Off The Record: Ranking Asian Fighting Styles from Best to Worst

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  • @geezjunior
    @geezjunior Рік тому +92

    Nick just slowly becoming my favorite 😂 he represents too 🇲🇽

    • @drodjr9715
      @drodjr9715 Рік тому +13

      I was like ain’t no way they know Peso Pluma 😂

  • @UrbanLegend2k11
    @UrbanLegend2k11 Рік тому +88

    It's crazy how nice he seems, but this dudes a machine.

    • @GYSMelanie5
      @GYSMelanie5 Рік тому +3

      Absolutely

    • @kaptainzdragon5478
      @kaptainzdragon5478 Рік тому +6

      Glad he's on our side

    • @jw7268
      @jw7268 Рік тому +10

      Yeah daily reminder don't confuse kindness with weakness he'd lay our asses out 😂

    • @thisfuknguy
      @thisfuknguy Рік тому +1

      A lot of really powerful or strong dudes are super nice. Look at Joe rogan, nfl lineman, some of the world’s strongest men, etc

    • @scolesdang
      @scolesdang Рік тому +1

  • @ClownAl3n
    @ClownAl3n Рік тому +32

    Ron is actually a comedian too!
    Damnnn I miss this guy.
    He could physically kill you or kill you with laughers.
    Pick your poison 😂

  • @donmoxie6745
    @donmoxie6745 Рік тому +48

    Hapkido is really interesting. It is like a hybrid martial art that has techniques found in judo, jiu jitsu, and tae kwon do. It was created by a Korean who was moved to Japan during Ilje Gangjeom-gi. Well balanced modern martial art discipline born directly out of historical circumstance. It is is Robert Whittaker's base I believe.

    • @jhc577
      @jhc577 Рік тому

      i thought robert whittaker was karate? Unless the commentators got it wrong

    • @dare_he_is
      @dare_he_is Рік тому +3

      @@jhc577he did do karate but transitioned into Hapkido and that’s what helped him evolve

  • @Noctis_Versus
    @Noctis_Versus Рік тому +55

    I love Ron’s fighting stories lol

  • @Uhhho
    @Uhhho Рік тому +5

    I boxed for 3 years now competitively n I feel that confidence too for sure just knowing that you practice this craft more than the average person will put you above a ton of people

  • @f111jiii
    @f111jiii Рік тому +18

    one of the better jkn episodes! ron is great and insightful.

  • @Yeebes
    @Yeebes Рік тому +9

    Peso pluma and Ron would’ve been such a cool story

  • @magnumbrahms5339
    @magnumbrahms5339 Рік тому +12

    There are KOs in sumo. the slap and arm hits in sumo KOs. Hakuho the Sumo GOAT also got a signature hand slap.

  • @jamesmejia3605
    @jamesmejia3605 Рік тому +2

    It’s always cool when Ron stops by 🤘🏽

  • @xronxronx
    @xronxronx Рік тому +3

    Martial arts means military arts. The number one taught martial arts to the US military is Kali (Escrima or Arnis) Filipino Martial Arts, FMA. Similar to the fighting style used in Bourne Identity.

  • @186FreakinCool
    @186FreakinCool Рік тому +9

    Does anyone remember the other videos where Ron talks about his bouncer stories? I remember he's told other fight stories outside of being a fighter before

  • @tftsheepcup
    @tftsheepcup Рік тому +2

    Wait I saw Ron the other day in Irvine at an Albertsons. Was wondering who he was cuz people were taking pics with him and he was holding like a championship belt. That’s so dope

  • @JD_xcvi
    @JD_xcvi Рік тому +6

    I definitely like the fighting style from The Raid movies called pencak silat Iko Uwais the lead actor is the movie he makes the style look so fluid

    • @michaelmou5938
      @michaelmou5938 Рік тому +1

      Traditional it's not as brutal and as close as depicted in the movie. They played it up for the movie is what the actors themselves have said. But great movie

    • @indiangum4691
      @indiangum4691 Рік тому

      ​@@michaelmou5938 I said the same thing and I also said the real martial artist is Joe Taslim and then some Indonesian guy was so mad telling me how dangerous silat is cause it have eye poking and biting lol like dude in such fight a judoka would throw you with a folded hand that will break you, a Muay Thai will kick your guts instead of your legs😂 his excuse was similar to some wingchun practioners

  • @reddyaimfire94
    @reddyaimfire94 Рік тому +6

    El compa nick is quickly becoming a favorite! 😂🇲🇽

  • @kiarademoner
    @kiarademoner Рік тому +11

    Ron had me cracking up 😂

  • @maigrrr
    @maigrrr Рік тому +4

    Please have him on more!

    • @bethnichols2875
      @bethnichols2875 Рік тому +2

      He has been on many times. Ron has led and still leads and interesting life.

    • @maigrrr
      @maigrrr Рік тому +3

      @@bethnichols2875 I know he has but not recently. It’s been a couple of years since he’s been on.

    • @scolesdang
      @scolesdang Рік тому +2

  • @pkruez2089
    @pkruez2089 Рік тому +5

    Ron, the Asian Dos Equis guy. Most interesting man in the world.

  • @GYSMelanie5
    @GYSMelanie5 Рік тому +7

    I could listen to Ron ALL DAY about fighting. Nick was HILARIOUS per usual 🤣. L. Ron Hubbard 😂😂😂😂!

  • @Dimaz42
    @Dimaz42 Рік тому +10

    why do some of the toughest mofos look so innocent like Ron? 😅

  • @user-ho8eb6bq6q
    @user-ho8eb6bq6q Рік тому +8

    i never say anything good about ryan but that "in the clear" trunks for l. ron hubbard was hilarious and nobody caught it...clear...that is just a perfect damn scientology joke

    • @mangotar0
      @mangotar0 Рік тому +2

      That caught me by surprise as well🤣

    • @LaddRusso91
      @LaddRusso91 Рік тому +2

      Nick caught it

  • @RANTinASIA
    @RANTinASIA Рік тому +4

    Ron is such a cool dude.

  • @Jiminie53421
    @Jiminie53421 Рік тому +10

    Bro you guys should have done the tier list!! From like S tier to F tier cause even if it’s a bit late, it was was a huge trend everyone did

  • @kakuella
    @kakuella Рік тому +8

    🏁Random Fact of the day: Taekwondo you see these days are more of sports than it's original form. The og war performed taekwondo is barely passing down in korea now days because no parent want their kids to get all effed up from the class. Everything has to evolved into today's needs or else it will be forgotten. And this is what's happening to og taekwondo.

    • @rodya_malverde
      @rodya_malverde Рік тому

      It's introduction to the Olympics watered it down

    • @blemishednicely8402
      @blemishednicely8402 Рік тому

      Tae Kwon Do is the civilian sports form Grand Master Chang made
      Teng Su Do is the martial art form he made beforehand, when he was General Chang.
      There is a VERY big difference, indeed~

  • @mov744
    @mov744 Рік тому +2

    12:59 I wonder if Ryan was thinking about Kabbadi? It’s the Indian sport where teams of body builders run across a line and try to touch as many people from the other team and make it back across before being wrestled down by the other team.

  • @tinabeee7350
    @tinabeee7350 Рік тому +5

    Love Ron’s stories 😂

  • @p.l.5860
    @p.l.5860 Рік тому +17

    Judo. Thank you. Clearly this guy is an expert at martial arts.

    • @lotusblack704
      @lotusblack704 Рік тому

      he wanted to say BJJ but its not asian lol so ig by default its judo roots

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda Рік тому +2

      Also because the old Japanese Jujutsu styles are proper war-arts that give less-to-no regards to the uke's wellbeing after the throws/takedown/holds/chokes/locks/ etc. Some are still being taught, though.

    • @indiangum4691
      @indiangum4691 Рік тому +2

      ​@@lotusblack704 Bjj evolved but it was started by Japanese immigrants in Brazil so it's still Japanese. Also all the locks and chocks of bjj are from jiu-jitsu and judo

  • @Mikado80813
    @Mikado80813 Рік тому +3

    There are Knockouts in Sumo. You are allowed slaps and headbuts in sumo. I seen one match where one of the guys had a huge cut on his forehead

  • @beadsandbeard
    @beadsandbeard Рік тому

    one of the most satisfying things is hearing someone speak insightfully about their passion

  • @paolacruz6102
    @paolacruz6102 Рік тому +2

    I loooove nick for knowing who peso pluma is❤❤❤❤

  • @nano_chesus8933
    @nano_chesus8933 Рік тому +3

    No way it would be crazy to see Ron at a peso pluma concert

  • @HasanPikerIsADouche
    @HasanPikerIsADouche Рік тому +8

    That Netflix show is "Sanctuary" and it's not a bad watch... There's some over the top dynamics with the Mc and his mom, but it's essentially a coming of age story with a sumo backdrop

    • @shaggyguy662
      @shaggyguy662 Рік тому

      Sumo is pretty badass even in back in the day. In bloodsport the sumo wrestler only person got uppercut in the ding. Coeperia in anime is pretty tough but they do it 10 times faster in anime.

  • @Ysumguy
    @Ysumguy Рік тому +1

    As a long time fan…….
    Can I cast a vote to add in another mic and camera for you guys to use the 4th side of that table (add in 2 more people)???? Lol. I felt like we needed Joe and David, but we wanted to keep Ryan and the beautiful Lionhart there too!

  • @LPSOLID
    @LPSOLID Рік тому +13

    I think for practical martial arts, there's Kali (?), the Filipino knife fighting. I feel that's kinda on the deadlier level (because --knife hhahaha). It popped up on my YT shorts last week because was watching too much Cobra Kai vids and went down the rabbit hole 😂

    • @fizkallnyeilsem
      @fizkallnyeilsem Рік тому +5

      I once heard from a martial arts practictioner that was experienced in all existing MAs present. He said Kali is one of the worst self defense fighting styles known... Thats because Kali's core idea is using a knife to strike the vulnerable points of ur eneys, in the jugular vein n stuff. He said its more of a guide for offensive, for killing than self defense cus it involves worryingly harming your eneys that it goes in grey areas of the self def laws in most countrys. (Unless if the knife is replaced with a baton for considerations). Bcus he said that defense is supposed to be a prepared counter againts the harmer, not being apart and violently endangering the harmer as well.

    • @fizkallnyeilsem
      @fizkallnyeilsem Рік тому +1

      So in a way that makes Filipino Kali more badass cus of it being more of a guide of being smart n deadly.😂

    • @alvinsmith3894
      @alvinsmith3894 Рік тому +1

      @@fizkallnyeilsem Kali isn't just knives and weapons though. There's a lot of joint breaking in Kali.

    • @fizkallnyeilsem
      @fizkallnyeilsem Рік тому +1

      @@alvinsmith3894 no not really, kali prioritizes more on parrying the strike of armed opponents, see a typical kali spar in yt, most are equipped in sticks, n its not everytime a defender can bring that in dire moments. It also Doesnt cover much emphasis on bare hand to hand scenarios. Not to mention the questionable unarmed slap block method, in self defense againts public attackers not every bad guy abides to just routine fair hand to hand, some use kicks, short knives, close quarter pistol draw n play dirty n quick. Kali doesnt cover these concerns incomparison to other martial arts.

    • @alvinsmith3894
      @alvinsmith3894 Рік тому +3

      @@fizkallnyeilsem ​ You don't know much about kali. I train in PH. We were taught how to break momentum by stepping on their knee when they advanced, this also aid in breaking the knee/shin. Kali is a literal anything goes martial arts. Do you even know anything about it really? Do you expect kali practitioners to walk around with sticks on them or what? Again. You have no idea what kali is. Look up older videos of kali if you're tired of modern bullshido in western kali. I'm in the Philippines. I don't train with the idiots who thinks that artifacts protects them from bullets, I'm learning from a visayan master. Other martial arts doesn't cover the fact that using objects is better than using bare fists. Look up Doug Marcaida for information. Also. again if you think it's THAT ineffective then ask why several armies in the world are using it.

  • @r.sakarollsafe1285
    @r.sakarollsafe1285 Рік тому +3

    Ron..knowing you like Muay Thai.. what do you think about Johan Ghazali? the One Championship Muay Thai fighter who finished a fight in 16 second and he's 16 years old. It's wild to me a teenager handing asses to adults who are in their prime

    • @scolesdang
      @scolesdang Рік тому

      I’m happy him! I’m not too hung up on age. I’m fighting people half my age 😅

  • @lil_rata6994
    @lil_rata6994 Рік тому +3

    yo Ron is wiiilld and this man has the most contagious smile

  • @Yungdaggerwewe
    @Yungdaggerwewe Рік тому +1

    😂😂😂I lost it as soon as nick said “whaaaa ima go hangout w peso pluma”💀💀💀💀😂😂

  • @CuongChanster
    @CuongChanster Рік тому +1

    Did not expect that ending stories.😂

  • @aarongonzalez1489
    @aarongonzalez1489 Рік тому +4

    Nick is fucking hilarious 😫

  • @marcomiller5146
    @marcomiller5146 2 місяці тому

    About the sumo topic there are knockouts in sumo and its brutal, its from the inital charge and headbutt

  • @ShogekiSumo
    @ShogekiSumo Рік тому +1

    Let’s go with the Immediate SUMO W!!!!!

  • @my_other_side473
    @my_other_side473 Рік тому +1

    Filipino Martial Arts - FMA like Arnis, Kali, is good for street fights and being use by Hollywood action movies. Because but it won't be use in MMA because it's a weapon base martial arts. With Knifes.

    • @xronxronx
      @xronxronx Рік тому

      Kali is weapon based but the same techniques are taught without weapons. Kali is also a deadly martial art taught in the military.

  • @Joshua-mv5zp
    @Joshua-mv5zp Рік тому +4

    Can we get Ron and nick in a jujitsu match otr?

    • @scolesdang
      @scolesdang Рік тому +1

      I will get choked out 😂

    • @Joshua-mv5zp
      @Joshua-mv5zp Рік тому

      @@scolesdang lol let’s go champ!!

  • @DeeManGamez
    @DeeManGamez Рік тому +7

    For East Asian Martial arts I think top 5 most effective are
    1. Muay Thai
    2. Judo
    3. Karate
    4. Sanshou/Sanda
    5. Taekwondo
    At the end of the day depends on how well the fighter uses different techniques and applies in changing situations.
    IMO most ineffective are Traditional Kung Fu styles and Aikido

    • @kuya5k
      @kuya5k Рік тому

      accurate

    • @Kogasengaha_Hishoshi
      @Kogasengaha_Hishoshi Рік тому +1

      I think that only 5% of traditional martial arts is only useful from EVERYTHING into 1 lol Just gotta nitpick everything for useful stuff into 1 pool

    • @blemishednicely8402
      @blemishednicely8402 Рік тому

      @d_won1
      Aikido isn't bad, per se.
      But it is a grappling technique, mostly...you should preferably know how to grapple as well as strike, so distance/positioning doesn't matter so much (to be at a disadvantage, etc)
      They all have their flaws...like kick-boxers are typically weak to low attacks, etc
      That being said, Aikido really isn't that good these days, "New Style" specifically (they don't teach "Old Style" anymore, too many people got F*d up in the dojo's & it is far superior to "New"). Also, the entire series of "urra" move sets are often considered not real Aikido ("omote" is proper Aikido)...as urra is a compensation for when you already pooched your entry/did it wrong & can no longer do it in omote (urra almost always exposes your back as well, making it not only a compensation, but dangerous as well)
      That being said, ALL combat scenarios are "theoretical".
      I cannot count the # of ppl I have seen call how their fight will go. It is only matched by the # of fights that didn't go exactly how they expected~

    • @teovu5557
      @teovu5557 Рік тому

      how is karate rated higher then sanda? lmao

  • @wxtrx5428
    @wxtrx5428 Рік тому +1

    Can’t wait for when nick host an episode 😂

  • @tjmizuno
    @tjmizuno Рік тому +1

    Have you guys heard of Kujukenbo... Created in the projects in Hawaii in the 1940's... Joe should look into it's roots

  • @Juve_Uke
    @Juve_Uke Рік тому +1

    Didn't Ron beat Brandon Moreno early in his career? Would love to hear him talk about that!

  • @Pharaoh_The_Great
    @Pharaoh_The_Great Рік тому +2

    Muay Thai, ninjutsu and snake style

  • @HIGSOFX
    @HIGSOFX Рік тому +1

    Would love to meet Ron’s son in a video☺️

  • @OblskOne
    @OblskOne Рік тому +1

    more of this.

  • @marvelmalang4955
    @marvelmalang4955 Рік тому +1

    As someone who trains BJJ, the best thing to do is run or get a gun.

  • @indiangum4691
    @indiangum4691 Рік тому +2

    Thw whole mma thing is made of Asian martial arts Judo, jiu-jitsu and muay thai. No matter who or what color when they finish their opponents with submission it's always a judo jiu-jitsu thing. And locks like gago plato no matter how hard they try to latinized it we all know the original name which is in Japanese. Also every non striker either learn muay thai or does a fake muay thai stance in mma because when you have the muay thai stance your opponent's always nervous about your kicks

    • @blemishednicely8402
      @blemishednicely8402 Рік тому

      It was basically the Gracie family Jujitsu that began MMA/OG UFC.
      I get the distinct impression that is largely where the impression Jujitsu is Latin came from. Baffling how people assert Judo is Japanese (Jigaro Kano), but Jujitsu isn't, I know.
      Like...the NAME is a clue, for one...
      But yes, I totally agree, 100%~

    • @indiangum4691
      @indiangum4691 Рік тому

      @@blemishednicely8402 "jiu-jitsu is latin" lol are you serious 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @nigl2807
    @nigl2807 Рік тому +2

    Isnt the real answer Ninjitsu? :P

  • @jdniuz1224
    @jdniuz1224 Рік тому +1

    "The Bluetooth ones"...lol

  • @DemonFox369
    @DemonFox369 Рік тому +2

    No unarmed, adult man is beating 10 6th graders with knives, always run away.

  • @user-zp4de5lq9i
    @user-zp4de5lq9i Рік тому +1

    There are knock outs in sumo. During covid I’ve got into sumo and that shite is bruuuutal, mandem was throwing elbows and shit.

  • @Islandfist
    @Islandfist 6 місяців тому

    Daidojuku, Judo and Muay Thai

  • @jugemujugemu3728
    @jugemujugemu3728 Рік тому

    I remember when jk went to japan and david had to "fight" a sumo wrestler. David looked so small compared to them

  • @Titantitan001
    @Titantitan001 Рік тому +1

    Hapkido is actually good

  • @OpXG4mer
    @OpXG4mer Рік тому

    none of these martial arts matter when it comes to real street fights, even if u unload on someone using these styles... if someone can throw it back u stand no chance💯

  • @DemonFox369
    @DemonFox369 Рік тому

    How about a 450 pound kickboxer versus a 170 pound sumo wrestler?

  • @genomagsipoc8501
    @genomagsipoc8501 Рік тому +2

    Nicee

  • @LydiaWin
    @LydiaWin Рік тому +1

    Word of the day is crooked😂

  • @0kipanderz
    @0kipanderz 11 місяців тому

    Tell me more about hiphopkido✨

  • @DemonFox369
    @DemonFox369 Рік тому +1

    How would Ron fight a chimpanzee or mountain lion?

  • @moivisualz4557
    @moivisualz4557 Рік тому +1

    What rock lee used? I think that one will win

  • @elijahrman2015
    @elijahrman2015 3 місяці тому

    What happened when you tried to spar Nam Phan, Ron?

  • @Mviews-nu1vj
    @Mviews-nu1vj Рік тому

    it really depends on who are you fighting against...there's too many variables...let's say you are a muay thai and you are facing against a boxer like terence crawford or manny pacquiao...a boxer that has power and speed...I think they can knock you out the same time you throw your legs out or knocks you out faster because of their speed and power plus in a street fight you won't wear gloves...Imagine a boxer hits you without gloves...Legs maybe has the range but I think a fist is more faster than legs...So it really depends on who you are fighting against...

  • @pingpong5877
    @pingpong5877 Рік тому +1

    Is every Asian kung-fu a shoto?

  • @ninjaml1011
    @ninjaml1011 3 місяці тому

    13:07 Turkish oil wrestling

  • @underconstruction8404
    @underconstruction8404 Рік тому +1

    Lethwei mixed with Sambo 🥋 😅

  • @MuhammadAshraffimreallysorry
    @MuhammadAshraffimreallysorry Рік тому +1

    Silat

  • @willcee4966
    @willcee4966 Рік тому

    Ive definitely seen Sumo knockouts on the internet

  • @XaViEr3520
    @XaViEr3520 Рік тому +1

    Woooooo

  • @DemonFox369
    @DemonFox369 Рік тому

    All martial arts would be more effective if hits to the crotch, throat/neck, or eye were legal (used in a serious situation) or if arm breaks, knee breaks, etc were performed.

  • @laateenreactieachter
    @laateenreactieachter Рік тому +1

    Kravmaga is from israel which is technically asia🤷‍♂️

  • @loveaintfree1409
    @loveaintfree1409 Рік тому +2

    Muay Thai low kick is extremely dangerous and hurts like hell. They actually train the shin with glass bottle and hitting the bat harden their shin yikes !!

  • @hobimonieforlife3204
    @hobimonieforlife3204 Рік тому

    Arnis/Kali .. period

  • @N-xi2zh
    @N-xi2zh 6 місяців тому

    Gotta pair Aikido with other arts.. Some more striking and ground fighting. OR MMA.

  • @hobet
    @hobet Рік тому

    Yoow physical 100 was a great show. They're prepping for season 2 now 💪

  • @Zhcwu
    @Zhcwu Рік тому +2

    oh god whale tail..... Nick xD

  • @bobbyalistor
    @bobbyalistor Рік тому

    when they put the condition into no rules; wouldnt the fatal strikes styles like Silat and Kali would be on top?

    • @indiangum4691
      @indiangum4691 Рік тому

      If the rules were kill or die even Muay Thai guys will kick your guts instead of legs and punch your throat instead of your face and a judoka can fold your hand and throw which will not only hurt your back but you'll also have a broken arms. I'm sick of people finding excuses for wingchun and silat lmao

  • @CuongChanster
    @CuongChanster Рік тому

    Everyone wants kung-fu fighting

  • @പരുന്ത്
    @പരുന്ത് Рік тому

    The greased up wrestling is probably turkish wrestling.

  • @kjracz15
    @kjracz15 Рік тому

    Ryan, what about Filipino martial arts? 😆

    • @xronxronx
      @xronxronx Рік тому

      Filipino Martial Arts are really meant for killing. Its called Kali, taught to the US military. If you've seen Bourne Identity, thats Kali.

  • @evildyl
    @evildyl Рік тому

    Lethwei is top tier.

  • @IlIlIlllIlIlIllli
    @IlIlIlllIlIlIllli Рік тому +1

    It took me 5 mins in the video befote i found out this mf is wearing camo😅

  • @IceColdVan
    @IceColdVan Рік тому

    Clearly gunfu is the best

  • @khmerboredom4
    @khmerboredom4 Рік тому

    Muay Thai came from Bokator

  • @Yungen15
    @Yungen15 Рік тому +1

    Ngl, I would've taken that peso puma check 😅

  • @blemishednicely8402
    @blemishednicely8402 Рік тому

    Tae Kwan Do is entertaining, but not very good as a martial art...that is because Grand Master Chang made it as a civilian sport format.
    It's original form, made for the Korean Army when he was General Chang, called Teng Su Do (spelling?) is actually pretty effective, as is neither civilian nor sport.
    Aikido is good for grappling, Judo is arguably better. As far as I recall, both styles are somewhat related as their base forms are Aikijujitsu and jujitsu, respectively...
    Jujitsu isn't Brazilian tho...even the naming isn't. I think you are confusing the popularity the Gracie family (who definitely ARE Brazilian) brought to it/Gracie family Jujitsu.
    Maybe I am wrong, but I remember studying Aikido under Shihan Yukio Kawahara, both it's history and style (our dojo had a picture of O' Sensei (Morihei Ueshiba) as well as Jigaro Kano on the wall & he went into that, explaining why we shared a dojo with Judoka, being Aikidoka ourselves (tho he didn't go into the Gracie's, I'm just familiar with them from original UFC etc).

  • @lerrojcv3987
    @lerrojcv3987 Рік тому

    🎉😂😂😂😂😅😅😅

  • @M_Barr84
    @M_Barr84 Рік тому

    Two episodes were they mentioned peso pluma, wtf is going on?

  • @MartyD
    @MartyD Рік тому

    I prefer drunken style

  • @half_plastic2367
    @half_plastic2367 Рік тому

    Wait did he say Krav Maga isn't asian? 🙈

  • @fionnafaye
    @fionnafaye Рік тому +2

    I stopped watching jknews in 2016 and I just learned that Tiff and Case are no longer a part of the crew... I grew up on this show WOW