Sharpening the Mizuno Tanrenjo Wa-Gyuto

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • hey everyone! today, we're gonna be sharpening the Mizuno Tanrenjo Wa-Gyuto chef knife. getting a knife sharp is one of my favorite things to do. hope you like it!

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  • @gjkdjdh
    @gjkdjdh 15 років тому +1

    ive been a slaughterman for 25 years and i use the same method .but only on one stone .yes it does work for me .great vid

  • @sicktrick33
    @sicktrick33 16 років тому

    Probably the best knife sharpening video on You Tube! Great stuff!! Cool sharpening music too!!!

  • @MrBillTroop73
    @MrBillTroop73 16 років тому

    This is the best knife sharpening video I have ever seen.
    Excellent!
    Bill

  • @openmindedproduction
    @openmindedproduction 16 років тому

    great video, finally a proper sharpening video on youtube. I wish I had all those variety of stones and a leather strop, gotta get myself a leather strop.
    one thing I recommend for everyone is to get a roll of rubberized anti slip pads from the dollar store. I use them everywhere, for under my cutting boards, under my sharpening stone, in my car, etc. They work great and yuu can get a whole roll for a buck.

  • @mibo747
    @mibo747 14 років тому

    Hi Eceipretsam! You've made very good job making this video. Because of that anybody can sharpen in professional way. All the best! Michael

  • @gs300blak
    @gs300blak 13 років тому

    Класс!Много способов заточки ножей видел-но такой в первые:но думаю что это один из многих и видимо что то в японском стиле.Но главное результат-и автору это удалось:)Спасибо за видео-очень поучительно,тоже буду пробовать этот метод:))

  • @lazichimp
    @lazichimp 16 років тому

    Great Job man!
    Best sharpening video on youtube!
    First video that actually shows how to sharpen a completely dull knife into a razor sharp one.
    What is that piece of metal that you used for flattening the stones?

  • @piccanninni
    @piccanninni 15 років тому

    Superb vid, great music, very well done. Thank you.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  16 років тому

    yes, i sharpen cleavers the same exact way. it's all about where the edge makes contact with the stone, nothing else matters. it's all about keeping the sharpening angle consistant.
    i always do flat grinds with micro bevel : )

  • @David-gld
    @David-gld Місяць тому +1

    I remember enjoying your sharpening vids 15 years ago. I learned a lot. Has your sharpening technique changed any over the years?

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  27 днів тому +1

      thank you so much! it's been sooo long since i've posted anything, and there are so many good sharpening/knife 'content creators' out there now!
      my sharpening technique hasn't changed in any big way, maybe just some efficiency items, but nothing really worth mentioning.
      thanks again so much for the comment! it really makes me happy to know people enjoyed my videos!

  • @cdioUSMC
    @cdioUSMC 14 років тому

    this was a really great video! not only did you show that you can get a rusty dull knife extremely sharp, but you also made it shine like a mirror and showed how to level out stones and what not. By the way, which of your diamond stones did you use to flatten the water stones? I am only asking since you didn't specify in your vid about which flattening stone you used and the 2nd diamond stone you used was not given credit. lol :b

  • @1ESTfanmovie
    @1ESTfanmovie 12 років тому

    I tried your technique, and now my knife´s are very very sharped.
    i don´t have your waterstone´s but no itsn´t than bad... jeje i´m sorry for my english, i talk spanish, :-) congratulations from URUGUAY...

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  16 років тому

    it doesn't even need to be any sort of special leather, just smooth leather. i started out just screwing the leather into a wooden block, but it works better and is flatter if you glue the leather on first, then screw.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  16 років тому

    first track:
    asuka sakai feat. ado mizumori - 'a crimson rose and a gin tonic'
    second track:
    hideki tobeta feat. yui asaka - 'katamaritaino'
    both are from a playstation video game called Katamari Damacy. i never played the game, but i liked the soundtrack : P

  • @RvaninaVpered
    @RvaninaVpered 15 років тому

    I ordered Naniwa #10000 stone, hope I'll touch it with my blades in two weeks. If I'll get some significant results I'll try to find tests to estimate blade sharpness.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  14 років тому

    @garrycation hmm, you can get a pretty decent set of stones for that price range. king stones are pretty affordable and they get the job done.
    as for left knives, since it IS a gyuto shape, you can sharpen it almost the same, but with the dominant bevel on the left side of the knife. you can always sharpen it 50/50. it wouldn't be a problem.

  • @garrycation
    @garrycation 14 років тому

    great video! i have a misono ux10 240 mm gyuto (lefty) that needs some sharpening in a few weeks. i have yet to buy the necessary equipment for the task. what stones and other tools do i need to have? i'm trying to keep my budget at the 150-200 dollar range, preferably at 150. since its a lefty version how do i sharpen the darn thing?

  • @EugeneKowl
    @EugeneKowl 7 років тому

    Almost the only video where someone makes it right)

  • @RebelWrestler45
    @RebelWrestler45 15 років тому

    On the strop, you can only stroke away from the edge, to avoid cutting into the leather. On a stone, where you are actually taking off metal, you can stroke back and forth.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  15 років тому

    hey! no, they're not made specifically for cutlery, yes and yes, they can be store bought and ordered online. they're made by '3m' adhesive company and they come in an array of sizes. there's a method of sharpening called the 'scary sharp' method which incorporates sharpening exclusively with these microfilms. i was thinking of doing a video of this next. : )

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  16 років тому

    yeah, the flattening stone i use is a dmt XXC, the same one i use to set the bevel on flat bevel knives.

  • @gimyungful
    @gimyungful 15 років тому

    what do you use for sharpening your stones?
    the thing you use looks new to me.
    could you let me know?

  • @luckystrikes88
    @luckystrikes88 16 років тому

    excellent video! well made! i enjoyed watching the process the dedicated knife reviving :D

  • @mainaman
    @mainaman 15 років тому

    you make the diamond stones sound like they last forever... the ware out especially if you grind a lot of hard steels to reset the bevels. I killed my first DMT when I thinned my Aritsugu :(

  • @maxbify
    @maxbify 13 років тому

    i really enyoy watching your movies, they are very good.

  • @Krassi-nb8me
    @Krassi-nb8me 9 років тому +2

    they musik is reeeeaaaly cool.. also the lightness and way you sharpen the knife.. fits perfect to the music .. should also sharpen this was with my full range shapton glasstones.. thanks for this greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaat scharpening viedeo.. very inspiaring! ;) (im a crazy german dude with 36 single-,double bevel and 100year old Solinger Knifes ;) )
    seeeeyyaa ;)

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  9 років тому

      +Krassi 3000 that's so cool! those old german knives are very special!

    • @Krassi-nb8me
      @Krassi-nb8me 9 років тому

      yes they are ;) one of the coolest solingen knife i found
      imgur.com/a/B19Rq
      and jnats are also great
      got 2 suitas
      imgur.com/a/i3aKo
      and an okuso shiro suita rende and an aiiwatani and its totally new way af sharpening with those stones!!

    • @juanluissandoval506
      @juanluissandoval506 7 років тому

      Curtis Chung what brand of stone are you using

  • @Roger1379
    @Roger1379 15 років тому

    They wear out when you put alot of pressure onto them, you're supposed to let the diamonds do the work and use very light pressure, when you bear down on the blade to grind you will dislodge the abrasives that are in the stone.

  • @karloyeah
    @karloyeah 14 років тому

    @eceipretsam How do you like it? I'm thinking about getting one... how's the edge retention and all that stuff? :)

  • @gnowPZ
    @gnowPZ 14 років тому

    from which way are you applying pressure? heel to tip or vice-versa, I'm trying to get better at sharpening :)

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  13 років тому +1

    @PepsiRawks the mizuno tanrenjo in this video is a cladded knife. i've sharpened all different sorts of knives with this DMT plate. it really doesn't matter what kind of knife it is, as long as you don't use too much pressure on the plate.

  • @Charliethedawg
    @Charliethedawg 16 років тому

    Well, any leather belt, the wider the better. That was the only reason I recomended cowboy kind. I'm sure you can find a leather belt that is about 2 - 2.5 inches wide.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  13 років тому

    @trubornagain well, depending on the type of steel, 12000 would give you mirror on a stainless for sure.
    to properly answer your question, after 12k, there are still very many options to go that would benefit both the knife's sharpness as well as its appearance. one option is leather strop charged with chromium oxide. cheap and easy make and use.
    30k stone is expensive. microfilm is medium expensive and your edge MUST be dead flat.
    get some leather, glue it to a 2x4. easy and cheap.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  15 років тому

    @gimyungful sorry for the delayed responce, but it's a DMT xxcoarse diasharp diamond stone. i use it to sharpen as well as flatten. i like it because it's flat and will not warp.

  • @Firefoxtony
    @Firefoxtony 4 роки тому +1

    Hey man. Nice sharpening! Where do you get your chromium oxide from? What brand? I have veritas but heard its no good

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  4 роки тому

      Hello! Thanks for watching this old video! The only success I've had with chromium oxide when hand sharpening is with K-1 green rouge by Koyo-Sha from Tokyo. You can get it from woodcraft.com
      It's a paste brick, like a giant crayon, and you just rub it into something, anything and you got a strop. You can use it with power tools too, for powered polishing. The strop I'm using in the video is a strip of raw leather I glued to a piece of wood. I still use it to this day! To remove the chromium, I use waterless hand soap (as to not dry out the leather). Try to find unscented, but that's personal preference. Good luck! And thanks again for watching!

    • @Firefoxtony
      @Firefoxtony 4 роки тому +1

      @@eceipretsam ah that's brilliant thanks for your help man. Do you think chromium oxide is better than diamond paste and sprays? Btw your technique just looks flawless. Your hands are as steady as a machine!

    • @Firefoxtony
      @Firefoxtony 4 роки тому +1

      Also can I ask the name of the last song I like it 😉

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  4 роки тому

      Thank you! Hmm... I feel that the chromium oxide, at least the one I use, is much easier and controllable and much much cheaper to use for everyday knives and their sharpening. I put a thin layer on the leather and it's good for maybe 10-12 knives and more if only touching up. Diamond paste is fickle and costly and that chromium oxide is like 90% as efficient as diamond paste. A terrible habit of mine is that if it's expensive and hard-ish to use, I most likely won't use it. Know what I mean?
      And the last song is one of my favorites.
      ua-cam.com/video/758Y3qGecX4/v-deo.html

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  4 роки тому

      Oh, and I the topic of steady hands, my sharpening technique is all in the hips, legs, shoulder and elbows. Hands, fingers, wrists are locked. Elbow bending and rocking with the knees generate the strokes. It's a whole body exercise, hahaha (in efforts to reduce fatigue)

  • @luv2sharpen
    @luv2sharpen 15 років тому

    Just want to warn against cleaning up the knife after sharpening-I cut myself pretty bad once doing that. Now I only polish a blade before sharpening, or if I've carefully taped the edge up.
    Nice video, but I use my 1x30 at home. I don't have the patience to get that level of polish by hand unless I have to!

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  15 років тому

    when holding the knife by the handle in your right hand, the face side is side facing away from you and the back is the side your thumb's on.

  • @destronov
    @destronov 7 років тому

    Hello Curtis Chung! Nice video, cool sharpening techniques, i have a question about the microfilm, what kind of film do you use, im a newbie sharpening enthusiast, so sorry if my question is noobish.

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  7 років тому

      Lord Destronov hello! Thank you for watching, and thank you for the question! I use 3m microfilm that is psa backed (meaning adhesive), and I wet mount it into a granite reference block. I got the film from toolsforworkingwood.com. The variety isn't very expensive and you get to try em all! I got another video of me mounting and sharpening with it. Check it out. Thanks again!

    • @destronov
      @destronov 7 років тому +1

      Thanks for the quick answer! I will definitly try it out, really want to bring a nice shine to my some of my old kitchen knifes.
      Im going to check your other vid right now!

  • @kiml85
    @kiml85 16 років тому

    When the knife comes new, is it ground on one side or both sides?

  • @KluayNamWa
    @KluayNamWa 16 років тому

    Did you actually go from a course DMT stone to the 6K King? Quite a leap.

  • @j3ckl3r
    @j3ckl3r 15 років тому

    dmt work great for sharpening, no doubt about that. however, according to the japanese, in order to properly display the lines of a forged blade japanese waterstones are to be used. i havent really done any research to see how much of it is myth, but i like the old school method better.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  14 років тому

    @mibo747 thank you! i'm happy people are enjoying my videos : )

  • @hunspikey
    @hunspikey 16 років тому

    congrats man- this vid is very nice- I wish we could press del on those other garbage sharpening vids, others uploaded...
    knifeforums rules :-)

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  14 років тому

    @TheJaapvanderschoof thanks for checking out my video! when sharpening round tips (like western style slicers), you don't need to lift the knife's handle up because there is no taper in the tip, because there is no real tip. hope this makes sense, hahaha! cheers : )

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  15 років тому

    oh crap, i accidentally removed a comment when i was trying to reply.
    the question was what angle the knife was sharpened at.
    the short answer is- i dunno.
    the real answer is that it is very difficult to measure angles while free-hand sharpening. after the knife was sharpened, i measured the angle with a digital angle measurer. i stuck it on the blade while holding the bevel flat against a granite reference block. the face side was 7.6 and the back was 10.4.

  • @SlappieBob
    @SlappieBob 15 років тому

    Do you stroke back and forth, or just back back back?:P

  • @golf603
    @golf603 16 років тому

    I'd love to see a tutorial on polishing, something else you do very well.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  16 років тому

    hehe, yeah, my dmt coarse stone is pretty worn, so it's ok. if you look at the photos at the end of each segment, you can see that the scratch pattern of the dmt coarse is pretty smooth.

  • @DoogenBurns
    @DoogenBurns 12 років тому

    Katamari Damacy OST, the song's called: Gin and Tonic and Red Roses.

  • @Maverick200SX
    @Maverick200SX 16 років тому

    The piece of metal used for flattening the stones looks like an 8 inch DMT Coarse Diamond Plate.

  • @openmindedproduction
    @openmindedproduction 16 років тому

    now to find myself an old leather cowboy belt...

  • @karloyeah
    @karloyeah 14 років тому

    @eceipretsam haha really? how much? how long have you had it?

  • @1ESTfanmovie
    @1ESTfanmovie 14 років тому

    use water for sharped?

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  14 років тому

    @karloyeah love it. i've had the knife for a long time and it's been a great knife. i'm looking at it right now. the metal is blue#2 which is great for just about anything. i use it mostly for kitchen prep and cutting meats and whatever. i have a whole video of me using this knife. it's a good knife.
    it's a great knife. i really like the buffalo horn on mine. i have white horn with red and black streaks. very nice. you wanna buy mine? hahaha, i have too many knives.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  15 років тому

    yes and no. yes because flattening with dmt plate creates a natural mud, but personally, i don't use naguras.

  • @lungsun5644
    @lungsun5644 8 років тому

    Will u use the same kind of long stroke to sharpening single bevel knifes like yanagiba, especially the concave side?

  • @Dtmdeman
    @Dtmdeman 14 років тому

    Thanks for the video.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  15 років тому

    for japanese double beveled knives, i usually aim for the 60/40 grind.

  • @PepsiRawks
    @PepsiRawks 13 років тому

    Dia plates scare the shit out of me but this video intruiges me. Would you reccomend a dia plate on a cladded knife? Or would it be best to stick with a beston 500?

  • @CanItAlready
    @CanItAlready 14 років тому

    *wondering which two weirdo youtubers watched this video and gave it thumbs down*
    This process is similar to what I do with my Mora. On a day when I'm feeling too rushed, it can be tedious. On a day when I'm feeling relaxed, I can almost fall asleep doing it because it's almost hypnotic. LOL

  • @Kniteknite23A
    @Kniteknite23A 9 років тому +1

    I won't tell You that You can't, but..... You will really give Your 6000 stone more longevity if You use a 2-3000 stone in between =) btw great vid, the music is nice to listen to on a hot summer day, takes Me away ~(Kk~ that last bit with the guitar reminds me of Pat Metheny

  • @Jan-jq8fy
    @Jan-jq8fy 5 років тому

    DO you apply pressure on trailing stroke only or leading too?

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  5 років тому

      Light consistent pressure is applied throughout the whole process.

  • @diogatus
    @diogatus 12 років тому

    Hello! My name is Diogo Amorim and I am a chef from Portugal. I want to buy a stainless wa-gyuto 240mm. Which knife do you advice me to buy? Is it Mizuno Tanrenjo a good solution?

  • @dodger2051
    @dodger2051 12 років тому

    What type of leather did you use for your strop?

  • @Charliethedawg
    @Charliethedawg 16 років тому

    Just find an old leather cowboy belt. Cut the piece of it and mount on the wooden blok. It is exactly what he had.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  14 років тому

    @soulfly7112000 any knife can cut. listen to the sound it makes in the beginning. it doesn't cut the paper, it rips it. listen to the sound of the knife cutting the paper at the end. it's much quieter when the knife cuts the paper and not rips it.

  • @biscuitkitchentnives
    @biscuitkitchentnives 9 років тому

    Is that diamond microfilm or regular microfilm.

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  9 років тому

      +Adam Yarbough it's 3m microfilm, regular, i guess. they make diamond microfilm now?? i need to check out the new technology!

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  16 років тому

    this knife is a double beveled knife, so it is ground on both sides.

  • @sickobanza
    @sickobanza 13 років тому

    for a very dull knife i use 80, then 200, then 1000 and finish at 6000. then leather strop. anything wrong with that?

  • @benny187
    @benny187 16 років тому

    what angle do you use on your knives?

  • @Natchler
    @Natchler 11 років тому +1

    Katamari Damacy music. Knew it sounded familiar.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  15 років тому

    yes

  • @chefgav1
    @chefgav1 16 років тому

    Why do you use a Diamond stone and not a traditional whetstone.never seen a diamond stone used on Japanese knife before.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  14 років тому

    @cdioUSMC i used the DMT xxcoarse diamond stone to flatten. i always use this one to flatten.
    thanks for watching : )

  • @labefana91
    @labefana91 13 років тому

    can i flat the water stone with the diamond plate?

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  14 років тому

    @hanserclimbs yanagiba's and traditional single beveled knives are concave on the backside. you can mirror polish the edges of the back, but i would focus on sharpening and polishing the very wide single bevel. i think i might do a single bevel sharpening video next! thanks for watching : )

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  16 років тому

    thanks! i'm glad you enjoyed the video.
    hahaha, i'll sharpen your knives, but i'll charge ya! : P

  • @j3ckl3r
    @j3ckl3r 15 років тому

    they are from the katamari damacy video game

  • @karloyeah
    @karloyeah 14 років тому

    What's the length of the blade from heel to tip?

  • @mainaman
    @mainaman 15 років тому

    Nagura is for raising mud and cleaning the glaze not for flattening.

  • @Reza-nz2re
    @Reza-nz2re 5 років тому

    You are washing asay the important thing kn the stone which is the whet powder. The one that sharpening your knife

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  16 років тому

    thanks rog : D

  • @jabesmond8401
    @jabesmond8401 7 років тому

    9 yrs late to the party... Did you skip staight from dmt coarse to king 6000?

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  7 років тому

      Jabes Mond hahaha yeah, there's been huge discussions about that. The dmt coarse (at the time of video) had already been worn quite smooth. I forgot what my "official" response was, but that was the reason. Thanks for watching! I'm gonna shoot a new video soon.

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  14 років тому

    @1ESTfanmovie yes, only water is used.

  • @Roger1379
    @Roger1379 15 років тому

    You're talking like Japanese knives are made of a special steel that doesn't work with DMT stones or something lol. Diamond stones are fine for sharpening japanese knives, diamond stones are easier to maintain, don't dish out and cut faster.

  • @GambinoTin
    @GambinoTin 7 років тому

    What type of metal is your knife

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  7 років тому

      David Braithwaite this one is blue #2

    • @GambinoTin
      @GambinoTin 7 років тому

      Would you recommend this knife?

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  7 років тому

      David Braithwaite hell yes, I love this knife! They got a long rich history involving the emperor and their seal. read up on them, they're special!

    • @GambinoTin
      @GambinoTin 7 років тому

      I have my finger on the buy button. I have just never put an edge on a new knife before. Should I get their sharpening service?

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  7 років тому

      David Braithwaite maybe... if you wanna pay the couple extra dollars, it's a really cool service. but if you feel confident in your sharpening, then do it yourself.

  • @KluayNamWa
    @KluayNamWa 16 років тому

    LOL....just saw your comment.....

  • @aobbuddy
    @aobbuddy 14 років тому

    I agree with everything you did, until you stropped the blade. The leather removes the very fine teeth you worked so hard to put into the edge, I'm not talking about the burr, just the actual edge the stone gives. Now you have a knife better for chopping rather than slicing. Depends what your doing in the kitchen I guess.

  • @ik999
    @ik999 13 років тому

    where is the music from?
    regards

  • @Dwarvenchef
    @Dwarvenchef 16 років тому

    There ya go :D

  • @diogatus
    @diogatus 12 років тому

    size of the knife?

  • @RvaninaVpered
    @RvaninaVpered 15 років тому

    paper cutting it is very primitive test to show sharpness quality.
    make more demonstrative significant tests.

  • @HigherPlanes
    @HigherPlanes 11 років тому +1

    so you don't even bother feeling for a burr?

    • @mainaman
      @mainaman 11 років тому

      when you sharpen enough knives you do not have to do those things you know when to flip and all that. Only time you going to actually check is if you re doing heavy repair work.

    • @HigherPlanes
      @HigherPlanes 11 років тому

      mainaman
      Well you really seem to know what you're doing because that knife was insanely sharp by the end of the video.

    • @eceipretsam
      @eceipretsam  9 років тому +1

      +HigherPlanes so, there's no point in feeling for the burr if you do a stroke-counting system like i do. i sharpen each side of the knife the same amount of strokes counting down, and at the end, the edges are even. when you start the next stone, there definitely will be a burr, but it will grind off naturally. at the very very end of sharpening, after leather stropping, i will use a cork, or wood or cardboard and remove the final final burr when it's super fine. i don't like ripping off a burr when it's big and huge because in my mind, it causes microscopic unevenness at the edge, but i'm crazy : P

    • @HigherPlanes
      @HigherPlanes 9 років тому

      +Curtis Chung
      Nice, thanks for sharing your technique =)

  • @eceipretsam
    @eceipretsam  14 років тому

    @karloyeah 240mm

  • @ntlsteven
    @ntlsteven 13 років тому

    Testing that knife on a lee valley catalog? blasphemy!

  • @s161008
    @s161008 15 років тому

    いなあ~~~

  • @brownbear696969
    @brownbear696969 14 років тому

    Why the gay music