Agreed! CNW’s last paint scheme was excellent. That seemed to be the case for many railroads in the 90s. As in, they come up with a nice, fresh paint scheme, then immediately get bought out by another railroad…
I really enjoyed watching the footage of the line from Rapid City into Chadron! The variety of C&NW freight cars, with the Continental and ex-Rock Island boxcars in woodchip service, was amazing! And I would like to see video coverage of the Wheeling and Lake Erie line, with their diesel fleet painted in the D&RGW "Action Road" scheme.
I remember driving to Chicago in 1988 and I took a shortcut through Belle Fouche and followed the line mentioned here. I passed through a valley where yellow CNW potash hoppers had derailed and were scattered all over the place. Was CNW in a hurry to clean it up? It sure didn't look like it. The rail was put back in, but the cars just sat there on their sides. I think I counted some 18 to 20 hoppers off the rails and on their sides before I reached Rapid City.
I’ve said it before but the loss of this line is so sad. I’ve hunted between Chadron and Crawford for years near the old line. I’ve seen DM&E and RCPE use it, as well as the GW orange plague. Sure seems like the whole route from Crawford to Norfolk would be a great bypass route. Again, so sad. And, by the way, the UP sucks and so do mergers.
The Cowboy Line indeed would have been a worthy route to save. The soft ground on the PRC Sub is that line’s curse. Minus the Milwaukee Road’s Rapid City main, the Cowboy Line was the only viable alternative. Using a reference from pop culture, “and… it’s gone.” Thank you for the comment.
Thank you, Taylor! Chicago & North Western certainly was a neat railroad. We’re grateful that there are still a few locomotives left in CNW paint. Much better than none!
Hey Chris did you know on the colony line of the CNW there used to be a few branch lines off of the colony line and they went to the towns of deadwood empire/Newell hot springs and jolly dump
@@CVisionProductions1 I would like to know why Genesee & Wyoming Inc. didn’t purchase it and run it? It connects to a line they now control just west of Chadron.
By the time they could have purchased it, most of the line was already gone, unfortunately. The Cowboy Line would have been a good fit for G&W if the route had been viable.
@@CVisionProductions1 not sure if you knew this, but most of the CNW maintenance shop is intact in Chadron. Pretty sure the round table is still there and in use as well. Most of the rail yard is intact and used for storing coal cars. I know they have a high hood sitting in there and possibly an EMD FT sitting there. Thought about going over there to snoop around but haven’t found the time yet.
This is another fallen flag corridor that I traverse on a regular basis. Seems to me, if some of the mega rail carriers would have preserved some of these lines as "congestion relief alternatives". (See also the Milwaukee Road).
You’re right, Arthur. In many cases, railroads today have limited options for detours and rerouting of traffic. But, that’s by design. Removing track seems to be a hobby for the larger railroads. Thank you for your observation.
When I look at it, this video should've been the actual Volume 2 to be released all those years back. Not only folks had the opportunity to witness pure sets of C&NW power before the U.P. takeover in 1995, we also were treated to the sight of EXTRA DELETED scenes from 1989 & 1990 featuring the daily freights that once operated on these routes. Not to mention more additional scenes of GECX SUPER-7 3004 was featured even though it didn't get the chance to pull more cars than it was given at the time being filmed. Out of curiosity, did you folks by chance manage to film GECX 3004 when it was sent to attend COAL train service in the Summer of 1994?
Thank you for another nice comment, Colin. GECX 3010 was seen in Wyoming Coal Trains. 3004 wasn’t alone out there. If you’re interested, 3004 and 3010 were (heavily) rebuilt from Milwaukee Road U30C locomotives. They both ended up in Brazil.
@@CVisionProductions1 Of interest, Brazil is also where a few of the LRCX G.E.'S ended up as well. The GECX leasers were actually common visitors to the C&NW ever since 1993 along with Santa Fe C30-7'S. Most of these spent most of their times working on lease to Southern Pacific during 1992 - 1996.
The Southern Pacific was very power short during that time, as you know. That translated into a very power short Union Pacific post-SP takeover. Catastrophic service disruptions followed. It was not surprising that SP was leasing anything they could get their hands on in the mid-1990s.
@@CVisionProductions1 I agree. Depending on which portion of the SP you were on, you just might spot any FORIEGN visitor from any CLASS 1 or REGIONAL working on SP. The best places to catch rainbow lash-ups were either the SUNSET ROUTE or the CENTRAL CORRIDOR ROUTE with Wisconsin Central & Montana Rail Link being the most unusual visitors during 1992 & 1993.
Yes! The CNW liked to mix it up in the paint booth. You’d often see yellow and green colors that were slightly different from unit to unit, even when they were supposedly wearing the same paint scheme. Add in fading over time, plus the various versions of CNW’s color schemes, and you had some real inconsistency. It’s certainly interesting to examine. Thank you for the comment.
That is correct. The Nebkota made an attempt to keep the Merriman to Chadron portion of the line alive, but couldn’t make a go of it. Chadron to Crawford is still in place and active. That section is being operated by the Nebraska Northwestern Railroad.
It absolutely is. The Cowboy Line hasn’t been completely wiped off the map. As long as the interchange continues with BNSF in Crawford, Chadron-Dakota Jct-Crawford should be safe. Part of the UP’s coal line uses the Cowboy Line’s right-of-way as well.
@@CVisionProductions1 And as I remember something, Although the Union Pacific did buy the Chicago and North Western in 1995 and ran some trains on the Colony Line for a year, it had no interest in operating it anymore, so the Dakota, Minnesota and Eastern took over that line instead, right?
That’s exactly right, Andrew. The Union Pacific had no interest in operating the Colony Line. It was isolated from the rest of the system, and wasn’t in the best shape. The number of carloads generated didn’t justify UP staying.
LONG LIVE THE CNW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you, Trey! The CNW will live on in these videos.
Yes
I've only watched a few minutes so far; this is going to be a great documentation of CNW's final days
Thank you, AMP Productions! We appreciate you tuning in.
Thank you soooooo much for posting a CNW my number one hundred percent definite favorite railroad
You’re welcome. Glad to hear that you are enjoying our videos.
CNW Was certainly unique with the Motor bells and sharp scheme.
Agreed! CNW’s last paint scheme was excellent. That seemed to be the case for many railroads in the 90s. As in, they come up with a nice, fresh paint scheme, then immediately get bought out by another railroad…
I really enjoyed watching the footage of the line from Rapid City into Chadron! The variety of C&NW freight cars, with the Continental and ex-Rock Island boxcars in woodchip service, was amazing! And I would like to see video coverage of the Wheeling and Lake Erie line, with their diesel fleet painted in the D&RGW "Action Road" scheme.
Thank you, MJ! We enjoyed seeing the variety of old freight cars as well. As for your requests, we’ll see what we can do. Stay tuned!
Love the video! Long live CNW! My hometown and favorite railroad!
Thank you, Mark! The CNW was a great railroad. Everyone at C. Vision loves them too. We appreciate you watching the video.
Finally you posted remembering the cowboy
i love these train videos
Thank you so much, Kevin! There are plenty more on the way.
Another great video, well done!
Thank you for the kind words. We’re glad that you enjoyed the video.
Excellent video!..I miss the Chicago and Northwestern...
Thank you very much! We miss the CNW too… Has it really been 28 years?
@@CVisionProductions1 yes....hard to believe!
I remember driving to Chicago in 1988 and I took a shortcut through Belle Fouche and followed the line mentioned here. I passed through a valley where yellow CNW potash hoppers had derailed and were scattered all over the place. Was CNW in a hurry to clean it up? It sure didn't look like it. The rail was put back in, but the cars just sat there on their sides. I think I counted some 18 to 20 hoppers off the rails and on their sides before I reached Rapid City.
Wow! We remember seeing derailments like that in DM&E days as well. Thank you for sharing that story.
I’ve said it before but the loss of this line is so sad. I’ve hunted between Chadron and Crawford for years near the old line. I’ve seen DM&E and RCPE use it, as well as the GW orange plague. Sure seems like the whole route from Crawford to Norfolk would be a great bypass route. Again, so sad. And, by the way, the UP sucks and so do mergers.
The Cowboy Line indeed would have been a worthy route to save. The soft ground on the PRC Sub is that line’s curse. Minus the Milwaukee Road’s Rapid City main, the Cowboy Line was the only viable alternative. Using a reference from pop culture, “and… it’s gone.” Thank you for the comment.
I miss CNW, it was what I grew up with in Sheboygan
We do too. The CNW is sorely missed today. Thank you for the comment.
I just saw the last CNW unit in service today I wish I could've seen it in its heyday
The CNW certainly was loved by many. We’re glad that you got to see that locomotive. Was it one of the patched AC4400CW units? Thank you for watching!
@@CVisionProductions1 Yes, UP 6706 in Arlington on MPBFW
Months ago my accountant told me he used to work on the C&NW when he was young...i think as a railroader at that
Very cool! That would have been an interesting job. Thank you for sharing.
yay another train video awsome!
Thank you for watching, Paul!
hi cvisions i wish you could make a youtube video of the old buffalo southern frieght trains with the old cabooses.
If only we had footage of that! Thank you for the idea.
Cnw railroad was awesome union pacific made sure they won't be missed forever when got 1995 sd70ace and 2 units sd50 and sd40-2
Thank you, Taylor! Chicago & North Western certainly was a neat railroad. We’re grateful that there are still a few locomotives left in CNW paint. Much better than none!
@@CVisionProductions1 your welcome indeed
awesome train video's but i would like to see some cp rail caboose trains and cnr caboose trains i love caboose trains!
Thank you, Kevin!
Hey Chris did you know on the colony line of the CNW there used to be a few branch lines off of the colony line and they went to the towns of deadwood empire/Newell hot springs and jolly dump
Yes, those lines are shown on old CNW maps.
The stretch between valentine and Chadron are now a hiking/biking trail. They did keep much of the old railroad signs up.
It is nice that the line was at least preserved as a trail. Going over the Niobrara River bridge is quite the sight!
@@CVisionProductions1 I would like to know why Genesee & Wyoming Inc. didn’t purchase it and run it? It connects to a line they now control just west of Chadron.
By the time they could have purchased it, most of the line was already gone, unfortunately. The Cowboy Line would have been a good fit for G&W if the route had been viable.
@@CVisionProductions1 not sure if you knew this, but most of the CNW maintenance shop is intact in Chadron. Pretty sure the round table is still there and in use as well. Most of the rail yard is intact and used for storing coal cars. I know they have a high hood sitting in there and possibly an EMD FT sitting there. Thought about going over there to snoop around but haven’t found the time yet.
Very cool! Chadron is an awesome place. Thanks for the update on it.
That was a long time ago
Yes, it was. Right around the 30 year mark on this one. It doesn’t feel like that long ago! Thank you for watching.
C Vision doing God's work. Also, can you come to Cali?
Thank you!!! We might be back at some point. Either way, we have footage from California that hasn’t been used yet. Stay tuned!
Nice video. so any update for the 2023 RCPE Full Video?
Still in the works. Thank you for asking.
@@CVisionProductions1 Great are u guys making scenes in downtown?
None planned as of now. Downtown Rapid City has been extensively covered in many other videos.
@@CVisionProductions1 Oh ok
@@CVisionProductions1 do u know what horn RCPE 3470 has
This is another fallen flag corridor that I traverse on a regular basis. Seems to me, if some of the mega rail carriers would have preserved some of these lines as "congestion relief alternatives". (See also the Milwaukee Road).
You’re right, Arthur. In many cases, railroads today have limited options for detours and rerouting of traffic. But, that’s by design. Removing track seems to be a hobby for the larger railroads. Thank you for your observation.
@@CVisionProductions1removing track means less $$$$ spent on maintaining something lol
When I look at it, this video should've been the actual Volume 2 to be released all those years back. Not only folks had the opportunity to witness pure sets of C&NW power before the U.P. takeover in 1995, we also were treated to the sight of EXTRA DELETED scenes from 1989 & 1990 featuring the daily freights that once operated on these routes. Not to mention more additional scenes of GECX SUPER-7 3004 was featured even though it didn't get the chance to pull more cars than it was given at the time being filmed. Out of curiosity, did you folks by chance manage to film GECX 3004 when it was sent to attend COAL train service in the Summer of 1994?
Thank you for another nice comment, Colin. GECX 3010 was seen in Wyoming Coal Trains. 3004 wasn’t alone out there. If you’re interested, 3004 and 3010 were (heavily) rebuilt from Milwaukee Road U30C locomotives. They both ended up in Brazil.
@@CVisionProductions1 Of interest, Brazil is also where a few of the LRCX G.E.'S ended up as well. The GECX leasers were actually common visitors to the C&NW ever since 1993 along with Santa Fe C30-7'S. Most of these spent most of their times working on lease to Southern Pacific during 1992 - 1996.
The Southern Pacific was very power short during that time, as you know. That translated into a very power short Union Pacific post-SP takeover. Catastrophic service disruptions followed. It was not surprising that SP was leasing anything they could get their hands on in the mid-1990s.
@@CVisionProductions1 I agree. Depending on which portion of the SP you were on, you just might spot any FORIEGN visitor from any CLASS 1 or REGIONAL working on SP. The best places to catch rainbow lash-ups were either the SUNSET ROUTE or the CENTRAL CORRIDOR ROUTE with Wisconsin Central & Montana Rail Link being the most unusual visitors during 1992 & 1993.
@@colinmulder6806Wisconsin central in SP territory wow lol
50 shades of Gray? No, countless shades of Yellow!
Yes! The CNW liked to mix it up in the paint booth. You’d often see yellow and green colors that were slightly different from unit to unit, even when they were supposedly wearing the same paint scheme. Add in fading over time, plus the various versions of CNW’s color schemes, and you had some real inconsistency. It’s certainly interesting to examine. Thank you for the comment.
So, part of the Cowboy Line between Norfolk and Chadron is now gone.
That is correct. The Nebkota made an attempt to keep the Merriman to Chadron portion of the line alive, but couldn’t make a go of it. Chadron to Crawford is still in place and active. That section is being operated by the Nebraska Northwestern Railroad.
@@CVisionProductions1 That's what I thought. That's good news on the portion of the line between Chadron to Crawford.
It absolutely is. The Cowboy Line hasn’t been completely wiped off the map. As long as the interchange continues with BNSF in Crawford, Chadron-Dakota Jct-Crawford should be safe. Part of the UP’s coal line uses the Cowboy Line’s right-of-way as well.
@@CVisionProductions1 And as I remember something, Although the Union Pacific did buy the Chicago and North Western in 1995 and ran some trains on the Colony Line for a year, it had no interest in operating it anymore, so the Dakota, Minnesota and Eastern took over that line instead, right?
That’s exactly right, Andrew. The Union Pacific had no interest in operating the Colony Line. It was isolated from the rest of the system, and wasn’t in the best shape. The number of carloads generated didn’t justify UP staying.