entitled to attack them relentlessly.
Shane was his scapegoat the entire time. I'm more than positive he's laughing and loving the downfall of a man he also manipulated and used. He takes great pleasure from all of this.
Its interesting that when sh*t hits the fan for J* that suddenly all this past Sh*t comes up for Shane. Shane has done a lot of messed up things. But who is digging up Shane's past (at first because a ton of people are now)? It screams J*
you dont even know if she is telling the truth, she might as well just fake it for attention. Isnt this the like 3rd video in which she "cries" so people feel bad for her? Did we forget she tried to destroy a 19 year old's career cause of vitamins? Jealousy sucks.
When people were like “no one asked for this video” I was flabbergasted because literally everyone for the past year has been saying she needs to share her side of it all. She literally cannot please anyone, poor lady
Tyra Chretien sad truth is people with never ever be satisfied. She was silent, so she “owed” everyone an explanation. Now she speaks up, and everyone says she’s a drama queen. People are assholes.
I've seen lots of people on her video mention "there are more important things right now" (while they have a point), no one on Shane's apology video said the same thing. It's sexism at it's finest.
Kamuro Tetsu that is true. like sis we can multi task. and the same people who are all like there are more important things probably ain’t even doing anything.
Krystal Gleen I just meant poor as in she’s gone through enough because of this whole situation. I personally believe her story, as someone who used to both religiously watch her videos and Shane’s (I don’t really watch either channel now) because of the points Angelika made and some of my own that I gathered while watching her video and Shane’s cringe live. Like, the woman moved *twice* in order to distance herself and protect herself from J*, and she still doesn’t feel safe. And with all of the other beauty gurus coming out to say “yeah, everyone fears for their lives when it comes to J*,” I really can’t help but pity her
Jeffree loves to sit back and watch his "friends" get thrown under the bus and dragged through the mud while he sits on the sidelines unscathed. It's gross tbh.
Also, people keep mentioning that because tati is an “old woman” she can’t be manipulated!! Older people could be manipulated, played and gaslighted. Age has nothing to do with that.
especially if shes a victim of sexual assault. That shit does not go away with age, as a molestation victim myself I would probably feel the same way like Tati, I would want to save other ‘victims’. I know how it feels, i am also used to people saying: you are older, arent you over it? nah man. gaslighting has no age.
It’s very easy to manipulate older people imo. Especially since the younger generation has been looking up information and getting educated on their own, unlike the older generation. So in a way it is easier to manipulate someone older by convincing them that that is just how things are done nowadays. Older people (60+) are even more easier to manipulate because of their age and illnesses
@@naydenrodriguez9780 Well that's the biggest load of crap. You must be about 14. Once you're old enough to have had some real life experiences you'll cringe you ever thought this way. (Ask your parents.) Don't worry, adults have seen kids say foolish things many times, it's part of growing up.
Well I mean if someone told millions of people lies or what I think are lies I would be mad too. Especially out of no where But I understand what you mean
Ju I’m just saying that I get why he acted like that and honestly I’m just waiting for receipts on the whole manipulation thing to truly understand what Tati said she went through.
The fact that Trisha literally said “I’m not a fan of Jeffree Star anymore” like damn if miss fake DID is even canceling him, it’s definitely time for him to go!
People bringig up the age difference between Tati and James, when Tati literally said in her latest video that she was more of a mentor to him than a friend.
Seriously though, Tati's relationship with James was never sexual. She always said it was more a mentor/mentee relationship and considered James like a son. Shane on the other hand has several incidents where he has said very inappropriate things about underage children.
The way Shane is an "empath" but rolls his eyes about Tati's assault and dismisses James potentially being suicidal and jumping off the building in Australia...
speaking from experience, most of the time when people feel the need to constantly call themselves “empaths”, they are actually covert narcissists in disguise.
@@flatjazz12 true. I had a "friend" would who always say that, making me realizing I was one. When I was crying because they burnt alive the old couple of homeless people near our school, he was laughing about it.
@@Zozobi_ believe me, is still one of the saddest thing I ever saw. I wasn't able to see what happen, only the police, and asking around. Why would anyone kill by fire any senile HOMELESS person is inhuman
I didn't see tati's video as her trying to save her career, but trying to expose shane's and jeffree's involvement. The double standard between male and female creators is disguisting.
Same. She said herself that her business has been affected by the previous drama. If James forgives her, then I believe her heart was in the right place. Not like Jeffree or Shane’s
This is what so many of her critics don’t understand. Why in the world would Tati make another 40 minute video calling someone else out if she didn’t have enough proof to back up her claim? If she’s lying, that would be the absolute end of her. No one wants to work with a proven liar and no one wants to buy from one, either. Tati’s been losing subscribers for a year straight now and she’s STILL losing them as we speak after this video. She’s not GAINING anything from this - I highly doubt people, even her fans, were like, “You know what? Lemme go buy some more vitamins rn, chile” after the video... not where our heads are, at the moment. And James was going to be IN THE VIDEO. What would they have said then? “James, don’t believe her, it’s all a ploy!!!!” Even though they’ve compared notes and evidence together, realizing both were manipulated by these two people... ???
Chicken Permission I’m on no ones side on this one and I don’t want to be jumping to conclusions like last year until actual proof comes out but Tati needs to handle this privately instead of blasting it all online all.This isn’t drama/tea anymore.This is some lawsuit type shit .trust me Shane and jeffree deserve what’s coming to them and tatis already paid the price
Tom River That we can agree on! Hopefully, a lawsuit comes from all of this... if not, you have to wonder why this annual event has been tolerated year after year
Honestly, the fact that Shane has the audacity to ROLL HIS EYES when Tati says she is a victim of sexual assault is disgusting, then he calls her tears fake and to top it all off states “I was molested” he is trying to undermine her situation, it almost reflects how differently he feels in regards to the supposed victim of James Charles, he will only be empathetic when it suits him, Unacceptable.
he faked cry in the bathroom bc booboo is not a multimilionaire while wearing head to toe balenciaga and with a gucci backpack. He is the one who needs to eat humble pie of the size of the Burj Khalifa. And Jeremiah Stardust back to rags, he does not deserve that much wealth
Isn’t it ironic that in his latest apology video, Shane said he felt “deserved to be cancelled” for all that he’s done regarding his racism and pedo “jokes” yet when Tati speaks her truth, he freaks out....because he knows he’s actually about to be cancelled...If he really felt that he deserves to be cancelled for all he’s done in his “past” he should have received this as the bad karma he claimed to be so willing to receive. To me, his reaction speaks volumes to the manipulation he’s trying to pull.
Tati: “As a victim of abuse “ Shane: “ SHE IS SO MANIPULATIVE “ , Also Shane: “ I had a bad childhood and was abused which contributed to my awful actions. “ Again, Shane says he is: “ taking accountability “
Literally! we saw his true colours. All this “UA-cam dad” and his documentary’s were all clearly fake. As if it was acting. He does want to be a film make after all🤷🏻♀️
he's allowed to use his "bad childhood" as an excuse for saying the n word, doing blackface, and making inappropriate "jokes" about kids and animals, but she isn't allowed to discuss her own traumatic experience make it make sense
Just gonna put this out there- Shane running around and screaming without actually saying anything is oddly similar to onision screaming and running around when he was finally being exposed and taken down🤷♀️🤷♀️
Except he’s still not been “taken down.” Unless I’ve missed something. How come youtube is so quick to demonetize shane but not onision, a man who actually preys on young girls? A man who had Chris Hansen on his doorstep? A platform who got rid of comments on family channels because of pedophiles comments not being friendly for ads doesn’t ban or demonetize a predator... Not to mention... Everything onision was doing when he was “screaming and running around” was an act for views and to stay relevant. Onision shouldn’t even be allowed to be on OnlyFans... Ugh, Kai/Lainey and onision need to be held accountable. I hope something, anything happens to them and that their children go somewhere far, far away from them(especially after what Sarah said happened).
@@freddiebishop9622 teeth of chainsmokers are cleaner 😭 Why did we cancel Emma for her jokes about a lack of hygiene when Shane literally looks and behaves like someone who lost control over their life YEARS ago
I keep seeing the comment ”why are we caring about this when Breonna Taylors murderers still walk free” on Tatis video. Like yeah they need to get arrested but the people that comment that still support Shane and Jeffree with their racist history. That just doesn’t sit right with me. But anyway arrest the cops that killed Breonna Taylor.
Exactly :( the cops deserve to get arrested yes, but is spamming this exact same comment over and over again going to do anything? I feel like people are only doing it for likes and it breaks my heart honestly
People don’t realise you can care about more than one cause at once ? Like I can care about LGBT causes and Black Lives Matter, it’s weird that we have to be so narrow minded?
@@elissaco7800 It's not narrow minded to support multiple causes but it's narrow minded to be unable to fathom other causes because you are too caught up in the ones you already support. All issues need their space to be spoken about and if we are constantly changing the topic then no one will be heard. Not saying this a big huge issue for the public but it is for the people involved so I get it. If the allegations are true, then this case contains multiple serious charges for multiple people and youtube themselves may have to get involved as well. There is probably tons of money involved as it pertains to people's businesses and brands.
+ people saying it should've been handled privately??? like NO. shane and jeffree dont deserve to just...get away with the very big role they've played in all of this. this started publicly so it has to end publicly too
I just hope she follows through and takes those 2 turds to court... She may not have a lot of time with what's coming out on Joffrey and Shame. I really think Shame will be going to prison 🤷🏼♀️
Heather Maree I literally saw someone say that Tati was worse than Trisha as if Tati was the one who faked a mental illness and then yelled people giving them ptsd flashbacks when she “clapped back”. Tatis video was not an apology, who she needed to apologize to she already did. TWICE. I don’t know why people think they are entitled to an apology from her as if she somehow hurt them. I’m seriously concerned if she’s gonna be alright mentally after reading the toxic comments on there.
So Trisha has an issue with Tati being a mentor/friend to James Charles, but doesn’t have an issue with Shane and Jeffree (grown adults in their 30s) having weird vendettas against James?
Sincerelyshatha A for gods sake can y’all stop making it about the fuckin vitamins? How about we make it about the fact that Shane and Jeffree pressured/manipulated Tati into making a video so that they could sell MAKEUP? Real nice double standard people have here. J Star wanted his competition gone.
@Sincerelyshatha A what are u even on about? Jeffree wanted james out of the way so he could be the top beauty guru, with the most subscribers and viewers. That is not hard to comprehend
Shane dawson: i’M aN eMpaTh!!! Also Shane when Tati says she is a victim of sexual assault: *rolls eyes* YOURE SO MANIPULATIVE. I WAS MOLESTED!!! YOURE FAKE CRYING. SHES FAKE CRYING!!!1!
@Luke C I think that my friend is an empath and she loves horror movies even though she is later scared to go to the bathroom, lmao. I think that he is just attracted to human struggle and pain but only cares about short-term fixes. That's why he doesn't check up on people afterwars.
He‘s not an empath at all. As an actual empath this hurts. He only says this to seem like s good person. Being an empath is hard because you feel the energy of everyone around you very hardly so an empath would never do those things
I think they said it like that because empaths feel the emotions and energies of people really strongly, so seeing people die could be hard, even though I don’t think thats an actual thing because they’re actors.I don‘t like horror movies because the energy makes me feel uncomfortable but yeah lol
She already explained everything, and she talked about comments like yours too and surprisingly made a lot of sense, watch it at least before commenting
What annoyed me is how Shane played the “my shit is worse than urs” card as a valid point in his eyes. Everyone hurts. Everyone struggles. Everyone battles something. If he was actually molested as a child that is awful but to use it against Tati as a means to say she’s not as valid in her reasoning bc he was abused too? That’s fucking wrong man. Abuse doesn’t play favorites and no ones abuse is worse than anyone else’s. It’s all bad. And it all affects people in such different but valid ways. Shane had the energy of “a bad childhood made me say racist things” a few days ago and expected everyone to understand that. But when Tati says “I was sexually assaulted which is why i was extremely affected by this information” and it’s all of a sudden manipulative in Shane’s eyes? Come on dude. Fuck off and make it make sense
I don't think he was molested because someone found an excerpt from one of his books saying how 'beautiful' he was as a child and how he was 'offended' that he wasn't molested which is truly awful in itself and if the excerpt is real (i can't confirm because I can't find it again :/ ) he literally lied about being molested for sympathy or to make himself feel better. he's honestly a joke.
@@josephgouri2959 I think her troll status has depleted. People are now calling her out with her trolling. Also they stopped buying into her hypocrisy (those rare days when she wants to be serious) She's also lost some subs
@@timothy2491 i also feel like the vocabulary she uses in those "serious" videos is just what she gathered from opinions on twitter or yt. None of the ideas and points she makes comes from her.
It bothers me that people put Tati in the same category as Shane and Jeffree. I don’t think she’s blameless or perfect but they are absolutely not on the same level lol EDIT: just want to clarify I’m not excusing Tati’s wrong doings, like I said she’s not blameless but I was just making an observation from the comments and posts I’ve seen on twitter and Reddit that people say she’s just as bad as the other two.
yep!!! dramageddon was literally the first time she was caught up in a major scandal. whereas for shane and jeffree scandals are second nature at this point looool. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!!!!
Can we just talk about this: When Shane does something, his fans are like: he's just so naive and easily manipulated, it's not his fault. Yet, with Tati everyone is like: she is a grown woman and should be able to make her own decisions. Like?? They are basically the same age.
Oh my God, you are right,I never thought about that. I don't like to act like a SJW or feminist or something, but there is a clear bias on YT when it comes to accepting apologies from men and women. I don't understand why that is, like Jaclyn Hill did mess up big time with those lipsticks, but yet she is dragged far more on YT and Twitter than J* is. And this man did far worster things.
@@onepiecestudio1797 To be fair, Jeffree Star actually uploads content that engages with his audience while Jaclyn makes glorified advertisements before leaving in the next couple of months. If people feel more connected to you, they are more likely to defend you. So while sexism probably does play a part, Jaclyn doesn't really have such a devoted following like Jeffree Star does. Which is unfortunate since a thousand Jaclyns is better than one Jeffree :/
When I was a child the man who molested me for years introduced me to Shane, introduced the concept of sexualizing children as a joke and something people don't take seriously, then victimized me for years. His content damaged real people. Sorry if a story about him buying an iPad doesn't exactly warm my heart.
Omg. That is...horrible. There are no words to describe it. Jesus. This really shows how making something serious a joke can hurt people. I really hope you are ok now and that son of a bitch is is rotting.
That is disturbing and horrible! I'm so so sorry that happened to you. You are exactly right, good deeds do not cancel out the damage his content has done to others!
Tati: James is like my son, we have mentor/mentee relationship. Trisha: oMg TaTi iS a PrEdAtOr!! Shane: Calls a 6 year old sexy, tells 12 year olds to twerk and to do inappropriate things with cocktail weenies, tells another underage girl to twerk and take it off, does inappropriate shit in front of a Willow Smith poster Trisha: ...... Like I'm not too familiar with Trisha except for the content I see of her from Angelika's channel but from what I have seen I wouldn't trust Trisha.
DaBootifulMustache Queen or do you mean the Tati thing because she said that in her BYE SISTER video last year if you wanna go watch some videos about that
Shane said in a podcast that he doesn’t understand why someone getting off to a picture of a naked baby would be considered pedophilia. He compared pedophilia to a foot fetish.
trisha: “i got five midroll ads during tati’s video!! she’s so greedy omg!!” like did she watch the last 10 minutes of the video where tati said all the proceeds will be going directly to a charity she’s supported for years...???
Brianna Laya THIS!! like yea Trisha might of said that, but what she said in the video was some facts and she had some valid points. I love the way this person just straight up forgets all of that and focuses on ONE wrong thing Trisha might of missed.
Krystal Gleen quick question sis, which of Trish’s alter was speaking this fact?🙄 I don’t listen to delusional people. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
Matilda Nkanga Girl they can’t tell you. These two have been under every comment trying to shit on Tati and co-signing both the misogyny and the blatant victim blaming. It’s insane. The fact that they talk about how TRISHA is credible.... but have said multiple times how they just can’t trust Tati, a woman who’s been on the platform for over a decade and has only had drama this past year... stop. The second hand embarrassment from them is unreal.
Brianna Laya girl stop. It’s not cute. Don’t talk about how we need to stop looking at Trisha’s past, when in that case we need to stop looking at Tati’s past of drama.... which has extend back to about a year now, whilst Trishas has been going about 6 years strong now.
Brianna Laya sis, watch Tati’s video. She said she apologized to James Charles and he FORGAVE her. If her apology was good enough for James, I don’t understand why you’re pissed on his behalf. You’re oh so quick to believe Trish, who bullied Disassociadid, trash talked about them, made a video mimicking and insulting them which made Nin and the alters have a suicide attempt. They aren’t back on social media yet cause they’re still healing. Trish never apologized, but yeah Tati is the bad guy yeah? Cool.
I think that the timing of when Shane ended the live stream should be talked about more. He ended it just before Tati referenced his comments made after she mentioned her concerns for James' safety. I think his timing is proof he said those things as why did he look so scared and act like he knew what was coming before he even heard it? Surely if it was false he would have waited to see what he apparently said rather than ending it quickly before Tati referenced his disgusting comments. His live stream just adds more credibility to Tati's video and did him no favours.
yes! i noticed that too. I think it clicked what she was going to talk about and he exited the live immediately. The live was SO close to hearing her say that shane didn’t care that james was suicidal, i really don’t think it was a coincidence
I think that he said whatever Tati claim. He didn't appeared shocked with what she was saying, just livid. You would expect that he would at least be taken aback by what she is telling since they are watching it for he first time but he was only livid. Just like he was when people where giving him feedback on his "movie" all those years ago.
shane rolled his eyes and was about to say “shut up” when tati talks about being a victim of abuse. i’m waiting for more info on the rest, but i’m done with rumpelstiltskin.
Where is Jeremiah in this entire situation? I'm not excusing Shane's actions but Voldemort shoved shane into it to clear himself of the backlash and now he is silent.
Tati literally said she knows this might be the end of her career and she still posted this video. This woman has been on UA-cam for ten years and just minded her business. Sigh
She didn’t mind her business tho. Nobody was talking about her but she decieded to blame her actions last year on Jeffrey and Shane instead of just holding herself accountable and keep it pushing. If you really want to hold yourself accountable as an adult, you don’t have to explain anything just apologize. That’s it.
Varldine Sss she apologized and James forgave her. People are still not putting blame where it’s due. Do you NOT realize how Shane and jeffree backed her into a corner? They literally used this woman’s sexual assault against her so that she would make that video for them. That is textbook manipulation. Yeah Tati could’ve made some wiser choices, and she is not totally innocent, but also let’s look at the REAL puppet masters behind this: Shane and Jeffree. If your unwilling to forgive someone for one mistake it’s shitty because we all make them and I think she owned up to what she did. She DID have to explain because people were demanding that she do so, and she also apologized to James way before she even made this video and they made up. She has every right to expose Shane and jeffree because people need to see how problematic they both are and they need to stop getting away with shit.
Because all people are interested in nowadays is cancelling people. They don’t care if someone has changed, if someone makes a mistake they’re done for. It’s sad and fucked up especially bc I really like Tati tbh and I think she learned her lesson. It’s really sickening to see so many people still sending her hate and harassing her, while Shane and Jeffree continue to get away with murder 🙃 no one is ever interested in holding them accountable
i think it’s great that her and james are fine but i don’t want to support her anymore lol. like it was not my apology to accept i get that, but like i can keep disliking her based on her constantly shifting blame and other shitty behavior. also make no mistake i also dislike shane and jeffree
Deadass you don't have to believe her but can we please stop acting like older people can't be victims? Thanks (also she's only 38, people are trying so hard to exaggerate her age to discredit her)
I'm happy James hasn't gotten involved yet even though everyone is talking about him. That shows so much growth! And the fact he has moved on and forgave Tati is amazing too :)
That is amazing. I just do not think he should ever trust her as much as he did before again. For someone to back stab you like that the way Tati did James is on another level.
He forgave it so he can forget it and move on. I’m sure he wants nothing to do with TW’s old raggedy ass. And he is smart not to speak on SD and JS. He needs to do him and make his videos.
Trisha clearly didn’t watch the whole video lol all ad money goes to charity. And the fact the she’s trying to make James and Tati’s relationship seem inappropriate is literally insane. They were both in the makeup industry also she was like another mom to him.
She literally just watches around her, sees what a "hot topic" even if they are serious issues and goes "that will be my personality/argument" today and starts accusing whoever she has a problem with that week
people would be allowed to “dislike” her public apology if she owned an apology to the general public, but since she only owned james an apology ya’ll really don’t have a thing to say cause it’s not your apology to take
woahh sis this exactly tho. Why are people acting like Tati wronged them? She didn’t, and she apologized to the person that she wronged behind closed doors. So all this bs about how her apology wasn’t good enough, like sis, that’s not even your place to judge? Stay mad I guess 🤷🏽♀️
Smokey glow did a cool video on this and she brought up how JCharles situation broke “social blade” and that there was a big ripple effect. I thought it was an intersting point of view 🤓
That’s not the point. It’s that her apology wasn’t an apology. She shifted blame on everyone else except for herself and backtracked on all of the accusations she made against James Charles. She didn’t make the apology video to give him an apology. She made it to paint herself as a victim and “woe is me” then moved the attention from herself onto Shane and Jefree. She’s a manipulator. People don’t only care about the apology, they see through Tati’s lies and manipulation.
His fans went onto her channel and filled the comments with hate basically acting like it came out of nowhere and wasn't wanted, which was so confusing until I realized Shane went on live
Probably jumping into money Scrooge McDuck style and cackling about Shane being canceled because people are now so invested in this that he'll probably come out of this as "successful" as before
Everyone: Tati, people are dying. But if Tati would have made her first new video about the pandemic... Everyone would be like: Yeah okay, Tati, WE KNOW, but what about your drama with Jeffree and Shane? 👀
i know this has been talked about a lot but you’re not an ‘empath’ if someone starts tearing up about their sexual abuse and your first reaction is to roll your eyes and say “shut up”
Thea the people he feels ‘empathy’ for are jake paul and jeffree star..... powerful, rich men with a history of mistreating people and bigotry.... make it make sense
The thing that sold it for me was that he tweeted about how much he loved her and watched her videos to fall asleep. If that was true, I would have expected shock and upset at accusations, not anger. If they weren't true. 🤔
That's what I notice too. I recently watched the behind the scenes of his "movie." He was just as livid and angry as when people were trying to give him constructive criticism and he was furious that people didn't want to play his offensive characters. He was also that angry when the site with his Jeffree make up collab was falling. So it seem that this Shane comes out wheneber things don't go the way he planned them to go.
His reaction looked like SHOCK surprise AND disappointment to me. Im actually confused as to why people think this looks like anything else. LOL people will be back.
Or the fact that he got so angry about Tati, but shows NO emotion about Jayden, Jada, and Will Smith literally ending any possibility of him having a career in Hollywood.
When Shane stops himself from presumably calling Tati another name and says “I don’t want to say mean things about people” its basically him saying “I don’t want to show even more of my true colours.” but he’s trying to come of as a nice person, like he never says mean things lmao.
I've been watching Tati for almost six years and before all that she literally had ZERO "drama" surrounding her. She has always been true to herself, credible and trustworthy even in her makeup reviews. Let's not pretend that we don't know how toxic relationships work and age has nothing to do with it. I find it extremely offensive and misogynistic to discredit her like that. Why people (especially white males) use age as an insult? It makes me incredibly sad to read all those nasty comments under her video, she made a mistake, owned up to it and apologized to the person she hurt. But how would you act if someone used you for more money and power? Wouldn't you make a video trying to defend yourself and speak up? I swear people are such hypocrites and forget that people on the internet are also just people. With FEELINGS and a LIFE. She just wanted hers back. So thank you Angelika for speaking your mind, I find your videos and your comment section to be a ray of light.
Apologizing isn’t shifting the blame 10 seconds later, just saying. She has no accountability whatsoever, and she put herself as the victim of this whole thing even tho the real victim was James. Let’s not be so gullible like we were last time we decided to take her word without a single receipt🙄 she’s no saint. All 3 of them should face the consequences for what they did.
Your extremely correct about all of this and I couldn’t have said it better myself. People are trashing her so hard, it’s really sad. Just like you said, her reputation was very solid for many years, where as jeffree and Shane have ALWAYS had bad reps and yet people still support them and give them free passes no matter what shit they pull. It’s unfair and very sad to see. Also, I’m done with people commenting shit about her not taking accountability or her apology not being good enough. News flash to those people: TATIS APOLOGY IS NOT YOURS TO ACCEPT IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT WAS JAMES AND HE ACCEPTED IT. MOVE ON, and ffs stop holding so much hatred in yourself for someone you don’t even know and someone who doesn’t owe you shit.
Watch other people's videos about tati she isn't innocent, she has tried to sue smaller UA-camr she just keeps her stuff behind the scenes. She just as greedy and manipulative as the others. Innocence is part of her brand not who she really os
Also, Tati’s past trauma caused an overreaction to assault rumors about James. Shane’s trauma “caused” him to make pedophile jokes. Her reaction from her trauma is valid. His isn’t
I'm actually wondering if the Pinkett-Smith family had approached UA-cam about Shane's demonetization. They would be one of the only "UA-camrs" that could make UA-cam exec's do something.
Also what confuses me is that she was a mentor figure to james... Often mentors are older... I dont understand the outrage... It makes it seems as if she had other motives to befriend james... When clearly there wasnt. She was just helping him out and being there for him. Why is that a crime...?
Tati ain’t innocent. Forget her age then. SHE CHOSE TO MAKE A 40 MINUTE VIDEO, EDIT THAT VIDEO, AND UPLOAD IT! now she’s doing the same thing to jebidah starfish and slug (i don’t shower) doorknob, with literally NO PROOF! i don’t trust ANY OF THEM! none of them are innocent!
No I think that actually all of them are lying and manipulative one way or the other and that we should stop supporting all 3 of them. I never supported any of them really but now I will definitely avoid every video from any of their channels. All i see from them is money hungry back stabbing middle age people 🤷♂️
It's interesting because Ryland's tweet about how Tati says she's fine doing it all on her own proves that her and Shane did discuss it and she declined his help, which is exactly what she said in the video lmao
Also, the part when he wrote that "Shane would have made video on James if he felt to inclined." Is possible predator getting away with abusing people not good enough "inclination" for Shane to prevent further victims? They really are worth each other.
i think people bring up all their ages, like all of them are full ass adults and they’ve created so much unnecessary drama, if tati is right then they basically did some burn book level shit or if tatis lying its her trying to salvage her reputation after spreading harmful lies about a kid
I think also bc she kept saying she was manipulated to post those videos & stuff and when your almost 40 you can definitely make decisions for yourself
when i first started therapy and was trying to recover after my abuse, i was talking about how i have these strong reactions and strong emotions when i heard/saw/thought of any of my triggers. my therapist told me a quote that i think is very relevant in this whole situation. she said "if it's hysterical, it's historic" and i think everyone needs to keep that in mind. the second tati mentioned she was a victim of sexual assault herself, everything made so much more sense. was saying all of those allegations about james inappropriate, especially considering she didnt provide evidence? yes. but i think, in her mind, her reaction was rational. the information she was given triggered her. she was just told by two people that she trusted that another person she trusted was doing the same terrible thing that had happened to her. i think it absolutely makes sense as to why she "overreacted". and, though that doesnt excuse her from taking accountability, i think that's an important factor to acknowledge when trying to argue that "she's a grown woman. she should have known better. why did she believe them?" if you were assaulted and one of your closest friends told you that someone else you trust is assaulting other people, you'd do whatever it took to try to spare someone else from going through what you did. this is totally just my opinion and simply based on my own experience, but i do think it's an interesting point that should be considered.
And her comment section is full of people either dismissing her, calling her terrible things and names, and people praising Trisha for “speaking facts”
And people basically saying that her issues don't matter and that "there are bigger issues like BLM!" "While all your petty drama is going on Brionna Taylor's murderer still isn't arrested 🙄 " while she's talking about her abuse and how she was manipulated and basically got her career destroyed + warning everyone about Shane and Jeffree who've done horrid things because some people don't know whether to trust and support jefree and Shane. Those men have done so much harm to people and Tati is giving insight on the situation, which could prevent more harm to people and less people to support bad people, and everyone's just dismissing her and bringing up a different issue like she's allowed to talk about her own issues too.
Honestly Tati’s video comment is making me sad. Calling her this and that, completely ignoring what she meant and take her point in the wrong way or out of context. I’m neutral though bc of last year I choose the wrong side in 2019 and now I want to see from every side first. But seeing how people immediately disregard Tati’s statement and then a lot of people believing/agreeing Trisha is like, have we learned nothing? Also Trisha is the embodiment of a liar, if anything I wouldn’t believe Trisha more than Tati.
@@bebeliveshere5950 Maybe she did eventually, she doesn't seem entirely stupid, but she got a lot of things wrong in her response and people are going "yas! She is the only one making sense!" because it aligns with their own knee jerk reaction to defend Shane while attacking Westbroock and putting a bit of responsibility on Star.
Here's my two cents: Shane went into survival mode and since being so "genuine and real" is what has kept him on people's good side, he made a live of his reactions trying to say the "right things" to try to stop people switching to Tati's side. And obviously Trisha will defend Shane. he's one of the few UA-camrs willing to be friends with her. James Charles forgave her and is backing her up on this. That needs to mean something. He was suicidal because of this. He could have just forgave her and move on for his mental health. But backing her up? it's because there needs to be some true on Tati's story.
James is probably as angry about the situation as Tati was. They suffered emotionally the most in the whole things so it's natural that they have a grudge. I think that Tati has more of an issue with Shane while James has an axe to grind with Jeffree.
I’m really glad that there’s at least one person who’s taking time to truly analyze this. I’ve seen so many comments just using Trisha’s vid to bash Tati without actually considering the credibility of both and who truly is the mastermind in all of this
Personally I think that Tati saw James doing inapropariet (spelling? english is not my first language, sorry) things like jokes, talking very sexual on videos, talking about straight guys,... J* and SD feed her with storys about victims bc they knew that SA is a teiggering topic for her. And when the whole Vitamin thing came she felt betrayed and she was right that was not a good move to promote sleeping gummis to a jung audience. I think all of that together made her see things way worse than what they really were. There friendship was in a bad state at that moment and she just reacted emotional and made that video. She should not have done that! But I can see maybe why she did it and James forgave her. That is good enough for me. J* and SD were not emotional involved - they wanted the drama for $$$. I hope that makes sense. Again sorry for my bad english!
Cornelia goes_to_hogwarts yeah, Tati said that the vitamin thing was the last drop on a long list of things, and J* and SD just feed that anger and suggested the video as the “only alternative” to make JC understand. Not excusing Tati but it sounds believable.
Illusion of Quality yeah... SD make her believe they were friends and they even filmed a colab that never went out, so the story of Tati of SD dropping her after the Bye Sister makes sense. It would explain why they stopped being friends and the collab never saw the light 👀 Tati said they compared messages and realized they had lied to Tati so yikes.
I mean he could have lied in the book. Like allot of people don't tell the truth about abuse for good reasons so I'm not doubting him on that. Let's believe survivors even ABSOLUTE TRASH survivors like Shane. Okay off my podium
@@sleepyhermit5758 or he could be lying now to try and one up Tati. If he was going to lie about it why even write about it in the book? That doesn't make any sense. He's showing y'all his true colors and believing everybody without thinking critically is exactly how Bye Sister nearly ruined James life. Even if it is true he didn't say it to share his truth, to expose his abuser, or help anyone he did it to try and win pissing contest agai st Tati of who's trauma is worse and to try and invalidate her trauma.
@@sleepyhermit5758 exactly. Many individuals lie about it. Like in his book, doesn't he also say he is straight when he is actually bi? If that's true then he just wants to hide that he got molested n stuff
Shane even said in his book 'I Hate Myselfie' that he has never been molested as a child and was 'offended' that he wasn't. So there is potential that he was lying in his livestream to manipulate everyone, the IRONY
But i remember him saying in his videos that he was. Idk he could be in denial or something. Not trying to defend him but unless he clears everything up there is no reason to jump into conclusions
Women are basically conditioned to take each other down. Fucking patriarchy. Whenever there is a man who fucks up it’s brushed under the rug. But when a women does it it’s instant cancellation. Without even looking into it. On behalf of my gender I’m sorry if I have ever contributed to this issue. I’m sorry I was ever blind to this. I’m sorry
It’s giving me very creepy vibes. I watched most of onision’s videos when he was basically goign crazy and it just rubbed me the wrong way the same way the live did. Running around, yelling, can’t even speak, etc. They both knew/know they were/are guilty and it shows by how they have no important insight and things to say about how they could be innocent. Insane.
@@cbu2666 the irony that onision warned us he was pedophile years ago, and then turned into an alleged sexual assaulter himself. The statistics of UA-cam pedophiles/sexual assaulters must be well off the deep end these days.
Also, him being all like: “aNoThER aD?!” I’m like, uh, yeah. Did he miss the beginning of the video when Tati said all proceeds were going to charity? Guess so - you miss details when you’re having conniptions, Shane 🙄
Sure a charity that could be given to support blm which she obviously doesn’t care about. This charity honestly looks like a religious cult lmao please visit the website.
When shane said "I dont wanna say mean things about people"...THAT right there shows just how manipulative he is. He said nothing BUT mean things to the whole beauty community in his "apology" on Twitter, and now he acts like his such a good, kind, caring human being who doesn't want to say mean things to others?!?!. Literally when I heard that part in the video I cringed so hard. He's still playing the I'm an empath card and I'm over it
Kabir Gupta James already got a mother and James was way more popular and had more followers then Tati. So to me is Tati was one who was trying to get closer to James to become more famous and get more subs. She just did it for the money lol
Shane’s reaction in his Instagram live and wanting “as many people as possible in here” to manipulate with his reaction caused him to show his whole chest with his involvement in this. The SWITCH in how he reacted in his “apology” and his live exposes him entirely
This one was a big mistake. I know the difference when person is upset because someone is wrong about him and when someone is upset because they know they've fcked up 🙃 this is the latter
She basically accused him of manipulating het and orchestrating dramageddon 2. That is why she had panick attack. You would have it too if You were in his position.
He was in sheer panic mode realizing the pressure he put on Tati had backfired. I’m glad he’s being shown for being just as manipulative as Jeffree. Sad thing is, Jeffree isn’t even coming to defend him. I think Shane got caught up in trying to be like Jeffrey and over the last few years became more of a skewed individual in JS’s shadow. And now he’s reaping what he’s sown. Karma always comes back around.
You can tell he was about to say "shut up" when she said she was a victim of sexual abuse....then calls her a manipulator?? She literally has experience about the topic that James was falsely accused of, like, thats very relevant.....and then goes on to say I was molested as if he is the only one who has ever been sexually assaulted. He is literally saying the same thing as her why is it ok for him to bring up but not her
The fact that he even was just about to tell someone saying they've been assaulted to "shut up" made me lose it. Even if it comes out Shane isn't "evil" what he was about to say was inexcusable and disgusting. edit: also everything else he's said over the years. But the "shut up" from a recent video, from an "empath". Shane can fuck off with his bs.
I thought it was just as fake as Laura’s 😂😂😂 I could fake cry better not to excuse Shane and Jeffers behavior but she is the main one to blame unless they held a gun to her head and made her post it. First off she can’t say Shane a person she barely knew forced her to do anything especially if she cared about James that much I’m sorry but no one will make me talk shit about my friends especially if I’m so worried That they might take their life 🙄🙄🙄 she is a grown ass woman who was also jealous of a child
I watched pewdiepie’s video on “ranking UA-cam apologies” again lmao. One thing that stood out to me was how youtubers liked to say “I take 100% responsibility and make no excuses” but makes excuse anyway lmao. Substance over form.
How if she put the blame on them? Tati is a grown woman and took the opinion of two people she barely knew more seriously than her friendship with James which was years long. She’s just as problematic because she really made a whole video dragging someone half her age over fucking gummies and started this a whole drama. They’re ALL toxic but everyone acts likes she’s a saint.
The thing is, the only person she needed to apologize to was James and since she's already done that and he's forgiven her, it really isn't our place to comment on it. I think her video was a public announcement sort of thing to tell everyone where her relationship with James is at.
@Mommy Dearest yes when you look at trisha's track record you clearly see that her biggest personality trait is shock value. Every damn video of her (even if i find them funny) are just to grab some views.
Trisha is right she put the blame on other people while she is a grown woman. She making herself the victim of all of this is the easiest way to try to get out
I was a shane stan and very hesitant to let someone so close to my heart go, but after that Instagram live I don't know how I could support that anymore. Literally the worse thing he could've done
I think realistically we've all been in a situation where somebody is lying about something you've done and you feel so helpless because nobody seems to believe you. I think his live was portraying him feeling enraged because someone was lying about him and trying to jump on the hate train and shift all the blame on him, without taking any accountability. I don't dismiss his action but I think instead of cold heartedly believing everything she says or he says we should take it with a pinch of salt. I believe people can grow and change and he has proven that with his recent content.
"-My eyelashes were litellary 3 inches long and made audible flapping sounds when I blinked. Like a fairy flying thro the clouds. I'm still shocked and slightly offended that I was never molested."
I was already disgusted enough from his racist and pedo jokes, now it's even worse. I feel like a horrible fucking person just for ever being a fan tbh
It is so odd to me that Trisha of all people tried to imply that tati and James relationship is "inappropriate" because of their age gap. Like sis sit down, your entire career was built off of crying on the kitchen floor and hanging out with youngsters 😍💖
everyone saying “sHe’S a GRowN wOmaN, sHe MakEs hEr Own DecSioNs”,,,. please educate yourself on gaslighting!! it changes your perception of events and, ergo, you cannot make informed and rational decisions!! not to MENTION that the topic of S/A is clearly something that hits a lot of emotions for her as a victim, of COURSE she wasn’t going to make a rational decision !!!!
She was also mad about James promoting her competition. So she had her own agenda. She wanted James to wake up and put down whatever he was doing.. so instead of calling him privately ...let’s make a video calling him out saying from her own experience he was trying to turn straight guys gay. People seem to forget all the shit she said and follow her like a sheep.
It happened to me when I was half her age but I can assure you it would still have happened to me if I was double her age. Age has nothing to do with this. Gaslighting is gaslighting.
george lopez but the point is she apologized to James and he ACCEPTED it he even desperately wanted to do the video with her, she said I’m so sorry numerous times in that video. I feel like if James has fully come out in support of her and all of the other people she has wronged have accepted her apology obviously she’s doing something right.
curlyemmm 123 yes but in her video, she’s basically saying I’m sorry James Charles, but really Jeffrey and Shane pushed me to do it. That’s not a real apology that’s a fake apology trying to pass blame and play victim card.
the way shane immediately rolled his eyes and called tati a "manipulator" and "liar" after she said she's been sexually abused.... so disgusting and insensitive. this dude genuinely doesn't have an ounce of empathy or self awareness in him. i'm glad youtube demonetized his channel- he does NOT deserve a career after everything he's done.
Because shes fake crying and reading a script. You don't just throw a mention of abuse into something like that. I don't know much about Tati, about if she was or wasn't abused, but either way thats not a very good place to put that.
TheKupaKeep420 it’s an absolutely relevant place to put it? A victim of sexual assault using it to explain (not justify or excuse) why they reacted what was in hindsight so blindly and at the drop of a hat to accusations of sexual assault to a person they cared about...makes perfect sense.
When men go grey, they're called "silver foxes", whereas women are encouraged to keep themselves young in any and every possible way or men will never want them *rolls eyes*
Yeah I think she is really admirable for her to admit her slight bias towards believing Tati but manage keep a level head throughout this situation. It’s nice to see how much she has improved in that aspect and it is something we can all learn from.
James needs to take Jeffree to Court and Sue him so everything he's worth he can sue for mental damages and false accusations that could lead to jail time
If they open a civil case (not a criminal case) I don’t think jail time can be a part of the punishment, I’m pretty sure it’s just for money. I might be wrong though!
@@angel127_I know enough to know that if someone were to report what Jeffrees said about James sexually assulting someone to the police James could get arrested and if it's not true James could build a case off of it and get a huge settlement I'm actually surprised no one has sued Jeffree yet if tati does I really hope James does as well or adds to her lawsuit and gets a settlement as well
All I’m gonna say is this: Tati is handling this like an adult. Shane is reacting like a scared child not knowing how to react while Papa Jeffree is hiding trying to let Shane take the fall out.
talk about the fact that in his book he literally says he was never molested.... he made it up so he can play the victim. saw a quote on twitter from his book that he was describing how cute of a kid he was he was kind of offended he was never molested.
He has joked about molestation and pedophilia so much that I think it’s a defense mechanism for what happened to him as a child. Survivors of abuse and molestation often do that, and even lie and say that never happened. I think he was abused.
Just because he wrote that in his book, doesn’t mean he wasn’t. I’m not saying he was or wasn’t because I don’t want to speculate. He is the only one that actually knows what happened.
I used to be a fan of Jeffree and Shane. I was the girl he gave the conspiracy palette to at the Cheesecake Factory, I’m disgusted I ever looked up to them. As a victim of sexual assault the way Shane acted when Tati said she was a victim disgusted me.
I’ve seen so many people saying “omg another ad wtf she’s just trying to make money” was it a fever dream that she said she was donating all the Adsense to a charity?
Shane when tati made a video about james: GO OFF QUEEN, I LOVE YO. WORK THAT RING LIGHT.
Shane when its a video about him: you're LYING. YOU'RE A MaNIpUlATeR. Stop FAKE CRYING
remember when he was crying in his documentary trailer while watching it 😭😭😭 see when you do clownery the clown comes back to bite
This is literally jeffree right now🙉🙈🙊 what a clown. Enjoy your fake grandmas birthday.hope you choke on all that blackmail.
‘She BEAT her face to the GODS!!! She put on those ringlights and she POPPED OFF!!!! GAME OF THRONES SHIT BABY, THIS WILL GO DOWN IN THE HISTORY BOOKS’
Shane now: SHUT UP!!! MANIPULATOR!!!
littteerrraallllyyyyy
I think he already realised how fake she is.
I’ve seen a lot of tweets somewhere along the lines of “if Tati is innocent, she wouldn’t need lawyers.” Sis, that’s not how this works.
Couldn’t agree more!
they're seriously saying that??? what the fuck
That makes no sense, wtf?
Huh???
Foopyyy i think they mean innocent as in telling the true. She is not innocent because she did do something, but she is also a victim here if she truly was manipulated
Okay but Ryland calling Tati a 40 year old in his tweet was definitely meant to insult her and diminish her on purpose. She’s 38, so he called her 40 on purpose to be like oh you’re so old. I hate that some people think women lose their beauty and relevancy as they age, especially if they are public figures. It’s honestly disgusting that he would try to hit below the belt on her age. The misogyny is real
Ryland id as horrible as Shane in my opinion. And now everyone is screaming please don‘t cancel Ryland, too. However, women of criminals are most of the times actually hated for what threir husbands did even though they didn‘t even know anything. Ryland knew about everything Shane did and he should not be camcelled for it? bitch pleeeeaaaase
I don’t like any of them. But Tati is near 40, not as an insult. She is doing the same video that she did before with NO PROOF!
Krystal Gleen the video isn’t the same and she can’t show proof as she can’t do that in law before a court case or whatever
Nicole Coventry i know. but she shouldn’t of made the video then. i can’t trust ONE THING that woman says. she did the EXACT same thing to James and had no proof and EVERYONE believed her.
I honestly don’t know why people focus on her age so much. Shane is turning 32 this year, Jefree is turning 35. Tati is 38. She’s only 3-6 years older than them. So I don’t agree with Ryland trying to use her age as a defining factor in any of this.
When Tati said "As a victim of abuse myself" he was straight up about to tell her to shut up. I don't know why people don't talk about this
I know. That live stream really showed his true side.
right? this is absolutely insane
It's crazy how everyone can take things differently, I am also a victim of sexual assault and I also eye rolled when she said that because she is using it to justify accusing james as being a sexual predator publically. I understand why you are more likely to believe it but he was your friend and meeting with someone once makes you believe your friend is a monster? I dont buy it I am not saying jeffree and shane are perfect or not problematic but she made the decision to make a video and try to ruin a kids life, shane and jeffree might of told you that but you took it one step farther. Are we also just forgetting tati sent PR to drama channels? I see that as being potentially manipulative, I think all of them are manipulative and narcissistic.
I think because if you looked at shane comments and twitter people ripped into Shane about saying he was a victim of sexual assualt so it is hypocritical that people are like yeah tati is allowed a moment to bring that up but he wasn't
Ikr
can we please remember that James accepted Tati’s apology. if it’s enough for him, the person it most seriously affected, it should be good for others.
He didn't just accept it. He wanted to be by her side when she makes the video so that she won't have to face the public alone. That's huge.
Lmao i was thinking this about people who are still cancelling tati. Imagine being more outraged than the literal victim in the situation.
@@illusionofquality979 i think he just want to have revenge on the two and cant wait to rub it on their faces.
Agree and disagree. He can forgive her that’s great for him. However I’m not obligated to like or forgive anyone but I’m also not entitled to attack them relentlessly.
@@shookqueens7081 he has bigger heart than you do, that's why
honestly this whole drama series is more interesting than some netflix originals
Haha right? I don’t like any of them but somehow highly fascinated by all of it
Omg i feel the same. Distracting from my boring life
some? you’re giving Netflix a lot of credit there
the true tea.
I swear dude
He refers to Jeffree as family but where is he now he's not once defended Shane....what a friend
Shane was his scapegoat the entire time. I'm more than positive he's laughing and loving the downfall of a man he also manipulated and used. He takes great pleasure from all of this.
Copy and pasted
Its interesting that when sh*t hits the fan for J* that suddenly all this past Sh*t comes up for Shane. Shane has done a lot of messed up things. But who is digging up Shane's past (at first because a ton of people are now)? It screams J*
shane is just another pawn is ms. jeffree’s game
bro how is he supposed to defend Shane from so many racist and pedo video proofs, there is simply nothing that can save Shane from the hole he has dug
shane's eye roll when tati started talk about her abuse... what an "empath" he is
Ikr
you dont even know if she is telling the truth, she might as well just fake it for attention. Isnt this the like 3rd video in which she "cries" so people feel bad for her? Did we forget she tried to destroy a 19 year old's career cause of vitamins? Jealousy sucks.
When people were like “no one asked for this video” I was flabbergasted because literally everyone for the past year has been saying she needs to share her side of it all. She literally cannot please anyone, poor lady
Tyra Chretien sad truth is people with never ever be satisfied. She was silent, so she “owed” everyone an explanation. Now she speaks up, and everyone says she’s a drama queen. People are assholes.
I've seen lots of people on her video mention "there are more important things right now" (while they have a point), no one on Shane's apology video said the same thing. It's sexism at it's finest.
Kamuro Tetsu that is true. like sis we can multi task. and the same people who are all like there are more important things probably ain’t even doing anything.
She ain’t a poor lady
Krystal Gleen I just meant poor as in she’s gone through enough because of this whole situation. I personally believe her story, as someone who used to both religiously watch her videos and Shane’s (I don’t really watch either channel now) because of the points Angelika made and some of my own that I gathered while watching her video and Shane’s cringe live. Like, the woman moved *twice* in order to distance herself and protect herself from J*, and she still doesn’t feel safe. And with all of the other beauty gurus coming out to say “yeah, everyone fears for their lives when it comes to J*,” I really can’t help but pity her
It REALLY rubs me the wrong way how Jeffree is seemingly getting out of this unscathed when he is the master manipulator behind THIS WHOLE THING
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
For fucking real. He didn't pick Shane for no reason.
Jeffree loves to sit back and watch his "friends" get thrown under the bus and dragged through the mud while he sits on the sidelines unscathed. It's gross tbh.
This is not over though, I have faith that his karma will come around.
HES THE MOST POWERFUL AND WORST OF THE BUNCH It's driving me bonkers
Also, people keep mentioning that because tati is an “old woman” she can’t be manipulated!! Older people could be manipulated, played and gaslighted. Age has nothing to do with that.
especially if shes a victim of sexual assault. That shit does not go away with age, as a molestation victim myself I would probably feel the same way like Tati, I would want to save other ‘victims’. I know how it feels, i am also used to people saying: you are older, arent you over it? nah man.
gaslighting has no age.
T H I S thank you
African prince email scams are calling
It’s very easy to manipulate older people imo. Especially since the younger generation has been looking up information and getting educated on their own, unlike the older generation. So in a way it is easier to manipulate someone older by convincing them that that is just how things are done nowadays.
Older people (60+) are even more easier to manipulate because of their age and illnesses
@@naydenrodriguez9780 Well that's the biggest load of crap. You must be about 14. Once you're old enough to have had some real life experiences you'll cringe you ever thought this way. (Ask your parents.) Don't worry, adults have seen kids say foolish things many times, it's part of growing up.
Shane's insta live was literally nail in the coffin. He was acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum.
When he pointed at the TV I LOST it 😭😭💀💀
Well I mean if someone told millions of people lies or what I think are lies I would be mad too. Especially out of no where
But I understand what you mean
he was deadass acting like onision
Vianney F what are you saying???are you defending him or do you not believe Tati???
Ju I’m just saying that I get why he acted like that and honestly I’m just waiting for receipts on the whole manipulation thing to truly understand what Tati said she went through.
The fact that Trisha literally said “I’m not a fan of Jeffree Star anymore” like damn if miss fake DID is even canceling him, it’s definitely time for him to go!
dont worry,, her other personality still likes him 😔✊🏻
Lu Ji Ku 🤣🤣😭😭😭🤣🤣😂
@@bonk895 omg😂😂
Lu Ji Ku lmfaooooo 😂😂😂 that’s good
and fake ftm lolll
People bringig up the age difference between Tati and James, when Tati literally said in her latest video that she was more of a mentor to him than a friend.
it's very clear a lot of people didn't even watch her video fully and just blindly bringing up any bs they can think of
@i cared luminal lol i mean some moms are like that :'D
Also, James is gay lmao
Seriously though, Tati's relationship with James was never sexual. She always said it was more a mentor/mentee relationship and considered James like a son. Shane on the other hand has several incidents where he has said very inappropriate things about underage children.
i cared luminal i agreeeeee
The way Shane is an "empath" but rolls his eyes about Tati's assault and dismisses James potentially being suicidal and jumping off the building in Australia...
speaking from experience, most of the time when people feel the need to constantly call themselves “empaths”, they are actually covert narcissists in disguise.
@@flatjazz12 true. I had a "friend" would who always say that, making me realizing I was one. When I was crying because they burnt alive the old couple of homeless people near our school, he was laughing about it.
@@aquanaridllcl970 what the
@@Zozobi_ believe me, is still one of the saddest thing I ever saw. I wasn't able to see what happen, only the police, and asking around. Why would anyone kill by fire any senile HOMELESS person is inhuman
@@aquanaridllcl970 oh to see without my eyes. This is the worst thing I've had the misfortune of reading today
I didn't see tati's video as her trying to save her career, but trying to expose shane's and jeffree's involvement. The double standard between male and female creators is disguisting.
Same. She said herself that her business has been affected by the previous drama. If James forgives her, then I believe her heart was in the right place. Not like Jeffree or Shane’s
Thirstae For Tae we shouldn’t be taking sides until actual proof comes out cause the same thing is happening as it did last year but even worse
This is what so many of her critics don’t understand. Why in the world would Tati make another 40 minute video calling someone else out if she didn’t have enough proof to back up her claim? If she’s lying, that would be the absolute end of her. No one wants to work with a proven liar and no one wants to buy from one, either. Tati’s been losing subscribers for a year straight now and she’s STILL losing them as we speak after this video. She’s not GAINING anything from this - I highly doubt people, even her fans, were like, “You know what? Lemme go buy some more vitamins rn, chile” after the video... not where our heads are, at the moment.
And James was going to be IN THE VIDEO. What would they have said then? “James, don’t believe her, it’s all a ploy!!!!” Even though they’ve compared notes and evidence together, realizing both were manipulated by these two people... ???
Chicken Permission I’m on no ones side on this one and I don’t want to be jumping to conclusions like last year until actual proof comes out but Tati needs to handle this privately instead of blasting it all online all.This isn’t drama/tea anymore.This is some lawsuit type shit .trust me Shane and jeffree deserve what’s coming to them and tatis already paid the price
Tom River That we can agree on! Hopefully, a lawsuit comes from all of this... if not, you have to wonder why this annual event has been tolerated year after year
shane dawson was acting as if tati stole his apology tactic. he gets weirder and creepier every day.
Honestly, the fact that Shane has the audacity to ROLL HIS EYES when Tati says she is a victim of sexual assault is disgusting, then he calls her tears fake and to top it all off states “I was molested” he is trying to undermine her situation, it almost reflects how differently he feels in regards to the supposed victim of James Charles, he will only be empathetic when it suits him, Unacceptable.
he faked cry in the bathroom bc booboo is not a multimilionaire while wearing head to toe balenciaga and with a gucci backpack. He is the one who needs to eat humble pie of the size of the Burj Khalifa. And Jeremiah Stardust back to rags, he does not deserve that much wealth
Constança , I couldn’t agree more, I think “a slice of humble pie” should be served as big as Jeffree’s undeserved payroll
@@erinlow1415 yes, ahahah. I ready to watch the downfall of those two bc what you attract you receive
Isn’t it ironic that in his latest apology video, Shane said he felt “deserved to be cancelled” for all that he’s done regarding his racism and pedo “jokes” yet when Tati speaks her truth, he freaks out....because he knows he’s actually about to be cancelled...If he really felt that he deserves to be cancelled for all he’s done in his “past” he should have received this as the bad karma he claimed to be so willing to receive. To me, his reaction speaks volumes to the manipulation he’s trying to pull.
To quote Emperor Palpatine, "Ironic."
YES!!!
This comment is 100% accurate
this deserves to be pinned
say it again miss mikarlie!👏🏼
Tati: “As a victim of abuse “ Shane: “ SHE IS SO MANIPULATIVE “ , Also Shane: “ I had a bad childhood and was abused which contributed to my awful actions. “ Again, Shane says he is: “ taking accountability “
when he rolled his eyes at her abuse i literally just lost all faith
Same.
Literally! we saw his true colours. All this “UA-cam dad” and his documentary’s were all clearly fake. As if it was acting. He does want to be a film make after all🤷🏻♀️
he's allowed to use his "bad childhood" as an excuse for saying the n word, doing blackface, and making inappropriate "jokes" about kids and animals, but she isn't allowed to discuss her own traumatic experience make it make sense
Just gonna put this out there- Shane running around and screaming without actually saying anything is oddly similar to onision screaming and running around when he was finally being exposed and taken down🤷♀️🤷♀️
Honestly their behavior has always been so eerily similar
@@OctoberHardCore They are basically the same person. Onision just gives less fucks.
They were friends at some point too
Should we be surprised? Those two used to be friends and collab back in the day.
Except he’s still not been “taken down.” Unless I’ve missed something. How come youtube is so quick to demonetize shane but not onision, a man who actually preys on young girls? A man who had Chris Hansen on his doorstep? A platform who got rid of comments on family channels because of pedophiles comments not being friendly for ads doesn’t ban or demonetize a predator... Not to mention... Everything onision was doing when he was “screaming and running around” was an act for views and to stay relevant. Onision shouldn’t even be allowed to be on OnlyFans... Ugh, Kai/Lainey and onision need to be held accountable. I hope something, anything happens to them and that their children go somewhere far, far away from them(especially after what Sarah said happened).
Let's be honest though, Shane put the nail in the coffin in his less than two minute instagram live. I brush my teeth for longer than that, sis.
As you should 😭💀
It showed his true colours. He wanted to say “shh” and rolled his eyes to her when she was talking about her abuse.
tonksnjoy Satan as he should, Shane’s teeth are yellowwww 🤢😌💅🏻✨
I think it was very spontaneous and showed his true colors. He deleted it quickly
@@freddiebishop9622 teeth of chainsmokers are cleaner 😭
Why did we cancel Emma for her jokes about a lack of hygiene when Shane literally looks and behaves like someone who lost control over their life YEARS ago
I keep seeing the comment ”why are we caring about this when Breonna Taylors murderers still walk free” on Tatis video.
Like yeah they need to get arrested but the people that comment that still support Shane and Jeffree with their racist history. That just doesn’t sit right with me.
But anyway arrest the cops that killed Breonna Taylor.
Exactly :( the cops deserve to get arrested yes, but is spamming this exact same comment over and over again going to do anything? I feel like people are only doing it for likes and it breaks my heart honestly
Don't they realise these murderers roaming free are the cops? They literally killed someone and are getting away with it
Imo it's absolutely disgusting that people use her name to troll the comment section, Breonna deserves more then that
People don’t realise you can care about more than one cause at once ? Like I can care about LGBT causes and Black Lives Matter, it’s weird that we have to be so narrow minded?
@@elissaco7800 It's not narrow minded to support multiple causes but it's narrow minded to be unable to fathom other causes because you are too caught up in the ones you already support. All issues need their space to be spoken about and if we are constantly changing the topic then no one will be heard. Not saying this a big huge issue for the public but it is for the people involved so I get it. If the allegations are true, then this case contains multiple serious charges for multiple people and youtube themselves may have to get involved as well. There is probably tons of money involved as it pertains to people's businesses and brands.
I find it super hypocritical everyone getting pissed at Tati for posting when she needed to lmao
And people wanted her to post. I don't know if they are two faced or plain stupid🤷🏻♀️
+ people saying it should've been handled privately??? like NO. shane and jeffree dont deserve to just...get away with the very big role they've played in all of this. this started publicly so it has to end publicly too
I just hope she follows through and takes those 2 turds to court... She may not have a lot of time with what's coming out on Joffrey and Shame. I really think Shame will be going to prison 🤷🏼♀️
RIGHT??? Women just can’t win.
Heather Maree I literally saw someone say that Tati was worse than Trisha as if Tati was the one who faked a mental illness and then yelled people giving them ptsd flashbacks when she “clapped back”. Tatis video was not an apology, who she needed to apologize to she already did. TWICE. I don’t know why people think they are entitled to an apology from her as if she somehow hurt them. I’m seriously concerned if she’s gonna be alright mentally after reading the toxic comments on there.
So Trisha has an issue with Tati being a mentor/friend to James Charles, but doesn’t have an issue with Shane and Jeffree (grown adults in their 30s) having weird vendettas against James?
@Sincerelyshatha A Theyre both over that situation now (Tati and James). She's def over the supplement thing.
Sincerelyshatha A for gods sake can y’all stop making it about the fuckin vitamins? How about we make it about the fact that Shane and Jeffree pressured/manipulated Tati into making a video so that they could sell MAKEUP? Real nice double standard people have here. J Star wanted his competition gone.
@Sincerelyshatha A what are u even on about? Jeffree wanted james out of the way so he could be the top beauty guru, with the most subscribers and viewers. That is not hard to comprehend
They’re 3 peas in a pods cause she has the same problem but with david dobrik
Trisha is only doing that to defend Shane. One question why aren't we going after no eyebrows freak Jeffrey star isn't he the snake of UA-cam?
Shane dawson: i’M aN eMpaTh!!!
Also Shane when Tati says she is a victim of sexual assault:
*rolls eyes* YOURE SO MANIPULATIVE. I WAS MOLESTED!!! YOURE FAKE CRYING. SHES FAKE CRYING!!!1!
@Luke C I think that my friend is an empath and she loves horror movies even though she is later scared to go to the bathroom, lmao.
I think that he is just attracted to human struggle and pain but only cares about short-term fixes. That's why he doesn't check up on people afterwars.
If someone has to constantly tell everyone they are an empath, they are usually *not an empath.*
He‘s not an empath at all. As an actual empath this hurts. He only says this to seem like s good person. Being an empath is hard because you feel the energy of everyone around you very hardly so an empath would never do those things
I think they said it like that because empaths feel the emotions and energies of people really strongly, so seeing people die could be hard, even though I don’t think thats an actual thing because they’re actors.I don‘t like horror movies because the energy makes me feel uncomfortable but yeah lol
@Luke C exactly right 👏👏👏
Trisha is the LAST person who should be talking about accountability tbh
She already explained everything, and she talked about comments like yours too and surprisingly made a lot of sense, watch it at least before commenting
@@user-gi9qv2se3e Shes too toxic so I'll pass.
@@user-gi9qv2se3e shes still the last person to talk tf. That shit dont change anything.
z b how can you compare a murder to what trisha did, like wtf
Ok but yall belive tati without any proof, okay
What annoyed me is how Shane played the “my shit is worse than urs” card as a valid point in his eyes. Everyone hurts. Everyone struggles. Everyone battles something. If he was actually molested as a child that is awful but to use it against Tati as a means to say she’s not as valid in her reasoning bc he was abused too? That’s fucking wrong man. Abuse doesn’t play favorites and no ones abuse is worse than anyone else’s. It’s all bad. And it all affects people in such different but valid ways. Shane had the energy of “a bad childhood made me say racist things” a few days ago and expected everyone to understand that. But when Tati says “I was sexually assaulted which is why i was extremely affected by this information” and it’s all of a sudden manipulative in Shane’s eyes? Come on dude. Fuck off and make it make sense
Shane's "a bad childhood made me say racist things" reminds me of Jeffree's excuse of "i used the n word as a comeback to being called f*ggot"
I don't think he was molested because someone found an excerpt from one of his books saying how 'beautiful' he was as a child and how he was 'offended' that he wasn't molested which is truly awful in itself and if the excerpt is real (i can't confirm because I can't find it again :/ ) he literally lied about being molested for sympathy or to make himself feel better. he's honestly a joke.
*lucy* YES I REMEMBER READING SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!! i was so disgusted and i put the book down and regretted ever buying it
@@lucy-je1ib YES! I came here to say this.
@@lucy-je1ib That's literally from an old episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia lol. Maybe he's a fan.
You know jefferee is cancelled when Trisha said “I’m no longer a fan of Jefferee star”
She's still a coward though. She defended him, now she's claiming she felt bad and cried. Like make up your mind sis
Mf is a coward tho lol
Timothy Trisha is a troll, she literally built her career on being a troll. I hate her but the bitch is iconic
@@josephgouri2959 I think her troll status has depleted. People are now calling her out with her trolling. Also they stopped buying into her hypocrisy (those rare days when she wants to be serious) She's also lost some subs
@@timothy2491 i also feel like the vocabulary she uses in those "serious" videos is just what she gathered from opinions on twitter or yt. None of the ideas and points she makes comes from her.
It bothers me that people put Tati in the same category as Shane and Jeffree. I don’t think she’s blameless or perfect but they are absolutely not on the same level lol
EDIT: just want to clarify I’m not excusing Tati’s wrong doings, like I said she’s not blameless but I was just making an observation from the comments and posts I’ve seen on twitter and Reddit that people say she’s just as bad as the other two.
This 👆
EXACTLY
Yup totally agree
yep!!! dramageddon was literally the first time she was caught up in a major scandal. whereas for shane and jeffree scandals are second nature at this point looool. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!!!!
She's a woman. Hell I've seen comments that said she was worst than both of them and I'm over here like really?! REALLY?!
Can we just talk about this:
When Shane does something, his fans are like: he's just so naive and easily manipulated, it's not his fault. Yet, with Tati everyone is like: she is a grown woman and should be able to make her own decisions. Like?? They are basically the same age.
It really hurts to see those type of comments on Tati's video.
Isn’t Shane like 30 and Tati like 45
Oh my God, you are right,I never thought about that. I don't like to act like a SJW or feminist or something, but there is a clear bias on YT when it comes to accepting apologies from men and women. I don't understand why that is, like Jaclyn Hill did mess up big time with those lipsticks, but yet she is dragged far more on YT and Twitter than J* is. And this man did far worster things.
it's misogyny and sexism at it's finest
@@onepiecestudio1797 To be fair, Jeffree Star actually uploads content that engages with his audience while Jaclyn makes glorified advertisements before leaving in the next couple of months. If people feel more connected to you, they are more likely to defend you.
So while sexism probably does play a part, Jaclyn doesn't really have such a devoted following like Jeffree Star does. Which is unfortunate since a thousand Jaclyns is better than one Jeffree :/
When I was a child the man who molested me for years introduced me to Shane, introduced the concept of sexualizing children as a joke and something people don't take seriously, then victimized me for years. His content damaged real people. Sorry if a story about him buying an iPad doesn't exactly warm my heart.
Omg. That is...horrible. There are no words to describe it. Jesus. This really shows how making something serious a joke can hurt people. I really hope you are ok now and that son of a bitch is is rotting.
That is disturbing and horrible! I'm so so sorry that happened to you. You are exactly right, good deeds do not cancel out the damage his content has done to others!
i'm so sorry, i hope you've been holding up especially with the whirlwind going on right now.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I also am a victim of s*xual as*ault and I feel for you. Please know you’re not alone
“I don’t wanna say mean things about people”
*proceeds to mock her SA and act like someone who just got caught cheating on their SO*
he also shit talked james charles...
he's trying so hard to keep up his "I'm an empath" act lkfkejcjejd
Tati: James is like my son, we have mentor/mentee relationship.
Trisha: oMg TaTi iS a PrEdAtOr!!
Shane: Calls a 6 year old sexy, tells 12 year olds to twerk and to do inappropriate things with cocktail weenies, tells another underage girl to twerk and take it off, does inappropriate shit in front of a Willow Smith poster
Trisha: ......
Like I'm not too familiar with Trisha except for the content I see of her from Angelika's channel but from what I have seen I wouldn't trust Trisha.
DaBootifulMustache Queen in the tweet Angelina stated in the video lol
DaBootifulMustache Queen or do you mean the Tati thing because she said that in her BYE SISTER video last year if you wanna go watch some videos about that
Trisha has always been a huge hypocrite and career troll. I’m surprised people still give her a following
Shane said in a podcast that he doesn’t understand why someone getting off to a picture of a naked baby would be considered pedophilia. He compared pedophilia to a foot fetish.
See the video by itzkeisha speaking on the Smith Family’s response to Shane for reference.
trisha: “i got five midroll ads during tati’s video!! she’s so greedy omg!!”
like did she watch the last 10 minutes of the video where tati said all the proceeds will be going directly to a charity she’s supported for years...???
Brianna Laya THIS!! like yea Trisha might of said that, but what she said in the video was some facts and she had some valid points. I love the way this person just straight up forgets all of that and focuses on ONE wrong thing Trisha might of missed.
Krystal Gleen quick question sis, which of Trish’s alter was speaking this fact?🙄 I don’t listen to delusional people. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
Matilda Nkanga Girl they can’t tell you. These two have been under every comment trying to shit on Tati and co-signing both the misogyny and the blatant victim blaming. It’s insane. The fact that they talk about how TRISHA is credible.... but have said multiple times how they just can’t trust Tati, a woman who’s been on the platform for over a decade and has only had drama this past year... stop. The second hand embarrassment from them is unreal.
Brianna Laya girl stop. It’s not cute. Don’t talk about how we need to stop looking at Trisha’s past, when in that case we need to stop looking at Tati’s past of drama.... which has extend back to about a year now, whilst Trishas has been going about 6 years strong now.
Brianna Laya sis, watch Tati’s video. She said she apologized to James Charles and he FORGAVE her. If her apology was good enough for James, I don’t understand why you’re pissed on his behalf. You’re oh so quick to believe Trish, who bullied Disassociadid, trash talked about them, made a video mimicking and insulting them which made Nin and the alters have a suicide attempt. They aren’t back on social media yet cause they’re still healing. Trish never apologized, but yeah Tati is the bad guy yeah? Cool.
I think that the timing of when Shane ended the live stream should be talked about more. He ended it just before Tati referenced his comments made after she mentioned her concerns for James' safety. I think his timing is proof he said those things as why did he look so scared and act like he knew what was coming before he even heard it? Surely if it was false he would have waited to see what he apparently said rather than ending it quickly before Tati referenced his disgusting comments. His live stream just adds more credibility to Tati's video and did him no favours.
Exactly!
yes! i noticed that too. I think it clicked what she was going to talk about and he exited the live immediately. The live was SO close to hearing her say that shane didn’t care that james was suicidal, i really don’t think it was a coincidence
agree. no one who’s innocent reacts that way
I realised exactly that after first watch and wondered if anyone else noticed it too.
I think that he said whatever Tati claim. He didn't appeared shocked with what she was saying, just livid. You would expect that he would at least be taken aback by what she is telling since they are watching it for he first time but he was only livid. Just like he was when people where giving him feedback on his "movie" all those years ago.
shane rolled his eyes and was about to say “shut up” when tati talks about being a victim of abuse.
i’m waiting for more info on the rest, but i’m done with rumpelstiltskin.
Rumpelstiltskin I-
demi m jones don’t insult hobgoblins too we just don’t understand them just give them a chance... Shane is a monster.
Dominic R this is disrespectful to monsters. They don’t deserve this type of treatment. He is a demon.
@@CatsandConspiracies don't come for demons like that they did nothing. He is a snake
@@SA-nj8ikSnakes are beautiful animals. Shane is more akin to a cockroach.
Where is Jeremiah in this entire situation? I'm not excusing Shane's actions but Voldemort shoved shane into it to clear himself of the backlash and now he is silent.
Jeremiah Starfish is visiting his 110, 103, 104 year old grandmother!!
@@nokvula630 omg sorry I forgot!my bad ❤
He's out buying a new car lmao
He used pushed Shane under the bus as a distraction so he could sneak out the back unnoticed and really thought no one noticed🙄🙄
He bought a car from another youtuber
The fly is sent by Jefree Star.
Lmao
💀💀💀 it’s his spy drone
Sis doesn’t even realise she’s been bugged 🤦🏼♀️
@@bird.of.my.tongue amazing pun
And it is spying on her 🤭
Tati literally said she knows this might be the end of her career and she still posted this video. This woman has been on UA-cam for ten years and just minded her business. Sigh
She didn’t mind her business tho. Nobody was talking about her but she decieded to blame her actions last year on Jeffrey and Shane instead of just holding herself accountable and keep it pushing. If you really want to hold yourself accountable as an adult, you don’t have to explain anything just apologize. That’s it.
Varldine Sss thank you for finally speaking the truth
Varldine Sss she apologized and James forgave her. People are still not putting blame where it’s due.
Do you NOT realize how Shane and jeffree backed her into a corner? They literally used this woman’s sexual assault against her so that she would make that video for them. That is textbook manipulation. Yeah Tati could’ve made some wiser choices, and she is not totally innocent, but also let’s look at the REAL puppet masters behind this: Shane and Jeffree. If your unwilling to forgive someone for one mistake it’s shitty because we all make them and I think she owned up to what she did. She DID have to explain because people were demanding that she do so, and she also apologized to James way before she even made this video and they made up. She has every right to expose Shane and jeffree because people need to see how problematic they both are and they need to stop getting away with shit.
@@ES-ix6ll "They literally used this woman’s sexual assault against her" what? Do you have some proof, because she didn't say that.
@@varldinesss26 where have you been people have been wanting her speak up for awhile. Since Cam and Ashley Kyle came out.
shane screaming that shes “fake crying” and rolling his eyes when she says she was abused ... psychopathic
But he's an empath(!!!) 🙄🙄🙄
And then in the same breath him saying he was abused. Like wtf. If u don't want her to bring it up then u shouldn't bring it up either sis!
That’s the part that REALLY finished me with Shane. Not that I was really ok with him before..but that was so low and awfu
Who cares
if it was shane he would say sociopathic
james literally forgave her and wanted to be in her video, why are people so pressed about her apology when clearly james isn’t i-
You read my mind.. . I said that too..👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
And Jackie Aina has forgiven her
and the best part is that it was resolved privately and for formality’s sake now she’s apologizing publicly
Because all people are interested in nowadays is cancelling people. They don’t care if someone has changed, if someone makes a mistake they’re done for. It’s sad and fucked up especially bc I really like Tati tbh and I think she learned her lesson. It’s really sickening to see so many people still sending her hate and harassing her, while Shane and Jeffree continue to get away with murder 🙃 no one is ever interested in holding them accountable
i think it’s great that her and james are fine but i don’t want to support her anymore lol. like it was not my apology to accept i get that, but like i can keep disliking her based on her constantly shifting blame and other shitty behavior. also make no mistake i also dislike shane and jeffree
Why do people be like “oh she’s over forty” !!!! Lmao is there an age where you stop having feelings ????
Deadass you don't have to believe her but can we please stop acting like older people can't be victims? Thanks (also she's only 38, people are trying so hard to exaggerate her age to discredit her)
Monochrome Bunni amen sis, using her age to discredit her is questionable, like if that’s your only argument, ok I guess
She’s 38 😂 she’s not even 40! But as if it even matters 😐
Alli B. I know, I was quoting people who over age her to discredit what she’s feeling even more.
Vanishingdays obviously she still has feelings. But she still ain’t innocent.
Lmaooooo the little smile Angelika has after she copies Shane "She is literally... UGH"
Yess she’s so cute
Time stamp please :)
@@onyi7713 1:58
I’m whipped tbh 💀
Saw ur comment as she did it 😩🥺🥺 that was so cute!
When Shane says “you’re fake crying” he sounds so desperate. Like you can hear him trying to convince himself but it’s not working.
To be fair, she was fake crying lol. I trust nobody at this point
She was💀
Whether she was crying or not, the fact remains that she only speaks facts
@@sakaylawilliams3626 she wasnt. Ive been a subscriber for years and she ugly cries when shes talking about her health. Her tears were real.
It definitely looked like real crying to me. I don’t know what people wanted it to look like?
There is so much misogyny in the constant “this 40 year old woman!” etc.
Also an ageist remark, being 40 doesn’t make you the wisest person who doesn’t get involved in drama lol
@@SO-vw8nx he also forgets he's literally a nearly 32 year-old man
Totally!! What about the fact that they are all grown ass men INSERTING THEMSELVES in all this!
Like they are all in their 20s and younger like bro you are not that far behind
And it's not like Shane is a 19 year old. Shane is in his thirties and Lord Voldemort is 34 (I think?), so I don't know why he acts that way.
I'm happy James hasn't gotten involved yet even though everyone is talking about him. That shows so much growth! And the fact he has moved on and forgave Tati is amazing too :)
I agree, he seems to have acted very mature and diplomatic a year ago. wow! at such young age!
That is amazing. I just do not think he should ever trust her as much as he did before again. For someone to back stab you like that the way Tati did James is on another level.
He forgave it so he can forget it and move on. I’m sure he wants nothing to do with TW’s old raggedy ass. And he is smart not to speak on SD and JS. He needs to do him and make his videos.
Veronika Pisareva Periodt sis
@@hanaboo101 Are you stupid? He wanted to do the video with her.
Trisha clearly didn’t watch the whole video lol all ad money goes to charity. And the fact the she’s trying to make James and Tati’s relationship seem inappropriate is literally insane. They were both in the makeup industry also she was like another mom to him.
Say it louder for the people in the back!
She literally just watches around her, sees what a "hot topic" even if they are serious issues and goes "that will be my personality/argument" today and starts accusing whoever she has a problem with that week
Agree!!!
She needs the drama for her dying chanel IMO
Everyone see to miss the point that Tati donate the money from that video. U don’t even have to watch the video it literally on the description box
tati: 🥺
“as a victim of abuse myself.”
shane: 🙄
“ShUuuUuU”
🤬
“Oh My gOd YOuRe sO mAniPuLaTiVe!!!”
i seriously dont know how he just got away with that???
But whenever he apologizes its always "mY aNxiEtY"
😂😂Litarelly
Pot calling kettle. Shane is canceled.
Lol it’s what he does smh, like just look at his “apology” video. what a sad sad man
He’s literally Trisha’s only friend OF COURSE she’s going to defend him
Trash attracts trash
According to Peter Monn hes not even her friend either
She never defended him. She called him out for the shit he did.
she didn't defend him. She made it clear that she would not turn her back on him, but she was very clear she was not down with what he said
Primink is trisha’s friend, or at least her lawyer.
people would be allowed to “dislike” her public apology if she owned an apology to the general public, but since she only owned james an apology ya’ll really don’t have a thing to say cause it’s not your apology to take
woahh sis this exactly tho. Why are people acting like Tati wronged them? She didn’t, and she apologized to the person that she wronged behind closed doors. So all this bs about how her apology wasn’t good enough, like sis, that’s not even your place to judge? Stay mad I guess 🤷🏽♀️
Smokey glow did a cool video on this and she brought up how JCharles situation broke “social blade” and that there was a big ripple effect. I thought it was an intersting point of view 🤓
That’s not the point. It’s that her apology wasn’t an apology. She shifted blame on everyone else except for herself and backtracked on all of the accusations she made against James Charles. She didn’t make the apology video to give him an apology. She made it to paint herself as a victim and “woe is me” then moved the attention from herself onto Shane and Jefree. She’s a manipulator. People don’t only care about the apology, they see through Tati’s lies and manipulation.
I have literally only just realised that will and Jada named their kids after them 😂 it has never occurred to me before
I just figured it out two days ago ngl, I feel so dumb
Omg .... 😂😂😂😂
Except for Trey haha. Everyone forgets about Trey Smith
TheSlurpy11 yeah but he’s from a different marriage so it’s not the same
TheSlurpy11 also his first name is actually Willard, he just goes by trey
Shane’s friends: “Who asked for this?!!!”
Literally everyone: “🙋🏼♀️ US”
Truth
His fans went onto her channel and filled the comments with hate basically acting like it came out of nowhere and wasn't wanted, which was so confusing until I realized Shane went on live
IKR like i wanted the video a lot of ppl were kinda demanding an explanation from her
Honestly where’s Jebriel starfish at? Bet he’s chillin in his mansion and watching the world burn.
Jebriel that’s a new one 😂
how much would you bet he comes out of this scratch free AGAIN, unless of course Tati really pursues legal action
He’s buying a new car 😂 someone literally posted a video of it
Rageshree Chatterjee let’s hope she’s gonna sue jarjar
Probably jumping into money Scrooge McDuck style and cackling about Shane being canceled because people are now so invested in this that he'll probably come out of this as "successful" as before
Everyone: Tati, people are dying.
But if Tati would have made her first new video about the pandemic...
Everyone would be like: Yeah okay, Tati, WE KNOW, but what about your drama with Jeffree and Shane? 👀
THIS RIGHT HERE ^^^^
So true
This is the most accurate comment I've seen about this whole thing!
i know this has been talked about a lot but you’re not an ‘empath’ if someone starts tearing up about their sexual abuse and your first reaction is to roll your eyes and say “shut up”
yeah like he doesnt have a shred of empathy how is he supposed to be an empath lmao
Thea the people he feels ‘empathy’ for are jake paul and jeffree star..... powerful, rich men with a history of mistreating people and bigotry.... make it make sense
The thing that sold it for me was that he tweeted about how much he loved her and watched her videos to fall asleep. If that was true, I would have expected shock and upset at accusations, not anger. If they weren't true. 🤔
People react different and show emotions in different ways tho, that doesn't prove anything. (I'm not defending him btw, they are equally guilty)
That's what I notice too. I recently watched the behind the scenes of his "movie." He was just as livid and angry as when people were trying to give him constructive criticism and he was furious that people didn't want to play his offensive characters. He was also that angry when the site with his Jeffree make up collab was falling. So it seem that this Shane comes out wheneber things don't go the way he planned them to go.
His reaction looked like SHOCK surprise AND disappointment to me. Im actually confused as to why people think this looks like anything else. LOL people will be back.
YES
Or the fact that he got so angry about Tati, but shows NO emotion about Jayden, Jada, and Will Smith literally ending any possibility of him having a career in Hollywood.
When Shane stops himself from presumably calling Tati another name and says “I don’t want to say mean things about people” its basically him saying “I don’t want to show even more of my true colours.” but he’s trying to come of as a nice person, like he never says mean things lmao.
I don't want to say mean things abt people, not because I don't mean it but because then you won't make me rich waa
But then calls her manipulative and in his damn dissertation he called the whole beauty community a whole bunch of names like Sir what?
He won't say it but he will think it.
The same thing he is doing with his questionable jokes.
Illusion of Quality - Yuup, those kind of “jokes” always have a ring of truth to them.
Fr he makes me want to vomit I wan te to laugh but his creepy breakdowns remind me of abusive people I'd rather see what's up with tati
I've been watching Tati for almost six years and before all that she literally had ZERO "drama" surrounding her. She has always been true to herself, credible and trustworthy even in her makeup reviews. Let's not pretend that we don't know how toxic relationships work and age has nothing to do with it. I find it extremely offensive and misogynistic to discredit her like that. Why people (especially white males) use age as an insult? It makes me incredibly sad to read all those nasty comments under her video, she made a mistake, owned up to it and apologized to the person she hurt. But how would you act if someone used you for more money and power? Wouldn't you make a video trying to defend yourself and speak up? I swear people are such hypocrites and forget that people on the internet are also just people. With FEELINGS and a LIFE. She just wanted hers back. So thank you Angelika for speaking your mind, I find your videos and your comment section to be a ray of light.
Christini totally agree!
Apologizing isn’t shifting the blame 10 seconds later, just saying. She has no accountability whatsoever, and she put herself as the victim of this whole thing even tho the real victim was James. Let’s not be so gullible like we were last time we decided to take her word without a single receipt🙄 she’s no saint. All 3 of them should face the consequences for what they did.
Your extremely correct about all of this and I couldn’t have said it better myself. People are trashing her so hard, it’s really sad. Just like you said, her reputation was very
solid for many years, where as jeffree and Shane have ALWAYS had bad reps and yet people still support them and give them free passes no matter what shit they pull. It’s unfair and very sad to see. Also, I’m done with people commenting shit about her not taking accountability or her apology not being good enough. News flash to those people: TATIS APOLOGY IS NOT YOURS TO ACCEPT IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT WAS JAMES AND HE ACCEPTED IT. MOVE ON, and ffs stop holding so much hatred in yourself for someone you don’t even know and someone who doesn’t owe you shit.
Watch other people's videos about tati she isn't innocent, she has tried to sue smaller UA-camr she just keeps her stuff behind the scenes. She just as greedy and manipulative as the others. Innocence is part of her brand not who she really os
It’s not blaming someone else
Also, Tati’s past trauma caused an overreaction to assault rumors about James. Shane’s trauma “caused” him to make pedophile jokes. Her reaction from her trauma is valid. His isn’t
Shane addressed Tati so quickly because he knows that he'll just loose if he goes against Will Smith's family, who has more influence than him.
I'm actually wondering if the Pinkett-Smith family had approached UA-cam about Shane's demonetization. They would be one of the only "UA-camrs" that could make UA-cam exec's do something.
Shane is honestly fucked, he has to stop trying to use excuses and just own up to everything nd go off youtube
Yall wanna talk about tati being older than james but were gonna ignore shane and tana being friends? double standards, we love to see them.
Also what confuses me is that she was a mentor figure to james... Often mentors are older... I dont understand the outrage... It makes it seems as if she had other motives to befriend james... When clearly there wasnt. She was just helping him out and being there for him. Why is that a crime...?
@@22Maggy22 smells like sexism to me
Tati ain’t innocent. Forget her age then. SHE CHOSE TO MAKE A 40 MINUTE VIDEO, EDIT THAT VIDEO, AND UPLOAD IT! now she’s doing the same thing to jebidah starfish and slug (i don’t shower) doorknob, with literally NO PROOF! i don’t trust ANY OF THEM! none of them are innocent!
Exactly. Tati was/is apparently like a maternal figure to James. And didn't Shane and Tana make out in a video or something? Or am I making that up?
@@krystalgleen1662 um nobody said Tati is innocent
You quick chat on ageing women was so on point, it's a massive issue that I feel a lot of people just ignore!
When women age they've 'let themselves go', but when men do they've 'worked hard' and are 'silver foxes'
how much you want to bet jeffrees only response will be, " everyone is lying, I have receipts" and then never brings it up again.
sounds like jeremiah starfish lmao
“I have dirt on all of you “🤡🤡
No no. Hell make another documentary where he hints that he will spill everything but at the end its just another makeup launch
No I think that actually all of them are lying and manipulative one way or the other and that we should stop supporting all 3 of them. I never supported any of them really but now I will definitely avoid every video from any of their channels. All i see from them is money hungry back stabbing middle age people 🤷♂️
@@TheStefanmiletic Tati can't lie now that there's lawyers involved and she's building a case
If you listen closely, when Shane rolled his eyes, he seems to almost say "oh shut up" but stops himself. The audacity.
You don’t need to listen closely. He very clearly says it. I think going live was the dumbest thing he could’ve done
@@cokedupgirlscout that's true. Some people were speculating that he was going to say something else, but "shut up" is the most plausible.
It's interesting because Ryland's tweet about how Tati says she's fine doing it all on her own proves that her and Shane did discuss it and she declined his help, which is exactly what she said in the video lmao
Also, the part when he wrote that "Shane would have made video on James if he felt to inclined." Is possible predator getting away with abusing people not good enough "inclination" for Shane to prevent further victims? They really are worth each other.
I was thinking the same thing. I wish someone big would bring up this point!
May I know why Tati's age is being brought up so much?! But Trisha's, Shane's or Jeffree's age is not? What is this?
Misogyny
Trisha said her own age as much as she said Tatis sooo
literally everyone is talking about J. S. age. how You didnt see that idk
i think people bring up all their ages, like all of them are full ass adults and they’ve created so much unnecessary drama, if tati is right then they basically did some burn book level shit or if tatis lying its her trying to salvage her reputation after spreading harmful lies about a kid
I think also bc she kept saying she was manipulated to post those videos & stuff and when your almost 40 you can definitely make decisions for yourself
when i first started therapy and was trying to recover after my abuse, i was talking about how i have these strong reactions and strong emotions when i heard/saw/thought of any of my triggers. my therapist told me a quote that i think is very relevant in this whole situation. she said "if it's hysterical, it's historic" and i think everyone needs to keep that in mind. the second tati mentioned she was a victim of sexual assault herself, everything made so much more sense. was saying all of those allegations about james inappropriate, especially considering she didnt provide evidence? yes. but i think, in her mind, her reaction was rational. the information she was given triggered her. she was just told by two people that she trusted that another person she trusted was doing the same terrible thing that had happened to her. i think it absolutely makes sense as to why she "overreacted". and, though that doesnt excuse her from taking accountability, i think that's an important factor to acknowledge when trying to argue that "she's a grown woman. she should have known better. why did she believe them?" if you were assaulted and one of your closest friends told you that someone else you trust is assaulting other people, you'd do whatever it took to try to spare someone else from going through what you did. this is totally just my opinion and simply based on my own experience, but i do think it's an interesting point that should be considered.
And her comment section is full of people either dismissing her, calling her terrible things and names, and people praising Trisha for “speaking facts”
@@DoodleDoo2 meanwhile trishas literally never adknowledge a fact in her life...
And people basically saying that her issues don't matter and that "there are bigger issues like BLM!" "While all your petty drama is going on Brionna Taylor's murderer still isn't arrested 🙄 " while she's talking about her abuse and how she was manipulated and basically got her career destroyed + warning everyone about Shane and Jeffree who've done horrid things because some people don't know whether to trust and support jefree and Shane. Those men have done so much harm to people and Tati is giving insight on the situation, which could prevent more harm to people and less people to support bad people, and everyone's just dismissing her and bringing up a different issue like she's allowed to talk about her own issues too.
Honestly Tati’s video comment is making me sad. Calling her this and that, completely ignoring what she meant and take her point in the wrong way or out of context. I’m neutral though bc of last year I choose the wrong side in 2019 and now I want to see from every side first. But seeing how people immediately disregard Tati’s statement and then a lot of people believing/agreeing Trisha is like, have we learned nothing? Also Trisha is the embodiment of a liar, if anything I wouldn’t believe Trisha more than Tati.
@@bebeliveshere5950 Maybe she did eventually, she doesn't seem entirely stupid, but she got a lot of things wrong in her response and people are going "yas! She is the only one making sense!" because it aligns with their own knee jerk reaction to defend Shane while attacking Westbroock and putting a bit of responsibility on Star.
Here's my two cents: Shane went into survival mode and since being so "genuine and real" is what has kept him on people's good side, he made a live of his reactions trying to say the "right things" to try to stop people switching to Tati's side. And obviously Trisha will defend Shane. he's one of the few UA-camrs willing to be friends with her. James Charles forgave her and is backing her up on this. That needs to mean something. He was suicidal because of this. He could have just forgave her and move on for his mental health. But backing her up? it's because there needs to be some true on Tati's story.
James is probably as angry about the situation as Tati was. They suffered emotionally the most in the whole things so it's natural that they have a grudge. I think that Tati has more of an issue with Shane while James has an axe to grind with Jeffree.
I’m really glad that there’s at least one person who’s taking time to truly analyze this. I’ve seen so many comments just using Trisha’s vid to bash Tati without actually considering the credibility of both and who truly is the mastermind in all of this
Personally I think that Tati saw James doing inapropariet (spelling? english is not my first language, sorry) things like jokes, talking very sexual on videos, talking about straight guys,...
J* and SD feed her with storys about victims bc they knew that SA is a teiggering topic for her.
And when the whole Vitamin thing came she felt betrayed and she was right that was not a good move to promote sleeping gummis to a jung audience. I think all of that together made her see things way worse than what they really were.
There friendship was in a bad state at that moment and she just reacted emotional and made that video. She should not have done that! But I can see maybe why she did it and James forgave her. That is good enough for me.
J* and SD were not emotional involved - they wanted the drama for $$$.
I hope that makes sense. Again sorry for my bad english!
Cornelia goes_to_hogwarts yeah, Tati said that the vitamin thing was the last drop on a long list of things, and J* and SD just feed that anger and suggested the video as the “only alternative” to make JC understand. Not excusing Tati but it sounds believable.
Illusion of Quality yeah... SD make her believe they were friends and they even filmed a colab that never went out, so the story of Tati of SD dropping her after the Bye Sister makes sense. It would explain why they stopped being friends and the collab never saw the light 👀 Tati said they compared messages and realized they had lied to Tati so yikes.
Shane claims he was m*lested, but in his book "I Hate My Selfie" he says he's surprised he wasn't m*lested
Ugh who the fuck says something like that. Makes me sick.
didnt be even say that he was “offended” that he wasn’t molested? 🤢
I mean he could have lied in the book. Like allot of people don't tell the truth about abuse for good reasons so I'm not doubting him on that. Let's believe survivors even ABSOLUTE TRASH survivors like Shane. Okay off my podium
@@sleepyhermit5758 or he could be lying now to try and one up Tati. If he was going to lie about it why even write about it in the book? That doesn't make any sense. He's showing y'all his true colors and believing everybody without thinking critically is exactly how Bye Sister nearly ruined James life. Even if it is true he didn't say it to share his truth, to expose his abuser, or help anyone he did it to try and win pissing contest agai st Tati of who's trauma is worse and to try and invalidate her trauma.
@@sleepyhermit5758 exactly. Many individuals lie about it. Like in his book, doesn't he also say he is straight when he is actually bi? If that's true then he just wants to hide that he got molested n stuff
Shane even said in his book 'I Hate Myselfie' that he has never been molested as a child and was 'offended' that he wasn't. So there is potential that he was lying in his livestream to manipulate everyone, the IRONY
That’s disgusting and so horrible when there are so many victims of molestation... that live really shows his true colors
But i remember him saying in his videos that he was. Idk he could be in denial or something. Not trying to defend him but unless he clears everything up there is no reason to jump into conclusions
The book most likely was a joke
@@guardedheart7855 but joking about molestation isn't funny because it's a serious thing.
“Men and women are treated differently in this space” IT’S SO TRUE. It’s so true and I absolutely hate it
Women are basically conditioned to take each other down. Fucking patriarchy. Whenever there is a man who fucks up it’s brushed under the rug. But when a women does it it’s instant cancellation. Without even looking into it. On behalf of my gender I’m sorry if I have ever contributed to this issue. I’m sorry I was ever blind to this. I’m sorry
👏🏻
Watching Shane's IG live felt like an SNL skit of Onision losing his shit - it's just not funny in the slightest, eerily scary
Dude I thought of the same thing
It’s giving me very creepy vibes. I watched most of onision’s videos when he was basically goign crazy and it just rubbed me the wrong way the same way the live did. Running around, yelling, can’t even speak, etc. They both knew/know they were/are guilty and it shows by how they have no important insight and things to say about how they could be innocent. Insane.
They're just two incredibly messed up peas in a pod.
They were both really close friends in the past
@@cbu2666 the irony that onision warned us he was pedophile years ago, and then turned into an alleged sexual assaulter himself. The statistics of UA-cam pedophiles/sexual assaulters must be well off the deep end these days.
Also, him being all like: “aNoThER aD?!”
I’m like, uh, yeah. Did he miss the beginning of the video when Tati said all proceeds were going to charity? Guess so - you miss details when you’re having conniptions, Shane 🙄
Annie it’s funny that while trying to make Tati look like a shitty person, he made himself look like someone who doesn’t like charity
Yeah! And Trisha literally said the same stupid thing about 5 midrolls omg I can't
She mentioned her brand several times, views means publicity, in a way it's an ad, because people will start buying her product to support her.
Eugenia Gabbiano that’s literally....anyone with a brand.
Sure a charity that could be given to support blm which she obviously doesn’t care about. This charity honestly looks like a religious cult lmao please visit the website.
Tati: He told me was an empath
The only path he is is *PATHETIC*
😂😂😂👏
There's pathetic. And also sociopath, psychopath, and pathological liar.
plot twist: no empath needs to say " I am an Empath"
Whenever I hear that I just think of Alizee's "uwu I'm an empath" description of Shane x)
You win comment of the day! 🤣
When shane said "I dont wanna say mean things about people"...THAT right there shows just how manipulative he is. He said nothing BUT mean things to the whole beauty community in his "apology" on Twitter, and now he acts like his such a good, kind, caring human being who doesn't want to say mean things to others?!?!. Literally when I heard that part in the video I cringed so hard. He's still playing the I'm an empath card and I'm over it
While rolling his eyes literally 3 seconds later when she talks about her sexual assault.
The thing that gets me about Trisha's "Tati and James" age tweet is like...does she know what a mother figure is??
Dude her friends have that same age gap lol sh@nes brought younger fans onto his channel and befriended them the same way Tati did with James Charles
No obviously 🤣🤣
Not to mention her bestie Shane's pedo shit
@@raccoon_socks03 Exactly....only that Shane used to joke about child molestation and pedophelia, so that makes it creepy.
Kabir Gupta James already got a mother and James was way more popular and had more followers then Tati. So to me is Tati was one who was trying to get closer to James to become more famous and get more subs. She just did it for the money lol
Shane’s reaction in his Instagram live and wanting “as many people as possible in here” to manipulate with his reaction caused him to show his whole chest with his involvement in this. The SWITCH in how he reacted in his “apology” and his live exposes him entirely
Yeah I think when he said that he was planning to go off on one until he realised he didnt know what to say, and then of course rylan told him to stop
I want someone to edit Shane's live stream but he's reacting to his own apology video
Ooo, great idea!!!
I will provide just give me a few hours
@@slugthug3583 did you do it?
Shane’s live was a disgusting mess, i dont know what was going through his head to do that and I can’t see him excusing himself out of that one
Probably gonna excuse his BAd ChIlDhOoD on this 🙃
This one was a big mistake. I know the difference when person is upset because someone is wrong about him and when someone is upset because they know they've fcked up 🙃 this is the latter
She basically accused him of manipulating het and orchestrating dramageddon 2. That is why she had panick attack. You would have it too if You were in his position.
He was in sheer panic mode realizing the pressure he put on Tati had backfired. I’m glad he’s being shown for being just as manipulative as Jeffree. Sad thing is, Jeffree isn’t even coming to defend him. I think
Shane got caught up in trying to be like Jeffrey and over the last few years became more of a skewed individual in JS’s shadow. And now he’s reaping what he’s sown. Karma always comes back around.
Tati went from "beating her face for the gods" to "manipulative, liar" real quick
You can tell he was about to say "shut up" when she said she was a victim of sexual abuse....then calls her a manipulator?? She literally has experience about the topic that James was falsely accused of, like, thats very relevant.....and then goes on to say I was molested as if he is the only one who has ever been sexually assaulted. He is literally saying the same thing as her why is it ok for him to bring up but not her
Also not to mention in his book he said he was never molested
The fact that he even was just about to tell someone saying they've been assaulted to "shut up" made me lose it. Even if it comes out Shane isn't "evil" what he was about to say was inexcusable and disgusting.
edit: also everything else he's said over the years. But the "shut up" from a recent video, from an "empath". Shane can fuck off with his bs.
I thought Tati’s apology was fine. She took accountability and that’s more than Shane can say.
I thought it was just as fake as Laura’s 😂😂😂 I could fake cry better not to excuse Shane and Jeffers behavior but she is the main one to blame unless they held a gun to her head and made her post it. First off she can’t say Shane a person she barely knew forced her to do anything especially if she cared about James that much I’m sorry but no one will make me talk shit about my friends especially if I’m so worried That they might take their life 🙄🙄🙄 she is a grown ass woman who was also jealous of a child
@@peggyrogers9088 but shane and jeffree are powerful men with manipulative pasts? Any age can be manipulated
I watched pewdiepie’s video on “ranking UA-cam apologies” again lmao. One thing that stood out to me was how youtubers liked to say “I take 100% responsibility and make no excuses” but makes excuse anyway lmao. Substance over form.
How if she put the blame on them? Tati is a grown woman and took the opinion of two people she barely knew more seriously than her friendship with James which was years long. She’s just as problematic because she really made a whole video dragging someone half her age over fucking gummies and started this a whole drama. They’re ALL toxic but everyone acts likes she’s a saint.
The thing is, the only person she needed to apologize to was James and since she's already done that and he's forgiven her, it really isn't our place to comment on it. I think her video was a public announcement sort of thing to tell everyone where her relationship with James is at.
I dont really trust Trisha but if even she doesn't like him then👀
Periodtt
@Mommy Dearest yes when you look at trisha's track record you clearly see that her biggest personality trait is shock value. Every damn video of her (even if i find them funny) are just to grab some views.
Trisha is right she put the blame on other people while she is a grown woman. She making herself the victim of all of this is the easiest way to try to get out
I was a shane stan and very hesitant to let someone so close to my heart go, but after that Instagram live I don't know how I could support that anymore. Literally the worse thing he could've done
As you should💅🏾✨💞
It really hurt to unfollow him but he is a terrible person.
I think realistically we've all been in a situation where somebody is lying about something you've done and you feel so helpless because nobody seems to believe you. I think his live was portraying him feeling enraged because someone was lying about him and trying to jump on the hate train and shift all the blame on him, without taking any accountability. I don't dismiss his action but I think instead of cold heartedly believing everything she says or he says we should take it with a pinch of salt. I believe people can grow and change and he has proven that with his recent content.
So the pedophilia and racism wasn’t enough??? You’re weird
@Majestic Kaneki yeah the fact that james who is drastically younger than them is acting more mature and appropriate than all of them jfc
People keep saying that he’s growing from his past but that live literally proves that he’s not.
Exactly! You can never grow up from pedophilia and saying disgusting things, he will never change
His "apology" didn't age well now, did it.
He's just gotten smarter about what he chooses to put on the internet.
in shanes book he stated that he was slightly offended that he was never m*lested. like bro what
Edit: never bought his book, it's just over twitter
Whaaaaaaaaa tf
thats what ive been saying!!! its in "I hate my selfie", but like, whats the truth dude?
That’s so stupid.... bieng molested is the most soul breaking thing ever
"-My eyelashes were litellary 3 inches long and made audible flapping sounds when I blinked. Like a fairy flying thro the clouds. I'm still shocked and slightly offended that I was never molested."
but also didnt he say that he was sexaully assaulted as a child, im confused
I'm kind of scared of Shane now. I can't believe I used to stan. Even if Tati is lying, I am kinda disappointed that this is how he handled it.
He seemed insane in that video. Like acary
Same here I loved Shane...now I just feel icky and gross
I was already disgusted enough from his racist and pedo jokes, now it's even worse. I feel like a horrible fucking person just for ever being a fan tbh
I used to look up to Shane so much it hurts to see that he is such a bad person in reality
It was definitely scary. But if there is a small chance Tati lied about some things, I would be furious as well. We will never know the truth.
It is so odd to me that Trisha of all people tried to imply that tati and James relationship is "inappropriate" because of their age gap. Like sis sit down, your entire career was built off of crying on the kitchen floor and hanging out with youngsters 😍💖
She literally sexualized Emma Watson when she was a child.. Sis she doesn't have room to talk
everyone saying “sHe’S a GRowN wOmaN, sHe MakEs hEr Own DecSioNs”,,,. please educate yourself on gaslighting!! it changes your perception of events and, ergo, you cannot make informed and rational decisions!!
not to MENTION that the topic of S/A is clearly something that hits a lot of emotions for her as a victim, of COURSE she wasn’t going to make a rational decision !!!!
She was also mad about James promoting her competition. So she had her own agenda. She wanted James to wake up and put down whatever he was doing.. so instead of calling him privately ...let’s make a video calling him out saying from her own experience he was trying to turn straight guys gay. People seem to forget all the shit she said and follow her like a sheep.
It happened to me when I was half her age but I can assure you it would still have happened to me if I was double her age. Age has nothing to do with this. Gaslighting is gaslighting.
george lopez but the point is she apologized to James and he ACCEPTED it he even desperately wanted to do the video with her, she said I’m so sorry numerous times in that video. I feel like if James has fully come out in support of her and all of the other people she has wronged have accepted her apology obviously she’s doing something right.
It’s like people forgot about cults lmao some victims of abuse are over 50. This ageism needs to fucking die. I hate this.
curlyemmm 123 yes but in her video, she’s basically saying I’m sorry James Charles, but really Jeffrey and Shane pushed me to do it. That’s not a real apology that’s a fake apology trying to pass blame and play victim card.
the way shane immediately rolled his eyes and called tati a "manipulator" and "liar" after she said she's been sexually abused.... so disgusting and insensitive. this dude genuinely doesn't have an ounce of empathy or self awareness in him. i'm glad youtube demonetized his channel- he does NOT deserve a career after everything he's done.
Because shes fake crying and reading a script. You don't just throw a mention of abuse into something like that. I don't know much about Tati, about if she was or wasn't abused, but either way thats not a very good place to put that.
TheKupaKeep420 it’s an absolutely relevant place to put it? A victim of sexual assault using it to explain (not justify or excuse) why they reacted what was in hindsight so blindly and at the drop of a hat to accusations of sexual assault to a person they cared about...makes perfect sense.
When men go grey, they're called "silver foxes", whereas women are encouraged to keep themselves young in any and every possible way or men will never want them *rolls eyes*
angelika is my woman crush wednesday..... calling out the misogyny in the beauty community constantly?? i’m DROOLING. ✨
Angelika is my woman crush everyday lmao 👏ICONIC👏POWERFUL👏QUEEN👏
Axel Inerys LITERALLY it’s so s*xy seeing a person state facts as ELOQUENT as her whilst she’s going off on someone
She shall rise and purge this community of the toxicity that plagues it then rise up and protect it from any further harm 😍
She is the only one who see and speak the things as they are
Yeah I think she is really admirable for her to admit her slight bias towards believing Tati but manage keep a level head throughout this situation. It’s nice to see how much she has improved in that aspect and it is something we can all learn from.
James needs to take Jeffree to Court and Sue him so everything he's worth he can sue for mental damages and false accusations that could lead to jail time
If they open a civil case (not a criminal case) I don’t think jail time can be a part of the punishment, I’m pretty sure it’s just for money. I might be wrong though!
Alyssa hardin you don’t know how court works do you?
@@HoneyPlumPaper I know I meant the accusations that were made against James could've lead to jail time and James could get a lot of money out of him
@@angel127_I know enough to know that if someone were to report what Jeffrees said about James sexually assulting someone to the police James could get arrested and if it's not true James could build a case off of it and get a huge settlement I'm actually surprised no one has sued Jeffree yet if tati does I really hope James does as well or adds to her lawsuit and gets a settlement as well
You sue for defamation meaning someone lied to ruin your reputation. But if those accusations turn out to be true then you can get in lots of trouble.
*if* Shane recovers from this I bet he will come out with a 9 part docu-series about what it’s like to be canceled.
but would yoi watch it?
Eminasaur no. Would you?
All I’m gonna say is this: Tati is handling this like an adult. Shane is reacting like a scared child not knowing how to react while Papa Jeffree is hiding trying to let Shane take the fall out.
talk about the fact that in his book he literally says he was never molested.... he made it up so he can play the victim. saw a quote on twitter from his book that he was describing how cute of a kid he was he was kind of offended he was never molested.
wtf?
He has joked about molestation and pedophilia so much that I think it’s a defense mechanism for what happened to him as a child. Survivors of abuse and molestation often do that, and even lie and say that never happened. I think he was abused.
Just because he wrote that in his book, doesn’t mean he wasn’t. I’m not saying he was or wasn’t because I don’t want to speculate. He is the only one that actually knows what happened.
Mrs Plainview look at his response video to being called a pedophile he says he was molested around the 7 minute mark
he’s talked about being molested multiple times in his podcast
I used to be a fan of Jeffree and Shane. I was the girl he gave the conspiracy palette to at the Cheesecake Factory, I’m disgusted I ever looked up to them. As a victim of sexual assault the way Shane acted when Tati said she was a victim disgusted me.
I need more people to read this comment.
I’ve seen so many people saying “omg another ad wtf she’s just trying to make money” was it a fever dream that she said she was donating all the Adsense to a charity?
Soo, did I catch it early enough because when I watched it there were no ads...? 🤨