How Yugioh RUINED Mai Valentine
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Yu-Gi-Oh! (Japanese: 遊☆戯☆王, Hepburn: Yū-Gi-Ō!, lit. 'Game King') is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Kazuki Takahashi. It was serialized in Shueisha's Weekly Shōnen Jump magazine between September 1996 and March 2004. The plot follows the story of a boy named Yugi Mutou, who solves the ancient Millennium Puzzle. Yugi awakens a gambling alter-ego or spirit within his body that solves his conflicts using various games.
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Let's be honest, the fanbase dogged on Mai just as badly as the writers did. After all, no one forgets to mention that _Joey_ actually beat Marik, but Mai almost never gets mentioned in that same discussion.
People also forgot that odion would have beaten jounochi.
In yami malik's case I would argue that he did not take mai serious at any point. He took jounochi serious once he was still standing after ra's attack which was when yami malik had no influence anymore. Even if any of those characters would have won, it would not have been a big win. Yami malik has this issue that he loved torturing his opponents to much and that he suffers from hubris. We saw him going all out vs yami yugi and he was outplaying him consistently. Yami malik in the final duel was the only time where he was at full power.
@@mariowarionWhat a silly excuse, might as well claim that Mai never took Joey serious enough and that's the only reason why he could win 😂, the only reason why Marik not literally got wrecked by his own god-card against Mai was that he just pulled some ancient egyptian plot armour out of his butt.
Well @mariowarion was so friendly to provide a perfect example for your point 😅, so I guess you might be onto something with it.
I remember it
@@mariowarion Yeah, he was a good antagonist, and a good duelist in the one dual that we saw him go all out. His weakness was that he only tried when he felt like he had to, and it cost him once in the case of his order to Odion to play the fake Ra, and it should have cost him twice because of his duels with Joey and Mai.
A Mai structure or starter deck would've been pretty cool. 90s, kid here.
Yes!
Omg yes. With original Harpie lady artwork and some new support cards.
As a kid watching the anime Mai was my favorite character. Ended up having to make my own Harpy Lady deck because I got bored waiting on an official one.
@@jackforrest3500 my favorite's are Dartz and Rafael but of course not all of Dartz/s cards have been released and most of Rafael's are banned or just not that great.
i had a harpie lady deck growing up and i rocked that shit
In duelist kingdom there isn't any time to be all caring toward Yugi's feelings. If he isn't willing to duel to his best then he was gonna lose. Mai wanted Yugi to snap out of his funk
Your right God-bless
She was nicer then Pegasus would be
Most of these do sound pretty bad, but you could justify the Duelist Kingdom example as her trying to give Yugi some tough love, which does eventually work, and isn't totally left field for her. And she ultimately throws the game out of that desire to help him, and also not sicourage Tea.
That’s how I grew up. Tough love. Nut up and shut up. Keep moving
And it's a great lesson sometimes words won't cut it you gotta give thought love
Exactly! Shes more mature then all of them, both physically and mentally, and you can hear the frustration in her voice, because she genuinely cares
Orichalcos arc gave Mai her second ever on screen win, so to me it actually did her more good than her abrupt exit out of the manga. Why wasn't she in DSoD? Her arc was clearly not finished.
Can you really give her that win tho 😂
In the manga, Mai never appears again after Battle City, and since Takahashi co-wrote the screenplay to Dark Side of Dimensions, he wasn’t interested in continuing any anime only storylines that he had no involvement in.
@@ECKohns Still could have given her a background cameo. Even Rex and Weevil got that much.
She won because Joey was too exhausted to continue. Though I guess if she had Declared an attack she would have won. Still wouldn’t have changed her voice back
@@ECKohnsDSOD is the only manga cannon it has nothing to do that anime, they have different cannons
I always hated how Mia seemed to reset every arc she was in. It was always this whole I don’t need friends and then ends up learning she does only to come back the next arc and again the same thing.
Mai is like Pikachu of Pokemon; they always have a reset each season.
She does needs friends I have a dream since this morning today so I went to talk to her that joey and her friends are still loves her and cared for her. I have a good dream
I don’t think she was being dismissive of yugis feelings in duelist kingdom. She was trying to help him. Everyone else was talking sweet and encouraging him but he wasn’t listening because he was stuck in a moment of self pity. Mai gave him tough love, she doesn’t have the personality to be gentle…And while she maybe didn’t know the WHOLE situation, she was basically mocking him to make him understand how stupid it really sounded out loud: How he needs to grow up, stop over exaggerating one loss, what a crybaby, etc. she was hoping he’d hear her and think to himself “wow maybe it really is dumb of me to be thinking like that “😭
Yeah I agree, that's one change I can respect, and is in tune with the established personality of the character up to that point.
Brutal honesty isn't always a good thing. And in most cases Mai was just being a b**tch right there.
I wanted Mai to be in the final duel between Yugi and Atem. If Seto was there seeing them both, why not Mai?
FR tho! Even someone like Duke Devlin was there.
She is still Yugioh Best Girl ❤️
Mai deserved better
Yes. Cry about a side character. Fuc king spoiled sack of dirt.
Most women did.
@DarkEclipse23 Why are you _here?_ Why do you CARE?
Apart from romin they did her great @@christopherb501
Si si I agreed
We saw her duel that one actor.
I get why the scene in the Anime where she gets mad at Yugi for not taking her star chips can be seen as insensitive (Especially compared to the manga) - but I think it makes total sense! Especially when Mai & Yugi eventually duel she can tell he's still holding back, and while it might be presented as tough love, she was trying to get him out of that state!
Mai defo got treated poorly in the series, but she's still on of the best girls!!!
Everyone in battle city was a jobber let’s be real. If your name isn’t Yugi, you’re gonna catch some serious hands.
I think Battle City was most of all a way to give the Yugi and Joey especially new cards for the future
Besides Ishizu, Marik, and Odion, no new characters were established enough to make it to the finals. Just the ones that carry the plot
@@SpencerMiller574 Most characters in yugioh only exist to lose.
It's like Dragonball Z, Yugi is the Goku so he's just going to get the glory in the end. The only other one who stands a chance of serious recognition is Kaiba, he's more or less the Vegeta. Mai's more like.... the Krillin? Shows up but you never expect her to get very far.
@@VGamingJunkieVT to be fair Mai and Joey both get to the end of every tournament they enter
A woman in a shonen series not being treated well?
That's unheard of. 🤷♂️
But just because it’s a shonen doesn’t excuse writers to write women horribly.
Shows like Gintama, Fairy Tail, Soul Eater, Akame ga Kill, Black Clover, Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer etc have proven that they can write female characters well without butchering them.
So why can’t YGO writers do the same?
@@siphemanana2551 IDK about JJK I heard it butchered it's female characters and left them in the dust at a certain point in the anime and manga.
Get off your high horse dude....
Even if Mai wasn’t in grand championship, they could have found some way to have her appear and watch the final duel and reconcile with Joey and the gang at that point.
@@DarkEclipse23 Imagine reading something that is not written there. OP was only talking about friendship, not romance.
She did at least watch Grand Prix
@@DarkEclipse23 this ship is TERRIBLE. let's be real if it was Pegasus x tea who share the same ages with Joey x Mai they'd scream and be in tears
@@lpfan4491no grown want needs to be around a bunch of school kids. Shes not offering them food shelter, transportation or advice? Then NO
@@DarkEclipse23go outside
She should have joined their gang the writers did her dirty and her arc in waking the dragons was awful the only good thing was her deck but we knew she was already a good duelists
Stop talk bad about some one already death.
Mai joining Yugi and Kaiba against Dartz would actually be really sick. She could even use the Claw of Hermos and turn maybe her Harpy's Pet Dragon into a weapon for one of her Harpys. Joey helped Yugi do it against Raphael. So I don't see why he wouldn't do it against Dartz when it mattered most.
Joey VS Mai was actually unironically the best duel in an otherwise painful arc.
Mai Valentine will always be the best female protagonist/anti-hero in the entire franchise. From her character design, to her actual dueling abilities.. she’s 1 of 1. And to still be talked about in 2024 and remembered by fans is a testament to her legacy. Forever my fav. 🫶🏽👑
I want mai to come back
Better than what the manga did just dropping her after giving her the biggest trauma of all time.
Her design is sick
Mai was never meant to be an important character.
In the manga she was just another throwaway duelist for the tournament arcs, like Weevil or Mako.
Yeah, but we saw her way more than mako.
That's a lie
"It was intended" does not always mean that it is a good thing.
Up to this day im waiting for a faithful adaptation of the manga
Never happening.
Has as much possiblity as Season 4 GX being dubbed, many 5Ds episodes being dubbed, and 5Ds fan boys asking for a dumb movie
Bro really thinking they’re gonna tank their franchise for some loser like you no one cares about.
@@DarkEclipse23 danm
It's never going to happen cause Season 0 actually failed in Japan. There was an attempt by Bandai at making their own TCG, but it got discontinued after 3 expansions.
Well, you'll be waiting forever then.🤷♂️
Sevans treats the main girl character Romin with respect. Go Rush mostly went back to how it usually is, she gets less focus than two main leads and no big wins. Right now in season 3 Yuamu is kidnapped and may turn out to be the main villain of the arc if the writers have guts, but we don't know yet. The third season is about the two male leads going into space with pretty much a new main female lead to search for her.
Why did you have that need to spoil for anyone that would doubtfully like to see that shit
I don't even like Yuamu in thd first place
Crazy since she uses dragons you would think she would be the main focus compared to the machine brother. Machine is always sidekick though so maybe that’s why he is always with cyberse boy
@@MJ-oi6ulit is funny because the machine is the true deck of Yuamu
3:38 This is such a good idea! She could even use Hermos since it would feel her desire to save Joey and work with her. She'd still probably be defeated by Dartz but like Kaiba it would show how dire things are while not sacrificing Mai's character.
Honestly I say that Mai's arc could have been really great if her giving Yugi the Star Chips more closely followed the manga's version of the events, and that her end in the Doma filler arc was a bit more conclusive. She definitely should have come back and properly apologized for everything that she did instead of being delegated to a blink and you miss it background character. I actually really like her negative character arc in the Doma arc to show that her torture and defeat at the hands of Yami Marik had serious, long-lasting effects on her, but she definitely shouldn't have been offscreened.
Here's how I would have handled Mai. So.
She beats Marik in their duel but Marik sends her to the Shadow Realm anyways when he goes to kill Odion. He then takes Mai to his rare hunter base where Yugi, Kaiba and Joey battle through to Marik, Joey plucks up courage and takes him down.
The Battle City finals resume, with the finals being between Yugi and Joey.
Then in Waking the Dragons, Bandit Keith takes Mai's role getting revenge on Pegasus and then later Joey who is with Mai at the time, in a fit of rage Mai decimates Keith only to lose her soul to Raphael.
Series 5 would mostly just play the same as normal, Mai's had enough of duelling for now so maybe an interesting conflict with Joey about PTSD and burnout too.
Oooh interesting 🤔 I like how you realistically brought back Bandit Keith who just kinda disappeared
@@sanslogic23 I figured he made the most sense to take Mai's place, he just vanished in Battle City and considering he'd want vengeance against a lot of people: Pegasus, Joey and even Marik he'd be an easy target for Dartz
Yes I heard she did have a ptsd
I largely disagree with two of the three points here.
1) Duellist Kingdom is more of an issue of dub vs sub. In the sub, her intentions are much clearer than in the dub. She doesn't say it directly like she does in the manga, but she does say quietly to herself or in her thoughts that her intention is to remind Yugi of his purpose here and of the game he enjoys by coaxing Tea/Anzu into a duel so their passion can break through Yugis shock. It's designed to show that Mai, while somewhat harsh on the surface, is a genuinely good person with a lot of empathy and cunning.
2) In the anime continuity, she wasn't taking Ra for flair, it was her actual strategy to take it from him from the start, but equally some have argued that Holding Arms effect was described as "invincible" for three turns, meaning she couldn't do damage without either waiting it out or destroying it, so summon Ra would have enough removed Holding Arms from the board or cemented her board state until she had an answer. Even if it wasn't the best move and she could have won with the sisters, she was basically in a position where, if plot armour didn't happen, she was guaranteed to win, so did it with style.
I do agree, however, that it would have been nice to see a more full end for her character. At the same time, I kind of feel like it was right for it to end that way, where she goes on her own again but this time feeling more secure in her relationships with the others and ready to process her trauma more healthily. Her final words were optimistic if apologetic, and felt in line with her "lone wolf" character for her to come back to her friends when she felt it was time to do so.
I personally love Mai in the show due to her arc and desire to be self-sufficient, yet subtle in her ways of showing care for her friends that others barely pick up on.
Mai's fate sucks. She really had nothing major to show beyond some decent moments in Duelist Kingdom and essencially being the girl in distress in Battle City and was then thrown out of the story, without addressing her mental state after all that shenanagans. The anime actually does. And gives her a lot of well-crafted attention actually. And then sets up a redemption arc to fix her having lost her way, this rocks.
Then she got assassinated hard next episode for some reason, this doesn't rock. And thrown out of the story again because "Kaiba Corp couldn't find her" for Grand Prix? Wat? But why tho? (Yes, she literally shows up for the crowd later. Makes it even more dumb.)
Yeah, there is er...a reason why I want a remake of the anime that is handled competently? Like, I also want an actual adaptation of the Manga too, of course, but there are a lot of things unique to the anime that are great ideas but handled really poorly that deserve their own careful treatment. Especially considering it's not like the anime is a throwaway production that can be scrubbed from history and nothing is lost. It has its own sequels, spinoffs, videogames, etc. It is for all intends and purposes its own thing.
3:36 I don't think the card would actually work afterwards, they kinda destroyed its powersource. I feel as though it would make more sense to have her discard it to handtrap-negate one of dartz's vital cards to cap off that redemption arc. Yes, I took that effect from the weird Upperdeck Employee version, it feels appropriate enough considering one of the plotpoints in the arc is that the Orichalcos is capable of destroying itself, why shouldn't it have an omni-negate destruct?
At least HALF the shows merit a face-lift. Aside from Arc-V, which needs at its bones AND muscle AND blood replaced.
To be honest I thought “Waking The Dragons” still counted regardless if it’s a “filler”.
I kinda liked that the anime let Teia fight Mai for the star chips. Mai was being abrasive because she wanted to drive them to beat her and win the star chips fair and square. The through line of her character was emotional distance and I think it was actually done well.
I mean mai vould have beat marik, and mai also helped yugi a lot in the kingdom duelist finals.
I was said that so many cards like cybershield, rosewhip werent even produced back in the 20s and i never understood why feather dusters print was different
The YGO anime and the manga are 2 different continuitys. So Waking the Dragons technically is not a filler arc within the anime continuity. It's even called back to later, and fills in the plot holes left by a lack of season 0 being localized.
So nobody can use the "its filler" argument to defend Mai.
Also she kills Jonochi cuz she had a skill issue in a card game and got so jealous over being in someone elses shadow that even Kaiba would shake his head from secondhand embarrassment.
Mai was a sign of things to come.
The treatment of Aoi Zaizen in VRAINS is the culmination of all those signs.
If you wanna keep on this route on the fenale Duelists, please talk about how VRAINS not just destroyed Aoi as a Duelist and character, but also how every single one of her loses ended in some form of physical humiliation.
Also, apparently a major factor in this overall issue was the original director (who was replaced after VRAINS when they changed studios) was incredibly sexist. Like the director is almost infamous for how poorly he writes and handles female in every project he is involved in.
He's a good writer, but even he admits that he is no good with writing female characters. Which is why he actually didn't significantly touch Mai in DM, even when episodes in Season 4 focussed on her(those episodes were written by someone else, iirc a woman)...and it still ended up poorly in the second half. Heck, bro was not even part of the ArcV anime at all and that turned out worse than anything else pre-Vrains.
Studio Gallop was just cursed and could not keep a female character in the green if their life depended on it.
yugi was not crying cause he lost his chance to enter the castle but that yami would have let kaiba fall to his death
I just hate the fact the writers and studio only thought little straight boys watched this show. Hence why women were never given much ever.
Also Mai trash talked yugi while trying to give him the star chips because that’s the way she shows love. I didn’t think that was a hard concept to grasp.
Which is ironic, considering straight boys want to see the pretty girls succeed too. Just look at the unintended audience for Sailor Moon, they are not there to see them get thrown in the corner and forgotten.
Pation for people on the internet to say “send them selfs to the shadow realm.” Instead of “un alive”
They really ruined mai. But her combos and cards in the oricalchos saga was great at least. But i wished so much i could see the fight against raphael when she tries to take revenge. I dont know why they messed her so much
I used to be happy when Mai came around then after around I realized she only comes around to be the damsel in distress
Always love when people claim that a character not acting like how THEY think the character should act is “out of character”. People are unpredictable
🙄
I disagree with at least some of this analysis. I actually loved her 4kids battle with Tea, it showed Mai had her own unique and valid way of motivating Yugi. She has a hard time showing care outright, but she really desperately wanted to help. She motivated him like a bratty big sister, which fit her character at the time, who previously was a solo cholo. This was a more gradual character arc sure, but one I thought was actually sweet, and really was one of the moments that endeared me to her character. And a character being the victim of Hubris isn't a character assassination, it's actually having a plot. She had gotten far with the heart of the cards, but it showed that in the heat of the moment, the spotlight can get the better of anyone. She has a hard time separating her identity as that person and the woman she's becoming because of the scooby gang. And this finally erupts in the orichalcos arc, where in the absence of the gang, completely loses her identity. She wants to be that "heart of the cards, best friends forever" kind of girl, but her friends, like many friend groups, have sort of gone their separate ways. And while maybe they were ready for it, she wasn't, and that was a very isolating feeling, and the next group of people she falls in with are pretty much the worst. We can see the promise of the orichalcos as a metaphor for drugs and other wreckless behaviors. And even though her friends get her through that time, she still has a lot of shame to deal with. My only beef is not revisiting her in either the last season of DM or in the movie, because there a redemption arc was so well deserved.
Some may argue that Mai and ol gurl whooping Para and Dox on the Great Wall as the process of fixing her life.
The biggest thing that ruined Mai is that her Harpie Lady deck just stayed perpetually weak. Throughout all of her duels, she never had any new boss monster(s). I love my Harpie Lady build, but the "First Waifu Deck" is nothing more than a punching bag deck.
Her deck never really "cracked" and until it does in the main game, she will always be the DM era's whipping girl.
At least the new magic and trap cards from Waking the Dragons helped a little, but yeah, without the seal, her deck is pretty lackluster.
I think when Mai meet Yugi, Tea , Tristan, Serenity and Duke again.....they will be forgive her...... although Joey's explanation will be the serious challenge for her
The writers pissed me off so much with Mai. She deserved so much better.
Grand Prix honestly had the potential to be such a good love letter to the fans of the series. Instead of the worthless characters who have little screen time, we should have had characters we know and love have one last hurrah. Mai and Mako should've been there instead of a wizard cosplayer and a discount sherlock holmes. It really bummed me out that Mai didn't get a proper send off.
It does suck that fans of Mai never got a proper send off or epic victory we can cling to. Although all of Mai’s duels for the most part were epic and pushed the plot. The only woman treated worse by the franchise was Mai’s original va. She brought an irreplaceable personality to the character and I was always confused why she never voiced Mai in any yugioh project since. A part of the reason I love rangiku some much is because it literally feels like they plucked out her character and put her in the Bleach universe
You show a image of the female main duelists, showing both anzu and kotori. Those two were not primarily duelists but rather worked as a moral support for the main character. Kotori has ome onscreen duel. Anzu has like two with one being in the filler season. They contributed more support to the main character than any of the primary female duelists because of how they encouraged them when they were at their lowest.
Zuzu qas
I never understand why ygo always have problems writing and maintaining female duelists. Heck, Asuka’s Cyber Angel was an Anime only archetype during GX, most of Aki uses like 20 cards during the whole show, most of them anime only at the time.
While Cardfight Vanguard anime is not as good as they used to be, it still has a fair share of strong female. They actually have a female protagonist in their mini manga, And the current Dear days game’s main lead is a bad ass female.
@@runerune7052 dude what. Are you aware of bastion sylvio Tristan??
@@runerune7052it literally boils down to ‘skill issue’
She was my fav back then
I like that crazy idea you wrote for a second.
Mai was very underutilized in the series. I feel like her skills were on par with the likes of yugi, kaiba, and joey while also having an interesting story.
People actually liked Mai? I can't think of any interesting female characters in OG yugioh
Uh ishizu
Dark Magician Girl? >_>
They make a reboot of the original yugioh series to better development of Mai and others.
Mai was the group's big sister
3:09 this is better than titans s2 2003.
Correction, her first duel in battle city was not against marik. It was against that Vadam guy who uses ninjas.
her entire "tragic backstory" during Waking The Dragons was complete garbage
down and out? lost in a rainy storm drain? what the hell? she wasn't poor or homeless!
and where did the burning hatred for Joey come from.
some idiot clearly came in and just wanted a shift in mood/story, so they destroyed her
and, are we gonna talk about her TERRIBLE, AWFUL second voice actor? I mean, come ON, she's brutal!
The funny thing is Mai's duel with Yami Marik also made Yami Marik just look pathetic. Same with his duel with Joey, he only beat the two of them on a technicality. Makes you wonder how he got to be as threatening as he is, he's even the first to lose all of his life points in the four-way duel. Very much comes across as move aside junior, the grownups (Kaiba and Atem) are talking. At least it took an Egyptian God Card to take down Yami Bakura, he actually had Atem on the ropes there.
It is amazing how he also only won the duel against Yami Bakura because he had the most jank counter-counter strategy on hand.
@@lpfan4491
Yeah, Yami Bakura came across as much more competent than Yami Marik.
After watching this video, I realize just how much the studio should have done a better job at wrapping up Mai’s character development.
YES YES YES, so I am not the only fan who feels her character was done dirty. I wrote a review on Jobbers in yugioh for tiger media network on this topic
i agree mai joining kaiba and yugi in a 3 on 1 agaisnt dartz would have been thematically fitting
and it woudl fit the hole theme of the duel with dartz your not beating him with out the 3 knights his deck is not just hax its flat out impossible to beat with out the knights
She’s beautiful ❤
You should do a video on the wasted potential of Bonz, Rex and Weevil 😁
Maybe one day 👀
How can you waste something that doesn't even exist though 🤣?
She dueled twice in battle city. The movie star ninja guy.
Nah I disagree
And at least fillers added her since she stops appearing in the manga and try to make deck a badass.
Is there anything new to even say about Mai?
This topic has been beaten down to the ground
I’d like to see a female as the main character to be honest. I love the guys being the main lead but that’s just the old stereotype of men are the leaders and women are the cheerleaders. Mai had a lot of talent and she could Have bear Marik hands down only to be egged on and took the bait.
Same goes for Alexis, sure u see her win a few duels but she loses every other time.
Akiza actually kicked ass and was fantastic who I felt got the respect she deserved as a duelist and female character.
Mai brought sexappeal and strong beautiful female cards to the show which i loved💅🏻 From all the Side Charakters she was the one with the most duels or episodes shown on screen.. Not important enough to be a main character but more important than weevil, rex, mako and so on..
I will never forgive them for not having Mai show up for the ceremonial dual. That would’ve been perfect for her character. The dub also cut Mai’s intro out during the opening theme of battle city. 🙄
She’s also smash bros player Joey is like 16 Mai is like 24
The Yugioh anime is very sexist machism, the female protagonists always give way to the main character of the series, may is one my favorites female character of serie but unfortunately the anime didn't value the character.
What Mai to lil yugi after he lost is what Joey did to Atem during orichalcos after he lost.
LONG LIVE ABSOLUTE WORLD PEACE
Mai should’ve had a proper ending to her arc after the waking the dragons storyline
I didn’t grow up with Yu-Gi-Oh nor do I know anything about it. I only watched this because she’s hot
It was nice to have Mai as a character & her choices made sense but her story should've ended properly. Perhaps she could've helped in the capsule monsters arc or against Bakura when Atem got his memories back. She was the only female character who was around enough & actually did things
My girl Mai truly deserved so much better… Though to be fair, the same could be said for 90% of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! cast.
Go is probably the other character in Yugioh history that went through one of the worst character Assassination.
Depending on how you define the term, Yuzu moreso.
@@christopherb501bastion
Misawa was done so dirty it’s not even funny. He’s done worse than Yuzu
Sevens did good to start with the girls but it went so off hill after a while. Plus worst Yu-Gi-Oh protagonist ever in yuga who is basically joey while Luke is the real protagonist since he gets all the actual wins in story.
HOW DO YOU MESS UP YUGA TEAMING WITH TWO ANTAGONIST? seriously that's like Yugi marik and kaiba needing to team up to duel tea joey and Tristan or something and losing
Yuga doesn't suck for losing a bunch, not by a long shot. If THAT were true, you should hate Yuma for losing 24 times in a row that one time, or hate Joey for, regardless of continuity, consistently losing to Yugi and/or Tea by the time the story's gotten going.
Did Yuga lose too much? Yes. Is he a bad character for it? Abso-fracking-lutely not.
@@christopherb501 oh I don't like those two either. Yuma is more on how Yugi should be and Yugi is basically a walking ad for his stuff as Yami keeps coming back after every send up.
Lucky you chose the ones I dislike the most in terms of duels so it was easy to respond thanks
@@ivanbluecoolHating on Yuma for the what the writers did on purpose to show hos growth as a duelist is actually insane
Come to think of it......this brings up a good point about the yugioh anime being just a tad misogynistic. In fact, based on what was presented in this video, it almost feels like whoever was in charge of making the anime might've made it that way on purpose.
Romin managed to beat the bad duelist allegations by defeating the main character and rival.
Aoi faced playmaker who never lost onscreen. She dueled spectre who had his debut as secondary villain so he could hardly lose. She lost to soulburner who had the ultimate plot armor because he had Flame who was intended to be absorbed by bohman. She lost to bohman who can be seen as the primary or secondary antagonist of season 2. she lost to Ai who like ropoppi got buffed to death out of nowhere. He is also the seasons primary antagonist.
Aoi had the hardest matchups.
No offense vs sevens but it's duelists hold no candle vs the other shows characters. The strongest fenale duelists are aoi, ghost girl and sherry. Sherry was stronger than crow who was part of 5D's main trio.
@mariowarion None of those duelists you mentioned have good win records. Also Ghost Gal? You mean the person who could never win a duel to someone other than Brave Max, including someone who never dueled before? No way Romin is weaker than that.
@@apollojustice5589 you act like sevens duelists are as skilled as vrains ones. Many people consider vrains duels to be boring because of all anime they are the closest to the meta. The meta played by real life players who are much superior to the anime duelists. You completely dismiss that competition matters. The characters of shows vary compared to other shows duelists in terms of strength. Or are DM duelists as good as Zexal ones? Are GX duelists as good as arc v ones? Can judai now beat reiji?
Your win record argument is very bad.
shark has a worse win record than kaito. Kaito barely got past mizael. It was a very close duel on the moon with kaito even getting a new number by a exterior force which ended up making the difference. Nasch's level meanwhile was very close to zexal III in his final duel vs yuma. Let's rank the barian emperors. 1. nasch. 2. vector. Had the power of 5 barians + don thousands powers. 3. mizael. Kaito would have lost in season 1 if yuma used zexal. Kaito won with 200 life points after all. Kaito is nowhere near nasch or yuma if he uses zexal III. Both duelists have worse win records than kaito, yet they left him in the dust in season 2.
Yusei has a amazing win record. Z-one is still the strongest duelist in 5D's. You now say that yusei defeated z-one. What did yusei have help wise? Aporia gave him data on z-one's deck. Aporia made it possible for yusei to duel z-one in a riding duel format which yusei is at his strongest. Riding duels give yusei a lot of drawing power. Shooting star dragon can only be summoned in a riding duel with yusei heavily relying on it after he obtained it. Antinomy gave him a hint that there is something beyond accel synchro. Yusei knowing that z-one is basically himself, made it possible for him to predict z-one's attack patterns. Z-one could do that as well but only to a certain point because of yusei's development coming into fruition in this duel. Yusei's friends gave him a total of 6 extra deck monsters while also lending him their signer powers. The crimson dragon helped him, a god with omnipotence and omnipresence. Despite all of that yusei was about to give up with his father literally punching sense into him. So 8 people and a god who makes the egypt god trio look like fodder. Put that help away and z-one would have destroyed yusei. But I guess anzu and rin having a better win record than z-one makes them superior to him according to your logic. Reira is now stronger than reiji I guess. She never lost after all. Reiji meanwhile lost to zarc and yuya.
Playmaker has a perfect win record onscreen. He was powerless vs peak bohman. Ai had to sacrifice his original self, Ghost girl had to, akira had to and the remaining three members of hanoi as well. All to just destroy bohman's neuron network which was so op that playmaker himself said that he is powerless against bohman as long as he had it. So 6 outsiders had to lay down their life/consciousnesses for playmaker to win. Bohman already tied with playmaker before his upgrade and on top of that absorbing 5 ignises.
Yami bakura has a really bad winning record. He won like one duel against fodder. Is jounochi now stronger than yami bakura? Yami bakura overwhelmed kaiba and nearly defeated yugi muto in the final arc.
You tell me romin can beat ghost girl in a master duel? Luke is a S tier duelist in sevens and he said himself that he does not peform well in master duels. But yes romin does. You also act like rush duels are as complex as master duels. It's not like yugioh's master duel format is among the hardest cardgames to get into. Who did ghost girl face? Playmaker, revolver, blood sheppard (lightning said his team would probably lose if he would join team playmaker) and ropoppi (would have beaten soulburner if it wasn't for a malfunction). Like Aoi she faced strong competition. Again. Competition matters. Izayoi gets praised to hell for beating fodder in season 1 and misty in season 2. those duelists are fodder compared to the duelists aoi and ghost girl faced. Or do you want to tell me that misty has a shot at beating Revolver and playmaker? In which universe?
Win record barely matters in terms of ranking the strongest duelists. If I rank the 5D's duelists yusei will not be in the top 3 because there is no way he beats z-one, paradox and aporia in a 1v1. Paradox completely destroyed yusei in a riding duel despite using no of his cards we later see (yusei did not recognize them) and he needed two other protagonsists to win. Aporia nearly won a 1v3 vs jack, rua and ruka. Jack was already close to yusei's level. Rua also evolved into a signer in this duel. Heck I even rank jack above yusei given how he dominated yuseininnthe final duel with yusei heavuly relying on luck. Jack's training clearly came into fruition. You could even consider ranking godwin higher than yusei because yusei's growth does not make up for two duelists on jack's and crow's level. That's like saying that yami yugi can beat dartz if he had the gods. Like that could compensate for kaiba. Crow has a great win record. He is 10th at best
Ghost girl destroys everyone in sevens. It's not even close. Heck, even gx duelists are stronger than sevens duelists. We talk about a show where even pegasus is very strong. It's not like mai defeated him so hard that the duel did not satisfy her. Major dm duelists are literally god tier in GX.
@@mariowarion I'm not reading all of that.
@@apollojustice5589 i make it short: win record is not everything. You dismiss that Competition matters. You dismiss that the overall character strength also varies overall in shows. Like vrains duelists are obviously better than DM ones. You dismiss that the master duel format is different from rush duels. The master duel format is more complex. Luke is a S tier duelist in sevens and he himself said that he does not perform well in master duels.
Ghost girl faced playmaker, revolver, blood sheppard and ropoppi. Ropoppi could have beaten soulburner if it wasn't for malfunction. Are yuga and luke as strong as playmaker, ropoppi and revolver? Ghost girl faced strong competition, much stronger one than romin. Put ghost girl in sevens and she destroys everyone.
To give you a exampe, why win record barely matters. Kaito has a great win record in zexal. Shark has a worse one. Same for yuma. Who is stronger? Nasch who was close to zexal III level or kaito who barely got past mizael? Who is stronger? Zexal III yuma or kaito? Kaito barely won vs yuma in season 1 with 200 life points. Yuma would have won with zexal I.
Another example. Yusei needed aporia's, antinomy's, his father's, 5 other signers and the crimson dragons power to beat z-one. Would he have won without all this help? No. Yusei has the better win record. Are anzu and rin now stronger than z-one because they have a better win record?
Miss her old voice actor 😒
Same. Her VA in Waking the Dragons was/is painful to hear. Same with Mokuba's Season 5 VA (At least the VA returned for the Darkside of Dimensions movie).
Now you know, why i prefer the 1998 anime instead of the Duel Monsters.
Mai was shown to be a better duelist than Yugi. She would've won their duel had Atem not taken over and used his plot powers to draw Black Luster Ritual card at the last minute.
Mai is my YGO Waifu for Life
Mai losing to Tea only shows how broken Tea’s deck was
Undefeated power of friendship for a reason!
Actually, Mai surrendered against Tea. Or did you mean that as a joke?
@@trentonalbers3981 joke lol
@2Fine4YouBabyGirl: Gotcha.
Actually, Mai stopped the duel after that Tea managed to defeated her Harpie Lady, and with difficulty.
Showing that Mai wasn't dueling seriously, she was simply testing her.
I liked the Orichalcos arc except for the character assassination they did with Yami Yugi.
This arc treated him like the character development he had up to the end of Battle City didn't happen. What's worse is that he played the Seal of Orichalcos when there was nothing at stake other than losing.
At least with Duelist Kingdom, Yugi's Grandpa's soul was at stake which is why there is _some_ justification for throwing Kaiba under the bus, but with this arc, he played it just because he didn't want to lose and put one of their souls at risk for no good reason.
I think orichalcos was necessary for his character notice most of the time when yugi/atem lost yugi was the one in control with Rebecca yugi was the one dueling when Joey was under mind control of marik it was yugi heck yugi had to pretty much stop atem from landing the attack in duelist kingdom because it would have killed Kaiba point is atem seems like he hates losing and waking the dragons was pretty much atem learning to take a lost
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As I said, Atem ALREADY went through his character arc when Yugi wouldn't let him play back in Duelist Kingdom. The Orichalcos arc ignored that and it ALSO ignored the significance of the Millennium items.
The 7 Items were powerful Mystical artifacts that could only be countered by each other. Dartz's gang literally insulted the Millennium Puzzle and then followed that up by saying that their little pebble (the Orichacos stone) was more powerful than an item. So you're telling me that a small pebble is more powerful than Artifacts crafted from magecraft? That's the writers of the arc just disrespecting the writing that existed up to that point.
What the arc COULD have done was explain that the Orichalcos and its stones had to be countered by a SPECIFIC magic that was wielded by Atlantis just as the Millennium items had to be countered by other items. The stones aren't more powerful than the items, but it's just that Egyptian magic isn't compatible with Atlantean magic and therefore aren't viable counters to the Orichalcos stones. They could have done that, but didn't and even added insult to injury by making the Items a laughing stock during the arc.
The arc has a good concept, but poor execution. If they wanted Atem to become corrupted by the Seal of Orichalcos, there should have been actual stakes such as holding someone hostage and guaranteeing their safety ONLY if Atem played it. Instead, there were NO stakes and he put one of their souls at risk for NO GOOD reason.
You can like the arc if you want, but don't pretend that it doesn't have its flaws and it could have done better.
I disagree with your take on the anime version at duelest kingdom. That was her trying to snap Yugi out of it. Don't forget, she let Tai win.
I missed Mai after all of this T-T
I think in the anime she actually would've beat Atem in Duelist Kingdom
They could've shortened Battle City HUGELY, which would've helped the story.
Regardless of the flaws in the writing Mai valentine is iconic and a cool character. Only problem is not being as kind to yugi in giving her star chips and losing to tea should have just let her win. The filler was really like bad for her character but her design was cool and she was using evil magic
I hate how when people make Mai decks, it is always a combo of Harpie Lady and Amazoness
I mean....If it's Not gonna be that, Then what's your definition of a "Mai deck" ?
I really hate how badly she was written. I thunk it could have been such a neat twist in season 4 if it turns out that the 3rd dragon was Mai and not Joey as everyone expected and she has an active role in beating Dartz.
Or what about a 4th hidden dragon, in another room?
Bit off topic, but when I first saw Mai's design, I thought she was just yugi disguised as a girl.
is waking the dragon really filler arc???? it was one of the best arcs i cant believe it
Your far too harsh, I never read the manga so I’ve only watched the tv series yet I still thought mai was awesome, do I think she involved enough? No, but in terms of what they did with her on screen while she was there I don’t have any complaints.
She is the moment, icon, gay icon, the original Harpie Angel
She's not gay😡
Go Rush treats their female characters the best. Sevens did a good job too with the female characters.
Really screwed over Mai badly in Season 4. Should've gone into Modeling instead of dueling
I really loved her and they nuked her.
And that dub voice in Waking the Dragons was a crime against nature 😂