If a new KTM ran like that, every Beta and Sherco nut job would crawl out from every rock to have something to say... Man, you live in paradise, super beautiful. Nice to see your youngns are having fun, love it!
I know right?? The beta dudes were so pissed at me for not loving it. It wasn’t right from the get go. Now it’s good. Looking forward to riding it more now.
Yeh but, to be fair, KTM's have that fancy e-lectronic injection with sensors and stuff that are supposed to automatically calibrate. He lives at high elevation, higher than I ever ride and the Beta has a carburetor that comes jetted for much lower. It should run funny out of the box up there. Don't think I would have had 60 hours of patience tho.
@@ddrowdy2 I jetted it already. It wasn’t out of the box. Also, it ran pretty good from 0 to 3/4 or 7/8 throttle. It was just the top that sucked. And honestly it seemed to get worse with time. I’m thinking it had more to do with the two plugs than jetting.
If KTM had a carbureted model today, would you now prefer TPI or TBI? The reason I ask is I had a 2013 KTM 300 that absolutely ripped. I ride my friends TPIs, still plenty powerful and nice bikes but they seem more like today's Beta (softer hit).
@@highlandcycles Yes, I agree and Beta is super! Great bikes. They have really crappy electrical wiring and electrical systems though, and I mean really cheap stuff. All bikes have something that's not great. All in all Beta's are fantastic bikes.
did i hear you say that you thought the jetting was on but turns out it is not? so if you rejetted it b4 you put that head on it would have worked fine? if so then you bought the head for nothing other than trying out something new, which is cool!!
Jetting! My 23 is set up really lean 35, 160, J at first clip. Stock recommended settings were just baaaaahgy off the bottom, blubbery at cruising and dead at top like you were experiencing. I found the 40,38 to be way to rich of the bottom. I've had other beta''s and ran them all lean with no issues. I would think each bike needs to be jetted to each persons liking and each bike to me has had its own jetting settings. Good Vid, Long winded as usual.
Might want to confirm your float height , mine was out from factory , should of checked it from get go , made the mistake running a smaller pilot to try and compensate . Back to a 38 pilot now with a float height of 7.5 mm , 165 main , runs sweet now , 250 rr 2023
@@oky69 I have adjusted the float on several Beta's, They seem to go out of proper height often, I also re route the vent tubes higher for less lost fuel
@@bradaltergott2786 float height once set should not go out , set carby up at 60 degree angle and recheck, mine was at about 5 mm to high , set to 7.5 sweet spot
I wonder if simply eliminating the rear coil would have fixed the problem. Maybe, as someone else said, the bike just doesn’t have enough electrical power to run two coils at higher rpm.
I was all set to buy a Beta 390 until I was at the dealership looking at them and a mechanic from the back was walking through and whispered to me "go orange". I said you think? He said "I know"
great drone opening, beautiful area. I have an 18 300rr & was thinking about jumping to a 24 RE but wanted to see reports about that 2 spark plug design. I'm sure its theoretically better, but real world questionable, especially for regular riders like us. Seems totally unnecessary after seeing your report.
Based on past experience with Beta, replacing the voltage regulator with a mosfet voltage regulator would probably have fixed it also. The oem voltage regulators are a bit on the lower output side of things and when you have 2 coils at wide open throttle there was probably not enough juice. Anyone with charging problems on a beta 4 stroke (if your that way inclined) a mosfet voltage regulator is the fix.
I’m planning a trip to Rico Colorado and I’ll be bringing my 300 beta, what jetting are you running? I’m assuming it’s similar to what you run in your area. I’ve got the high comp head and full exhaust.
Great video, Definitely noticed my 24 doing the same when I was racing. Been eyeing up the s3 head for a while. Looking forward to seeing more on how it performs and jetting. Always felt like I am running rich even after leaning out the jet some.
To rich. Did you change the jetting after the new HC head? BTW the compression is already high on those 300's stock. Now putting a higher compression head on? I'm curious to see what your compression is now. 🤔
If a new KTM ran like that, every Beta and Sherco nut job would crawl out from every rock to have something to say... Man, you live in paradise, super beautiful. Nice to see your youngns are having fun, love it!
I know right?? The beta dudes were so pissed at me for not loving it. It wasn’t right from the get go. Now it’s good. Looking forward to riding it more now.
Yeh but, to be fair, KTM's have that fancy e-lectronic injection with sensors and stuff that are supposed to automatically calibrate. He lives at high elevation, higher than I ever ride and the Beta has a carburetor that comes jetted for much lower. It should run funny out of the box up there. Don't think I would have had 60 hours of patience tho.
@@ddrowdy2 I jetted it already. It wasn’t out of the box. Also, it ran pretty good from 0 to 3/4 or 7/8 throttle. It was just the top that sucked. And honestly it seemed to get worse with time. I’m thinking it had more to do with the two plugs than jetting.
If KTM had a carbureted model today, would you now prefer TPI or TBI? The reason I ask is I had a 2013 KTM 300 that absolutely ripped. I ride my friends TPIs, still plenty powerful and nice bikes but they seem more like today's Beta (softer hit).
@@highlandcycles Yes, I agree and Beta is super! Great bikes. They have really crappy electrical wiring and electrical systems though, and I mean really cheap stuff. All bikes have something that's not great. All in all Beta's are fantastic bikes.
Great drone footage you have a cool pad and all that space awesome👍
Thanks 👍
Its a good feeling when our bikes are running right.... 👍
I wish you would have done a compression test before and after to see the difference
Yeah but why? More compression is always better up here.
Love the intro to this video!
did i hear you say that you thought the jetting was on but turns out it is not? so if you rejetted it b4 you put that head on it would have worked fine? if so then you bought the head for nothing other than trying out something new, which is cool!!
Nah, we need more compression up here anyway
You gotta love livin' in the country... I know I do!!
whats the part number on the s3 head. i didnt see the link
Hmmm. It’s the one for a 22-23 beta
is the S3 head a slavens product?
No. It’s from S3. They are a European company
That's what my bike would do with a bad coil
Jetting! My 23 is set up really lean 35, 160, J at first clip. Stock recommended settings were just baaaaahgy off the bottom, blubbery at cruising and dead at top like you were experiencing. I found the 40,38 to be way to rich of the bottom. I've had other beta''s and ran them all lean with no issues. I would think each bike needs to be jetted to each persons liking and each bike to me has had its own jetting settings. Good Vid, Long winded as usual.
I had mine at 158 already. I might try 155
Might want to confirm your float height , mine was out from factory , should of checked it from get go , made the mistake running a smaller pilot to try and compensate . Back to a 38 pilot now with a float height of 7.5 mm , 165 main , runs sweet now , 250 rr 2023
@@oky69 I have adjusted the float on several Beta's, They seem to go out of proper height often, I also re route the vent tubes higher for less lost fuel
@@bradaltergott2786 float height once set should not go out , set carby up at 60 degree angle and recheck, mine was at about 5 mm to high , set to 7.5 sweet spot
I wonder if simply eliminating the rear coil would have fixed the problem.
Maybe, as someone else said, the bike just doesn’t have enough electrical power to run two coils at higher rpm.
That is a good question for sure. I wish I had tried that but I wanted a high comp head anyway for our elevation.
I was all set to buy a Beta 390 until I was at the dealership looking at them and a mechanic from the back was walking through and whispered to me "go orange". I said you think? He said "I know"
Yep
great drone opening, beautiful area. I have an 18 300rr & was thinking about jumping to a 24 RE but wanted to see reports about that 2 spark plug design. I'm sure its theoretically better, but real world questionable, especially for regular riders like us. Seems totally unnecessary after seeing your report.
That is for sure
Yes….!! I’m gettin one for sure now. Sounds like mine doesn’t. 🤙🏼😂
Based on past experience with Beta, replacing the voltage regulator with a mosfet voltage regulator would probably have fixed it also. The oem voltage regulators are a bit on the lower output side of things and when you have 2 coils at wide open throttle there was probably not enough juice. Anyone with charging problems on a beta 4 stroke (if your that way inclined) a mosfet voltage regulator is the fix.
Who makes the best one?
@@highlandcyclesgoogle - trispark 20 amp voltage rectifier regulator - wiring is a bit of a fiddle but these things are good.
Awesome....runs perfect! Lovely area you live!!!
Heck yeah
great job as always lad sounds pretty sweet keep up the great work
Super intro footage Morgan 🎉🎉🎉
I’m planning a trip to Rico Colorado and I’ll be bringing my 300 beta, what jetting are you running? I’m assuming it’s similar to what you run in your area. I’ve got the high comp head and full exhaust.
For Rico, I’d run a 155 main, 40 pilot, NECJ needle in #2
@@highlandcycles you the bomb! Thanks
Great video, Definitely noticed my 24 doing the same when I was racing. Been eyeing up the s3 head for a while. Looking forward to seeing more on how it performs and jetting. Always felt like I am running rich even after leaning out the jet some.
I can say that my kid is LOVING it! Says it’s a million times better.
Sounds a lot better, glad its fixed
Stoked you got issue sorted, the new head looks awesome 👌
To rich. Did you change the jetting after the new HC head?
BTW the compression is already high on those 300's stock. Now putting a higher compression head on? I'm curious to see what your compression is now. 🤔
Had to be too rich. Did not change jetting.
@@highlandcycles stock compression is around 12:1
The squish is like 1,8mm :/
you had it skint back
That’s sounds crisp👍👍
Probably a dumb question but did you ever check the float height?
Yes. Actually multiple times because I was so confused
What's the stock head look like???
Do you like the beta 300 engine more than the yz250 you have
For hard stuff, yes.
Your buddy Kelsey is really going to be pissed now!! HAHA 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I know. Hahahah
The best beginning of the video ever !😲👍🔥🔥🔥
Thanks!!
There was more build up to this video than deadpool 3 🙂
🤣
2 strokes are too much work.. 4 stroke efi ftw!
Hahahaha. Tell that to the guy who has a 2013 Husky 310 at the shop 😂🤣
Get rid of the Suzuki needle . It falls flat
Have a Suzuki necj on my 250 rr , no issues up top
Man that just sounds like a poor running bike. I’m happy with my 300 tbi
Glad you got it figured out.